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colspan="3" class="wpb-collapsed-notes"><table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"><tbody><tr><th colspan="3" class="wpb-collapsed-head">Associated task forces:</th></tr><tr><td class="mbox-image wpb-gutter" style="min-width:50px"><span class="wpb-iefix">/ </span></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Arms_of_the_United_Kingdom_(since_1837).svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Taskforce icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Arms_of_the_United_Kingdom_%28since_1837%29.svg/26px-Arms_of_the_United_Kingdom_%28since_1837%29.svg.png" decoding="async" width="26" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Arms_of_the_United_Kingdom_%28since_1837%29.svg/39px-Arms_of_the_United_Kingdom_%28since_1837%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/Arms_of_the_United_Kingdom_%28since_1837%29.svg/51px-Arms_of_the_United_Kingdom_%28since_1837%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="410" data-file-height="478"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/British_military_history_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/British military history task force">British military history task force</a></td></tr><tr><td><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Europe_satellite_globe.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Taskforce icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Europe_satellite_globe.jpg/34px-Europe_satellite_globe.jpg" decoding="async" width="34" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Europe_satellite_globe.jpg/51px-Europe_satellite_globe.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Europe_satellite_globe.jpg/68px-Europe_satellite_globe.jpg 2x" data-file-width="800" data-file-height="704"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/European_military_history_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/European military history task force">European military history task force</a></td></tr><tr><td><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Bundeswehr_Kreuz.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Taskforce icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Bundeswehr_Kreuz.svg/30px-Bundeswehr_Kreuz.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Bundeswehr_Kreuz.svg/45px-Bundeswehr_Kreuz.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Bundeswehr_Kreuz.svg/60px-Bundeswehr_Kreuz.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="753" data-file-height="753"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/German_military_history_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/German military history task force">German military history task force</a></td></tr><tr><td><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Sherman_Tank_WW2.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Taskforce icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Sherman_Tank_WW2.jpg/43px-Sherman_Tank_WW2.jpg" decoding="async" width="43" height="24" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Sherman_Tank_WW2.jpg/65px-Sherman_Tank_WW2.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Sherman_Tank_WW2.jpg/86px-Sherman_Tank_WW2.jpg 2x" data-file-width="997" data-file-height="557"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/World_War_II_task_force" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/World War II task force">World War II task force</a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1259570071"><table class="tmbox tmbox-notice mw-collapsible innercollapse wpb wpb-table"><tbody><tr class="wpb-header"><td class="wpb-header-icon"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Flag_of_Germany.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="WikiProject icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/ba/Flag_of_Germany.svg/35px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="21" class="mw-file-element" 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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Songs" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Songs</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Songs</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">song articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Execution" data-mw-thread-id="h-Execution"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Execution"></span>Execution<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Execution"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Execution"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>The singing of "Lili Marleen" <b>after</b> the executions seems to be proven in the case of Kalavrita (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.vvn-bda.de/nuernberg/kalavrita.htm">http://www.vvn-bda.de/nuernberg/kalavrita.htm</a>), but "used to play it during executions" generalizes a bit too much in my opinion. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Reinhard&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Reinhard (page does not exist)">Reinhard</a> 18:19 17 Jun 2003 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="stehen_or_steh'n?" data-mw-thread-id="h-stehen_or_steh'n?