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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Computing" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Computing</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Computing</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Computing articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Redirects_in_nav_boxes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Redirects_in_nav_boxes-20230121013100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Redirects_in_nav_boxes-20230121013100"></span>Redirects in nav boxes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Redirects_in_nav_boxes-20230121013100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Computer_files&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Redirects in nav boxes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mikeblas-20230121013100-Redirects_in_nav_boxes"></span>I've replaced the fixes I previously made to the redirects in this navigation template, per the advice in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NAVNOREDIRECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NAVNOREDIRECT">WP:NAVNOREDIRECT</a>. Navigation templates are meant to lead to articles, not through redirects to articles. When redirected, the navigation template won't embolden the page it landed on because it links to the redirect, not the actual landing page. I think it's pretty clear that the redirects shouldn't be here. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Mikeblas" title="User:Mikeblas">Mikeblas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mikeblas" title="User talk:Mikeblas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Computer_files#c-Mikeblas-20230121013100-Redirects_in_nav_boxes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:31, 21 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mikeblas-20230121013100-Redirects_in_nav_boxes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mikeblas-20230121013100-Redirects_in_nav_boxes"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrE-112358-20230122181400-Redirects_in_nav_boxes"></span>Regarding <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_compression&redirect=no">File compression</a></span> vs. <a href="/wiki/Data_compression" title="Data compression">Data compression</a>, these terms do not actually mean quite the same thing. File compression uses Data compression, but the concept of Data compression <em>does not include</em> the nature of the compressed data being stored in a file. </p><p>Also, while WP:NAVNOREDIRECT suggests that "it is usually preferable not to use redirected links in navigational templates, such as those found at the bottom of many articles", the fact is that Data compression doesn't even include this Computer_files template at all, so this is completely irrelevant. </p><p>As such, the following item in WP:DONOTFIXIT seems the most relevant aspect, considering that these terms are not the same and tracking the use of the proper term would be helpful. </p> <div style="margin: 0.5em 10%; border: 1px solid; padding: 0.25em;"> <p>Reasons not to bypass redirects include: </p> <ul><li>Non-piped links make better use of the "what links here" tool, making it easier to track how articles are linked and helping with large-scale changes to links.</li></ul> </div> <p>-- <a href="/wiki/User:MrE-112358" title="User:MrE-112358">MrE-112358</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrE-112358" title="User talk:MrE-112358">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Computer_files#c-MrE-112358-20230122181400-Redirects_in_nav_boxes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 22 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrE-112358-20230122181400-Redirects_in_nav_boxes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrE-112358-20230122181400-Redirects_in_nav_boxes"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrE-112358-20230122181400-Redirects_in_nav_boxes-1"></span>Regarding <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NTFS%20junction%20point&redirect=no">NTFS junction point</a></span> vs. <a href="/wiki/NTFS_links" title="NTFS links">NTFS links</a>, here also the two terms do not mean the same thing, but it is even more distinct here because a junction point is explicitly only one type of NTFS link. This is even specified in the redirect page itself by pointing to the #Types section of the page, not the page itself. </p><p>As such, the redirect should be used to refer specifically to NTFS junction point, because this template already specifies a completely different section referring to linking in general: "Linking", while the junction point is being specifically called out as a reference to a directory specific concept in the section "Organization". </p><p>The mere fact the "NTFS links" does not refer to the same target as "NTFS junction point", where the latter points to a section <em>on</em> that page, means this is not a change of the use of a redirect, but a change in the target concept the link is intended to refer to. </p><p>-- <a href="/wiki/User:MrE-112358" title="User:MrE-112358">MrE-112358</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrE-112358" title="User talk:MrE-112358">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Computer_files#c-MrE-112358-20230122181400-Redirects_in_nav_boxes-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 22 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrE-112358-20230122181400-Redirects_in_nav_boxes-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrE-112358-20230122181400-Redirects_in_nav_boxes-1"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Computer_files&oldid=1229330358">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Computer_files&oldid=1229330358</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Template-Class_Computing_articles" title="Category:Template-Class Computing articles">Template-Class Computing articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:NA-importance_Computing_articles" title="Category:NA-importance Computing articles">NA-importance Computing articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:All_Computing_articles" title="Category:All Computing articles">All Computing articles</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 16 June 2024, at 06:21<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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