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.mw-parser-output .ombox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}</style><table class="plainlinks ombox ombox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/40px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/80px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><div style="padding-top: 6px; padding-bottom: 5px;"><b>This is an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Project_namespace#How-to_and_information_pages" title="Wikipedia:Project namespace">explanatory essay</a> about the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_forks" title="Wikipedia:Content forks">Wikipedia:Content forks</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines</a></b>. <br><div style="font-size:90%;"> This page provides additional information about concepts in the page(s) it supplements. This page is not one of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies or guidelines</a> as it has not been <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus#Levels_of_consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">thoroughly vetted by the community</a>.</div></div></td><td class="mbox-imageright"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1252059228">.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxplain{float:right;margin:0 0 0 1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-base,#fff);padding:0.3em 0.6em 0.2em 0.6em;text-align:center;font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxleft{float:left;margin:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutlist{display:inline-block;border-bottom:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);margin-bottom:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutboxplain ul{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .module-shortcutanchordiv{position:relative;top:-3em}.mw-parser-output li .module-shortcutanchordiv{float:right}.mw-parser-output .mbox-imageright .module-shortcutboxplain{padding:0.4em 1em 0.4em 1em;line-height:1.3;margin:0}</style><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:CFORK/I"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a></div><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1126788409">.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul{line-height:inherit;list-style:none;margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol li,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul li{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:CFORK/I&amp;redirect=no">WP:CFORK/I</a></span></li></ul></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div class="shortdescription nomobile noexcerpt noprint searchaux" style="display:none">Explanatory essay about the Wikipedia:Content forks and Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238436933"><table class="plainlinks ombox ombox-notice nutshell" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Walnut.png/30px-Walnut.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Walnut.png/45px-Walnut.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Walnut.png/60px-Walnut.png 2x" data-file-width="192" data-file-height="192"></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><b>This page in a nutshell:</b> The reasoning at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_forks" title="Wikipedia:Content forks">Wikipedia:Content forks</a> sometimes also applies to internal Wikipedia material.</td></tr></tbody></table> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none"><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Discussion_forks"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Discussion forks</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-2"><a href="#Exceptions"><span class="tocnumber">1.1</span> <span class="toctext">Exceptions</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-3"><a href="#Content_issue_versus_behavioral_issue"><span class="tocnumber">1.1.1</span> <span class="toctext">Content issue versus behavioral issue</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-4"><a href="#Escalation_to_a_broader_venue"><span class="tocnumber">1.1.2</span> <span class="toctext">Escalation to a broader venue</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-5"><a href="#Patently_wrong_venue"><span class="tocnumber">1.2</span> <span class="toctext">Patently wrong venue</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-6"><a href="#User_talk"><span class="tocnumber">1.2.1</span> <span class="toctext">User talk</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-7"><a href="#Clarity_about_venue"><span class="tocnumber">1.3</span> <span class="toctext">Clarity about venue</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Policy_forks"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Policy forks</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Essay_forks"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Essay forks</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Process_forks"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Process forks</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#Template_forks"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Template forks</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#See_also"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">See also</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(1)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Discussion_forks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_forks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_forks"></span>Discussion forks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_forks"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Content_forks/Internal&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: Discussion forks" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Discussion_forks","replies":["h-Exceptions-Discussion_forks","h-Patently_wrong_venue-Discussion_forks","h-Clarity_about_venue-Discussion_forks"]}}--></div><section class="mf-section-1 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-1"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:DISCUSSFORK"></span><span id="WP:TALKFORK"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcuts</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:DISCUSSFORK&amp;redirect=no">WP:DISCUSSFORK</a></span></li><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:TALKFORK&amp;redirect=no">WP:TALKFORK</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <p>Discussions <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines#multi" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">should not</a> be forked to multiple talk pages, noticeboards, or other venues, but centralized in a single place. Opening duplicate discussions wastes editorial time, scatters editorial input, and can even lead to conflicting outcomes. Intentionally forking discussions may be interpreted as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FORUMSHOP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FORUMSHOP">forum-shopping</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CANVASS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CANVASS">canvassing</a>. </p><p>It is sometimes useful to relocate a discussion to a more appropriate page; this is usually effectively done by posting a pointer to the new discussion from the old one, though if discussion continues in the original location, it may be appropriate to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Closing_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Closing discussions">close</a> it, for example with: </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r996643573">.mw-parser-output .block-indent{padding-left:3em;padding-right:0;overflow:hidden}</style><div class="block-indent"><code>==Discussion heading here== <p><span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Discussion_top" title="Template:Discussion top">Discussion top</a>|result= <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Moved_discussion_to" title="Template:Moved discussion to">Moved discussion to</a>|[[Other page name#Thread name]] }}</span> }}</span><br> [Forked discussion here]<br> </p> <span class="nowrap">{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Discussion_bottom" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Discussion bottom">Discussion bottom</a>}}</span></code></div> <p>When <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate_notification" title="Wikipedia:Canvassing">neutrally advertising</a> a discussion to other talk pages, you can help prevent discussion forking at the locations of these notices by prefacing them with <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:FYI" title="Template:FYI">FYI</a>|pointer=y}}</code>, immediately after the section heading for the notice. It is also helpful to spell out the location of the discussion (e.g., <span class="example monospaced example-mono" style="font-family: monospace, monospace; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">Please see [[Pagename#Thread]].</span>) rather than to effectively hide it with a piped link (e.g., <span class="example deprecated-content example-bad monospaced example-mono" style="font-family: monospace, monospace; color: var(--color-content-removed, #8B0000);">Please see [[Pagename#Thread|this]].</span>). </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Exceptions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Exceptions-Discussion_forks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Exceptions-Discussion_forks"></span>Exceptions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Exceptions-Discussion_forks"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Content_forks/Internal&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Exceptions" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <p>In most cases, an open discussion is preferably kept at the place where it first began, with split-off discussions closed and retargetted to the oldest open discussion. However, in some of the exceptional cases described below it is also possible, depending on circumstances, that both old and new discussion are kept open concurrently, or that the older discussion is closed rather than the newer one. Examples: </p> <ul><li>When a discussion moves from an article talk page to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard">WP:Dispute resolution noticeboard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN">WP:DRN</a>), the article talk topic is hardly ever formally closed;</li> <li>When a discussion moves from that noticeboard to another noticeboard, it is always the older DRN discussion that is closed in favour of the newer one.</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Content_issue_versus_behavioral_issue" data-mw-thread-id="h-Content_issue_versus_behavioral_issue-Exceptions"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Content_issue_versus_behavioral_issue-Exceptions"></span>Content issue versus behavioral issue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Content_issue_versus_behavioral_issue-Exceptions"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Content_forks/Internal&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Content issue versus behavioral issue" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <p><span class="anchor" id="Content_issue_versus_behavioural_issue"></span> Some pages are not suitable for discussing behavioral issues (e.g. article talk pages, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DRN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DRN">WP:DRN</a>); Other pages are not suitable for discussing the content of a particular mainspace article (e.g. user talk pages, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a>). If an issue inappropriate for the present venue turns up in a discussion that by its nature is otherwise in an appropriate place, the new issue can be split off to an appropriate venue. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Escalation_to_a_broader_venue" data-mw-thread-id="h-Escalation_to_a_broader_venue-Exceptions"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Escalation_to_a_broader_venue-Exceptions"></span>Escalation to a broader venue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Escalation_to_a_broader_venue-Exceptions"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Content_forks/Internal&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Escalation to a broader venue" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <p>If a local <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> fails to emerge (other than perhaps meta-agreement that no clear consensus on the substance can be expected to emerge from the discussion in that place), the discussion may be brought to an appropriate, broader venue. For example, whether to include information from a given source can, if the discussion remains unresolved, be escalated to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RSN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RSN">WP:RSN</a>; or, if the content regards a living person, to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPN">WP:BLPN</a>; etc. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Patently_wrong_venue" data-mw-thread-id="h-Patently_wrong_venue-Discussion_forks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Patently_wrong_venue-Discussion_forks"></span>Patently wrong venue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Patently_wrong_venue-Discussion_forks"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Content_forks/Internal&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: Patently wrong venue" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <p>If a new discussion topic is opened in a venue where it doesn't belong (e.g. an issue regarding the biography of a 19th-century person at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPN">WP:BLPN</a>), the topic may be closed or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Refactor" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Refactor">moved</a> to a more appropriate venue. <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1033199720">.mw-parser-output div.crossreference{padding-left:0}</style><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1236090951">.mw-parser-output .hatnote{font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output div.hatnote{padding-left:1.6em;margin-bottom:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .hatnote i{font-style:normal}.mw-parser-output .hatnote+link+.hatnote{margin-top:-0.5em}@media print{body.ns-0 .mw-parser-output .hatnote{display:none!important}}</style><span role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable crossreference selfref">(See also: <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Wrong_venue" title="Template:Wrong venue">Wrong venue</a>}}</code> and <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Moved_discussion_to" title="Template:Moved discussion to">Moved discussion to</a>}}</code>.)</span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="User_talk" data-mw-thread-id="h-User_talk-Patently_wrong_venue"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User_talk-Patently_wrong_venue"></span>User talk<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User_talk-Patently_wrong_venue"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Content_forks/Internal&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: User talk" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <p>While splitting up user-talk discussions is most often undesirable and potentially confusing or unconducive to resolution of issues, users have broad leeway to reply on their own talk page or that of a particular editor to issues or questions that are sometimes inappropriately raised elsewhere, and may <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Ping" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Ping">ping</a> the other editor(s) to that new thread. "Take it to user talk" is a common response to inter-personal conflicts that pop up in article talk pages, for example, where the focus should be on content. Some users may request that a reply to something they have posted at one talk page be taken to their own (or not taken to their own). Some may also prefer to move a discussion mostly about another user or topic from their own talk page or even to a noticeboard; or to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Refactor" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Refactor">refactor</a> the off-topic portion to somewhere else; or to close the original discussion and open a new one at a more appropriate venue. There are no hard-and-fast rules about such matters. In general, if an editor expresses such a preference and it is not a big deal to you, just go along with it. Remember that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:User_pages#Editing_of_other_editors'_user_and_user_talk_pages" title="Wikipedia:User pages">the community norm</a> is to respect, within reason, the wishes of another editor with regard to the management and use of their own talk page. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Clarity_about_venue" data-mw-thread-id="h-Clarity_about_venue-Discussion_forks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Clarity_about_venue-Discussion_forks"></span>Clarity about venue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Clarity_about_venue-Discussion_forks"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Content_forks/Internal&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: Clarity about venue" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <p>A bit of advice for closers of discussions: It is best to not leave participants in a discussion guessing where to go next after a discussion has been closed – regardless of the nature of the discussion (other than <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Hat" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Hat">hat</a>}}</code>'ed trolling and the like). E.g., at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AE">WP:AE</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a>, a closing admin imposing a restriction will usually include where and after how much time an imposed sanction can be appealed. Or, the closer of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM">requested move</a> that didn't quite come to a consensus will often suggest to give the matter a rest for a few months and then to open a new RM with a narrowed rationale and more data, at the same venue. Or, a <i>no consensus</i> close of an RfC, in which two sides both cite a large number of sources but cannot reach agreement on the sources' reliability, might recommend <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RSN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RSN">WP:RSN</a> for some source examination by uninvolved parties. </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(2)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Policy_forks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Policy_forks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Policy_forks"></span>Policy