Deseret Morning News | Reader comments: Teams may fear playing Y. in Provo

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en"> <head><script type="text/javascript" src="https://web-static.archive.org/_static/js/bundle-playback.js?v=7YQSqjSh" charset="utf-8"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="https://web-static.archive.org/_static/js/wombat.js?v=txqj7nKC" charset="utf-8"></script> <script>window.RufflePlayer=window.RufflePlayer||{};window.RufflePlayer.config={"autoplay":"on","unmuteOverlay":"hidden"};</script> <script type="text/javascript" src="https://web-static.archive.org/_static/js/ruffle/ruffle.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript"> __wm.init("https://web.archive.org/web"); __wm.wombat("http://deseretnews.com:80/user/comments/1,5150,695233921,00.html","20071209120947","https://web.archive.org/","web","https://web-static.archive.org/_static/", "1197202187"); </script> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="https://web-static.archive.org/_static/css/banner-styles.css?v=p7PEIJWi" /> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="https://web-static.archive.org/_static/css/iconochive.css?v=3PDvdIFv" />  <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/> <title>Deseret Morning News | Reader comments: Teams may fear playing Y. in Provo</title> <meta name="copyright" content="漏 2007 Deseret News Publishing Company"/> <meta name="description" content="Reader comments: Teams may fear playing Y. in Provo"/> <meta name="keywords" content="Deseret Morning News, deseret news utah jazz, Deseret News utah jazz, deseret news sports, utah jazz nba, utah jazz basketball, Real Salt Lake, BYU Cougars, byu football, byu, byu athletics, byu sports, byu baseball, byu football schedule, Utah Utes, utah football, utes, utah state football, utah utes baskeball, utah utes football, dick harmon, sports commentary, utah high school sports"/> <link href="/web/20071209120947cs_/http://deseretnews.com/css/style.css?ver=1.06" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"/>  <link href="/web/20071209120947cs_/http://deseretnews.com/css/dmn-advert.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"/> <script type="text/javascript" language="javascript" src="/web/20071209120947js_/http://deseretnews.com/js/handle-error.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" language="javascript" src="/web/20071209120947js_/http://deseretnews.com/js/no-frames.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" language="javascript" src="/web/20071209120947js_/http://deseretnews.com/js/topnav.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" language="javascript" src="/web/20071209120947js_/http://deseretnews.com/js/rollovers.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" language="javascript"> var menudiv = new Array('dropmenu_classifieds'); </script> <script src="/web/20071209120947js_/http://deseretnews.com/jscript/dn_v2_head.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/web/20071209120947js_/http://deseretnews.com/js/tabcontent.js"> /*********************************************** * Tab Content script- (c) Dynamic Drive DHTML code library (www.dynamicdrive.com) * This notice MUST stay intact for legal use * Visit Dynamic Drive at http://www.dynamicdrive.com/ for full source code ***********************************************/ </script> <script language="JavaScript"> var docId = 695233921; </script> <link rel="stylesheet" href="/web/20071209120947cs_/http://deseretnews.com/css/liteboxRev3.css" type="text/css" media="screen"/> <style type="text/css"> #formCounter{ margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 0px; float: right; text-align: right; } #commentForm #formCounter input{ margin-bottom: 0px; } </style> <script type="text/javascript"> var oldValue; function checkWordLen(obj, limit){ var len = obj.value.split(/[\s]+/); oldValue = obj.value; if(len.length > limit){ obj.value = oldValue; document.getElementById('wordCounter').value = 0; return false; } document.getElementById('wordCounter').value = parseInt(limit - len.length); return true; } function submitform(obj, textId, limit){ textObj = document.getElementById(textId); if(textObj.value == "Enter comment" || textObj.value == ""){ alert("You must enter a comment!"); }else{ if(checkWordLen(textObj, limit)){ obj.disabled=true document.forms[1].submit(); } else{ alert("You cannot put more than "+limit+" words in this text area."); } } } </script> </head> <body id="sports" onload=""> <div id="container"> <div id="header"> <div id="timestamp"> Sunday, December 9, 2007 </div> <div id="masthead"> <div id="masthead_top"> <div id="weather">  <img id="weather_icon" src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/img/weather/wu/nt_cloudy.gif" alt="Overcast"/> <span id="weather_city">Salt Lake City</span><br/> Overcast <br/> <span id="temperature">29˚</span><br/> <span id="weather_links"><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/weather/1,5368,,00.html">Forecast</a> | <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/traffic/1,5152,,00.html">Traffic</a></span> </div> <h1 id="logo"> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/home/1,5125,,00.html"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/img/masthead_logo.gif" alt="Deseret News"/></a> </h1> <div id="search"> <form id="searchform" name="searchform" method="post" action="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/sitesearch/1,5155,,00.html"> <input id="searchtext" name="searchtext" type="text" value="SEARCH DESERETNEWS.COM" onfocus="if (this.value == 'SEARCH DESERETNEWS.COM') { this.value = ''; }" onblur="if (this.value == '') { this.value = 'SEARCH DESERETNEWS.COM'; }"/><input id="searchbutton" name="searchbutton" type="image" src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/img/forms/hdr_btn_search.gif"/> <div id="searchlabel"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/img/icons/google.gif" style="width:51px;height:15px;margin:0 0 0 6px;float:right;" alt="google"/>Powered by</div> </form> </div> </div> <div id="masthead_bottom"> <ul id="member_links"> <li><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/account/login/1,5211,,00.html">Sign in</a></li> <li><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/account/1,5207,,00.html">Register</a></li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/http://www.nacorp.com/nac2/sub/sub_info.html" target="_blank">Subscribe</a></li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/http://youreedition.com/" target="_blank">E-edition</a></li> </ul> <div id="masthead_ad" class="ad"></div> <div id="gallery"> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695229136,00.html"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/img/promos/holtv_promo.jpg" alt=""/></a> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695229136,00.html">Holiday</a><br/> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695229136,00.html">TV schedule</a> </div> </div> </div> <ul id="topnav"> <li><a id="topnav_home" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/home/1,5125,,00.html">Home</a></li> <li><a id="topnav_utah" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/utah/1,5126,,00.html">Utah</a></li> <li><a id="topnav_community" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/community/1,5159,,00.html">Community</a></li> <li><a id="topnav_world" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/world-nation/1,5142,,00.html">World & nation</a></li> <li><a id="topnav_movies" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/movies/1,5238,,00.html">Movies</a></li> <li><a id="topnav_sports" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/sports/1,5147,,00.html">Sports</a></li> <li><a id="topnav_lds" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/ldsnews/1,5151,,00.html">LDS Newsline</a></li> <li><a id="topnav_business" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/business/1,5160,,00.html">Business</a></li> <li><a id="topnav_arts" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/arts-entertainment/1,5163,,00.html">Arts & Entertainment</a></li> <li><a id="topnav_photos" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/photo/1,5175,,00.html">Photos</a></li> <li><a id="topnav_opinion" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/opinion/1,5161,,00.html">Opinion</a></li> <li><a id="topnav_obits" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/http://www.legacy.com/DeseretNews/">Obituaries</a></li> <li onmouseover="swapMenu('dropmenu_classifieds', 1);" onmouseout="swapMenu('dropmenu_classifieds');"> <a id="topnav_classifieds" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/http://classifieds.deseretnews.com/?sc=dmn">Classifieds</a> <ul id="dropmenu_classifieds" class="dropmenu off" onmouseover="swapMenu('dropmenu_classifieds', 1);" onmouseout="swapMenu('dropmenu_classifieds');"> <li id="dropmenu_classifieds_jobs" onmouseover="changeClass('dropmenu_classifieds_jobs', 'over');" onmouseout="changeClass('dropmenu_classifieds_jobs', '');"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/http://yourutahjob.com/?sc=dmn" target="_blank">Jobs</a></li> <li