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id="Do_you_have_questions_about_this_task,_please_ask_them_here!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Do_you_have_questions_about_this_task,_please_ask_them_here!-20240828132900"><span id="Do_you_have_questions_about_this_task.2C_please_ask_them_here.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Do_you_have_questions_about_this_task,_please_ask_them_here!-20240828132900"></span>Do you have questions about this task, please ask them here!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Do_you_have_questions_about_this_task,_please_ask_them_here!-20240828132900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link&action=edit&section=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Do you have questions about this task, please ask them here!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel">Latest comment: <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930111100-Bdijkstra-20240927211000">4 months ago</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel">4 comments</span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel">3 people in discussion</span> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240828132900-Do_you_have_questions_about_this_task,_please_ask_them_here!"></span>We will reply to you as soon as possible. --<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240828132900-Do_you_have_questions_about_this_task,_please_ask_them_here!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240828132900-Do_you_have_questions_about_this_task,_please_ask_them_here!"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240828132900-Do_you_have_questions_about_this_task,_please_ask_them_here!"></span></p> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bdijkstra-20240927211000-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240828132900"></span>What's the point of questions and feedback if the change is going to happen anyway? <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Bdijkstra?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Bdijkstra">bdijkstra</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Bdijkstra?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Bdijkstra">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Bdijkstra-20240927211000-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240828132900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bdijkstra-20240927211000-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240828132900"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Punctilla&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User talk:Punctilla (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Punctilla-20240928123500-Bdijkstra-20240927211000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:35, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Punctilla-20240928123500-Bdijkstra-20240927211000"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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editor's might have. -<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930111100-Bdijkstra-20240927211000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:11, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930111100-Bdijkstra-20240927211000"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930111100-Bdijkstra-20240927211000"></span> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section">  <h2 id="Why" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why-20240927190400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why-20240927190400"></span>Why<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why-20240927190400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link&action=edit&section=2&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Why"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel">Latest comment: <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241125104600-Gunnar_Larsson-20241113062800">2 months ago</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel">7 comments</span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel">4 people in discussion</span> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fr33kman-20240927190400-Why"></span>Is there a particular reason this move is taking place?<i><b><font color="#9966CC"><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Fr33kman?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Fr33kman">fr33k</a></font><font color="navy"><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Fr33kman?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="extiw" title="m:User talk:Fr33kman">man</a></font></b></i> <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Fr33kman-20240927190400-Why" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fr33kman-20240927190400-Why"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fr33kman-20240927190400-Why"></span></p> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Punctilla-20240928123600-Fr33kman-20240927190400"></span>Same question : is it useful ? for all and every contributor ? For smartphone users like me, it’s an exclusion…<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Punctilla&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Punctilla (page does not exist)">Punctilla</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Punctilla&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User talk:Punctilla (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Punctilla-20240928123600-Fr33kman-20240927190400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:36, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Punctilla-20240928123600-Fr33kman-20240927190400"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Punctilla-20240928123600-Fr33kman-20240927190400"></span> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930112000-Punctilla-20240928123600"></span>Thanks for your comments. </dd> <dd> @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Fr33kman?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Fr33kman">Fr33kman</a>: this task has been on the Phabricator board for a long time, a decade even. A few years ago the Wikidata team attempted to make the change but unforeseen circumstances reverted it. For us as a new software development team, it represents a great onboarding ticket for our developers to get to grips with MediaWiki. </dd> <dd> @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Punctilla&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Punctilla (page does not exist)">Punctilla</a>: we certainly hope (especially for newer editor's) that the new placement is more intuitive. We recognise that current editor's may need to get used to the new location. Indeed fr smartphone / mobile app users, there will be no change as the menu section lacks the sub-categories. We are tracking interactions / clicks on the link to have a measure on how behaviour may change after the link has