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In response to the judgment, three ISPs have already announced that they will take the case to the Supreme Court. In addition, The Pirate Bay itself now says it will sue the anti-piracy outfit IFPI if the ISPs fail to overturn the ruling.</p> </div> <p><img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com//images/tpb.jpg" align="right" alt="pirate bay"/>The decision to block The Pirate Bay has once again ignited a debate on Internet filtering, the responsibilities of Internet providers and the legal status of BitTorrent sites. The IFPI - the RIAA’s global partner - has chalked up a small victory this week, but the fight is far from over.</p> <p>Peter Sunde, co-founder of <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://thepiratebay.org/">The Pirate Bay</a> told TorrentFreak that they are seriously considering suing the IFPI for unfair competition. “They have had a monopoly on distribution and we’re breaking that monopoly, and in turn they sue people that allow access to our distribution method,” he said.</p> <p>Meanwhile, all other BitTorrent sites are still accessible in Denmark, and thus far the IFPI hasn’t announced it will go after any of them. This, together with the fact that there are several tricks to get around the block, make their legal strategy look like a personal vendetta against The Pirate Bay instead of an effective measure against piracy. </p> <p>Before The Pirate Bay takes action against the IFPI, they will first await the outcome of the Supreme Court appeal that the three ISPs - DC, Telia and Telenor - <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://torrentfreak.com/danish-isps-to-fight-the-pirate-bay-block-090205/">announced</a> earlier this week. If the appeal is unsuccessful, and when they find the perfect lawyer to represent them, The Pirate Bay will sue IFPI.</p> <p>The IFPI seems to be looking forward to yet another confrontation. “Peter Sunde is welcome to sue us,” Jesper Bay, the head of the Danish IFPI told <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://www.comon.dk/news/pirate.bay.vil.sagsoge.ifpi_39620.html">Comon.dk</a> in a response to the news. Ironically, one of the websites explaining how to get around the Danish blockade carries <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://thejesperbay.dk/">Jesper Bay’s</a> name.</p> <p>For now, the Pirate Bay team has another court case to focus on. <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-gets-ready-for-court-case-090126/">In two weeks</a> their trial in Sweden kicks off, where the IFPI will also be one of their opponents. To be continued.</p> <div id="related_entries" class="alt_extra"> <span class="post_meta"> <span class="saved_in"><span>Saved in: </span><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://torrentfreak.com/category/anti-piracy-gangs/" title="View all posts in Anti-Piracy Gangs" rel="category tag">Anti-Piracy Gangs</a>, <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://torrentfreak.com/category/hot-off-the-press/" title="View all posts in Hot Off The Press" rel="category tag">Hot Off The Press</a>, <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://torrentfreak.com/category/legal-issues/" title="View all posts in Legal Issues" rel="category tag">Legal Issues</a><br/></span> <span class="tagged_with">Tags: <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://torrentfreak.com/tag/denmark/" rel="tag">denmark</a>, <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://torrentfreak.com/tag/ifpi/" rel="tag">IFPI</a>, <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://torrentfreak.com/tag/jesper-bay/" rel="tag">jesper bay</a>, <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://torrentfreak.com/tag/the-pirate-bay/" rel="tag">the pirate bay</a>, <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://torrentfreak.com/tag/tpb/" rel="tag">tpb</a></span> </span> </div> <p class="previous">Previously: <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://torrentfreak.com/linuxtracker-pushing-180-terabytes-of-linux-a-year-090206/">Linuxtracker - Moving 180 Terabytes of Linux a Year</a></p> <p class="next">Next: <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://torrentfreak.com/why-mac-users-are-better-pirates-090206/">Mac vs. PC: The Pirate Edition</a></p> <div class="digg"><script type="text/javascript"> digg_url = 'http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-plans-to-sue-ifpi-090206/'; </script> <script src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042js_/http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script> </div> <div class="stumble"><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://www.stumbleupon.com/submit?url=http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-plans-to-sue-ifpi-090206/&title=The Pirate Bay Plans to Sue IFPI"><img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://cdn.stumble-upon.com/images/32x32_su_solid.gif"></a></div> <div class="reddit"><script type="text/javascript"> yahooBuzzArticleHeadline = The Pirate Bay Plans to Sue IFPI; yahooBuzzArticleSummary = "<p>Earlier this week a Danish court decided that all ISPs have to block access to The Pirate Bay. 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I seriously doubt it. The cases of courts being corrupt in Western countries are very rare. It is entirely possible for the court to make a finding against TPB and not be corrupt. They are arguing and deciding on how the law should be applied - if you disagree with the decision that is made is doesn’t mean they are corrupt… seriously, wierd that you attached the word “logic” to that sentence.