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class="vector-toc-link" href="#Page_name_moving"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Page name moving</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Page_name_moving-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Replaceable_fair_use_Image:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Replaceable_fair_use_Image:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Replaceable fair use Image:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Replaceable_fair_use_Image:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-redlink_Morphological_Doubling_Theory" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#redlink_Morphological_Doubling_Theory"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>redlink Morphological Doubling Theory</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-redlink_Morphological_Doubling_Theory-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Issues_with_Tlingit_map" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Issues_with_Tlingit_map"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Issues with Tlingit map</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Issues_with_Tlingit_map-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-NowCommons:_File:Mono_home.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#NowCommons:_File:Mono_home.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>NowCommons: File:Mono home.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-NowCommons:_File:Mono_home.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Unreferenced_BLPs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Unreferenced_BLPs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>Unreferenced BLPs</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Unreferenced_BLPs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hi,_would_you_be_so_kind_as_to_give_us_support!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hi,_would_you_be_so_kind_as_to_give_us_support!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>Hi, would you be so kind as to give us support!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Hi,_would_you_be_so_kind_as_to_give_us_support!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-WikiProject_Theoretical_Linguistics" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#WikiProject_Theoretical_Linguistics"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>WikiProject Theoretical Linguistics</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-WikiProject_Theoretical_Linguistics-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Chiricahua_Ft._Sill_seal.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Chiricahua_Ft._Sill_seal.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Fair use rationale for File:Chiricahua Ft. Sill seal.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Chiricahua_Ft._Sill_seal.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Munsee_language" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Munsee_language"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>The Munsee language</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-The_Munsee_language-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>Fair use rationale for File:Harry Hoijer.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Fair use rationale for File:Harry Hoijer.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>What was your reason for reverting me edit?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mongolian_language" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mongolian_language"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>Mongolian language</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Mongolian_language-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Non-Free_rationale_for_File:Jaco_Pastorius_-_Donna_Lee_melody_excerpt.ogg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Non-Free_rationale_for_File:Jaco_Pastorius_-_Donna_Lee_melody_excerpt.ogg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Non-Free rationale for File:Jaco Pastorius - Donna Lee melody excerpt.ogg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Non-Free_rationale_for_File:Jaco_Pastorius_-_Donna_Lee_melody_excerpt.ogg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Zuni" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Zuni"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Zuni</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Zuni-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-MSU_Interview" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#MSU_Interview"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>MSU Interview</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-MSU_Interview-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Southern_Athabascan_grammar_typo?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Southern_Athabascan_grammar_typo?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Southern Athabascan grammar typo?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Southern_Athabascan_grammar_typo?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>A barnstar for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-June_2012" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#June_2012"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>June 2012</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-June_2012-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>flap realization of Hopi /r/</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets_PRIMARYTOPIC/dab_dispute_at_RM" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets_PRIMARYTOPIC/dab_dispute_at_RM"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets PRIMARYTOPIC/dab dispute at RM</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets_PRIMARYTOPIC/dab_dispute_at_RM-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Found_this_old_comment_of_yours_from_2005" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Found_this_old_comment_of_yours_from_2005"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Found this old comment of yours from 2005</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Found_this_old_comment_of_yours_from_2005-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request_for_comment" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request_for_comment"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Request for comment</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Request_for_comment-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Welcome_back_(I_hope_youre_here_to_stay)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Welcome_back_(I_hope_youre_here_to_stay)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>Welcome back (I hope youre here to stay)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Welcome_back_(I_hope_youre_here_to_stay)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Global_account" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Global_account"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>Global account</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Global_account-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>ArbCom elections are now open!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Shogi_strategy_and_tactics" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Shogi_strategy_and_tactics"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Shogi strategy and tactics</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Shogi_strategy_and_tactics-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-OrphanReferenceFixer:_Help_on_reversion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#OrphanReferenceFixer:_Help_on_reversion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>OrphanReferenceFixer: Help on reversion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-OrphanReferenceFixer:_Help_on_reversion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_10" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_10"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for August 10</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_10-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Extended_confirmed_protection" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Extended_confirmed_protection"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Extended confirmed protection</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Extended_confirmed_protection-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Welcome_to_Wikipedia_Asian_Month!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Welcome_to_Wikipedia_Asian_Month!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Welcome to Wikipedia Asian Month!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Welcome_to_Wikipedia_Asian_Month!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Please_stop" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Please_stop"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>Please stop</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">16 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Please_stop-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Discretionary_sanctions_alert" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Discretionary_sanctions_alert"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>Discretionary sanctions alert</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Discretionary_sanctions_alert-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Template:Shogidiagram" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template:Shogidiagram"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Template:Shogidiagram</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Template:Shogidiagram-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Address_Collection_-_1st_reminder" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Address_Collection_-_1st_reminder"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Address Collection - 1st reminder</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Address_Collection_-_1st_reminder-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Buoyant_Rook" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Buoyant_Rook"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Buoyant Rook</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Buoyant_Rook-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Saraiki_dialect" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Saraiki_dialect"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Saraiki dialect</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Saraiki_dialect-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_-_February_2017" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Administrators'_newsletter_-_February_2017"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Administrators' newsletter - February 2017</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Administrators'_newsletter_-_February_2017-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Draft:Karolina_Stycznska" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Draft:Karolina_Stycznska"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Draft:Karolina Stycznska</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Draft:Karolina_Stycznska-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_11" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_11"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for March 11</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_11-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_18" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_18"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for March 18</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_18-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_28" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_28"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for March 28</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_28-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_5" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_5"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for April 5</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_5-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_12" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_12"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for April 12</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_12-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Shogi_minor_edits" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Shogi_minor_edits"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">56</span> <span>Shogi minor edits</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Shogi_minor_edits-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_21" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_21"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">57</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for April 21</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_21-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Shogi_Major_Titles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Shogi_Major_Titles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">58</span> <span>Shogi Major Titles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">9 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Shogi_Major_Titles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-shogi_minor_edit" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#shogi_minor_edit"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">59</span> <span>shogi minor edit</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-shogi_minor_edit-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Replaceable_fair_use_File:左馬.gif" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Replaceable_fair_use_File:左馬.gif"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">60</span> <span>Replaceable fair use File:左馬.gif</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Replaceable_fair_use_File:左馬.gif-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Replaceable_fair_use_File:Kifu325.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Replaceable_fair_use_File:Kifu325.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">61</span> <span>Replaceable fair use File:Kifu325.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Replaceable_fair_use_File:Kifu325.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Draft:Template:Infobox_shogi_professional" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Draft:Template:Infobox_shogi_professional"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">62</span> <span>Draft:Template:Infobox shogi professional</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Draft:Template:Infobox_shogi_professional-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Invitation_to_Admin_confidence_survey" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Invitation_to_Admin_confidence_survey"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">63</span> <span>Invitation to Admin confidence survey</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Invitation_to_Admin_confidence_survey-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Good_work_on_shogi_stuff" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Good_work_on_shogi_stuff"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">64</span> <span>Good work on shogi stuff</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Good_work_on_shogi_stuff-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Dab_pages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Dab_pages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">65</span> <span>Dab pages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Dab_pages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Wikipedia_Asian_Month_2017:_Invitation_to_Participate" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Wikipedia_Asian_Month_2017:_Invitation_to_Participate"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">66</span> <span>Wikipedia Asian Month 2017: Invitation to Participate</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Wikipedia_Asian_Month_2017:_Invitation_to_Participate-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">67</span> <span>ArbCom 2017 election voter message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Western_shogi_notation" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Western_shogi_notation"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">68</span> <span>Western shogi notation</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Western_shogi_notation-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hiura" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hiura"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">69</span> <span>Hiura</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Hiura-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Discussion_at_User_talk:Wbm1058#Failed_page-swap" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Discussion_at_User_talk:Wbm1058#Failed_page-swap"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">70</span> <span>Discussion at User talk:Wbm1058#Failed page-swap</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Discussion_at_User_talk:Wbm1058#Failed_page-swap-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hiroshi_Kamiya" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hiroshi_Kamiya"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">71</span> <span>Hiroshi Kamiya</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Hiroshi_Kamiya-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-reversions_of_Spiderjerky_(shogi_without_macron)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#reversions_of_Spiderjerky_(shogi_without_macron)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">72</span> <span>reversions of Spiderjerky (shogi without macron)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-reversions_of_Spiderjerky_(shogi_without_macron)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Discussion_at_User_talk:Biografer#Shogi_articles" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Discussion_at_User_talk:Biografer#Shogi_articles"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">73</span> <span>Discussion at User talk:Biografer#Shogi articles</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Discussion_at_User_talk:Biografer#Shogi_articles-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Discussion_at_WT:JAPAN#Date_formats" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Discussion_at_WT:JAPAN#Date_formats"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">74</span> <span>Discussion at WT:JAPAN#Date formats</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Discussion_at_WT:JAPAN#Date_formats-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-MOS_for_shogi" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#MOS_for_shogi"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">75</span> <span>MOS for shogi</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-MOS_for_shogi-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_12" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_12"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">76</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for March 12</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_12-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Talk:Shogi_archives" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Talk:Shogi_archives"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">77</span> <span>Talk:Shogi archives</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Talk:Shogi_archives-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_19" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_19"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">78</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for March 19</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_19-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Help_Needed" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Help_Needed"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">79</span> <span>Help Needed</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Help_Needed-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-{{event_date_and_age}}_on_shogi_players" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#{{event_date_and_age}}_on_shogi_players"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">80</span> <span><span>{{</span>event date and age<span>}}</span> on shogi players</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-{{event_date_and_age}}_on_shogi_players-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-How_can_we_make_an_articles_in_Meetei_Mayek_script_as_well_as_in_Meetei_language_can_be_allowed_to_Wikipedia?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#How_can_we_make_an_articles_in_Meetei_Mayek_script_as_well_as_in_Meetei_language_can_be_allowed_to_Wikipedia?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">81</span> <span>How can we make an articles in Meetei Mayek script as well as in Meetei language can be allowed to Wikipedia?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-How_can_we_make_an_articles_in_Meetei_Mayek_script_as_well_as_in_Meetei_language_can_be_allowed_to_Wikipedia?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_kitten_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_kitten_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">82</span> <span>A kitten for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_kitten_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">83</span> <span>A barnstar for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Module:Shogiboard" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nomination_for_deletion_of_Module:Shogiboard"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">84</span> <span>Nomination for deletion of Module:Shogiboard</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Module:Shogiboard-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Axininca_important_for_linguistic_theory" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Axininca_important_for_linguistic_theory"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">85</span> <span>Axininca important for linguistic theory</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Axininca_important_for_linguistic_theory-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Can_you_please_help_in_creating_templates!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Can_you_please_help_in_creating_templates!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">86</span> <span>Can you please help in creating templates!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Can_you_please_help_in_creating_templates!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">87</span> <span>ArbCom 2018 election voter message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo_Metropolis" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo_Metropolis"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">88</span> <span>Professional shogi players from Tokyo Metropolis</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo_Metropolis-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Red_link" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Red_link"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">89</span> <span>Red link</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Red_link-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2019_special_circular" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2019_special_circular"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">90</span> <span>ArbCom 2019 special circular</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2019_special_circular-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Administrator_account_security_(Correction_to_Arbcom_2019_special_circular)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Administrator_account_security_(Correction_to_Arbcom_2019_special_circular)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">91</span> <span>Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Administrator_account_security_(Correction_to_Arbcom_2019_special_circular)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Category:Queen_has_been_nominated_for_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Category:Queen_has_been_nominated_for_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">92</span> <span>Category:Queen has been nominated for discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Category:Queen_has_been_nominated_for_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Shogi_opening_sequences" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Shogi_opening_sequences"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">93</span> <span>Shogi opening sequences</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Shogi_opening_sequences-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ways_to_improve_Rushing_Silver" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ways_to_improve_Rushing_Silver"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">94</span> <span>Ways to improve Rushing Silver</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Ways_to_improve_Rushing_Silver-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Need_Help_of_Chandrayaan-2_Page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Need_Help_of_Chandrayaan-2_Page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">95</span> <span>Need Help of Chandrayaan-2 Page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Need_Help_of_Chandrayaan-2_Page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Jivaroan_languages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Jivaroan_languages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">96</span> <span>Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Jivaroan languages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Jivaroan_languages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Saliban_languages" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Saliban_languages"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">97</span> <span>Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Saliban languages</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Saliban_languages-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Momoko_Katō_redirects" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Momoko_Katō_redirects"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">98</span> <span>Momoko Katō redirects</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Momoko_Katō_redirects-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Most_moves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Most_moves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">99</span> <span>Most moves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Most_moves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Contentless_sections" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Contentless_sections"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">100</span> <span>Contentless sections</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Contentless_sections-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Kifu" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Kifu"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">101</span> <span>Kifu</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">5 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Kifu-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Template:Professional_Shogi_Players" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Template:Professional_Shogi_Players"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">102</span> <span>Template:Professional Shogi Players</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Template:Professional_Shogi_Players-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">103</span> <span>ArbCom 2019 election voter message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_First_Edit_Day!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">104</span> <span>Happy First Edit Day!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">105</span> <span>Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Draft_about_Eiō_tournament" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Draft_about_Eiō_tournament"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">106</span> <span>Draft about Eiō tournament</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Draft_about_Eiō_tournament-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Infobox_image_question" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Infobox_image_question"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">107</span> <span>Infobox image question</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Infobox_image_question-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Google_Code-In_2019_is_coming_-_please_mentor_some_documentation_tasks!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Google_Code-In_2019_is_coming_-_please_mentor_some_documentation_tasks!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">108</span> <span>Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Google_Code-In_2019_is_coming_-_please_mentor_some_documentation_tasks!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Tsume_shogi" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Tsume_shogi"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">109</span> <span>Tsume shogi</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Tsume_shogi-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Draft:Ladies_Professional_Shogi-players'_Association_of_Japan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Draft:Ladies_Professional_Shogi-players'_Association_of_Japan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">110</span> <span>Draft:Ladies Professional Shogi-players' Association of Japan</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Draft:Ladies_Professional_Shogi-players'_Association_of_Japan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">111</span> <span>Happy Adminship Anniversary!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Shogi_opening_sequences_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Shogi_opening_sequences_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">112</span> <span>Shogi opening sequences</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Shogi_opening_sequences_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Women's_3-kyū's" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Women's_3-kyū's"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">113</span> <span>Women's 3-kyū's</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Women's_3-kyū's-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_17" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_17"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">114</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for October 17</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_17-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regarding_modifications_to_semi_protected_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regarding_modifications_to_semi_protected_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">115</span> <span>Regarding modifications to semi protected page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Regarding_modifications_to_semi_protected_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_First_Edit_Day!_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">116</span> <span>Happy First Edit Day!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2020_Elections_voter_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2020_Elections_voter_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">117</span> <span>ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2020_Elections_voter_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Kuru_(mythology)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Kuru_(mythology)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">118</span> <span>Kuru (mythology)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Kuru_(mythology)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_"German_deck"_categories" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_"German_deck"_categories"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">119</span> <span>New "German deck" categories</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-New_"German_deck"_categories-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">120</span> <span>Happy Adminship Anniversary!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-YouTube_and_New_Testament_Canon" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#YouTube_and_New_Testament_Canon"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">121</span> <span>YouTube and New Testament Canon</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-YouTube_and_New_Testament_Canon-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Rahsaan_blackmysterypipes.ogg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Rahsaan_blackmysterypipes.ogg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">122</span> <span>Orphaned non-free image File:Rahsaan blackmysterypipes.ogg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Rahsaan_blackmysterypipes.ogg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Rahsaan_multiplesax.ogg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Rahsaan_multiplesax.ogg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">123</span> <span>Orphaned non-free image File:Rahsaan multiplesax.ogg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Rahsaan_multiplesax.ogg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!_3" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_First_Edit_Day!_3"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">124</span> <span>Happy First Edit Day!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!_3-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2021_Elections_voter_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2021_Elections_voter_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">125</span> <span>ArbCom 2021 Elections voter message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2021_Elections_voter_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Administrators_will_no_longer_be_autopatrolled" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Administrators_will_no_longer_be_autopatrolled"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">126</span> <span>Administrators will no longer be autopatrolled</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Administrators_will_no_longer_be_autopatrolled-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Merchandise_giveaway_nomination" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Merchandise_giveaway_nomination"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">127</span> <span>Merchandise giveaway nomination</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Merchandise_giveaway_nomination-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-How_we_will_see_unregistered_users" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#How_we_will_see_unregistered_users"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">128</span> <span>How we will see unregistered users</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-How_we_will_see_unregistered_users-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_10" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_10"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">129</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for January 10</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_10-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Discussion_at_Talk:Keiji_Nishikawa_§_Date_format" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Discussion_at_Talk:Keiji_Nishikawa_§_Date_format"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">130</span> <span>Discussion at Talk:Keiji Nishikawa § Date format</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Discussion_at_Talk:Keiji_Nishikawa_§_Date_format-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_3" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_3"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">131</span> <span>Happy Adminship Anniversary!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_3-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Request:_Article_Approval" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Request:_Article_Approval"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">132</span> <span>Request: Article Approval</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Request:_Article_Approval-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_14" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_14"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">133</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for February 14</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_14-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_24" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_24"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">134</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for February 24</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_February_24-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Discretionary_sanctions_alert_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Discretionary_sanctions_alert_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">135</span> <span>Discretionary sanctions alert</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Discretionary_sanctions_alert_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Earth_Day_2022_Edit-a-thon_-_April_22nd_-_2PM_EST" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Earth_Day_2022_Edit-a-thon_-_April_22nd_-_2PM_EST"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">136</span> <span>Earth Day 2022 Edit-a-thon - April 22nd - 2PM EST</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Earth_Day_2022_Edit-a-thon_-_April_22nd_-_2PM_EST-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_administrator_activity_requirement" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_administrator_activity_requirement"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">137</span> <span>New administrator activity requirement</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-New_administrator_activity_requirement-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_May_7" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_May_7"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">138</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for May 7</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_May_7-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Category_moves" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Category_moves"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">139</span> <span>Category moves</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Category_moves-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Go_category" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Go_category"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">140</span> <span>Go category</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Go_category-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!_4" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Happy_First_Edit_Day!_4"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">141</span> <span>Happy First Edit Day!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Happy_First_Edit_Day!_4-sublist" 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role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Busy_desk.svg/63px-Busy_desk.svg.png" decoding="async" width="63" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Busy_desk.svg/95px-Busy_desk.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f0/Busy_desk.svg/127px-Busy_desk.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="475" data-file-height="375"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">User:ish ishwar</a> is busy in <a href="/wiki/Real_life" title="Real life">real life</a> and may not respond swiftly to queries.</td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dt>archives</dt></dl> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar/2005talkpage" title="User talk:Ish ishwar/2005talkpage">User talk:ish ishwar/2005talkpage</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar/2006talkpage" title="User talk:Ish ishwar/2006talkpage">User talk:ish ishwar/2006talkpage</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar/2007talkpage" title="User talk:Ish ishwar/2007talkpage">User talk:ish ishwar/2007talkpage</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar/2008talkpage" title="User talk:Ish ishwar/2008talkpage">User talk:ish ishwar/2008talkpage</a></li></ul> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Navaho_language" data-mw-thread-id="h-Navaho_language-2014-06-05T20:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Navaho_language-2014-06-05T20:24:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Navaho_language" class="mw-redirect" title="Navaho language">Navaho language</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Navaho_language-2014-06-05T20:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Navaho language"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Beth_Wellington-2014-06-05T20:24:00.000Z-Navaho_language"></span>I posted query for assistance on <a href="/wiki/User:Rich_Farmbrough" title="User:Rich Farmbrough">Rich Farmbrough</a>'s talk page. I'm copying you, <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">Ish ishwar</a>, since you were mentioned. </p><p> The section "Language status" has a disputed note on it that dates back to January 2013. It refers one to the talk page, which I'm guessing is referring to the section "Is the language in decline, or incline?" The discussion is only two comments, a question by an ip address and a response by <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">Ish ishwar</a> who is still active on Wikipedia. The latter appears to me to settle the "dispute" by providing an adequate clarification. Additionally, it would appear the introduction has been edited to delete the contradiction. Is there any way to resolve this and delete the tag? <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1251242444">.mw-parser-output .ambox{border:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-left:10px solid #36c;background-color:#fbfbfb;box-sizing:border-box}.mw-parser-output .ambox+link+.ambox,.mw-parser-output .ambox+link+style+.ambox,.mw-parser-output .ambox+link+link+.ambox,.mw-parser-output .ambox+.mw-empty-elt+link+.ambox,.mw-parser-output .ambox+.mw-empty-elt+link+style+.ambox,.mw-parser-output .ambox+.mw-empty-elt+link+link+.ambox{margin-top:-1px}html body.mediawiki .mw-parser-output .ambox.mbox-small-left{margin:4px 1em 4px 0;overflow:hidden;width:238px;border-collapse:collapse;font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em}.mw-parser-output .ambox-speedy{border-left:10px solid #b32424;background-color:#fee7e6}.mw-parser-output .ambox-delete{border-left:10px solid #b32424}.mw-parser-output .ambox-content{border-left:10px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output .ambox-style{border-left:10px solid #fc3}.mw-parser-output .ambox-move{border-left:10px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output .ambox-protection{border-left:10px solid #a2a9b1}.mw-parser-output .ambox .mbox-text{border:none;padding:0.25em 0.5em;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .ambox .mbox-image{border:none;padding:2px 0 2px 0.5em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .ambox .mbox-imageright{border:none;padding:2px 0.5em 2px 0;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .ambox .mbox-empty-cell{border:none;padding:0;width:1px}.mw-parser-output .ambox .mbox-image-div{width:52px}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .ambox{margin:0 10%}}@media print{body.ns-0 .mw-parser-output .ambox{display:none!important}}</style></p><table class="box-POV plainlinks metadata ambox ambox-content ambox-POV" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><div class="mbox-image-div"><span class="skin-invert" typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Unbalanced_scales.svg/45px-Unbalanced_scales.svg.png" decoding="async" width="45" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Unbalanced_scales.svg/68px-Unbalanced_scales.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Unbalanced_scales.svg/90px-Unbalanced_scales.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="400" data-file-height="354"/></span></span></div></td><td class="mbox-text"><div class="mbox-text-span">The <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view" title="Wikipedia:Neutral point of view">neutrality</a> of this section is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV_dispute" title="Wikipedia:NPOV dispute">disputed</a></b>.<span class="hide-when-compact"> Relevant discussion may be found on the <a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="##">talk page</a>. Please do not remove this message until <a href="/wiki/Template:POV#When_to_remove" title="Template:POV">conditions to do so are met</a>.</span> <span class="date-container"><i>(<span class="date">January 2013</span>)</i></span><span class="hide-when-compact"><i> (<small><a href="/wiki/Help:Maintenance_template_removal" title="Help:Maintenance template removal">Learn how and when to remove this message</a></small>)</i></span></div></td></tr></tbody></table><p> It seems to me that leaving the tag for so long on the article undermines not only its integrity but the credibility of Wikipedia as a whole. Cheers! (glad the # of drama free days is approaching 2 months) --<a href="/wiki/User:Beth_Wellington" title="User:Beth Wellington">Beth Wellington</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beth_Wellington" title="User talk:Beth Wellington">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Beth_Wellington-2014-06-05T20:24:00.000Z-Navaho_language" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:24, 5 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beth_Wellington-2014-06-05T20:24:00.000Z-Navaho_language"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Beth_Wellington-2014-06-05T20:24:00.000Z-Navaho_language"></span> </p><p>Where did you find the info on the Western Apache language? I just found a youtube video that explains the whole alphabet. --Fdomanico51997 (talk) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Jemez_and_Bell_(1993)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jemez_and_Bell_(1993)-2014-03-12T13:45:00.000Z"><span id="Jemez_and_Bell_.281993.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jemez_and_Bell_(1993)-2014-03-12T13:45:00.000Z"></span>Jemez and Bell (1993)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jemez_and_Bell_(1993)-2014-03-12T13:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Jemez and Bell (1993)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joeystanley-2014-03-12T13:45:00.000Z-Jemez_and_Bell_(1993)"></span>Hi. A while ago, you added Bell (1993) to the <a href="/wiki/Jemez_language" title="Jemez language">Jemez language</a> article in the bibliography section. I don't have access to this reference. If you do, and have some time, the page could really benefit from some help. Just whenever you get around to it. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Joeystanley" title="User:Joeystanley">Joeystanley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joeystanley" title="User talk:Joeystanley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Joeystanley-2014-03-12T13:45:00.000Z-Jemez_and_Bell_(1993)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 12 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joeystanley-2014-03-12T13:45:00.000Z-Jemez_and_Bell_(1993)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joeystanley-2014-03-12T13:45:00.000Z-Jemez_and_Bell_(1993)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Map_Request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Map_Request-2010-04-15T17:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Map_Request-2010-04-15T17:19:00.000Z"></span>Map Request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Map_Request-2010-04-15T17:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Map Request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vedrfolnir-2010-04-15T17:19:00.000Z-Map_Request"></span>Hello, I noticed your fine map work for the <a href="/wiki/Ahtna_language" title="Ahtna language">Ahtna language</a> and <a href="/wiki/Tlingit_language" title="Tlingit language">Tlingit language</a> and was worndering if you might be up to the task of making one for the <a href="/wiki/Eyak_language" title="Eyak language">Eyak language</a>. I think it would greatly add to the article. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Vedrfolnir" title="User:Vedrfolnir">Vedrfolnir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vedrfolnir" title="User talk:Vedrfolnir">talk</a>) 17:19, 15 April 2010 (UTC) HI, I AM LOOKING FOR MY PEOPLE, AND EVERY HISTORIAN WITH FAMILY TREES AND COLLEGES CANNOT FIND MY PPL BEFORE WOUNDED KNEE. BRANDY(FLYING HAWK)MEEKS meeksbrandy96@gmail.com <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.171.106.206" title="Special:Contributions/24.171.106.206">24.171.106.206</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:24.171.106.206&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:24.171.106.206 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Vedrfolnir-2010-04-15T17:19:00.000Z-Map_Request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:04, 6 February 2011 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vedrfolnir-2010-04-15T17:19:00.000Z-Map_Request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vedrfolnir-2010-04-15T17:19:00.000Z-Map_Request"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you-2013-01-27T02:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you-2013-01-27T02:38:00.000Z"></span>Thank you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you-2013-01-27T02:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Thank you"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vkil-2013-01-27T02:38:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span>I have a passing interest in linguistics, and I recently came across some of your older contributions and edits. I am surprised at the depth and extent of your contributions, and I think what you have added to WP is tremendous. I am afraid that you have left WP without proper acknowledgement, I hope you continue your research and interest into languages, especially Native American. <a href="/wiki/User:Vkil" title="User:Vkil">Edgar Vekilnik, Jr.