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These are quite possibly the biggest problem you're gonna have because people are so much more variable than anything else. So I've divided people problems into two. The first people-related problem is stakeholders. Now these may be customers, suppliers. It might be your boss. A big problem with projects is that often the different stakeholders have different ideas about what success looks like. They have different objectives that they want from the project. So how do we handle that? The best way to deal with that is to have a kick-off meeting at the start. Now it's a known procedure in project planning to have a kick-off meeting where you get everyone together and you all discuss the project. I'd like to suggest a slight refinement on that, which is actually to have two kick-off meetings. So first of all you have a kick-off meeting with everybody to talk about what they want from the project. But at that point, you have to be very careful not to promise anything. You just find out what they want and you say to them, okay great, I'm gonna go away and do some planning now. Let's meet again in a week and I'll tell you whether I can do it. You then get together a week or two later. The second meeting, the purpose of this is for them to sign off your plan and agree it. If you've done the planning and it's possible to do what they want, that's great, you can just turn up and say yes, I can do it. Everybody signs it. But quite often what happens is that you go away, you do your planning and you discover that they can't have everything that they want. They're gonna have to either reduce the scope or the quality slightly of what they're gonna have, or they're gonna pay more in order to get everything that they want. So at this second meeting, you're saying to them guys, you're gonna have to choose which of these you want to do. Maybe some of them will want one, some will want the other. You have to just sit back and let them fight them fight it out because it's up to them to decide what they want. It's not up to you. So that's the purpose of the second meeting. Now it's very important at this second meeting that you're assertive. Don't say, yes I think I can deliver that, or maybe I can deliver that, I'll see what I can do. 'Cause if you say that, people hear the word yes, and then if you fail later, it's your fault. So what you should do at this meeting is you should absolutely be strong and say, no I've done a plan and you can see that it's not possible to do it in the time. So a key point really here is that assertiveness comes from planning. Planning makes you stronger. If you've got a Gantt chart you can show them, you can say here's a plan that I've made, and as you can see from the time scale, it's gonna take longer. So do you want to wait longer, do you want to pay more, or do you want to reduce the quality? So be really strong. Planning makes you stronger. Then at the end of this second kick-off meeting, we get it in the writing. The best way probably to get it in writing is to email them afterwards so they don't sign a document there and then. But what happens is we all agree it, and after the meeting you email saying just to confirm in order to get it into the time scale, we're gonna miss a couple of features out. Or maybe just to confirm in order to deliver all the features, we're gonna take an extra month. The most important thing is to get it written down because if you don't, there is a risk that a year later it will come back to bite you, they'll have forgotten the meeting and they'll be saying, well, you know, why haven't you delivered this? So get it in writing. What I'd like you to do is just think about the project that you're working on at the moment, and think were you assertive enough at the meeting? Did you even have a meeting? 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These are quite possibly the biggest problem you're gonna have because people are so much more variable than anything else. So I've divided people problems into two. The first people-related problem is stakeholders. Now these may be customers, suppliers. It might be your boss. A big problem with projects is that often the different stakeholders have different ideas about what success looks like. They have different objectives that they want from the project. So how do we handle that? The best way to deal with that is to have a kick-off meeting at the start. Now it's a known procedure in project planning to have a kick-off meeting where you get everyone together and you all discuss the project. I'd like to suggest a slight refinement on that, which is actually to have two kick-off meetings. So first of all you have a kick-off meeting with everybody to talk about what they want from the project. But at that point, you have to be very careful not to promise anything. You just find out what they want and you say to them, okay great, I'm gonna go away and do some planning now. Let's meet again in a week and I'll tell you whether I can do it. You then get together a week or two later. The second meeting, the purpose of this is for them to sign off your plan and agree it. If you've done the planning and it's possible to do what they want, that's great, you can just turn up and say yes, I can do it. Everybody signs it. But quite often what happens is that you go away, you do your planning and you discover that they can't have everything that they want. They're gonna have to either reduce the scope or the quality slightly of what they're gonna have, or they're gonna pay more in order to get everything that they want. So at this second meeting, you're saying to them guys, you're gonna have to choose which of these you want to do. Maybe some of them will want one, some will want the other. You have to just sit back and let them fight them fight it out because it's up to them to decide what they want. It's not up to you. So that's the purpose of the second meeting. Now it's very important at this second meeting that you're assertive. Don't say, yes I think I can deliver that, or maybe I can deliver that, I'll see what I can do. 