</p> <p>I may be proved wrong but I fail to see how TPB can sue for “unfair competition” in this case - how does that work? I can see other possiblities to sue them certainly, but that seems far stretched to me.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529582" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529582" title="Permanent link to comment 529582">4</a> Feb 06, 2009 at 17:59 by Kramerica Industries</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>unfair competition in the sense that they are merely a search engine, and perhaps the IFPI is in cahoots with other search engine sites?</p> <p>that’s all i can think of.</p> <p>btw, what happened to the new posting format? no more?</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529583" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529583" title="Permanent link to comment 529583">5</a> Feb 06, 2009 at 18:01 by <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://www.10ch.org/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">www.10ch.org</a></span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>Are we global piracy united? For if we are, there is no way the MPAA and RIAA can win. As long as we have a will to fight back. But we have the Pirate Bay - let us stand behind them!</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529585" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529585" title="Permanent link to comment 529585">6</a> Feb 06, 2009 at 18:47 by Sandeep</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>Hope they win the case in Sweden. The entire bittorrent system will depend on that case.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529588" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529588" title="Permanent link to comment 529588">7</a> Feb 06, 2009 at 19:47 by Pat</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>I dont know where the pirate bay got the cash for lawyer. </p> <p>I hope they will because file sharing IS THE FUTURE!</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529590" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529590" title="Permanent link to comment 529590">8</a> Feb 06, 2009 at 19:59 by The DON</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>Re: Unfair competition.<br/> The case against IFPI for stifling competitors stems from the fact that TPB (BitTorrent) is a superb distribution tool that can, and is being used by content creators to distribute their content for free. The IFPI does not like this because it means that their money sources are not in control of distribution and are being bypassed. This means that the old school distributors (record labels etc) are not recieving funds for work distributed in this way, and therefore neither is the IFPI recieving any share of that money.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529592" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529592" title="Permanent link to comment 529592">9</a> Feb 06, 2009 at 20:49 by NubCakes</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>“distribution tool that can, and is being used by content creators to distribute their content for free”</p> <p>Yes, I see the point your are making - didn’t think of that actually, silly me. Interesting one as they can hardly argue that there are not legal uses for the tracker.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529595" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529595" title="Permanent link to comment 529595">10</a> Feb 06, 2009 at 22:00 by Simzy</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>Its as simple as this, Pirate Bay 1000,000,000,000,000,000,000, IFPI 0. They will never win against file sharing and even if they (dare i say it) did manage to close down TPB there will always be another site to take its place.</p> <p>The Future is now my friends and file sharing is here to stay.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529599" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529599" title="Permanent link to comment 529599">11</a> Feb 06, 2009 at 22:20 by Concerned</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>It boils down to the music and media industries clinging to a bad business model. Some one should step up and work to find a way these two systems can coexist, with out massive personel cuts. The industry needs to open itself up to change.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529606" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529606" title="Permanent link to comment 529606">12</a> Feb 06, 2009 at 22:59 by Anonymous</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>i plan to sue The Pirate Bay for distribution of CP and copyrighted material and for helping criminals to download illegal stuff</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529608" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529608" title="Permanent link to comment 529608">13</a> Feb 06, 2009 at 23:12 by TPB</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>Long Live TPB</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529609" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529609" title="Permanent link to comment 529609">14</a> Feb 06, 2009 at 23:18 by Brett</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>Has this not happened before?<br/> The Pirate Bay will win, and even if they lose they’ll be back in another country</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529610" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529610" title="Permanent link to comment 529610">15</a> Feb 06, 2009 at 23:20 by anonymous</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>“Corruption? I seriously doubt it. The cases of courts being corrupt in Western countries are very rare. ”</p> <p>Hahahah…Ahahahah…. HAHAHAAH</p> <p>Yeah, no.