moved. -<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930112000-Punctilla-20240928123600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930112000-Punctilla-20240928123600"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930112000-Punctilla-20240928123600"></span> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gunnar_Larsson-20241111204900-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930112000"></span>@<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a>: The new position virtually hides the link (at least on some wikis with many items under general you need to first open tools and then scroll to see it). What is the rationale for it? I would expect it makes the use of data from Wikidata very confusing for new editors, as the source of the data becomes more unclear. It seems like a step in the wrong direction. Rather than support Wikidata integration (by making the link more visible) it makes it harder. <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Gunnar_Larsson&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Gunnar Larsson (page does not exist)">Gunnar Larsson</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gunnar_Larsson&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User talk:Gunnar Larsson (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Gunnar_Larsson-20241111204900-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930112000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gunnar_Larsson-20241111204900-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930112000"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gunnar_Larsson-20241111204900-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930112000"></span> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241112132100-Gunnar_Larsson-20241111204900"></span>Hello @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Gunnar_Larsson&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Gunnar Larsson (page does not exist)">Gunnar Larsson</a>, thanks for your message. We did anticipate especially for existing editors that the sudden change may be confusing or take some getting used to. The logic that we are following and why the request was first created is when new editors or readers understand the association of sitelinked articles corresponding to the current page, if they wanted to explore the Wikidata information about the topic, it might be confusing that it's not placed with the other projects. -<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241112132100-Gunnar_Larsson-20241111204900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:21, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241112132100-Gunnar_Larsson-20241111204900"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241112132100-Gunnar_Larsson-20241111204900"></span> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gunnar_Larsson-20241113062800-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241112132100"></span>@<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a>: thank you for the answer. Do you have any data to base it on? I would expect it to be the other way around. For experienced users it is helpful to have a good structure to find things, whilst for new users it is a matter of actually knowing that things exist at all. If an element becomes as hidden as the wikidata link most people will not notice that it exists (that was my experience after returning after a 14 year hiatus). </dd> <dd> You also have another aspect. Whilst for other sister projects it is mostly "just another link to something interesting" with Wikidata and Commons you can include them directly in the articles. With Commons the interface is quite clear. If click on an image (from Commons) you will get information about it. With Wikidata it is more complex since data is included via templates/modules and hence to its nature more hidden. That makes it more important that it is clear that the information exists. Whilst some of that responsibility is on developers of templates/modules it cannot be solely their responsibility. My preference (which I know is unlikely to happen) would be to have another tab "data" next to "article", "discussion". <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Gunnar_Larsson&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Gunnar Larsson (page does not exist)">Gunnar Larsson</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gunnar_Larsson&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User talk:Gunnar Larsson (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Gunnar_Larsson-20241113062800-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241112132100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:28, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gunnar_Larsson-20241113062800-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241112132100"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gunnar_Larsson-20241113062800-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241112132100"></span> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241125104600-Gunnar_Larsson-20241113062800"></span>Apologies for such a long wait between replies @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Gunnar_Larsson&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Gunnar Larsson (page does not exist)">Gunnar Larsson</a>. As for data, I can refer you to this task of <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link/Track_data_object_usage?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="extiw" title="m:Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects/Projects/Move Wikidata item link/Track data object usage">tracking data object usage</a> pre- and post-data object move, but unfortunately I cannot reveal the data per confidentiality reasons. I can reveal (unfortunately without providing evidence) that interactions/clicks on the data object have increased post-move, but this can be (partially or wholly) attributed to increased attention to the change through communications to Village Pumps. -<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241125104600-Gunnar_Larsson-20241113062800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241125104600-Gunnar_Larsson-20241113062800"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241125104600-Gunnar_Larsson-20241113062800"></span> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section">  <h2 id="Wiktionary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wiktionary-20240927191100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wiktionary-20240927191100"></span>Wiktionary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wiktionary-20240927191100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link&action=edit&section=3&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Wiktionary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel">Latest comment: <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Taylor_49-20241001181000-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930120100">4 months ago</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel">5 comments</span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel">5 people in discussion</span> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FocalPoint-20240927191100-Wiktionary"></span>Will there be any change for Wiktionary? As far as I understand we do not have an "In Other Projects" section. <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:FocalPoint?