id="dropmenu_classifieds_cars" onmouseover="changeClass('dropmenu_classifieds_cars', 'over');" onmouseout="changeClass('dropmenu_classifieds_cars', '');"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/http://mediaonecars.com/?sc=dmn" target="_blank">Cars</a></li> <li id="dropmenu_classifieds_realestate" onmouseover="changeClass('dropmenu_classifieds_realestate', 'over');" onmouseout="changeClass('dropmenu_classifieds_realestate', '');"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/http://utahrealtyguide.com/?sc=dmn" target="_blank">Real Estate</a></li> <li id="dropmenu_classifieds_misc" onmouseover="changeClass('dropmenu_classifieds_misc', 'over');" onmouseout="changeClass('dropmenu_classifieds_misc', '');"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/http://yourutahclassifieds.com/?sc=dmn" target="_blank">Misc</a></li> <li id="dropmenu_classifieds_shop" onmouseover="changeClass('dropmenu_classifieds_shop', 'over');" onmouseout="changeClass('dropmenu_classifieds_shop', '');"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/http://ezklik.com/?sc=dmn" target="_blank">Shop</a></li> </ul> </li> <li><a id="topnav_archives" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/http://www.desnews.com/cgi-bin/archive">Archives</a></li> </ul> </div> <div id="subnav_sports" class="subnav"> <ul> <li id="subnav_sports_jazz"><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/sports/jazz/1,5176,,00.html">Jazz</a></li> <li id="subnav_sports_byu"><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/sports/byu/1,5193,,00.html">BYU</a></li> <li id="subnav_sports_uofu"><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/sports/utah/1,5194,,00.html">U of U</a></li> <li id="subnav_sports_usu"><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/sports/usu/1,5275,,00.html">USU</a></li> <li id="subnav_sports_wsu"><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/sports/wsu/1,5292,,00.html">WSU</a></li> <li id="subnav_sports_highschool"><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/sports/hs/1,5162,,00.html">High school</a></li> <li id="subnav_sports_grizzlies"><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/sports/grizzlies/1,5199,,00.html">Grizzlies</a></li> <li id="subnav_sports_blaze"><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/sports/blaze/1,5200,,00.html">Blaze</a></li> <li id="subnav_sports_grid_picks"><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/gridpicks/1,3518,,00.html">Grid Picks</a></li> <li id="subnav_sports_skireport"><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/sports/skireport/1,5438,,00.html">Ski report</a></li> </ul> </div> <div id="storyContent"> <div id="main_col" class="column">  <div id="page_headline"> <div class="commentNum"><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233921,00.html">Read story</a></div> <h2>Reader comments: Teams may fear playing Y. in Provo</h2> </div> <div id="commentList"> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>This isn't a neutral court.</b> | 12:58 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I'm sure all the Michigan State fans are looking forward to taking on BYU at the ESA since it is not necessarily a "home game" for BYU. Yeah right. I don't really think it has anything to do with getting out of playing at the Marriott Center. Just a ploy to try and make the game attract more fans in a more centralized city to make more money. The only recent team I heard that fears other stadiums is BYU...afraid to go to Utah State...afraid of a 1 and 1...and that's probably why they agreed to play ESA next year. Great teams will play anyone, anywhere. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>DRM</b> | 1:13 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> What's up with giving the students the worst seats in the house? Come on, if the tickets are included with the student pass, shouldn't they at least get seats comprable to those they'd have playing in the Marriot Center. Even my dad, who has season tickets, was bumped back 6 rows from his usual row in the MC. What a rip off. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>vancougar</b> | 4:45 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Whatever the reason, having games from time to time at ESA is a fantastic idea. Teams all over the country have been doing this kind of thing for years. It provides an opportunity for fans who cannot or will not travel to see a big game. Yes, it disrupts prices and season ticket holders...for one game. Big deal. Whatever the outcome of this game, this is a fastastic scheduling move by the schools involved. </div> </div> <div class="continue"> Comments continue below </div> <div id="ad_300" class="ad"> <div id="ad6Sp"></div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>t_stuke</b> | 5:10 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Like "this isn't a neutral court" said, BYU is too afraid to play USU in Logan. We'll still bring more students anyway, we've had a louder crowd in every in state game we've had so far, and that won't change anytime soon. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>BYU knocks off MSU</b> | 5:45 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Hey "This isn't a neutral court", you need to get out of Utah more.<br><br>Also, it does blow that the students don't have front rows seats. That would definitely spook MSU.<br><br>GO COUGS! Beat the Spartans! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>lezoave</b> | 6:29 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> who would want to play in logan? it IS economics. BYU makes a lot more money playing in provo, or in this case SLC. Utah State is a joke of a school. Especially football. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Cougar Passion</b> | 6:48 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> "Great teams will play anyone, anywhere." Right. That's why BYU has been able to schedule OK State, Mich State, and Stanford in Provo, right? The fact is that some home court advantages in college basketball are extremely daunting, even for the big-name programs. Utah State is one of them, frankly, which is why BYU has taken the same stance others take toward them. I don't like it, but I do understand it. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Cougars1</b> | 6:49 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I am a faithful BYU fan but I have to say that BYU fans can be the worst whiners (see post DRM), I'm out of state and to keep up with Cougar athletics I spend a lot of time reading the DN and it blows me away how bad some of the Y fans whine. Whine about the bowl game, whine about the opponent, the TV network, the refs, the price of seats for the bowl game, and now the seats at the ESA for the upcoming basketball game. I think it's great to be a cougar fan!! But some of you make it sound like it is such a miserable experience, if it's so bad why don't you follow something else? </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Go Aggies</b> | 7:01 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> That's funny... BYU won't play USU on a home and home. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Great Dane</b> | 7:07 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I agree with the first comment, about BYU not wanting to play at Utah State this year, because they have a "young team." Apparently wins are more important to BYU than traditions, since this is like the 3rd time since they traditionally started playing each other every year that they won't be playing. I also think it's terrible that we have to play at ESA next year, then in Logan the year after. Besides, it's just one game, and it's a preseason game. Most coaches I figure are probably more concerned with conference games, since that determines seeding and a better chance to get into the NCAA tourney. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>To Cougars1</b> | 7:44 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Why do you whine about the fans? Maybe you should stop reading the comment forum or follow something else. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Re:Stuke</b> | 7:52 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Who wants to drive to Logan in the Winter?<br><br>Wake up!<br><br>It's a hole. