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The cited source says, {{tq|The site is believed to have had its pri[n]cipal occupation between AD 1250 and 1550.}}[https://web.archive.org/web/20090301034212/http://tps.cr.nps.gov/nhl/detail.cfm?ResourceId=1420&amp;ResourceType=Site] That became {{tq|The site was occupied between 1250 and 1550, ...}} in the [[Bottle Creek Indian Mounds]] article. And today the article was moved from [[:Category:Populated places established in the 13th century]] to [[:Category:Populated places established in 1250]] and from [[:Category:Populated places disestablished in the 16th century]] to [[:Category:Populated places disestablished in 1550]], which I believe is much too specific for dating an archaeological site. I have reverted those changes, and also removed the existing [[:Category:1250 establishments]] and [[:Category:1550 disestablishments]]. I understand that editors in good faith see dates in an article and want to brings categories into line with those dates, but that can be a problem if they do not understand that dates for archaeological sites are almost always approximate and often very broad estimates. I realize this is not one of the big problems in WP, but, as I said, it annoyed me, so I wanted to vent. [[User talk:Donald Albury|Donald Albury]] 16:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>Ran across something today that annoyed me. The cited source says, {{tq|The site is believed to have had its pri[n]cipal occupation between AD 1250 and 1550.}}[https://web.archive.org/web/20090301034212/http://tps.cr.nps.gov/nhl/detail.cfm?ResourceId=1420&amp;ResourceType=Site] That became {{tq|The site was occupied between 1250 and 1550, ...}} in the [[Bottle Creek Indian Mounds]] article. And today the article was moved from [[:Category:Populated places established in the 13th century]] to [[:Category:Populated places established in 1250]] and from [[:Category:Populated places disestablished in the 16th century]] to [[:Category:Populated places disestablished in 1550]], which I believe is much too specific for dating an archaeological site. I have reverted those changes, and also removed the existing [[:Category:1250 establishments]] and [[:Category:1550 disestablishments]]. I understand that editors in good faith see dates in an article and want to brings categories into line with those dates, but that can be a problem if they do not understand that dates for archaeological sites are almost always approximate and often very broad estimates. I realize this is not one of the big problems in WP, but, as I said, it annoyed me, so I wanted to vent. [[User talk:Donald Albury|Donald Albury]] 16:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>Could somebody look at [[Bottle Creek Indian Mounds]] and offer an opinion on the dates of establishment and disestablishment for the site? - [[User talk:Donald Albury|Donald Albury]] 00:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><br /></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>== "Inscriptions and Herostones" articles ==</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>== "Inscriptions and Herostones" articles ==</div></td> </tr> <!-- diff cache key enwiki:diff:1.41:old-1259750639:rev-1259783305:wikidiff2=table:1.14.1:ff290eae --> </table><hr class='diff-hr' id='mw-oldid' /> <h2 class='diff-currentversion-title'>Revision as of 00:58, 27 November 2024</h2> <div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><table role="presentation" style="width: 100%; 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cs1">Rebecca Onion (November 18, 2022). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://slate.com/culture/2022/11/ancient-apocalypse-graham-hancock-netflix-theory-explained.html">"The Ancient Absurdities of Ancient Apocalypse"</a>. <a href="/wiki/Slate_(magazine)" title="Slate (magazine)">Slate (magazine)</a><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">April 5,</span> 2023</span>. <q>Oddly enough—and I know journalists might bristle at what I say—Wikipedia is the very best source. It's maintained by nerds, and archaeology Wikipedia is maintained by archaeology nerds, and the articles on it are good! I have a feeling they'll get even better because of <a href="/wiki/Ancient_Apocalypse" title="Ancient Apocalypse">this series</a>, because people will want to make sure the information is in there for viewers who may be Googling it.</q></cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&amp;rft.genre=article&amp;rft.atitle=The+Ancient+Absurdities+of+Ancient+Apocalypse&amp;rft.date=2022-11-18&amp;rft.au=Rebecca+Onion&amp;rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fslate.com%2Fculture%2F2022%2F11%2Fancient-apocalypse-graham-hancock-netflix-theory-explained.html&amp;rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AWikipedia+talk%3AWikiProject+Archaeology" class="Z3988"></span></li></ul> </div></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Saltovo-Mayaki" data-mw-thread-id="h-Saltovo-Mayaki"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Saltovo-Mayaki"></span>Saltovo-Mayaki<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Saltovo-Mayaki"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Saltovo-Mayaki","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>u7a4 did not found in Belgorod Oblast like the editor is saying. <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltovo-Mayaki">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltovo-Mayaki</a> </p><p><i>A genetic study published in Nature in May 2018 examined three males of the Saltovo-Mayaki culture buried in Belgorod Oblast, Russia between ca. 700 AD and 900 AD.[3] The sample of Y-DNA extracted belonged to haplogroup R1.[4] The three samples of mtDNA extracted belonged to the haplogroups I, J1b4 and #Haplogroup U7|U7a4.[5]</i> </p><p>The mtDNA that have been extracted from Belgorod Oblast belonged to haplogroups I (i4a) and D4m2 and not U7'U7a4. </p><p>Haplogroup mtDNA U5 been found among Saltovo-Mayaki but not in Belgorod Oblast. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Joe_Roe-20240725161500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force-20240725161500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Joe_Roe-20240725161500-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force&quot;,&quot;c-Lajmmoore-20240906203600-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Update on the women in archaeology task force&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Update on the women in archaeology task force&quot;}--><h2 id="Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force" data-mw-thread-id="h-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force-20240725161500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force-20240725161500"></span>Update on the women in archaeology task force<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force-20240725161500"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Joe_Roe-20240725161500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force-20240725161500","replies":["c-Joe_Roe-20240725161500-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force","c-Lajmmoore-20240906203600-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Lajmmoore-20240906203600-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force","timestamp":"20240906203600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__8__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Joe_Roe-20240725161500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force-20240725161500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Joe_Roe-20240725161500-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force&quot;,&quot;c-Lajmmoore-20240906203600-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Update on the women in archaeology task force&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Update on the women in archaeology task force&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joe_Roe-20240725161500-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force"></span>Hello everybody. Remember WP:ARCHAEO's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Archaeology/Women_in_archaeology_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Archaeology/Women in archaeology task force">women in archaeology task force</a>, created <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology/Archive_8#Women_in_archaeology_task_force" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Archaeology/Archive 8">in 2016</a>? To my shame I've not been very good at keeping the project pages updated or highlighting progress, but nevertheless slow and steady progress has been made! Over the last eight years, task force participants have: </p> <ul><li>Created <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Archaeology/Women_in_archaeology_task_force#Redlist" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Archaeology/Women in archaeology task force"><s>164</s> 174 new articles</a> on women in archaeology</li> <li>Reduced the number of red links on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Archaeologists" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Archaeologists">WikiProject Women in Red Archaeology Redlist</a> from 106 to 25</li> <li>Tagged and assessed all <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Archaeology/Women_in_archaeology_task_force#Quality" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Archaeology/Women in archaeology task force">1117 articles in the project's scope</a></li> <li>Collaborated on the overview article <a href="/wiki/Women_in_archaeology" title="Women in archaeology">women in archaeology</a></li> <li>Brought nine articles up to good article status <a href="/wiki/Anna_Apostolaki" title="Anna Apostolaki">Anna Apostolaki</a>, <a href="/wiki/Elizabeth_Pierce_Blegen" title="Elizabeth Pierce Blegen">Elizabeth Pierce Blegen</a>, <a href="/wiki/Marguerite_Gautier-van_Berchem" title="Marguerite Gautier-van Berchem">Marguerite Gautier-van Berchem</a>, <a href="/wiki/Jacquetta_Hawkes" title="Jacquetta Hawkes">Jacquetta Hawkes</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sonia_Chadwick_Hawkes" title="Sonia Chadwick Hawkes">Sonia Chadwick Hawkes</a>, <a href="/wiki/Semni_Karouzou" title="Semni Karouzou">Semni Karouzou</a>, <a href="/wiki/Margaret_Ursula_Jones" title="Margaret Ursula Jones">Margaret Ursula Jones</a>, <a href="/wiki/Winifred_Lamb" title="Winifred Lamb">Winifred Lamb</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Lamia_Al-Gailani_Werr" title="Lamia Al-Gailani Werr">Lamia Al-Gailani Werr</a></li> <li>Highlighted <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Archaeology/Women_in_archaeology_task_force#Did_you_know?