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:FocalPoint">FocalPoint</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:FocalPoint?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:FocalPoint">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-FocalPoint-20240927191100-Wiktionary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FocalPoint-20240927191100-Wiktionary"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FocalPoint-20240927191100-Wiktionary"></span></p> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johannnes89-20240927195100-FocalPoint-20240927191100"></span>Probably depends on the namespace, pages like <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/en:Help:Contents" class="extiw" title="wikt:en:Help:Contents">wikt:en:Help:Contents</a> have a section "In other projects". <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Johannnes89?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Johannnes89">Johannnes89</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Johannnes89?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Johannnes89">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Johannnes89-20240927195100-FocalPoint-20240927191100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:51, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johannnes89-20240927195100-FocalPoint-20240927191100"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johannnes89-20240927195100-FocalPoint-20240927191100"></span> </dd> </dl> <dl> <dd> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LA2-20240927223600-Johannnes89-20240927195100"></span>As far as I can see in sv.wiktionary, the link is gone already today (September 28). I use the "Vector legacy 2010" skin (old look) and look at <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sv:mila" class="extiw" title="wikt:sv:mila">wikt:sv:mila</a> and there is no wikidata link. It is missing also from the "Vector 2022" skin. --<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:LA2?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:LA2">LA2</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:LA2?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:LA2">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-LA2-20240927223600-Johannnes89-20240927195100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LA2-20240927223600-Johannnes89-20240927195100"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LA2-20240927223600-Johannnes89-20240927195100"></span> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930120100-LA2-20240927223600"></span>Hi, thank you for your questions. There is a mediawiki extension for Wiktionary called <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cognate" class="extiw" title="mw:Extension:Cognate">Cognate</a> that handles the interwiki / interlanguage links in the article namespace for Wiktionaries. To offer some context, any instance of Wiktionary can have multiple articles on the same concept in different languages, as an example, the German Wiktionary has separate article pages for <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/wikt:fire" class="extiw" title="de:wikt:fire">Fire</a> and <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/wikt:Feuer" class="extiw" title="de:wikt:Feuer">Feuer</a>, this could create confusion and inconsistency on which article should be sitelinked to the Wikidata item. </dd> <dd> As @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Joh_joh&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Joh joh (page does not exist)">Joh joh</a> points out, the Wikidata item can be found on Wiktionary in other namespaces such as Project:, Special:, Template:. These pages do not require multiple versions on the same instance of wiktionary and so Wikidata can be sitelinked and handle the interlanguage links. </dd> <dd> @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:LA2?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:LA2">LA2</a> this should be correct for the article namespace. As an example, if you go to <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/wikt:Kategori:Svenska" class="extiw" title="sv:wikt:Kategori:Svenska">Kategori:Svenska</a> you should find a Wikidata-objekt (under Verktyg [Tools]) that will later this week move to (På andra projekt [In Other Projects]).-<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930120100-LA2-20240927223600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930120100-LA2-20240927223600"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930120100-LA2-20240927223600"></span> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <dl> <dd> <dl> <dd> <dl> <dd> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Taylor_49-20241001181000-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930120100"></span>False alarm. Nothing is broken on sv.wiktionary, the move has NOT occurred yet. And I use the <b>oldest vecor ever</b> and I am absolutely not keen to test even more "new" nonsense making the WMF wiki farm even more buggy, bloated, resource-inefficient and unusable. <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Taylor_49?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Taylor 49">Taylor 49</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Taylor_49?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Taylor 49">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Taylor_49-20241001181000-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930120100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Taylor_49-20241001181000-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930120100"><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Taylor_49-20241001181000-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930120100"></span> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section">  <h2 id="wikidatawiki_link" data-mw-thread-id="h-wikidatawiki_link-20240927191700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-wikidatawiki_link-20240927191700"></span>wikidatawiki link<span data-mw-comment-end="h-wikidatawiki_link-20240927191700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link&action=edit&section=4&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: wikidatawiki link"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel">Latest comment: <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930121700-Johannnes89-20240927194800">4 months ago</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel">3 comments</span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel">3 people in discussion</span> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bean49-20240927191700-wikidatawiki_link"></span>What happens if the Wikidata item has a <code>wikidatawiki</code> sitelink? Like <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4582194" class="extiw" title="d:Q4582194">d:Q4582194</a>. <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Bean49?