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Matt</b> | 7:55 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> The Marriott Center is bigger than the Energy Solutions Arena (seating capacity of 22,700 compared with 19,911). There are lots of motivations for having the game in SLC, but the ability to sell more tickets isn't one of them. (Maybe they can sell fewer tickets for more money!) </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Oh come on</b> | 8:06 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Nobody fears playing the Zoo in the Marriott Center or at Edwards Stadium. Its like attending Sacrament Meeting in those places. Two of the most awe inspiring venues in the country and the two least intimidating places to play. The idiot in front of you with his arms folded turns and scolds you when you boo and hiss. Try attending a game at Kansas, Duke, UNLV, UTAH, UTAH State... It is and advantage to the Zoo to play away from campus. That way those of us who are real fans and not yet preparing for the sabbath can truly be fans.... </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Home Court</b> | 8:23 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Play your home games at home and your road games at the road team's home. "Gives people a chance to see the team when they otherwise wouldn't have the opportunity"...it's 45 mins down the road, not 500 miles away. Simply put, it's college basketball, and outside of tournament play, play your games at the schools (something called tradition, school spirit...college athletics). It's just one more step towards the greater commercialization of college athletics...money, money, money, money, money.....by the way, has anyone noticed that there are now more commercials at a BYU home football game than on TV? </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>cougar fan</b> | 8:30 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Not all cougar fans are complaining. I'm excited to see two great teams compete, and I'm going to be loud in support of mine. <br><br>BYU is an awesome place in so many ways. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Cougar Bashing</b> | 8:30 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Basketball being a winter sport sometimes making it to Provo daunting for fans who live outside of Utah County. Who is hurt by having a game in an NBA arena? And why do the Utah and Utah State fans have to bash the Cougars? With the second longest home court winning streak in the nation, it's easy to see why some would be reluctant to play there.<br>I love the idea of a WAC and MWC showdown with BYU and Utah at the EOS. I hope it comes to fruition. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>RE: Cougars1</b> | 8:33 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> You explain very well why I love to see the Cougars win, but I stopped calling myself a "Y fan" years ago. <br><br>Fine, we're all human, and many Cougar fans are really good people with lots of class. BUT more than a few others--especially the ones who vent their venom at their opponents, referees, spectators who disagree, AND their own coaches and team during the week and then go to church on Sunday and pretend to believe in faith, hope, and charity--really, REALLY need some work. And in some cases, possibly professional help. They're the ones giving BYU a bad name.<br><br>Can't wait for the posts calling me a sanctimonious snob who doesn't believe in "fun" or other ridiculous nonsense, merely for pointing out an extremely unpleasant truth! But before you fire off those angry messages, will you please ask yourselves one question first: Does the shoe fit? Thanks much. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Neat!</b> | 8:35 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> To lezoave: Utah State is a MUCH better school than BYU. Yes, the football program is horrible, but the school is much better.<br>GO AGGIES!!! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Re: Cougars1</b> | 8:36 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I keep an objective point of view, and I agree with you, to a point. The only thing you don't mention is that there are fans on all sides that are the same way. This season in football is a perfect example. BYU loses to UCLA and complain about being homered with bad calls and such. The more vocal Ute fans berated the BYU fans who complained, and over generalized BYU fans in saying that all BYU fans are like that. Fast forward to November, Utah fresh off it's loss to BYU does what? They complain about being homered by pro-BYU refs. The more vocal BYU fans berate the Ute fans and overgeneralize all Ute fans as being like that. It goes both ways. There are annoying fans on both sides of the football/basketball. Anyone who says it's just one side or the other has red/blue blinders on. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>John</b> | 8:38 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> When will USU fans give up this charade they use to keep yelling about BYU playing in Logan. The current contract that will start next year has a game in SLC, Logan and Provo. Sounds pretty equal to me. <br><br>BYU and Utah both get nothing from playing Utah State. The legislature forces the issue for Utah in football and BYU has now agreed to play them again. It is an easy win for both schools but Utah State gets something they desperately need, a sell out. Without these games they are headed to Div-IAA. So when Utah State fans and students start commenting ask them why they cannot sell out their own football games? Then we can talk. Till then, politely thank Utah and BYU for helping them stay in the WAC. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>CougarForLife</b> | 8:39 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Hey cougar1, glad you are a faithful fan, guess we'll see you at the game then. Is it wrong to ask how come students don't get to sit by the court (they are the faithful fans that are at the home games cheering while half the MC is empty) and get relegated to the cheap seats. And is it wrong for season ticket holders ask why they get moved from sideline seats on a decent row (holding those seats ever since the MC was built) to get stuck behind the basket and many rows further back. You call out loyal cougars - what does that make you? </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Cougars2</b> | 8:41 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Thanks Cougars1. I am a fan too, and completely agree with you. And if you think many fans whine in their Posts, try going to a game. It's like they think they are to righteous to have a foul or a penalty called on their team.<br><br>And lezoave, if Utah State is such a "joke" of a school why is BYU playing the game at ESA and not Logan? </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>ShootersNdribblers</b> | 8:42 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Great shooters have a feel for the rims on their home court and they can sense their distance from the hoop based on background colors and lights. <br><br>Great ballhandlers also have a home court advantage of knowing where all the dead spots and springy spots are on their home court. <br><br>Playing at ESA takes those advantages away from BYU. Yes, BYU will still have the crowd on its side, but the home court advantage is extremely watered down. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Anonymous</b> | 8:49 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Where is the middle of Michigan and Utah? Salt Lake City? I think not. So the folks in Provo have to travel 40 tedious miles to the game. The Spartans still have to fly to Utah. Neutral court....please. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>a true Jack-Cougar</b> | 9:06 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I am looking forward to this BYU "home" game for several reasons - a quality opponent, I can Trax to the game, we can go look at the lights at Temple Square afterwords, and most important, I can purchase a beer...er...caffienated soda!!! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>wYo8</b> | 9:17 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I suppose MSU, OSU did not have home court advantage when BYU those teams on Neurtal courts in the past. Hind sight BYU should of played LITTLE, Little brother in Logan this year. USU seems to be struggling with everybody. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>to USU fans</b> | 9:17 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Get a life. So BYU doesn't want to play in Logan. Stop crying and play your own schedule. Your life doesn't need to revolve around who and where BYU is playing. You sound like a little baby brother crying because his big brother left you at home alone. Take stock in your own team -- four wins and five losses suggest you have bigger issues than who and where BYU is playing. I usually have great respect for USU, creating very good teams in a small college town. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Fear</b> | 9:24 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I don't think it's that teams are afraid to play at BYU, rather I think they just don't want to be in Provo. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Alma</b> | 9:39 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> yah!! that's why they have such home records, it's like playing in church, they just put em to sleep, just like sundy school does. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>The Marriott Center</b> | 9:56 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> The Marriott Center IS a tough venue for the visiting team. BYU has an incredible home record and has a crazy, ruckus student section. This is exactly why big name schools are afraid to play BYU in Provo. They have little to gain but a lot to lose - and the risk of losing in Provo is much greater. And they know it. Why else would Michigan State and other big name schools require BYU to play them in neutral locations? And don't tell me it's because of the 45 minute drive from the airport or the bigger venue (with a smaller seating capacity) of the Energy Solutions Arena. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Stop Crying</b> | 9:57 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Anyone else sick of hearing the aggies cry about 'tradition' and 'rivalry'? You can lie to yourselves all you want about being a rival, but it won't change the fact that that COUGS only have one rival. It's not you. Pick some scrub school from your weak conference to cry about.<br><br>It's laughable that anyone would suggest the COUGS are afraid to play in logan. They didn't look very scared beating louisville or losing to carolina. They certainly wouldn't be scared dominating Carroll and the aggs in Logan like they did in Provo last time you guys brought your weak game. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Dear Aggies</b> | 10:00 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> You may have been to busy with your "little brother complex" to notice that you are left off of the hook this year. If you were to have BYU on your schedule you would loose by over 20, regardless of the Venue. It is not even a true rivalry. You hate the Cougars but the Cougars don't even know you exist. You are the little brother just like Weber St. and SUU. I really do not care if we play you or not we are to busy playing 3 top 10 teams, we also have an upcoming game at Wake Forest. So stop your crying and go comment to people that might understand you like the Wildcats fans, because you are all the same to us. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>funny</b> | 10:06 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> it is so you can get a drink after the game...byu has realized that its city sucks..even Logan has far better entertainment than provo..that is unless you like say...nothing </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>BCS?</b> | 10:10 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Why does Harmon refer to "BCS Conferences" in a basketball article? The BCS has nothing to do with Basketball and it is an irrelavant reference. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>BYU is the U of Utah</b> | 10:11 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I can't think of a single thing Utah State has or does better than BYU. Oh, perhaps an agricultural program. LOL! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>USU??</b> | 10:12 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Google Joke:<br>Here is what comes up?<br>*USU Sports<br>*USU Fans<br>*USU Cache Valley frozen logic!<br>Don't bash BYU it makes a silly<br>school, program and fans look even worse!<br>Stay down in the hole where you belong! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>A fan</b> | 10:14 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> From this, I should presume that BYU was "scared" to play Michigan State at home, so that's why last year's game was played at the Palace of Auburn Hills, the home of the Detroit Pistons and much farther away from the MSU campus than ESA is from BYU? </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>realist</b> | 10:15 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Why would Utah State drop down to DI-AA(FCS), so they could go winless there too? </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Branding Iron</b> | 10:20 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> RE: This isn't a neutral court. It's more nuetral than the Marriott Center. It wasn't exactly nuetral in Michigan last year either, was it? If I was an Aggie fan this year I think I'd be a little humble. Your team was awful against Weber and the Utes. The only noise I hear from the Aggies this year is whining from fans about other better teams. I don't blame you for being jealous. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>To John</b> | 10:20 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Haven't you heard Whittingham repeatedly state that the Utah State vs. Utah is a good thing for the fans and he is glad that they play them every year. Why is it that BYU fans continue to talk about how great they are, yet have to cancel their games in Logan because Aggie fans are a little too rude to them (like calling them Provo high school). <br><br>The legislature has nothing to do with continuing tradition. We do thank Utah and BYU (when they dare to come to Logan) for the win in basketball that you can automatically count toward our win column. The sad part is everyone talks smack about Stew's scheduling but it is the scheduling of BYU that usually hurts our strength of basketball schedule. I would like to congratulate the cougars on the first what would appear to be relevant basketball season since Ainge was in uniform in the early 80's. <br><br>One good team every 10 years now that is what I call a national powerhouse like ya'll like to claim<br><br>Go AGGIES </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Re: Stuke</b> | 10:22 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> To Stuke<br>Who wants to go to Happy Valley ever summer, fall, spring, winter, it doesn't matter. No one wants to be near that bubble </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>phillycoug</b> | 10:22 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I love how an article on the game in ESA has instantly become a bashing session. One of my favorite memories from my time in Provo was taking my wife and son up to Salt Lake to watch BYU beat Oklahoma St (which ended up in the Final Four that year). The venue made the afternoon all the more fun, a change of pace from the Marriott Center. I would hope that some of you can get over yourselves and go up and cheer even harder for BYU. This game is huge for the rest of the year. I would if I didn't live 2000 miles away, even if my seats got pushed back 6 rows. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>BYU is the U of Utah</b> | 10:29 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Leave it to a BYU fan to have the first good basketball team in 10 years to forget about their years of irrelevance why Utah State year after year beat them like a little school girl. Once Plaisted is gone so is your ranking for another 10 years. Your ranking won't matter anyway once you bow out in the first round of the tournament anyway. <br><br>While Stew and the Aggies might have one down year in 10 years, but you know that they own you in the long run and will be going to the tournament year after year why you sit home and talk about how great you are. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Aaron</b> | 10:34 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I don't usually comment on these pages because it is a pointless endeavor, but when I saw Neat's post I had to chime in. Utah State is NOT a much better school than BYU. I don't know where you are getting you information, but any informed third party will tell you that BYU is far superior to USU in academics and athletics, not to mention much more successful alumni, better students (based on test scores, HS GPA, national merit scholars, etc.) Give me a break, USU is an average school and BYU is a fine academic institution. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Hey Anonymous!</b> | 10:36 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Last year BYU played Michigan St. in Auburn Hills Michigan. It too was considered a neutral site. The fact is, these teams like playing in larger cities, and preferably on an NBA court. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Looking Forward</b> | 10:41 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I think it is great that BYU is playing in the ESA. Since this is not a "home" game it can be shown on something other than the mtn. and fans can actually see it. I am not sure but I believe that next years Utah Oregon game is also in the ESA.<br><br>By the way, isn't everyone excited about playing No. 6 Michigan St. Take note Bronco, fans get excited about playing quality opponents. Schedule up not down. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>To Cougar1</b> | 10:43 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Why do you keep reposting saying you agree with yourself. I used to be able to watch games now I can't. Do I not have a right to complain. My season tickets bump me back several rows. Do I not have a right to complain. Do you think whining ends with BYU fans? </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>yup yup</b> | 11:02 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> toUSUfans, I couldn't agree with you more. USU is struggling mightily this year. They just lost to a mediocre Utah team a few nights ago where your conference player of the year was held way below his average. Seems like you've all got bigger problems than why the Cougs won't travel up to Logan to play. (BTW, how many times has USU come down to play in Provo in the last 5 years? Once?)