_articles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Archaeology/Women in archaeology task force">multiple articles</a> on the main page's <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DYK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DYK">Did you know?</a></i> section</li></ul> <p>This means that we are very close to completing two major milestones: </p> <ol><li>76.4% of the red links on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Archaeologists" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Archaeologists">WikiProject Women in Red Archaeology Redlist</a> have been turned blue – only 25 remain</li> <li>86.1% of articles in the project's scope have been raised above stub class – <a href="/wiki/Category:Stub-Class_women_in_archaeology_articles" title="Category:Stub-Class women in archaeology articles">only 157</a> remain</li></ol> <p>This has me thinking that with a concerted effort we stand a very good chance of clearing the remaining red links and stub articles by the end of the year. If anybody is interested in helping out? <small>Pinging task force participants: <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Ninafundisha" title="User:Ninafundisha">Ninafundisha</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:MauraWen" title="User:MauraWen">MauraWen</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Zakhx150" title="User:Zakhx150">Zakhx150</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:SusunW" title="User:SusunW">SusunW</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:PatHadley" title="User:PatHadley">PatHadley</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Richard_Nevell" title="User:Richard Nevell">Richard Nevell</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Lajmmoore" title="User:Lajmmoore">Lajmmoore</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Mehmuffin" title="User:Mehmuffin">Mehmuffin</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Archeofemme" title="User:Archeofemme">Archeofemme</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Matildas2021" title="User:Matildas2021">Matildas2021</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Ozrock21" title="User:Ozrock21">Ozrock21</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Schmindia" title="User:Schmindia">Schmindia</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Eritha" title="User:Eritha">Eritha</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Clmorgan" title="User:Clmorgan">Clmorgan</a>, and <a href="/wiki/User:Ittybittykittycommittee" title="User:Ittybittykittycommittee">Ittybittykittycommittee</a>:</span></small> – <a href="/wiki/User:Joe_Roe" title="User:Joe Roe">Joe</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Roe" title="User talk:Joe Roe">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Joe_Roe-20240725161500-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 25 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joe_Roe-20240725161500-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240725161500","author":"Joe Roe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Joe_Roe-20240725161500-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force","replies":["c-Lajmmoore-20240725174200-Joe_Roe-20240725161500","c-Richard_Nevell-20240725182900-Joe_Roe-20240725161500","c-Zakhx150-20240726123900-Joe_Roe-20240725161500"],"displayName":"Joe"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joe_Roe-20240725161500-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lajmmoore-20240725174200-Joe_Roe-20240725161500"></span>This is so awesome, thanks for pulling this together <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Joe_Roe" title="User:Joe Roe">Joe Roe</a>:</span> - I added 10 more biographies I've started so we're at 174 now (I totally forgot about adding them here, my bad). If others thought it useful, I could propose to the wider group of Women in Red that we do archaeology as a theme later in the year? Or we might want to plug away ourselves? I am happy either way! <a href="/wiki/User:Lajmmoore" title="User:Lajmmoore">Lajmmoore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lajmmoore" title="User talk:Lajmmoore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Lajmmoore-20240725174200-Joe_Roe-20240725161500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 25 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lajmmoore-20240725174200-Joe_Roe-20240725161500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240725174200","author":"Lajmmoore","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lajmmoore-20240725174200-Joe_Roe-20240725161500","replies":["c-Joe_Roe-20240725200100-Lajmmoore-20240725174200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lajmmoore-20240725174200-Joe_Roe-20240725161500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joe_Roe-20240725200100-Lajmmoore-20240725174200"></span>That's a great idea. We did it 2016 and it worked well, and I'd say enough time as passed that we might be able to get on the rotation again! – <a href="/wiki/User:Joe_Roe" title="User:Joe Roe">Joe</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Roe" title="User talk:Joe Roe">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Joe_Roe-20240725200100-Lajmmoore-20240725174200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 25 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joe_Roe-20240725200100-Lajmmoore-20240725174200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240725200100","author":"Joe Roe","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Joe_Roe-20240725200100-Lajmmoore-20240725174200","replies":[],"displayName":"Joe"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joe_Roe-20240725200100-Lajmmoore-20240725174200"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Richard_Nevell-20240725182900-Joe_Roe-20240725161500"></span>It's good to see the progress, and helpful reminder as I've just spotted that I haven't contributed to this area since the start of last year! <a href="/wiki/User:Richard_Nevell" title="User:Richard Nevell">Richard Nevell</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Richard_Nevell" title="User talk:Richard Nevell">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Richard_Nevell-20240725182900-Joe_Roe-20240725161500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 25 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Richard_Nevell-20240725182900-Joe_Roe-20240725161500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240725182900","author":"Richard Nevell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Richard_Nevell-20240725182900-Joe_Roe-20240725161500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Richard_Nevell-20240725182900-Joe_Roe-20240725161500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zakhx150-20240726123900-Joe_Roe-20240725161500"></span>Yes, nice reminder for a push. Calling dibs on <b>Betty Baume Clark</b> unless anyone wants to tell me they've drafted it? <a href="/wiki/User:Zakhx150" title="User:Zakhx150">Zakhx150</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zakhx150" title="User talk:Zakhx150">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Zakhx150-20240726123900-Joe_Roe-20240725161500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zakhx150-20240726123900-Joe_Roe-20240725161500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240726123900","author":"Zakhx150","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Zakhx150-20240726123900-Joe_Roe-20240725161500","replies":["c-Lajmmoore-20240726194200-Zakhx150-20240726123900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zakhx150-20240726123900-Joe_Roe-20240725161500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lajmmoore-20240726194200-Zakhx150-20240726123900"></span>Crack on @<a href="/wiki/User:Zakhx150" title="User:Zakhx150">Zakhx150</a> - I dropped a note about editing with Women in Red's wider community <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Women_in_Red#Suggestion_for_October_-_archaeologists?" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red">here</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Lajmmoore" title="User:Lajmmoore">Lajmmoore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lajmmoore" title="User talk:Lajmmoore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Lajmmoore-20240726194200-Zakhx150-20240726123900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lajmmoore-20240726194200-Zakhx150-20240726123900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240726194200","author":"Lajmmoore","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lajmmoore-20240726194200-Zakhx150-20240726123900","replies":["c-Zakhx150-20240906123300-Lajmmoore-20240726194200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lajmmoore-20240726194200-Zakhx150-20240726123900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zakhx150-20240906123300-Lajmmoore-20240726194200"></span>I did the thing, huzzah: <a href="/wiki/Betty_Baume_Clark" title="Betty Baume Clark">Betty Baume Clark</a>. Will try for another.