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As you may have noticed the change concerned some of the<br />> Ru-related developers removal from the list of the official kernel maintainers,<br />> including me.<br />><br />> The community members rightly noted that the _quite_ short commit log contained<br />> very vague terms with no explicit change justification. No matter how hard I<br />> tried to get more details about the reason, alas the senior maintainer I was<br />> discussing the matter with haven't given an explanation to what compliance<br />> requirements that was. I won't cite the exact emails text since it was a private<br />> messaging, but the key words are "sanctions", "sorry", "nothing I can do", "talk<br />> to your (company) lawyer"... I can't say for all the guys affected by the<br />> change, but my work for the community has been purely _volunteer_ for more than<br />> a year now (and less than half of it had been payable before that). For that<br />> reason I have no any (company) lawyer to talk to, and honestly after the way the<br />> patch has been merged in I don't really want to now. Silently, behind everyone's<br />> back, _bypassing_ the standard patch-review process, with no affected<br />> developers/subsystem notified - it's indeed the worse way to do what has been<br />> done. No gratitude, no credits to the developers for all these years of the<br />> devoted work for the community. No matter the reason of the situation but<br />> haven't we deserved more than that? Adding to the GREDITS file at least, no?..<br />><br />> I can't believe the kernel senior maintainers didn't consider that the <br />> patch<br />> wouldn't go unnoticed, and the situation might get out of control with<br />> unpredictable results for the community, if not straight away then in <br />> the middle<br />> or long term perspective. I am sure there have been plenty ways to <br />> solve the<br />> problem less harmfully, but they decided to take the easiest path. Alas <br />> what's<br />> done is done. A bifurcation point slightly initiated a year ago has <br />> just been<br />> fully implemented. The reason of the situation is obviously in the <br />> political<br />> ground which in this case surely shatters a basement the community has <br />> been built<br />> on in the first place. If so then God knows what might be next (who <br />> else might<br />> be sanctioned...), but the implemented move clearly sends a bad signal <br />> to the<br />> Linux community new comers, to the already working volunteers and <br />> hobbyists like<br />> me.<br /><br />Hi Serge,<br /><br />I was shocked by the way senior maintainers handle that patch when people put it<br />under my radar. Then I scroll down it and see all those familiar names including<br />Sergey Shtylyov and you...<br /><br />This is certainly not the way things should be done. Even if legal requirements<br />necessitate the action, there are far better ways to handle it. Instead, the most<br />absurd and shameful option has been chosen.<br /><br />It's deeply disappointing to me that, when doubts were raised about the process,<br />Linus resorted to personal attacks rather than addressing our concerns. As a hobbyist<br />driven by the ideals of free software, with Linus as a role model, I now find myself<br />questioning my own beliefs.<br /><br />Where are we going? Where should we go?<br /><br />><br />[...]<br />><br />> Paul, Thomas, Arnd, Jiaxun, we met several times in the mailing list during my<br />> MIPS P5600 patches and just generic MIPS patches review. It was always a<br />> pleasure to discuss the matters with such brilliant experts in the field. Alas<br />> I've spent too much time working on the patches for another subsystems and<br />> failed to submit all the MIPS-related bits. Sorry I didn't keep my promise, but<br />> as you can see the circumstances have suddenly drawn its own deadline.<br /><br />Thank you, Serge. It's always a pleasure working with you. Your professionalism has<br />been truly impressive, and our discussions were consistently constructive. I<br />especially appreciate how your bug reports and review comments are always backed by<br />detailed reasoning, it really stood out to me.<br /><br />You'll be missed. I'll see what I can do here for your work on MIPS.<br /><br />><br />[...]<br />><br />> Hope we'll meet someday in more pleasant circumstances and drink a<br />> couple or more beers together. But now it's time to say good bye.<br />> Sorry for a long-read text. I wish good luck on your Linux-way.<br /><br />I'm happy to have a pint with you if we can meet someday.<br /><br />For now, take care.<br /><br />Thanks<br />><br />> Best Regards,<br />> -Serge(y)<br /><br />-- <br />- Jiaxun<br /><br /></pre></td><td width="32" rowspan="2" class="c" valign="top"><img src="/images/icornerr.gif" width="32" height="32" alt="\" /></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="bottom"> </td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="bottom"> </td><td class="c" valign="bottom" style="padding-bottom: 0px"><img src="/images/bcornerl.gif" width="32" height="32" alt="\" /></td><td class="c"> </td><td class="c" valign="bottom" style="padding-bottom: 0px"><img src="/images/bcornerr.gif" width="32" height="32" alt="/" /></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top" colspan="2"> </td><td class="lm">Last update: 2024-10-24 13:03 [from the cache]<br />©2003-2020 <a href="http://blog.jasper.es/"><span itemprop="editor">Jasper Spaans</span></a>|hosted at <a href="https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=9a8e99d24cf9">Digital Ocean</a> and my Meterkast|<a href="http://blog.jasper.es/categories.html#lkml-ref">Read the blog</a></td><td> </td></tr></table><script language="javascript" src="/js/styleswitcher.js" type="text/javascript"></script></body></html>