</p> <p>Corruption runs just as rampant in Western countries as everywhere else. </p> <p>If the Danish courts rule agaisnt The Pirate Bay, it is indeed a case of corruption, because TPB is no different from your average run-of-the-mill search engine.</p> <p>If you block TPB when Google is somehow unblocked despite the fact that it commits the exact same “crimes”, then you can hardly claim to be an honest and impartial judge of the law. </p> <p>@Simzy<br/> “if they (dare i say it) did manage to close down TPB there will always be another site to take its place”</p> <p>Yeah. If they ever succeed in taking down The Pirate Bay, it’ll just be replaced by another site, like… The Pirate Bay, running off its backup servers :D </p> <p>@Anonymous<br/> “i plan to sue The Pirate Bay for distribution of CP”</p> <p>Hmm… </p> <p>Considering TPB has a reputation for immediately deleting anything a user reports as childporn(provided its legit, and they’re not just being a douchebag and reporting Microsoft Office or something), you must be a slobbering pedo to even notice when CP hits The Pirate Bay, what with its short lifespan. Really, you must seriously be looking for it.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529615" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529615" title="Permanent link to comment 529615">16</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 00:08 by www.thecash-crate.tk</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>I Hope that TPB win the court case ..</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529617" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529617" title="Permanent link to comment 529617">17</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 00:25 by TheFuzzball</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>The great thing about the bittorrent community is that it is practically indestructable unless everyone who uses the network decides they aren’t going to use it any more, no matter what blocking software ISPs use or what laws are made people will always find another way. I need not say good luck to The Bay, because I know that they cannot be defeated, nor can any other torrent source.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529623" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529623" title="Permanent link to comment 529623">18</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 00:54 by Markidjani</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>In piracy era nobody sue rapidshare and other similar companies. Why? They are hear to do transicion and legalize everithing. Goverment tools.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529636" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529636" title="Permanent link to comment 529636">19</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 01:20 by Ellison</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>“They have had a monopoly on distribution and we’re breaking that monopoly, and in turn they sue people that allow access to our distribution method,” Ha. What ridiculous spin from the pirate bay.</p> <p>I hope TPB spends so much money suing IFPI that TPB goes bankrupt. F-ing crooks.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529644" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529644" title="Permanent link to comment 529644">20</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 02:02 by Matt`</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>On the one side, they’re an excellent means of distribution for free content and may be able to argue blocking to be unfair competition… but doesn’t that then have the potential to backfire - if they’re a means of distributing music then the industry guys could hold them liable for distributing things illegally.</p> <p>At the least they’d be on the same footing as Youtube - expected to take down illegally copied postings by their users. Or would they… I don’t know Swedish law, is their any provision for takedowns like that? Considering they’ve made it this far I guess not.</p> <p>Ah well, armchair lawyering aside, long live TPB.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529645" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529645" title="Permanent link to comment 529645">21</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 02:07 by Anonymous</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>@Ellison</p> <p>wtf are you doing here?</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529650" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529650" title="Permanent link to comment 529650">22</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 02:57 by fisherman</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>the news about TPB always amuse me :)<br/> these guys have the guts to stand up, which i really like. also, i had to smile when they published an article similar to this one in the biggest swiss newspaer :D</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529658" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529658" title="Permanent link to comment 529658">23</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 04:12 by grawss</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>I am a Pirate Bay fan. Not because they’re a good tracker, which they are, but because these guys have nickel plated, solid steel balls. And an awesome logo.