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Articles: <a href="/wiki/Choo_Chiat_Goh" title="Choo Chiat Goh">Choo Chiat Goh</a>, <a href="/wiki/Vladimir_Bourmeister" title="Vladimir Bourmeister">Vladimir Bourmeister</a>, <a href="/wiki/Columbia_City_Ballet" title="Columbia City Ballet">Columbia City Ballet</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Michael_Cook_(ballet)&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Michael Cook (ballet) (page does not exist)">Michael Cook (ballet)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Peter_Schaufuss" title="Peter Schaufuss">Peter Schaufuss</a>, <a href="/wiki/Cyril_Atanassoff" title="Cyril Atanassoff">Cyril Atanassoff</a>, <a href="/wiki/Post-structuralist_ballet" title="Post-structuralist ballet">Post-structuralist ballet</a></li><li><b><i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Cleanup" title="Wikipedia:Cleanup">Cleanup</a></i> :</b> <a href="/wiki/Ballet_Fantastique" title="Ballet Fantastique">Ballet Fantastique</a>, <a href="/wiki/NYCB" class="mw-disambig" title="NYCB">NYCB</a>/cast lists, re-write the whole <a 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Sections older than <b>100 days</b> may be automatically archived by <span class="nowraplinks"><a href="/wiki/User:Lowercase_sigmabot_III" title="User:Lowercase sigmabot III">Lowercase sigmabot III</a></span> when more than 3 sections are present.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Palisades1-20231213230700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Roads-20231213230700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Palisades1-20231213230700-Roads&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Roads&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Roads&quot;}--><h2 id="Roads" data-mw-thread-id="h-Roads-20231213230700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Roads-20231213230700"></span>Roads<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Roads-20231213230700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Edward_Elgar&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: Roads"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Palisades1-20231213230700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Roads-20231213230700","replies":["c-Palisades1-20231213230700-Roads"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Tim_riley-20241112120800-Nikkimaria-20241112014700","timestamp":"20241112120800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Palisades1-20231213230700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Roads-20231213230700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Palisades1-20231213230700-Roads&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Roads&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Roads&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Palisades1-20231213230700-Roads"></span>Tim riley You recently reverted a referenced addition to Edward Elgar (a street named after him). The summary stated: "rem (misspelled) trivia". Im not sure what rem means, I assume misspelled refers to "Honor vs Honour". As for trivia, the entry followed the line: "There are around 65 roads in the UK named after Elgar...". How is the name of another road/street in a different country trivia and not a proper inclusion to Honours, awards and commemorations? If this revert was done in error please correct it. Thanks,<a href="/wiki/User:Palisades1" title="User:Palisades1">Palisades1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Palisades1" title="User talk:Palisades1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_Elgar#c-Palisades1-20231213230700-Roads" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:07, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Palisades1-20231213230700-Roads"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231213230700","author":"Palisades1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Palisades1-20231213230700-Roads","replies":["c-Nikkimaria-20231214050700-Palisades1-20231213230700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Palisades1-20231213230700-Roads"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nikkimaria-20231214050700-Palisades1-20231213230700"></span>Why do you believe this specific street merits being called out? <a href="/wiki/User:Nikkimaria" title="User:Nikkimaria">Nikkimaria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nikkimaria" title="User talk:Nikkimaria">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_Elgar#c-Nikkimaria-20231214050700-Palisades1-20231213230700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:07, 14 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nikkimaria-20231214050700-Palisades1-20231213230700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231214050700","author":"Nikkimaria","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nikkimaria-20231214050700-Palisades1-20231213230700","replies":["c-Palisades1-20241111215200-Nikkimaria-20231214050700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nikkimaria-20231214050700-Palisades1-20231213230700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Palisades1-20241111215200-Nikkimaria-20231214050700"></span>See the above argument against the removal of the street name in the US and the explanation for the revert: "trivia". Isn't it all trivia? Like the sentence following the one about roads in the UK: "Elgar had three locomotives named in his honour". <a href="/wiki/User:Palisades1" title="User:Palisades1">Palisades1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Palisades1" title="User talk:Palisades1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_Elgar#c-Palisades1-20241111215200-Nikkimaria-20231214050700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Palisades1-20241111215200-Nikkimaria-20231214050700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111215200","author":"Palisades1","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Palisades1-20241111215200-Nikkimaria-20231214050700","replies":["c-Nikkimaria-20241112014700-Palisades1-20241111215200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Palisades1-20241111215200-Nikkimaria-20231214050700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nikkimaria-20241112014700-Palisades1-20241111215200"></span>I'm not following what you're arguing here - are you against the removal of the US street names, or are you proposing removing <i>more</i> content? <a href="/wiki/User:Nikkimaria" title="User:Nikkimaria">Nikkimaria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nikkimaria" title="User talk:Nikkimaria">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_Elgar#c-Nikkimaria-20241112014700-Palisades1-20241111215200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:47, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nikkimaria-20241112014700-Palisades1-20241111215200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241112014700","author":"Nikkimaria","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nikkimaria-20241112014700-Palisades1-20241111215200","replies":["c-Tim_riley-20241112120800-Nikkimaria-20241112014700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nikkimaria-20241112014700-Palisades1-20241111215200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tim_riley-20241112120800-Nikkimaria-20241112014700"></span>For