-2005-09-16T20:07:00.000Z"><span id="stehen_or_steh.27n.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-stehen_or_steh'n?-2005-09-16T20:07:00.000Z"></span>stehen or steh'n?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-stehen_or_steh'n?-2005-09-16T20:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: stehen or steh'n?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2005-09-16T20:07:00.000Z-stehen_or_steh'n?"></span>From the lyrics: </p> <dl><dd>Und sollte mir ein Leids gescheh'n</dd> <dd>Wer wird bei der Laterne stehen</dd></dl> <p>I seem to remember this verse ending in "steh'n". <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Gerbrant-2005-09-16T20:07:00.000Z-stehen_or_steh'n?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:07, 16 September 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2005-09-16T20:07:00.000Z-stehen_or_steh'n?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2005-09-16T20:07:00.000Z-stehen_or_steh'n?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-85.177.24.116-2013-02-23T13:41:00.000Z-stehen_or_steh'n?"></span>(By `laws´ of prosody) it has to be <b>steh´n</b> - I am german and for maybe 99,99% of the time we say `steh´n´ instead of `stehen´. Even if it is written...--<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/85.177.24.116" title="Special:Contributions/85.177.24.116">85.177.24.116</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:85.177.24.116&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:85.177.24.116 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-85.177.24.116-2013-02-23T13:41:00.000Z-stehen_or_steh'n?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 23 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-85.177.24.116-2013-02-23T13:41:00.000Z-stehen_or_steh'n?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-85.177.24.116-2013-02-23T13:41:00.000Z-stehen_or_steh'n?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lyrics" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lyrics-2005-12-16T10:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lyrics-2005-12-16T10:00:00.000Z"></span>Lyrics<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lyrics-2005-12-16T10:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Lyrics"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fritz_Saalfeld-2005-12-16T10:00:00.000Z-Lyrics"></span>I removed the lyrics to the song from the article because, first of all, in general <a href="/wiki/Wikisource" title="Wikisource">Wikisource</a> is probably a better place for these, and second, they were claimed to be public domain, but the author died in 1983, which is far from the required 70 year. If the lyrics are in fact public domain, some kind of source for this claim should be posted here on the talk page. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fritz_Saalfeld&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fritz Saalfeld (page does not exist)">Fritz S.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fritz_Saalfeld" title="User talk:Fritz Saalfeld">Talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Fritz_Saalfeld-2005-12-16T10:00:00.000Z-Lyrics" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fritz_Saalfeld-2005-12-16T10:00:00.000Z-Lyrics"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fritz_Saalfeld-2005-12-16T10:00:00.000Z-Lyrics"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lupo-2006-05-01T11:16:00.000Z-Fritz_Saalfeld-2005-12-16T10:00:00.000Z"></span>The song (I don't know whether just the text or the music, or both) are copyrighted. The rights holder is Schott Music International. They even registered a "Notice of Intent to Enforce (NIE)" their copyright with the U.S. Copyright Office <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.copyright.gov/fedreg/1996/61fr68453.html">[1]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Lupo" title="User:Lupo">Lupo</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Lupo-2006-05-01T11:16:00.000Z-Fritz_Saalfeld-2005-12-16T10:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lupo-2006-05-01T11:16:00.000Z-Fritz_Saalfeld-2005-12-16T10:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lupo-2006-05-01T11:16:00.000Z-Fritz_Saalfeld-2005-12-16T10:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Title_of_the_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Title_of_the_article-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Title_of_the_article-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z"></span>Title of the article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Title_of_the_article-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Title of the article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z-Title_of_the_article"></span>Shouldn't the article be named 'Lili Marlene' instead of 'Lili Marleen'? The article itself says the song became popular as 'Lili Marlene'. </p> <dl><dd>No. "Marlene" is a typical vestige of the naughty embarrasing typo fairy. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Gerbrant-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z-Title_of_the_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:03, 20 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z-Title_of_the_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z-Title_of_the_article"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chaleur-2006-08-21T22:09:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z"></span>I'm pretty sure that poster was correct. The original version was Lili Marlene. In fact, it's not even pronounced as a hard 'e'. At least not by Dietrich. Anyway, I was just at a reunion of WWII vets and they all knew it as 'Lili Marlene' <a href="/wiki/User:Chaleur" title="User:Chaleur">Chaleur</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Chaleur-2006-08-21T22:09:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 21 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chaleur-2006-08-21T22:09:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chaleur-2006-08-21T22:09:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-140.147.236.194-2008-10-23T14:14:00.000Z-Chaleur-2006-08-21T22:09:00.000Z"></span>In German, "Marleen" would be pronounced "mar-layn," not with the long e that the spelling would imply in English. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/140.147.236.194" title="Special:Contributions/140.147.236.194">140.147.236.194</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:140.147.236.194" title="User talk:140.147.236.194">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-140.147.236.194-2008-10-23T14:14:00.000Z-Chaleur-2006-08-21T22:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)</a>Stephen Kosciesza<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-140.147.236.194-2008-10-23T14:14:00.000Z-Chaleur-2006-08-21T22:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-140.147.236.194-2008-10-23T14:14:00.000Z-Chaleur-2006-08-21T22:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerbrant-2006-08-26T00:10:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Wasserturm_Langeoog.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Wasserturm_Langeoog.jpg/220px-Wasserturm_Langeoog.jpg" decoding="async" width="220" height="358" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Wasserturm_Langeoog.jpg/330px-Wasserturm_Langeoog.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Wasserturm_Langeoog.jpg/440px-Wasserturm_Langeoog.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1798" data-file-height="2922"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Then have a look at this photo. The title of the song is Lili Marleen. And check German pronunciation while your at it. (Marlene would be pronounced "Mahrlaynuh".) That the WII vets say otherwise doesn't mean a thing. They probably all picked up the mis-spelling from the same source anyway. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerbrant" title="User:Gerbrant">Shinobu</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Gerbrant-2006-08-26T00:10:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:10, 26 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerbrant-2006-08-26T00:10:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerbrant-2006-08-26T00:10:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-05-20T02:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Angr-2006-09-25T12:23:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-08-26T00:10:00.000Z"></span>The spelling <i>Marleen</i> is correct, as shown in <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Manuskript_Lili_Marlen.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Manuskript Lili Marlen.jpg (page does not exist)">Image:Manuskript Lili Marlen.jpg</a>, written in Hans Leip's own handwriting. (The name of this particular image has the word spelled wrong, and the image will probably soon be deleted from Commons as a copyvio.) If "Lili Marlene" is widespread, it's probably because of association with <a href="/wiki/Marlene_Dietrich" title="Marlene Dietrich">Marlene Dietrich</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Angr" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Angr">Angr</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Angr-2006-09-25T12:23:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-08-26T00:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Angr-2006-09-25T12:23:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-08-26T00:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Angr-2006-09-25T12:23:00.000Z-Gerbrant-2006-08-26T00:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-219.90.185.19-2007-06-26T08:22:00.000Z-Title_of_the_article"></span>The song is known worldwide and universally as "Lili Marlene" titling it differently is the height of pedantic b.s. <a href="/wiki/User:Awotter" title="User:Awotter">Awotter</a> </p><p>Is it really too pedantic to get right what most people get wrong? It seems to me that the only alternative to such pedantry is unreliability (and Wikipedia has plenty of that already). <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:219.90.185.19&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:219.90.185.19 (page does not exist)">219.90.185.19</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-219.90.185.19-2007-06-26T08:22:00.000Z-Title_of_the_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:22, 26 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-219.90.185.19-2007-06-26T08:22:00.000Z-Title_of_the_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-219.90.185.19-2007-06-26T08:22:00.000Z-Title_of_the_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2001:A61:21BC:6301:75C5:F5E5:ABEE:7AF8-2015-08-09T18:03:00.000Z-219.90.185.19-2007-06-26T08:22:00.000Z"></span>"worldwide" seems to exclude German, then, in any case. <i>Marlene</i> does not rhyme with <i>stehen</i>.