<br><br>This is an article about BYU and MSU and their matchup this weekend. It will be a very good game. How many times will the basketball fans of Utah be treated to a top 20 matchup like this? Drew Nietzel and his Spartans are a very good team and will be gunning for a win against a very good Cougar team. Enjoy the matchup because it's shaping up to be a very good game. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>OVERRATED CLAP CLAP CLAP</b> | 11:18 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> K let's look at this logically Y fans. You beat a Louisville team that was missing it's too best players (Padgett and Palacio) Two potential all americans. Then you lost by double digits to Carolina who was also missing it's best player, TY Lawson. I know that it looked like a good showing in Vegas... but I was there. Carolina is a totally different team with Lawson, and Louisville looked like they wanted to get back to the clubs. Yes you have a good basketball team and you will probably win the MTN WORST, but beyond that you will get an eight seed in the tourney and lose in the first or second round. Plus I find it funny how everyone in here bashes on Logan UTah. Have you ever been there... it is one the prettiest valleys around. Anyways I'm gonna go to the game on Saturday just to see H to the Izzo and his boys from Lansing light you up. Spartans by 15 </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Isn't it ironic</b> | 11:25 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> that Harmon writes about the reluctance to play in Provo and states emphatically that teams are scared to do it.<br><br>It is a well known fact that it was BYU's turn to play in Logan this year but Rose wouldn't sign up for it. Would Harmon conclude that reluctance is also due to the fear factor also?<br><br>It's too bad BYU didn't agree to play in Logan this year as it would have been their best chance for victory in years up there. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>AZ COUGAR</b> | 11:40 a.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> to True Jack-Cougar:<br><br>The best post I've yet read... I travel to the games from AZ and it is never just about the ball game. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>jealous</b> | 12:17 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Oooo, look at all the jealous little aggie fans attacking BYU with their comments. I guess that's typical of a group of fans with an inferiority complex. "Our skool is better than the BYU!!" "Weer the best!!!" "You guys are afrade of us!!" Yeah right, go milk a cow or something... </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>to RE: Cougars1</b> | 12:21 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Dude, if you can't handle it then I suggest you quit toturing yourself by reading the comments. Oh and here's a newsflash for you: BYU fans are not perfect people. Shocker... </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Really?</b> | 12:32 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> USU still has a basketball program? Stew Morril still your coach? How many additional pounds has he packed on for this season? You guys gonna win the state 4a championship this year? </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>so scared</b> | 12:56 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Yes BYU and other teams are so afraid to play usu in Logan. Must be because of their big win there over Austin Peay. We're all sitting on the edges of our seats to see how you do against Prairie View. Exciting aggie basketball Zzzzzzzzzzzz.....<br><br>I wonder if being able to sell more tickets by playing at ESA with it 19000+ seats instead of going to the Smith Spectrum in Logan with its 10270 seats has anything to do with choice of venue? </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Cougar Always</b> | 1:09 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Come on Aggies quit acting like Aggiettes. Don't be angry with us just because your one-man show is in for a long year. Stu will bring them back, but I wouldn't bet the farm on this years team. Look at the bright side. You have that great Aggie football program to look forward to next year. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>shane</b> | 1:13 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> how quickly do Y fans forget how AWFUL their basketball team used to be!!!!! Does 1-25 ring a bell? knock our football team or basketball team but at least we have ALWAYS had a higher winning percentabe than .o4!!!! 1-25 that's ridiculous!!! <br><br>Better yet, we may not be the best right now, but at least when we wake up in the morning we're not BYU!!!! <br><br>GO AGGIES!!! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Annonymous</b> | 1:16 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Let's face it. All teams have fans that will whine about everythingthey get a chance to whine about. Personally, I think BYU is a joke as a school, as an athletic organization, as an institution of people. From what I have seen after visiting many college campuses, BYU has more hypocracy than any other school I have visited. Also, as a correctional officer who had worked at the prison in Draper, I saw more BYU alumni behind bars than any other school. A far superior school in all areas? I disagree. Athletes are not held to the same honor code as the other students, many of their academic programs are dropping in national rankings, and the student body leaves much to be desired in all aspects. Concerning the Michigan State/BYU game, who really cares who wins and who loses. It's a fake game, and depending on which refs officiate, we all know it will be a rigged game. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Nutshell</b> | 1:20 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> When BYU has a .500 range season, it's generally viewed as decent. A sub .500 season and the coach needs to get better. When Utah has their first sub .500 season in like 30 years...coach gets the boot.<br><br>There should be no argue that the Utes are THE basketball team in Utah. They have had 2 bad years to UTAH STANDARDS. This team was in the sweet sixteen 2 years ago. If a BYU coach got his team to the sweet sixteen he would be guaranteed a lifetime contract.<br><br>Until either Utah State or BYU start winning tournament games, they have no room to talk. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Never Again</b> | 1:36 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Ya, Y fans aren't perfect. No shocker there. Here's my story. I 'bout got clobbered a few years ago after i listened most of the game to the outta-control screaming jerk in blue next to me. It got old near the end, and told him the Y guy didn't mess up just to ruin HIS game. So he went after ME. Talked him down, but still took the wind outta the ol' Y team spirit a bit, ya think?<br><br>Wouldn't do it again for a six-pack o'root beer, but i sure got sick of sitting by him and listenin' to his belly-aching ALL DARN GAME. But I got a chuckle outta seeing his date leave and never come back. :) Smart girl.<br><br>Don't these folks know they kill the fun for the real fans? </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Remember who was the 1</b> | 1:45 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Shane, remember who was the one win during the 1-25 season? It was USU. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>RE: Shane</b> | 2:35 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I remember reading in ESPN the Magazine a few years ago about that 1-25 season for the Cougs. It was a question-answer bit. The question was, "After a horrible season of going 1-25 what does BYU have to be grateful for?" The answer, "UTAH STATE." </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Say what?!</b> | 2:43 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> RE: Anonymous 1:16 pm:<br><br>You certainly are entitled to your opinions, which appear to be completely unburdened by reality. Yes, the game between two Top 25 teams is a completely fake game, with players who are all on the take, and will probably be officiated by corrupt BYU alums who are on work release from the Utah State Prison. <br><br>But hey, at least the axe you are perpetually grinding should be good and sharp if you ever have to use it. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>RE: Shane</b> | 3:07 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> 3 Points...<br><br>1. C'mon Aggs - isn't there a USU story you can comment on? This one isn't even about you. But then again, I guess it never is...<br><br>2. The only school who should be more embarrassed of the 1-25 season than BYU is USU. How does it feel to be the ONLY team that couldn't beat BYU in their worst season ever?