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529660" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529660" title="Permanent link to comment 529660">24</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 05:30 by Ellison</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>Re: Matt<br/> > “if they’re a means of distributing music then the industry guys could hold them liable for distributing things illegally. At the least they’d be on the same footing as Youtube - expected to take down illegally copied postings by their users. Or would they… I don’t know Swedish law, is their any provision for takedowns like that? Considering they’ve made it this far I guess not.”</p> <p>Because they only link to the content, rather than host it, they are in a Swedish-law loophole. If you send the pirate bay a letter asking them to take-down content (actually, unlink to it), they’ll send you back a letter telling you to go f*** yourself and threaten to countersue for harassment. That’s right - if you’re an poor artist like me - the pirate bay will tell you to f*** yourself and threaten to sue for creating the content that makes them famous.</p> <p>> wtf are you doing here?<br/> This article was linked by digg. I wanted to take the opportunity to tell you how the pirate bay screws over digital creators like me.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529668" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529668" title="Permanent link to comment 529668">25</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 06:33 by United Hackers Association</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>“”Corruption? I seriously doubt it. The cases of courts being corrupt in Western countries are very rare.”"</p> <p>OH you mean like the mpaa getting its lawyers into got positions with the obama govt and getting the dmca lopsided copyright laws into the usa and the thousands a people that have been threatened and sued over the years.</p> <p>NOPE NO CORUPTION HTERE at all.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529669" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529669" title="Permanent link to comment 529669">26</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 06:34 by United Hackers Association</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>got = govt</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529676" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529676" title="Permanent link to comment 529676">27</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 09:19 by piracy is the real art</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>@Ellison </p> <p>Isn’t an artists purpose to enrich the culture with their creations (that are also a means to express the artists feelings are beliefs)? So you don’t care that p2p in fact better allows you to express yourself (bringing your creations to a much wider audience)? Ohhh but you’re not an artist, you’re just a pretender looking to get rich by creating stereotypical “art” (probably adapting someone else’s creation).</p> <p>Don’t want to judge you but you don’t seem very good artist, if your art isn’t good enough to make people buy it :)You and people that think like you are are inquisition, trying to deter (hey at least you don’t have the power to burn pirates alive, though I think many of likes of you would love that) evolution of humanity (yes widespread easy access to culture and information does lead to that, unlike the corporate greedy bastards that lead the media would like people to think so).</p> <p>File Sharing is just a natural response to an increase of very bad media content offered by many artists (wannabe crooks who only care about getting rich fast), communist practices by media companies (not allowing enough preview of the content for once), the utterly lack of distribution in some parts of the words, the unfair prices (a wii game for example costs like 20% of the “medium” wage in my country).</p> <p>So Ellison stop crying and look at your own “art” if you want to see the reasons you are poor, and stop accusing torrent trackers for your failure (their responses to mails are just natural answers to the stupidity of those who write them).</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529679" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529679" title="Permanent link to comment 529679">28</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 10:33 by JOe</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>Well then, we’ll just regress back to IRC… no biggie.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529682" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529682" title="Permanent link to comment 529682">29</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 12:50 by Clem</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>Long live TPB.<br/> These people making world history. World is watching guys.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529686" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529686" title="Permanent link to comment 529686">30</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 13:43 by Anonymous</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>Good luck #12</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529688" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529688" title="Permanent link to comment 529688">31</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 14:19 by Fingle</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>It is a dark and dreary time. How much of the world can afford to purchase the major movie studio brainwashing creations? What worker has the time or money to do business with the likes of , what is it?