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overweight, best-selling author Johann Hari lost 20 kilos on Ozempic, but he says it’s much more than a weight-loss drug.</p></div><div class="_562c84b42f77cf37d420"><figure class="a4385b33fe53e96b825e _6f6db0aa612a03c039e8" data-pb-type="im"><picture><source media="(min-width: 1180px)" width="620" height="620" srcSet="https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_0.087%2C$multiply_4%2C$ratio_1%2C$width_378%2C$x_0%2C$y_44/t_crop_custom/c_scale%2Cw_620%2Cq_88%2Cf_auto/440c29ed8fa1f4ac34814d3e091ba1793001dcf3, https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_0.087%2C$multiply_4%2C$ratio_1%2C$width_378%2C$x_0%2C$y_44/t_crop_custom/c_scale%2Cw_1240%2Cq_52%2Cf_auto/440c29ed8fa1f4ac34814d3e091ba1793001dcf3 2x" data-pb-im-config="{"aspectRatio":1,"type":"square1x1","width":620,"urls":["https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_0.087%2C$multiply_4%2C$ratio_1%2C$width_378%2C$x_0%2C$y_44/t_crop_custom/c_scale%2Cw_620%2Cq_88%2Cf_auto/440c29ed8fa1f4ac34814d3e091ba1793001dcf3"," 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This isn’t part of the plan. But as you already know if you’ve read one of the British author’s three bestsellers – “self-help” for the addicted, depressed and distracted – Hari can suggest an expert for every problem.</p><p>“When I’m doing my job well, I think of myself as a concierge,” he says, sitting in the corner of Sydney’s original brunch spot, Bills, in Darlinghurst. “For me, always the happiest moment with any of my books … is when one of the experts I’ve written about, emails me and says, ‘oh people have read your book and are emailing me’. Because I’m like, ‘ah, I connected you with the people who need you’. 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This isn’t part of the plan. But as you already know if you’ve read one of the British author’s three bestsellers – “self-help” for the addicted, depressed and distracted – Hari can suggest an expert for every problem.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“When I’m doing my job well, I think of myself as a concierge,” he says, sitting in the corner of Sydney’s original brunch spot, Bills, in Darlinghurst. “For me, always the happiest moment with any of my books … is when one of the experts I’ve written about, emails me and says, ‘oh people have read your book and are emailing me’. Because I’m like, ‘ah, I connected you with the people who need you’. My job is to find those people.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E(Hari’s advice for me, in case you’re wondering, is to talk to his good friend Eleanor, who facing a remarkably similar mid-career fork, left her job, built a start-up and wrote a bestseller. 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There’s a diner up the road from where I live, and I used to go in every morning and I would have a massive chicken sandwich with loads of mayo, and I’ll never forget, the second day I was on Ozempic, I went in, and I had like three mouthfuls and just couldn’t eat any more … it’s the weirdest f--king thing.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EAt Bills, which is so noisy he’s quickly offering to record the interview with a better microphone, he orders the full Aussie, eggs, bacon, sausages, and a long black. I’m having toast.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“So if you’re going to eat something now,” he says, launching into how the drugs work, “after a little while, your pancreas will produce a hormone called GLP-1″, which is your body’s way of saying ‘you’ve had enough, stop eating’.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“What these drugs do is they inject you with an artificial copy of GLP-1 that instead of sticking around for a few minutes, stays around in your system for a whole week.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIt’s not like being on a diet where you’re hungry all the time. It’s like being on a diet where you’re full all the time.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Ch2\u003E‘I’m not overweight. It’s wild’\u003C\u002Fh2\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHari started taking Ozempic after COVID-19 when he discovered that all of his friends didn’t get thin just doing pilates in lockdown. He was 44, the age his grandfather died of a heart attack, and weighed 92 kilograms.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“Almost my entire adult life I’ve been overweight or obese. Now I do a tiny little scratch [injection] in my leg once a week, I’m not overweight. 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So I will reference Oprah several times because don’t tell me you wouldn’t do the same,” he laughs.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EAfter six months on the drug, he’d lost a lot of weight but didn’t feel better. “I felt physically better, but emotionally, no, I actually felt worse. I don’t want to overstate it. I wasn’t depressed or anything, but I felt quite flat.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cx-placeholder id=\"e76d5e8b8ac1779146a21d4f6168fea5bf1d302c\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fx-placeholder\u003E\u003Cp\u003EWhat he realised, after an epiphany in a KFC in Las Vegas, where he now lives, was that the drugs interrupt eating patterns, and bring to the surface the underlying reasons why you overeat.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“That can be a good thing. There are better ways to deal with my distress than Colonel Sanders, but that can be a difficult process.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Ch2\u003E‘These drugs are not weight loss drugs’\u003C\u002Fh2\u003E\u003Cp\u003EScientists disagree on whether the drugs can cause depression but agree they have a powerful effect on the brain.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“One of the things that was really disconcerting is interviewing the leading neuroscientists, and they all said, it’s increasingly clear these drugs obviously do have a gut effect, but they’re primarily working on your brain.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EInterestingly, many people who take the drugs also say they’ve lost the urge to drink, smoke or do other compulsive behaviours.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“This is very optimistic, but it’s not an implausible theory that actually, these drugs are not weight loss drugs, they’re drugs that boost self-control and self-restraint across the board.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EFor an author whose books all explore the limits of self-control, this is the holy grail. 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