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.portalright{clear:right;float:right;margin:0.5em 0 0.5em 1em}}</style><ul role="navigation" aria-label="Portals" class="noprint portalbox portalborder portalright"> <li class="portalbox-entry"><span class="portalbox-image"><span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Foodlogo2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Foodlogo2.svg/32px-Foodlogo2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="32" height="23" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Foodlogo2.svg/48px-Foodlogo2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Foodlogo2.svg/64px-Foodlogo2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="146" data-file-height="106"/></a></span></span><span class="portalbox-link"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Food" title="Portal:Food">Food portal</a></span></li></ul>This article is within the scope of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Food_and_drink" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink">WikiProject Food and drink</a></b>, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of <a href="/wiki/Food" title="Food">food</a> and <a href="/wiki/Drink" title="Drink">drink</a> related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Food_and_drink" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Food and drink</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Food and drink</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Food and drink articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr><tr><td class="assess import-high"><a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_Food_and_drink_articles" title="Category:High-importance Food and drink articles">High</a></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article has been rated as <b>High-importance</b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Food_and_drink/Assessment#Importance_scale" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Assessment">project's importance scale</a>.</td></tr><tr><td colspan="3" style="padding:0"><table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background:transparent;width:100%"><tbody><tr><th style="text-align:left;padding:0.2em 2px 0.2em 0">Food and Drink task list:</th></tr><tr><td style="text-align:left;padding:5px;background-color:white;border:1px solid #c0c090;margin-top:5px"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1129693374">.mw-parser-output .hlist dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul{margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt,.mw-parser-output .hlist li{margin:0;display:inline}.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline ul,.mw-parser-output .hlist dl dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist dl ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist dl ul,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol ul,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul ul{display:inline}.mw-parser-output .hlist .mw-empty-li{display:none}.mw-parser-output .hlist dt::after{content:": "}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li::after{content:" · ";font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li:last-child::after{content:none}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd dd:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dd dt:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dd li:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt dd:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt dt:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt li:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist li dd:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist li dt:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist li li:first-child::before{content:" (";font-weight:normal}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd dd:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dd dt:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dd li:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt dd:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt dt:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt li:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li dd:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li dt:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li li:last-child::after{content:")";font-weight:normal}.mw-parser-output .hlist ol{counter-reset:listitem}.mw-parser-output .hlist ol>li{counter-increment:listitem}.mw-parser-output .hlist ol>li::before{content:" "counter(listitem)"\a0 "}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd ol>li:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt ol>li:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist li ol>li:first-child::before{content:" ("counter(listitem)"\a0 "}</style><div class="hlist plainlinks" style="text-align:center;font-size:90%;"><ul><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Food_and_drink%2FOpen_tasks%2Ftasks&action=edit">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Food_and_drink%2FOpen_tasks%2Ftasks&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Food_and_drink%2FOpen_tasks%2Ftasks&action=watch">watch</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikiProject_Food_and_drink%2FOpen_tasks%2Ftasks&action=purge">purge</a></li></ul> </div> <dl><dd>To edit this page, select <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Food_and_drink/Open_tasks/tasks" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Open tasks/tasks">here</a></b></dd></dl> <table style="background:transparent"> <tbody><tr> <td style="vertical-align:top;"><div style="width:65px; vertical-align:top; padding-top:15px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png/50px-Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png/75px-Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png/100px-Nuvola_apps_package_editors.