<a href="/wiki/User:Zakhx150" title="User:Zakhx150">Zakhx150</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zakhx150" title="User talk:Zakhx150">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Zakhx150-20240906123300-Lajmmoore-20240726194200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zakhx150-20240906123300-Lajmmoore-20240726194200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240906123300","author":"Zakhx150","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Zakhx150-20240906123300-Lajmmoore-20240726194200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zakhx150-20240906123300-Lajmmoore-20240726194200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lajmmoore-20240906203600-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force"></span> Just to confirm that Women in Red has supporting this effort on their October event listing <a href="/wiki/User:Lajmmoore" title="User:Lajmmoore">Lajmmoore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lajmmoore" title="User talk:Lajmmoore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Lajmmoore-20240906203600-Update_on_the_women_in_archaeology_task_force" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Doug_Weller-20240804133500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-This_may_be_a_problem:_\&quot;On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu-20240804133500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Doug_Weller-20240804133500-This_may_be_a_problem:_\&quot;On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;This may be a problem: \&quot;On the possible use of hydraulic force to assist with building the Step Pyramid of Saqqara\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;This may be a problem: \&quot;On the possible use of hydraulic force to assist with building the Step Pyramid of Saqqara\&quot;&quot;}--><h2 id="This_may_be_a_problem:_&quot;On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_building_the_Step_Pyramid_of_Saqqara&quot;" data-mw-thread-id="h-This_may_be_a_problem:_&quot;On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu-20240804133500"><span id="This_may_be_a_problem:_.22On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_building_the_Step_Pyramid_of_Saqqara.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-This_may_be_a_problem:_&quot;On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu-20240804133500"></span>This may be a problem: "On the possible use of hydraulic force to assist with building the Step Pyramid of Saqqara"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-This_may_be_a_problem:_&quot;On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu-20240804133500"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Doug_Weller-20240804133500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-This_may_be_a_problem:_\"On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu-20240804133500","replies":["c-Doug_Weller-20240804133500-This_may_be_a_problem:_\"On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-98.97.57.29-20240930091000-Donald_Albury-20240807153000","timestamp":"20240930091000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Doug_Weller-20240804133500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-This_may_be_a_problem:_\&quot;On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu-20240804133500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Doug_Weller-20240804133500-This_may_be_a_problem:_\&quot;On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;This may be a problem: \&quot;On the possible use of hydraulic force to assist with building the Step Pyramid of Saqqara\&quot;&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;This may be a problem: \&quot;On the possible use of hydraulic force to assist with building the Step Pyramid of Saqqara\&quot;&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20240804133500-This_may_be_a_problem:_&quot;On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu"></span>See <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/382523656_On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_building_the_Step_Pyramid_of_Saqqara">[1]</a> Also [On the possible use of hydraulic force to assist with building the Step Pyramid of Saqqara]. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Doug_Weller-20240804133500-This_may_be_a_problem:_&quot;On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20240804133500-This_may_be_a_problem:_&quot;On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240804133500","author":"Doug Weller","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doug_Weller-20240804133500-This_may_be_a_problem:_\"On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu","replies":["c-Donald_Albury-20240804145300-Doug_Weller-20240804133500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20240804133500-This_may_be_a_problem:_&quot;On_the_possible_use_of_hydraulic_force_to_assist_with_bu"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Donald_Albury-20240804145300-Doug_Weller-20240804133500"></span>I'm a bit puzzled by that disclaimer from the PLOS ONE editorial board. In the "interests of transparency" they've published a paper they still have questions about. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Donald_Albury" title="User talk:Donald Albury">Donald Albury</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Donald_Albury-20240804145300-Doug_Weller-20240804133500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:53, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Donald_Albury-20240804145300-Doug_Weller-20240804133500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240804145300","author":"Donald Albury","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Donald_Albury-20240804145300-Doug_Weller-20240804133500","replies":["c-Doug_Weller-20240807141800-Donald_Albury-20240804145300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Donald_Albury-20240804145300-Doug_Weller-20240804133500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20240807141800-Donald_Albury-20240804145300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Donald_Albury" title="User:Donald Albury">Donald Albury</a> Good catch, missed that. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Doug_Weller-20240807141800-Donald_Albury-20240804145300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 7 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20240807141800-Donald_Albury-20240804145300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240807141800","author":"Doug Weller","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Doug_Weller-20240807141800-Donald_Albury-20240804145300","replies":["c-Donald_Albury-20240807153000-Doug_Weller-20240807141800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20240807141800-Donald_Albury-20240804145300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Donald_Albury-20240807153000-Doug_Weller-20240807141800"></span>And I don't see it (the disclaimer), now. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Donald_Albury" title="User talk:Donald Albury">Donald Albury</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Donald_Albury-20240807153000-Doug_Weller-20240807141800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Donald_Albury-20240807153000-Doug_Weller-20240807141800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240807153000","author":"Donald Albury","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Donald_Albury-20240807153000-Doug_Weller-20240807141800","replies":["c-98.97.57.29-20240930091000-Donald_Albury-20240807153000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Donald_Albury-20240807153000-Doug_Weller-20240807141800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-98.97.57.29-20240930091000-Donald_Albury-20240807153000"></span>Hyperbole, typos ("wholistic"?) and a lot of basic civil engineering boo-boos infest this so-called "paper". It reads like a History Channel script. I could shoot a thousand holes in their dam theory alone. Never mind that there is no distribution system for the supposed water treatment system, nor any reason to have a settling pond to float big rocks with "pure" water instead of dirty, and you can ignore the fact that their timescales and labor estimates do not agree with any other source. One known fact I recall from my limited knowledge of Egyptology. In this section of the river at this time period, this bank was "taboo" for the type of habitation such a facility would benefit. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.97.57.29" title="Special:Contributions/98.97.57.29">98.97.57.29</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:98.97.57.29&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:98.97.57.29 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-98.97.57.29-20240930091000-Donald_Albury-20240807153000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-98.97.57.29-20240930091000-Donald_Albury-20240807153000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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early human arrival in Mallorca, Spain&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Submerged bridge constructed at least 5600 years ago indicates early human arrival in Mallorca, Spain&quot;}--><h2 id="Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arrival_in_Mallorca,_Spain" data-mw-thread-id="h-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv-20240831124800"><span id="Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arrival_in_Mallorca.2C_Spain"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv-20240831124800"></span>Submerged bridge constructed at least 5600 years ago indicates early human arrival in Mallorca, Spain<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv-20240831124800"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Doug_Weller-20240831124800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv-20240831124800","replies":["c-Doug_Weller-20240831124800-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Doug_Weller-20240831124800-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv","timestamp":"20240831124800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Doug_Weller-20240831124800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv-20240831124800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Doug_Weller-20240831124800-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Submerged bridge constructed at least 5600 years ago indicates early human arrival in Mallorca, Spain&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Submerged bridge constructed at least 5600 years ago indicates early human arrival in Mallorca, Spain&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20240831124800-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv"></span>See <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s43247-024-01584-4?utm_medium=affiliate&amp;utm_source=commission_junction&amp;utm_campaign=CONR_PF018_ECOM_GL_PBOK_ALWYS_DEEPLINK&amp;utm_content=textlink&amp;utm_term=PID100094349&amp;CJEVENT=eda7a1b4679611ef832cd10c0a18ba73">[2]</a>/ <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Doug_Weller-20240831124800-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20240831124800-Submerged_bridge_constructed_at_least_5600_years_ago_indicates_early_human_arriv"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Z1720-20240831155000&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Archaeoastronomy-20240831155000&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Z1720-20240831155000-Good_article_reassessment_for_Archaeoastronomy&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for Archaeoastronomy&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for Archaeoastronomy&quot;}--><h2 id="Good_article_reassessment_for_Archaeoastronomy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Archaeoastronomy-20240831155000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Archaeoastronomy-20240831155000"></span>Good article reassessment for <a href="/wiki/Archaeoastronomy" title="Archaeoastronomy">Archaeoastronomy</a><span 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If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_reassessment/Archaeoastronomy/1" title="Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Archaeoastronomy/1">reassessment page</a>. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Z1720" title="User:Z1720">Z1720</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Z1720" title="User talk:Z1720">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Z1720-20240831155000-Good_article_reassessment_for_Archaeoastronomy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Z1720-20240831155000-Good_article_reassessment_for_Archaeoastronomy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240831155000","author":"Z1720","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Z1720-20240831155000-Good_article_reassessment_for_Archaeoastronomy","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Z1720-20240831155000-Good_article_reassessment_for_Archaeoastronomy"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Lajmmoore-20240925180800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red-20240925180800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Lajmmoore-20240925180800-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Archaeology at Women in Red&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Archaeology at Women in Red&quot;}--><h2 id="Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red" data-mw-thread-id="h-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red-20240925180800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red-20240925180800"></span>Archaeology at Women in Red<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red-20240925180800"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Lajmmoore-20240925180800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red-20240925180800","replies":["c-Lajmmoore-20240925180800-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Lajmmoore-20240925180800-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red","timestamp":"20240925180800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Lajmmoore-20240925180800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red-20240925180800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Lajmmoore-20240925180800-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Archaeology at Women in Red&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Archaeology at Women in Red&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lajmmoore-20240925180800-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red"></span>hello all, just a note to build on the above discussion for Wikiproject Archaeology's Women's Taskforce, is that supporting the initiative in on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/320" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/320">event list for next month</a> at Women in Red. Hopefully we can support this project to de-stub and create some new article to reach your goals, and you are of course extremely welcome to join us! <a href="/wiki/User:Lajmmoore" title="User:Lajmmoore">Lajmmoore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lajmmoore" title="User talk:Lajmmoore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Lajmmoore-20240925180800-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lajmmoore-20240925180800-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240925180800","author":"Lajmmoore","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lajmmoore-20240925180800-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lajmmoore-20240925180800-Archaeology_at_Women_in_Red"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mathglot-20240928001300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-La_Otra_Banda_\u2013_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru-20240928001300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mathglot-20240928001300-La_Otra_Banda_\u2013_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;La Otra Banda \u2013 4,000-year-old site in Peru&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;La Otra Banda \u2013 4,000-year-old site in Peru&quot;}--><h2 id="La_Otra_Banda_–_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru" data-mw-thread-id="h-La_Otra_Banda_–_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru-20240928001300"><span id="La_Otra_Banda_.E2.80.93_4.2C000-year-old_site_in_Peru"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-La_Otra_Banda_–_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru-20240928001300"></span>La Otra Banda – 4,000-year-old site in Peru<span data-mw-comment-end="h-La_Otra_Banda_–_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru-20240928001300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mathglot-20240928001300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-La_Otra_Banda_\u2013_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru-20240928001300","replies":["c-Mathglot-20240928001300-La_Otra_Banda_\u2013_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mathglot-20240928001300-La_Otra_Banda_\u2013_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru","timestamp":"20240928001300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mathglot-20240928001300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-La_Otra_Banda_\u2013_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru-20240928001300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mathglot-20240928001300-La_Otra_Banda_\u2013_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;La Otra Banda \u2013 4,000-year-old site in Peru&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;La Otra Banda \u2013 4,000-year-old site in Peru&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mathglot-20240928001300-La_Otra_Banda_–_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru"></span>Announcing new article <i><a href="/wiki/La_Otra_Banda" title="La Otra Banda">La Otra Banda</a></i>, about a 4,000-y.o. temple discovered in northwestern Peru. Your contributions to this article would be welcome, as would in-links from other, related articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Mathglot-20240928001300-La_Otra_Banda_–_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:13, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mathglot-20240928001300-La_Otra_Banda_–_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240928001300","author":"Mathglot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mathglot-20240928001300-La_Otra_Banda_\u2013_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mathglot-20240928001300-La_Otra_Banda_–_4,000-year-old_site_in_Peru"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Doug_Weller-20240930160200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Pseudoarchaeology-20240930160200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Doug_Weller-20240930160200-Pseudoarchaeology&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Pseudoarchaeology&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Pseudoarchaeology&quot;}--><h2 id="Pseudoarchaeology" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pseudoarchaeology-20240930160200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pseudoarchaeology-20240930160200"></span><a