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Bean49">Bean49</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bean49&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User talk:Bean49 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Bean49-20240927191700-wikidatawiki_link" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bean49-20240927191700-wikidatawiki_link"><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bean49-20240927191700-wikidatawiki_link"></span></p> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johannnes89-20240927194800-Bean49-20240927191700"></span>I had the same question. <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:VPT" class="extiw" title="en:WP:VPT">en:WP:VPT</a> currently has a "Wikidata item" link (<a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4582194" class="extiw" title="d:Q4582194">d:Q4582194</a>) in the "General" section and a "Wikidata" link (<a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Report_a_technical_problem" class="extiw" title="d:Wikidata:Report a technical problem">d:Wikidata:Report a technical problem</a>) in the "In other projects" section. Per <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T372566" class="extiw" title="phab:T372566">phab:T372566</a> it seems like both links will be shown which seems ok to me. <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Johannnes89?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Johannnes89">Johannnes89</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Johannnes89?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Johannnes89">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Johannnes89-20240927194800-Bean49-20240927191700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johannnes89-20240927194800-Bean49-20240927191700"><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johannnes89-20240927194800-Bean49-20240927191700"></span> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930121700-Johannnes89-20240927194800"></span>Thanks for bringing this up @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Bean49?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Bean49">Bean49</a>and @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Johannnes89?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Johannnes89">Johannnes89</a>, this question is a good candidate for the FAQ. Both of those links will co-exist in the "In Other Projects" section. -<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930121700-Johannnes89-20240927194800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930121700-Johannnes89-20240927194800"><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930121700-Johannnes89-20240927194800"></span> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section">  <h2 id="It_feels_like_it's_a_bit_too_late_to_worry_about_discoverability" data-mw-thread-id="h-It_feels_like_it's_a_bit_too_late_to_worry_about_discoverability-20240927192800"><span id="It_feels_like_it.27s_a_bit_too_late_to_worry_about_discoverability"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-It_feels_like_it's_a_bit_too_late_to_worry_about_discoverability-20240927192800"></span>It feels like it's a bit too late to worry about discoverability<span data-mw-comment-end="h-It_feels_like_it's_a_bit_too_late_to_worry_about_discoverability-20240927192800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link&action=edit&section=5&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: It feels like it's a bit too late to worry about discoverability"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel">Latest comment: <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Ericliu1912-20240928184000-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800">4 months ago</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel">6 comments</span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel">6 people in discussion</span> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800-It_feels_like_it's_a_bit_too_late_to_worry_about_discoverability"></span>Especially considering that most PC visitors, and probably most editors, are using the new Vector skin. In this new design, inter-project links are the <b>lowest</b> priority for the WMF, as they're essentially buried under the 'Tools' section, requiring even a few scrolls to come into view. And don't even get me started on mobile users. It's nearly impossible for a mobile user to ever stumble upon an inter-project link. <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ignacio_Rodr%C3%ADguez?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ignacio Rodríguez">Ignacio Rodríguez</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Ignacio_Rodr%C3%ADguez?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Ignacio Rodríguez">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800-It_feels_like_it's_a_bit_too_late_to_worry_about_discoverability" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800-It_feels_like_it's_a_bit_too_late_to_worry_about_discoverability"><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800-It_feels_like_it's_a_bit_too_late_to_worry_about_discoverability"></span></p> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ciaurlec-20240927204400-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800"></span>I agree with this observation--<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ciaurlec?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ciaurlec">Ciaurlec</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Ciaurlec?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Ciaurlec">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Ciaurlec-20240927204400-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ciaurlec-20240927204400-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800"><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ciaurlec-20240927204400-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800"></span> <dl> <dd> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Punctilla-20240928123900-Ciaurlec-20240927204400"></span>Me too ! Big problem for me !!! <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Punctilla&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Punctilla (page does not exist)">Punctilla</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Punctilla&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User talk:Punctilla (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Punctilla-20240928123900-Ciaurlec-20240927204400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Punctilla-20240928123900-Ciaurlec-20240927204400"><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Punctilla-20240928123900-Ciaurlec-20240927204400"></span> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stjn-20240927211700-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800"></span>Yeah, Vector 2022 basically made the whole block of these links meaningless. Still, I welcome this change given that Russian Wikipedia already implemented it via a gadget which we can now turn off. <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Stjn?