<br><br>3. Finally Aggies, stop inflating your ego. BYU and Utah are RIVALS. USU is just another team that happens to be in the same state. WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR SCHOOL, YOUR ATHLETIC PROGRAM OR YOUR CITY! Beating you (or losing to you, for that matter) does not make or break the Coug's or Ute's season. Neither program (no matter what coach Whit might say) considers scheduling the Aggies a high priority! If a better opportunity comes along, either school will drop you in a heartbeat. A rivalry has to be two-sided and this one is definitely more of a fatal attraction on your side. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>TucsonUte</b> | 3:09 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I think the only things teams fear about playing in the Marriot Center is the poor seating, views and the lack of a caffeinated drink that come with the facility for their fans.<br><br>As a Utah fan, I feel that The Pit, Arena-Auditorium and Spectrum are tougher places to play. <br><br>Even the camera angles are horrible at the MC. I don't know how many games I have watched on TV where you see the shadows of BYU students heads blocking the bottom of the screen.<br><br>I recall watching an NCAA regional game with UCLA vs San Francisco in 1979 at the MC and all the visiting fans did was bemoan the poor sitting (bench seating if I recall from where we watched).<br><br>Doubt there will ever be a NCAA final played there.<br><br>Note to Y fans: You have a nice little team but until you start winning NCAA tourney games on a regular basis.....you can tone down all your smack talk in here. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Dillanmac</b> | 3:19 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> It is so awesome to hear all the Logan fans talking their smack about how their team has historically dominated BYU in basketball. Hey aggs, would you like the series all time? BYU leads it 133-90. Oh, and it's 82-32 in Provo for BYU, and 57-51 in Logan for you aggs. Looks like that not is BYU basketball historically been much better, they win an overwhelmingly larger percentage of their games at home. Go on... let's see what you have to say about that. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Re: Shane</b> | 3:23 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> And the "1" in BYU's 1-25 season came from--who? Thanks, Aggies! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Y inmate</b> | 3:24 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> RE: "Annonymous" Tell you what. You forgive me of my transgressions, and I'll give you free spelling lessons. Guess that's why you're a Corrections Officer, right? </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Whiner FAN</b> | 3:28 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Hey Cougar1-<br>I am tired of people talking about "BYU" fans being whiners. Haven't you been anywhere else in the country? Don't you think LSU fans are "whiners?" Have you been on USC chat rooms? "Whiners." Florida? "WHINERS." Notre Dame? Big time "whiners." Quit thinking that the only fans that exist are BYU fans. Every school has fans just like BYU's. Some good sports, some not. Some whine, some don't. That is why they are "FANanticals." That is why it is so fun. Give it a break. If you don't like it, don't read the posts. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>realist</b> | 3:46 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> College sports is big business. Teams go where they make the most money and places that will advance their program. USU plays a lot of power house programs but only because they want the paycheck. They certainly don't get a home and home arrangement. The USU problem goes way back to when the original WAC was organized. Other schools didn't want 3 schools in Utah so USU got pushed to the sideline. All those years as an independent left them out in the cold. I'm for any home and home arrangement with a real quality athletic program. Even if BYU plays Michigan State in Auburn Hills and the ESA. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>22,700?</b> | 4:08 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> The only reason the Marriott Center holds that much is because half of their seats are bleachers, not size. It is one of the most miserable places to watch a game. It was built as a multi purpose facility to house events such as firesides, graduation, and for 1/3 of the year basketball. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>To TucsonUte</b> | 5:01 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> The reason the NCAA finals will not be in Provo is 1) altitude, and 2) no airport in Provo. There are little or no other reasons. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>To NeverAgain</b> | 5:04 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I wish people would be a little less judgemental. Do you not think there are fans like that in every arena? Get a life! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Anonymous</b> | 5:05 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> It's only our longest rivalry. Utah State vs. BYU. If BYU really didn't want to hurt our "young" team starring Jaycee Carroll in his senior year, they might have resumed the series in its rightful place next year--the Spectrum.<br><br>I'm sorry, but it's blaringly obvious that BYU is just scared that we might ruin their breakout season. They realized they had some okay players that might make any sort of a nice season and decided an automatic loss in Logan was going to ruin their year.<br><br>BYU is chicken. They're just taking a cosy three year vacation from playing in the place that handed them a 91-80 spankeroo two years ago.<br><br>Would playing a young team and winning hurt your season? What are all these weak teams you're demolishing? You know you'd lose Rose. Take it like a man. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Alma the Younger</b> | 7:13 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Aggs- Sorry for any mean remarks, but there were some pretty mean things said about my favorite team the Y. Best of luck to you this season. Every program goes through adversity. Hang in there. You have a very good basketball program. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Why be pretentious?</b> | 7:39 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> There seems to be two things going on here: USU fans thinking they are better than they are, and BYU fans thinking they are much much better than they are. What else can you expect from BYU? As a state school, USU does not have the resources to compete with BYU. The fact that they are competitive at all, particularly considering their success over the past decade, should be impressive. BYU's rival (singular) is the U of U, but BYU v USU is tradition (a Bronco buzz word). BYU should not be high and mighty regarding the Aggies. USU was hosed by BYU in scheduling this year. A neutral site game will eventually be good, but BYU wanted to replace a game to be played in Logan this year with a neutral site game. It had nothing to do with anyone being scared to play anywhere, it had EVERYTHING to do with money, and USU stood to lose more. BYU would have handled USU this year, hopefully the Aggies can turn things around and finish this year strong so the game at ESA next year will be good. BYU fans should read President Benson's "Beware of Pride". </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>One way street?</b> | 8:05 p.m. Dec. 7, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> What is interesting to me is that the same logic used by BYU fans to call USU a "little brother" is used by bigger schools to call BYU "inferior" and "irrelevant." USU is overachieving considering what it has to work with (basketball is competitive and football really should be FCS-formerly I-AA). The fact is that MOST sports fans around the nation view USU and BYU as being on the same level. That must be really disheartening to BYU fans and what is leading to the animosity and resentment. BYU fans would do well to check themselves before they act haughty...you may be labeled as hypocrites. I hear the same sort of complaints originating from Provo that I do from Logan, but I don't see USU looking down on other teams. They are scheduling UVSC..I mean UVU..regularly. USU fans need to realize that USU is what it is, and BYU fans need to reexamine their postion and act accordingly. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>To Cougar 1</b> | 9:31 a.m. Dec. 8, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> You are what makes BYU athletics crap! BYU may have the better team, but Utah has the better fans! Why? Because of people like you! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>re: PP</b> | 9:36 a.m. Dec. 8, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> you are wrong about the RM status of the current BYU QB. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Mike</b> | 11:01 a.m. Dec. 8, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> "MOST sports fans around the nation view USU and BYU as being on the same level."