href="/wiki/Pseudoarchaeology" title="Pseudoarchaeology">Pseudoarchaeology</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pseudoarchaeology-20240930160200"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Doug_Weller-20240930160200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Pseudoarchaeology-20240930160200","replies":["c-Doug_Weller-20240930160200-Pseudoarchaeology"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-WhatamIdoing-20241004224600-Doug_Weller-20240930160200","timestamp":"20241004224600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Doug_Weller-20240930160200&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Pseudoarchaeology-20240930160200&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Doug_Weller-20240930160200-Pseudoarchaeology&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Pseudoarchaeology&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Pseudoarchaeology&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20240930160200-Pseudoarchaeology"></span>Any comments on the removal of alternative names here? <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pseudoarchaeology&amp;diff=1248620243&amp;oldid=1248591334">[3]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Doug_Weller-20240930160200-Pseudoarchaeology" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20240930160200-Pseudoarchaeology"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930160200","author":"Doug Weller","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doug_Weller-20240930160200-Pseudoarchaeology","replies":["c-WhatamIdoing-20241004224600-Doug_Weller-20240930160200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20240930160200-Pseudoarchaeology"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhatamIdoing-20241004224600-Doug_Weller-20240930160200"></span>As a general rule, having five synonyms in the first paragraph is not recommended by the MOS. <a href="/wiki/User:WhatamIdoing" title="User:WhatamIdoing">WhatamIdoing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing" title="User talk:WhatamIdoing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-WhatamIdoing-20241004224600-Doug_Weller-20240930160200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhatamIdoing-20241004224600-Doug_Weller-20240930160200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241004224600","author":"WhatamIdoing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WhatamIdoing-20241004224600-Doug_Weller-20240930160200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhatamIdoing-20241004224600-Doug_Weller-20240930160200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-WhatamIdoing-20241004225300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Looking_for_a_timeline-20241004225300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-WhatamIdoing-20241004225300-Looking_for_a_timeline&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Looking for a timeline&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Looking for a timeline&quot;}--><h2 id="Looking_for_a_timeline" data-mw-thread-id="h-Looking_for_a_timeline-20241004225300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Looking_for_a_timeline-20241004225300"></span>Looking for a timeline<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Looking_for_a_timeline-20241004225300"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WhatamIdoing-20241004225300","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Looking_for_a_timeline-20241004225300","replies":["c-WhatamIdoing-20241004225300-Looking_for_a_timeline"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-WhatamIdoing-20241004225300-Looking_for_a_timeline","timestamp":"20241004225300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-WhatamIdoing-20241004225300&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Looking_for_a_timeline-20241004225300&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-WhatamIdoing-20241004225300-Looking_for_a_timeline&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Looking for a timeline&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Looking for a timeline&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhatamIdoing-20241004225300-Looking_for_a_timeline"></span>Is there something similar to <a href="/wiki/List_of_archaeological_periods" title="List of archaeological periods">List of archaeological periods</a> but which aligns the different time periods? After seeing <a href="/wiki/Mesoamerican_chronology" title="Mesoamerican chronology">Mesoamerican chronology</a>, I'm looking for something like a table with Africa/Americas/Asia/Europe across the top, and then you can look down the list and see at a glance that the <a href="/wiki/Archaic_period_in_Mesoamerica" title="Archaic period in Mesoamerica">Archaic period in Mesoamerica</a> aligns (or doesn't align) with whatever period you're looking at in a different part of the world. <a href="/wiki/User:WhatamIdoing" title="User:WhatamIdoing">WhatamIdoing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing" title="User talk:WhatamIdoing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-WhatamIdoing-20241004225300-Looking_for_a_timeline" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:53, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhatamIdoing-20241004225300-Looking_for_a_timeline"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241004225300","author":"WhatamIdoing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WhatamIdoing-20241004225300-Looking_for_a_timeline","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhatamIdoing-20241004225300-Looking_for_a_timeline"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Z1720-20241005164800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief-20241005164800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Z1720-20241005164800-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for Burney Relief&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for Burney Relief&quot;}--><h2 id="Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief" data-mw-thread-id="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief-20241005164800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief-20241005164800"></span>Good article reassessment for <a href="/wiki/Burney_Relief" title="Burney Relief">Burney Relief</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief-20241005164800"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Z1720-20241005164800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief-20241005164800","replies":["c-Z1720-20241005164800-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Z1720-20241005164800-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief","timestamp":"20241005164800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Z1720-20241005164800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief-20241005164800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Z1720-20241005164800-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for Burney Relief&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for Burney Relief&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Burney_Relief" title="Burney Relief"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Z1720-20241005164800-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief"></span>Burney Relief</a> has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_reassessment/Burney_Relief/1" title="Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Burney Relief/1">reassessment page</a>. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Z1720" title="User:Z1720">Z1720</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Z1720" title="User talk:Z1720">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Z1720-20241005164800-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Z1720-20241005164800-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241005164800","author":"Z1720","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Z1720-20241005164800-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Z1720-20241005164800-Good_article_reassessment_for_Burney_Relief"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Z1720-20241016025900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani-20241016025900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Z1720-20241016025900-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for Ahmad Hasan Dani&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for Ahmad Hasan Dani&quot;}--><h2 id="Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani" data-mw-thread-id="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani-20241016025900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani-20241016025900"></span>Good article reassessment for <a href="/wiki/Ahmad_Hasan_Dani" title="Ahmad Hasan Dani">Ahmad Hasan Dani</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani-20241016025900"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Z1720-20241016025900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani-20241016025900","replies":["c-Z1720-20241016025900-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Z1720-20241016025900-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani","timestamp":"20241016025900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Z1720-20241016025900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani-20241016025900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Z1720-20241016025900-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for Ahmad Hasan Dani&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Good article reassessment for Ahmad Hasan Dani&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Ahmad_Hasan_Dani" title="Ahmad Hasan Dani"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Z1720-20241016025900-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani"></span>Ahmad Hasan Dani</a> has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_reassessment/Ahmad_Hasan_Dani/1" title="Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Ahmad Hasan Dani/1">reassessment page</a>. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Z1720" title="User:Z1720">Z1720</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Z1720" title="User talk:Z1720">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Z1720-20241016025900-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:59, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Z1720-20241016025900-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241016025900","author":"Z1720","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Z1720-20241016025900-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Z1720-20241016025900-Good_article_reassessment_for_Ahmad_Hasan_Dani"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Thriley-20241023204900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Bob_Hobman-20241023204900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Thriley-20241023204900-Bob_Hobman&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Bob Hobman&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Bob Hobman&quot;}--><h2 id="Bob_Hobman" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bob_Hobman-20241023204900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bob_Hobman-20241023204900"></span><a href="/wiki/Bob_Hobman" title="Bob Hobman">Bob Hobman</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bob_Hobman-20241023204900"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Thriley-20241023204900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Bob_Hobman-20241023204900","replies":["c-Thriley-20241023204900-Bob_Hobman"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Thriley-20241023204900-Bob_Hobman","timestamp":"20241023204900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Thriley-20241023204900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Bob_Hobman-20241023204900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Thriley-20241023204900-Bob_Hobman&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Bob Hobman&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Bob Hobman&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thriley-20241023204900-Bob_Hobman"></span>I just created a stub for <a href="/wiki/Bob_Hobman" title="Bob Hobman">Bob Hobman</a>, a sailor who has made a number of voyages on recreations of prehistoric boats. Any help with expansion would be appreciated! <a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thriley" title="User talk:Thriley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Thriley-20241023204900-Bob_Hobman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thriley-20241023204900-Bob_Hobman"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241023204900","author":"Thriley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thriley-20241023204900-Bob_Hobman","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thriley-20241023204900-Bob_Hobman"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Nanoyo88-20241103070600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Katherine_Routledge-20241103070600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Nanoyo88-20241103070600-Katherine_Routledge&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Katherine Routledge&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Katherine Routledge&quot;}--><h2 id="Katherine_Routledge" data-mw-thread-id="h-Katherine_Routledge-20241103070600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Katherine_Routledge-20241103070600"></span><a href="/wiki/Katherine_Routledge" title="Katherine Routledge">Katherine Routledge</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Katherine_Routledge-20241103070600"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nanoyo88-20241103070600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Katherine_Routledge-20241103070600","replies":["c-Nanoyo88-20241103070600-Katherine_Routledge"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Nanoyo88-20241103070600-Katherine_Routledge","timestamp":"20241103070600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Nanoyo88-20241103070600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Katherine_Routledge-20241103070600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Nanoyo88-20241103070600-Katherine_Routledge&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Katherine Routledge&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Katherine Routledge&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nanoyo88-20241103070600-Katherine_Routledge"></span>Hello, I am a French speaker and have worked on Katherine Routledge's article on the French Wikipedia. I don't have a strong enough command of English to consider translating it into English myself. I'm leaving this message because I'm also surprised by the article's importance ranking within the project. </p><p>Considering that Katherine Routledge led the first scientific expedition to Easter Island, she is, by definition, a pioneer. But more than that, her research serves as a foundation for the entire field of subsequent archaeological study—even to this day, due to the rediscovery of multiple documents since the 1970s. This is asserted by Jo Anne Van Tilburg and various academics who have critiqued her book <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nanoyo88&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nanoyo88 (page does not exist)">Nanoyo88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nanoyo88" title="User talk:Nanoyo88">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Nanoyo88-20241103070600-Katherine_Routledge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nanoyo88-20241103070600-Katherine_Routledge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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right in thinking Tartessos needs to be cleaned up to remove media sources?&quot;}--><h2 id="Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?-20241111142800"><span id="Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?-20241111142800"></span>Am I right in thinking <a href="/wiki/Tartessos" title="Tartessos">Tartessos</a> needs to be cleaned up to remove media sources?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?-20241111142800"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Doug_Weller-20241111142800","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?-20241111142800","replies":["c-Doug_Weller-20241111142800-Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Doug_Weller-20241111142800-Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?","timestamp":"20241111142800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Doug_Weller-20241111142800&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?-20241111142800&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Doug_Weller-20241111142800-Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Am I right in thinking Tartessos needs to be cleaned up to remove media sources?&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Am I right in thinking Tartessos needs to be cleaned up to remove media sources?&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20241111142800-Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?"></span>I just removed one on that basis, we should have peer reviewed sources, especially as the media sources may have been challenged. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Doug_Weller-20241111142800-Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20241111142800-Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111142800","author":"Doug Weller","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doug_Weller-20241111142800-Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20241111142800-Am_I_right_in_thinking_Tartessos_needs_to_be_cleaned_up_to_remove_media_sources?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service-20241115182400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Event on 19 November with the Archaeology Data Service&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Event on 19 November with the Archaeology Data Service&quot;}--><h2 id="Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service" data-mw-thread-id="h-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service-20241115182400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service-20241115182400"></span>Event on 19 November with the <a href="/wiki/Archaeology_Data_Service" title="Archaeology Data Service">Archaeology Data Service</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service-20241115182400"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service-20241115182400","replies":["c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241121092000-Joe_Roe-20241121083800","timestamp":"20241121092000"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service-20241115182400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Event on 19 November with the Archaeology Data Service&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Event on 19 November with the Archaeology Data Service&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service"></span>Wikimedia UK and the ADS are collaborating to run an online editathon next week. The aim is to add DOIs to references where there are PDFs in the ADS. There is a registration page on Eventbrite: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/help-the-ads-improve-dois-on-wikipedia-tickets-1075492820979">https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/help-the-ads-improve-dois-on-wikipedia-tickets-1075492820979</a> </p><p>Project members are very welcome to join us - it will