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Stjn">stjn</a><sup><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:stjn" class="extiw" title="ru:user:stjn">[ru]</a></sup> <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Stjn-20240927211700-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stjn-20240927211700-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800"><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stjn-20240927211700-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800"></span> </dd> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Karmakolle-20240928123000-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800"></span>Hard agree. The Wikidata link should be central and it is frankly ridiculous that frivolities like 'Random article' get a higher priority. <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Karmakolle&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Karmakolle (page does not exist)">Karmakolle</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Karmakolle?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Karmakolle">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Karmakolle-20240928123000-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Karmakolle-20240928123000-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800"><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Karmakolle-20240928123000-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800"></span> </dd> <dd> <span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ericliu1912-20240928184000-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800"></span>@<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ignacio_Rodr%C3%ADguez?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ignacio Rodríguez">Ignacio Rodríguez</a>:</span> There are attempts to improve this situation at <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334792" class="extiw" title="phab:T334792">phab:T334792</a>, sadly not much progress were made lately. The idea clearly doesn't get enough attention. —— <b><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Ericliu1912?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Ericliu1912">Eric Liu</a></b><sub>（<b><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Ericliu1912?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Ericliu1912">Talk</a></b>）</sub> <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Ericliu1912-20240928184000-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ericliu1912-20240928184000-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800"><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ericliu1912-20240928184000-Ignacio_Rodríguez-20240927192800"></span> </dd> </dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section">  <h2 id="Problem_on_svWP?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Problem_on_svWP?-20240927222600"><span id="Problem_on_svWP.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Problem_on_svWP?-20240927222600"></span>Problem on svWP?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Problem_on_svWP?-20240927222600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link&action=edit&section=6&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Problem on svWP?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel">Latest comment: <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Sabelöga-20240930125700-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500">4 months ago</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel">3 comments</span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel">2 people in discussion</span> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sabelöga-20240927222600-Problem_on_svWP?"></span>On the Swedish Wikipedia, the In other languages subsection is placed in the main menu on the left. Is this also going to be moved to the tools menu on the right? As on other language versions. See <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrid_Lindgren" class="extiw" title="sv:Astrid Lindgren">sv:Astrid Lindgren</a>, <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrid_Lindgren" class="extiw" title="de:Astrid Lindgren">de:Astrid Lindgren</a>, <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrid_Lindgren" class="extiw" title="fr:Astrid Lindgren">fr:Astrid Lindgren</a>, <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrid_Lindgren" class="extiw" title="en:Astrid Lindgren">en:Astrid Lindgren</a> for example. <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Sabel%C3%B6ga?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Sabelöga">Sabelöga</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Sabel%C3%B6ga?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Sabelöga">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Sabelöga-20240927222600-Problem_on_svWP?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sabelöga-20240927222600-Problem_on_svWP?"><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sabelöga-20240927222600-Problem_on_svWP?"></span></p> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500-Sabelöga-20240927222600"></span>Hello @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Sabel%C3%B6ga?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Sabelöga">Sabelöga</a>, no the menu-sections should not change which side of the page they are aligned on, just the placement of the Wikidata item link. As an aside, if you view Swedish wikipedia in Vector 2022, the menu will align on the right-hand side.-<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500-Sabelöga-20240927222600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500-Sabelöga-20240927222600"><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500-Sabelöga-20240927222600"></span> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sabelöga-20240930125700-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500"></span>Yes, that's because, as I understand, <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bybrunnen%23c-EnDumEn-20240928074900-Sabel%C3%B6ga-20240927223700">it got moved back</a>. <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Sabel%C3%B6ga?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Sabelöga">Sabelöga</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Sabel%C3%B6ga?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Sabelöga">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Sabelöga-20240930125700-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:57, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sabelöga-20240930125700-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500"><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sabelöga-20240930125700-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500"></span> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section">  <h2 id="Big_problem_for_me_!!!_(frWP)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Big_problem_for_me_!!!_(frWP)-20240928123300"><span id="Big_problem_for_me_.21.21.21_.28frWP.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Big_problem_for_me_!!!_(frWP)-20240928123300"></span>Big problem for me !!! (frWP)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Big_problem_for_me_!!!