… NetFlciks? People who purchase media and go to movie houses have extra money. So they are the elite consumers. The rest of the working world then lives in a vacuum. TPB breaks this vacuum and allows the worker a little release from this tedium, it allows poor and worn people with internet to enjoy a movie now and then, a “2007 Super Mix Collection” now and then, and to escape the vacuum a little, even under threat of police, lawyers, and courts to come and ruin their lives.</p> <p>The major movie houses can make their monies from those who decide to support to them. There is room for the two markets: the cam-videos and copies from TPB, and the people who have money to buy the high quality original DVD’s or to go to the movie houses. As far as “original artists” like Ellison, these have to find people who support them, who will pay them. Because TPB is fictionally eliminated does not equal money in the pocket for people like “Ellison.”</p> <p>The most significant effect of TPB is that whole worlds are opened up for purpose of sociological study, old media, and the landslide of new high-dollar often low-value contrivances from the major studios. Hopefully in the long term there will be some kind of society evolution as media content is opened up and accessible across the countries of the world. The one thing TPB does is make media accessible across countries and this is their significant social value and why I support them.</p> <p>Fingle</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529689" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529689" title="Permanent link to comment 529689">32</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 14:23 by jerk</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>since its just a game about who has the best lawyers, I’d like to contribute more. So I offer to beat up the children of one member of the management board of mpaa/ifpi/riaa or any other criminal lobbyist group.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529693" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529693" title="Permanent link to comment 529693">33</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 16:11 by <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042/http://www.10ch.org/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">www.10ch.org</a></span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>One thing to note is that Denmark is probably one of the least corrupt nations on Earth. The Corruption Perceptions Index ranks Denmark as #1 for being perceived as having less corruption.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529697" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529697" title="Permanent link to comment 529697">34</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 17:03 by www.notyouraveragescene.com</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>I never would have imagined a torrent site would stand up to fight the IFPI/RIAA as much as TPB has. Kudos</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529700" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529700" title="Permanent link to comment 529700">35</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 17:41 by Dan Glickman</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>We really want to stop the criminals that reseller millions of copies so we’re going after the source, well we’re such dumdasses we think it’s right. We don’t understand the community so we’re shooting ourselves in the foot and kicking our own asses.</p> <p>Dumbasses like us can only go after the easy targets like the torrent sites, we don’t have the man balls to go after the real criminals because they have big guns.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529719" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529719" title="Permanent link to comment 529719">36</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 18:16 by Neverhood</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>“#12 Feb 06, 2009 at 22:59 by Anonymous</p> <p>i plan to sue The Pirate Bay for distribution of CP and copyrighted material and for helping criminals to download illegal stuff”</p> <p>I plan to sue you because you are helping people do crime by spreading information about the pirate bay, where people can find information about how to do a potential criminal activity.</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529780" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529780" title="Permanent link to comment 529780">37</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 21:54 by Anonymous</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>Yea baby!, everyone sue each other now. It’s the cool thing to do.</p> <p>woooooooooooo!</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529786" class="alt"> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529786" title="Permanent link to comment 529786">38</a> Feb 07, 2009 at 22:12 by Trancfreak</span> </dt> <dd class="alt "><p>hey i’m from denmark :D </p> <p>i HATE ifpi, and their n00b blocking of TPB is easy to cheat, i just use openDNS :p </p> <p>i would love if TPB took this case to court, cuz i dont think that its ok to censorship the www!<br/> everybody!, donate to TPB, click their ads,MAKE THEM STRONGER! :D</p> </dd> <dt id="comment-529825" class=""> <img src="http://web.archive.org/web/20090208071042im_/http://torrentfreak.com/wp-content/themes/tf4/images/gravatar.jpg"/> <span><a href="#comment-529825" title="Permanent link to comment 529825">39</a> Feb 08, 2009 at 02:15 by Ad</span> </dt> <dd class=" "><p>Man, their balls are so damn big 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