begin with a brisk how to edit section but the main focus will be on adding DOIs. </p><p>But importantly I'd like to ask that if you know archaeologists or enthusiasts who might be curious about Wikipedia please let them know about the event. I think this should be a low-barrier way to get started and I hope that folks will leave the session feeling that they have helped Wikipedia's readers and the ADS by making the resources easier to find. <a href="/wiki/User:Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)" title="User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)">Richard Nevell (WMUK)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)" title="User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241115182400","author":"Richard Nevell (WMUK)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service","replies":["c-Joe_Roe-20241121083800-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400-Event_on_19_November_with_the_Archaeology_Data_Service"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joe_Roe-20241121083800-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Richard_Nevell" title="User:Richard Nevell">Richard Nevell</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)" title="User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)">Richard Nevell (WMUK)</a>:</span> Sounds like a great event, unfortunately I couldn't make it but I'd love to if you do something similar again. How did it go? – <a href="/wiki/User:Joe_Roe" title="User:Joe Roe">Joe</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Roe" title="User talk:Joe Roe">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Joe_Roe-20241121083800-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joe_Roe-20241121083800-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241121083800","author":"Joe Roe","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Joe_Roe-20241121083800-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400","replies":["c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241121092000-Joe_Roe-20241121083800"],"displayName":"Joe"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joe_Roe-20241121083800-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241115182400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241121092000-Joe_Roe-20241121083800"></span>There was a group of eight of us and we made some good progress. The <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Archaeology_Data_Service/Help_the_ADS_improve_DOIs_on_Wikipedia">outreach dashboard</a> hasn't caught up, but I think we added more than 100 DOIs. It mostly focused on journals hosted by the ADS as those are most commonly used on Wikipedia out of their various datasets. As the DOIs link to the ADS and their scans, it's been making the references more accessible.</dd> <dd>I'm keen to run it again and the ADS are open to it time permitting. There might even be <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/app/uploads/2022/05/trowel-grp-usb-sm.jpg">trowel-shaped USB sticks</a> up for grabs! <a href="/wiki/User:Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)" title="User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)">Richard Nevell (WMUK)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)" title="User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241121092000-Joe_Roe-20241121083800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241121092000-Joe_Roe-20241121083800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241121092000","author":"Richard Nevell (WMUK)","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241121092000-Joe_Roe-20241121083800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Richard_Nevell_(WMUK)-20241121092000-Joe_Roe-20241121083800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Joe_Roe-20241121083900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles-20241121083900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Joe_Roe-20241121083900-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;50 unreferenced archaeology articles&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;50 unreferenced archaeology articles&quot;}--><h2 id="50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles-20241121083900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles-20241121083900"></span>50 unreferenced archaeology articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles-20241121083900"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Joe_Roe-20241121083900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles-20241121083900","replies":["c-Joe_Roe-20241121083900-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Richard_Nevell-20241126211600-Joe_Roe-20241121083900","timestamp":"20241126211600"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Joe_Roe-20241121083900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles-20241121083900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Joe_Roe-20241121083900-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;50 unreferenced archaeology articles&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;50 unreferenced archaeology articles&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Unreferenced_articles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joe_Roe-20241121083900-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles"></span>Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles</a> is currently holding a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Unreferenced_articles/Backlog_drives/November_2024" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/November 2024">backlog drive</a>, as part of which I'm trying to work through <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Archaeology.html#Cites%20no%20sources">unreferenced archaeology articles</a>. There are only about fifty left – would be great if we could get rid of them all by the end of the month! – <a href="/wiki/User:Joe_Roe" title="User:Joe Roe">Joe</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joe_Roe" title="User talk:Joe Roe">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Joe_Roe-20241121083900-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:39, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joe_Roe-20241121083900-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241121083900","author":"Joe Roe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Joe_Roe-20241121083900-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles","replies":["c-Richard_Nevell-20241126211600-Joe_Roe-20241121083900"],"displayName":"Joe"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joe_Roe-20241121083900-50_unreferenced_archaeology_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Richard_Nevell-20241126211600-Joe_Roe-20241121083900"></span>I don't have time for much, but I was at least able to give <a href="/wiki/Mortarium" title="Mortarium">mortarium</a> a once over. <a href="/wiki/User:Richard_Nevell" title="User:Richard Nevell">Richard Nevell</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Richard_Nevell" title="User talk:Richard Nevell">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Richard_Nevell-20241126211600-Joe_Roe-20241121083900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Richard_Nevell-20241126211600-Joe_Roe-20241121083900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241126211600","author":"Richard Nevell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Richard_Nevell-20241126211600-Joe_Roe-20241121083900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Richard_Nevell-20241126211600-Joe_Roe-20241121083900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Donald_Albury-20241123161700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Dating_archaeological_sites-20241123161700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Donald_Albury-20241123161700-Dating_archaeological_sites&quot;,&quot;c-Donald_Albury-20241127005800-Dating_archaeological_sites&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Dating archaeological sites&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Dating archaeological sites&quot;}--><h2 id="Dating_archaeological_sites" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dating_archaeological_sites-20241123161700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dating_archaeological_sites-20241123161700"></span>Dating archaeological sites<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dating_archaeological_sites-20241123161700"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Donald_Albury-20241123161700","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Dating_archaeological_sites-20241123161700","replies":["c-Donald_Albury-20241123161700-Dating_archaeological_sites","c-Donald_Albury-20241127005800-Dating_archaeological_sites"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Donald_Albury-20241127005800-Dating_archaeological_sites","timestamp":"20241127005800"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Donald_Albury-20241123161700&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Dating_archaeological_sites-20241123161700&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Donald_Albury-20241123161700-Dating_archaeological_sites&quot;,&quot;c-Donald_Albury-20241127005800-Dating_archaeological_sites&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Dating archaeological sites&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Dating archaeological sites&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Donald_Albury-20241123161700-Dating_archaeological_sites"></span>Ran across something today that annoyed me. The cited source says, <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">The site is believed to have had its pri[n]cipal occupation between AD 1250 and 1550.