<br><br>You need to get out of little Cache Valley. Living in Texas for the past 37 years, I know of NO ONE who even knows usu exists.<br><br>And usu is a better school. Unbelievable! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Nutshell?</b> | 11:40 a.m. Dec. 8, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> No, your name should be Nutcase. When has utah been to the Big Dance lately? I think if you even bother to check your team's record you'll notice they've had 2 losing season in a row and haven't done any post-season dancing lately.<br><br>Next time you're gonna tell people they don't have room to talk remember to stand in front of the mirror and point at the person you see there and then say that. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Wildcat</b> | 1:06 p.m. Dec. 8, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Bottom line is that NONE of the programs in Utah - Utah, BYU or Utah State are relevant.<br><br>Ask anyone that knows anything about basketball and they will tell you the same.<br><br>Continue to live in your own little world and pretend that you matter. But the fact remains that all three programs have nothing to offer - but their little whiney fans.<br><br>WAh!!!!! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Nathaniel</b> | 1:07 p.m. Dec. 8, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I don't know why no one has mentioned this: This game counts as a neutral game for RPI (Ratings Percentage Index), which the NCAA basketball committee takes heavily into account when it selects who gets into the tournament. So when MSU played BYU on a "neutral court" last year at Auburn Hills, the victory helped their RPI more than if it had been a home game. MSU returned the favor by scheduling another "neutral court" game in Salt Lake City. It has nothing to do with one program being afraid of playing another program on their home court. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>re: wildcat</b> | 5:11 p.m. Dec. 8, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> utah is the 9th winningest program in ncaa history </div> </div> <div id="commentForm"> <div class="label"> <h3>Add your comment</h3> <p class="infoText"> <b>Comments are monitored</b>. Any comments found to be abusive, offensive, off-topic, misrepresentative, more than 200 words or containing URLs will not be posted. </p> <div id="formCounter"> Words Remaining<input type="text" size="3" id="wordCounter" value="200"/> </div> </div> <form method="post" action="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/save/1,5237,,00.html"> <input type="text" name="name" style="display:none;"/> <input type="text" name="ns_fld1" size="24" maxlength="32" value="Enter name" onfocus="if (this.value == 'Enter name') { this.value = ''; }" onblur="if (this.value == '') { this.value = 'Enter name'; }"/> <input type="text" name="comments" style="display:none;"/> <textarea name="ns_fld2" id="ns_fld2" rows="10" cols="48" wrap="soft" onfocus="if (this.value == 'Enter comment') { this.value = ''; }" onblur="if (this.value == '') { this.value = 'Enter comment'; }" onkeydown="checkWordLen(this,200);">Enter comment</textarea> <input type="text" name="email" style="display:none;"/> <input type="text" name="ns_fld3" size="36" maxlength="128" value="E-mail address (optional)" onfocus="if (this.value == 'E-mail address (optional)') { this.value = ''; }" onblur="if (this.value == '') { this.value = 'E-mail address (optional)'; }"/> <div class="button"> <input type="button" value="Add your comment" onclick="submitform(this,'ns_fld2',200);"> </div> <p class="infoText"> <b>E-mail address</b>: For internal use only. We may want to contact you to publish your comment (not your e-mail address) in the newspaper or for a separate story idea. </p> <input type="hidden" name="commentStoryId" value="695233921"></form></div> </div> </div> <div id="feature_col" class="column"> <div id="most_popular"> <ul id="most_popular_tabs" class="most_popular"> <li id="tab_most_popular"><a onclick="swapTabs('most_popular'); linkTrack('popular/tabs/most popular');">Most Popular</a></li> <li id="tab_most_commented"><a onclick="swapTabs('most_commented'); linkTrack('popular/tabs/most commented');">Most Commented</a></li> </ul>  <ol id="most_popular_list"> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234224,00.html">Could coach shuffle involve BYU?</a> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233596,00.html">Elder Ballard responds to evangelical criticism</a> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234115,00.html">Theologian-in-chief? Romney's speech spurs questions about faith</a> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234428,00.html">AP Poll: Huckabee rises to 2nd in national GOP race</a> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233910,00.html">Theology: LDS god is in harmony with the Bible</a> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234570,00.html">Cougars crumble  Prolonged scoring droughts hamper Cougars' upset bid</a> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234456,00.html">Huckabee vaults to 2nd in GOP race</a> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234467,00.html">Despite career night for Deron Williams, Mavericks still able to top Jazz</a> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234573,00.html">Jazz 'D' falls flat in Big D</a> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234460,00.html">Storm targets Salt Lake County</a> </li> </ol>  <ol id="most_commented_list" class="off"> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233346,00.html">Tough question for BYU: BCS teams or cream puffs?</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695233346,00.html">242</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233910,00.html">Theology: LDS god is in harmony with the Bible</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695233910,00.html">211</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233771,00.html">Romney: No candidate should be rejected because of his faith</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695233771,00.html">206</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233362,00.html">Edited-films stores in Utah County closing</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695233362,00.html">135</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233596,00.html">Elder Ballard responds to evangelical criticism</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695233596,00.html">124</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233957,00.html">Adoption turns into nightmare</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695233957,00.html">119</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233936,00.html">Romney's speech champions 'Symphony of faith'</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695233936,00.html">104</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233617,00.html">BYU recruiting solid under Mendenhall</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695233617,00.html">96</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233921,00.html">Teams may fear playing Y. in Provo</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695233921,00.html">85</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233368,00.html">Honor roll  Unga named MWC's top freshman</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695233368,00.html">52</a></span> </li> <li class="infoText">(Stories published in the last five days with the most comments)</li> </ol> </div> <div id="other_section_heads"> <ul id="other_section_tabs"> <li class="selected"><a href="#" rel="byu_stories">BYU</a></li> <li><a href="#" rel="jaz_stories">Jazz</a></li> <li><a href="#" rel="rsl_stories">Real SL</a></li> <li><a href="#" rel="ute_stories">Utes</a></li> </ul>  <div id="byu_stories" class="more_heads_content"> <ul> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234570,00.html">Cougars crumble  Prolonged scoring droughts hamper Cougars' upset bid</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234570,00.html">2</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234524,00.html">Lions put end to BYU volleyball season</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234524,00.html">0</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234596,00.html">Brad Rock: Cougs don't get no satisfaction</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234596,00.html">0</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234523,00.html">Basketball: Cougar women pound UVSC</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234523,00.html">0</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234545,00.html">Basketball: Wasted chances, mistakes haunt Wolverines</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234545,00.html">0</a></span> </li> </ul> </div>  <div id="jaz_stories" class="more_heads_content"> <ul> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234573,00.html">Jazz 'D' falls flat in Big