forks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Policy_forks"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Content_forks/Internal&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: Policy forks" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Policy_forks","replies":[]}}--></div><section class="mf-section-2 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-2"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:POLFORK"></span><span id="WP:RULEFORK"></span><span id="WP:GUIDELINEFORK"></span><span id="WP:ADVICEFORK"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcuts</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:POLFORK&amp;redirect=no">WP:POLFORK</a></span></li><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:RULEFORK&amp;redirect=no">WP:RULEFORK</a></span></li><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:GUIDELINEFORK&amp;redirect=no">WP:GUIDELINEFORK</a></span></li><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:ADVICEFORK&amp;redirect=no">WP:ADVICEFORK</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <p>It is <em>never</em> constructive to attempt to create a new page or section of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:POLICY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:POLICY">WP:POLICY</a>-style material that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines#Conflicts_between_advice_pages" title="Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines">conflicts with or contradicts</a> an existing one. This applies to any proposed policy, guideline, supplement, information page, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROJPAGE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROJPAGE">wikiproject advice page</a>, help/how-to page, or any other material meant to provide serious advice for editors or to establish rules or best practices. Even a proposal that is simply redundant will not be accepted, but merged or deleted, as retaining separate pages covering the same issue would inevitably lead to diverging advice and avoidable conflict between editors. The same concerns apply to modifying an existing page of this sort to conflict with another existing one. In particular, forking topic-specific guidance to conflict with site-wide norms is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus#Levels_of_consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">against the Consensus policy</a>. (If you're certain a general rule needs a special exception, propose that an exception be listed at that rule, rather than fork your own ersatz "counter-rule".) </p><p>When <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Summary_style" title="Wikipedia:Summary style">summary style</a> is applied to such material – e.g., with one narrow page summarizing the applicable guidance of another, broader one – the original page or section should be linked to from the summarizing one, and it may be appropriate to use a <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Main" title="Template:Main">Main</a>}}</code> template atop the summarizing section to point to the original prominently. This helps people find the controlling material, and helps editors keep the advice and its language compatible across pages. </p><p>If you disagree with the wording or interpretation of any policy material (broadly defined), the appropriate process is to open a discussion on its talk page and seek consensus to change or clarify it. While an attempt to just <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold" title="Wikipedia:Be bold">boldly</a> change the content without prior discussion is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Editing_policy" title="Wikipedia:Editing policy">not forbidden</a>, there is a high likelihood that it will be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bold,_revert,_discuss" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Bold, revert, discuss">reverted</a>, because changes to these materials <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines#Content_changes" title="Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines">require an elevated level of care and acceptance</a>. </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(3)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Essay_forks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Essay_forks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Essay_forks"></span>Essay forks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Essay_forks"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Content_forks/Internal&amp;action=edit&amp;section=9" title="Edit section: Essay forks" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Essay_forks","replies":[]}}--></div><section class="mf-section-3 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-3"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:ESSAYFORK"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcut</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:ESSAYFORK&amp;redirect=no">WP:ESSAYFORK</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1236090951"><div role="note" class="hatnote navigation-not-searchable">See also: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_writing_redundant_essays" title="Wikipedia:Avoid writing redundant essays">Wikipedia:Avoid writing redundant essays</a></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Essay" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Essay">Wikipedia essays</a> that serve an <a href="/wiki/Op-ed" title="Op-ed">op-ed</a> purpose are often forked intentionally and permissibly, to provide differing perspectives. </p><p>However, a few essays, and other types of pages with the authority level of essays (i.e., below policies and guidelines) are <em>informational</em> not opinional, and are well-accepted by the community, representing a broad consensus. It is not constructive to do something like draft up your own opposition version that directly contradicts a page like <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD,_revert,_discuss_cycle" title="Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle">WP:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arguments_to_avoid_in_deletion_discussions" title="Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions">WP:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions</a>, <a