my own part, I take Palisade1's point about the other roads, and the railway engines. If I had my way I'd get rid of the lot as trivial, but other editors have taken a different view, and I think the roads and engines have to stay, though I hope there won't be any more. <b><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tim_riley" title="User:Tim riley"><span style="color:# 660066">Tim riley</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tim_riley" title="User talk:Tim riley"><span style="color:#848484"> talk</span></a></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_Elgar#c-Tim_riley-20241112120800-Nikkimaria-20241112014700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:08, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tim_riley-20241112120800-Nikkimaria-20241112014700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241112120800","author":"Tim riley","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Tim_riley-20241112120800-Nikkimaria-20241112014700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tim_riley-20241112120800-Nikkimaria-20241112014700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-202.142.67.175-20231231074600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Infobox-20231231074600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-202.142.67.175-20231231074600-Infobox&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Infobox&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Infobox&quot;}--><h2 id="Infobox" data-mw-thread-id="h-Infobox-20231231074600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Infobox-20231231074600"></span>Infobox<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Infobox-20231231074600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Edward_Elgar&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Infobox"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-202.142.67.175-20231231074600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Infobox-20231231074600","replies":["c-202.142.67.175-20231231074600-Infobox"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Tim_riley-20231231184300-Jmc-20231231090000","timestamp":"20231231184300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-202.142.67.175-20231231074600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Infobox-20231231074600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-202.142.67.175-20231231074600-Infobox&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Infobox&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Infobox&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-202.142.67.175-20231231074600-Infobox"></span>I am planning on adding an infobox to this article. When I wanted to edit it, there was a request to notify the talk page before attempting such a change. So can I go ahead with my edit? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/202.142.67.175" title="Special:Contributions/202.142.67.175">202.142.67.175</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:202.142.67.175" title="User talk:202.142.67.175">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_Elgar#c-202.142.67.175-20231231074600-Infobox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:46, 31 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-202.142.67.175-20231231074600-Infobox"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231231074600","author":"202.142.67.175","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-202.142.67.175-20231231074600-Infobox","replies":["c-Jmc-20231231090000-202.142.67.175-20231231074600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-202.142.67.175-20231231074600-Infobox"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jmc-20231231090000-202.142.67.175-20231231074600"></span>In a word, no. You'll find a lengthy discussion about this matter in the archive. <a href="/wiki/User:Jmc" title="User:Jmc">Jmc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jmc" title="User talk:Jmc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_Elgar#c-Jmc-20231231090000-202.142.67.175-20231231074600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:00, 31 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jmc-20231231090000-202.142.67.175-20231231074600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231231090000","author":"Jmc","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmc-20231231090000-202.142.67.175-20231231074600","replies":["c-Tim_riley-20231231184300-Jmc-20231231090000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jmc-20231231090000-202.142.67.175-20231231074600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tim_riley-20231231184300-Jmc-20231231090000"></span>Concurring with Jmc. <b><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tim_riley" title="User:Tim riley"><span style="color:# 660066">Tim riley</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tim_riley" title="User talk:Tim riley"><span style="color:#848484"> talk</span></a></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_Elgar#c-Tim_riley-20231231184300-Jmc-20231231090000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:43, 31 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tim_riley-20231231184300-Jmc-20231231090000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231231184300","author":"Tim riley","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tim_riley-20231231184300-Jmc-20231231090000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tim_riley-20231231184300-Jmc-20231231090000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-202.142.67.175-20231231220800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes-20231231220800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-202.142.67.175-20231231220800-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Bias Regarding Infoboxes&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Bias Regarding Infoboxes&quot;}--><h2 id="Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes-20231231220800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes-20231231220800"></span>Bias Regarding Infoboxes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes-20231231220800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Edward_Elgar&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Bias Regarding