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span></div><br/> </td> <td>Here are some tasks you can do for <i><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Food_and_drink" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink">WikiProject Food and drink</a></b></i>: <div style="font-size:90%; vertical-align:top;"> <ul><li>Help bring these <i>Top Importance</i> articles currently <b>B</b> Status or below up to <b>GA</b> status: <i><a href="/wiki/Agaricus_bisporus" title="Agaricus bisporus">Agaricus bisporus</a></i> (i.e. mushroom), <a href="/wiki/Beef" title="Beef">Beef</a>, <a href="/wiki/Bread" title="Bread">Bread</a>, <a href="/wiki/Curry" title="Curry">Curry</a>, <a href="/wiki/Drink" title="Drink">Drink</a>, <a href="/wiki/Food" title="Food">Food</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ham_and_eggs" title="Ham and eggs">Ham and eggs</a>, <a href="/wiki/Soy_sauce" title="Soy sauce">Soy sauce</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sushi" title="Sushi">Sushi</a>, <a href="/wiki/Yogurt" title="Yogurt">Yogurt</a></li> <li>Bring these <i>Top Importance</i> articles currently at <b>GA</b> status up to <b>FA</b> status: <a href="/wiki/Beer" title="Beer">Beer</a>, <a href="/wiki/French_cuisine" title="French cuisine">French cuisine</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sugar" title="Sugar">Sugar</a></li> <li>Bring these <i>High Importance</i> articles currently at <b>GA</b> status up to <b>FA</b> status: <a href="/wiki/Apple" title="Apple">Apple</a>, <a href="/wiki/Burger_King" title="Burger King">Burger King</a>, <a href="/wiki/Fish" title="Fish">Fish</a></li> <li>Participate in project-related <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Food_and_drink" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Food and drink">deletion discussions</a>.</li> <li>Delete unrelated trivia sections found in articles. Please review <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Trivia" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Trivia">WP:Trivia</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Handling_trivia" title="Wikipedia:Handling trivia">WP:Handling trivia</a> to learn how to do this.</li> <li>Add the <b>{{WikiProject Food and drink}}</b> project banner to food and drink related articles and content to help bring them to the attention of members. For a complete list of banners for WikiProject Food and drink and its child projects, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Food_and_drink/Banners" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Banners">select here</a>.</li> <li>Provide photographs and images for <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_requested_images_of_food" title="Category:Wikipedia requested images of food">Category:Wikipedia requested images of food</a></li> <li>Consider joining this project's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Food_and_drink/Members/assessors" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Members/assessors">Assessment task force</a>. 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class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-184.148.58.23-20240707142800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Glizzy-20240707142800","replies":["c-184.148.58.23-20240707142800-Glizzy"],"text":"Glizzy","linkableTitle":"Glizzy"}--><h2 id="Glizzy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Glizzy-20240707142800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Glizzy-20240707142800"></span>Glizzy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Glizzy-20240707142800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hot_dog&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Glizzy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-184.148.58.23-20240707142800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Glizzy-20240707142800","replies":["c-184.148.58.23-20240707142800-Glizzy"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-184.148.58.23-20240707142800-Glizzy","timestamp":"20240707142800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-184.148.58.23-20240707142800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Glizzy-20240707142800","replies":["c-184.148.58.23-20240707142800-Glizzy"],"text":"Glizzy","linkableTitle":"Glizzy"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-184.148.58.23-20240707142800-Glizzy"></span>If Tube Steak is okay for an alternative name, Glizzy should be as well. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/184.148.58.23" title="Special:Contributions/184.148.58.23">184.148.58.23</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:184.148.58.23&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:184.148.58.23 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hot_dog#c-184.148.58.23-20240707142800-Glizzy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 7 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-184.148.58.23-20240707142800-Glizzy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240707142800","author":"184.148.58.23","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-184.148.58.23-20240707142800-Glizzy","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-184.148.58.23-20240707142800-Glizzy"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-147.219.59.82-20240728175900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Texas-20240728175900","replies":["c-147.219.59.82-20240728175900-Texas"],"text":"Texas","linkableTitle":"Texas"}--><h2 id="Texas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Texas-20240728175900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Texas-20240728175900"></span>Texas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Texas-20240728175900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hot_dog&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Texas"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-147.219.59.82-20240728175900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Texas-20240728175900","replies":["c-147.219.59.82-20240728175900-Texas"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-147.219.59.82-20240728175900-Texas","timestamp":"20240728175900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-147.219.59.82-20240728175900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Texas-20240728175900","replies":["c-147.219.59.82-20240728175900-Texas"],"text":"Texas","linkableTitle":"Texas"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-147.219.59.82-20240728175900-Texas"></span>"Texas hot dogs are spicy variants found in upstate New York and Pennsylvania (and as "all the way dogs" in New Jersey), but not Texas." Texas absolutely does have chili dogs, they just aren't known as "Texas" hot dogs there. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/147.219.59.82" title="Special:Contributions/147.219.59.82">147.219.59.82</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:147.219.59.82&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:147.219.59.82 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hot_dog#c-147.219.59.82-20240728175900-Texas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 28 July 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-147.219.59.82-20240728175900-Texas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240728175900","author":"147.219.59.82","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-147.219.59.82-20240728175900-Texas","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-147.219.59.82-20240728175900-Texas"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches-20240824020900","replies":["c-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches"],"text":"Hotdogs are sandwiches","linkableTitle":"Hotdogs are sandwiches"}--><h2 id="Hotdogs_are_sandwiches" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches-20240824020900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches-20240824020900"></span>Hotdogs are sandwiches<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches-20240824020900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hot_dog&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Hotdogs are sandwiches"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches-20240824020900","replies":["c-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241106101000-Czetie-20241106092300","timestamp":"20241106101000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__10__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches-20240824020900","replies":["c-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches"],"text":"Hotdogs are sandwiches","linkableTitle":"Hotdogs are sandwiches"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches"></span>Hot dogs are a considered a sandwich by many because of it being bread products with meat in between. Hot dogs by definition fit what is thought as the requirements of what a sandwich needs to be to be a sandwich. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE" title="Special:Contributions/2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE">2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hot_dog#c-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:09, 24 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240824020900","author":"2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches","replies":["c-Czetie-20240929181000-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900-Hotdogs_are_sandwiches"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Czetie-20240929181000-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900"></span>I propose that this entire section be deleted. The question is (a) utterly trivial and (b) not intended to be taken seriously. There is no formal or rigorous definition of what is or is not a sandwich because <i>it doesn't matter</i> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Czetie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Czetie (page does not exist)">Czetie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Czetie" title="User talk:Czetie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hot_dog#c-Czetie-20240929181000-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 29 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Czetie-20240929181000-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240929181000","author":"Czetie","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Czetie-20240929181000-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900","replies":["c-Czetie-20241024162400-Czetie-20240929181000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Czetie-20240929181000-2604:3D09:2A82:2A00:ED13:8F49:727:EFAE-20240824020900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Czetie-20241024162400-Czetie-20240929181000"></span>My deletion of this section was reverted. I have reinstated it. The section is pop trivia with no business being in this article.</dd> <dd>If somebody things it belongs back, please <b>debate it here in good faith</b> rather than reverting it again.</dd> <dd>Note: the previous explanation that the section was "well-cited" is no argument. A thing can be well-cited without in any way being relevant to the article's readers. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Czetie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Czetie (page does not exist)">Czetie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Czetie" title="User talk:Czetie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hot_dog#c-Czetie-20241024162400-Czetie-20240929181000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:24, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Czetie-20241024162400-Czetie-20240929181000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024162400","author":"Czetie","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Czetie-20241024162400-Czetie-20240929181000","replies":["c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105191000-Czetie-20241024162400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Czetie-20241024162400-Czetie-20240929181000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105191000-Czetie-20241024162400"></span>I have reverted you @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Czetie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Czetie (page does not exist)">Czetie</a>. It is up to you to make the argument for why it should be removed, not anyone else to argue that something well cited should not stay. <a href="/wiki/User:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User:Hey man im josh">Hey man im josh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User talk:Hey man im josh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hot_dog#c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105191000-Czetie-20241024162400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105191000-Czetie-20241024162400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105191000","author":"Hey man im josh","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105191000-Czetie-20241024162400","replies":["c-Czetie-20241105195800-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105191000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105191000-Czetie-20241024162400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Czetie-20241105195800-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105191000"></span>I already made that argument, see my comment above which you ignored as well as my comment on the original edit. Once again, <b>nobody cares whether some people think it's a sandwich.</b> It's pop culture trivia, utterly ephemeral, and utterly irrelevant to the article.</dd> <dd>And again "well cited" is absolutely irrelevant. Any ridiculous trivia can be "well cited", that doesn't make it relevant or encyclopedic. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Czetie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Czetie (page does not exist)">Czetie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Czetie" title="User talk:Czetie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hot_dog#c-Czetie-20241105195800-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105191000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Czetie-20241105195800-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105191000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105195800","author":"Czetie","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Czetie-20241105195800-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105191000","replies":["c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105200400-Czetie-20241105195800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Czetie-20241105195800-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105191000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105200400-Czetie-20241105195800"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Czetie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Czetie (page does not exist)">Czetie</a>: I care and do not believe it to be trivia, which invalidates your argument that "nobody cares". There's clear <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SIGCOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SIGCOV">WP:SIGCOV</a> on the matter, which makes it worth inclusion. I have reverted your removal. Please be aware of Wikipedia's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EW">edit warring</a> poliocy. <a href="/wiki/User:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User:Hey man im josh">Hey man im josh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User talk:Hey man im josh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hot_dog#c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105200400-Czetie-20241105195800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105200400-Czetie-20241105195800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105200400","author":"Hey man im josh","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105200400-Czetie-20241105195800","replies":["c-Czetie-20241105201300-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105200400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105200400-Czetie-20241105195800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Czetie-20241105201300-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105200400"></span>And I have undone it again.</dd> <dd>As requested I have justified its removal. You have not justified its inclusion. At best it's pop culture.</dd> <dd>Edit warring policy goes both ways. If anybody is in violation, it's you by your failure to justify the relevance. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Czetie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Czetie (page does not exist)">Czetie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Czetie" title="User talk:Czetie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hot_dog#c-Czetie-20241105201300-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105200400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:13, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Czetie-20241105201300-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105200400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105201300","author":"Czetie","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Czetie-20241105201300-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105200400","replies":["c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105201600-Czetie-20241105201300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Czetie-20241105201300-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105200400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105201600-Czetie-20241105201300"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Czetie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Czetie (page does not exist)">Czetie</a>: To be clear, you've removed the content four times, a change which has been reverted by two separate editors. The standards on Wikipedia involve discussion if your changes are contested, which yours were. When a change is contested, we revert to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:STATUSQUO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:STATUSQUO">WP:STATUSQUO</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User:Hey man im josh">Hey man im josh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User talk:Hey man im josh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hot_dog#c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105201600-Czetie-20241105201300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105201600-Czetie-20241105201300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241105201600","author":"Hey man im josh","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105201600-Czetie-20241105201300","replies":["c-Czetie-20241106092300-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105201600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105201600-Czetie-20241105201300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Czetie-20241106092300-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105201600"></span>I have removed it four times and you have reinstated it three (and for all I know the "other" editor is just you but not logged in.)</dd> <dd><b>You contested it</b> and have repeatedly removed it it without explanation.</dd> <dd>You have repeatedly asked me to justify the change and I have repeatedly done so. You have repeatedly failed to address the justification.</dd> <dd>Once again, "sourced" does not mean encyclopedic.</dd> <dd><b>The fact that you repeatedly fail to justify the inclusion of this pop culture trivia, but instead appeal to editing policy, I think says everything about the value (none) of the content you are defending. The policy you should be thinking about is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism" title="Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism">WP:AIV</a></b></dd> <dd>If you like this trivia so much, go write an article about the "is a hot dog a sandwich" meme. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Czetie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Czetie (page does not exist)">Czetie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Czetie" title="User talk:Czetie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hot_dog#c-Czetie-20241106092300-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105201600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:23, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Czetie-20241106092300-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105201600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241106092300","author":"Czetie","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Czetie-20241106092300-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105201600","replies":["c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241106101000-Czetie-20241106092300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Czetie-20241106092300-Hey_man_im_josh-20241105201600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241106101000-Czetie-20241106092300"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Czetie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Czetie (page does not exist)">Czetie</a>: You're accusing <a href="/wiki/User:Queen_of_Hearts" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Queen of Hearts">Queen of Hearts</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Yoshi24517" title="User:Yoshi24517">Yoshi24517</a> of being my accounts? You're welcome to file a report at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPI">WP:SPI</a>, but spending even 30 seconds looking into the issue would make it abundantly clear that this is an insane accusation. Though it would be impressive if I could manage to be all three of these accounts.</dd> <dd>You're misunderstanding what <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AIV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AIV">WP:AIV</a> is for, this is a content dispute, and your edits much more closely resemble vandalism than that of the 3 users that have reverted your changes. As previously mentioned, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:STATUSQUO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:STATUSQUO">WP:STATUSQUO</a>. The long standing version of the article includes the section. That means we leave it until a conversation is had.</dd> <dd>Your argument is simply <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IDONTLIKEIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IDONTLIKEIT">WP:IDONTLIKEIT</a>, which is not a valid reason to remove content. The references show clear <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SIGCOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SIGCOV">significant coverage</a>, making the section contextually relevant. It is backed up by a fair bit of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">reliable sourcing</a> as well, so there's no urgency or need for immediate removal, or frankly removal in general. <a href="/wiki/User:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User:Hey man im josh">Hey man im josh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hey_man_im_josh" title="User talk:Hey man im josh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hot_dog#c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241106101000-Czetie-20241106092300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:10, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241106101000-Czetie-20241106092300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241106101000","author":"Hey man im josh","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241106101000-Czetie-20241106092300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hey_man_im_josh-20241106101000-Czetie-20241106092300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JacktheBrown-20240825005100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ngram-20240825005100","replies":["c-JacktheBrown-20240825005100-Ngram"],"text":"Ngram","linkableTitle":"Ngram"}--><h2 id="Ngram" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ngram-20240825005100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ngram-20240825005100"></span>Ngram<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ngram-20240825005100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hot_dog&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Ngram"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JacktheBrown-20240825005100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ngram-20240825005100","replies":["c-JacktheBrown-20240825005100-Ngram"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Dimadick-20240825121900-JacktheBrown-20240825005100","timestamp":"20240825121900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-JacktheBrown-20240825005100","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Ngram-20240825005100","replies":["c-JacktheBrown-20240825005100-Ngram"],"text":"Ngram","linkableTitle":"Ngram"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JacktheBrown-20240825005100-Ngram"></span>A curiosity: if we consider Ngram important (example: for "panini", "cannoli", "panzerotti", "biscotti", etc.), why don't we use "hot dogs"? See: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=hot+dog%2C+hot+dogs&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3">https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=hot+dog%2C+hot+dogs&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3</a>; "hot dogs" is more common than "hot dog", albeit slightly. Mine is a curiosity, I'm not proposing anything. <a href="/wiki/User:JacktheBrown" title="User:JacktheBrown">JacktheBrown</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JacktheBrown" title="User talk:JacktheBrown">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hot_dog#c-JacktheBrown-20240825005100-Ngram" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:51, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JacktheBrown-20240825005100-Ngram"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240825005100","author":"JacktheBrown","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JacktheBrown-20240825005100-Ngram","replies":["c-Dimadick-20240825121900-JacktheBrown-20240825005100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JacktheBrown-20240825005100-Ngram"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_titles#Use_singular_form" title="Wikipedia:Article titles"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dimadick-20240825121900-JacktheBrown-20240825005100"></span>Use singular form</a>: "Article titles are generally singular in form, e.g. <a href="/wiki/Horse" title="Horse">Horse</a>, not <a href="/wiki/Horses" class="mw-redirect" title="Horses">Horses</a>. Exceptions include nouns that are <a href="/wiki/Plurale_tantum" title="Plurale tantum">always in a plural form</a> in English (e.g. <a href="/wiki/Scissors" title="Scissors">scissors</a> or <a href="/wiki/Trousers" title="Trousers">trousers</a>) and the names of <a href="/wiki/Class_(set_theory)" title="Class (set theory)">classes</a> of objects (e.g. <a href="/wiki/Arabic_numerals" title="Arabic numerals">Arabic numerals</a> or <a href="/wiki/Bantu_languages" title="Bantu languages">Bantu languages</a>). For more guidance, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(plurals)" title="Wikipedia:Naming conventions (plurals)">WP:Naming conventions (plurals)</a>." 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