D</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234573,00.html">0</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234591,00.html">Jazz notes: Opinions vary on when to foul</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234591,00.html">0</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234566,00.html">D-Fenders land latest blow in series with Flash</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234566,00.html">0</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234594,00.html">Jazz game at a glance</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234594,00.html">0</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234467,00.html">Despite career night for Deron Williams, Mavericks still able to top Jazz</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234467,00.html">4</a></span> </li> </ul> </div>  <div id="rsl_stories" class="more_heads_content"> <ul> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695229819,00.html">Sports briefs</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695229819,00.html">0</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695229528,00.html">MLS expansion draft set</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695229528,00.html">8</a></span> </li> </ul> </div>  <div id="ute_stories" class="more_heads_content"> <ul> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234550,00.html">Oregon holds off U. down stretch</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234550,00.html">0</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234485,00.html">Playing tough defense in bowls has become a tradition for Utes</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234485,00.html">0</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234486,00.html">Utah's Sakoda named to All-America teams</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234486,00.html">0</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234572,00.html">Basketball: Utah's Mitchell leads way to win over Gophers</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234572,00.html">0</a></span> </li> <li> <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695234569,00.html">Michigan St. still fond of U. coach Boylen</a> <span class="commentNum"><img src="/web/20071209120947im_/http://deseretnews.com/i/bubble6.gif" class="commentBubble" alt=""/><a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/comments/1,5150,695234569,00.html">0</a></span> </li> </ul> </div> </div> <script type="text/javascript"> initializetabcontent("other_section_tabs"); </script> </div> <div id="nav_col" class="column"> <ul id="leftnav"> <li><a id="leftnav_columnists" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/columnists/1,5230,,00.html">Columnists</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_contests" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/contest/1,5217,,00.html">Contests</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_dailyindex" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/daily/1,5296,,00.html">Daily Index</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_education" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/education/1,5164,,00.html">Education</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_family" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/family-life/1,5165,,00.html">Family & Life</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_food" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/food-dining/1,5166,,00.html">Food & Dining</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_health" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/health-fitness/1,5167,,00.html">Health & Fitness</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_help_line" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/user/helpline/1,5215,,00.html">Help Line</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_home" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/home-garden/1,5168,,00.html">Home & Garden</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_lds" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/http://www.desnews.com/cn/1,3585,,00.html">LDS Church News</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_births" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/births/1,5205,,00.html">Local Births</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_reunions" target="blank" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/reunions/1,2498,,00.html">Mission Reunions</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_mobile" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/mobile/1,5226,,00.html">Mobile</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_politics" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/politics/1,5229,,00.html">Politics</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_religion" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/religion/1,5169,,00.html">Religion & Ethics</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_science" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/science-tech/1,5170,,00.html">Science & Tech</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_travel" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/travel/1,5171,,00.html">Travel & Outdoors</a></li> <li><a id="leftnav_video" href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/video/1,5309,,00.html">Video</a></li> </ul> <div id="adTopJobsSp" class="ad"></div> </div> <div id="ad_col" class="column"> <div id="ad8Sp" class="ad"></div> <div id="ad9Sp" class="ad"></div> <div id="ad10Sp" class="ad"></div> <div id="ad11Sp" class="ad"></div> <div id="ad13Sp" class="ad"></div> <div id="ad14Sp" class="ad"></div> <div id="ad3Sp" class="ad"></div> <div id="ad4Sp" class="ad"></div> <div id="ad5Sp" class="ad"></div> </div> <div id="footer"> <div id="footer-nav"> deseretnews.com: <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/home/1,5125,,00.html">Home</a> | <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/https://www.nacorp.com/nac2/sub/sub_info.html">Subscription services</a> | <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/site/contact/1,5188,,00.html">Contact us</a> | <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/site/faq/1,5187,,00.html">FAQ</a> | <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/site/feedback/1,5189,,00.html">Feedback</a> | <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/site/jobs/1,5186,,00.html">Jobs</a> | <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/photo/purchase/1,5185,,00.html">Purchase photos</a> | <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/site/rss/1,5184,,00.html">RSS</a> | <a href="/web/20071209120947/http://deseretnews.com/site/privacy/1,5183,,00.html">Privacy policy</a> </div><div id="footer_ad"></div> </div> </div> </div>  <script type="text/javascript" src="/web/20071209120947js_/http://deseretnews.com/js/s_code_H10.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript"></script> <script type="text/javascript"></script><noscript><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/http://www.omniture.com/" title="Web Analytics"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947im_/http://mngidmn.112.2o7.net/b/ss/mngidmn/1/H.10--NS/0" height="1" width="1" border="0" alt=""/></a></noscript>  <div id="adLoad"> <script type="text/javascript"> var AAMB1 = ''; var AAMB2 = ''; var AAMB3 = ''; var AAMB4 = ''; var AAMB5 = ''; var AAMB6 = ''; var AAMB8 = ''; var AAMB9 = ''; var AAMB10 = ''; var AAMB11 = ''; var AAMB13 = ''; var AAMB14 = ''; var aamRnd = Math.round(Math.random() * 100000000); adserver = 'https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947/http://63.225.61.9/bserver'; allAdTags = '/AAMALL/acc_random=' + aamRnd + '/pageid=' + aamRnd; </script> <script type="text/javascript">  </script> <div id="ad8H"><script type="text/javascript">document.writeln(AAMB8);</script></div> <div id="ad9H"><script type="text/javascript">document.writeln(AAMB9);</script></div> <div id="ad10H"><script type="text/javascript">document.writeln(AAMB10);</script></div> <div id="ad11H"><script type="text/javascript">document.writeln(AAMB11);</script></div> <div id="ad13H"><script type="text/javascript">document.writeln(AAMB13);</script></div> <div id="ad14H"><script type="text/javascript">document.writeln(AAMB14);</script></div> <div id="ad3H"><script type="text/javascript">document.writeln(AAMB3);</script></div> <div id="ad5H"><script type="text/javascript">document.writeln(AAMB5);</script></div> <div id="ad4H"><script type="text/javascript">document.writeln(AAMB4);</script></div> <div id="ad6H"><script type="text/javascript">document.writeln(AAMB6);</script></div> <div id="ad2H"><script type="text/javascript">document.writeln(AAMB2);</script></div> <div id="adTopJobsH"><script type="text/javascript" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20071209120947js_/http://63.225.61.4:8080/ads/new_tj/tjdmn.js"></script></div> <script type="text/javascript">  </script> </div> </body> </html>

CINXE.COM

Deseret Morning News | Reader comments: Teams may fear playing Y. in Provo