_(frWP)-20240928123300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link&action=edit&section=7&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Big problem for me !!! (frWP)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel">Latest comment: <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Punctilla-20241017175900-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930123300">4 months ago</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel">4 comments</span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel">3 people in discussion</span> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Punctilla-20240928123300-Big_problem_for_me_!!!_(frWP)"></span>I use mainly my smartphone to contribute, and the present configuration is convenient for me. I have absolutely no idea where I will find the link if you move it : no visible access to « Dans les autres projets » on my smartphone ! I don’t understand why this change is planned and I don’t appreciate it at all : it means smartphone users won’t be able to remove errors rather fréquent in descriptions (translation error, vandalisme…). Thanks for attention. <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Punctilla&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Punctilla (page does not exist)">Punctilla</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Punctilla&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User talk:Punctilla (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Punctilla-20240928123300-Big_problem_for_me_!!!_(frWP)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Punctilla-20240928123300-Big_problem_for_me_!!!_(frWP)"><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Punctilla-20240928123300-Big_problem_for_me_!!!_(frWP)"></span></p> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johannnes89-20240928192300-Punctilla-20240928123300"></span>According to <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#I_view_Wikimedia_sites_on_mobile,_will_this_affect_me?" title="Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects/Projects/Move Wikidata item link">Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects/Projects/Move Wikidata item link#I view Wikimedia sites on mobile, will this affect me?</a> mobile users shouldn't be affected. <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Johannnes89?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Johannnes89">Johannnes89</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Johannnes89?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Johannnes89">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Johannnes89-20240928192300-Punctilla-20240928123300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johannnes89-20240928192300-Punctilla-20240928123300"><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johannnes89-20240928192300-Punctilla-20240928123300"></span> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930123300-Johannnes89-20240928192300"></span>Hello @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Punctilla&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Punctilla (page does not exist)">Punctilla</a>, thank you for voicing your concerns. I hope it reassures you and as @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Johannnes89?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Johannnes89">Johannnes89</a>correctly points out, we have included an exception for the MinervaNeue (aka Mobile) skin that the Wikidata item will remain under the <i>⋮More</i> menu.-<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930123300-Johannnes89-20240928192300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930123300-Johannnes89-20240928192300"><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930123300-Johannnes89-20240928192300"></span> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Punctilla-20241017175900-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930123300"></span>Bonsoir @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Johannnes89?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Johannnes89">User:Johannnes89</a> and @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a>. I apologize for the too long time I took to answer; thanks a lot for kind information and answer! — <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User:Punctilla&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User:Punctilla (page does not exist)">Punctilla</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Punctilla&action=edit&redlink=1&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" class="new" title="User talk:Punctilla (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Punctilla-20241017175900-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930123300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Punctilla-20241017175900-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930123300"><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Punctilla-20241017175900-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930123300"></span> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section">  <h2 id="Question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question-20240929093300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question-20240929093300"></span>Question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question-20240929093300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link&action=edit&section=8&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: Question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel">Latest comment: <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500-ToadetteEdit-20240929093300">4 months ago</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel">2 comments</span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel">2 people in discussion</span> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ToadetteEdit-20240929093300-Question"></span>Will this mean that the "# language(s)" link on Vector 2022 be gone? <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:ToadetteEdit?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:ToadetteEdit">ToadetteEdit</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:ToadetteEdit?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:ToadetteEdit">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-ToadetteEdit-20240929093300-Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 29 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ToadetteEdit-20240929093300-Question"><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ToadetteEdit-20240929093300-Question"></span></p> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500-ToadetteEdit-20240929093300"></span>Hi @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:ToadetteEdit?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:ToadetteEdit">ToadetteEdit</a>, no there should be no change to the Languages dropdown.-<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500-ToadetteEdit-20240929093300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500-ToadetteEdit-20240929093300"><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20240930122500-ToadetteEdit-20240929093300"></span> </dd> </dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section">  <h2 id="What_if_a_sitelink_to_Wikidata_already_exists?