href="/wiki/Help:Images" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Images">Help:Images</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Compromised_accounts" title="Wikipedia:Compromised accounts">WP:Compromised accounts</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Core_content_policies" title="Wikipedia:Core content policies">WP:Core content policies</a>, or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars" title="Wikipedia:Five pillars">WP:Five pillars</a> <span style="font-size:85%;">(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars_of_evil" title="Wikipedia:Five pillars of evil">humor pages</a> aside)</span>. If you disagree with something in a page like this, it is more productive to propose a change to the current version at its talk page. </p><p>Even for opinional essays, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Essays#Creation_and_modification_of_essays" title="Wikipedia:Essays">avoid creating a new essay page when an existing one can be expanded</a> to include your new material (even if it is a counterpoint, in a new section for that). Wikipedia already has more essays than anyone will ever read. This is both a maintenance problem and a limitation on how much influence your material could have. You will find a bigger and more attentive audience if your work can practicably be integrated (with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a>) into an essay that is frequently read than if you create a new page no one knows about or is likely to discover. However, highly personal ruminations are best as stand-alone pages; avoid changing the overall nature and thrust of an existing community or single-author essay. Such materials generally belong in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:User_pages" title="Wikipedia:User pages">"User:"</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Namespaces" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Namespaces">namespace</a>; especially contrarian or idiosyncratic essays in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Project_pages" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Project pages">"Wikipedia:"</a> namespace are often user-spaced or even removed by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion">WP:Miscellany for deletion</a>. </p><p>If you do feel your material should be in a separate page, please ensure that it is categorized appropriately in the subcategories of <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_essays" title="Category:Wikipedia essays">Category:Wikipedia essays</a> (if in the "Wikipedia:" namespace) or <a href="/wiki/Category:User_essays" title="Category:User essays">Category:User essays</a> (if in the "User:" namespace), has cross-references to it in the "See also" sections of other relevant essays (to avoid the <a href="/wiki/Template:Orphaned_essay" title="Template:Orphaned essay">orphaned essay</a> problem), and see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Essays#Finding_essays" title="Wikipedia:Essays">Wikipedia:Essays § Finding essays</a> for some indexes in which to list your essay and a brief description of it. Unless you expect that people will frequently refer to the essay on talk pages, it is not necessary and is even undesirable to create a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">shortcut</a> for it; the available intelligible shortcuts are a finite resource. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_writing_redundant_essays" title="Wikipedia:Avoid writing redundant essays">Redundant essays should be merged</a>. If you run across some, consider <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_mergers" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Proposed mergers">proposing them for merger</a>, or if they are disused and their principal authors are not active, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold" title="Wikipedia:Be bold">boldly</a> just <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Merging" title="Wikipedia:Merging">doing the merge</a> yourself. </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(4)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Process_forks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Process_forks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Process_forks"></span>Process forks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Process_forks"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Content_forks/Internal&amp;action=edit&amp;section=10" title="Edit section: Process forks" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Process_forks","replies":[]}}--></div><section class="mf-section-4 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-4"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:PROCFORK"></span><span id="WP:PROCEDUREFORK"></span><span id="WP:PROJECTFORK"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcuts</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:PROCFORK&amp;redirect=no">WP:PROCFORK</a></span></li><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:PROCEDUREFORK&amp;redirect=no">WP:PROCEDUREFORK</a></span></li><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:PROJECTFORK&amp;redirect=no">WP:PROJECTFORK</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <p>Process-forking (or procedure-forking) is generally a poor idea. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Process_is_important" title="Wikipedia:Process is important">Process is important</a> (both as to benefits and costs), so a new process should not be created (especially not an overlapping one) without a community consensus that there's a need for it. Unnecessary process is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_bureaucracy" title="Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not">undesirable and counter-productive</a>. No one is going to take it seriously if you create a "WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents/Biochemistry" as a topical alternative to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN/I" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN/I">WP:AN/I</a>; it would be deleted quickly. Many <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject">wikiprojects</a> have found that after creating an "/Assessment" or "/Peer review" process subpage that no one ever uses it; try to create sufficient editorial interest in running a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review" title="Wikipedia:Peer review">peer