</q><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090301034212/http://tps.cr.nps.gov/nhl/detail.cfm?ResourceId=1420&amp;ResourceType=Site">[4]</a> That became <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The site was occupied between 1250 and 1550, ...</q> in the <a href="/wiki/Bottle_Creek_Indian_Mounds" title="Bottle Creek Indian Mounds">Bottle Creek Indian Mounds</a> article. And today the article was moved from <a href="/wiki/Category:Populated_places_established_in_the_13th_century" title="Category:Populated places established in the 13th century">Category:Populated places established in the 13th century</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:Populated_places_established_in_1250" title="Category:Populated places established in 1250">Category:Populated places established in 1250</a> and from <a href="/wiki/Category:Populated_places_disestablished_in_the_16th_century" title="Category:Populated places disestablished in the 16th century">Category:Populated places disestablished in the 16th century</a> to <a href="/wiki/Category:Populated_places_disestablished_in_1550" title="Category:Populated places disestablished in 1550">Category:Populated places disestablished in 1550</a>, which I believe is much too specific for dating an archaeological site. I have reverted those changes, and also removed the existing <a href="/wiki/Category:1250_establishments" title="Category:1250 establishments">Category:1250 establishments</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:1550_disestablishments" title="Category:1550 disestablishments">Category:1550 disestablishments</a>. I understand that editors in good faith see dates in an article and want to brings categories into line with those dates, but that can be a problem if they do not understand that dates for archaeological sites are almost always approximate and often very broad estimates. I realize this is not one of the big problems in WP, but, as I said, it annoyed me, so I wanted to vent. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Donald_Albury" title="User talk:Donald Albury">Donald Albury</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Donald_Albury-20241123161700-Dating_archaeological_sites" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Donald_Albury-20241123161700-Dating_archaeological_sites"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241123161700","author":"Donald Albury","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Donald_Albury-20241123161700-Dating_archaeological_sites","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Donald_Albury-20241123161700-Dating_archaeological_sites"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Donald_Albury-20241127005800-Dating_archaeological_sites"></span>Could somebody look at <a href="/wiki/Bottle_Creek_Indian_Mounds" title="Bottle Creek Indian Mounds">Bottle Creek Indian Mounds</a> and offer an opinion on the dates of establishment and disestablishment for the site? - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Donald_Albury" title="User talk:Donald Albury">Donald Albury</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Donald_Albury-20241127005800-Dating_archaeological_sites" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Donald_Albury-20241127005800-Dating_archaeological_sites"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241127005800","author":"Donald Albury","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Donald_Albury-20241127005800-Dating_archaeological_sites","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Donald_Albury-20241127005800-Dating_archaeological_sites"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Tolozen-20241124045400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;Inscriptions_and_Herostones\&quot;_articles-20241124045400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Tolozen-20241124045400-\&quot;Inscriptions_and_Herostones\&quot;_articles&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Inscriptions and Herostones\&quot; articles&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Inscriptions and Herostones\&quot; articles&quot;}--><h2 id="&quot;Inscriptions_and_Herostones&quot;_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-&quot;Inscriptions_and_Herostones&quot;_articles-20241124045400"><span id=".22Inscriptions_and_Herostones.22_articles"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-&quot;Inscriptions_and_Herostones&quot;_articles-20241124045400"></span>"Inscriptions and Herostones" articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-&quot;Inscriptions_and_Herostones&quot;_articles-20241124045400"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Tolozen-20241124045400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Inscriptions_and_Herostones\"_articles-20241124045400","replies":["c-Tolozen-20241124045400-\"Inscriptions_and_Herostones\"_articles"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Tolozen-20241126091500-Tolozen-20241124045400","timestamp":"20241126091500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Tolozen-20241124045400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-\&quot;Inscriptions_and_Herostones\&quot;_articles-20241124045400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Tolozen-20241124045400-\&quot;Inscriptions_and_Herostones\&quot;_articles&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Inscriptions and Herostones\&quot; articles&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;\&quot;Inscriptions and Herostones\&quot; articles&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tolozen-20241124045400-&quot;Inscriptions_and_Herostones&quot;_articles"></span>I've noticed a pattern of articles with titles ending in "Inscriptions and Herostones" or "Inscriptions &amp; Herostones". I've copyedited and fixed bare URLs on a couple, but now that I've discovered just how many there are I believe some larger effort may need to be put towards them. They all follow a similar format. They need copyediting, often rely on one source. The articles should at least all follow the same naming convention, which I am dealing with now (shortening, lowercasing letters which should be, and splitting "hero stone" into to words). I didn't know where to ask because there's not one single talk page for such a group. Here's an example: <a href="/wiki/Gulakamale_(Bengaluru)_Inscriptions_and_Herostones" class="mw-redirect" title="Gulakamale (Bengaluru) Inscriptions and Herostones">Gulakamale (Bengaluru) Inscriptions and Herostones</a>. I've been told to post this here (from the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk" title="Wikipedia:Help desk">Wikipedia:Help desk</a>, and it may be good to post it to <a href="/wiki/Talk:Kannada_inscriptions" title="Talk:Kannada inscriptions">Talk:Kannada inscriptions</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics" title="Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics">Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics</a> as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Tolozen" title="User:Tolozen">Tolozen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tolozen" title="User talk:Tolozen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Tolozen-20241124045400-&quot;Inscriptions_and_Herostones&quot;_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tolozen-20241124045400-&quot;Inscriptions_and_Herostones&quot;_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241124045400","author":"Tolozen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tolozen-20241124045400-\"Inscriptions_and_Herostones\"_articles","replies":["c-Tolozen-20241126091500-Tolozen-20241124045400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tolozen-20241124045400-&quot;Inscriptions_and_Herostones&quot;_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tolozen-20241126091500-Tolozen-20241124045400"></span>To update: I moved each article to one ending in "inscriptions and hero stones", but other than that have left them unchanged. <a href="/wiki/User:Tolozen" title="User:Tolozen">Tolozen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tolozen" title="User talk:Tolozen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology#c-Tolozen-20241126091500-Tolozen-20241124045400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:15, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tolozen-20241126091500-Tolozen-20241124045400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241126091500","author":"Tolozen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tolozen-20241126091500-Tolozen-20241124045400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tolozen-20241126091500-Tolozen-20241124045400"></span></dd></dl></div><!--esi <esi:include src="/esitest-fa8a495983347898/content" /> --><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology&amp;oldid=1259783305">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Archaeology&amp;oldid=1259783305</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Project-Class_Archaeology_articles" title="Category:Project-Class Archaeology articles">Project-Class Archaeology articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-importance_Archaeology_articles" title="Category:NA-importance Archaeology articles">NA-importance Archaeology articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_pages_referenced_by_the_press" title="Category:Wikipedia pages referenced by the press">Wikipedia pages referenced by the press</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 27 November 2024, at 00:58<span class="anonymous-show">&#160;(UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright"><span class="nowraplinks">This version of the page has been <a href="/wiki/Help:Page_history" title="Help:Page history">revised</a>. 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