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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Conservatism" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Conservatism">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Conservatism</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Conservatism</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Conservatism</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Conservatism articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr><tr><td class="assess import-low"><a href="/wiki/Category:Low-importance_Conservatism_articles" title="Category:Low-importance Conservatism articles">Low</a></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article has been rated as <b>Low-importance</b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Conservatism/Assessment#Importance_scale" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Conservatism/Assessment">project's importance scale</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="How_about_a_photo?" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_about_a_photo?-2008-09-05T20:00:00.000Z"><span id="How_about_a_photo.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_about_a_photo?-2008-09-05T20:00:00.000Z"></span>How about a photo?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_about_a_photo?-2008-09-05T20:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Alex_P._Keaton&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: How about a photo?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Schwartz-2008-09-05T20:00:00.000Z-How_about_a_photo?"></span>I would think that, whomever owns the rights to still shots from this erstwhile TV show, would probably agree gladly to allow a photo here. (wouldn't it be like getting "free publicity" here on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia">Wikipedia</a> for both the character and the erstwhile TV show?) </p><p>I contrast that with the limited appeal [IMHO] of only a latter-day (more recent) photo of the actor. </p><p>I do not even know whether "this erstwhile TV show" is now commercially available via DVD (or not). But in any event, who would want to hoard the photo? All it would take is one - it would help a lot, IMO. </p><p><b>Examples:</b> There is a photo (also showing others on the same TV show) at <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.imdb.com/media/rm2052757504/ch0029491">http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2052757504/ch0029491</a> and the copyright notice there says, << "(c) 1985 Gene Trindl - Image courtesy MPTV.net" >> ((and the "MPTV.net" part is a hyper-link to the URL <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://mptv.net/">http://mptv.net/</a>)). I don't know exactly how we (that is, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia">Wikipedia</a>) could perhaps go about getting similar permission - but in my opinion it would be a good idea. (I have never done that before.) </p><p>Just my 0.02, --<a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Schwartz" title="User:Mike Schwartz">Mike Schwartz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Schwartz" title="User talk:Mike Schwartz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alex_P._Keaton#c-Mike_Schwartz-2008-09-05T20:00:00.000Z-How_about_a_photo?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Schwartz-2008-09-05T20:00:00.000Z-How_about_a_photo?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Schwartz-2008-09-05T20:00:00.000Z-How_about_a_photo?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_move" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move-2013-12-28T05:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move-2013-12-28T05:52:00.000Z"></span>Requested move<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move-2013-12-28T05:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Alex_P._Keaton&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Requested move"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amakuru-2014-01-07T16:59:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span>The following discussion is an archived discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review" title="Wikipedia:Move review">move review</a>. No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>Not moved</b>. Unanimous opposition apart from nominator, with reasonable <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMONNAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMONNAME">WP:COMMONNAME</a> argument. <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Non-admin_closure" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions">non-admin closure</a>)</small> — <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alex_P._Keaton#c-Amakuru-2014-01-07T16:59:00.000Z-Requested_move" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:59, 7 January 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amakuru-2014-01-07T16:59:00.000Z-Requested_move"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amakuru-2014-01-07T16:59:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><a href="/wiki/Alex_P._Keaton" title="Alex P. Keaton"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span>Alex P. Keaton</a> → <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alex_Keaton&redirect=no">Alex Keaton</a></span> – Sources use or omit the middle initial "P." There are no other notable people of the same name yet, and, if there are, this character is the primary, the only topic of the same name. <small>--<b>Relisted.</b> — <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a>) 23:05, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</small> <a href="/wiki/User:George_Ho" title="User:George Ho">George Ho</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:George_Ho" title="User talk:George Ho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alex_P._Keaton#c-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z-Requested_move" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:13, 20 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z-Requested_move"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span> </p> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-65.94.76.3-2013-12-28T05:52:00.000Z-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> the character is called "Alex P. Keaton", emphasis with the P. -- <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.94.76.3" title="Special:Contributions/65.94.76.3">65.94.76.3</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:65.94.76.3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:65.94.76.3 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alex_P._Keaton#c-65.94.76.3-2013-12-28T05:52:00.000Z-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:52, 28 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-65.94.76.3-2013-12-28T05:52:00.000Z-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-65.94.76.3-2013-12-28T05:52:00.000Z-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jgera5-2013-12-29T08:05:00.000Z-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> Every reference I've ever seen of the character has been as "Alex <b>P</b> Keaton". Sorry. <a href="/wiki/User:Jgera5" title="User:Jgera5">Jgera5</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jgera5" title="User talk:Jgera5">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alex_P._Keaton#c-Jgera5-2013-12-29T08:05:00.000Z-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jgera5-2013-12-29T08:05:00.000Z-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jgera5-2013-12-29T08:05:00.000Z-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-George_Ho-2013-12-29T08:58:00.000Z-Jgera5-2013-12-29T08:05:00.000Z"></span>Not every: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/celebritology/post/michael-j-fox-turns-50-we-celebrate-with-an-alex-p-keaton-fest/2011/06/09/AGmM8QNH_blog.html">[1]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.thereformedbroker.com/2011/10/07/alex-p-keaton-an-alternative-history/">[2]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.cleveland.com/people/index.ssf/2013/12/californication_coming_to_an_e.html">[3]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://entertainmenttoday.net/tv/16130/2013/12/parkinsons-be-damned-michael-j-fox-loves-doing-his-new-show/">[4]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:George_Ho" title="User:George Ho">George Ho</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:George_Ho" title="User talk:George Ho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alex_P._Keaton#c-George_Ho-2013-12-29T08:58:00.000Z-Jgera5-2013-12-29T08:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:58, 29 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-George_Ho-2013-12-29T08:58:00.000Z-Jgera5-2013-12-29T08:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-George_Ho-2013-12-29T08:58:00.000Z-Jgera5-2013-12-29T08:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Montanabw-2014-01-07T06:28:00.000Z-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> and someone trout slap the proposer for a waste of bandwidth. <a href="/wiki/User:Montanabw" title="User:Montanabw"><span style="color:#006600;">Montanabw</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Montanabw" title="User talk:Montanabw">(talk)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alex_P._Keaton#c-Montanabw-2014-01-07T06:28:00.000Z-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:28, 7 January 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Montanabw-2014-01-07T06:28:00.000Z-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Montanabw-2014-01-07T06:28:00.000Z-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AnemoneProjectors-2014-01-07T16:30:00.000Z-Amakuru-2013-12-28T23:05:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMONNAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMONNAME">WP:COMMONNAME</a>. The character is widely known as Alex P. Keaton, and of the four sources George Ho posted above, the first two make numerous mentions of "Alex P. 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