review</a> process first, to ensure that it will be practical. Similarly, it is strongly discouraged to create a new wikiproject or taskforce/workgroup without a consensus at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals">Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals</a> that it will be useful and will have sufficient participation. </p><p><b>Disruptive process-forking</b>: Creating a new process page in opposition to an established one will almost certainly be interpreted as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Disruptive_editing" title="Wikipedia:Disruptive editing">disruptive</a>, and get sent to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion">WP:Miscellany for deletion</a> (MfD). Wikiprojects are a form, or at least locus, of process. A bogus wikiproject set up as a "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Canvassing" title="Wikipedia:Canvassing">canvassing</a> farm" – to oppose a consensus, lobby for changes to policy, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_content" title="Wikipedia:Ownership of content">over-control</a> article content for a specific viewpoint, or any other activity <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Here_to_build_an_encyclopedia#Clearly_not_being_here_to_build_an_encyclopedia" title="Wikipedia:Here to build an encyclopedia">antithetical to Wikipedia goals</a> and smooth operation, will be deleted <a href="/wiki/Prejudice_(legal_term)" title="Prejudice (legal term)">with prejudice</a> at MfD. </p><p>Some process forks can have <em>incidentally disruptive</em> effects – usually a result of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Competence_is_required" title="Wikipedia:Competence is required">insufficient competence</a> with Wikipedia norms, procedures, and maintenance tools, or an improper understanding of how project organization and management work. An example is the creation of new (or modification of existing) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_assessment" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject assessment">content assessment</a> classes, which breaks compatibility with various <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Template messages">templates</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Bot">bots</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization" title="Wikipedia:Categorization">categories</a>. A related example is the forking of general wikiprojects into increasingly narrow sub-topical ones (especially without a successful <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposal" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposal">WP:WikiProject Council/Proposal</a>); this simultaneously drains editorial activity from the viable, broader wikiprojects, and sets up too-narrow "micro-projects" which become moribund within a year or less due to too few participants. Another type of case is the creation of a wanna-be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Noticeboard" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Noticeboard">noticeboard</a> on a topical basis; it is not within a wikiproject's scope or authority to set up a <a href="/wiki/Kangaroo_court" title="Kangaroo court">kangaroo court</a> of a dispute resolution and sanctions venue to enforce its viewpoint on content matters. Yet another example is the creation of a bogus pseudo-process inside a wikiproject to change <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_titles" title="Wikipedia:Article titles">article titles</a> to suit the preferences of the project participants, and bypass established <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">WP:Requested moves</a> process; one project trying this caused a tremendous amount of disruption over several years<sup class="noprint Inline-Template Template-Fact" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed"><span title="This claim needs references to reliable sources. (August 2024)">citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup> until a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a> and an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment" title="Wikipedia:Requests for comment">RfC</a><sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words"><span title="The material near this tag possibly uses too vague attribution or weasel words. (August 2024)">which?</span></a></i>]</sup> reversed them. </p><p>Remember that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus#Levels_of_consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">a "local consensus" among a small group of editors can't override site-wide consensus</a> – including about how Wikipedia operates – absent a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_%22Ignore_all_rules%22_means" title='Wikipedia:What "Ignore all rules" means'>very good reason</a> that the community accepts. </p><p>Some process forking has been organic, with different – even confusingly dissimilar – procedures evolving over time for rather parallel processes. These have polar tendencies to either slowly normalize towards each other, <em>or</em> to become ingrained and ossified. The former is preferable since it reduces the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_instruction_creep" title="Wikipedia:Avoid instruction creep">number and peculiarity</a> of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_bureaucracy" title="Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not">rules and systems</a> that Wikipedians are expected to learn and comply with. </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(5)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Template_forks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template_forks"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template_forks"></span>Template forks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template_forks"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Content_forks/Internal&amp;action=edit&amp;section=11" title="Edit section: Template forks" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Template_forks","replies":[]}}--></div><section class="mf-section-5 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-5"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1252059228"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:TEMPLATEFORK"></span><span