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_if_a_sitelink_to_Wikidata_already_exists?-20241003145800"><span id="What_if_a_sitelink_to_Wikidata_already_exists.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_if_a_sitelink_to_Wikidata_already_exists?-20241003145800"></span>What if a sitelink to Wikidata already exists?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_if_a_sitelink_to_Wikidata_already_exists?-20241003145800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link&action=edit&section=9&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: What if a sitelink to Wikidata already exists?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel">Latest comment: <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241023133700-Jonesey95-20241022180300">3 months ago</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel">4 comments</span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel">3 people in discussion</span> </div> <div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions">  </div> </div> </div> <p><a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Help:Purge" class="extiw" title="w:en:Help:Purge"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Seudo-20241003145800-What_if_a_sitelink_to_Wikidata_already_exists?"></span>w:en:Help:Purge</a> contains both a "Wikidata item" link and an "In other projects" link to Wikidata (because <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11052584" class="extiw" title="d:Q11052584">d:Q11052584</a> has both "Wikipedia" links and an "other site" link to <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:FAQ" class="extiw" title="d:Help:FAQ">d:Help:FAQ</a>). If the "Wikidata item" is moved to the "In other projects" section, will there be <i>two</i> links to Wikidata? Or will one of them disappear? <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Seudo?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Seudo">Seudo</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Seudo?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Seudo">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Seudo-20241003145800-What_if_a_sitelink_to_Wikidata_already_exists?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Seudo-20241003145800-What_if_a_sitelink_to_Wikidata_already_exists?"><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive 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the naming convention of these 2 links remain the same is part of another Phabricator ticket <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T372566">T372566</a> and will be investigated by a UX researcher/designer in collaboration with the Wiki community. -<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241004122900-Seudo-20241003145800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241004122900-Seudo-20241003145800"><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241004122900-Seudo-20241003145800"></span> </dd> </dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"> <h3 id="The_word_"item"_is_probably_superfluous_now" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_word_"item"_is_probably_superfluous_now-What_if_a_sitelink_to_Wikidata_already_exists?-20241022180300"><span id="The_word_.22item.22_is_probably_superfluous_now"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_word_"item"_is_probably_superfluous_now-What_if_a_sitelink_to_Wikidata_already_exists?-20241022180300"></span>The word "item" is probably superfluous now<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_word_"item"_is_probably_superfluous_now-What_if_a_sitelink_to_Wikidata_already_exists?-20241022180300"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link&action=edit&section=10&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="Edit section: The word "item" is probably superfluous now"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241022180300-The_word_"item"_is_probably_superfluous_now"></span>The word "item" is probably superfluous, now that the link is in the correct place. None of the other links in that section have the word "item" (or "article", or "page") after them. [Edited to add: I see that some pages have both "Wikidata" and "Wikidata item" links that can lead to different places, e.g. at <a href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:VPT" class="extiw" title="en:WP:VPT">en:WP:VPT</a>. That might cause some confusion.] <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jonesey95?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Jonesey95-20241022180300-The_word_"item"_is_probably_superfluous_now" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241022180300-The_word_"item"_is_probably_superfluous_now"><span id="ooui-php-37" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241022180300-The_word_"item"_is_probably_superfluous_now"></span></p> <dl> <dd> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241023133700-Jonesey95-20241022180300"></span>Hello @<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Jonesey95?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a>, thanks for your message. Yes, as you mentioned in your edit there is now in some circumstances, two Wikidata sitelinks in the <b>In Other Projects</b> section exist. We do have it on our <a class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T372566">phabricator board</a> to investigate the best way to differentiate these two links and reduce confusion. -<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">Danny Benjafield (WMDE)</a> (<a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/User_talk:Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB" title="User talk:Danny Benjafield (WMDE)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB#c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241023133700-Jonesey95-20241022180300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241023133700-Jonesey95-20241022180300"><span id="ooui-php-38" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui="{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}"><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danny_Benjafield_(WMDE)-20241023133700-Jonesey95-20241022180300"></span> </dd> </dl>   </div> <noscript> <img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=desktop&type=1x1&usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"> </noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet=""> Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://meta-wikimedia-org.translate.goog/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link&oldid=27855559&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB">https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Projects/Move_Wikidata_item_link&oldid=27855559</a>" </div> </div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer"> <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod">This page was last edited on 25 November 2024, at 10:46.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://translate.google.com/website?sl=auto&tl=en&hl=en-GB&u=https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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