--<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2001:A61:21BC:6301:75C5:F5E5:ABEE:7AF8" title="Special:Contributions/2001:A61:21BC:6301:75C5:F5E5:ABEE:7AF8">2001:A61:21BC:6301:75C5:F5E5:ABEE:7AF8</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2001:A61:21BC:6301:75C5:F5E5:ABEE:7AF8&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2001:A61:21BC:6301:75C5:F5E5:ABEE:7AF8 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-2001:A61:21BC:6301:75C5:F5E5:ABEE:7AF8-2015-08-09T18:03:00.000Z-219.90.185.19-2007-06-26T08:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 9 August 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2001:A61:21BC:6301:75C5:F5E5:ABEE:7AF8-2015-08-09T18:03:00.000Z-219.90.185.19-2007-06-26T08:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2001:A61:21BC:6301:75C5:F5E5:ABEE:7AF8-2015-08-09T18:03:00.000Z-219.90.185.19-2007-06-26T08:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Degrees_of_melodicity?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Degrees_of_melodicity?-2008-02-24T04:28:00.000Z"><span id="Degrees_of_melodicity.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Degrees_of_melodicity?-2008-02-24T04:28:00.000Z"></span>Degrees of melodicity?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Degrees_of_melodicity?-2008-02-24T04:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Degrees of melodicity?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AxelHarvey-2008-02-24T04:28:00.000Z-Degrees_of_melodicity?"></span>"Another very melodic version was recorded in the 1960's by country music legend Hank Snow." What on Earth is meant by "very melodic"? <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:AxelHarvey" title="User:AxelHarvey">AxelHarvey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AxelHarvey" title="User talk:AxelHarvey">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AxelHarvey" title="Special:Contributions/AxelHarvey">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-AxelHarvey-2008-02-24T04:28:00.000Z-Degrees_of_melodicity?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AxelHarvey-2008-02-24T04:28:00.000Z-Degrees_of_melodicity?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AxelHarvey-2008-02-24T04:28:00.000Z-Degrees_of_melodicity?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ondewelle-2011-04-15T10:31:00.000Z-AxelHarvey-2008-02-24T04:28:00.000Z"></span>Agree: "very melodic" is essentially meaningless as used here; have removed it. <a href="/wiki/User:Ondewelle" title="User:Ondewelle">Ondewelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ondewelle" title="User talk:Ondewelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Ondewelle-2011-04-15T10:31:00.000Z-AxelHarvey-2008-02-24T04:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:31, 15 April 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ondewelle-2011-04-15T10:31:00.000Z-AxelHarvey-2008-02-24T04:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ondewelle-2011-04-15T10:31:00.000Z-AxelHarvey-2008-02-24T04:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Leonard_Cohen_Song" data-mw-thread-id="h-Leonard_Cohen_Song-2008-05-02T15:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Leonard_Cohen_Song-2008-05-02T15:23:00.000Z"></span>Leonard Cohen Song<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Leonard_Cohen_Song-2008-05-02T15:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Leonard Cohen Song"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Halfabeet-2008-05-02T15:23:00.000Z-Leonard_Cohen_Song"></span>Is this the Lili Marlene as referenced in the Leonard Cohen song, <a href="/wiki/Famous_blue_raincoat" class="mw-redirect" title="Famous blue raincoat">famous blue raincoat</a> ? </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Halfabeet" title="User:Halfabeet">Halfabeet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Halfabeet" title="User talk:Halfabeet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Halfabeet-2008-05-02T15:23:00.000Z-Leonard_Cohen_Song" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Halfabeet-2008-05-02T15:23:00.000Z-Leonard_Cohen_Song"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Halfabeet-2008-05-02T15:23:00.000Z-Leonard_Cohen_Song"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Video_with_this_music" data-mw-thread-id="h-Video_with_this_music-2008-08-18T01:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Video_with_this_music-2008-08-18T01:47:00.000Z"></span>Video with this music<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Video_with_this_music-2008-08-18T01:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Video with this music"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Agre22-2008-08-18T01:47:00.000Z-Video_with_this_music"></span>This site [<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjlt0GgVZtI">[2]</a>] has this music, singed by <a href="/wiki/Marlene_Dietrich" title="Marlene Dietrich">Marlene Dietrich</a>. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Agre22&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Agre22 (page does not exist)">Agre22</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Agre22" title="User talk:Agre22">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Agre22" title="Special:Contributions/Agre22">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Agre22-2008-08-18T01:47:00.000Z-Video_with_this_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Agre22-2008-08-18T01:47:00.000Z-Video_with_this_music"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Agre22-2008-08-18T01:47:00.000Z-Video_with_this_music"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Older_lyrics?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Older_lyrics?-2008-09-29T04:04:00.000Z"><span id="Older_lyrics.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Older_lyrics?-2008-09-29T04:04:00.000Z"></span>Older lyrics?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Older_lyrics?-2008-09-29T04:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Older lyrics?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Intelligent_Mr_Toad-2008-09-29T04:04:00.000Z-Older_lyrics?"></span>This website <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.jazzprofessional.com/report/Norbert%20Schultze.htm">http://www.jazzprofessional.com/report/Norbert%20Schultze.htm</a> marking Norbert Schultze's death publishes what it says are older lyrics, in which it was an antiwar song. Does anyone know about this? If it is true this ought to be mentioned. <a href="/wiki/User:Intelligent_Mr_Toad" title="User:Intelligent Mr Toad">Intelligent Mr Toad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Intelligent_Mr_Toad" title="User talk:Intelligent Mr Toad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Intelligent_Mr_Toad-2008-09-29T04:04:00.000Z-Older_lyrics?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Intelligent_Mr_Toad-2008-09-29T04:04:00.000Z-Older_lyrics?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Intelligent_Mr_Toad-2008-09-29T04:04:00.000Z-Older_lyrics?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-D_A_Patriarche-20221019081200-Intelligent_Mr_Toad-2008-09-29T04:04:00.000Z"></span>There are internal cues in the <i>jazzprofessional</i> site text that lead me to suspect this is a 1960s version, when antiwar protest songs were much in vogue. For example, "Verweht im Wüstensand" & "Am ölverseuchten Strand", "Gone for ever in the desert sand" & "On the oil-soaked beach" have a decided WW2 flavour, while the next 2 lines, "Say, how much suffering must still happen, Until we see the madness, the insanity?" echoes other 1960s antiwar protest songs.like "Where have All the Flowers Gone". Leip's original 1915 version is said to have been just [the first] three verses; he himself published the poem with two extra verses in 1937 in his volume of poetry "Die kleine Hafenorgel", according to the site <i>SecondHandSongs</i>, whilst <i>lyrics.com</i> attributes the 1937 version sung by Marlene Dietrich <i>et al</i> to Mack David, Hans Leip & Norbert Schulze. We may have to wait until Warner-Chappell/Stott lift their copyright to get at the full truth! OTOH, I can't help thinking that Wikipedia could claim fair use in presenting at least redacted versions of the original lyrics as part of a discussion of the song's origin. Food for later historical research.... <a href="/wiki/User:D_A_Patriarche" title="User:D A Patriarche">D Anthony Patriarche</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:D_A_Patriarche" title="User talk:D A Patriarche">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-D_A_Patriarche-20221019081200-Intelligent_Mr_Toad-2008-09-29T04:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:12, 19 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-D_A_Patriarche-20221019081200-Intelligent_Mr_Toad-2008-09-29T04:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-D_A_Patriarche-20221019081200-Intelligent_Mr_Toad-2008-09-29T04:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lili_Marleen" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lili_Marleen-2009-05-15T11:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lili_Marleen-2009-05-15T11:46:00.000Z"></span>Lili Marleen<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lili_Marleen-2009-05-15T11:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Lili Marleen"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-78.162.140.35-2009-05-15T11:46:00.000Z-Lili_Marleen"></span>why noone didn't write down what does Lili Marleen mean? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/78.162.140.35" title="Special:Contributions/78.162.140.35">78.162.140.35</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:78.162.140.35&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:78.162.140.35 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) 11:46, 15 May 2009 (UTC)</span> Quote from the article: "Leip reportedly combined the names of his girlfriend and another female friend" <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Srelu&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Srelu (page does not exist)">Srelu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Srelu" title="User talk:Srelu">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Srelu" title="Special:Contributions/Srelu">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-78.162.140.35-2009-05-15T11:46:00.000Z-Lili_Marleen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:24, 30 April 2011 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-78.162.140.35-2009-05-15T11:46:00.000Z-Lili_Marleen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-78.162.140.35-2009-05-15T11:46:00.000Z-Lili_Marleen"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Public_Domain" data-mw-thread-id="h-Public_Domain-2009-05-21T13:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Public_Domain-2009-05-21T13:56:00.000Z"></span>Public Domain<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Public_Domain-2009-05-21T13:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Public Domain"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-93.103.63.216-2009-05-21T13:56:00.000Z-Public_Domain"></span>It's in public domain now, let's put a link to or player of it somewhere. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.archive.org/details/LaleAnderson-91-100">http://www.archive.org/details/LaleAnderson-91-100</a> <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/93.103.63.216" title="Special:Contributions/93.103.63.216">93.103.63.216</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:93.103.63.216" title="User talk:93.103.63.216">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-93.103.63.216-2009-05-21T13:56:00.000Z-Public_Domain" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 21 May 2009 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-93.103.63.216-2009-05-21T13:56:00.000Z-Public_Domain"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-93.103.63.216-2009-05-21T13:56:00.000Z-Public_Domain"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mongoosander-2013-02-09T02:21:00.000Z-93.103.63.216-2009-05-21T13:56:00.000Z"></span>The PPL (UK music royalties agency) seem to think a 1940 version (ISRC number DEF060001090) is NOT in the public domain. As of 2012, their database says EMI own the rights to DEF060001090. The link is here :<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://repsearch.ppluk.com/ARSWeb/appmanager/ARS/main?cont=A#">PPLuk.com</a>.Just search for Lale Andersen. Obviously, if your copy is not marked DEF060001090 you're OK... <a href="/wiki/User:Mongoosander" title="User:Mongoosander">Mongoosander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mongoosander" title="User talk:Mongoosander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Mongoosander-2013-02-09T02:21:00.000Z-93.103.63.216-2009-05-21T13:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:21, 9 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mongoosander-2013-02-09T02:21:00.000Z-93.103.63.216-2009-05-21T13:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mongoosander-2013-02-09T02:21:00.000Z-93.103.63.216-2009-05-21T13:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Spanish_and_Italian_versions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Spanish_and_Italian_versions-2010-04-28T19:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Spanish_and_Italian_versions-2010-04-28T19:20:00.000Z"></span>Spanish and Italian versions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Spanish_and_Italian_versions-2010-04-28T19:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Spanish and Italian versions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lothar_von_Richthofen-2010-04-28T19:20:00.000Z-Spanish_and_Italian_versions"></span>Does anybody have the lyrics to the Spanish and Italian versions of this song? I think that they should be added to show in what other countries this song became popular. <a href="/wiki/User:Lothar_von_Richthofen" title="User:Lothar von Richthofen">Lothar von Richthofen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lothar_von_Richthofen" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Lothar von Richthofen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Lothar_von_Richthofen-2010-04-28T19:20:00.000Z-Spanish_and_Italian_versions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 28 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lothar_von_Richthofen-2010-04-28T19:20:00.000Z-Spanish_and_Italian_versions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lothar_von_Richthofen-2010-04-28T19:20:00.000Z-Spanish_and_Italian_versions"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Marleen_or_Marlene_is_a_misspelling,_whatever_the_other_people_are_writing_here" data-mw-thread-id="h-Marleen_or_Marlene_is_a_misspelling,_whatever_the_other_people_are_writing_here"><span id="Marleen_or_Marlene_is_a_misspelling.2C_whatever_the_other_people_are_writing_here"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Marleen_or_Marlene_is_a_misspelling,_whatever_the_other_people_are_writing_here"></span>Marleen or Marlene is a misspelling, whatever the other people are writing here<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Marleen_or_Marlene_is_a_misspelling,_whatever_the_other_people_are_writing_here"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Marleen or Marlene is a misspelling, whatever the other people are writing here"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>The real title is the one given by the composer of the song. In the article you have the picture of the original disk, please DO READ what's written on it. Despite what everybody is thinking, the real name is MARLEN. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dietrich_version_as_propaganda?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dietrich_version_as_propaganda?-2011-06-22T19:30:00.000Z"><span id="Dietrich_version_as_propaganda.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dietrich_version_as_propaganda?-2011-06-22T19:30:00.000Z"></span>Dietrich version as propaganda?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dietrich_version_as_propaganda?-2011-06-22T19:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Dietrich version as propaganda?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Davoloid-2011-06-22T19:30:00.000Z-Dietrich_version_as_propaganda?"></span>Came here by accident, but it would seem (according to the CIA) that they had a bit of involvement in the subversive usage of the song: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2008-featured-story-archive/marlene-dietrich.html">https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2008-featured-story-archive/marlene-dietrich.html</a> "A Look Back...Marlene Dietrich: Singing for a Cause." Must be a CIA thing as the link can only be copied and pasted. </p><p>This would explain why Goebbels tried to ban the song, something which is conspicuous in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Davoloid" title="User:Davoloid">Davoloid</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davoloid" title="User talk:Davoloid">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-Davoloid-2011-06-22T19:30:00.000Z-Dietrich_version_as_propaganda?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 22 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Davoloid-2011-06-22T19:30:00.000Z-Dietrich_version_as_propaganda?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Davoloid-2011-06-22T19:30:00.000Z-Dietrich_version_as_propaganda?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lale_Anderson" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lale_Anderson-2011-10-19T10:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lale_Anderson-2011-10-19T10:02:00.000Z"></span>Lale Anderson<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lale_Anderson-2011-10-19T10:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Lale Anderson"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AT_Kunene-2011-10-19T10:02:00.000Z-Lale_Anderson"></span>Does anybody know what eventually happened to Lale Anderson especially after her song became famous?<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:AT_Kunene&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:AT Kunene (page does not exist)">AT Kunene</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AT_Kunene" title="User talk:AT Kunene">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lili_Marleen#c-AT_Kunene-2011-10-19T10:02:00.000Z-Lale_Anderson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AT_Kunene-2011-10-19T10:02:00.000Z-Lale_Anderson"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AT_Kunene-2011-10-19T10:02:00.000Z-Lale_Anderson"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Steinbeck_-_Once_There_Was_a_War" data-mw-thread-id="h-Steinbeck_-_Once_There_Was_a_War-2016-10-11T07:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Steinbeck_-_Once_There_Was_a_War-2016-10-11T07:46:00.000Z"></span>Steinbeck - Once There Was a War<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Steinbeck_-_Once_There_Was_a_War-2016-10-11T07:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Steinbeck - Once There Was a War"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-121.44.145.247-2016-10-11T07:46:00.000Z-Steinbeck_-_Once_There_Was_a_War"></span>John Steinbeck's collection of his war journalism includes a piece on this song which is strangely at variance with much that is written here. Perhaps he didn't know the complete story; his article may have been merely propaganda. 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about song<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Telegraph_article_about_song-2017-12-31T22:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lili_Marleen&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Telegraph article about song"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JRPG-2017-12-31T22:41:00.000Z-Telegraph_article_about_song"></span>Haven't time to do it atm but <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/3561946/The-story-behind-the-song-Lili-Marlene.html">this</a> could provide a few citations <a href="/wiki/User:JRPG" title="User:JRPG">JRPG</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JRPG" title="User talk:JRPG">talk</a>) <a 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