id="WP:OUTPUTFORK"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut" title="Wikipedia:Shortcut">Shortcuts</a></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:TEMPLATEFORK&amp;redirect=no">WP:TEMPLATEFORK</a></span></li><li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:OUTPUTFORK&amp;redirect=no">WP:OUTPUTFORK</a></span></li></ul></div></div> <p>Wikipedia has thousands of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Template" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Template">templates</a> (what in most other contexts would be called <i>scripts</i>) that produce reader- and editor-visible, pre-formatted output. Many of these form consistent series that are explicitly intended to produce similar and compatible results. While there is some room for variation (e.g., many <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Infobox" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Infobox">infoboxes</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Navigation_template" title="Wikipedia:Navigation template">navboxes</a> subtly use color associated with the topic, such as a sports team), "output forking" the results of one of a set of templates to clash with the rest of them is not constructive. </p><p>Just directly forking the code of a template is often ill-advised. New templates that substantially duplicate the behavior of old ones with a minor variation are usually <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Merge" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Merge">merged</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect" title="Wikipedia:Redirect">redirected</a> by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Templates for deletion">WP:Templates for deletion</a> (TfD) back into the parent template, either as an undesired variant, or as an output option simply toggled with an additional template parameter. Templates that output something radically different from Wikipedia's normal style or expected needs are usually simply deleted outright. Unnecessary templates have considerable editorial maintenance costs, so TfD is a busy place. See also <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not" title="Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not">WP:What Wikipedia is not</a>, especially the sections on it not being a Web host, a social-networking site, a publisher of original ideas, a forum, or a soapbox for promotion. A large number of inappropriate template and output forks are attempts to impose a personal "design vision" on something, to add features that don't belong in an encyclopedia, or to visually emphasize something in an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UNDUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UNDUE">undue</a> way. (If such a template has legitimate uses in the "User:" or "Wikipedia:" namespaces, it might be retained but re-coded to not produce such output in mainspace articles.) </p><p>If <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> has been achieved for a template to format something a particular way (e.g for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility">accessibility</a> reasons), or to not include some information deemed inappropriate, it is generally not okay to fork your own copy that does it the way you wish consensus had settled on. </p><p>Finally, when two templates are very similar (or an old-style template and a newer <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Lua" title="Wikipedia:Lua">Lua module</a> are, and the template does not already rely on the module), and they are kept un-merged for a reason, it is not helpful to fork their options – especially what parameters are supported and what their names are – without a very good reason to do so. It makes using our templates much more difficult for everyone when related ones are not in-sync. </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(6)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="See_also" data-mw-thread-id="h-See_also"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-See_also"></span>See also<span data-mw-comment-end="h-See_also"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Content_forks/Internal&amp;action=edit&amp;section=12" title="Edit section: See also" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-See_also","replies":[]}}--></div><section class="mf-section-6 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-6"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_writing_redundant_essays" title="Wikipedia:Avoid writing redundant essays">Wikipedia:Avoid writing redundant essays</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Infobox_consolidation" title="Wikipedia:Infobox consolidation">Wikipedia:Infobox consolidation</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Should_I_fork%3F" title="Wikipedia:Should I fork?">Wikipedia:Should I fork?</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_instruction_creep" title="Wikipedia:Avoid instruction creep">Wikipedia:Avoid instruction creep</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redundancy_is_good" title="Wikipedia:Redundancy is good">Wikipedia:Redundancy is good</a> (opposing perspective)</li></ul> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐59856bd7d8‐bf79h Cached time: 20241119181036 Cache expiry: 2592000 Reduced expiry: false Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.016 seconds CPU time usage: 0.231 seconds Real time usage: 0.348 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 1247/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 25384/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 3519/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 14/100 Expensive parser function count: 13/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 11505/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.108/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 3372383/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 280.830 1 -total 43.37% 121.800 1 Template:Supplement 25.87% 72.647 1 Template:Ombox 16.18% 45.439 1 Template:Short_description 13.54% 38.011 1 Template:Cn 12.83% 36.028 2 Template:Fix 12.27% 34.468 1 Template:Ombox/shortcut 11.15% 31.302 5 Template:Shortcut 8.80% 24.700 3 Template:Category_handler 8.09% 22.713 1 Template:Crossref --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:55693821-0!canonical and timestamp 20241119181036 and revision id 1240966672. 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