Infoboxes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-202.142.67.175-20231231220800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes-20231231220800","replies":["c-202.142.67.175-20231231220800-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Tim_riley-20241018100500-Wcamp9-20241018023600","timestamp":"20241018100500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-202.142.67.175-20231231220800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes-20231231220800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-202.142.67.175-20231231220800-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Bias Regarding Infoboxes&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Bias Regarding Infoboxes&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-202.142.67.175-20231231220800-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes"></span>There is a clear bias I've noticed of late regarding infoboxes for articles about composers. While creating infoboxes for articles on notable British composers like Arthur Sullivan, Edward Elgar, etc. and German composers like Richard Wagner is discouraged, infoboxes exist on the articles of notable American composers like Aaron Copeland and Igor Stravinsky. Why is this so? This seems like anti-European and pro-American bias. </p><p>Edit:I felt like this needed a separate topic and does not fit in any of the earlier topics, so I made one <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/202.142.67.175" title="Special:Contributions/202.142.67.175">202.142.67.175</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:202.142.67.175" title="User talk:202.142.67.175">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_Elgar#c-202.142.67.175-20231231220800-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:08, 31 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-202.142.67.175-20231231220800-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231231220800","author":"202.142.67.175","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-202.142.67.175-20231231220800-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes","replies":["c-Jmc-20240101014000-202.142.67.175-20231231220800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-202.142.67.175-20231231220800-Bias_Regarding_Infoboxes"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jmc-20240101014000-202.142.67.175-20231231220800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/202.142.67.175" title="Special:Contributions/202.142.67.175">202.142.67.175</a> Your allegation of bias in infoboxes for articles about composers is more appropriately raised at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Classical_music" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical music">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical music</a> (where you'll find lengthy (and heated!) discussion of the topic). <a href="/wiki/User:Jmc" title="User:Jmc">Jmc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jmc" title="User talk:Jmc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_Elgar#c-Jmc-20240101014000-202.142.67.175-20231231220800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:40, 1 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jmc-20240101014000-202.142.67.175-20231231220800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240101014000","author":"Jmc","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jmc-20240101014000-202.142.67.175-20231231220800","replies":["c-Wcamp9-20241018023600-Jmc-20240101014000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jmc-20240101014000-202.142.67.175-20231231220800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wcamp9-20241018023600-Jmc-20240101014000"></span>I believe strongly that an infoboxo should be added. There is no reason that it shouldn't especially when many people look at it first. It can simply show where and when they were born, when they died, and a list of works. Thats it. Nothing trivial most the time, that literally goes against what an infobox is made for <a href="/wiki/User:Wcamp9" title="User:Wcamp9">Wcamp9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wcamp9" title="User talk:Wcamp9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_Elgar#c-Wcamp9-20241018023600-Jmc-20240101014000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:36, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wcamp9-20241018023600-Jmc-20240101014000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018023600","author":"Wcamp9","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Wcamp9-20241018023600-Jmc-20240101014000","replies":["c-Tim_riley-20241018100500-Wcamp9-20241018023600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wcamp9-20241018023600-Jmc-20240101014000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tim_riley-20241018100500-Wcamp9-20241018023600"></span>Jmc is right. A proposal to change Wikipedia's policy on i-boxes does not belong here. You would do better to raise it in the appropriate forum. Your request for a list of works shows why i-boxes are inappropriate for composers: <i>which</i> works, chosen by whom on what encylopaedic principles? <b><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tim_riley" title="User:Tim riley"><span style="color:# 660066">Tim riley</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tim_riley" title="User talk:Tim riley"><span style="color:#848484"> talk</span></a></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Edward_Elgar#c-Tim_riley-20241018100500-Wcamp9-20241018023600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:05, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tim_riley-20241018100500-Wcamp9-20241018023600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018100500","author":"Tim riley","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tim_riley-20241018100500-Wcamp9-20241018023600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tim_riley-20241018100500-Wcamp9-20241018023600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐5dc468848‐n7gsf Cached time: 20241123170727 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.022 seconds CPU time usage: 0.361 seconds Real time usage: 0.485 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 2299/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 60215/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 3905/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 16/100 Expensive parser function count: 21/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 32865/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.220/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 5339993/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 384.798 1 -total 66.73% 256.762 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 27.55% 105.998 1 Template:WikiProject_Biography 17.16% 66.014 1 Template:Archivebox 11.92% 45.849 1 Template:ArticleHistory 8.97% 34.525 1 Template:WikiProject_Dance 8.57% 32.962 11 Template:Th/abp 6.23% 23.956 1 Template:WikiProject_Worcestershire 4.12% 15.848 1 User:MiszaBot/config 3.68% 14.162 9 Template:Tmpv --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:188809-0!canonical and timestamp 20241123170727 and revision id 1256956011. 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