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vkil" title="User talk:Vkil">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Vkil-2013-01-27T02:38:00.000Z-Thank_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:38, 27 January 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vkil-2013-01-27T02:38:00.000Z-Thank_you"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vkil-2013-01-27T02:38:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Intensifier" data-mw-thread-id="h-Intensifier-2009-12-02T04:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Intensifier-2009-12-02T04:00:00.000Z"></span>Intensifier<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Intensifier-2009-12-02T04:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Intensifier"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keith_Cascio-2010-01-30T22:16:00.000Z-Intensifier"></span>Again, please see my reply at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Intensifier" title="Talk:Intensifier">Talk:Intensifier</a>. – <a href="/wiki/User:Keith_Cascio" title="User:Keith Cascio">Keith Cascio</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Keith_Cascio" title="User talk:Keith Cascio">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Keith_Cascio-2010-01-30T22:16:00.000Z-Intensifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keith_Cascio-2010-01-30T22:16:00.000Z-Intensifier"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keith_Cascio-2010-01-30T22:16:00.000Z-Intensifier"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keith_Cascio-2009-12-02T04:00:00.000Z-Intensifier"></span>Please see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Intensifier" title="Talk:Intensifier">Talk:Intensifier</a>. – <a href="/wiki/User:Keith_Cascio" title="User:Keith Cascio">Keith Cascio</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Keith_Cascio" title="User talk:Keith Cascio">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Keith_Cascio-2009-12-02T04:00:00.000Z-Intensifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 2 December 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keith_Cascio-2009-12-02T04:00:00.000Z-Intensifier"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keith_Cascio-2009-12-02T04:00:00.000Z-Intensifier"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Optimality_Theory" data-mw-thread-id="h-Optimality_Theory-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Optimality_Theory-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z"></span>Optimality Theory<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Optimality_Theory-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Optimality Theory"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Solejheyen-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z-Optimality_Theory"></span>Hello, </p><p>Why did you turn back my contributions on <a href="/wiki/Optimality_Theory" class="mw-redirect" title="Optimality Theory">Optimality Theory</a> ("because <a href="/wiki/Regressive_assimilation" class="mw-redirect" title="Regressive assimilation">regressive assimilation</a> of the final segment always applies first after /ɪ/-insertion, so that it prevents other rules from applying; see also <a href="/wiki/Bleeding_order" title="Bleeding order">bleeding order</a>")? There 's nothing wrong with this approach, it's just another version of classic order ranking. Greets, <a href="/wiki/User:Solejheyen" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Solejheyen">Solejheyen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Solejheyen" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Solejheyen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Solejheyen-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z-Optimality_Theory" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:16, 30 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Solejheyen-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z-Optimality_Theory"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Solejheyen-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z-Optimality_Theory"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-31T02:55:00.000Z-Solejheyen-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z"></span>hi.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>so, we should talk about this on the OT page. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-31T02:55:00.000Z-Solejheyen-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:55, 31 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-31T02:55:00.000Z-Solejheyen-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-31T02:55:00.000Z-Solejheyen-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-31T03:10:00.000Z-Solejheyen-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z"></span>see: <a href="/wiki/Talk:Optimality_theory#rule_ordering_revert" title="Talk:Optimality theory">Talk:Optimality theory#rule ordering revert</a> – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-31T03:10:00.000Z-Solejheyen-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:10, 31 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-31T03:10:00.000Z-Solejheyen-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-31T03:10:00.000Z-Solejheyen-2009-05-30T18:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hi!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hi!-2009-05-18T19:31:00.000Z"><span id="Hi.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hi!-2009-05-18T19:31:00.000Z"></span>Hi!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hi!-2009-05-18T19:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Hi!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CJLippert-2009-05-18T19:31:00.000Z-Hi!"></span>As of late, our paths on Wikipedia have not crossed. I just wanted to let you know that I do think of your contributions. Be well. <a href="/wiki/User:CJLippert" title="User:CJLippert">CJLippert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CJLippert" title="User talk:CJLippert">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-CJLippert-2009-05-18T19:31:00.000Z-Hi!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 18 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CJLippert-2009-05-18T19:31:00.000Z-Hi!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CJLippert-2009-05-18T19:31:00.000Z-Hi!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-22T20:32:00.000Z-CJLippert-2009-05-18T19:31:00.000Z"></span>hi.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>i dont have so much time these days to edit. I hope youre well, too.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>take care – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-22T20:32:00.000Z-CJLippert-2009-05-18T19:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-22T20:32:00.000Z-CJLippert-2009-05-18T19:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-22T20:32:00.000Z-CJLippert-2009-05-18T19:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Color_term_vs_name" data-mw-thread-id="h-Color_term_vs_name-2009-03-22T03:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Color_term_vs_name-2009-03-22T03:16:00.000Z"></span>Color term vs name<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Color_term_vs_name-2009-03-22T03:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Color term vs name"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PaleAqua-2009-03-22T03:16:00.000Z-Color_term_vs_name"></span>I revert your move of color name to color term since the page covers names and not terms such as value, lightness, tone, shade, etc. <a href="/wiki/User:PaleAqua" title="User:PaleAqua">PaleAqua</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PaleAqua" title="User talk:PaleAqua">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-PaleAqua-2009-03-22T03:16:00.000Z-Color_term_vs_name" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PaleAqua-2009-03-22T03:16:00.000Z-Color_term_vs_name"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PaleAqua-2009-03-22T03:16:00.000Z-Color_term_vs_name"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-03-22T04:04:00.000Z-PaleAqua-2009-03-22T03:16:00.000Z"></span>you actually reverted more than that. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2009-03-22T04:04:00.000Z-PaleAqua-2009-03-22T03:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-03-22T04:04:00.000Z-PaleAqua-2009-03-22T03:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-03-22T04:04:00.000Z-PaleAqua-2009-03-22T03:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PaleAqua-2009-03-22T07:00:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2009-03-22T04:04:00.000Z"></span>Reverting my reverts now. <a href="/wiki/User:PaleAqua" title="User:PaleAqua">PaleAqua</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PaleAqua" title="User talk:PaleAqua">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-PaleAqua-2009-03-22T07:00:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2009-03-22T04:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PaleAqua-2009-03-22T07:00:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2009-03-22T04:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PaleAqua-2009-03-22T07:00:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2009-03-22T04:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="English_grammar" data-mw-thread-id="h-English_grammar-2009-04-14T21:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-English_grammar-2009-04-14T21:40:00.000Z"></span>English grammar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-English_grammar-2009-04-14T21:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: English grammar"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fowler&fowler-2009-04-14T21:40:00.000Z-English_grammar"></span>As the primary author, would you like to weigh in at <a href="/wiki/Talk:English_grammar#Suggest_splitting" title="Talk:English grammar">Talk:English_grammar#Suggest_splitting</a>? Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Fowler%26fowler" title="User:Fowler&fowler"><span style="color:#B8860B;">Fowler&fowler</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fowler%26fowler" title="User talk:Fowler&fowler"><span style="color:#708090;">«Talk»</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Fowler&fowler-2009-04-14T21:40:00.000Z-English_grammar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:40, 14 April 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fowler&fowler-2009-04-14T21:40:00.000Z-English_grammar"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fowler&fowler-2009-04-14T21:40:00.000Z-English_grammar"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-22T20:34:00.000Z-Fowler&fowler-2009-04-14T21:40:00.000Z"></span>hi.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>feel free to edit and split. I'm sure it will be fun. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-22T20:34:00.000Z-Fowler&fowler-2009-04-14T21:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 22 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-22T20:34:00.000Z-Fowler&fowler-2009-04-14T21:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2009-05-22T20:34:00.000Z-Fowler&fowler-2009-04-14T21:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Page_name_moving" data-mw-thread-id="h-Page_name_moving"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Page_name_moving"></span>Page name moving<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Page_name_moving"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Page name moving"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Sir, the page <a href="/wiki/Kanglei_mythology" class="mw-disambig" title="Kanglei mythology">Kanglei mythology</a>, already has redirects, <a href="/wiki/Manipuri_mythology" class="mw-redirect" title="Manipuri mythology">Manipuri mythology</a> and <a href="/wiki/Meitei_mythology" title="Meitei mythology">Meitei mythology</a>, but the mythology is about <a href="/wiki/Meitei_people" title="Meitei people">Meitei people</a>, speaking <a href="/wiki/Meitei_language" title="Meitei language">Meitei language</a>, so can the page name be moved back to <a href="/wiki/Meitei_mythology" title="Meitei mythology">Meitei mythology</a> itself, or a new one <a href="/w/index.php?title=Meitei_Mythology&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Meitei Mythology (page does not exist)">Meitei Mythology</a>? If possible, could you kindly proceed to it? </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Replaceable_fair_use_Image:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Replaceable_fair_use_Image:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg-2009-05-20T02:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Replaceable_fair_use_Image:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg-2009-05-20T02:13:00.000Z"></span>Replaceable fair use Image:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Replaceable_fair_use_Image:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg-2009-05-20T02:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Replaceable fair use Image:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bkell-2009-05-20T02:13:00.000Z-Replaceable_fair_use_Image:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_warning_pn.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Replaceable fair use"><img alt="Replaceable fair use" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/32px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="32" height="28" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/64px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></a><figcaption>Replaceable fair use</figcaption></figure> <p>Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg (page does not exist)">Image:Navajolang-readingAdahooniligii.jpg</a></b>. 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Point is, I guess, is this a map of language areas, or of territorial identity/claims? If the latter both Nisga'a and Gitxsan territories extend quite a bit further inland/north</li> <li>discrete boundaries are always an issue as many people's lands overlap; Nisga'a and Gitxsan claims overlap with those of the Tahltan, for instance; but more to the point, The Taku River-Atlin Lake-Teslin Lake area is subjet to the "rule" of two <i>kwaans</i> of the Tlingit - <i>Aa tlein kwaan</i> and <i>Desleen kwaan</i> or something like that; their <a href="/wiki/Band_government" title="Band government">band government</a> is the <a href="/wiki/Taku_River_Tlingit_First_Nation" title="Taku River Tlingit First Nation">Taku River Tlingit First Nation</a> and ethnigraphically they are known as the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Inland_Tlinkit&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Inland Tlinkit (page does not exist)">Inland Tlinkit</a>, and they're found right up into the Yukon (kinda "top dog" in the pecking order in Whistehorse, as I was told bup there....).; those areas should at least be stripe-shaded, given the overlaping calims with the Tucthcone/Tahltan/Tagish.</li> <li>There's a good map of Tlingit <i>kwaanas</i> on one of the refs on the <a href="/wiki/History_of_the_Tlingit" title="History of the Tlingit">History of the Tlingit</a> page, I'll see if i can find it.<a href="/wiki/User:Skookum1" title="User:Skookum1">Skookum1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skookum1" title="User talk:Skookum1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Skookum1-2009-10-21T17:11:00.000Z-Issues_with_Tlingit_map" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:11, 21 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skookum1-2009-10-21T17:11:00.000Z-Issues_with_Tlingit_map"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skookum1-2009-10-21T17:11:00.000Z-Issues_with_Tlingit_map"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="NowCommons:_File:Mono_home.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-NowCommons:_File:Mono_home.jpg-2009-11-12T04:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-NowCommons:_File:Mono_home.jpg-2009-11-12T04:53:00.000Z"></span>NowCommons: File:Mono home.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-NowCommons:_File:Mono_home.jpg-2009-11-12T04:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: NowCommons: File:Mono home.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Mono_home.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Mono home.jpg (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Erwin85Bot-2009-11-12T04:53:00.000Z-NowCommons:_File:Mono_home.jpg"></span>File:Mono home.jpg</a> is now available on <a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Commons" title="Wikimedia Commons">Wikimedia Commons</a> as <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mono_home.jpg" class="extiw" title="commons:File:Mono home.jpg">Commons:File:Mono home.jpg</a>. 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Thank you for your contributions. I am a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOT">bot</a> alerting you that <b>1</b> of the articles that you created is tagged as an<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Sources" title="Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons"> Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person</a>. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">biographies of living persons</a> policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VERRIFY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VERRIFY">verifiability</a>, all biographies should be based on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RELIABLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RELIABLE">reliable sources</a>. 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Ross</a> - <small><span class="plainlinks"><i>Find sources:</i> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?as_eq=wikipedia&q=%22John+R.+Ross%22">Google</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?tbs=bks:1&q=%22John+R.+Ross%22+-wikipedia">books</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&q=%22John+R.+Ross%22+-wikipedia&tbs=ar:1">news</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22John+R.+Ross%22">scholar</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&tbs=sur:fmc&tbm=isch&q=%22John+R.+Ross%22+-site:wikipedia.org+-site:wikimedia.org">free images</a> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&cx=007734830908295939403%3Agalkqgoksq0&cof=FORID%3A13%3BAH%3Aleft%3BCX%3AWikipedia%2520Reference%2520Search&q=%22John+R.+Ross%22">WP refs</a>) <b>·</b> <span title="Free English newspaper sources" style="border-bottom: 1px dotted;"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Free_English_newspaper_sources">FENS</a></span> <b>·</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jstor.org/action/doBasicSearch?Query=%22John+R.+Ross%22&acc=on&wc=on">JSTOR</a> <b>·</b> <span title="The Wikipedia Library" style="border-bottom: 1px dotted;"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/search/?q=%22John+R.+Ross%22">TWL</a></span></span></small></li></ol> <p>Thanks!--<a href="/wiki/User:DASHBot" title="User:DASHBot">DASHBot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DASHBot" title="User talk:DASHBot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-DASHBot-2010-01-15T05:14:00.000Z-Unreferenced_BLPs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:14, 15 January 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DASHBot-2010-01-15T05:14:00.000Z-Unreferenced_BLPs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DASHBot-2010-01-15T05:14:00.000Z-Unreferenced_BLPs"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hi,_would_you_be_so_kind_as_to_give_us_support!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hi,_would_you_be_so_kind_as_to_give_us_support!-2010-06-15T07:53:00.000Z"><span id="Hi.2C_would_you_be_so_kind_as_to_give_us_support.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hi,_would_you_be_so_kind_as_to_give_us_support!-2010-06-15T07:53:00.000Z"></span>Hi, would you be so kind as to give us support!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hi,_would_you_be_so_kind_as_to_give_us_support!-2010-06-15T07:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Hi, would you be so kind as to give us support!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Capsot-2010-06-15T07:53:00.000Z-Hi,_would_you_be_so_kind_as_to_give_us_support!"></span>Hello, I hope you are doing fine and I sincerely apologize for this intrusion. My name is Claudi Balaguer/Capsot (from the Catalan Viquipèdia or the Occitan Wikiccionari) I have just read your profile and you seem a very learned person and interested in (small) languages and cultures (talking to linguists may be fun sometimes...) so maybe I am not bothering you and you will help us... I'm part of an association "Amical de la Viquipèdia" which is trying to get some recognition as a Catalan Chapter but this has not been approved up to this moment because it does not belong to one state. We would appreciate your support, visible if you stick this on your first page: <a href="/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_CAT" title="Template:Wikimedia CAT">Wikimedia CAT</a>. Thanks again, wishing you a great summer, take care! <a href="/wiki/User:Capsot" title="User:Capsot">Capsot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Capsot" title="User talk:Capsot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Capsot-2010-06-15T07:53:00.000Z-Hi,_would_you_be_so_kind_as_to_give_us_support!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:53, 15 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Capsot-2010-06-15T07:53:00.000Z-Hi,_would_you_be_so_kind_as_to_give_us_support!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Capsot-2010-06-15T07:53:00.000Z-Hi,_would_you_be_so_kind_as_to_give_us_support!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WikiProject_Theoretical_Linguistics" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiProject_Theoretical_Linguistics-2010-06-19T17:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiProject_Theoretical_Linguistics-2010-06-19T17:54:00.000Z"></span>WikiProject Theoretical Linguistics<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiProject_Theoretical_Linguistics-2010-06-19T17:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: WikiProject Theoretical Linguistics"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cnilep-2010-06-19T17:54:00.000Z-WikiProject_Theoretical_Linguistics"></span>Hello, I am trying to bring <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Theoretical_Linguistics" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Theoretical Linguistics">WP:WikiProject Theoretical Linguistics</a> back to semi-active status. Toward that end, I have moved all members who have not posted to the project page in the past six months to a section, "Inactive members." If you wish to be active in the project, I hope you will move your name back to the section, "Members." You may also remove your name if you are no longer interested in the project. Thanks, and happy editing, <a href="/wiki/User:Cnilep" title="User:Cnilep">Cnilep</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cnilep" title="User talk:Cnilep">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Cnilep-2010-06-19T17:54:00.000Z-WikiProject_Theoretical_Linguistics" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 19 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cnilep-2010-06-19T17:54:00.000Z-WikiProject_Theoretical_Linguistics"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cnilep-2010-06-19T17:54:00.000Z-WikiProject_Theoretical_Linguistics"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Chiricahua_Ft._Sill_seal.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Chiricahua_Ft._Sill_seal.jpg-2010-06-29T11:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Chiricahua_Ft._Sill_seal.jpg-2010-06-29T11:23:00.000Z"></span>Fair use rationale for File:Chiricahua Ft. Sill seal.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Chiricahua_Ft._Sill_seal.jpg-2010-06-29T11:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Fair use rationale for File:Chiricahua Ft. 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Sill seal.jpg (page does not exist)">File:Chiricahua Ft. Sill seal.jpg</a></b>. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Fair use">fair use</a> but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Chiricahua_Ft._Sill_seal.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Chiricahua Ft. Sill seal.jpg (page does not exist)">the file description page</a> and edit it to include a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_use_rationale_guideline" title="Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline">fair use rationale</a>. </p><p>If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ish_ishwar" title="Special:Contributions/Ish ishwar">my contributions</a>" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Images.2FMedia" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">criteria for speedy deletion</a>. If you have any questions please ask them at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Media copyright questions page</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Sfan00_IMG" title="User:Sfan00 IMG">Sfan00 IMG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sfan00_IMG" title="User talk:Sfan00 IMG">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Sfan00_IMG-2010-06-29T11:23:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Chiricahua_Ft._Sill_seal.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:23, 29 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sfan00_IMG-2010-06-29T11:23:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Chiricahua_Ft._Sill_seal.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sfan00_IMG-2010-06-29T11:23:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Chiricahua_Ft._Sill_seal.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Munsee_language" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Munsee_language-2010-08-18T17:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Munsee_language-2010-08-18T17:37:00.000Z"></span>The Munsee language<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Munsee_language-2010-08-18T17:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: The Munsee language"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightscream-2010-08-18T17:37:00.000Z-The_Munsee_language"></span>Hi. Can you point me to the source you and Nikater relied on when you created <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Delaware01.png">this map</a>? I'm involved in an editorial dispute with another editor who insists that material based on that map is wrong. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Nightscream" title="User:Nightscream">Nightscream</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightscream" title="User talk:Nightscream">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Nightscream-2010-08-18T17:37:00.000Z-The_Munsee_language" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 18 August 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightscream-2010-08-18T17:37:00.000Z-The_Munsee_language"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightscream-2010-08-18T17:37:00.000Z-The_Munsee_language"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2010-08-18T20:18:00.000Z-Nightscream-2010-08-18T17:37:00.000Z"></span>Hi.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I didnt create the map. Rather it seems to have been based on <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lenapehoking.png">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lenapehoking.png</a>. I dont know why I'm listed as co-author.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>The images I created are here: <a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ishwar">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ishwar</a>. All maps list their source unless later editors have removed this information (several folks have converted the png files to svg & sometimes they didnt indicate that I created the png source file.) Anyone who is creating a detailed map should not be using my maps of the entire north American continent since these maps lack detail and may be the result of a compromise of changing boundaries of tribes over time. The map sources that I used for these entire continent maps try show the distribution of tribes at first European contact which may differ from tribe to tribe.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>If you want accurate information, I suggest starting with the <i>Handbook of North American Indians</i> Northeast volume. This volume was published several years, so the information may (or may not) be outdated by more current research. I cant say for sure since I dont know anything about northeastern Indians. (I'm just a linguist that happens to have specialist knowledge in Apachean languages, which are at the opposite end of the continent.)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>– <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2010-08-18T20:18:00.000Z-Nightscream-2010-08-18T17:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 18 August 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2010-08-18T20:18:00.000Z-Nightscream-2010-08-18T17:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2010-08-18T20:18:00.000Z-Nightscream-2010-08-18T17:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg-2010-10-23T11:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg-2010-10-23T11:27:00.000Z"></span>Fair use rationale for File:Harry Hoijer.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg-2010-10-23T11:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Fair use rationale for File:Harry Hoijer.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sfan00_IMG-2010-10-23T11:27:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Copyright-problem.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/64px-Copyright-problem.svg.png" decoding="async" width="64" height="69" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/96px-Copyright-problem.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/128px-Copyright-problem.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="120"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Thanks for uploading or contributing to <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Harry Hoijer.jpg (page does not exist)">File:Harry Hoijer.jpg</a></b>. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Fair use">fair use</a> but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Harry Hoijer.jpg (page does not exist)">the file description page</a> and edit it to include a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_use_rationale_guideline" title="Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline">fair use rationale</a>. </p><p>If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ish_ishwar" title="Special:Contributions/Ish ishwar">my contributions</a>" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Images.2FMedia" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">criteria for speedy deletion</a>. If you have any questions please ask them at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Media copyright questions page</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Sfan00_IMG" title="User:Sfan00 IMG">Sfan00 IMG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sfan00_IMG" title="User talk:Sfan00 IMG">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Sfan00_IMG-2010-10-23T11:27:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:27, 23 October 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sfan00_IMG-2010-10-23T11:27:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sfan00_IMG-2010-10-23T11:27:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg_2-2010-11-28T19:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg_2-2010-11-28T19:10:00.000Z"></span>Fair use rationale for File:Harry Hoijer.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg_2-2010-11-28T19:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Fair use rationale for File:Harry Hoijer.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SchuminWeb-2010-11-28T19:10:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg_2"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Copyright-problem.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/64px-Copyright-problem.svg.png" decoding="async" width="64" height="69" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/96px-Copyright-problem.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/128px-Copyright-problem.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="120"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Thanks for uploading or contributing to <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Harry Hoijer.jpg (page does not exist)">File:Harry Hoijer.jpg</a></b>. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fair_use" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Fair use">fair use</a> but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Harry Hoijer.jpg (page does not exist)">the file description page</a> and edit it to include a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_use_rationale_guideline" title="Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline">fair use rationale</a>. </p><p>If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ish_ishwar" title="Special:Contributions/Ish ishwar">my contributions</a>" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Images.2FMedia" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">criteria for speedy deletion</a>. If you have any questions please ask them at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Media copyright questions page</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:SchuminWeb" title="User:SchuminWeb">SchuminWeb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SchuminWeb" title="User talk:SchuminWeb">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-SchuminWeb-2010-11-28T19:10:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 28 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SchuminWeb-2010-11-28T19:10:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SchuminWeb-2010-11-28T19:10:00.000Z-Fair_use_rationale_for_File:Harry_Hoijer.jpg_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?-2010-12-15T01:03:00.000Z"><span id="What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?-2010-12-15T01:03:00.000Z"></span>What was your reason for reverting me edit?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?-2010-12-15T01:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: What was your reason for reverting me edit?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mahmudmasri-2010-12-15T01:03:00.000Z-What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?"></span>Refer to that talk page: <a href="/wiki/Talk:Americanist_phonetic_notation#Why_is_it_correct_to_tag_non-IPA_symbols_as_IPA?" title="Talk:Americanist phonetic notation">Talk:Americanist_phonetic_notation#Why is it correct to tag non-IPA symbols as IPA?</a>. <small>--<a href="/wiki/User:Mahmudmasri" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Mahmudmasri">Mahmudmasri</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mahmudmasri" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Mahmudmasri">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Mahmudmasri-2010-12-15T01:03:00.000Z-What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:03, 15 December 2010 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mahmudmasri-2010-12-15T01:03:00.000Z-What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mahmudmasri-2010-12-15T01:03:00.000Z-What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mahmudmasri-2010-12-17T05:54:00.000Z-What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?"></span>Still no answer? <small>--<a href="/wiki/User:Mahmudmasri" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Mahmudmasri">Mahmudmasri</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mahmudmasri" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Mahmudmasri">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Mahmudmasri-2010-12-17T05:54:00.000Z-What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:54, 17 December 2010 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mahmudmasri-2010-12-17T05:54:00.000Z-What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mahmudmasri-2010-12-17T05:54:00.000Z-What_was_your_reason_for_reverting_me_edit?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mongolian_language" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mongolian_language-2011-04-07T17:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mongolian_language-2011-04-07T17:26:00.000Z"></span>Mongolian language<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mongolian_language-2011-04-07T17:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Mongolian language"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rcsprinter123-2011-04-07T17:26:00.000Z-Mongolian_language"></span>An article that you have been involved in editing, <a href="/wiki/Mongolian_language" title="Mongolian language">Mongolian language</a> has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments <a href="/wiki/Talk:Mongolian_language/GA2" title="Talk:Mongolian language/GA2">good article reassessment page</a> . If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Rcsprinter123" title="User:Rcsprinter123"><b><span style="color:#0000f1">Rcsprinter</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rcsprinter123" title="User talk:Rcsprinter123"><span style="color:blue;"><sup>Gimme a message</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Rcsprinter123-2011-04-07T17:26:00.000Z-Mongolian_language" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 7 April 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rcsprinter123-2011-04-07T17:26:00.000Z-Mongolian_language"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rcsprinter123-2011-04-07T17:26:00.000Z-Mongolian_language"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Non-Free_rationale_for_File:Jaco_Pastorius_-_Donna_Lee_melody_excerpt.ogg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Non-Free_rationale_for_File:Jaco_Pastorius_-_Donna_Lee_melody_excerpt.ogg-2011-06-24T21:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Non-Free_rationale_for_File:Jaco_Pastorius_-_Donna_Lee_melody_excerpt.ogg-2011-06-24T21:28:00.000Z"></span>Non-Free rationale for File:Jaco Pastorius - Donna Lee melody excerpt.ogg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Non-Free_rationale_for_File:Jaco_Pastorius_-_Donna_Lee_melody_excerpt.ogg-2011-06-24T21:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Non-Free rationale for File:Jaco Pastorius - Donna Lee melody excerpt.ogg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sfan00_IMG-2011-06-24T21:28:00.000Z-Non-Free_rationale_for_File:Jaco_Pastorius_-_Donna_Lee_melody_excerpt.ogg"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/64px-Copyright-problem.svg.png" decoding="async" width="64" height="69" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/96px-Copyright-problem.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/128px-Copyright-problem.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="120"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Thanks for uploading or contributing to <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Jaco_Pastorius_-_Donna_Lee_melody_excerpt.ogg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Jaco Pastorius - Donna Lee melody excerpt.ogg (page does not exist)">File:Jaco Pastorius - Donna Lee melody excerpt.ogg</a></b>. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NFCC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NFCC">Non-Free content criteria </a> but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia is acceptable. Please go to <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Jaco_Pastorius_-_Donna_Lee_melody_excerpt.ogg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Jaco Pastorius - Donna Lee melody excerpt.ogg (page does not exist)">the file description page</a> and edit it to include a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_use_rationale_guideline" title="Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline">Non-Free rationale</a>. </p><p>If you have uploaded other Non-Free media, consider checking that you have specified the Non-Free rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ish_ishwar" title="Special:Contributions/Ish ishwar">my contributions</a>" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Images.2FMedia" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">criteria for speedy deletion</a>. If the file is already gone, you can still make a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion" title="Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion">request for undeletion</a> and ask for a chance to fix the problem. If you have any questions please ask them at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Media copyright questions page</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Sfan00_IMG" title="User:Sfan00 IMG">Sfan00 IMG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sfan00_IMG" title="User talk:Sfan00 IMG">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Sfan00_IMG-2011-06-24T21:28:00.000Z-Non-Free_rationale_for_File:Jaco_Pastorius_-_Donna_Lee_melody_excerpt.ogg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 24 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sfan00_IMG-2011-06-24T21:28:00.000Z-Non-Free_rationale_for_File:Jaco_Pastorius_-_Donna_Lee_melody_excerpt.ogg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sfan00_IMG-2011-06-24T21:28:00.000Z-Non-Free_rationale_for_File:Jaco_Pastorius_-_Donna_Lee_melody_excerpt.ogg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Zuni" data-mw-thread-id="h-Zuni-2011-12-21T10:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Zuni-2011-12-21T10:10:00.000Z"></span>Zuni<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Zuni-2011-12-21T10:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Zuni"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dhegiha-2011-12-21T10:10:00.000Z-Zuni"></span>Hi Ish ishwar </p><p>I've seen that you known the Zuni language. I have a question for you about its orthography. I've created on the french Wiktionary <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/wattsita">wattsita</a> for dog, transcribed from a paper by Lynn Nichols in the IJAL. However I've seen in a link (Zuni Language) a wordlist where it is wattsida. Is there a rule for writing -t- and -p- intervocally as -d- and -b-? Thanx. <a href="/wiki/User:Dhegiha" title="User:Dhegiha">Dhegiha</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dhegiha" title="User talk:Dhegiha">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Dhegiha-2011-12-21T10:10:00.000Z-Zuni" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:10, 21 December 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dhegiha-2011-12-21T10:10:00.000Z-Zuni"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dhegiha-2011-12-21T10:10:00.000Z-Zuni"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="MSU_Interview" data-mw-thread-id="h-MSU_Interview-2012-02-15T22:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-MSU_Interview-2012-02-15T22:56:00.000Z"></span>MSU Interview<span data-mw-comment-end="h-MSU_Interview-2012-02-15T22:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: MSU Interview"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chlopeck-2012-02-15T22:56:00.000Z-MSU_Interview"></span>Dear Ish ishwar, </p><p>My name is Jonathan Obar <a href="/wiki/User:Jaobar" title="User:Jaobar">user:Jaobar</a>, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_82#Learn_to_be_a_Wikipedia_Administrator_-_New_class_at_MSU" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 82">HERE</a>, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students. </p><p><br/> So a few things about the interviews: </p> <ul><li>Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.</li> <li>Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)</li> <li>All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.</li> <li>All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.</li> <li>The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.</li></ul> <p><br/> Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name<a href="/wiki/User:Jaobar/Admins_to_Interview_List_1" title="User:Jaobar/Admins to Interview List 1">HERE</a> instead. </p><p>If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you. </p><p>Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you. </p><p>Sincerely, </p><p>Jonathan Obar --<a href="/wiki/User:Jaobar" title="User:Jaobar">Jaobar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jaobar" title="User talk:Jaobar">talk</a>) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Chlopeck" title="User:Chlopeck">Chlopeck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chlopeck" title="User talk:Chlopeck">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Chlopeck" title="Special:Contributions/Chlopeck">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Chlopeck-2012-02-15T22:56:00.000Z-MSU_Interview" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:56, 15 February 2012 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chlopeck-2012-02-15T22:56:00.000Z-MSU_Interview"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chlopeck-2012-02-15T22:56:00.000Z-MSU_Interview"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Southern_Athabascan_grammar_typo?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Southern_Athabascan_grammar_typo?-2012-03-22T10:01:00.000Z"><span id="Southern_Athabascan_grammar_typo.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Southern_Athabascan_grammar_typo?-2012-03-22T10:01:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Southern_Athabascan_grammar" title="Southern Athabascan grammar">Southern Athabascan grammar</a> typo?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Southern_Athabascan_grammar_typo?-2012-03-22T10:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Southern Athabascan grammar typo?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-24.28.17.231-2012-03-22T10:01:00.000Z-Southern_Athabascan_grammar_typo?"></span>I think there is a misspelling in your original article <a href="/wiki/Southern_Athabascan_grammar" title="Southern Athabascan grammar">Southern Athabascan grammar</a>. Search for "betwitch" in that article. Since the three uses are near the word "witch", I think you meant to use the word "bewitch"? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.28.17.231" title="Special:Contributions/24.28.17.231">24.28.17.231</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:24.28.17.231" title="User talk:24.28.17.231">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-24.28.17.231-2012-03-22T10:01:00.000Z-Southern_Athabascan_grammar_typo?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:01, 22 March 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-24.28.17.231-2012-03-22T10:01:00.000Z-Southern_Athabascan_grammar_typo?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-24.28.17.231-2012-03-22T10:01:00.000Z-Southern_Athabascan_grammar_typo?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2012-04-23T00:42:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2012-04-23T00:42:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2012-04-23T00:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alázhlis-2012-04-23T00:42:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Kindness_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Kindness_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Kindness_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Kindness_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Kindness_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Kindness_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Kindness_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Thank you for teaching me how to pronounce ejective sounds (on the List of Phonetics Topics talk page). <a href="/wiki/User:Al%C3%A1zhlis" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Alázhlis">Alázhlis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Al%C3%A1zhlis" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Alázhlis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Alázhlis-2012-04-23T00:42:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:42, 23 April 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alázhlis-2012-04-23T00:42:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alázhlis-2012-04-23T00:42:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="June_2012" data-mw-thread-id="h-June_2012-2012-06-30T03:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-June_2012-2012-06-30T03:41:00.000Z"></span>June 2012<span data-mw-comment-end="h-June_2012-2012-06-30T03:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: June 2012"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Seb_az86556-2012-06-30T03:41:00.000Z-June_2012"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/30px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/45px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/60px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="240" data-file-height="240"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> Your recent editing history at <a href="/wiki/Navajo_language" title="Navajo language">Navajo language</a> shows that you are currently engaged in an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EDITWAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EDITWAR">edit war</a>. <b>Being involved in an edit war can result in you being <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLOCK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLOCK">blocked from editing</a></b>—especially if you violate the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3RR">three-revert rule</a>, which states that an editor must not perform more than three <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REVERT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REVERT">reverts</a> on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—<b>even if you don't violate the three-revert rule</b>—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. </p><p>To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TALK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TALK">talk page</a> to work toward making a version that represents <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> among editors. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">BRD</a> for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Noticeboards" title="Wikipedia:Noticeboards">noticeboard</a> or seek <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution">dispute resolution</a>. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Protection_policy" title="Wikipedia:Protection policy">page protection</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Seb_az86556" title="User:Seb az86556">Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Seb_az86556" title="User talk:Seb az86556">> haneʼ</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Seb_az86556-2012-06-30T03:41:00.000Z-June_2012" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:41, 30 June 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Seb_az86556-2012-06-30T03:41:00.000Z-June_2012"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Seb_az86556-2012-06-30T03:41:00.000Z-June_2012"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/" data-mw-thread-id="h-flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/-2012-09-11T01:33:00.000Z"><span id="flap_realization_of_Hopi_.2Fr.2F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/-2012-09-11T01:33:00.000Z"></span>flap realization of Hopi /r/<span data-mw-comment-end="h-flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/-2012-09-11T01:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: flap realization of Hopi /r/"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Krbeesley-2012-09-11T01:33:00.000Z-flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/"></span>Dear Ish ishwar, </p><p>It's the first time I've used a talk page, so please excuse my amateur mistakes. I note that you have contributed to the Hopi_language page, and there I see "The retroflex r varies between a retroflex fricative ... and a flap". I'd _love_ to consult with whoever has noted these flaps. I've noted these flaps (or taps) myself, especially in the village of Orayvi, and I've had trouble getting book reviewers to believe me. Did you by any chance write the part about the flaps? or do you know how I could find the author? Thanks <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Krbeesley&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Krbeesley (page does not exist)">Krbeesley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Krbeesley" title="User talk:Krbeesley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Krbeesley-2012-09-11T01:33:00.000Z-flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:33, 11 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Krbeesley-2012-09-11T01:33:00.000Z-flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Krbeesley-2012-09-11T01:33:00.000Z-flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2012-09-11T15:32:00.000Z-Krbeesley-2012-09-11T01:33:00.000Z"></span>Hi.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>You're very lucky I was logged in to Wikipedia on the same day that you wrote me this note. I rarely check Wikipedia these days.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Yes, I added probably all of the notes about Hopi phonology including that bit about /r/. Just to be clear, I've never heard Hopi in the wild. And, I don't run in Uto-Aztecan circles. (My specialist knowledge of American languages is in Athabascan, especially Apachean.)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>The only person that I know of who noted the flap realization was LaVerne Masayesva Jeanne. This appears in her dissertation (MIT, chair: Ken Hale). Here's the quote:</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>‘The sole remaining "liquid", the rhotic written /r/, is produced in a variety of ways, ranging from an extremely light tap [r] to a retroflexed, i.e. apico-domal, fricative [ẓ], with the latter allophone predominating. This consonant is voiced except in syllable-final position where it is regularly a voiceless apico-domal fricative [ṣ].’ (p. 12)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd>You can download it: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/16325">http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/16325</a></dd></dl> <dl><dd>She's alive but retired: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.unr.edu/anthropology/people/faculty/laverne-masayesva-jeanne">http://www.unr.edu/anthropology/people/faculty/laverne-masayesva-jeanne</a></dd></dl> <dl><dd>The note about Mishongnovi /r/ being weakly fricative is from ‘Moencopi variations from Whorf's Second Mesa Hopi’ by Clyde Kluckhohn & Kenneth MacLeish in <i>IJAL,</i> 21, pp. 150–156, (1955).</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Most of the phonological content in the wiki is, of course, from Whorf's grammatical sketch in that 1940s handbook.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Sorry to hear about folks doubting your hearing. Hope this info helps you.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>– <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2012-09-11T15:32:00.000Z-Krbeesley-2012-09-11T01:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:32, 11 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2012-09-11T15:32:00.000Z-Krbeesley-2012-09-11T01:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2012-09-11T15:32:00.000Z-Krbeesley-2012-09-11T01:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Krbeesley-2012-09-11T17:34:00.000Z-flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/"></span>Hello, Many thanks for your response, and the pointer to Jeanne's thesis. I've tried to get in touch with her before, but as you note, she retired about 4 years ago. I'll try again. I first became aware of the pre-vocalic tap realizations of /r/ a few years ago, in Orayvi, when an Orayvi friend heard me say "Orayvi" with the usual apico-domal fricative-sibilant [ẓ], and he _corrected_ me to say it with a tap. I now know an Orayvi woman who also uses such taps. And I've heard the taps from other Orayvis whom I don't know personally. And I have a 1964 recording of an Orayvi woman ("Mrs. Monongye") who seems to pronounce the pre-vocal /r/ as a fricative or approximant that is, however, not sibilant. (The usual [ẓ] and [ṣ] allophones are sibilant, very roughly similar to the English s in measure and sh in ship.) </p><p>I'm investigating the thesis that tap, or at least non-sibilant, allophones of pre-vocal /r/ are common in Orayvi and perhaps other "Friendly" villages (Kiqötsmovi, Upper Munqapi). Lower Munqapi, Hotvela and Paaqavi, founded by "Hostiles" after the 1906 Orayvi Split, would (I conjecture) use the more common [ẓ] allophone before a vowel. Ideally, a survey should be done, but getting permission to do linguistic work on the Hopi Reservation has been difficult for decades. Suggesting that there are linguistic differences between the traditionally Friendly and Hostile villages may also be politically incorrect. </p><p>Historical orthographies may also provide clues. In 1859-60, two Mormon missionaries (Marion Shelton and Thales Haskell) lived 4 months in Orayvi, and Shelton wrote down almost 500 Hopi words in the Deseret Alphabet, a phonemic alphabet that the Mormons were then promoting as a reform orthography for English. I'm editing this vocabulary with Dirk Elzinga of Brigham Young University. The /r/ before a vowel (there are quite a few of them) he consistently transcribed using the Deseret Alphabet R-letter, so I assume that he heard it as something clearly rhotic. (He knew and even taught Spanish, so he would have heard an alveolar tap as an R.) But the coda /r/ (only three examples in the vocabulary) he consistently transcribed using the Deseret Alphabet S-letter. (The /s/ phoneme is usually, but not always, transcribed using the Deseret Alphabet sh-as-in-ship letter. There is a Deseret Alphabet s-as-in-measure letter, but he never uses it when writing Hopi words.) His orthographical conventions suggest that he heard pre-vocalic /r/s that were rhotic, but not sibilant, and coda /r/s that were sibilant. It's highly unlikely that he perceived them as belonging to the same phoneme. These transcriptions would be consistent with pronunciations of /r/ that I hear in Orayvi today. </p><p>In 1892 a Mennonite missionary named H.R. Voth arrived in Orayvi and started studying the language. The earliest Hopi book (1916) that I've found in the Mennonite orthography uses <r> for the pre-vocalic /r/ and, it seems, <s> for the code /r/. These conventions are very similar to Marion Shelton's, and it seems unlikely that the Mennonites realized, in 1916, that they were dealing with one /r/ phoneme. By 1923, however, a subsequent Mennonite publication uses <r> for pre-vocalic /r/ but <rs> for coda /r/. So it looks like they finally realized that there was just one /r/ phoneme, but they retained the orthographical convention <rs> for the coda /r/ to reflect its sibilance. </s></p><p><s>But as I said, my ear, my scholarship and my political correctness are being questioned by a prominent reviewer, so I'm trying to be very careful. Your pointer to Jeanne's dissertation was very helpful.</s> </p><p>Thanks again and best wishes, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Krbeesley&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Krbeesley (page does not exist)">Krbeesley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Krbeesley" title="User talk:Krbeesley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Krbeesley-2012-09-11T17:34:00.000Z-flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 11 September 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Krbeesley-2012-09-11T17:34:00.000Z-flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Krbeesley-2012-09-11T17:34:00.000Z-flap_realization_of_Hopi_/r/"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets_PRIMARYTOPIC/dab_dispute_at_RM" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets_PRIMARYTOPIC/dab_dispute_at_RM-2014-03-30T17:13:00.000Z"><span id="Lillooet.2FSt.27at.27imc.2FSt.27at.27imcets_PRIMARYTOPIC.2Fdab_dispute_at_RM"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets_PRIMARYTOPIC/dab_dispute_at_RM-2014-03-30T17:13:00.000Z"></span>Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets PRIMARYTOPIC/dab dispute at RM<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets_PRIMARYTOPIC/dab_dispute_at_RM-2014-03-30T17:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets PRIMARYTOPIC/dab dispute at RM"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skookum1-2014-03-30T17:13:00.000Z-Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets_PRIMARYTOPIC/dab_dispute_at_RM"></span>Hi; I see you were one of the first people to edit the <a href="/wiki/Lillooet" title="Lillooet">Lillooet</a> title, which I have filed an RM under per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSG#Places" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSG">WP:CSG#Places</a> and a mandate to do so from CANTALK/WPCANADA....I won't say much more but <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ALillooet%2C_British_Columbia&diff=601977952&oldid=601968186">here, read AjaxSmack's oppose vote and my responses which detail the history of the article/title</a> and its supposedly competing PRIMARYTOPICS (the language and people articles). Sources are on my side, policy is too, and yet...... how I miss the early days of Wikipedia when Phaedriel and Luigizanasi and other people with broad minds and no guidelines strapped to their boots were making sense and cooperation....instead of knee-jerk opposition and completely uniformed and uncited claims...... I'm from the damn place, am something of a recognized expert on the history and geography of the area and <i>all</i> its peoples, and being treated anti-AGF by people who .... just don't know very much at all, and apparently don't want to either. </p><p>I don't know if you're among those that are hostile to me for TLDR or whatever, I'm doing my best to supply guidelines and sources...and keep my cool.....but I see you were the one who established the <a href="/wiki/St%27at%27imc" class="mw-redirect" title="St'at'imc">St'at'imc</a> and <a href="/wiki/St%27at%27imcets" class="mw-redirect" title="St'at'imcets">St'at'imcets</a> titles which were moved <i>without discussion</i> five years later; <a href="/wiki/St%27at%27imc" class="mw-redirect" title="St'at'imc">St'at'imc</a> is back where it belongs after an exhaustive RM last year, I was too tired to go after <a href="/wiki/Lillooet_language" title="Lillooet language">Lillooet language</a> to move it back to its <i>correct</i> title as my "opponent" has been vicious and obstructionist and I actually had a bout of nervous exhaustion and economic loss last year from dealing with his ongoing resistance at that RM and four others of the same kind. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSG#Places" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSG">WP:CSG#Places</a> is my mandate and there are dozens of parallel precedents/examples......but I'm being thrown loopy quantitative derisions concerning the town and more, despite all the googles lined up and policies cited.....as I've said elsewhere "when will the madness stop?". Gawd, I miss Phaedriel.......I don't know if you'll vote there, or even close the damn thing; at least I know you can read and won't throw TLDR at me....I'm tired of the animosity, the off-base resistance to obvious,citable PRIMARYTOPIC, and the reality is that the people article is differently titled, and the language article <i>should be</i>, and that they are NOT valid dabs re primarytopic as a result...... </p><p>Kwami's attempt to shut down discussion has been repeated over many RMs; <a href="/wiki/Comox" class="mw-disambig" title="Comox">Comox</a>, <a href="/wiki/Saanich" class="mw-disambig" title="Saanich">Saanich</a>, <a href="/wiki/Bella_Bella" class="mw-disambig" title="Bella Bella">Bella Bella</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Bella_Coola" class="mw-disambig" title="Bella Coola">Bella Coola</a> are also in the same boat as still-open RMs though <a href="/wiki/Sechelt" title="Sechelt">Sechelt</a>/<a href="/wiki/Shishalh" class="mw-redirect" title="Shishalh">Shishalh</a> and <a href="/wiki/Chemainus" title="Chemainus">Chemainus</a>/<a href="/wiki/Stz%27uminus_First_Nation" title="Stz'uminus First Nation">Stz'uminus</a> and others are all closed despite the same sorts of objections. His call for a discussion of guidelines has been debunked by CambridgeBayWeather, who points out that all the guidelines mandating such moves <i>already exist</i>; the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCET" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCET">WP:NCETs</a> talkpage is going nowhere and needs more input from people who actually discuss things, instead of ignore those they don't want at the party.....sorry to "rant", as you know I left Wikipedia after the 2011 Cdn election/Harper-govt articles/ads block-fiasco and when I came back several months later I discovered undiscussed and rampant changes to long-standing titles the "old consensus" within IPNA and other members about using native terminology had been upended by one-sided and ill-considered invocation of NCL, without even attempts to read and fix the articls affected; that guideline had been tailor-remade to fit the "new agenda"......and efforts by its authors to refute invocations of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCET" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCET">WP:NCET</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:UNDAB&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikipedia:UNDAB (page does not exist)">WP:UNDAB</a> and even <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TITLE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TITLE">WP:TITLE</a> have been made to assert its primacy over non-language articles..... </p><p>Nnow, since I have been threatened with a long-term block for criticizing other editors (the concept of NPA has been, it seems, extended to criticism of actions and ideas, even though directly personal attacks against myself apparently are more than OK and go unremarked upon), I better shut up huh? In any case, your thoughts whether here or on the RM about PRIMARYTOPIC of "Lillooet" as the original person who moved <a href="/wiki/Lillooet" title="Lillooet">Lillooet</a> to a redirect to <a href="/wiki/St%27at%27imc" class="mw-redirect" title="St'at'imc">St'at'imc</a> in 2005 are part of my discussion.....<a href="/wiki/User:Skookum1" title="User:Skookum1">Skookum1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skookum1" title="User talk:Skookum1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Skookum1-2014-03-30T17:13:00.000Z-Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets_PRIMARYTOPIC/dab_dispute_at_RM" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:13, 30 March 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skookum1-2014-03-30T17:13:00.000Z-Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets_PRIMARYTOPIC/dab_dispute_at_RM"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skookum1-2014-03-30T17:13:00.000Z-Lillooet/St'at'imc/St'at'imcets_PRIMARYTOPIC/dab_dispute_at_RM"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Found_this_old_comment_of_yours_from_2005" data-mw-thread-id="h-Found_this_old_comment_of_yours_from_2005-2014-04-10T11:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Found_this_old_comment_of_yours_from_2005-2014-04-10T11:19:00.000Z"></span>Found this old comment of yours from 2005<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Found_this_old_comment_of_yours_from_2005-2014-04-10T11:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Found this old comment of yours from 2005"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skookum1-2014-04-10T11:19:00.000Z-Found_this_old_comment_of_yours_from_2005"></span>Been doing RMs to remove needless "people" dabs added by Kwami and other advocates for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCL">WP:NCL</a> (and catching all kinds of heat for it, which you may have noticed it, though I've "won" 95% of these RMs). In one discussion somewhere Maunus said "we can't take Skookum1's word for it" - I think per the "old consensus" as I describe t he old set of standards our loose group of editors came to terms with back then; this quote is evidence of its existence: </p> <dl><dd><i>"ok, but the Dilzhę́’é prefer to be called Dilzhę́’é, regardless of what non-Dilzhę́’é call them. I note that other articles such as Nuxálk (= Bella Coola) & Nuxálk language use the names preferred by the peoples rather than the names more well-known to outsiders. i was just going by this convention. peace"</i></dd></dl> <p>The obstinacy about those names is frightening at times, and disturbing at others, and otherwise just a bore...but disruptive to getting correct titles back where they were before; <a href="/wiki/Bella_Coola" class="mw-disambig" title="Bella Coola">Bella Coola</a> just went through an RM, and <a href="/wiki/Bella_Bella" class="mw-disambig" title="Bella Bella">Bella Bella</a> another, closed "no consensus/not moved" despite ample evidence that the towns are the PRIMARYTOPIC (the Heiltsuk, who are the government of Bella Bella, call it that). The "old consensus" I've been meaning to draft up, but am up to my eyeballs in admin-alligators wanting to ban me; but would appreciate your input in such matters as someone "from the old consensus". Phaedriel and Luigizanasi are gone now, and others. I'm being treated as a DIVA for standing up for guidelines and our old consensus......by people who don't even read the guidelines they quote themselves, and who violate guidelines right and left in their attacks on me, or their spurious and persistent "oppose" votes. The article t hat is from <a href="/wiki/Tonto_Apache_people" class="mw-redirect" title="Tonto Apache people">Tonto Apache people</a> now has an RM on it to revert it to <a href="/wiki/Tonto_Apache" title="Tonto Apache">Tonto Apache</a>, by the way.<a href="/wiki/User:Skookum1" title="User:Skookum1">Skookum1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skookum1" title="User talk:Skookum1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Skookum1-2014-04-10T11:19:00.000Z-Found_this_old_comment_of_yours_from_2005" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:19, 10 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skookum1-2014-04-10T11:19:00.000Z-Found_this_old_comment_of_yours_from_2005"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skookum1-2014-04-10T11:19:00.000Z-Found_this_old_comment_of_yours_from_2005"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_comment-2014-05-28T06:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_comment-2014-05-28T06:47:00.000Z"></span>Request for comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_comment-2014-05-28T06:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Request for comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2014-05-28T06:47:00.000Z-Request_for_comment"></span>Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anna_Frodesiak">Anna Frodesiak</a></span>. Your comments <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#Pre-RfA_opinion_page" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)">here</a> is very much appreciated. Many thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Jim_Cartar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jim Cartar">Jim Carter</a> through <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2014-05-28T06:47:00.000Z-Request_for_comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 28 May 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2014-05-28T06:47:00.000Z-Request_for_comment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2014-05-28T06:47:00.000Z-Request_for_comment"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Welcome_back_(I_hope_youre_here_to_stay)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Welcome_back_(I_hope_youre_here_to_stay)-2014-10-02T21:59:00.000Z"><span id="Welcome_back_.28I_hope_youre_here_to_stay.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Welcome_back_(I_hope_youre_here_to_stay)-2014-10-02T21:59:00.000Z"></span>Welcome back (I hope youre here to stay)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Welcome_back_(I_hope_youre_here_to_stay)-2014-10-02T21:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Welcome back (I hope youre here to stay)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maunus-2014-10-02T21:59:00.000Z-Welcome_back_(I_hope_youre_here_to_stay)"></span>Great to see you being active on Native American language pages, I often look back through the page histories and think about the amazing amount of work you did "back in the day". There is still so much to do, and I hope you'll stick around and help doing it. For example right now <a href="/wiki/Navajo_language" title="Navajo language">Navajo language</a> is up for a GA review and it needs a lot of work in my opinion. Anyway, thanks for your work past, present and future.<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maunus" title="User talk:Maunus">User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw·</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Maunus-2014-10-02T21:59:00.000Z-Welcome_back_(I_hope_youre_here_to_stay)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:59, 2 October 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maunus-2014-10-02T21:59:00.000Z-Welcome_back_(I_hope_youre_here_to_stay)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maunus-2014-10-02T21:59:00.000Z-Welcome_back_(I_hope_youre_here_to_stay)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2014-10-02T22:18:00.000Z-Maunus-2014-10-02T21:59:00.000Z"></span>Hi. Probably not here to stay. I'm busy these days with more theoretical and experimental work in phonetics/phonology/speech perception.</dd> <dd>Yeah, back in the day, I was just kind of annoyed at the lack and quality of Indian language information on websites. I though it was cool that I could put some things from published research up and hope that some folks would do the same. It was fun. I also wanted to get a better handle on some details, specific and general, about languages I didn't know about. I didn't make very far into South America, unfortunately.</dd> <dd>If I ever get some free time, I'd like to read some of K. Pike's work on Mexican language tone systems and summarize it here. When I looked at them years ago, they appeared pretty impenetrable, beautifully complex, and not something I could figure out without a bit of effort. They have pretty much not informed the theoretical work on tonal systems. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2014-10-02T22:18:00.000Z-Maunus-2014-10-02T21:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 2 October 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2014-10-02T22:18:00.000Z-Maunus-2014-10-02T21:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2014-10-02T22:18:00.000Z-Maunus-2014-10-02T21:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maunus-2014-10-02T22:21:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2014-10-02T22:18:00.000Z"></span>That would definitely be a worthy effort, even though as you note the study of tonology of Mexican languages has advanced quite a bit since Pike, but mostly without building on Pike's work.<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maunus" title="User talk:Maunus">User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw·</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Maunus-2014-10-02T22:21:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2014-10-02T22:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 2 October 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maunus-2014-10-02T22:21:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2014-10-02T22:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maunus-2014-10-02T22:21:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2014-10-02T22:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Global_account" data-mw-thread-id="h-Global_account-2015-01-02T19:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Global_account-2015-01-02T19:53:00.000Z"></span>Global account<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Global_account-2015-01-02T19:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Global account"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DerHexer-2015-01-02T19:53:00.000Z-Global_account"></span>Hi Ish ishwar! As a <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards" class="extiw" title="m:Stewards">Steward</a> I'm involved in the upcoming <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Unified_login" class="extiw" title="m:Help:Unified login">unification</a> of all accounts organized by the Wikimedia Foundation (see <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Single_User_Login_finalisation_announcement" class="extiw" title="m:Single User Login finalisation announcement">m:Single User Login finalisation announcement</a>). By looking at <a href="/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Ish_ishwar" title="Special:CentralAuth/Ish ishwar">your account</a>, I realized that you don't have a global account yet. In order to secure your name, I recommend you to create such account on your own by submitting your password on <a href="/wiki/Special:MergeAccount" title="Special:MergeAccount">Special:MergeAccount</a> and unifying your local accounts. If you have any problems with doing that or further questions, please don't hesitate to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notifications" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Notifications">ping me</a> with {{ping|DerHexer}}. Cheers, —<a href="/wiki/User:DerHexer" title="User:DerHexer">DerHexer</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:DerHexer" title="User talk:DerHexer">(Talk)</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-DerHexer-2015-01-02T19:53:00.000Z-Global_account" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 2 January 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DerHexer-2015-01-02T19:53:00.000Z-Global_account"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DerHexer-2015-01-02T19:53:00.000Z-Global_account"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T12:54:00.000Z"><span id="ArbCom_elections_are_now_open.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T12:54:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2015" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2015">ArbCom elections are now open!</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T12:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: ArbCom elections are now open!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T12:54:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"></span>Hi,<br/> You appear to be eligible to vote in the current <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2015" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2015">Arbitration Committee election</a>. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">Arbitration Committee</a> is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFAR">arbitration process</a>. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BAN">site bans</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TBAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TBAN">topic bans</a>, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBPOL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBPOL">arbitration policy</a> describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. 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For the Election committee, <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T12:54:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:54, 23 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T12:54:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T12:54:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Shogi_strategy_and_tactics" data-mw-thread-id="h-Shogi_strategy_and_tactics-2016-04-28T22:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Shogi_strategy_and_tactics-2016-04-28T22:35:00.000Z"></span>Shogi strategy and tactics<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Shogi_strategy_and_tactics-2016-04-28T22:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Shogi strategy and tactics"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2016-04-28T22:35:00.000Z-Shogi_strategy_and_tactics"></span>Hi Ish ishwar. I saw that you've expanded <a href="/wiki/Shogi_strategy_and_tactics" class="mw-redirect" title="Shogi strategy and tactics">Shogi strategy and tactics</a> by adding more examples of different castles. Just for reference, there is a template <a href="/wiki/Template:Shogi_diagram" title="Template:Shogi diagram">Template:Shogi diagram</a> that I created which can be used for shogi diagrams. I'm not sure how well it will work since you want to use both arabic letters and kanji numerals for the ranks, but the template might be able to be tweaked to do that if it's something absolutely needed. </p><p>Also, just wanted to let you know about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/Shogi" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Shogi">Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Shogi</a>. It's something I proposed a while ago, but have sort of put aside for the time being. I'm not sure if there will ever be enough interest generated for a stand-alone Wikiproject, but you never know. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2016-04-28T22:35:00.000Z-Shogi_strategy_and_tactics" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:35, 28 April 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2016-04-28T22:35:00.000Z-Shogi_strategy_and_tactics"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2016-04-28T22:35:00.000Z-Shogi_strategy_and_tactics"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-04-28T23:05:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2016-04-28T22:35:00.000Z"></span>I had noticed that after I started with my table solution. Of course, it quickly dawned on me that it's not general enough since the kanji will need to be upside-downed to do anything besides just castles. (And, I dont know if that's even possible in html.) So, it's probably best to use your deal.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Yeah, I do like japanese numerals instead of letters. That's what Japanese books/websites use. And, all my apps, too. But, it doesn't matter really. English (and international?) uses the letter convention. So, maybe that's standard if there is a standard.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I probably can't commit to anything as far as projects. Just taking a break from real life work for the time being. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2016-04-28T23:05:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2016-04-28T22:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:05, 28 April 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-04-28T23:05:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2016-04-28T22:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-04-28T23:05:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2016-04-28T22:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2016-04-28T23:45:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-04-28T23:05:00.000Z"></span>No worries about the project. We are after all volunteers. I was just letting you know about it for reference. I posted a bit more about the diagrams on the article's talk page. I think there might be a better way to add them to the article using columns. Personally, I prefer the kanji numerals as well. It might be possible to do both if needed, but either way works for me. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2016-04-28T23:45:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-04-28T23:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:45, 28 April 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2016-04-28T23:45:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-04-28T23:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2016-04-28T23:45:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-04-28T23:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey-2016-06-01T21:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey-2016-06-01T21:49:00.000Z"></span>2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey-2016-06-01T21:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: 2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-06-01T21:49:00.000Z-2016_Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Search_Community_Survey"></span>The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has appointed a committee to lead the search for the foundation’s next Executive Director. 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I check pages listed in <a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_with_incorrect_ref_formatting" title="Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting">Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting</a> to try to fix reference errors. Recently, you <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=723271628&diff=prev">reverted</a></span> my fix to <a href="/wiki/Castle_(shogi)" title="Castle (shogi)">Castle (shogi)</a>. </p><p>If you did this because the references should be removed from the article, you have misunderstood the situation. Most likely, the article originally contained both <code><ref name="foo">...</ref></code> and one or more <code><ref name="foo"/></code> referring to it. Someone then removed the <code><ref name="foo">...</ref></code> but left the <code><ref name="foo"/></code>, which results in a <strong class="error">big red error</strong> in the article. I replaced one of the remaining <code><ref name="foo"/></code> with a copy of the <code><ref name="foo">...</ref></code>; I <i>did not</i> re-insert the reference to where it was deleted, I just replaced one of the <i>remaining</i> instances. What you need to do to fix it is to make sure you remove <b>all</b> instances of the named reference so as to not leave any <strong class="error">big red error</strong>. </p><p>If you reverted because I made an actual mistake, please be sure to also correct any reference errors in the page so I won't come back and make the same mistake again. Also, please post an error report at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AnomieBOT" title="User talk:AnomieBOT">User talk:AnomieBOT</a> so my operator can fix me! If the error is so urgent that I need to be stopped, also post a message at <a href="/wiki/User:AnomieBOT/shutoff/OrphanReferenceFixer" title="User:AnomieBOT/shutoff/OrphanReferenceFixer">User:AnomieBOT/shutoff/OrphanReferenceFixer</a>. 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You will receive another special postcard if you achieve 15 accepted articles. The Wikipedian with the highest number of accepted articles on the English Wikipedia will be honored as a "Wikipedia Asian Ambassador", and will receive a signed certificate and additional postcard.</li> <li>If you have any problems accessing or using the tool, you can submit your articles at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Asian_Month/Participants" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Asian Month/Participants">this page</a> next to your username.</li> <li>Wikipedia Asian Month is also held in other language Wikipedia and count independently. <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Asian_Month" class="extiw" title="m:Wikipedia Asian Month">Check for other language editions</a>.</li> <li>If you have any question, you can take a look at our <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Asian_Month/QA" class="extiw" title="m:Wikipedia Asian Month/QA">Q&A</a> or post on the WAM talk page.</li></ol> <p>Best Wishes,--<a href="/wiki/User:AddisWang" title="User:AddisWang">AddisWang</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AddisWang" title="User talk:AddisWang">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-AddisWang-2016-11-08T16:07:00.000Z-Welcome_to_Wikipedia_Asian_Month!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:07, 8 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AddisWang-2016-11-08T16:07:00.000Z-Welcome_to_Wikipedia_Asian_Month!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AddisWang-2016-11-08T16:07:00.000Z-Welcome_to_Wikipedia_Asian_Month!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_stop" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_stop-2016-12-04T17:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_stop-2016-12-04T17:09:00.000Z"></span>Please stop<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_stop-2016-12-04T17:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: Please stop"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:09:00.000Z-Please_stop"></span>You've edit warred and have now used full protection to aid your position. This isn't the conduct expected of an admin. —<a href="/wiki/User:SpacemanSpiff" title="User:SpacemanSpiff"><span style="color:#BA181F;">Spaceman</span></a><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpacemanSpiff" title="User talk:SpacemanSpiff"><span style="color:#2B18BA;">Spiff</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:09:00.000Z-Please_stop" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 4 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:09:00.000Z-Please_stop"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:09:00.000Z-Please_stop"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:15:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:09:00.000Z"></span>Why? Protection is not aiding my position. As I stated, it's to encourage folks to discuss which they were not doing. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:15:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:15, 4 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:15:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:15:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:17:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:15:00.000Z"></span>If you don't understand <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INVOLVED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INVOLVED">WP:INVOLVED</a> then you shouldn't have any admin tools. Please stop edit warring and/or abusing your admin tools or you will be blocked and/or a desysop request filed. —<a href="/wiki/User:SpacemanSpiff" title="User:SpacemanSpiff"><span style="color:#BA181F;">Spaceman</span></a><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpacemanSpiff" title="User talk:SpacemanSpiff"><span style="color:#2B18BA;">Spiff</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:17:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 4 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:17:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:17:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:22:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:17:00.000Z"></span>I don't see any abuse. Will you then – in your duties as an administrator – request that the involved parties discuss their position on a talk page? That is my sole intention. If you feel that a desysop request is warranted, then you should do so, of course. peace – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:22:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 4 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:22:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:22:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-04T17:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T02:49:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:22:00.000Z"></span>I think you need to drop the Meitei stick quickly (see <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=States_and_union_territories_of_India&curid=375986&diff=753083349&oldid=753080533">[1]</a>). Are you aware of the sanctions in place on India/Pakistan articles? I'm posting a notice below just in case you're not. --<a href="/wiki/User:RegentsPark" title="User:RegentsPark">regentspark</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RegentsPark" title="User talk:RegentsPark">comment</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T02:49:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:49, 5 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T02:49:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T02:49:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-04T17:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T14:48:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T02:49:00.000Z"></span>No, I wasn't aware as I usually don't edit in this area. But, what effectively does this mean? Is one allowed to edit India pages or not? Why exactly are you telling me this? Am I guilty of something? <dl><dd>Just making you aware that you need to be extra careful editing in this area. About the Meitei stick, you need to get consensus for your edits because of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a> and because it appears that there are many editors reverting your preferred name for the language. I'm surprised I need to explain all this to an admin but this should be fairly obvious.--<a href="/wiki/User:RegentsPark" title="User:RegentsPark">regentspark</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RegentsPark" title="User talk:RegentsPark">comment</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T14:48:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T02:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 5 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T14:48:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T02:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T14:48:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T02:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T15:59:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T14:48:00.000Z"></span>Ok. There are basically two editors (but mostly one) reverting my edits. I do admit to editwarring (although I don't believe I've violated any 3RR rule contrary to SpacemanSpiff's understanding). I was affected by what I perceive as Filpro's rather rude edit style. That's my fault. I generally don't keep up with the bureaucratic part of wikipedia. I primarily add substantial context to wikipedia that hasn't existed here before. So-called <i>sanctions</i> are new to me and frankly don't seem necessary. I also still fail to understand why you and SpacemanSpiff are singling me out. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T15:59:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T14:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:59, 5 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T15:59:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T14:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T15:59:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T14:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:06:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T15:59:00.000Z"></span>Since you're the one making the change, it's up to you to seek consensus. That's why you're the one getting all these messages. --<a href="/wiki/User:RegentsPark" title="User:RegentsPark">regentspark</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RegentsPark" title="User talk:RegentsPark">comment</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:06:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T15:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 5 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:06:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T15:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:06:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T15:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T17:18:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:06:00.000Z"></span>I see. So, it's a narrow focus on the <a href="/wiki/India" title="India">India</a> article. In contrast, i view it as the general area of all wikipedia reference to Meitei/Manipuri related things. In other words, i view wikipedia as more interconnected. Therefore, it's not 'up to [me]'. Rather it's up to both me and Filpro to seek consensus. And, if different names in different articles are used for the same referent, then there should be an explicit mention and justification for that state of affairs. (My implicit assumption: a one-to-one correspondence between name and referent is preferred.) Maybe my perspective is a minority one.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>But, at any rate, I now understand why you admonish me and not Filpro. Presumably, SpacemanSpiff also has a similar focus on a subset of articles. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T17:18:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:18, 5 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T17:18:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T17:18:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:40:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T17:18:00.000Z"></span>I don't think you're seeing the problem. There is no narrow focus or broad focus. Rather, there is just how you go about making changes (and how you use your admin tools). Wikipedia functions better when there is discussion and consensus and it is incumbent on you to seek that consensus - whether it be on the India article or in the language page or elsewhere. Provide sources, make your case in a reasonable way, and other editors will evaluate your arguments. Edit war, and you'll end up blocked and not listened to. It's all fairly simple and completely independent of where and what you're actually doing with content. --<a href="/wiki/User:RegentsPark" title="User:RegentsPark">regentspark</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RegentsPark" title="User talk:RegentsPark">comment</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:40:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T17:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 5 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:40:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T17:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:40:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T17:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T17:54:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:40:00.000Z"></span>Ok, I now no longer understand why you are singling me out. I see the problem. But, I don't see why you are not also explaining this to Filpro as they initiated the edit war in the first place. Is it because I have admin status and therefore deserve extra censure? (I'm not sure since you just mentioned that parenthetically.) Or, is the presumption that Filpro already knows these things and therefore doesn't need to be censured? – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T17:54:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 5 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T17:54:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T17:54:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T17:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T18:02:00.000Z-Please_stop"></span> Because it is your change that is being reverted. And I'm done with explaining all this so you're welcome to do whatever you want with my warning. --<a href="/wiki/User:RegentsPark" title="User:RegentsPark">regentspark</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RegentsPark" title="User talk:RegentsPark">comment</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T18:02:00.000Z-Please_stop" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 5 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T18:02:00.000Z-Please_stop"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T18:02:00.000Z-Please_stop"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T18:20:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T18:02:00.000Z"></span>And, Filpro's change was reverted as well starting from <a href="/wiki/Meitei_language" title="Meitei language">Meitei language</a>. I'm sorry you are frustrated, but you are not explaining your selective attention to me. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T18:20:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T18:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 5 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T18:20:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T18:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T18:20:00.000Z-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T18:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T03:41:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T18:20:00.000Z"></span>As for the 'Meitei stick', well, there isn't a consensus on what Wikipedia's policy is. I'm trying to follow some aspects of Wikipedia policy while another editor is following a different policy. So, there needs to be some resolution coming from other folks. Feel free to comment at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Meitei_language" title="Talk:Meitei language">Talk:Meitei language</a>. Both me & Filpro should probably refrain from editing Meitei-related topics. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T03:41:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T18:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:41, 5 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T03:41:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T18:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T03:41:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T18:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-05T04:03:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T03:41:00.000Z"></span>While there may not be a consensus on the name to be used, your behavior here is what is classified as disruptive. You violated 3RR on <a href="/wiki/India" title="India">India</a> and then added full protection in violation of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:INVOLVED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:INVOLVED">WP:INVOLVED</a> and are continuing to edit war in other articles, including misusing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Rollback" title="Wikipedia:Rollback">WP:Rollback</a>. THe sanctions exist to prevent such behavior and if you do continue this, you are likely to be topic banned from the area. —<a href="/wiki/User:SpacemanSpiff" title="User:SpacemanSpiff"><span style="color:#BA181F;">Spaceman</span></a><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpacemanSpiff" title="User talk:SpacemanSpiff"><span style="color:#2B18BA;">Spiff</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-05T04:03:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T03:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:03, 5 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-05T04:03:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T03:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-05T04:03:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T03:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T04:14:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-05T04:03:00.000Z"></span>Ok. And, the reason you aren't concerned with Filpro's edit warring is because their edits aren't disruptive? – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T04:14:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-05T04:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:14, 5 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T04:14:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-05T04:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-05T04:14:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2016-12-05T04:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discretionary_sanctions_alert" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discretionary_sanctions_alert-2016-12-05T02:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discretionary_sanctions_alert-2016-12-05T02:50:00.000Z"></span>Discretionary sanctions alert<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discretionary_sanctions_alert-2016-12-05T02:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: Discretionary sanctions alert"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T02:50:00.000Z-Discretionary_sanctions_alert"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r948608796">.mw-parser-output .ivmbox{clear:both;margin:1em 0 0 0;border:1px solid #a2a9b1;background-color:ivory;padding:0.5em;display:flex;align-items:center}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox .mbox-image{border:none;display:table-cell;padding:2px 0 2px 0.5em;text-align:center;vertical-align:middle}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox .mbox-text{border:none;display:table-cell;padding:0.25em 0.5em;width:100%;box-sizing:border-box}</style> <div id="ivmbox-tidy" class="ivmbox ivmbox-tidy"> <div class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Commons-emblem-notice.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Commons-emblem-notice.svg/50px-Commons-emblem-notice.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Commons-emblem-notice.svg/75px-Commons-emblem-notice.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Commons-emblem-notice.svg/100px-Commons-emblem-notice.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></div> <div class="mbox-text"><i>This message contains important information about an administrative situation on Wikipedia. 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Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions. --<a href="/wiki/User:RegentsPark" title="User:RegentsPark">regentspark</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RegentsPark" title="User talk:RegentsPark">comment</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T02:50:00.000Z-Discretionary_sanctions_alert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:50, 5 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T02:50:00.000Z-Discretionary_sanctions_alert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RegentsPark-2016-12-05T02:50:00.000Z-Discretionary_sanctions_alert"></span></div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template:Shogidiagram" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Shogidiagram-2016-12-11T00:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Shogidiagram-2016-12-11T00:33:00.000Z"></span>Template:Shogidiagram<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Shogidiagram-2016-12-11T00:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: Template:Shogidiagram"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2016-12-11T00:33:00.000Z-Template:Shogidiagram"></span>Hi Ish ishwar. I'm not very knowlegable on creating templates and I'm not sure what the basic difference is between <a href="/wiki/Template:Shogi_diagram" title="Template:Shogi diagram">Template:Shogi diagram</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Shogidiagram&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Shogidiagram (page does not exist)">Template:Shogidiagram</a>, but the names are almost identical which might make it confusing for anyone wanting to use them. It might also make it easy for unintentional mistakes to happen. It might be a good idea to change the name of one of them so that they are easier to distinguish by name. I have no preference as to which one's name is changed, but it could be some simply done like "Shogi diagram 1"/ "Shogi diagram 2" or something more specific to the difference(s) between the two. </p><p>Also, if you've <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CWW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CWW">copied some of the syntax</a> from within Wikipedia or from another language Wikipedia, you probably should add some attribution to "original" version somewhere since you've basically created a completely new page with a new edit history. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2016-12-11T00:33:00.000Z-Template:Shogidiagram" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 11 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2016-12-11T00:33:00.000Z-Template:Shogidiagram"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2016-12-11T00:33:00.000Z-Template:Shogidiagram"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-11T01:01:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2016-12-11T00:33:00.000Z"></span>Template:Shogidiagram calls Module:Shogi diagram just like the chess diagram. Basically, the Shogidiagram version uses text characters for the shogi pieces (instead of image files of characters like the Shogi diagram). There is also a technical difference in that Shogidiagram requires two piece in hand arguments in addition to a header & footer argument (unlike Shogi diagram which used the header & footer arguments for mentioning the pieces in hand). Otherwise, the template itself is mostly the same. I plan to customize it further by making some arguments optional, label switches, etc.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>The basic idea to use text instead of image is to reduce page load time (see, e.g, the mammoth <a href="/wiki/Castle_(shogi)" title="Castle (shogi)">Castle (shogi)</a>) & to render a sharper character at all text-sizes.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>For the name, I propose that there be only one diagram template. So, once the pages are fixed so that the diagrams within fit the argument structure, then Shogidiagram can be moved to Shogi diagram (i.e. copied into it & Shogidiagram deleted). So, Shogidiagram is just a temp template for this transition period.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>The module is inspired by the chess one, but the syntax is mine as I had to deal with different issues and a different structure. I mentioned that with my 'based on' language, but even that's probably not needed as the structure is probably a natural one based on how one writes the html. I just looked at the chess module because it's easier to learn the syntax via example (I never heard of Lua before) instead of from a reference book (for me anyway). However, the Shogidiagram template is definitely based the Shogi diagram template. In fact, I'd say that Shogidiagram is a working (in alpha) modification of Shogi diagram.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>There's something funny about the code in that the arrow images show something like a 1 pixel whitespace between the left & right sides of the images and the border of the table cells. I haven't figured this out yet... (This doesn't show up at the top & bottom of the images, so I first need to confirm the images are truly square.) – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-11T01:01:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2016-12-11T00:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:01, 11 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-11T01:01:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2016-12-11T00:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-11T01:01:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2016-12-11T00:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2016-12-12T01:09:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-11T01:01:00.000Z"></span>I don't really understood much of the technical details that go into creating templates; I basically copied the one I "created" from what was being used on Japanese Wikipedia and tweaked it as I thought needed. If this new version is an improvement, then I'm all for it. I just wanted to point out <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CWW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CWW">WP:CWW</a> and the possible problems with the names.</dd> <dd>I also noticed the white space in the arrows. I basically created them using <a href="/wiki/MS_Paint" class="mw-redirect" title="MS Paint">MS Paint</a>, saved them as png files and then uploaded them to Commons. I'm sure there's probably a much better way to do that as well so feel free to improve/tweak/re-create/delete as needed. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2016-12-12T01:09:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-11T01:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:09, 12 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2016-12-12T01:09:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-11T01:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2016-12-12T01:09:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-11T01:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-13T15:16:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2016-12-12T01:09:00.000Z"></span>The template from jawiki is clever. So, it was good to import it. Actually, if you hadnt have done that, i probably wouldnt have been motivated to look at the chess template or to learn Lua & the necessary html. (I didn't think that it was possible to rotate text via CSS.)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I think it's an improvement because it's faster to display text than pics. And, fonts are very clear when you increase their size unlike pics, which get blurry. Also, since the template is a wrapper for a Lua module, one can add optional formatting. For example, one could add a flag like orientation=upside that would flip the board making (a) white on the bottom, black on the top and (b) adjusting the board coordinate axes, and (c) putting 王 on the bottom & 玉 on top. Things like that.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>The possibly negative points about using text include:</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>(i) The diagrams look different on different computers since displayed text appearance is always font-dependent. This is not bad in itself, but if the fonts differ in size and/or alignment, then the diagrams may look misaligned on some computers if the html table dimensions and CSS formatting is off. It's impossible to know without testing lots of different fonts.</li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>(ii) The rotated text depends on web browser support for the <i>transform: rotate</i> bit, which is new. For example,</li></ul> <dl><dd><div style="transform: rotate(180deg)">香</div> gives:</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div style="width: 10em; transform: rotate(180deg);">香</div> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Although it seems that most modern browsers support this now, very older browsers may not.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>(iii) Well, it's in Lua now. Although it's more customizable, it's now harder to maintain since not everyone knows Lua. I'll try to help as much as i can with this by documenting it. (Unlike the chess module which is completely undocumented and uncommented)</li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I dont think there's a better option for the arrows. So, although the pieces are text, the arrows remain as images. I dont know if there are suitable arrow and line character points in the Unicode tables. There are definitely arrows, but if we want to use the arrows as they are being used in the diagrams, then they need to connect up to edges of the html table cells to look 'nice'. And, even if there are suitable characters, they also need to be supported in actual fonts that would be on readers' computers. I think the MS Paint pics are fine.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>It will take me a little while to adjust the diagram code in articles since i've made so many diagrams. But, once that's done and everything's behaving as expected, then i plan to use the <a href="/wiki/Template:Shogi_diagram" title="Template:Shogi diagram">template:shogi diagram</a> name. The pic-based version can be transferred to something like <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:Shogi_diagram_image&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:Shogi diagram image (page does not exist)">template:shogi diagram image</a>. And then, i go back the articles and replace <i>shogidiagram</i> with (the easier to read) <i>shogi diagram.</i></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I figured out the 1px spacing issue with the arrow pics. Apparently, wikipedia's default CSS gives table cells extra padding. So, you have to null that to 0 padding explicitly. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-13T15:16:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2016-12-12T01:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 13 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-13T15:16:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2016-12-12T01:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-13T15:16:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2016-12-12T01:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-16T15:30:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-13T15:16:00.000Z"></span>This actually didn't fix all 1px spacing issues. So, still a mystery.... – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-16T15:30:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-13T15:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-16T15:30:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-13T15:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-16T15:30:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-13T15:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Address_Collection_-_1st_reminder" data-mw-thread-id="h-Address_Collection_-_1st_reminder-2016-12-26T21:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Address_Collection_-_1st_reminder-2016-12-26T21:04:00.000Z"></span>Address Collection - 1st reminder<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Address_Collection_-_1st_reminder-2016-12-26T21:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: Address Collection - 1st reminder"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-12-26T21:04:00.000Z-Address_Collection_-_1st_reminder"></span>Hi there. At the moment we have not received your response on the address collection. Sorry for the inconvenience if you did submit the form before. If you still wish to receive the postcard from Wikipedia Asian Month, please submit your mailing address (not the email) via <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe0KM7eQEvUEfFTa9Ovx8GZ66fe1PdkSiQViMFSrEPvObV0kw/viewform">this google form</a></b>. This form is only accessed by me and your username will not distribute to the local community to send postcards. All personal data will be destroyed immediately after postcards are sent. 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Best, <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:AddisWang" class="extiw" title="m:User:AddisWang">Addis Wang</a>, sent by <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-12-26T21:04:00.000Z-Address_Collection_-_1st_reminder" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 26 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-12-26T21:04:00.000Z-Address_Collection_-_1st_reminder"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-12-26T21:04:00.000Z-Address_Collection_-_1st_reminder"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Buoyant_Rook" data-mw-thread-id="h-Buoyant_Rook-2016-12-28T10:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Buoyant_Rook-2016-12-28T10:04:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Buoyant_Rook" title="Buoyant Rook">Buoyant Rook</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Buoyant_Rook-2016-12-28T10:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: Buoyant Rook"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:04:00.000Z-Buoyant_Rook"></span>Are you going to write the page quoting reliable sources? If not I'll rewrite it as a redirect.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:04:00.000Z-Buoyant_Rook" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:04, 28 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:04:00.000Z-Buoyant_Rook"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:04:00.000Z-Buoyant_Rook"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Bishop_Head_Pawn" title="Bishop Head Pawn"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:59:00.000Z-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:04:00.000Z"></span>Bishop Head Pawn</a>.<a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:59:00.000Z-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:59, 28 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:59:00.000Z-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:59:00.000Z-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-28T18:26:00.000Z-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:59:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, eventually. It's just a stub after all. If you know the topic, then you can add some information, too. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-28T18:26:00.000Z-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 28 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-28T18:26:00.000Z-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-28T18:26:00.000Z-Xx236-2016-12-28T10:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xx236-2016-12-29T09:50:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-28T18:26:00.000Z"></span>No, I don't know the subject. No, they aren't stubs, they are unsourced substubs, your personal notes in main space. <a href="/wiki/User:Xx236" title="User:Xx236">Xx236</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xx236" title="User talk:Xx236">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Xx236-2016-12-29T09:50:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-28T18:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:50, 29 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xx236-2016-12-29T09:50:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-28T18:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xx236-2016-12-29T09:50:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2016-12-28T18:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-05T17:09:00.000Z-Xx236-2016-12-29T09:50:00.000Z"></span>Are you happy now with my 'personal notes in main space'? – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-05T17:09:00.000Z-Xx236-2016-12-29T09:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 5 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-05T17:09:00.000Z-Xx236-2016-12-29T09:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-05T17:09:00.000Z-Xx236-2016-12-29T09:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Saraiki_dialect" data-mw-thread-id="h-Saraiki_dialect-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Saraiki_dialect-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z"></span>Saraiki dialect<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Saraiki_dialect-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: Saraiki dialect"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uanfala-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z-Saraiki_dialect"></span>Hi. You recently participated in the Requested move discussion for <a href="/wiki/Saraiki_dialect" class="mw-redirect" title="Saraiki dialect">Saraiki dialect</a>, which has now been closed. The close is under discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2017_January#Saraiki_dialect" title="Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2017 January">Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2017 January#Saraiki dialect</a>, where you'll be welcome to comment. Thanks! – <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Uanfala" title="User talk:Uanfala"> Uanfala (talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Uanfala-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z-Saraiki_dialect" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:14, 26 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uanfala-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z-Saraiki_dialect"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uanfala-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z-Saraiki_dialect"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T08:54:00.000Z-Uanfala-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z"></span>I don't know what to say. The objection against <i>Saraiki language</i> is silly. I don't understand why Wikipedia doesn't seek out actual linguists to settle this rather than relying on ill-informed editors. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T08:54:00.000Z-Uanfala-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:54, 30 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T08:54:00.000Z-Uanfala-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T08:54:00.000Z-Uanfala-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T09:02:00.000Z-Uanfala-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z"></span>I also never understood the arbitrary time limits on these things. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T09:02:00.000Z-Uanfala-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:02, 30 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T09:02:00.000Z-Uanfala-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T09:02:00.000Z-Uanfala-2017-01-26T13:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Uanfala-2017-01-30T13:00:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T09:02:00.000Z"></span>Well, isn't that how wikipedia's decision making is supposed to work? If there's a dispute, it gets settled by "uninvolved" (i.e. ill-informed) editors. And I think the greater problem is not with the discussions, but with the article content itself. Edits to language-related articles are relatively more susceptible to the <a href="/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect" title="Dunning–Kruger effect">Dunning–Kruger effect</a> – few amateurs would have the confidence to edit articles on say quantum chromodynamics, but with such an everyday matter as language, I guess it's easy for many people to feel like they know what's going on. I've taken most of the major Indian language articles off my watchlist – it was unbearable to see the mess that well-meaning editors make of them on a daily basis. – <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Uanfala" title="User talk:Uanfala"> Uanfala (talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Uanfala-2017-01-30T13:00:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T09:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Uanfala-2017-01-30T13:00:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T09:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Uanfala-2017-01-30T13:00:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T09:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T15:32:00.000Z-Uanfala-2017-01-30T13:00:00.000Z"></span>Yes, I view it as a flaw of wikipedia. It's sort of like a democracy: it works better when the members are knowledgeable. Other encyclopedias invite experts to contribute giving you higher quality material.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>The issue here is a few editors don't seem to realize that <i>dialect</i> isn't defined by mutual intelligibility to the exclusion of socio-political criteria as is apparent by the wikipedia article names for Spanish & Portuguese and Swedish & Norwegian and so on. I don't know where they got this idea from. As far as I know, all introductory linguistic textbooks mention mutual intelligibility as a possible definition while in the same breath mentioning the lack of consistency of the definition as used by laypeople. I guess there will be problems as long as this misconception is held.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>The other issue is that other editors seem to want Saraiki to be associated with the term <i>dialect</i> merely because they don't wish speech to be elevated to the status of <i>language</i> and wish it to be denigrated with the connotations of <i>dialect.</i> Generally, linguists reject this desire for denigration. Now, maybe wikipedia wants to consider this point of view as something valid to consider in naming an article in a democratic fashion. But, it's actually against wikipedia naming policy to use disfavored ethnonyms (in alignment with the practice of linguists [and I guess anthropologists too]). The editors are ignoring this.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>For me, there's simply no debate here. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T15:32:00.000Z-Uanfala-2017-01-30T13:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:32, 30 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T15:32:00.000Z-Uanfala-2017-01-30T13:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-01-30T15:32:00.000Z-Uanfala-2017-01-30T13:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Administrators'_newsletter_-_February_2017" data-mw-thread-id="h-Administrators'_newsletter_-_February_2017"><span id="Administrators.27_newsletter_-_February_2017"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Administrators'_newsletter_-_February_2017"></span>Administrators' newsletter - February 2017<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Administrators'_newsletter_-_February_2017"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: Administrators' newsletter - February 2017"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter">News and updates for administrators</a> from the past month (January 2017). 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This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T34950" class="extiw" title="phab:T34950">T34950</a>)</li> <li>Following the latest RfC concluding that Pending Changes 2 should not be used on the English Wikipedia, an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Make_PC2_no_longer_available_to_admins" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)">RfC</a> closed with consensus to remove the options for using it from the page protection interface, a change which has now been made. 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This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.</li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/20px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/30px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span> <b>Arbitration</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li>The Arbitration Committee released <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/762120256#Response_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation_statement_on_paid_editing_and_outing" title="Special:PermanentLink/762120256">a response</a> to the Wikimedia Foundation's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikimedia_Foundation_statement_on_paid_editing_and_outing" title="Wikipedia:Wikimedia Foundation statement on paid editing and outing">statement on paid editing and outing</a>.</li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_knewsticker.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Nuvola_apps_knewsticker.png/20px-Nuvola_apps_knewsticker.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Nuvola_apps_knewsticker.png/30px-Nuvola_apps_knewsticker.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Nuvola_apps_knewsticker.png/40px-Nuvola_apps_knewsticker.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span> <b>Obituaries</b> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:JohnCD" title="User:JohnCD">JohnCD</a> (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Wikipedia seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009.</li></ul></dd></dl> <hr/> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_newsletter/17/1" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:Administrators' newsletter/17/1">Discuss this newsletter</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Subscribe">Subscribe</a> • <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_newsletter/Archive" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Archive">Archive</a></div> <p>13:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Karolina_Stycznska" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Karolina_Stycznska-2017-02-21T04:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Karolina_Stycznska-2017-02-21T04:38:00.000Z"></span>Draft:Karolina Stycznska<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Karolina_Stycznska-2017-02-21T04:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: Draft:Karolina Stycznska"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2017-02-21T04:38:00.000Z-Draft:Karolina_Stycznska"></span>Hi Ish ishwar. Just wanted to let you know that I started <a href="/wiki/Draft:Karolina_Stycznska" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Karolina Stycznska">Draft:Karolina Stycznska</a>. Feel free to add content as you see fit. I'd expect there be more online about her in English now that's she's been officially promoted to 2 Kyu. There will also likely be quite a bit on her in Japanese and in Polish as well. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2017-02-21T04:38:00.000Z-Draft:Karolina_Stycznska" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:38, 21 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2017-02-21T04:38:00.000Z-Draft:Karolina_Stycznska"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2017-02-21T04:38:00.000Z-Draft:Karolina_Stycznska"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-02-21T18:25:00.000Z-Draft:Karolina_Stycznska"></span>Hi. Nice! – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-02-21T18:25:00.000Z-Draft:Karolina_Stycznska" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 21 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-02-21T18:25:00.000Z-Draft:Karolina_Stycznska"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-02-21T18:25:00.000Z-Draft:Karolina_Stycznska"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2017-02-22T22:14:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-02-21T18:25:00.000Z"></span>The draft was moved to the main space by a WikiProject Japan editor. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:JAPAN#Draft:Karolina_Stycznska" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:JAPAN">WT:JAPAN#Draft:Karolina Stycznska</a> for reference. 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Just so no one has to go through them. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:OneWeirdDude" title="User:OneWeirdDude">OneWeirdDude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:OneWeirdDude" title="User talk:OneWeirdDude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-OneWeirdDude-2017-04-13T19:45:00.000Z-Shogi_minor_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:45, 13 April 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OneWeirdDude-2017-04-13T19:45:00.000Z-Shogi_minor_edits"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OneWeirdDude-2017-04-13T19:45:00.000Z-Shogi_minor_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-04-14T22:10:00.000Z-OneWeirdDude-2017-04-13T19:45:00.000Z"></span>hi. Ok. I'm sorry to have made you go through minor things. So, what's your definition of <i>minor?</i> Or, should i just use my judgment? I've used the minor marking in the past but at some point decided it was too subjective to be worth the time and the potential for mislabeling.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>(Also, it's a different topic & unimportant, but my <i>that that</i> > <i>that they</i> was really a typo. I should know since i wrote it. I meant to type <i>they.</i> Amusingly, <i>that that</i> turned out to make sense. More importantly, i'm still not satisfied with the clarity of that section with either sentence....) – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-04-14T22:10:00.000Z-OneWeirdDude-2017-04-13T19:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:10, 14 April 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-04-14T22:10:00.000Z-OneWeirdDude-2017-04-13T19:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-04-14T22:10:00.000Z-OneWeirdDude-2017-04-13T19:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-04-18T15:07:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-04-14T22:10:00.000Z"></span>I saw that there's actually a what's-not-a-minor-edit section now at <a href="/wiki/Help:Minor_edit" title="Help:Minor edit">Help:Minor edit</a>. 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I haven't been doing very much work on shogi lately, but just wanted to let you know that your continued efforts are much appreciated. Anyway, just in case you haven't heard yet, there are going to be 8 major titles from June 2017. The Eiou-sen has been upgraded to major titles status now that the man vs. machine Denou-sen matches are finished. The official announcement can be found <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.shogi.or.jp/news/2017/05/863.html">here</a>. I haven't checked yet, but there's probably an article or two about this in the Japanese media as well. Mainichi and Asahi seem to provide fairly decent coverage of shogi, so perhaps they willmention it. I don't think we'll find anything about this in English other than some forums or noticeboards, unless the JSA or a Japanese paper decides to publish a translated version. </p><p>Also, I've been sitting on a bit of info related to opening trends in pro games from the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/goshogi/shogifocus/04.cgi">April 16 Shogi Focus</a>. Katsumata 6-dan presented some of his research regarding changes he seen ranging rook and static rook opening selection since the 1980s. It was kinda interesting, but it may be too OR-ish for Wikipedia. I'll try to post it on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Shogi_opening" title="Talk:Shogi opening">Talk:Shogi opening</a> sometime this week. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2017-05-21T13:18:00.000Z-Shogi_Major_Titles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:18, 21 May 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-21T13:18:00.000Z-Shogi_Major_Titles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-21T13:18:00.000Z-Shogi_Major_Titles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-21T19:20:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-21T13:18:00.000Z"></span>My shogi-playing friends let me know that. I added a redlink to the shogi title template, but no more than that. I guess i'll just continue contributing to shogi theory gradually rather than dealing with tournament info.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Maybe we'll get an english article. Seems like that Fujii kid is making shogi newsworthy for the publishers.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I think i skimmed through that Shogi Focus show that you mention (from YouTube). I have to look at it more carefully. You mean Katsumata's research is too 'original'? If so, why? None of the shogi literature (books) actually seem very scholarly to me (coming from academia). And, i dont see anything like peer review for them. So, whatever a professional says seems to be the gold standard no matter how unsatisfying as that may be. Well, that's my impression anyway, i may be wrong. For what it's worth, the British <i>Shogi</i> magazine started to publish game statistics on opening popular in the 1980s. So, it can be compared to Katsumata. But, i guess all the <i>Shogi</i> info is originating from the Japanese magazine, so old copies of that would be the best source? Sometimes books say things about changes in relative popularity of opening strategies, but they never present any actual data on it. I wonder if sometimes it is based only on personal impressions, which (as we know) can be wrong. Sometimes we can confirm with the data in Kyokumenpedia, but Kyokumenpedia may not have all the data anyway. Anyway, i like this stuff. I'm very curious about openings/strategies that are no longer used. (I found one that i mentioned here: <a href="/wiki/Central_Rook#vs_Side_Pawn_Capture_variation" title="Central Rook">Central Rook#vs Side Pawn Capture variation</a>) – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-21T19:20:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-21T13:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 21 May 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-21T19:20:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-21T13:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-21T19:20:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-21T13:18:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-22T01:29:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-21T19:20:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the reply. <ol><li>It might be possible to create a stub for the Eiou page since there it was covered by the <i><a href="/wiki/Sankei_Shimbun" title="Sankei Shimbun">Sankei Shimbun</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Nikkan_Sports" title="Nikkan Sports">Nikkan Sports</a></i> and <i><a href="/wiki/Mainichi_Shimbun" title="Mainichi Shimbun">Mainichi Shimbun</a></i> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.sankei.com/life/news/170520/lif1705200062-n1.html">here</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nikkansports.com/general/nikkan/news/1826849.html">here</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://mainichi.jp/articles/20170521/ddm/041/040/159000c">here</a> respectively. It's the first new major title in 34 years, so that could also be a hook for a DYK nomination.</li> <li>Sota Fujii gets lots of media covered mainly because he's still a junior high school student and because he keeps winning, inlcuding beating people like Habu. I haven't been able to find much on him in English, but there's quite a bit in the Japanese press. He's also covered on mainstream news programs and talk shows. One interesting thing that I saw was that the JSA prominently announced the result of his NHK Cup game against Shota Chida <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.shogi.or.jp/news/2017/04/13.html">[2]</a> a month before the game was shown on TV <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/goshogi/kifu/sgs.cgi?d=20170514">[3]</a>, which is something I've never seen them do before because it's kind of a spolier. NHK, for reference, only posts the official game results after the game has been broadcast.</li> <li>About my OR comment, I have no problem considering Katsumata as shogi expert and no reason to doubt his findings. He's a data cruncher and his widely recognized as such by shogi persons. My comment was more about what others might think since shogi is not something typically well covered in English and Katsumata may be a bit of an unknown quanity. He did describe his findings as "dokutoku", but I don't think that means they cannot be trusted. Anyway, he used pie graphs to discuss some basic trends in three separate years for ranging rook and static rook openings. I thought those pie graphs could be converted to a simple Wikitable with an some sentences or two about Katsumata and the things he found. Citing the specific <i>Shogi Focus</i> can be done using <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_Episode" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cite Episode">Cite Episode</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>.</li></ol></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Finally, I didn't mention this in my previous post, but the JSA has also been involved in a Shogi Internet Channel on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.shogi.or.jp/news/2017/01/abematvabematv.html">Abema TV</a> since Janaury. They've been using it quite a bit for official games and other shogi-related programs; I've even seen TV commercials promoting it. This might be something that also could be created into a stub or at least added to the JSA article since it's has recieved some coverage in the mainstream press.<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://mainichi.jp/articles/20170202/dde/012/200/009000c">[4]</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://style.nikkei.com/article/DGXKZO12775850Q7A210C1BE0P01?channel=DF280120166618">[5]</a> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2017-05-22T01:29:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-21T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:29, 22 May 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-22T01:29:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-21T19:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-22T01:29:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-21T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-23T21:38:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-22T01:29:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, my friends told me about Abema TV, too. Theyre very up on the shogi news. However, last time we checked it wasnt available to view in the US. But, sure – seems worth mentioning to me. Makes the article very up-to-date compared with most of the english stuff on the JSA which is from the 1980s mostly.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I guess there's a jawiki Eiou article that may have useful notes. I thought it's interesting that this was elevated.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I have no idea what <i>dokutoku</i> means here. If the data is clear, then why say it all? Maybe it means some games were hard to classify in his limited set of categories, but he forced them into his categories anyway just to make a pie chart with less slices or to not stray from trad openings? If that's true, then other person doing the classification may reach a different graph – hence the comment? No way to know unless we see the data ourselves... – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-23T21:38:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-22T01:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 23 May 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-23T21:38:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-22T01:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-23T21:38:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-22T01:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-24T01:05:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-23T21:38:00.000Z"></span>I believe he said "dokutoku", but I'll have to check again. He probably said whatever he said just to not appear to be boasting or arrogant; a lot of Japanese do similar things to soften the tone of what they are saying a bit and make themselves appear a little humble. He did not really discuss any of his data and probably did all the number crunching prior to the show and just summarized things in a general way to suit the type of audience who watches the NHK shogi programs. There were a couple of shots of him using his laptop and it looked like he was working off some kind of database, but I don't remember him discussing it. I just assume he used the results from official games for the years he analyzed.</dd> <dd>My guess is that quite a lot of the people watching are casual players who might not be as interested in a hardcore technical analysis than they are in some general info and interesting factoids. The program used the be more of a instructional type of thing with more detailed analysis and weekly tsume shogi problems, and was actually called NHK将棋講座. They still devote part of the program to that kind of thing, but they also do more features and interviews in an attempt to reach a more diverse audience. Over the past few years, the JSA seems to have been trying to broaden the appeal of shogi beyond the traditional club player and the "Shogi Focus" program is one way they are trying to do that. The hosts used to be well-established older professionals, both men and women, but now they tend to be younger (and better looking) pros who are popular with fans for reasons not only related to their shogi ability and more mainstream show business types/idols who are currently very popular and who also happen to play shogi. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2017-05-24T01:05:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-23T21:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:05, 24 May 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-24T01:05:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-23T21:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-24T01:05:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-23T21:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-24T20:23:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-24T01:05:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, i wondered about that too. My native speaker consultant tells me that <i>dokutoku</i> is usually used to talk about other people's stuff not one's own stuff. So, it seems weird. But, i haven't asked them to watch it in the context of the show.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I suspect that would you say about the simplification is probably true too. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-24T20:23:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-24T01:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 24 May 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-24T20:23:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-24T01:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-24T20:23:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-24T01:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-25T01:04:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-24T20:23:00.000Z"></span>He may have said something else besides "dokutoku". I think it would be fair to consider him a reliable source for something such as this. Probably he should be attributed and treated as a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PSTS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PSTS">primary source</a>, but still would sort be like citing a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UGC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UGC">reputable news blog</a>. Like many pros, he makes part of his living off publishing shogi books and he has authored ones such as <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/4861370167/kaneabel09-22/ref=nosim/">this</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E6%B6%88%E3%81%88%E3%81%9F%E6%88%A6%E6%B3%95%E3%81%AE%E8%AC%8E_%E3%81%82%E3%81%AE%E6%B5%81%E8%A1%8C%E5%BD%A2%E3%81%AF%E3%81%A9%E3%81%93%E3%81%AB-%E5%8B%9D%E5%8F%88-%E6%B8%85%E5%92%8C/dp/4895636453/ref=la_B004LPGSSI_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1495674110&sr=1-2">this</a>. Perhaps some of what he presented on NHK was stuff he worked out a while back for another project. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2017-05-25T01:04:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-24T20:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:04, 25 May 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-25T01:04:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-24T20:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-25T01:04:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-24T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-25T02:08:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-25T01:04:00.000Z"></span>I dont think a <i>primary source</i> characterization is right. This is mostly a concept in the field of history (or like literature studies, whose researchers seem to me to be like less rigorous historians). He's a secondary source if you want to characterize it in this way. He has to actually analyze the data to produce something new that is readable/interpretable. The primary sources would be the game records themselves (or the immediate reports of the social events surrounding the games if you are dealing with a social/cultural stuff).</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I like those books a lot, they were partially translated into English, too. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-25T02:08:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-25T01:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-25T02:08:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-25T01:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-25T02:08:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-05-25T01:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-25T09:08:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-25T02:08:00.000Z"></span>I rewatched the episode only this time using headphones. The word he said was 独断 (dokudan) and he used to the day that he basically chosen to categorize the openings in his own particular way and not in reference to some standard way of categorizing them. Also, you're right about the primary source thing. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2017-05-25T09:08:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-25T02:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-25T09:08:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-25T02:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2017-05-25T09:08:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-05-25T02:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="shogi_minor_edit" data-mw-thread-id="h-shogi_minor_edit-2017-05-25T19:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-shogi_minor_edit-2017-05-25T19:01:00.000Z"></span>shogi minor edit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-shogi_minor_edit-2017-05-25T19:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=59" title="Edit section: shogi minor edit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OneWeirdDude-2017-05-25T19:01:00.000Z-shogi_minor_edit"></span>Hi, when forgetting to mark edits as minor, don't worry about it too much, although it helps if it's not common practice. 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I noticed that this file is being used under a claim of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content">fair use</a>. However, I think that the way it is being used fails the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content_criteria" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria">first non-free content criterion</a>. This criterion states that files used under claims of fair use may have <i>no free equivalent</i>; in other words, if the file could be adequately covered by a freely-licensed file or by text alone, then it may not be used on Wikipedia. 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Stefan2" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Stefan2">Stefan2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stefan2" title="User talk:Stefan2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Stefan2-2017-06-14T20:10:00.000Z-Replaceable_fair_use_File:Kifu325.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 14 June 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stefan2-2017-06-14T20:10:00.000Z-Replaceable_fair_use_File:Kifu325.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stefan2-2017-06-14T20:10:00.000Z-Replaceable_fair_use_File:Kifu325.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Template:Infobox_shogi_professional" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Template:Infobox_shogi_professional-2017-09-10T05:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Template:Infobox_shogi_professional-2017-09-10T05:02:00.000Z"></span>Draft:Template:Infobox shogi professional<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Template:Infobox_shogi_professional-2017-09-10T05:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=62" title="Edit section: Draft:Template:Infobox shogi professional"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2017-09-10T05:02:00.000Z-Draft:Template:Infobox_shogi_professional"></span>Hi Ish ishwar. Was wondering if you have any suggestions as to how to improve <a href="/wiki/Draft_talk:Template:Infobox_shogi_professional" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft talk:Template:Infobox shogi professional">Draft talk:Template:Infobox shogi professional</a>. I'm thinking of tweaking some of the parameters, but any other ideas you might have can be added to the draft's talk page. Right now, I'm using the Habu article as a guide for men, the Styczyńska article as the guide for women, and the Oyama as the guide for deceased players since if I can get the template to work in those, then it should work in the rest no problem. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2017-09-10T05:02:00.000Z-Draft:Template:Infobox_shogi_professional" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:02, 10 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2017-09-10T05:02:00.000Z-Draft:Template:Infobox_shogi_professional"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2017-09-10T05:02:00.000Z-Draft:Template:Infobox_shogi_professional"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_Admin_confidence_survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_Admin_confidence_survey-2017-09-14T20:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_Admin_confidence_survey-2017-09-14T20:56:00.000Z"></span>Invitation to Admin confidence survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_Admin_confidence_survey-2017-09-14T20:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=63" title="Edit section: Invitation to Admin confidence survey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SPoore_(WMF)-2017-09-14T20:56:00.000Z-Invitation_to_Admin_confidence_survey"></span>Hello, </p><p>Beginning in September 2017, the Wikimedia Foundation Anti-harassment tool team will be conducting a survey to gauge how well tools, training, and information exists to assist English Wikipedia administrators in recognizing and mitigating things like sockpuppetry, vandalism, and harassment. </p><p>The survey should only take 5 minutes, and your individual response will not be made public. This survey will be integral for our team to determine how to better support administrators. </p><p><big>To take the survey sign up <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_health_initiative_on_English_Wikipedia/Administrator_confidence_survey" title="Wikipedia:Community health initiative on English Wikipedia/Administrator confidence survey">here</a></b> and we will send you a link to the form.</big> </p><p>We really appreciate your input! </p><p><small>Please let us know if you wish to opt-out of all <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Mass_message_senders" title="Wikipedia:Mass message senders">massmessage mailings</a> from the Anti-harassment tools team. </small> </p><p>For the Anti-harassment tools team, <a href="/wiki/User:SPoore_(WMF)" title="User:SPoore (WMF)">SPoore (WMF), Community Advocate, Community health initiative</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SPoore_(WMF)" title="User talk:SPoore (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-SPoore_(WMF)-2017-09-14T20:56:00.000Z-Invitation_to_Admin_confidence_survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 14 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SPoore_(WMF)-2017-09-14T20:56:00.000Z-Invitation_to_Admin_confidence_survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SPoore_(WMF)-2017-09-14T20:56:00.000Z-Invitation_to_Admin_confidence_survey"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Good_work_on_shogi_stuff" data-mw-thread-id="h-Good_work_on_shogi_stuff-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Good_work_on_shogi_stuff-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z"></span>Good work on shogi stuff<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Good_work_on_shogi_stuff-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=64" title="Edit section: Good work on shogi stuff"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z-Good_work_on_shogi_stuff"></span>There's no shogi barnstar yet, but you definitely would deserve multiple ones for all the time and effort you've made in improving shogi-related stuff on Wikipedia. Thanks for doing all of that. <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span></abbr> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z-Good_work_on_shogi_stuff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 11 October 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z-Good_work_on_shogi_stuff"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z-Good_work_on_shogi_stuff"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-12T01:24:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z"></span>Sure. Thanks. I dont need any award though. Basically, i'm learning shogi (in part) by writing. Just a gift to the world. Hopefully, i'm not getting too much wrong. Contributing to wikipedia seems to be better than making some private website/blog that might disappear in 5–10 years as has happened to much of the English material of the past. Little by little, it starts to add up to something. I was surprised about the lack of nonJapanese material when i first started learning. Remedying this dearth of info (on American languages) was my initial motivation to join wikipedia so long ago, so it's the same feeling here. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-12T01:24:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:24, 12 October 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-12T01:24:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-12T01:24:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-12T01:28:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z"></span>Oh, and it goes without saying, but it's good to say anyway: your expertise is very much appreciated as well! – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-12T01:28:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:28, 12 October 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-12T01:28:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-12T01:28:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2017-10-11T22:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2017-10-12T02:30:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-12T01:28:00.000Z"></span>FWIW, I'm not even close to being an expert on shogi and do really spend as much time on it as I used to. I probably enjoy Wikipedia more these days. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2017-10-12T02:30:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-12T01:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:30, 12 October 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2017-10-12T02:30:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-12T01:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2017-10-12T02:30:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-12T01:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dab_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dab_pages-2017-10-22T05:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dab_pages-2017-10-22T05:25:00.000Z"></span>Dab pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dab_pages-2017-10-22T05:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=65" title="Edit section: Dab pages"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xezbeth-2017-10-22T05:25:00.000Z-Dab_pages"></span>Please don't usurp primary topics like at <a href="/wiki/Nishio" title="Nishio">Nishio</a>. It's a city of 160,000 people and is the undisputed primary topic. —<a href="/wiki/User:Xezbeth" title="User:Xezbeth">Xezbeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xezbeth" title="User talk:Xezbeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Xezbeth-2017-10-22T05:25:00.000Z-Dab_pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:25, 22 October 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xezbeth-2017-10-22T05:25:00.000Z-Dab_pages"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xezbeth-2017-10-22T05:25:00.000Z-Dab_pages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-22T09:43:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2017-10-22T05:25:00.000Z"></span>Nothing is being usurped. I guess i object to that characterization. I'm disambiguating the articles when the situation calls for it. If other concerned editors like yourself want to establish an article as <i>primary</i> by some arbitrary criteria, then that's fine. I don't object. However, it's not something that i find very interesting and so i leave it to others to do such things. I find the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation" title="Wikipedia:Disambiguation">Wikipedia:Disambiguation</a> guidelines rather vague and not well-defined. (Actually, in my opinion, it seems like it would save many hours of time (including time spent arguing) to completely dispense with primariness at all. Well, i won't try to convince anyone of this.) – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-22T09:43:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2017-10-22T05:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:43, 22 October 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-22T09:43:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2017-10-22T05:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-10-22T09:43:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2017-10-22T05:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia_Asian_Month_2017:_Invitation_to_Participate" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia_Asian_Month_2017:_Invitation_to_Participate"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia_Asian_Month_2017:_Invitation_to_Participate"></span>Wikipedia Asian Month 2017: Invitation to Participate<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia_Asian_Month_2017:_Invitation_to_Participate"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=66" title="Edit section: Wikipedia Asian Month 2017: Invitation to Participate"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Sun_Wiki.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Sun_Wiki.svg/250px-Sun_Wiki.svg.png" decoding="async" width="250" height="250" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Sun_Wiki.svg/375px-Sun_Wiki.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Sun_Wiki.svg/500px-Sun_Wiki.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="2500" data-file-height="2500"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hello! Last year, you signed up to participate in Wikipedia Asian Month (WAM) 2016 on the English Wikipedia. The event was an international success, with hundreds of editors creating thousands of articles on Asian topics across dozens of different language versions of Wikipedia. </p><p>I'd like to invite you to join us for <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Asian_Month" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Asian Month">Wikipedia Asian Month 2017</a></b>, which once again lasts through the month of November. The goal is for users to create new articles on Asian-related content, each at least 3,000 bytes and 300 words in length. 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If you have any questions, please visit <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Asian_Month" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Asian Month">our talk page</a>. </p><p>Thank you! </p><p>- <a href="/wiki/User:SuperHamster" title="User:SuperHamster">User:SuperHamster</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Titodutta" title="User:Titodutta">User:Titodutta</a> on behalf of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WAM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WAM">The English Wikipedia WAM Team</a> </p><p><small>This will be the last message you receive from the English Wikipedia WAM team for being a 2016 participant. If you sign up for WAM 2017, you will continue receiving periodic updates on the 2017 event.</small> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z"></span>ArbCom 2017 election voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=67" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2017 election voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello, Ish ishwar. Voting in the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2017" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2017">2017 Arbitration Committee elections</a></b> is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 10 December. All users who registered an account before Saturday, 28 October 2017, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Wednesday, 1 November 2017 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. </p><p>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">Arbitration Committee</a> is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration">Wikipedia arbitration process</a>. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BAN">site bans</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TBAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TBAN">topic bans</a>, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy">arbitration policy</a> describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. </p><p>If you wish to participate in the 2017 election, please review <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2017/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2017/Candidates">the candidates</a> and submit your choices on the <b><a href="/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/400" title="Special:SecurePoll/vote/400">voting page</a></b>. <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Western_shogi_notation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Western_shogi_notation-2017-12-11T23:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Western_shogi_notation-2017-12-11T23:29:00.000Z"></span>Western shogi notation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Western_shogi_notation-2017-12-11T23:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=68" title="Edit section: Western shogi notation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IanOsgood-2017-12-11T23:29:00.000Z-Western_shogi_notation"></span>Back in 23 August, you seem to have changed the row designator for all shogi notation from [a-i] to [1-9]. Although this is closer to Japanese notation, it is not what I have seen elsewhere in Western shogi literature. --<a href="/wiki/User:IanOsgood" title="User:IanOsgood">IanOsgood</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IanOsgood" title="User talk:IanOsgood">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-IanOsgood-2017-12-11T23:29:00.000Z-Western_shogi_notation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 11 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IanOsgood-2017-12-11T23:29:00.000Z-Western_shogi_notation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IanOsgood-2017-12-11T23:29:00.000Z-Western_shogi_notation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-12-12T00:51:00.000Z-IanOsgood-2017-12-11T23:29:00.000Z"></span>replied here: <a href="/wiki/Talk:Shogi#Problem_of_notation_in_all_(very_interesting)_Wikipedia_shogi_articles" title="Talk:Shogi">Talk:Shogi#Problem_of_notation_in_all_(very_interesting)_Wikipedia_shogi_articles</a> – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2017-12-12T00:51:00.000Z-IanOsgood-2017-12-11T23:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:51, 12 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-12-12T00:51:00.000Z-IanOsgood-2017-12-11T23:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2017-12-12T00:51:00.000Z-IanOsgood-2017-12-11T23:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hiura" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hiura-2018-01-14T05:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hiura-2018-01-14T05:44:00.000Z"></span>Hiura<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hiura-2018-01-14T05:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=69" title="Edit section: Hiura"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xezbeth-2018-01-14T05:44:00.000Z-Hiura"></span>Please don't create redirects to one person when there are several existing articles of other people already. If I don't notice them then it might take a decade for someone else to. —<a href="/wiki/User:Xezbeth" title="User:Xezbeth">Xezbeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xezbeth" title="User talk:Xezbeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Xezbeth-2018-01-14T05:44:00.000Z-Hiura" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:44, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xezbeth-2018-01-14T05:44:00.000Z-Hiura"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xezbeth-2018-01-14T05:44:00.000Z-Hiura"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-01-14T14:54:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-01-14T05:44:00.000Z"></span>i wasnt aware. If there isn't a disambig page for the name, then i wouldnt know, of course. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2018-01-14T14:54:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-01-14T05:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:54, 14 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-01-14T14:54:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-01-14T05:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-01-14T14:54:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-01-14T05:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discussion_at_User_talk:Wbm1058#Failed_page-swap" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_at_User_talk:Wbm1058#Failed_page-swap-2018-01-28T01:31:00.000Z"><span id="Discussion_at_User_talk:Wbm1058.23Failed_page-swap"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_at_User_talk:Wbm1058#Failed_page-swap-2018-01-28T01:31:00.000Z"></span>Discussion at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wbm1058#Failed_page-swap" title="User talk:Wbm1058">User talk:Wbm1058#Failed page-swap</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_at_User_talk:Wbm1058#Failed_page-swap-2018-01-28T01:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=70" title="Edit section: Discussion at User talk:Wbm1058#Failed page-swap"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Usernamekiran-2018-01-28T01:31:00.000Z-Discussion_at_User_talk:Wbm1058#Failed_page-swap"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/15px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/23px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/30px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png 2x" data-file-width="32" data-file-height="32"/></span></span> You are invited to join the discussion at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wbm1058#Failed_page-swap" title="User talk:Wbm1058">User talk:Wbm1058#Failed page-swap</a>. —<span style="font-size: 104%; letter-spacing:1.5pt;"><span class="monospaced" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Usernamekiran" title="User talk:Usernamekiran"><span style="letter-spacing:1pt;"><b>(talk)</b></span></a></span></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Usernamekiran-2018-01-28T01:31:00.000Z-Discussion_at_User_talk:Wbm1058#Failed_page-swap" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:31, 28 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Usernamekiran-2018-01-28T01:31:00.000Z-Discussion_at_User_talk:Wbm1058#Failed_page-swap"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Usernamekiran-2018-01-28T01:31:00.000Z-Discussion_at_User_talk:Wbm1058#Failed_page-swap"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hiroshi_Kamiya" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hiroshi_Kamiya-2018-02-07T07:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hiroshi_Kamiya-2018-02-07T07:47:00.000Z"></span>Hiroshi Kamiya<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hiroshi_Kamiya-2018-02-07T07:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=71" title="Edit section: Hiroshi Kamiya"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:47:00.000Z-Hiroshi_Kamiya"></span>I feel like I'm repeating myself, but <i>please</i> do not usurp primary topics like this. The voice actor is the primary topic by a huge margin. Use a hatnote. —<a href="/wiki/User:Xezbeth" title="User:Xezbeth">Xezbeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xezbeth" title="User talk:Xezbeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:47:00.000Z-Hiroshi_Kamiya" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 7 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:47:00.000Z-Hiroshi_Kamiya"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:47:00.000Z-Hiroshi_Kamiya"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T07:55:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:47:00.000Z"></span>Nothing is being usurped. I guess i object to that characterization. I'm disambiguating the articles when the situation calls for it. If other concerned editors like yourself want to establish an article as <i>primary</i> by some arbitrary criteria, then that's fine. I don't object. However, it's not something that i find very interesting and so i leave it to others to do such things. I find the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation" title="Wikipedia:Disambiguation">Wikipedia:Disambiguation</a> guidelines rather vague and not well-defined. (Actually, in my opinion, it seems like it would save many hours of time (including time spent arguing) to completely dispense with primariness at all. Well, i won't try to convince anyone of this.) – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T07:55:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:55, 7 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T07:55:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T07:55:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:56:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T07:55:00.000Z"></span>I read that boilerplate response last time. In which case, stop moving pages if you don't understand how primary topics work. —<a href="/wiki/User:Xezbeth" title="User:Xezbeth">Xezbeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xezbeth" title="User talk:Xezbeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:56:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T07:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 7 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:56:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T07:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:56:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T07:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T08:44:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:56:00.000Z"></span>Why? If my edits of initiating the integration of new shogi pages into the rest of wikipedia are getting your attention so that you will make a decision about these things, then my edits have achieved their goal.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I thought it would be best to integrate them, but i dont really want to spend much time on it as my interest is in generating new content rather than interlinking info bits. So, i'm leaving that part to folks like you.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>If this is bad, i'll stop and only concern myself with shogi content. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T08:44:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:44, 7 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T08:44:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T08:44:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T07:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T08:48:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T08:44:00.000Z"></span>It's just the page moves that I have an issue with. <a href="/wiki/Hiroshi_Kamiya" title="Hiroshi Kamiya">Hiroshi Kamiya</a> has been at its current title since 2006; he's an extremely prolific voice actor with hundreds of inbound links and thousands of page views a month. Moving it will always be controversial, so there cannot be justification for moving it without using a move request via <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves" title="Wikipedia:Requested moves">Wikipedia:Requested moves</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:Xezbeth" title="User:Xezbeth">Xezbeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xezbeth" title="User talk:Xezbeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T08:48:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T08:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:48, 7 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T08:48:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T08:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T08:48:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T08:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T20:11:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T08:48:00.000Z"></span>Ok.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I dont see the controversy. Following the "the primary meaning among a general audience" guideline, then i would imagine that neither person is generally known if i just ask random people on the street. (This is my speculation here. Obviously, there must be some threshold value of n% of people known topic X, which i havent specified either.) Thus, i would give them equal weighting. It seems like this is a case of "topic[s] [that] may have principal relevance for a specific group of people" – namely, cartoon watchers vs shogi players.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Now, since cartoons are more part of pop culture unlike shogi, which is traditional Japanese culture, then the group of cartoon watchers is, of course, larger by definition as it's pop culture. But, it isnt clear to me that wikipedia or encyclopedias in general should be biased toward pop culture over traditional culture.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>You mentioned page views. (The date of page creation is, of course, irrelevant.) However, the use of that information in determining the definition of <i>primary</i> is not explicitly stated. The page gives two examples where the primary topics are not the most popular in terms of page views. In fact, the page says "no absolute rules for determining whether a primary topic exists and what it is." If the defining of <i>primary</i> in practice (and not what is written on that page) is determined by page views, then the practice should be clearly stated as such in the disambiguation guidelines. Like: <i>the primary topic is the page with the most page views except (a) when one is a city, in which case the city will be primary, (b) arbitrary exception #2, (c) arbitrary exception #3, and so.</i></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>As the guidelines read now, there is no way to determine whether something is primary except by talking with other editors. So, an edit of mine (including a page move) here gets a consensus (where consensus = your opinion). So, there can be no usurpation. I am forcing a decision, which is my intention. If i move a page after your decision, then that would be usurpation as the primary status would then be known.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>You can, of course, just tell me what the guidelines are and i can follow them. But, why arent they on that page? Since i'm not a wikipedia disambiguation expert, how would i even know that what you tell me is even correct? – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T20:11:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T08:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 7 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T20:11:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T08:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-02-07T20:11:00.000Z-Xezbeth-2018-02-07T08:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="reversions_of_Spiderjerky_(shogi_without_macron)" data-mw-thread-id="h-reversions_of_Spiderjerky_(shogi_without_macron)-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z"><span id="reversions_of_Spiderjerky_.28shogi_without_macron.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-reversions_of_Spiderjerky_(shogi_without_macron)-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z"></span>reversions of <a href="/wiki/User:Spiderjerky" title="User:Spiderjerky">Spiderjerky</a> (shogi without macron)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-reversions_of_Spiderjerky_(shogi_without_macron)-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=72" title="Edit section: reversions of Spiderjerky (shogi without macron)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z-reversions_of_Spiderjerky_(shogi_without_macron)"></span>Hi, I was wondering if you might be able to do the same for the other articles moved (e.g. <a href="/wiki/Chu_shogi" title="Chu shogi">chu shogi</a>)? Some of them, like this one, are neither correct English nor correct Japanese (e.g. if <i>shogi</i> needs a macron, then so does <i>chu</i>). Sorry to bother you about this but there are too many for me to get through right away. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z-reversions_of_Spiderjerky_(shogi_without_macron)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 28 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z-reversions_of_Spiderjerky_(shogi_without_macron)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z-reversions_of_Spiderjerky_(shogi_without_macron)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:07:00.000Z-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z"></span>I've reverted chu for now and left the others since they are not quite as wrong. If you could get to them first it'd be greatly appreciated; otherwise it may wait some hours before I can do it myself. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Double_sharp" title="User:Double sharp">Double sharp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Double_sharp" title="User talk:Double sharp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:07:00.000Z-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 28 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:07:00.000Z-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:07:00.000Z-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T02:17:00.000Z-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z"></span>Comment: I'm not sure if I'm on board with the change of "shogi" to "shōgi" for all of the category pages , article titles and in-article mentions, except when it's a romaji rendition of 将棋 in Japanese text. This change seems unecessary since shogi is pretty westernized by now as "shogi" in most publications and websites. You might find some examples of "shōgi" being every now and then, but that is (at least) these days, more of the exception than the rule. Perhaps this macron use in both "chu" and "shogi" is something which should be discussed. The best place to do that at the moment might be at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spiderjerky#Shogi_vs._shōgi" title="User talk:Spiderjerky">User talk:Spiderjerky#Shogi vs. shōgi</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T02:17:00.000Z-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:17, 28 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T02:17:00.000Z-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T02:17:00.000Z-Double_sharp-2018-02-28T00:02:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discussion_at_User_talk:Biografer#Shogi_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_at_User_talk:Biografer#Shogi_articles-2018-02-28T01:59:00.000Z"><span id="Discussion_at_User_talk:Biografer.23Shogi_articles"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_at_User_talk:Biografer#Shogi_articles-2018-02-28T01:59:00.000Z"></span>Discussion at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Biografer#Shogi_articles" title="User talk:Biografer">User talk:Biografer#Shogi articles</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_at_User_talk:Biografer#Shogi_articles-2018-02-28T01:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=73" title="Edit section: Discussion at User talk:Biografer#Shogi articles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T01:59:00.000Z-Discussion_at_User_talk:Biografer#Shogi_articles"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/15px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/23px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/30px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png 2x" data-file-width="32" data-file-height="32"/></span></span> You are invited to join the discussion at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Biografer#Shogi_articles" title="User talk:Biografer">User talk:Biografer#Shogi articles</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T01:59:00.000Z-Discussion_at_User_talk:Biografer#Shogi_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:59, 28 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T01:59:00.000Z-Discussion_at_User_talk:Biografer#Shogi_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T01:59:00.000Z-Discussion_at_User_talk:Biografer#Shogi_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T23:09:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T01:59:00.000Z"></span>I saw your post, but then thread has been removed so I guess I’ll comment here. About the links, I don’t remember which of the two of us originally added the links, but I tend to agree with the point you're making to keep them; however, I can also understand the points made by Beetstra (who does lots of EL cleanup) and Yunshui (an admin like yourself who has helped me before). Basically, it would be nice to have the links, but perhaps not essential. Still if you want to continue things at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:EL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:EL">WT:EL</a>, then this might be an interesting (and overdue?) way to possibly review the current guideline. The point you raised is an interesting one though that looks at links from a different perspective.</dd> <dd>As for the date format, I agree with you as well; however, I'm not against the use of all numerical dates per se and have used them when that was the style being used in the article. The issue in this case was that the dates were being mass converted based upon some misconception that Japanese shogi (no macron <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span></abbr>) needed to use such a format. It makes no difference as to whether mdy or dmy is used, but the template and article body uses the former, which is why I switched to that when cleaning up/expanding the stubs you created. If dmy is preferred then the template syntax tweaked. All numerical could be possibly made to work as well I guess though it would seem inappropriate for actual article content.</dd> <dd>The other thing about the "expand" template dates was not something you commented on, but basically the date you added the template to the article was being changed to the current date like <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/Biografer/828126872" title="Special:Diff/Biografer/828126872">this</a>. Seems minor perhaps, but pages tagged with that template are probably categorized according to when the template was originally added, not when the template was reviewed. This is similar to how maintenace templates work, and changing the date makes it seem as if the template was just added. There's some information lost when the date is changed since editors assume the date indicates how long "this" has been an issue, and it might also mess with the categorization of the pages. I'm going to leave them as is to possibly avoid any further accusations of edit warring over this, exit, but you can restore the original dates if you want. One thing that came out of this discussion is something I’ve been thinking about for awhile and is something I will pose to you in a new thread a bit later today. — <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T23:09:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T01:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 28 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T23:09:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T01:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T23:09:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T01:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-01T23:28:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T23:09:00.000Z"></span>hi.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I dont know if the links are needed either. But, that should be determined on the merit of the links themselves and not the arbitrary wikipedia guideline. I guess wikipedia in general likes their guidelines long, complicated, bureaucratic. Not sure why. Perhaps it's to discourage new editors and maintain groups of elite knowledgeable editors? I dont know. But, i dont think it's worth time to try to change the guidelines since probably nobody wants to change them. (i obviously dont have a high opinion of this area of wikipedia.)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Always less confusing to have month names instead of month numbers. The order of year, month, day seems to be an arbitrary individual preference: any order should be fine.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Well, i dont know why the expand templates need to have dates anyway. As far as i can tell, these dates are just used to delete the <i>expand</i> requests if they are old (because some editors would prefer not to see them instead of adding content?). Doesnt seem important to me. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-01T23:28:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T23:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-01T23:28:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T23:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-01T23:28:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-02-28T23:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discussion_at_WT:JAPAN#Date_formats" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_at_WT:JAPAN#Date_formats-2018-03-01T05:21:00.000Z"><span id="Discussion_at_WT:JAPAN.23Date_formats"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_at_WT:JAPAN#Date_formats-2018-03-01T05:21:00.000Z"></span>Discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:JAPAN#Date_formats" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:JAPAN">WT:JAPAN#Date formats</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_at_WT:JAPAN#Date_formats-2018-03-01T05:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=74" title="Edit section: Discussion at WT:JAPAN#Date formats"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T05:21:00.000Z-Discussion_at_WT:JAPAN#Date_formats"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/15px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/23px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Farm-Fresh_eye.png/30px-Farm-Fresh_eye.png 2x" data-file-width="32" data-file-height="32"/></span></span> You are invited to join the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:JAPAN#Date_formats" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:JAPAN">WT:JAPAN#Date formats</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T05:21:00.000Z-Discussion_at_WT:JAPAN#Date_formats" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:21, 1 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T05:21:00.000Z-Discussion_at_WT:JAPAN#Date_formats"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T05:21:00.000Z-Discussion_at_WT:JAPAN#Date_formats"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="MOS_for_shogi" data-mw-thread-id="h-MOS_for_shogi-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-MOS_for_shogi-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z"></span>MOS for shogi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-MOS_for_shogi-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=75" title="Edit section: MOS for shogi"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z-MOS_for_shogi"></span>I've been thinking about this for awhile, but the events of yesterday have reminded me to ask you about it. Do you think it would be helpful to create some kind of MOS guideline for shogi related articles? Currently, there is pretty much only you and myself working regularly on shogi stuff and for the most part we seem to be in agreement about most things. However, the number of articles created over the past year or so has really increased the shogi presence in the encyclopedia, so it's a bit hard trying to keep track of them all. My thinking is that as more shogi articles are created, more editors are going to be helping to clean them up and imrpve them. So, any guidance which can be given will probably be seen as helpful. </p><p>Ideally, there would be some standardized format or guideline which could be applied to all article (mostly stuff from <a href="/wiki/MOS:MOS" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:MOS">MOS:MOS</a>), but there could be specific things related to shogi articles as well. It could cover the whole gamut of articles from BLPs, tournaments, openings, etc. and cover things such as image use, notability, templates, diagrams, notation, date formats, naming conventions, style of English, citations, etc. Right now, I'm just slowly working my way through the stubs you've created and trying to exapnd them. I'm sort of following a general format, but there have been variations based upon the particulars of each article. I'm not entirely sure this is the best way to approach this or whether the general format I've been following is really good, so there's probably lots of room for improvement. It might be possible to find others as well from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/Shogi" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Shogi">Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Shogi</a>, other related WikiProjects, and even those not interested in shogi per se but with specific knowledge about particular technical aspects like templates, etc. Moreover, it would be a gradual process which might over time as a postive side effect generate enough interest and participation to eventually establish a Shogi WikiProject. Everything could be done in a userspace sandbox for common use which can then be submitted for independent review once it's ready to go. </p><p>Any feedback on this would be appreciated and things like <a href="/wiki/MOS:JAPAN" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:JAPAN">MOS:JAPAN</a> or pages in <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_Manual_of_Style_(regional)" title="Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (regional)">Category:Wikipedia Manual of Style (regional)</a> can be used as a basic template just to get started. Specific references to the MOS may even eventually be suitable enough to propose adding to relevant community-wide policy/guideline pages. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z-MOS_for_shogi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:32, 1 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z-MOS_for_shogi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z-MOS_for_shogi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-02T19:41:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z"></span>I guess this is ok.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I wouldnt spend much time on it since the main issue for me is that most of the info on shogi is not in English and the stuff that is in English is not on the interwebs. So, i mostly want to spend time adding content over formatting. The formatting/style can always be changed later. But, if the content is never written, then it just doesnt exist.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Relatedly, there's a recommendation for academic folks writing a thesis/dissertation/paper to write in plain text first since some folks spend lots of time fiddling with formatting or bibliographic software stuff or whatever instead of writing the paper.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>As an extreme perverse example, imagine that we died in car accidents 6 months from now, then i guess shogi wikipedia growth will stop. But, after that, there will still be style tweakers that would fiddle with how our legacy looks – perhaps even decades after our deaths. Well, if we added more content before our demises, then the tweakers would have more to tweak.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>But, of course, it doesnt hurt to be standardized in form. And, really, you should just do whatever you feel is the most fun as we are volunteers after all. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-02T19:41:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 2 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-02T19:41:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-02T19:41:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-04T05:33:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z"></span>By the way, my edit summary of <i>really</i> was not what i intended. I intended it to be <i>reply,</i> but it was filled in by my browser's autocomplete/memory. Anyway, i just noticed it and thought that a <i>really</i> comment would change the interpretation of what i wrote above. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-04T05:33:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:33, 4 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-04T05:33:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-04T05:33:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-03-01T07:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-04T11:28:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-04T05:33:00.000Z"></span>"Really" or "Reply" both work for me. The context of each is bit different, but no blood no foul. Also, I appreciate your frank feedback on the MOS idea. It might be a grandiose idea (at least in the moment), but there was the notation discussion awhile back, then the shogi vs. shōgi, and finally the date formats which made me think it might have some value. Of course, an MOS probably wouldn't have prevented those three things from happening, but at the same time it would give something to link to when issues like those are encountered, etc. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2018-03-04T11:28:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-04T05:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:28, 4 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-04T11:28:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-04T05:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-04T11:28:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-04T05:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_12" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_12-2018-03-12T09:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_12-2018-03-12T09:05:00.000Z"></span>Disambiguation link notification for March 12<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_12-2018-03-12T09:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=76" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for March 12"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-2018-03-12T09:05:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_12"></span>Hi. 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FWIW, I just double the date parameters, whether that will even work I am not sure, but I do know they parameters can be adjusted per the needs of the page. Automatic archiving is not perfect, but it's better than no archiving at all. Manual archiving is possible, but that probably means that some kind of criteria needs to be established as to when to archive; otherwise, different people may be doing it at different times. FWIW< I think it's possible to use a template <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Faq" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Faq">faq</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> to create "sticky threads" in a way by adding links to significant talk page discussions so that at least the links are always visible on the main talk page. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2018-03-19T00:57:00.000Z-Talk:Shogi_archives" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:57, 19 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-19T00:57:00.000Z-Talk:Shogi_archives"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-19T00:57:00.000Z-Talk:Shogi_archives"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-19T02:03:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-03-19T00:57:00.000Z"></span>Ok. I think the manual disorganized way of archiving is fine as it only needs to be done when the page takes too long to a person's computer. Otherwise, it's better to never archive in my opinion. I would guess that most folks these days will be more likely to scroll down a page than take the time to click on multiple links to separate archive pages. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-19T02:03:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-03-19T00:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:03, 19 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-19T02:03:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-03-19T00:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-19T02:03:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2018-03-19T00:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-19T03:01:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-19T02:03:00.000Z"></span>Archiving began as a result of <a href="/wiki/Talk:Shogi/Archive_2#Time_to_archive?" title="Talk:Shogi/Archive 2">Talk:Shogi/Archive 2#Time to archive?</a>. Might be a good time to reassess to see if manual or no archiving is preferred. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2018-03-19T03:01:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-19T02:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:01, 19 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-19T03:01:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-19T02:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2018-03-19T03:01:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-03-19T02:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 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id="c-DPL_bot-2018-03-19T09:14:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_19"></span>An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/wiki/NHK_Cup_(shogi)" title="NHK Cup (shogi)">NHK Cup (shogi)</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Hiroshi_Kobayashi" class="mw-disambig" title="Hiroshi Kobayashi">Hiroshi Kobayashi</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/NHK_Cup_%28shogi%29">check to confirm</a> | <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab_solver.py/NHK_Cup_%28shogi%29?client=notify">fix with Dab solver</a>). </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-DPL_bot-2018-03-19T09:14:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:14, 19 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-2018-03-19T09:14:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_19"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-2018-03-19T09:14:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_March_19"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Help_Needed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Help_Needed-2018-03-22T20:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Help_Needed-2018-03-22T20:26:00.000Z"></span>Help Needed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Help_Needed-2018-03-22T20:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=79" title="Edit section: Help Needed"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MAXNP-2018-03-22T20:26:00.000Z-Help_Needed"></span>Hi admin can you please review <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Prakash_Neupane&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Prakash Neupane (page does not exist)">draft:Prakash Neupane</a> Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:MAXNP" title="User:MAXNP">MAXNP</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MAXNP" title="User talk:MAXNP">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-MAXNP-2018-03-22T20:26:00.000Z-Help_Needed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:26, 22 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MAXNP-2018-03-22T20:26:00.000Z-Help_Needed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MAXNP-2018-03-22T20:26:00.000Z-Help_Needed"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C.Fred-2018-03-22T20:29:00.000Z-MAXNP-2018-03-22T20:26:00.000Z"></span>Heads up: this user is canvassing admins trying to get a review. —<b><a href="/wiki/User:C.Fred" title="User:C.Fred">C.Fred</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:C.Fred" title="User talk:C.Fred">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-C.Fred-2018-03-22T20:29:00.000Z-MAXNP-2018-03-22T20:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:29, 22 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C.Fred-2018-03-22T20:29:00.000Z-MAXNP-2018-03-22T20:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C.Fred-2018-03-22T20:29:00.000Z-MAXNP-2018-03-22T20:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="{{event_date_and_age}}_on_shogi_players" data-mw-thread-id="h-{{event_date_and_age}}_on_shogi_players-2018-04-01T11:53:00.000Z"><span id=".7B.7Bevent_date_and_age.7D.7D_on_shogi_players"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{{event_date_and_age}}_on_shogi_players-2018-04-01T11:53:00.000Z"></span><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Event_date_and_age" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Event date and age">event date and age</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> on shogi players<span data-mw-comment-end="h-{{event_date_and_age}}_on_shogi_players-2018-04-01T11:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=80" title="Edit section: {{event date and age}} on shogi players"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hsarrazin-2018-04-01T11:53:00.000Z-{{event_date_and_age}}_on_shogi_players"></span>Hello, </p><p>I noticed you added this template, for "achieved professional status" on many shogi players. I understand what you wanted to do, but please be aware that this template is just a redirect to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Death_date_and_age" title="Template:Death date and age">death date and age</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, which means that any machine, script or bot that reads it, reads it as "death date". </p><p>Thus, those players were wrongly added false death dates on wikidata at least twice, some more than twice ; it caused disagreements and it was difficult to explain to non english-speaking people the cause of this ; and it took some time to understand the origin of it. </p><p>Do you think something could be done to avoid this confusion ? maybe change the template or remove the redirect ? because contributors who are aware of this can avoid the trap, but others may fall in it, again, and again, and again... </p><p>You may contact me on wikidata to talk about it and try and find a solution :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Hsarrazin" title="User:Hsarrazin">Hsarrazin</a> (<a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Hsarrazin" class="extiw" title="d:User talk:Hsarrazin">talk on wd</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Hsarrazin-2018-04-01T11:53:00.000Z-{{event_date_and_age}}_on_shogi_players" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 1 April 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hsarrazin-2018-04-01T11:53:00.000Z-{{event_date_and_age}}_on_shogi_players"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hsarrazin-2018-04-01T11:53:00.000Z-{{event_date_and_age}}_on_shogi_players"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-04-01T18:28:00.000Z-Hsarrazin-2018-04-01T11:53:00.000Z"></span>hi.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>i dont know much about it.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>i put this comment here on the talk page of the template: <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Infobox_shogi_professional" title="Template talk:Infobox shogi professional">Template talk:Infobox shogi professional</a>.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>it does seem like that redirect is incorrect. However, it was done 8 years ago for unknown reasons unrelated to shogi player templates. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2018-04-01T18:28:00.000Z-Hsarrazin-2018-04-01T11:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 1 April 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-04-01T18:28:00.000Z-Hsarrazin-2018-04-01T11:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-04-01T18:28:00.000Z-Hsarrazin-2018-04-01T11:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="How_can_we_make_an_articles_in_Meetei_Mayek_script_as_well_as_in_Meetei_language_can_be_allowed_to_Wikipedia?" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_can_we_make_an_articles_in_Meetei_Mayek_script_as_well_as_in_Meetei_language-2018-06-02T08:23:00.000Z"><span id="How_can_we_make_an_articles_in_Meetei_Mayek_script_as_well_as_in_Meetei_language_can_be_allowed_to_Wikipedia.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_can_we_make_an_articles_in_Meetei_Mayek_script_as_well_as_in_Meetei_language-2018-06-02T08:23:00.000Z"></span>How can we make an articles in Meetei Mayek script as well as in Meetei language can be allowed to Wikipedia?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_can_we_make_an_articles_in_Meetei_Mayek_script_as_well_as_in_Meetei_language-2018-06-02T08:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=81" title="Edit section: How can we make an articles in Meetei Mayek script as well as in Meetei language can be allowed to Wikipedia?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Awangba_Mangang-2018-06-02T08:23:00.000Z-How_can_we_make_an_articles_in_Meetei_Mayek_script_as_well_as_in_Meetei_language"></span>Hi </p> <pre>give me some advice or process to make allow Meetei language Wikipedia page which can be written in Meetei Mayek script <a href="/wiki/User:Awangba_Mangang" title="User:Awangba Mangang">Awangba Mangang</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Awangba_Mangang" title="User talk:Awangba Mangang">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Awangba_Mangang-2018-06-02T08:23:00.000Z-How_can_we_make_an_articles_in_Meetei_Mayek_script_as_well_as_in_Meetei_language" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:23, 2 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Awangba_Mangang-2018-06-02T08:23:00.000Z-How_can_we_make_an_articles_in_Meetei_Mayek_script_as_well_as_in_Meetei_language"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Awangba_Mangang-2018-06-02T08:23:00.000Z-How_can_we_make_an_articles_in_Meetei_Mayek_script_as_well_as_in_Meetei_language"></span> </pre> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_kitten_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_kitten_for_you!-2018-06-02T11:21:00.000Z"><span id="A_kitten_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_kitten_for_you!-2018-06-02T11:21:00.000Z"></span>A kitten for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_kitten_for_you!-2018-06-02T11:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=82" title="Edit section: A kitten for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Awangba_Mangang-2018-06-02T11:21:00.000Z-A_kitten_for_you!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Young_cats.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Young_cats.jpg/150px-Young_cats.jpg" decoding="async" width="150" height="113" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Young_cats.jpg/225px-Young_cats.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Young_cats.jpg/300px-Young_cats.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2272" data-file-height="1704"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>I don't like kitten </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Awangba_Mangang" title="User:Awangba Mangang">Awangba Mangang</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Awangba_Mangang" title="User talk:Awangba Mangang">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Awangba_Mangang-2018-06-02T11:21:00.000Z-A_kitten_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 2 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Awangba_Mangang-2018-06-02T11:21:00.000Z-A_kitten_for_you!"><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Awangba_Mangang-2018-06-02T11:23:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Original Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">I like it <a href="/wiki/User:Awangba_Mangang" title="User:Awangba Mangang">Awangba Mangang</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Awangba_Mangang" title="User talk:Awangba Mangang">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Awangba_Mangang-2018-06-02T11:23:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:23, 2 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Awangba_Mangang-2018-06-02T11:23:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Awangba_Mangang-2018-06-02T11:23:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination_for_deletion_of_Module:Shogiboard" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Module:Shogiboard-2018-06-04T20:45:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Module:Shogiboard-2018-06-04T20:45:00.000Z"></span>Nomination for deletion of Module:Shogiboard<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Module:Shogiboard-2018-06-04T20:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=84" title="Edit section: Nomination for deletion of Module:Shogiboard"><span>edit</span></a><span 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You are invited to comment on the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2018_June_4#Module:Shogiboard" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 June 4">the module's entry on the Templates for discussion page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">{{3x|p}}ery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Pppery-2018-06-04T20:45:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Module:Shogiboard" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 4 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-2018-06-04T20:45:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Module:Shogiboard"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-2018-06-04T20:45:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Module:Shogiboard"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Axininca_important_for_linguistic_theory" data-mw-thread-id="h-Axininca_important_for_linguistic_theory-2018-09-08T07:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Axininca_important_for_linguistic_theory-2018-09-08T07:27:00.000Z"></span>Axininca important for linguistic theory<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Axininca_important_for_linguistic_theory-2018-09-08T07:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=85" title="Edit section: Axininca important for linguistic theory"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manissero-2018-09-08T07:27:00.000Z-Axininca_important_for_linguistic_theory"></span>I would like to ask you to give some reference for the statement that <a href="/wiki/Axininca_language" class="mw-redirect" title="Axininca language">Axininca</a> is important for linguistic theory. "It's actually famous" doesn't sound as a serious ground. If it's so important, you should be able to give many references that use this language to support some linguistic theories. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Manissero&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Manissero (page does not exist)">Manissero</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Manissero&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Manissero (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Manissero" title="Special:Contributions/Manissero">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Manissero-2018-09-08T07:27:00.000Z-Axininca_important_for_linguistic_theory" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:27, 8 September 2018 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manissero-2018-09-08T07:27:00.000Z-Axininca_important_for_linguistic_theory"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manissero-2018-09-08T07:27:00.000Z-Axininca_important_for_linguistic_theory"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-08T08:27:00.000Z-Manissero-2018-09-08T07:27:00.000Z"></span>There's already a reference in the article. The McCarthy & Prince article is one of the seminal papers on Optimality Theory (which is probably the most influential theory in phonology in recent times) and this paper heavily uses Axininca data to support the theory. There are, of course, other papers written with this language's data. McCarthy & Prince did not discover the language – it was already known to theorists based on Payne's work. If you want more references, how many do you want mentioned? – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-08T08:27:00.000Z-Manissero-2018-09-08T07:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:27, 8 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-08T08:27:00.000Z-Manissero-2018-09-08T07:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-08T08:27:00.000Z-Manissero-2018-09-08T07:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manissero-2018-09-10T07:31:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-08T08:27:00.000Z"></span>You raise here a good question: how many references are needed to say that this language is important for phonological theory? If there is only one reference, the statement could be: "this language has been used by X to support his/her views in phonological theory" --or something similar. If there were two references, the statement could be the same saying "this language has been used by X and X..." If there were more references, probably it would be better to say "this language has been used by several authors (X, X, X...)..." If you have a very high number of references, it would make little sense to make two lines between brackets, so maybe four or five references as examples would suffice. So, as for many things in life, there isn't an exact answer to your question, but obviously one reference doesn't mean that this language "has figured quite prominent in linguistic theory involving phonology and morphology", as the article says. Moreover, which are the references for morphology? I find the present statement quite inexact. I propose to change it for some statement similar to those I have proposed depending on the number of references.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Manissero&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Manissero (page does not exist)">Manissero</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Manissero&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Manissero (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Manissero-2018-09-10T07:31:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-08T08:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:31, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manissero-2018-09-10T07:31:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-08T08:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Manissero-2018-09-10T07:31:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-08T08:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-10T22:58:00.000Z-Manissero-2018-09-10T07:31:00.000Z"></span>i listed several references to theoretical stuff.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>several works are about reduplication. Now, as i guess you know, reduplication concerns both morphosyntax and phonology. I simply added <i>morphology</i> due to the discussions of Axininca reduplication. However, the authors are pretty much only concerned with Axininca reduplication as it informs phonological issues. So, one could argue that including <i>morphology</i> to that statement is a mischaracterization of the literature. And, i wouldnt disagree, i was just being imprecise.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>You will also find Axininca data in many phonology course handouts – many of which can be found online these days.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Obviously, it would be good to add the data that the theoreticians have been so interested in, but i'm feeling more like adding japanese chess info to wikipedia instead of linguistic info since japanese chess is even more esoteric and hard to come by in non-japanese languages. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-10T22:58:00.000Z-Manissero-2018-09-10T07:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:58, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-10T22:58:00.000Z-Manissero-2018-09-10T07:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-10T22:58:00.000Z-Manissero-2018-09-10T07:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-10T22:58:00.000Z-Manissero-2018-09-10T07:31:00.000Z-1"></span>– <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-10T22:58:00.000Z-Manissero-2018-09-10T07:31:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:58, 10 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-10T22:58:00.000Z-Manissero-2018-09-10T07:31:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-10T22:58:00.000Z-Manissero-2018-09-10T07:31:00.000Z-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Manissero-2018-09-11T06:40:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-10T22:58:00.000Z"></span>Well, I have to admit that I'm impressed with the number of references you added. I had thought that the statement was simply false, given that there were some clear mistakes in the article, which I have corrected (e.g. there is no glottal stop in Payne's grammar, but it was written in the consonants table). Thank you for the information, I didn't know that this language has been so much used for theory.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Manissero&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Manissero (page does not exist)">Manissero</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Manissero&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Manissero (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Manissero-2018-09-11T06:40:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-10T22:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:40, 11 September 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Manissero-2018-09-11T06:40:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2018-09-10T22:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span 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All of these players are from mainland Tokyo - they're not from the Izu Islands or Ogasawara Islands, so they can be added to the more precise category. --<a href="/wiki/User:Prosperosity" title="User:Prosperosity">Prosperosity</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Prosperosity" title="User talk:Prosperosity">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T06:25:00.000Z-Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo_Metropolis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:25, 18 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T06:25:00.000Z-Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo_Metropolis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T06:25:00.000Z-Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo_Metropolis"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-01-18T06:59:00.000Z-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T06:25:00.000Z"></span>Hi. It's simply to correspond to the Japanese language wikipedia.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>The <i>tokyo metropolis</i> corresponds to <i>tokyou-to,</i> which is the 'greater' tokyo area (or 'tokyo prefecture') while just <i>tokyo</i> corresponds to <i>tokyou-to-kubu,</i> which is 'tokyo proper' or 'the special wards of tokyo' (or 'tokyo city') – this is the smaller region inside of <i>tokyou-to.</i> Japanese folks (at least if they live in tokyo) usually make a distinction between the two.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Of the course, the problem here may be that the English word <i>Tokyo</i> (on wikipedia) doesnt really mean <i>tokyou-to-kubu</i> and that the english language and japanese language categories are improperly linked (which probably will end up being a big mess....). – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-01-18T06:59:00.000Z-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T06:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:59, 18 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-01-18T06:59:00.000Z-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T06:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-01-18T06:59:00.000Z-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T06:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-01-18T07:04:00.000Z-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T06:25:00.000Z"></span>Just as an example, <a href="/wiki/Tama,_Tokyo" title="Tama, Tokyo">Tama, Tokyo</a> is inside of <i>tokyou-to</i> 'greater tokyo' but it's not inside of <i>tokyou-to-kubu</i> 'tokyo city proper.' (And, Tama isn't on a small island either.) – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-01-18T07:04:00.000Z-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T06:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:04, 18 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-01-18T07:04:00.000Z-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T06:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-01-18T07:04:00.000Z-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T06:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T07:43:00.000Z-Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo_Metropolis"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Tama_in_Tokyo_Prefecture_Ja.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Tama_in_Tokyo_Prefecture_Ja.svg/220px-Tama_in_Tokyo_Prefecture_Ja.svg.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="168" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Tama_in_Tokyo_Prefecture_Ja.svg/330px-Tama_in_Tokyo_Prefecture_Ja.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Tama_in_Tokyo_Prefecture_Ja.svg/440px-Tama_in_Tokyo_Prefecture_Ja.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="800" data-file-height="610"/></a><figcaption> You can see where Tama is with respect to <i>tokyou-to-kubu,</i> which is the more blueish purple area on the right side of this map.</figcaption></figure> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I understand the different distinctions of Tokyo well, but I don't understand what you're trying to do - what distinction are you making between the categories of <a href="/wiki/Category:Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo_Metropolis" title="Category:Professional shogi players from Tokyo Metropolis">Category:Professional shogi players from Tokyo Metropolis</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo" title="Category:Professional shogi players from Tokyo">Category:Professional shogi players from Tokyo</a>?</dd> <dd>As it currently stands on the English Wikipedia, the categories are split as such:</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Category:People_from_Tokyo_Metropolis" title="Category:People from Tokyo Metropolis">Category:People from Tokyo Metropolis</a> → All Tokyo-to people. <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Category:People_from_the_Izu_Islands" title="Category:People from the Izu Islands">Category:People from the Izu Islands</a> → All people from Izu</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Category:People_from_Tokyo" title="Category:People from Tokyo">Category:People from Tokyo</a> → Everyone who lives in the 23-ku and Tama <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Category:People_from_Western_Tokyo" title="Category:People from Western Tokyo">Category:People from Western Tokyo</a> → Tama (but this category is barely used)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>The Japanese Wikipedia categorisation is different, but it's an entirely different Wiki with different policies/conventions to the English Wiki, which splits the categories like:</dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:%E6%9D%B1%E4%BA%AC%E9%83%BD%E5%87%BA%E8%BA%AB%E3%81%AE%E4%BA%BA%E7%89%A9&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:東京都出身の人物 (page does not exist)">Category:東京都出身の人物</a> → All Tokyo-to people. <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:%E6%9D%B1%E4%BA%AC%E9%83%BD%E5%8C%BA%E9%83%A8%E5%87%BA%E8%BA%AB%E3%81%AE%E4%BA%BA%E7%89%A9&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:東京都区部出身の人物 (page does not exist)">Category:東京都区部出身の人物</a> → All 23-ku people</dd></dl></dd> <dd>To me, the category <a href="/wiki/Category:Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo" title="Category:Professional shogi players from Tokyo">Category:Professional shogi players from Tokyo</a> should include everyone from the 23-ku and Tama as per it's parent category 'People from Tokyo', and <a href="/wiki/Category:Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo_Metropolis" title="Category:Professional shogi players from Tokyo Metropolis">Category:Professional shogi players from Tokyo Metropolis</a> should only include outliers (e.g. people from Izu or Iwo-Jima or somewhere), otherwise there's no distinction between the two categories. --<a href="/wiki/User:Prosperosity" title="User:Prosperosity">Prosperosity</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Prosperosity" title="User talk:Prosperosity">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T07:43:00.000Z-Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo_Metropolis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:43, 18 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T07:43:00.000Z-Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo_Metropolis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T07:43:00.000Z-Professional_shogi_players_from_Tokyo_Metropolis"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-01-18T20:21:00.000Z-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T07:43:00.000Z"></span>You wrote:</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>"but I don't understand what you're trying to do - what distinction are you making"</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>The distinction is what I wrote above – namely, the difference between tokyo city 東京都区部 ('tokyo') vs tokyo prefecture 東京都 ('tokyo metropolis'), which is what the correspondence between 東京都区部出身の人物:People from Tokyo and 東京都出身の人物:People from Tokyo Metropolis assumes.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>What you're saying is that 'Tokyo' on en.wiki 'Tokyo' means something that has no corresponding definition in Japanese and, therefore, the link between 'Tokyo' and 東京都区部 is incorrect. Instead, 'Tokyo' = (東京都区部 + nonisland parts of 東京都) while 東京都区部 should have no corresponding category.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Well, i dont know what en.wiki should follow. What is the definition of 'Tokyo' on en.wiki? Is the same definition consistently used here? What you suggest is not what Japanese folks generally think. If en.wiki uses different definitions than what is in Japanese, then all categories using 'Tokyo' with this more expansive nonJapanese definition should be delinked from the ja.wiki categories. Otherwise, it's a false correspondence that will mislead people like me. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-01-18T20:21:00.000Z-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T07:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:21, 18 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-01-18T20:21:00.000Z-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T07:43:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-01-18T20:21:00.000Z-Prosperosity-2019-01-18T07:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Red_link" data-mw-thread-id="h-Red_link-2019-04-30T01:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Red_link-2019-04-30T01:44:00.000Z"></span>Red link<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Red_link-2019-04-30T01:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=89" title="Edit section: Red link"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T01:44:00.000Z-Red_link"></span>I added a red link to the heat-not-burn tobacco product article I just expanded. Can you create an article for Sendai Pageant of Starlight or should I just remove the red link if it is not notable. <a href="/wiki/User:QuackGuru" title="User:QuackGuru"><b style="color: #e34234;">QuackGuru</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QuackGuru" title="User talk:QuackGuru"><span style="color: #B02200;">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T01:44:00.000Z-Red_link" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:44, 30 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T01:44:00.000Z-Red_link"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T01:44:00.000Z-Red_link"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-04-30T03:31:00.000Z-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T01:44:00.000Z"></span>Hi. Well, i know nothing about heatnotburn tobacco. I was just surprised when i recently read a news article about how vaping stuff is illegal in Japan so that they use this heatnotburn stuff instead, which i had never heard of. So, i clicked around wikipedia a bit to see what it was and made a little edit after reading one source. I'm not really comfortable editing anything else unless i read a substantial amount of medical articles. And, it's not like i'm trained in medicine or pharmacology or biology or whatever anyway, so i couldnt be sure that i would be able to appropriately evaluate the articles. And, i'm actually not that interested in it, so i dont have so much motivation to learn about it.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>i think i'm best editing in areas that i know things about. (beside the general copyediting, i think wikipedia is best served by editors who know their subjects well.)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>So, sorry, but i respectfully decline your offer with regret.... peace – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-04-30T03:31:00.000Z-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T01:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:31, 30 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-04-30T03:31:00.000Z-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T01:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-04-30T03:31:00.000Z-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T01:44:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T05:36:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-04-30T03:31:00.000Z"></span>I will leave the red link to Sendai Pageant of Starlight for now. If it is removed I won't restore the red link. I thought an article on it would be really nice. Look at those <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=PN3HXNTzI9290PEPu6uquAU&q=Sendai+Pageant+of+Starlight&btnK=Google+Search&oq=Sendai+Pageant+of+Starlight&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0j0i22i30l2.2644.2644..4544...0.0..0.121.121.0j1......0....2j1..gws-wiz.....0.V3-o2qvqkrA">beautiful pictures</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Sendai+Pageant+of+Starlight&tbm=isch&source=hp&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjsmIb_ivfhAhXVIjQIHYF3Cl8Q7Al6BAgIEA0&cshid=1556602308336136&biw=1280&bih=626&dpr=1.25">[6]</a>. It may be possible to import an article written in Japanese if there is an article written in Japanese. <a href="/wiki/User:QuackGuru" title="User:QuackGuru"><b style="color: #e34234;">QuackGuru</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QuackGuru" title="User talk:QuackGuru"><span style="color: #B02200;">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T05:36:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-04-30T03:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:36, 30 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T05:36:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-04-30T03:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T05:36:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-04-30T03:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-05-01T03:25:00.000Z-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T05:36:00.000Z"></span>Ah, i'm sorry. I assumed that was about tobacco, but i see it's not. Well, i dont know much about it. (never been to that part of japan either...) – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-05-01T03:25:00.000Z-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T05:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:25, 1 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-05-01T03:25:00.000Z-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T05:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-05-01T03:25:00.000Z-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T05:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QuackGuru-2019-05-01T17:40:00.000Z-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T05:36:00.000Z"></span>there's a japanese wiki page: <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/SENDAI%E5%85%89%E3%81%AE%E3%83%9A%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88" class="extiw" title="ja:SENDAI光のページェント">ja:SENDAI光のページェント</a> <dl><dd>It would be great if it were rewritten for the US. Those images look wonderful. If there is a Japanese project for the US Wikipedia you could make a request for a new article on my behalf. Or you could start a stub with a link to the Japanese version to be transferred. <a href="/wiki/User:QuackGuru" title="User:QuackGuru"><b style="color: #e34234;">QuackGuru</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QuackGuru" title="User talk:QuackGuru"><span style="color: #B02200;">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-QuackGuru-2019-05-01T17:40:00.000Z-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T05:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 1 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QuackGuru-2019-05-01T17:40:00.000Z-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T05:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QuackGuru-2019-05-01T17:40:00.000Z-QuackGuru-2019-04-30T05:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2019_special_circular" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2019_special_circular-2019-05-04T02:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2019_special_circular-2019-05-04T02:23:00.000Z"></span>ArbCom 2019 special circular<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2019_special_circular-2019-05-04T02:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=90" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2019 special circular"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="notice" style="background:#fff1d2; border:1px solid #886644; padding:0.5em; margin:0.5em auto; min-height:40px; line-height:130.7%; font-weight: 130.7%;"> <table> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" style="padding: 0.5em 1em 0 0.25em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cameron11598-2019-05-04T02:23:00.000Z-ArbCom_2019_special_circular"></span><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Icon of a white exclamation mark within a black triangle" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Warning_sign_font_awesome.svg/40px-Warning_sign_font_awesome.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Warning_sign_font_awesome.svg/60px-Warning_sign_font_awesome.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Warning_sign_font_awesome.svg/80px-Warning_sign_font_awesome.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> </td> <td><span style="font-size: 125%;"><b>Administrators <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators#Security" title="Wikipedia:Administrators">must</a> secure their accounts</b></span> <p>The Arbitration Committee may require a new RfA if your account is compromised. </p> <ul><li>Use strong, unique passwords for your Wikipedia account and associated email</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Special:ChangePassword" title="Special:ChangePassword">Change your password now</a> if your Wikipedia account password or email password is reused on another website, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords">exposed</a>, or weak</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:User_account_security#Two-factor_authentication_(2FA)" title="Wikipedia:User account security">Enable two-factor authentication now</a> for improved security</li></ul> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span style="color:#5871C6;cursor:pointer" class="mw-customtoggle-ArbCom_2019_special_circular"><span class="plainlinks clickbutton"><span class="mw-ui-button">View additional information</span></span></span> </p> </div><div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-ArbCom_2019_special_circular" style="display:none"> <div style="border-style: dotted; border-color: #886644; border-width: 0 3px 3px 3px; padding: 0 0.5em 0.5em 0.5em;"> <table style="border-left: 3px solid black; padding-left: 1em;"> <tbody><tr> <td> <dl><dt>Why have I received this message?</dt> <dd>All administrators are receiving it.</dd></dl> <dl><dt>What prompted you to send this message?</dt> <dd>Recently, several Wikipedia admin accounts were compromised. 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Thank you for your attention. For the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee">Arbitration Committee</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Cameron11598" title="User:Cameron11598">Cameron11598</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Cameron11598-2019-05-04T02:23:00.000Z-ArbCom_2019_special_circular" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:23, 4 May 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cameron11598-2019-05-04T02:23:00.000Z-ArbCom_2019_special_circular"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cameron11598-2019-05-04T02:23:00.000Z-ArbCom_2019_special_circular"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Administrator_account_security_(Correction_to_Arbcom_2019_special_circular)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Administrator_account_security_(Correction_to_Arbcom_2019_special_circular)-2019-05-04T21:03:00.000Z"><span id="Administrator_account_security_.28Correction_to_Arbcom_2019_special_circular.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Administrator_account_security_(Correction_to_Arbcom_2019_special_circular)-2019-05-04T21:03:00.000Z"></span>Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Administrator_account_security_(Correction_to_Arbcom_2019_special_circular)-2019-05-04T21:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=91" title="Edit section: Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cameron11598-2019-05-04T21:03:00.000Z-Administrator_account_security_(Correction_to_Arbcom_2019_special_circular)"></span>ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community. </p><p>Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators#Security" title="Wikipedia:Administrators">required</a> to "have strong passwords and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Personal_security_practices" title="Wikipedia:Personal security practices">follow appropriate personal security practices</a>." We have <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/891851004#Return_of_permissions_for_compromised_administrator_accounts" title="Special:PermanentLink/891851004">updated</a> our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:2FA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:2FA">two-factor authentication</a> remains an <i>optional</i> means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised. </p><p>We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered. </p><p>For the Arbitration Committee, -<a href="/wiki/User:Cameron11598" title="User:Cameron11598">Cameron11598</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Cameron11598-2019-05-04T21:03:00.000Z-Administrator_account_security_(Correction_to_Arbcom_2019_special_circular)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 4 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cameron11598-2019-05-04T21:03:00.000Z-Administrator_account_security_(Correction_to_Arbcom_2019_special_circular)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cameron11598-2019-05-04T21:03:00.000Z-Administrator_account_security_(Correction_to_Arbcom_2019_special_circular)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Queen_has_been_nominated_for_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Queen_has_been_nominated_for_discussion-2019-05-13T17:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Queen_has_been_nominated_for_discussion-2019-05-13T17:48:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:Queen" class="mw-disambig" title="Category:Queen">Category:Queen</a> has been nominated for discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Queen_has_been_nominated_for_discussion-2019-05-13T17:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=92" title="Edit section: Category:Queen has been nominated for discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crouch,_Swale-2019-05-13T17:48:00.000Z-Category:Queen_has_been_nominated_for_discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div><p><b><a href="/wiki/Category:Queen" class="mw-disambig" title="Category:Queen">Category:Queen</a></b>, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization" title="Wikipedia:Categorization">categorization</a> guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_May_13#Category:Queen" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 May 13">the category's entry</a></b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">categories for discussion</a> page. Thank you. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Crouch,_Swale" title="User:Crouch, Swale"><span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crouch,_Swale" title="User talk:Crouch, Swale"><span style="color:Blue">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Crouch,_Swale-2019-05-13T17:48:00.000Z-Category:Queen_has_been_nominated_for_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 13 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crouch,_Swale-2019-05-13T17:48:00.000Z-Category:Queen_has_been_nominated_for_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crouch,_Swale-2019-05-13T17:48:00.000Z-Category:Queen_has_been_nominated_for_discussion"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Shogi_opening_sequences" data-mw-thread-id="h-Shogi_opening_sequences-2019-05-22T16:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Shogi_opening_sequences-2019-05-22T16:42:00.000Z"></span>Shogi opening sequences<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Shogi_opening_sequences-2019-05-22T16:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=93" title="Edit section: Shogi opening sequences"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ahecht-2019-05-22T16:42:00.000Z-Shogi_opening_sequences"></span>The page <a href="/wiki/Shogi_opening_sequences" title="Shogi opening sequences">Shogi opening sequences</a> page you made has grown to the point that the Wikipedia parser isn't actually parsing all of the templates you have included. I would suggest that you might want to split it into multiple pages, and make sure to preview the page to check that it doesn't say "<span style="color:red">Warning: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_limits#Post-expand_include_size" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Template limits">Template include size is too large</a>. Some templates will not be included.</span>" at the top in preview mode. --<a href="/wiki/User:Ahecht" title="User:Ahecht">Ahecht</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ahecht" title="User talk:Ahecht"><span style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:-.3em;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br/>PAGE</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ahecht-2019-05-22T16:42:00.000Z-Shogi_opening_sequences" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 22 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ahecht-2019-05-22T16:42:00.000Z-Shogi_opening_sequences"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ahecht-2019-05-22T16:42:00.000Z-Shogi_opening_sequences"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ways_to_improve_Rushing_Silver" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ways_to_improve_Rushing_Silver-2019-06-18T20:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ways_to_improve_Rushing_Silver-2019-06-18T20:23:00.000Z"></span>Ways to improve Rushing Silver<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ways_to_improve_Rushing_Silver-2019-06-18T20:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=94" title="Edit section: Ways to improve Rushing Silver"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Boleyn-2019-06-18T20:23:00.000Z-Ways_to_improve_Rushing_Silver"></span>Hello, Ish ishwar, </p><p>Thanks for creating <a href="/wiki/Rushing_Silver" title="Rushing Silver">Rushing Silver</a>! I edit here too, under the username <a href="/wiki/User:Boleyn" title="User:Boleyn">Boleyn</a> and it's nice to meet you :-) </p><p>I wanted to let you know that <a href="/wiki/User:Boleyn" title="User:Boleyn">I</a> have tagged <a href="/wiki/Rushing_Silver" title="Rushing Silver">the page</a> as having some issues to fix, as a part of our <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">page curation process</a> and note that:- </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p>Please add your references.</p></blockquote> <p>The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, leave a comment here and prepend it with <code>{{Re|Boleyn}}</code>. And, don't forget to sign your reply with <code>~~~~</code> . For broader editing help, please visit the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE">Teahouse</a>. </p><p><small>Delivered via the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation/Help" title="Wikipedia:Page Curation/Help">Page Curation</a> tool, on behalf of the reviewer.</small> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Boleyn" title="User:Boleyn">Boleyn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boleyn" title="User talk:Boleyn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Boleyn-2019-06-18T20:23:00.000Z-Ways_to_improve_Rushing_Silver" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 18 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Boleyn-2019-06-18T20:23:00.000Z-Ways_to_improve_Rushing_Silver"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Boleyn-2019-06-18T20:23:00.000Z-Ways_to_improve_Rushing_Silver"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Need_Help_of_Chandrayaan-2_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Need_Help_of_Chandrayaan-2_Page-2019-07-23T16:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Need_Help_of_Chandrayaan-2_Page-2019-07-23T16:40:00.000Z"></span>Need Help of Chandrayaan-2 Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Need_Help_of_Chandrayaan-2_Page-2019-07-23T16:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=95" title="Edit section: Need Help of Chandrayaan-2 Page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ChadHollingsworth-2019-07-23T16:40:00.000Z-Need_Help_of_Chandrayaan-2_Page"></span>Hello , </p><p>I badly need your help on Chandrayaan-2 page . A user Rowan Forest is vandalising the information to remove the fact from Page introduction that "Chandrayaan-2 mission is First mission aiming to land near Lunar South Pole." </p><p>He claims Chinese landed on Lunar South Pole first with Chang'e 4 mission but the fact is Chinese landed at 45.5 degree latitude which is far from Lunar South pole while India is landing at 70 degree latitude which is much closer to Lunar South Pole region . </p><p>Please help against that user Rowan Forest sir . <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:ChadHollingsworth" title="User:ChadHollingsworth">ChadHollingsworth</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ChadHollingsworth&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:ChadHollingsworth (page does not exist)">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/ChadHollingsworth" title="Special:Contributions/ChadHollingsworth">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-ChadHollingsworth-2019-07-23T16:40:00.000Z-Need_Help_of_Chandrayaan-2_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 23 July 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ChadHollingsworth-2019-07-23T16:40:00.000Z-Need_Help_of_Chandrayaan-2_Page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ChadHollingsworth-2019-07-23T16:40:00.000Z-Need_Help_of_Chandrayaan-2_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rowan_Forest-2019-07-23T19:29:00.000Z-ChadHollingsworth-2019-07-23T16:40:00.000Z"></span>That is one more sockpuppet avoiding their indefinite block. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Rowan_Forest" title="User:Rowan Forest">Rowan Forest</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rowan_Forest" title="User talk:Rowan Forest">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Rowan_Forest-2019-07-23T19:29:00.000Z-ChadHollingsworth-2019-07-23T16:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:29, 23 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rowan_Forest-2019-07-23T19:29:00.000Z-ChadHollingsworth-2019-07-23T16:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rowan_Forest-2019-07-23T19:29:00.000Z-ChadHollingsworth-2019-07-23T16:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Jivaroan_languages" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Jivaroan_languages-2019-07-24T02:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Jivaroan_languages-2019-07-24T02:23:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">Speedy deletion</a> nomination of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Jivaroan_languages&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Jivaroan languages (page does not exist)">Category:Jivaroan languages</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Jivaroan_languages-2019-07-24T02:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=96" title="Edit section: Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Jivaroan languages"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-2019-07-24T02:23:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Jivaroan_languages"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>A tag has been placed on <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Jivaroan_languages&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Jivaroan languages (page does not exist)">Category:Jivaroan languages</a> requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. 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I was thinking about making <a href="/wiki/Momoko_Kato" class="mw-redirect" title="Momoko Kato">Momoko Kato</a> <a href="/wiki/Kat%C5%8D_Momoko" class="mw-redirect" title="Katō Momoko">Katō Momoko</a> and <a href="/wiki/Kato_Momoko" class="mw-redirect" title="Kato Momoko">Kato Momoko</a> into a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REDIRECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REDIRECT">WP:REDIRECTs</a> to <a href="/wiki/Momoko_Kat%C5%8D" title="Momoko Katō">Momoko Katō</a>, but I'm a bit concerned about <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8A%A0%E8%97%A4%E6%A1%83%E5%AD%90_(%E5%A5%B3%E5%84%AA)" class="extiw" title="ja:加藤桃子 (女優)">ja:加藤桃子 (女優)</a> and <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8A%A0%E8%97%A4%E6%A1%83%E5%AD%90_(%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88)" class="extiw" title="ja:加藤桃子 (タレント)">ja:加藤桃子 (タレント)</a> since it's not clear who of the three would be the primary "Momoko Katō/Kato" for English Wikipedia and who would need to be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DAB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DAB">WP:DAB</a>BED. Right now, only the shogi pro has an English article, but someday perhaps the others will or someone else new might. Any suggestions on what to do here? Just follow what's done on Japanese Wikipedia? If all three had English articles, a DAB page could be be created. however, not sure if it make sense to do that right now for just one English article and then links to Japanese Wikipedia for the other two. Also, not sure if a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:HAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HAT">hatnote</a> should be added to the top of the shogi player's article to distinguish between the three. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-08-14T05:44:00.000Z-Momoko_Katō_redirects" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:44, 14 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-14T05:44:00.000Z-Momoko_Katō_redirects"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-14T05:44:00.000Z-Momoko_Katō_redirects"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-14T14:04:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-08-14T05:44:00.000Z"></span>hi.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>well, i wouldnt worry about it since there's no pages for them. I guess one can address the issue now by creating pages for the other folks to make the disambiguations and force english wiki folks to evaluate whether to speedily delete them (or slowly delete them) or keep the pages. And, if kept, maybe other folks will fill out the pages if interested. Just depends on if that editing + interaction is fun for you do.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>i dont think there should ever be a primary topic. It's not usual for encyclopedias to do such a thing. Wikipedia, of course, does its own byzantine things for some reason, but you don't have to play along with it. I'd just do <i>name (disambig topic)</i> for all and be done with it. [for the one, i'd say タレント = <i>celebrity</i> is vague, maybe <i>model</i> is better? Ah, you're making me read about uninteresting people, haha. I can't believe the jp wiki is putting their bust measurements on pages.] That's if there are 3 pages. If only one, there's nothing to disambiguate yet. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-14T14:04:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-08-14T05:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 14 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-14T14:04:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-08-14T05:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-14T14:04:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-08-14T05:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-16T00:17:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-14T14:04:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for taking a look. You're right in there's probably no point in worrying about this now and that disamguation can be added later on if needed. I just created simple redirects to the article for the three pages mentioned above.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>And now for something completely different. In <a href="/wiki/Professional_shogi_player#JSA" title="Professional shogi player">Professional shogi player#JSA</a>, it mentions that Akiko Takojima was the first female to reach AP 1-dan. This is correct (you can see that in table shown <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://hochi.news/articles/20180603-OHT1T50193.html">here</a>), but for some reason she's not being counted as being the first in recent articles when it comes to Satomi, Nishiyama, and Katō. Do you think this might be because Takojima's promotion came under the old system, whereas the others were promoted under the current system? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-08-16T00:17:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-14T14:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 16 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-16T00:17:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-14T14:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-16T00:17:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-14T14:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-17T03:58:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-08-16T00:17:00.000Z"></span>Oh, i didnt know. And, i also dont know why they wouldnt report it. Well, what you suggest sounds plausible. I dont know much about the older system (or systems), but that was when the restriction on only 4 players per year could be professionals had not been put forth, which is about all i know. Also, could be reporters messing the facts up (they often misreport/misunderstand scientific or statistical stuff) although if it's the JSA that is making the omission you would presume that they know better. If you are cynical, maybe you could think of something more nefarious like the omission is due to Takojima leaving the JSA. Well, i have no idea. Your guess is as good as mine. You can always leave a footnote noting the discrepancy between sources and you neednt make any speculation on the reason for the discrepancy (to avoid your own bias) and just leave it to the reader to ponder over. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-17T03:58:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-08-16T00:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:58, 17 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-17T03:58:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-08-16T00:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-17T03:58:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-08-16T00:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-17T06:09:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-17T03:58:00.000Z"></span>You never know when it comes to the JSA I guess. When the LSPA was formed, the JSA took away the status of those who left. I can understand that, but the way they did was strange in that it was as if the JSA was trying to erase them from its history. The badge numbers were re-assigned and everyone was moved up, etc. Takojima was badge #1, but when she left Sekine was moved up to #1 (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071104024120/http://www.shogi.or.jp/syoukai/zyoryuu/sekine-k.html">before</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.shogi.or.jp/player/lady/1.html">after</a>). Shimizu went from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071104015540/http://www.shogi.or.jp/syoukai/zyoryuu/simizu.html">19</a> to 7. Kitao actually did leave as <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20050208083537/http://www.shogi.or.jp/syoukai/zyoryuu/kitao.html">49</a>, but came back as 43. Maybe the JSA thought gaps in the badge numbers was undesirable, but it kinda seems (at least in my opinion) like it was also partly done out of spite. As a counter example, Beni Takemata not only retired, but also left the JSA altogether in March 2019 to pursue other things, yet the JSA still has a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.shogi.or.jp/player/lady/45.html">profile page</a> for her. Anyway, one thing about Takojima and 1-dan though was that it appears that the criteria were tweaked to make promotion a bit easier for her to achieve since she was the first female apprentice; so, maybe that's why she's not considered by some (at least some younger journalists) to be the first. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-08-17T06:09:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-17T03:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:09, 17 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-17T06:09:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-17T03:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-17T06:09:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-17T03:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Most_moves" data-mw-thread-id="h-Most_moves-2019-08-22T04:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Most_moves-2019-08-22T04:40:00.000Z"></span>Most moves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Most_moves-2019-08-22T04:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=99" title="Edit section: Most moves"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-22T04:40:00.000Z-Most_moves"></span>Hi Ish ishwar. Can you think of a good article for incorporating something like <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASL2X2PQFL2XUCLV002.html">this</a> and the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://news.yahoo.co.jp/byline/matsumotohirofumi/20190821-00139300/">just played Toyoshima-Kimura game</a>. Both are records so to speak and it might be interesting to figure out a way to incorporate mentions of the them being so into articles other than ones about the players themselves. Maybe the first paragraph of <a href="/wiki/Shogi#Strategy_and_tactics" title="Shogi">Shogi#Strategy and tactics</a> as examples of actual games? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-08-22T04:40:00.000Z-Most_moves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:40, 22 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-22T04:40:00.000Z-Most_moves"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-22T04:40:00.000Z-Most_moves"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-22T21:01:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-08-22T04:40:00.000Z"></span>hi.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>it's kind of like trivia. So, chess has an article of this sort: <a href="/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_chess" title="List of world records in chess">List of world records in chess</a>. Perhaps there's a jawiki corresponding article for shogi too?</dd></dl> <dl><dd>in my grand vision of shogi wikipedia coverage, every concept (rules, theory [castles/tactics/openings/etc.]) should have a real game example showing the concept. And, one can pick out interesting games for these examples. However, just being the longest game doesnt seem to be an example of anything like tactics. So, i dont see a justification there. (but maybe i'm lacking in imagination?) I do see how it could be relevant for discussion of the endgame especially if there is a generalization that 相入玉 leads to longer games on average. And, even if there's no such generalization (or no source backing up the generalization), it could be used to demonstrate the difference in strategy required for such games. (writing such material is a bit more complicated than just covering openings/josekis. Not sure that i'd be up the task yet myself. And, pro games can be pretty sophisticated...)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>but, if it's just trivia at <a href="/w/index.php?title=List_of_world_records_in_shogi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="List of world records in shogi (page does not exist)">List of world records in shogi</a>, then you dont have to do anything except mention it. No thinking required at all. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-22T21:01:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-08-22T04:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 22 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-22T21:01:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-08-22T04:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-22T21:01:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-08-22T04:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-22T23:59:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-22T21:01:00.000Z"></span>It does have a kind of trivia feel to it and maybe would be best suited as a single entry in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SAL">WP:SAL</a> article about "shogi records", or just a mention in each player's article. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-08-22T23:59:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-22T21:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:59, 22 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-22T23:59:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-22T21:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-08-22T23:59:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-22T21:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Contentless_sections" data-mw-thread-id="h-Contentless_sections-2019-08-28T12:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Contentless_sections-2019-08-28T12:05:00.000Z"></span>Contentless sections<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Contentless_sections-2019-08-28T12:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=100" title="Edit section: Contentless sections"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IamNotU-2019-08-28T12:05:00.000Z-Contentless_sections"></span>Hi Ish ishwar, I have been working on cleaning up after a disruptive user who has added empty "History" sections with only "expand section" templates, to hundreds of articles, as described at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1010#Countless_empty_"History"_sections,_plus_copyright_violations,_etc." title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1010">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1010#Countless empty "History" sections, plus copyright violations, etc.</a>. In searching for edits by this user, I have noticed that you have added similar contentless sections to quite a number of articles, mainly "Promotion history" sections with only "expand section" templates in articles about shogi players, for example in <a href="/wiki/Io_Murota" title="Io Murota">Io Murota</a>. In accordance with <a href="/wiki/MOS:BODY" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:BODY">MOS:BODY</a>, and common practice, I would ask you to consider not doing that. Sections can be created when content is available for them; creating empty sections, especially large numbers of them, is generally considered not helpful. Thanks for your understanding. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:IamNotU&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:IamNotU (page does not exist)">IamNotU</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IamNotU" title="User talk:IamNotU">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-IamNotU-2019-08-28T12:05:00.000Z-Contentless_sections" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:05, 28 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IamNotU-2019-08-28T12:05:00.000Z-Contentless_sections"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IamNotU-2019-08-28T12:05:00.000Z-Contentless_sections"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-28T12:53:00.000Z-IamNotU-2019-08-28T12:05:00.000Z"></span>why is it not helpful? It seems helpful to me. It shows me and any other future editor that happens upon the page that there is content missing from the article and what that missing content should be. In other words, it is a guided invitation to add content.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>what is the reason for not adding expand-section sections?</dd></dl> <dl><dd>(as a side note, i didnt find a discussion of empty sections in that manual of style link after a quick glance at it. And, common practice ≠ good practice.) – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-28T12:53:00.000Z-IamNotU-2019-08-28T12:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 28 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-28T12:53:00.000Z-IamNotU-2019-08-28T12:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-28T12:53:00.000Z-IamNotU-2019-08-28T12:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IamNotU-2019-08-29T13:13:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-28T12:53:00.000Z"></span>The relevant part of <a href="/wiki/MOS:BODY" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:BODY">MOS:BODY</a> is:</dd> <dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>Headings introduce sections and subsections, clarify articles by breaking up text, organize content, and populate the table of contents. Very short or very long sections and subsections in an article look cluttered and inhibit the flow of the prose. Short paragraphs and single sentences generally do not warrant their own subheading.</p></blockquote></dd> <dd></dd> <dd>You are correct that common practice is not always best practice, but the Manual of Style is a "generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow". The purpose of sections is to clarify and break up text, and organize content and the table of contents for the benefit of readers. If a single sentence does not warrant a subheading, then it seems clear that adding a subheading with no content at all is not warranted, and clutters the article.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>Personally, I would not object to such sections if you or others intend to add content yourself within a short period of time. However, some of them have been around for half a year now.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>For reference, here are some comments and warnings by senior editors about the subject: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JohnLickor372&diff=894369276&oldid=891631622">[7]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=897008558&oldid=897001409">[8]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:2001:8003:E40E:4000:38E7:539A:A1E3:8923">[9]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:121.222.65.53">[10]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nut_(fruit)&diff=891781241&oldid=891780765">[11]</a>. Many similar comments can be found in the edit history of articles where <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JohnLickor372">JohnLickor372</a></span> and their IP sockpuppets have added the same type of contentless sections with "expand section" to many articles, which are in the process of being removed following the ANI discussion. I do understand your reasoning above, and I don't think that your edits are disruptive in the same way, but I think it would be inconsistent for us to remove those empty sections without at least commenting on yours.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>Here is a discussion with related reasoning about the use of "expand section" templates in general, where it was found that the consensus is that empty sections should be removed: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2017_February_11#Time_limit_for_Template:Empty_section_and_Template:Expand_section" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 February 11">Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 February 11 § Time limit for Template:Empty section and Template:Expand section</a>.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>One more thing, the documentation of <a href="/wiki/Template:Expand_section" title="Template:Expand section">Template:Expand section</a> states that it is not to be used for empty sections:</dd> <dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237805129"><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>If the section is completely empty, the {{Empty section}} template should be used instead of this template.</p></blockquote></dd> <dd></dd> <dd>I hope this makes sense. If you'd like, I could ping some of the above editors, who could maybe give a better explanation than I have, or give further references to relevant RFCs etc. Thanks... --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:IamNotU&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:IamNotU (page does not exist)">IamNotU</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IamNotU" title="User talk:IamNotU">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-IamNotU-2019-08-29T13:13:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-28T12:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 29 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IamNotU-2019-08-29T13:13:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-28T12:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IamNotU-2019-08-29T13:13:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-08-28T12:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kifu" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kifu-2019-09-14T10:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kifu-2019-09-14T10:52:00.000Z"></span>Kifu<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kifu-2019-09-14T10:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=101" title="Edit section: Kifu"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2019-09-14T10:52:00.000Z-Kifu"></span>Hi Ish ishwar. Have you seen <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.shogi.or.jp/news/2019/09/post_1824.html">this</a> post about re-using kifu on the JSA's website. I'm wondering how this affects Wikipedia since technically the JSA is implying that permission of some kind is needed for commercial re-use and Wikipedia's licensing doesn't allow any such restrictions. I took a peek at <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A3%8B%E8%AD%9C" class="extiw" title="ja:棋譜">ja:棋譜</a> on Japanese Wikipedia to see if anything was added about this, but there's nothing so far. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-09-14T10:52:00.000Z-Kifu" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:52, 14 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-09-14T10:52:00.000Z-Kifu"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-09-14T10:52:00.000Z-Kifu"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-14T21:01:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-09-14T10:52:00.000Z"></span>Wikipedia is domiciled in the US. In the US, there is at least one court ruling (but maybe more one?) that establishes that chess game records are uncopyrightable. And, as I understand it, this is also the case in Europe. And, this ruling should pretty much apply to all games (chess-like or otherwise).</dd></dl> <dl><dd>My understanding of Japan is that somebody needs to sue somebody to decide the issue definitely. But, it hasnt been done yet.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>So, it doesnt really matter if the JSA or the media conglomerates assert copyright or that the records are their 'property' even if it turns out that game records are copyrightable works in Japan.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>The above applies to citation and publishing of whole works (or maybe large sections of works). What Wikipedia should be doing is only referring to specific parts of game records for some pertinent topic. All that is covered by fair use even if the game records are copyrighted in the US. Trying to prevent showing even a single game diagram would seem to be the equivalent of preventing quoting a passage from a news article or short story.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Now, you see that the notice didnt mention the term 著作権. I dont know if that is significant or not. But, there may be another way for the media conglomerates to keep their monopolies on record publishing. I think i read some news articles saying that 3rd parties publishing records will damage the JSA and the conglomerates financially and so may violate whatever the equivalent of tort law is in Japan. However, again, as I understand it, there has been no court case deciding the matter.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Tortious interference (or whatever the relevant law is) in Japan may have no standing in the US. I dont know. The laws in general are too complex for a Wikipedia editor to deal with. Since there is no copyright issue here, I think we can just leave this to the lawyers. Let the JSA or the conglomerates sue Wikipedia so that the courts can figure it out definitely. It has nothing to do with us. (We know Wikipedia can throw money at the courts since they already figured out a legal way to publish that famous monkey photo without paying royalties to the photographer – <a href="/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_dispute" title="Monkey selfie copyright dispute">Monkey selfie copyright dispute</a>.)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>These companies' threat tactics have clearly worked. They have successfully pressured normal Japanese folks to not publish game records without spending any money in court. And, most shogi books are still published by professionals (perhaps only professionals if using professional records). And, there is no complete shogi game record database available to the public making professionals and the media folks the sole gatekeepers to historical research and in-depth analysis.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>(Broadcast, especially live ones, of games as events is probably different. Sports organization typically own exclusive rights to the events and often the players have often rights of publicity regulating commercial use of their images [although it's not a national law in the US, it varies state by state in details]. But, i think that Wikipedia has no interest in the game event. There's no reason to report what food the players eat, their facial expressions, what famous hotel they are staying at, etc. My interest in using professional games is solely in the shogi theory as a mathematical system, fairly far removed from the human components.) – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-14T21:01:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-09-14T10:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 14 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-14T21:01:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-09-14T10:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-14T21:01:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-09-14T10:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-15T20:44:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-14T21:01:00.000Z"></span>relevant articles on the 2016 court cases:</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://chess24.com/en/read/news/chess24-win-moscow-case-announce-new-york-line-up">https://chess24.com/en/read/news/chess24-win-moscow-case-announce-new-york-line-up</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://chess24.com/en/read/news/us-judge-agrees-with-chess24-on-chess-moves">https://chess24.com/en/read/news/us-judge-agrees-with-chess24-on-chess-moves</a></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>includes the court ruling documents</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>The issue also involved broadcasting of the 'facts' of the events. So, over and above the issue of merely publishing only the game record. So, maybe Wikipedia is protected even here to some extent. Nonetheless, i dont see any reason that Wikipedia would ever need to broadcast an entire shogi game event. So, it's a non-issue if Wikipedia never does so. Don't know about ja.wiki though – maybe it would be a legal problem there if they use servers in Japan. Still, the media conglomerates have, for instance, successfully pressured the popular YouTuber, Chrono, to not broadcast shogi games on his channel. Putting aside whether he was actually legally ok to do so, he likely didn't want to pay the legal fees in order to find out. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-15T20:44:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-14T21:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 15 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-15T20:44:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-14T21:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-15T20:44:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-14T21:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2019-09-15T22:48:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-15T20:44:00.000Z"></span>I appreciate you taking the time to look into this. I've only added a few complete game scores to articles, but these could actually be easily removed without any real loss of understanding if it does turn out to be a problem. The JSA is asking those who want to use game score to request permission using <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.shogi.or.jp/form/inquiry/post_9.html">this form</a>, which means they feel than have the right to deny such a request. Whether they legally can claim such a right is, as you note, probably needs to be clarified the Japanese courts, and if that happens then maybe Wikipedia will be forced to respond. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-09-15T22:48:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-15T20:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 15 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-09-15T22:48:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-15T20:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-09-15T22:48:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-15T20:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-16T01:02:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-09-15T22:48:00.000Z"></span>I doubt anything would ever happen. In the chess examples, the US judge threw out the case before it even went to a trial. In this case, it's even simpler since it's only the game records and nothing else of the game event. I mean i'm not a lawyer or anything, but i would have no worries.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Being a good person, one might ask whether we have a moral imperative to follow the JSA's wishes. But, since the JSA actually does very little to create non-Japanese language shogi resources (one of the main complaints within the nonJapanese shogi community), i feel that Wikipedia would be taking almost nothing out of the professionals pockets. So, it feels fine. Now, if there were an abundance of English language materials, then i might feel otherwise. (And, i personally, have bought many shogi books on theory, so i'm helping them that way too – although i would prefer to pay the professionals directly instead paying the publishing companies...) – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-16T01:02:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-09-15T22:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:02, 16 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-16T01:02:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-09-15T22:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-09-16T01:02:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-09-15T22:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template:Professional_Shogi_Players" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Professional_Shogi_Players-2019-10-14T12:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Professional_Shogi_Players-2019-10-14T12:57:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Template:Professional_Shogi_Players" title="Template:Professional Shogi Players">Template:Professional Shogi Players</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Professional_Shogi_Players-2019-10-14T12:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=102" title="Edit section: Template:Professional Shogi Players"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2019-10-14T12:57:00.000Z-Template:Professional_Shogi_Players"></span>Hi Ish ishwar. Would you mind taking a look at this? I basically just used the <a href="/wiki/Template:Women%27s_Professional_Shogi_Players" title="Template:Women's Professional Shogi Players">Template:Women's Professional Shogi Players</a> that you created and just changed the names. If you find that I left someone out, please add them. — <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-10-14T12:57:00.000Z-Template:Professional_Shogi_Players" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:57, 14 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-10-14T12:57:00.000Z-Template:Professional_Shogi_Players"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-10-14T12:57:00.000Z-Template:Professional_Shogi_Players"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-10-15T03:52:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-10-14T12:57:00.000Z"></span>Hi. Nice. I'll take a look in the next few days. Cheers. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-10-15T03:52:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-10-14T12:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:52, 15 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-10-15T03:52:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-10-14T12:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-10-15T03:52:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-10-14T12:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-10-21T23:00:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-10-15T03:52:00.000Z"></span>there was one player missing, which i added. I also added the title holders to match the jawiki template (and the JSA main player page). Not sure if that's the best way to display it, but i dont like the way Japanese folks do it by showing only the title and omitting their dan rank (seems to obscure information). Guess the women's players should have something similar although perhaps it's a bigger priority to just get them all pages as well as their tournaments. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-10-21T23:00:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-10-15T03:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:00, 21 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-10-21T23:00:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-10-15T03:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-10-21T23:00:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-10-15T03:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message-2019-11-19T00:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message-2019-11-19T00:04:00.000Z"></span>ArbCom 2019 election voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message-2019-11-19T00:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=103" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2019 election voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table class="messagebox" style="border: 1px solid #AAA; background: ivory; padding: 0.5em; width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align:middle; padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2019-11-19T00:04:00.000Z-ArbCom_2019_election_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></td><td>Hello! 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data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society-2019-11-20T11:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society-2019-11-20T11:29:00.000Z"></span>Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society-2019-11-20T11:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=105" title="Edit section: Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris_troutman-2019-11-20T11:29:00.000Z-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fifteen_Year_Society" title="Wikipedia:Fifteen Year Society"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Fifteen_Year_Society_userbox.svg/125px-Fifteen_Year_Society_userbox.svg.png" decoding="async" width="125" height="102" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Fifteen_Year_Society_userbox.svg/188px-Fifteen_Year_Society_userbox.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Fifteen_Year_Society_userbox.svg/250px-Fifteen_Year_Society_userbox.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="375" data-file-height="305"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> Dear Ish ishwar, </p><p>I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Fifteen_Year_Society" title="Wikipedia:Fifteen Year Society">Fifteen Year Society</a></b>, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for fifteen years or more. </p><p>Best regards, <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;"><a href="/wiki/User:Chris_troutman" title="User:Chris troutman"><span style="color:#345">Chris Troutman</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris_troutman" title="User talk:Chris troutman"><span style="color:#345">talk</span></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Chris_troutman-2019-11-20T11:29:00.000Z-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 20 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris_troutman-2019-11-20T11:29:00.000Z-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris_troutman-2019-11-20T11:29:00.000Z-Invitation_to_join_the_Fifteen_Year_Society"></span> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft_about_Eiō_tournament" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft_about_Eiō_tournament-2019-11-22T23:00:00.000Z"><span id="Draft_about_Ei.C5.8D_tournament"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft_about_Eiō_tournament-2019-11-22T23:00:00.000Z"></span>Draft about Eiō tournament<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft_about_Eiō_tournament-2019-11-22T23:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=106" title="Edit section: Draft about Eiō tournament"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:00:00.000Z-Draft_about_Eiō_tournament"></span>Hi Ish ishwar. I just started working on <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Marchjuly/sandbox/Ei%C5%8D&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Marchjuly/sandbox/Eiō (page does not exist)">User:Marchjuly/sandbox/Eiō</a> and am wondering if you might take a look at it. I haven't really been working on a straight translation of the Japanese Wikipedia article this time around, but instead have been using the sources I can find to come up a new version. The Japanese article isn't too difficult to read, but it includes lots of extraneous details (lots which is not really sourced very well) and has lots of sub-sections which might not work as well on English Wikipedia. </p><p>Anyway, the draft seems a little out of balance now (maybe too much detail), but perhaps once the "Background" (maybe change the name to "History") section has been added it will flow better. For the "Background" section, I was thinking of using a bit of the Denōsen stuff found in <a href="/wiki/Computer_shogi" title="Computer shogi">Computer shogi</a> since that's primary the origin of the Eiō, and that add content about the first and second non-title tournaments, and the third tournament won by Takami. The reason I thought it might be good to add these as part of the "Background" section is that the format was slightly different for the first three tournaments than it was for the fourth one. I thought about adding that to the format section, but felt it would be a bit confusing to have "Current format" and "Old format" subsections; so, I thought a sentence or two on how the format changed in the background section might be better. I've been looking at some of the other articles about major titles, but the Eiō is so new that there's not really any need a "Records" section, etc. I also kinda don't think that we need separate sections for the mini tournaments to determine who the women's professional and amateur players are since there doesn't really seem to be much coverage of them anyway and the seem to just be mentioned after the fact. </p><p>Any suggestions you have would be appreciated. Feel free to make any improvements you think are needed as well. If you are sources about the background/history and the format that would work, feel free to add them as well. I've been searching the Japanese newspaper websites and find some which I've already added, and others which I've yet to add (they require a subscription to be viewed in their entirety so I can't see the content I'm looking for). Thanks in advance -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:00:00.000Z-Draft_about_Eiō_tournament" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:00, 22 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:00:00.000Z-Draft_about_Eiō_tournament"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:00:00.000Z-Draft_about_Eiō_tournament"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:34:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:00:00.000Z"></span>looks good to me. And, it has been a very needed article. I dont know much about it. So, i'll have to read some stuff.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>i think <i>History</i> is better than <i>Background.</i> I'd also put the history after the <i>Format</i> section – a description of the article's subject first and then detailing of how it came to be.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Seems to me that describing the women pro and amateur tournaments is part of the description of the entire tournament. Although maybe most dont care much about it, omitting this leaves an incomplete picture of the tournament. I mean you can imagine there are some readers from, say, France that wonder how they could ever play an official game against a professional player. Finding out how they could do that via this tournament is going to be a hard thing to learn about if they don't read Japanese. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:34:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 3 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:34:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:34:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2019-12-04T00:27:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:34:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for taking a look at this. I think you're right about changing the name to "History" and also about the location of the section; both suggestions do seem to be improvements. I've been trying to find more sources about the women's pro and amateur player slots, but there is really hardly anything on them, except maybe in stuff which would not really be a reliable source for English Wikipedia. There are separate play-in type tournaments held for each in March (I think) to determine which player gets to participate, but there's not lots of coverage of them. I'm sure separate subsections are needed for each listing specific players, etc., but probably a separate paragraph in the "Format" section going into a little more detail would be be OK. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-12-04T00:27:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:27, 4 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-12-04T00:27:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-12-04T00:27:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Infobox_image_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Infobox_image_question-2019-11-22T23:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Infobox_image_question-2019-11-22T23:44:00.000Z"></span>Infobox image question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Infobox_image_question-2019-11-22T23:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=107" title="Edit section: Infobox image question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:44:00.000Z-Infobox_image_question"></span>I making this into a separate post since I didn't want it to get mixed up with the stuff about the Eiō. Since you seem to do a fair amount of editing over at Japanese Wikipedia (JW) and also seem to have a good grasp of how templates work, I thought that maybe you could help me sort something out. </p><p>On English Wikipedia (EW), it seems to be common practice to avoid using the thumbnail syntax for images in the infobox. The infobox templates used on EW seem to automatically format the image's size, etc. in accordance with the device being used by readers or according to the preference setting of registered accounts. There's also the mobile version of EW as well which is taken into account. I'm sure there's some default setting that is used, but this seems to be set up with things like <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACCIM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACCIM">WP:ACCIM</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:THUMBSIZE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:THUMBSIZE">WP:THUMBSIZE</a>, etc. Sometimes someone will use a thumbnail/fixed sized format in the bodies of articles which seems OK, but when it's done in the infobox it seems that the main reason is just to add a caption, even though pretty much all infoboxes have a caption parameter. Mostly fixing this kind of thing seems fairly uncontentious here on EW per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IBI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IBI">WP:IBI</a> and I don't think I've ever seen such an edit reverted. </p><p>I'm not quite so sure how things work on JW though. If you look at articles like <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%A6%8F%E5%B4%8E%E6%96%87%E5%90%BE" class="extiw" title="ja:福崎文吾">ja:福崎文吾</a>, <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E6%9D%91%E4%BF%AE_(%E6%A3%8B%E5%A3%AB)" class="extiw" title="ja:中村修 (棋士)">ja:中村修 (棋士)</a> and <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BA%95%E4%B8%8A%E6%85%B6%E5%A4%AA" class="extiw" title="ja:井上慶太">ja:井上慶太</a>, the image formatting seems to be consistent with what's done on EW; other articles like <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A3%AE%E4%B8%8B%E5%8D%93" class="extiw" title="ja:森下卓">ja:森下卓</a>, <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BD%90%E8%97%A4%E5%BA%B7%E5%85%89" class="extiw" title="ja:佐藤康光">ja:佐藤康光</a> and <a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A3%AE%E5%86%85%E4%BF%8A%E4%B9%8B" class="extiw" title="ja:森内俊之">ja:森内俊之</a> use a combination of thumbnail and fixed sized format which seems doubly bad. Anyway, I thought such clean up would be fairly uncontentious on JW as well so I went and did it, but got reverted fairly quickly. The editor who reverted me was cordial (a tad bit condescending perhaps) and tried to explain why on my user talk; I could understand what they were saying, but I wasn't able to explain my position very well. The main reason they seem to have done so was just because they felt it was harder (too hard) to read the captions the other way, which seems to be more of a problem with the caption than anything else. Perhaps the software used by JW does do things differently than the one used by EW, but I can't see why it would since most devices these days regardless of where they're manufactured are pretty standardized. (I remember hearing people say back in the day that foreign-made skis wouldn't work in Japan because Japanese snow is unique, and the reply I received sorta gave me that impression.) I find this to be even more confusing since in the 中村修 article, the same editor formatted the image <a class="external text" href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E4%B8%AD%E6%9D%91%E4%BF%AE_(%E6%A3%8B%E5%A3%AB)&diff=70139530&oldid=70048910">the same way</a> but the formatting was "<a class="external text" href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E4%B8%AD%E6%9D%91%E4%BF%AE_(%E6%A3%8B%E5%A3%AB)&diff=next&oldid=70246766">fixed</a>" later by a bot and wasn't reverted. I basically did the same thing the bot did and while bots can sometimes make mistakes they really only do what they are set up to do; so, if a bot makes such an edit, it's probably done for a reason. </p><p>FWIW, I'm not asking you to run over to JW and change things back, but rather just curious for my own understanding of how templates like infobox templates work and how image formatting works. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:44:00.000Z-Infobox_image_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:44, 22 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:44:00.000Z-Infobox_image_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:44:00.000Z-Infobox_image_question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:14:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:44:00.000Z"></span>well, it doesn't make much sense to me especially given that you were doing the same thing that bots do. Maybe that editor doesn't know what they are talking about? I guess they have an argument that one way creates an easier to read caption, but that just suggests changing the template code adjust the formatting. From a coding perspective, i think the more elegant thing to do would be to give the template the filename argument and have the template do all the formatting behind the scenes instead of putting wikiformatting on top of the argument before giving it to the template. Regardless, the best thing is to be consistent across the whole site so that a future bot can easily be written to make automatic changes.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>i think you know more about images & templates than me. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:14:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 3 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:14:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:14:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-11-22T23:44:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2019-12-04T00:22:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:14:00.000Z"></span>The edits I made were subsequently restored by another editor, who then explained (much better than I was able to) why the images shouldn't be formatted that way; so, things seem to have been resolved (at least for the moment). The editor who reverted me also went back and shortened all of the captions, which means I guess that they are no longer an issue as well. Anyway, I think you're right about the trying to over wikiformat things when it comes to templates; it's better to either let the template wikiformat things or change the template code if there's a problem. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-12-04T00:22:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:22, 4 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-12-04T00:22:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-12-04T00:22:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-03T20:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Google_Code-In_2019_is_coming_-_please_mentor_some_documentation_tasks!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Google_Code-In_2019_is_coming_-_please_mentor_some_documentation_tasks!-2019-11-23T21:59:00.000Z"><span id="Google_Code-In_2019_is_coming_-_please_mentor_some_documentation_tasks.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Google_Code-In_2019_is_coming_-_please_mentor_some_documentation_tasks!-2019-11-23T21:59:00.000Z"></span>Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Google_Code-In_2019_is_coming_-_please_mentor_some_documentation_tasks!-2019-11-23T21:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=108" title="Edit section: Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_Urbanec-2019-11-23T21:59:00.000Z-Google_Code-In_2019_is_coming_-_please_mentor_some_documentation_tasks!"></span>Hello, </p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in/2019" class="extiw" title="mw:Google Code-in/2019">Google Code-In</a>, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia. </p><p>I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in/2019" class="extiw" title="mw:Google Code-in/2019">the contest page</a> and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in! </p><p>From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community. </p><p>If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org. </p><p>Thank you! </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Martin_Urbanec" title="User:Martin Urbanec">User:Martin Urbanec</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_Urbanec" title="User talk:Martin Urbanec">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Martin_Urbanec-2019-11-23T21:59:00.000Z-Google_Code-In_2019_is_coming_-_please_mentor_some_documentation_tasks!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:59, 23 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_Urbanec-2019-11-23T21:59:00.000Z-Google_Code-In_2019_is_coming_-_please_mentor_some_documentation_tasks!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_Urbanec-2019-11-23T21:59:00.000Z-Google_Code-In_2019_is_coming_-_please_mentor_some_documentation_tasks!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tsume_shogi" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tsume_shogi-2019-12-08T09:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tsume_shogi-2019-12-08T09:30:00.000Z"></span>Tsume shogi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tsume_shogi-2019-12-08T09:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=109" title="Edit section: Tsume shogi"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2019-12-08T09:30:00.000Z-Tsume_shogi"></span>Would you mind checking <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/Daigakuimo/929793975" title="Special:Diff/Daigakuimo/929793975">this edit</a>? I don't know the origin of this problem, but if it's someone's creative composition then we might have to be careful using it per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COPY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COPY">WP:COPY</a>. I don't know why an editor who's never edited before would show up out of the blue and add a lance to the problem unless they possibly saw it somewhere in a book or something. I don't think I've ever seen it before, but it looks like a composition. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-12-08T09:30:00.000Z-Tsume_shogi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:30, 8 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-12-08T09:30:00.000Z-Tsume_shogi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-12-08T09:30:00.000Z-Tsume_shogi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-13T19:11:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-12-08T09:30:00.000Z"></span>somebody added that about 2 years ago. I left it alone in case they eventually added more to it. But, as it stands now, it just a diagram without any accompanying explanation. Plus, it's a long mate, which are generally harder for novices – shorter mates for examples seem preferable to use when introducing mate topics. I removed it. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-13T19:11:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-12-08T09:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 13 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-13T19:11:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-12-08T09:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2019-12-13T19:11:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-12-08T09:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Ladies_Professional_Shogi-players'_Association_of_Japan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Ladies_Professional_Shogi-players'_Association_of_Japan-2019-12-11T08:29:00.000Z"><span id="Draft:Ladies_Professional_Shogi-players.27_Association_of_Japan"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Ladies_Professional_Shogi-players'_Association_of_Japan-2019-12-11T08:29:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Draft:Ladies_Professional_Shogi-players%27_Association_of_Japan" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Ladies Professional Shogi-players' Association of Japan">Draft:Ladies Professional Shogi-players' Association of Japan</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Ladies_Professional_Shogi-players'_Association_of_Japan-2019-12-11T08:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=110" title="Edit section: Draft:Ladies Professional Shogi-players' Association of Japan"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2019-12-11T08:29:00.000Z-Draft:Ladies_Professional_Shogi-players'_Association_of_Japan"></span>Hi Ish ishwar. I've started working on a draft for the LPSA. It's kind of hard to find secondary sources for it, so it might not be as detailed as the JSA one. Feel free to improve on what I've started if you think anything is needed. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2019-12-11T08:29:00.000Z-Draft:Ladies_Professional_Shogi-players'_Association_of_Japan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:29, 11 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2019-12-11T08:29:00.000Z-Draft:Ladies_Professional_Shogi-players'_Association_of_Japan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2019-12-11T08:29:00.000Z-Draft:Ladies_Professional_Shogi-players'_Association_of_Japan"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2020-04-05T01:35:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-12-11T08:29:00.000Z"></span>Hi again Ish ishwar. Hope you're doing OK. I'm wondering if you've got any comments on this draft. I've sort of run into a brick wall with respect to sources, and am actually wondering if it might be too detailed as currently written. Perhaps it might be best to trim some of the stuff about the circumstances of the split and just focus on the fact that there was a split. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2020-04-05T01:35:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-12-11T08:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:35, 5 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2020-04-05T01:35:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-12-11T08:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2020-04-05T01:35:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2019-12-11T08:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2020-04-07T10:14:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2020-04-05T01:35:00.000Z"></span>hi. I'll take a look in a few days. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2020-04-07T10:14:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2020-04-05T01:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:14, 7 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2020-04-07T10:14:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2020-04-05T01:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2020-04-07T10:14:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2020-04-05T01:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-2020-02-07T04:57:00.000Z"><span id="Happy_Adminship_Anniversary.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-2020-02-07T04:57:00.000Z"></span>Happy Adminship Anniversary!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-2020-02-07T04:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=111" title="Edit section: Happy Adminship Anniversary!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata" style="background-color:#E6E6FA; border: 1px solid #7D00B3; margin: 0.5em auto; padding: 0.5em; width:90%; text-align: center"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2020-02-07T04:57:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Icon_tools.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/50px-Icon_tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/75px-Icon_tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/100px-Icon_tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="150" data-file-height="150"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:125%; padding-bottom: 1em;">Happy Adminship Anniversary!</span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_date.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/50px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/75px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/100px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Have a very <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights&page=User%3AIsh">ishwar happy adminship anniversary</a> on your special day! </p><p>Best wishes, <a href="/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_RAJU" title="User:CAPTAIN RAJU"><span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;"><b>CAPTAIN RAJU</b></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:CAPTAIN_RAJU" title="User talk:CAPTAIN RAJU">(T)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2020-02-07T04:57:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:57, 7 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2020-02-07T04:57:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2020-02-07T04:57:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Shogi_opening_sequences_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Shogi_opening_sequences_2-2020-02-28T03:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Shogi_opening_sequences_2-2020-02-28T03:07:00.000Z"></span>Shogi opening sequences<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Shogi_opening_sequences_2-2020-02-28T03:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=112" title="Edit section: Shogi opening sequences"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2020-02-28T03:07:00.000Z-Shogi_opening_sequences_2"></span>Hi Ish ishwar. You might want to look at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Shogi_opening_sequences" title="Talk:Shogi opening sequences">Talk:Shogi opening sequences</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:CHESS#Shogi_opening_sequences_is_"too_big"" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:CHESS">WT:CHESS#Shogi opening sequences is "too big"</a> since you're the creator/primary contributor for that article and you might be the best person to try and figure out how to sort things out. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2020-02-28T03:07:00.000Z-Shogi_opening_sequences_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 28 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2020-02-28T03:07:00.000Z-Shogi_opening_sequences_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2020-02-28T03:07:00.000Z-Shogi_opening_sequences_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2020-04-07T10:16:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2020-02-28T03:07:00.000Z"></span>thanks. Yeah, i had seen that. I *fixed* by simply removing diagrams (which aren't strictly necessary – i just like pictures). – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2020-04-07T10:16:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2020-02-28T03:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:16, 7 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2020-04-07T10:16:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2020-02-28T03:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2020-04-07T10:16:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2020-02-28T03:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Women's_3-kyū's" data-mw-thread-id="h-Women's_3-kyū's-2020-04-13T14:14:00.000Z"><span id="Women.27s_3-ky.C5.AB.27s"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Women's_3-kyū's-2020-04-13T14:14:00.000Z"></span>Women's 3-kyū's<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Women's_3-kyū's-2020-04-13T14:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=113" title="Edit section: Women's 3-kyū's"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2020-04-13T14:14:00.000Z-Women's_3-kyū's"></span>Hi Ish ishwar. This is something I've been wondering about for a while now so I figure I'd ask you about it. I've been working on creating stubs for the rest of the Women's professionals who still had red links, and am down to the last one: Saki Tanaka 3-kyū. My thinking is that it might be best to wait until the 3-kyūs like Tanaka are promoted to 2-kyū before creating articles for them. Technically, they are only provisional professions and can drop back down to the Kenshūkai ranks if they don't achieve 2-kyū status within a certain amount of time. I don't think that has happened to anyone yet, though some have come close, as far as I can tell, but even so it might be best to put off an article about these players until they obtain regular women's professional status. At the same time, you could argue <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NTEMP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NTEMP">WP:NTEMP</a> in that once they do become notable they will always be notable even if they do drop back down. In theory that might sound OK, but in actual practice anything about these players on the JSA website, etc. might also disappear if they do drop down and trying to cover such a thing in the articles themselves might be hard to do without any sources to work with. It's not really a problems for kishi because once someone becomes a 4-dan they cannot drop back down to the Shōreikai. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2020-04-13T14:14:00.000Z-Women's_3-kyū's" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 13 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2020-04-13T14:14:00.000Z-Women's_3-kyū's"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2020-04-13T14:14:00.000Z-Women's_3-kyū's"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2020-04-23T23:12:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2020-04-13T14:14:00.000Z"></span>cool. Great job! Sorry, i havent been helping with it.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>i agree with waiting for them to become 2-kyuu. They could also drop out for other personal reasons. And, it does postpone your workload until they do become pro (although that in itself does require continual maintenance – a negative....) – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2020-04-23T23:12:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2020-04-13T14:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:12, 23 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2020-04-23T23:12:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2020-04-13T14:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2020-04-23T23:12:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2020-04-13T14:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2020-04-24T02:01:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2020-04-23T23:12:00.000Z"></span>All the pros now seem to have at least stubs; so, at least there's a start made and more content can be added to them whenever. 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It was moved out of process and the content changed on this while the original title was then repurposed to duplicate an existing article. Based on a post on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:INB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:INB">WT:INB</a>, I deleted the duplicate article, reverted the move and restored content to your version (which appeared to be an extension of the longstanding content), now the content has again been changed. I'm not sure what the right thing is, but you seem to have an idea, so perhaps you can look into it? cheers. —<a href="/wiki/User:SpacemanSpiff" title="User:SpacemanSpiff"><span style="color: #BA181F;">Spaceman</span></a><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpacemanSpiff" title="User talk:SpacemanSpiff"><span style="color: #2B18BA;">Spiff</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-SpacemanSpiff-2020-12-23T06:01:00.000Z-Kuru_(mythology)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:01, 23 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpacemanSpiff-2020-12-23T06:01:00.000Z-Kuru_(mythology)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpacemanSpiff-2020-12-23T06:01:00.000Z-Kuru_(mythology)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_"German_deck"_categories" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_"German_deck"_categories-2020-12-28T10:05:00.000Z"><span id="New_.22German_deck.22_categories"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_"German_deck"_categories-2020-12-28T10:05:00.000Z"></span>New "German deck" categories<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_"German_deck"_categories-2020-12-28T10:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=119" title="Edit section: New "German deck" categories"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2020-12-28T10:05:00.000Z-New_"German_deck"_categories"></span>Hi Ish ishwar, thank you for your edits on Wikipedia and for tidying up the infoboxes of trick-taking games. I see you've created new categories for <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:German_deck_trick-avoidance_games&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:German deck trick-avoidance games (page does not exist)">Category:German deck trick-avoidance games</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:German_deck_plain-trick_games&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:German deck plain-trick games (page does not exist)">Category:German deck plain-trick games</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:German_deck_point-trick_games&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:German deck point-trick games (page does not exist)">Category:German deck point-trick games</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:German_deck_banking_games&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:German deck banking games (page does not exist)">Category:German deck banking games</a>. Strictly speaking, of course, they are not "German deck" games, but "Games played with German-suited packs" (or decks). Anyway, my question is: were you planning to do the same for games played with French-suited packs? And Spanish-suited packs? And Italian-suited packs? And Bavarian-pattern packs? And so on. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt" title="User talk:Bermicourt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Bermicourt-2020-12-28T10:05:00.000Z-New_"German_deck"_categories" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:05, 28 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2020-12-28T10:05:00.000Z-New_"German_deck"_categories"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2020-12-28T10:05:00.000Z-New_"German_deck"_categories"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2020-12-31T22:48:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-12-28T10:05:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a>:</span></dd></dl> <dl><dd>Hi.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>No problem.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Not sure about your point on the wording of the category. I guess most NOUN + NOUN compounds have an ambiguous relation between the two nouns. I think you are saying that the games played with German decks are not restricted to be played with only Germans decks (that is, one can always transfer the games to other types of decks with 4 suits), right? That's totally, true of course. Do you want to change the wording of the category to your proposal <i>Games played with X-suited packs/decks?</i> I'm fine with that as well.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Yes, that was my plan. I was aiming for the intersection of the <i>Category:X-country deck card games</i> categories and the subcategories under <i>Category:Card games by objective</i> & <i>Category:Card games by mechanism</i> (or something along those lines). Basically, I'm imagining a reader that has a particular deck type (e.g. Spanish-suited) and wants to know what are the games of type Y (e.g. shedding games) are traditionally played with that deck type. This information is on wikipedia, but it is kind of inconvenient to extract out of it at present since one has to read every article one-by-one to figure it out. I thought categories would be an unintrusive way to group games by this way. (Incidentally, I always was curious about other countries' decks. This pandemic has given my family a good opportunity to play games at home satisfying my curiosity. However, my spouse who has only played shedding & melding games in Asia doesn't care so much for the complexity of point-trick games. Thus, the interest in seeing what types of games are used with what type of cards.)</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Yes, all types of deck would seem to be useful for the categorization. I'd thought that I'd start first with a general 6-way division of German, Swiss, Italian, Spanish, French, & non-suited. Then, proceeding to any other subcategorization as desired. However, please advise me for the most sensible structure (and also whether this is sensible at all) as I'm definitely no expert in card games.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>cheers! – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2020-12-31T22:48:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-12-28T10:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2020-12-31T22:48:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-12-28T10:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2020-12-31T22:48:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2020-12-28T10:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-01-01T14:49:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2020-12-31T22:48:00.000Z"></span>Hi Ish, I understand what you are trying to achieve and think there are easier and better ways of doing it that don't necessarily require you to look at every article or create more categories. Here are some options: <dl><dd><ul><li>Any game played with a German-suited pack can easily be adapted to a French-suited pack by converting 3 of the 4 suits - Acorns to Clubs, Leaves to Spades and Bells to Diamonds (Hearts stay the same) - and converting Obers to Queens and Jacks to Unters. You then remove the cards that aren't used, but that happens anyway in some games.</li> <li>Use Wikipedia's advanced search feature to list the games you want. Click the spyglass in the search box to go to the search page. Click the down arrow of "Advanced search". Under "Pages in these categories" type in the categories you want .e.g. "French deck card games" and "Shedding-type card games"; they'll pop up as you start typing and you can select them. Then click the "Search" button and all the articles you want will be listed.</li> <li>Use the navbox for trick-taking games - they're already divided into games played with 52 or 32 French-suited cards and those played with other regional suits (German, Italian, etc.). I haven't done this in the navbox for non trick-taking games because there aren't many of each type. The biggest group is shedding games and they're all are played with French packs apart from <a href="/wiki/Kille" class="mw-disambig" title="Kille">Kille</a> which is has a bespoke pack that doesn't merit a separate category. However, the navbox could be amended to show the suits used.</li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>The existing category tree has been carefully grouped by objective, mechanism and type of pack, following the system used by <a href="/wiki/John_McLeod_(card_game_researcher)" title="John McLeod (card game researcher)">John McLeod</a> on what is recognised as the world's leading card game site, <a href="/wiki/Pagat.com" title="Pagat.com">pagat.com</a>. This gives it a clear structure based on recognised criteria. The new categories have introduced a number of issues: they have resulted in different types of sub-category within a parent category (such as <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:German_deck_point-trick_games&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:German deck point-trick games (page does not exist)">Category:German deck point-trick games</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Tresette_group" title="Category:Tresette group">Category:Tresette group</a> within <a href="/wiki/Category:Point-trick_games" title="Category:Point-trick games">Category:Point-trick games</a> with individual articles in both. They are also very much <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NARROWCAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NARROWCAT">WP:NARROWCATs</a> whose parent categories aren't large enough to warrant them, This will be especially true if categories are created for other regional games such as those played with Italian-suited, Spanish-suited and Bavarian-pattern. That leaves the problem of single-game packs like Kille and proprietary packs - they could be grouped together, but that would create a category of games with no practical relationship to one another - not ideal. Also I have found the new categories make it more difficult to navigate and understand basic structure that McLeod and others have painstakingly worked out. My recommendation is to use the options above and to remove the new categories so that we can restore it to a recognised and easy-to-follow structure, while using Wikipedia's powerful search facility and navboxes to achieve the finer-grained searches we need. I hope that helps. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt" title="User talk:Bermicourt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Bermicourt-2021-01-01T14:49:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2020-12-31T22:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 1 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-01-01T14:49:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2020-12-31T22:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-01-01T14:49:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2020-12-31T22:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bermicourt-2021-01-09T17:22:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-01-01T14:49:00.000Z"></span>You mentioned that you were always curious about other countries' decks. I never even knew they existed and I'd lived in Germany for years! One day, I stumbled across a Skat pack on Amazon with German-suited cards and was amazed. The great thing is that nowadays we can buy these packs cheaply online and it really enriches the experience of playing card games. It's not just the cards - which are often very beautifully designed - but also that different games have different characters that can reflect the culture of their region of origin. But even within regions, you get games with a very different feel. For example, in Bavaria, <a href="/wiki/Grasobern" title="Grasobern">Grasobern</a> is a nice, relaxing, leisurely game that is easy to learn; <a href="/wiki/Watten_(card_game)" title="Watten (card game)">Watten</a>, with its winking and blinking signals and bluffing is hilarious and fun, while <a href="/wiki/Schafkopf" title="Schafkopf">Schafkopf</a> is varied and challenging; the shorter version is fast and furious. For two players, <a href="/wiki/Sixty-Six_(card_game)" class="mw-redirect" title="Sixty-Six (card game)">Sixty-Six</a> is one of the best, but you have to have your wits about you. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:Bermicourt" title="User:Bermicourt">Bermicourt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bermicourt" title="User talk:Bermicourt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Bermicourt-2021-01-09T17:22:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-01-01T14:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 9 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bermicourt-2021-01-09T17:22:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-01-01T14:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bermicourt-2021-01-09T17:22:00.000Z-Bermicourt-2021-01-01T14:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>. 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</p><p>Best wishes, <a href="/wiki/User:CAPTAIN_RAJU" title="User:CAPTAIN RAJU"><span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;"><b>CAPTAIN RAJU</b></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:CAPTAIN_RAJU" title="User talk:CAPTAIN RAJU">(T)</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-02-07T08:38:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:38, 7 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-02-07T08:38:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CAPTAIN_RAJU-2021-02-07T08:38:00.000Z-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!_2"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="YouTube_and_New_Testament_Canon" data-mw-thread-id="h-YouTube_and_New_Testament_Canon-2021-08-15T18:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-YouTube_and_New_Testament_Canon-2021-08-15T18:28:00.000Z"></span>YouTube and New Testament Canon<span data-mw-comment-end="h-YouTube_and_New_Testament_Canon-2021-08-15T18:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=121" title="Edit section: YouTube and New Testament Canon"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurel_Lodged-2021-08-15T18:28:00.000Z-YouTube_and_New_Testament_Canon"></span>"YouTube and other video-sharing sites are generally not considered reliable sources because anyone can create or manipulate a video clip and upload without editorial oversight, just as with a self-published website." <a href="/wiki/User:Laurel_Lodged" title="User:Laurel Lodged">Laurel Lodged</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laurel_Lodged" title="User talk:Laurel Lodged">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Laurel_Lodged-2021-08-15T18:28:00.000Z-YouTube_and_New_Testament_Canon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 15 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurel_Lodged-2021-08-15T18:28:00.000Z-YouTube_and_New_Testament_Canon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurel_Lodged-2021-08-15T18:28:00.000Z-YouTube_and_New_Testament_Canon"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2021-08-15T18:31:00.000Z-Laurel_Lodged-2021-08-15T18:28:00.000Z"></span>generally, yes. But, in this case, it was created by Yale University. So, it's not clear what your objection is. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2021-08-15T18:31:00.000Z-Laurel_Lodged-2021-08-15T18:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 15 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2021-08-15T18:31:00.000Z-Laurel_Lodged-2021-08-15T18:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2021-08-15T18:31:00.000Z-Laurel_Lodged-2021-08-15T18:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laurel_Lodged-2021-08-16T15:02:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2021-08-15T18:31:00.000Z"></span>OK then. <a href="/wiki/User:Laurel_Lodged" title="User:Laurel Lodged">Laurel Lodged</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laurel_Lodged" title="User talk:Laurel Lodged">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Laurel_Lodged-2021-08-16T15:02:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2021-08-15T18:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 16 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laurel_Lodged-2021-08-16T15:02:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2021-08-15T18:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laurel_Lodged-2021-08-16T15:02:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2021-08-15T18:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Rahsaan_blackmysterypipes.ogg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Rahsaan_blackmysterypipes.ogg-2021-11-05T20:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Rahsaan_blackmysterypipes.ogg-2021-11-05T20:19:00.000Z"></span>Orphaned non-free image File:Rahsaan blackmysterypipes.ogg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Rahsaan_blackmysterypipes.ogg-2021-11-05T20:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=122" title="Edit section: Orphaned non-free image File:Rahsaan blackmysterypipes.ogg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-B-bot-2021-11-05T20:19:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Rahsaan_blackmysterypipes.ogg"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span title="⚠"><img alt="⚠" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/35px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/53px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/70px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span><figcaption>⚠</figcaption></figure><p> Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/wiki/File:Rahsaan_blackmysterypipes.ogg" title="File:Rahsaan blackmysterypipes.ogg">File:Rahsaan blackmysterypipes.ogg</a></b>. 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I've <b><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Merchandise_giveaways/Nominations/English_Wikipedia_active_administrators" class="extiw" title="meta:Merchandise giveaways/Nominations/English Wikipedia active administrators">nominated you</a></b> (along with all other active admins) to receive a solstice season gift from the WMF. Talk page stalkers are invited to comment at the nomination. Enjoy! Cheers, <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088"><a href="/wiki/User:Sdkb" title="User:Sdkb"><span style="color:#FFF"><b>Sdkb</b></span></a></span><small>}}</small></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sdkb" title="User talk:Sdkb"><b>talk</b></a></sup> ~~~~~</div> </td> <td><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:O.snow2.png" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="A snowflake!" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/O.snow2.png/100px-O.snow2.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/O.snow2.png/150px-O.snow2.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/O.snow2.png/200px-O.snow2.png 2x" data-file-width="680" data-file-height="680"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-12-31T23:50:00.000Z-Merchandise_giveaway_nomination" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:50, 31 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-12-31T23:50:00.000Z-Merchandise_giveaway_nomination"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2021-12-31T23:50:00.000Z-Merchandise_giveaway_nomination"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="How_we_will_see_unregistered_users" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_we_will_see_unregistered_users"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_we_will_see_unregistered_users"></span>How we will see unregistered users<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_we_will_see_unregistered_users"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=128" title="Edit section: How we will see unregistered users"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Hi! </p><p>You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki. </p><p>When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. 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Thank you for your continued work. </p> </div> </div> <p>22:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_May_7" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_May_7-2022-05-07T06:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_May_7-2022-05-07T06:04:00.000Z"></span>Disambiguation link notification for May 7<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_May_7-2022-05-07T06:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=138" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for May 7"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-2022-05-07T06:04:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_May_7"></span>An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/wiki/Choy_sum" title="Choy sum">Choy sum</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Mandarin" class="mw-disambig" title="Mandarin">Mandarin</a>. </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-DPL_bot-2022-05-07T06:04:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_May_7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:04, 7 May 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-2022-05-07T06:04:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_May_7"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-2022-05-07T06:04:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_May_7"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category_moves" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category_moves-2022-06-06T04:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category_moves-2022-06-06T04:31:00.000Z"></span>Category moves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category_moves-2022-06-06T04:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=139" title="Edit section: Category moves"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2022-06-06T04:31:00.000Z-Category_moves"></span>Hi Ish ishwar. Hope you're doing well. I'm wondering if you think <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Retired_female_professional_shogi_players&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Retired female professional shogi players (page does not exist)">Category:Retired female professional shogi players</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Female_professional_shogi_players&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Female professional shogi players (page does not exist)">Category:Female professional shogi players</a> should be moved to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Retired_women%27s_professional_shogi_players&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Retired women's professional shogi players (page does not exist)">Category:Retired women's professional shogi players</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Women%27s_professional_shogi_players&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Women's professional shogi players (page does not exist)">Category:Women's professional shogi players</a> respectively. "Women's professional" seems more consistent with the various individual articles which make reference to Joryū Kishi. If you've got no objections, perhaps you can move the pages because I'm unable to do so. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2022-06-06T04:31:00.000Z-Category_moves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:31, 6 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2022-06-06T04:31:00.000Z-Category_moves"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2022-06-06T04:31:00.000Z-Category_moves"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-2022-06-16T16:23:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2022-06-06T04:31:00.000Z"></span>Ok. Done. I think a bot usually automatically fixes the associated articles these day. But, I'm not completely sure. At any rate, I'll wait for a bit to see if that happens before I edit the individual pages. – <a href="/wiki/User:Ish_ishwar" title="User:Ish ishwar">ishwar</a> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><small>(speak)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Ish_ishwar-2022-06-16T16:23:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2022-06-06T04:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ish_ishwar-2022-06-16T16:23:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2022-06-06T04:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ish_ishwar-2022-06-16T16:23:00.000Z-Marchjuly-2022-06-06T04:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-2022-06-16T20:32:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2022-06-16T16:23:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for looking at this. As you posted, a bot has already started the post move cleanup. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-2022-06-16T20:32:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2022-06-16T16:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 16 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-2022-06-16T20:32:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2022-06-16T16:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-2022-06-16T20:32:00.000Z-Ish_ishwar-2022-06-16T16:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Go_category" data-mw-thread-id="h-Go_category-20220713055500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Go_category-20220713055500"></span>Go category<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Go_category-20220713055500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=140" title="Edit section: Go category"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Coastside-20220713055500-Go_category"></span>You mentioned cultural bias being at play. Why do you remove Go from the sport category and not chess? 05:55, 13 July 2022 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Coastside" title="User:Coastside">Coastside</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Coastside" title="User talk:Coastside">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Coastside-20220713055500-Go_category" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:55, 13 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Coastside-20220713055500-Go_category"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Coastside-20220713055500-Go_category"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ish_ishwar-20220713143600-Coastside-20220713055500"></span>Hi. If you are implying that I have a cultural bias in considering chess to be a sport and go to not be a sport, then that is false. I think that all non-sport games should <b>not</b> be labelled <i>sports</i> regardless of the reasons behind such redefinitions (which, as I understand them, are motivated by economics – that is, sports are big money and chess & go want some of that money too).</dd></dl> <dl><dd><i>Why did I not remove it chess?</i> I just hadn't come across that page this year. If you are subtly requesting me to do, then I accept your request. 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id="h-Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_14_§_Templat-20231115023400"></span>Discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_14#Template:Shogi_diagram_img" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 November 14">Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 November 14 § Template:Shogi diagram img</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_14_§_Templat-20231115023400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=146" title="Edit section: Discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 November 14 § Template:Shogi diagram img"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-20231115023400-Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_14_§_Templat"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/25px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/38px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/50px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> You are invited to join the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_14#Template:Shogi_diagram_img" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 November 14">Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 November 14 § Template:Shogi diagram img</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-20231115023400-Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_14_§_Templat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:34, 15 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-20231115023400-Discussion_at_Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_14_§_Templat"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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If there's a reason it should be kept, feel free to join the above-mentioned discussion. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ish_ishwar#c-Marchjuly-20231115023600-Marchjuly-20231115023400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:36, 15 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-20231115023600-Marchjuly-20231115023400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-20231115023600-Marchjuly-20231115023400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discussion_at_Talk:Shogi_§_Tsume" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_at_Talk:Shogi_§_Tsume-20231115023700"><span id="Discussion_at_Talk:Shogi_.C2.A7_Tsume"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_at_Talk:Shogi_§_Tsume-20231115023700"></span>Discussion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Shogi#Tsume" title="Talk:Shogi">Talk:Shogi § Tsume</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_at_Talk:Shogi_§_Tsume-20231115023700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ish_ishwar&action=edit&section=147" title="Edit section: Discussion at Talk:Shogi § Tsume"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-20231115023700-Discussion_at_Talk:Shogi_§_Tsume"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:37, 15 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-20231115023700-Discussion_at_Talk:Shogi_§_Tsume"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-20231115023700-Discussion_at_Talk:Shogi_§_Tsume"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-20231115023800-Marchjuly-20231115023700"></span>Just letting you know about this as a courtesy since it involves an edit you made to <a href="/wiki/Shogi" title="Shogi">Shogi</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a 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