'Cause if you say that, people hear the word yes, and then if you fail later, it's your fault. So what you should do at this meeting is you should absolutely be strong and say, no I've done a plan and you can see that it's not possible to do it in the time. So a key point really here is that assertiveness comes from planning. Planning makes you stronger. If you've got a Gantt chart you can show them, you can say here's a plan that I've made, and as you can see from the time scale, it's gonna take longer. So do you want to wait longer, do you want to pay more, or do you want to reduce the quality? So be really strong. Planning makes you stronger. Then at the end of this second kick-off meeting, we get it in the writing. The best way probably to get it in writing is to email them afterwards so they don't sign a document there and then. But what happens is we all agree it, and after the meeting you email saying just to confirm in order to get it into the time scale, we're gonna miss a couple of features out. Or maybe just to confirm in order to deliver all the features, we're gonna take an extra month. The most important thing is to get it written down because if you don't, there is a risk that a year later it will come back to bite you, they'll have forgotten the meeting and they'll be saying, well, you know, why haven't you delivered this? So get it in writing. What I'd like you to do is just think about the project that you're working on at the moment, and think were you assertive enough at the meeting? Did you even have a meeting? 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Avoiding People Problems <icon class="show-more-less__button--chevron show-more-less-button-icon" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/cyolgscd0imw2ldqppkrb84vo"></icon> </button> <button class="show-more-less__button show-more-less__less-button show-more-less-button " aria-expanded="true" data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_toc-section_show_more"> 1. Avoiding People Problems <icon class="show-more-less__button--chevron show-more-less-button-icon" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/4chtt12k98xwnba1nimld2oyg"></icon> </button> <ul data-max-num-to-show="0" class="show-more-less__list " data-impression-id="learning-course_toc-section_show-more-less"> <li class="toc-item toc-item--active"> <a data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_tocItem" data-tracking-will-navigate href="https://www.linkedin.com/learning/project-management-solving-common-project-problems/managing-stakeholders-who-have-conflicting-requirements?autoplay=true&amp;trk=learning-course_tocItem" class="toc-item__link" aria-current="true"> <icon class="table-of-contents__item-status table-of-contents__item-status--unlocked" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/5jwhkytplzxiejvhzfu0t7m8l" data-svg-class-name="table-of-contents__item-status-svg--unlocked"></icon> <div class="table-of-contents__item-details"> <div class="table-of-contents__item-title"> Managing stakeholders who have conflicting requirements </div> <div class="table-of-contents__item-duration"> 3m 30s </div> </div> </a> </li> <li class="toc-item"> <a data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_tocItem" data-tracking-will-navigate href="https://www.linkedin.com/learning/project-management-solving-common-project-problems/engaging-team-members-throughout-the-process?autoplay=true&amp;trk=learning-course_tocItem" class="toc-item__link" aria-current="false"> <span class="a11y-text">(Locked)</span> <icon class="table-of-contents__item-status table-of-contents__item-status--locked" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/cfu0devb5o77ym5x8vv0oilfz" data-svg-class-name="table-of-contents__item-status-svg--locked"></icon> <div class="table-of-contents__item-details"> <div class="table-of-contents__item-title"> Engaging team members throughout the process </div> <div class="table-of-contents__item-duration"> 2m 48s </div> </div> </a> </li> <li class="toc-item"> <a data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_tocItem" data-tracking-will-navigate href="https://www.linkedin.com/learning/project-management-solving-common-project-problems/communication?autoplay=true&amp;trk=learning-course_tocItem" class="toc-item__link" aria-current="false"> <span class="a11y-text">(Locked)</span> <icon class="table-of-contents__item-status table-of-contents__item-status--locked" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/cfu0devb5o77ym5x8vv0oilfz" data-svg-class-name="table-of-contents__item-status-svg--locked"></icon> <div class="table-of-contents__item-details"> <div class="table-of-contents__item-title"> Communication </div> <div class="table-of-contents__item-duration"> 3m 30s </div> </div> </a> </li> </ul> <!----> </div> </li> <li class="toc-section"> <div class="show-more-less"> <button class="show-more-less__button show-more-less__more-button show-more-less-button " aria-expanded="false" data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_toc-section_show_more"> 2. Avoiding Quality Problems <icon class="show-more-less__button--chevron show-more-less-button-icon" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/cyolgscd0imw2ldqppkrb84vo"></icon> </button> <button class="show-more-less__button show-more-less__less-button show-more-less-button show-more-less__button--hide" aria-expanded="false" data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_toc-section_show_more"> 2. Avoiding Quality Problems <icon class="show-more-less__button--chevron show-more-less-button-icon" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/4chtt12k98xwnba1nimld2oyg"></icon> </button> <ul data-max-num-to-show="0" class="show-more-less__list show-more-less__list--hide-after-0" data-impression-id="learning-course_toc-section_show-more-less"> <li class="toc-item"> <a data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_tocItem" data-tracking-will-navigate href="https://www.linkedin.com/learning/project-management-solving-common-project-problems/ensuring-customer-expectations-are-met?autoplay=true&amp;trk=learning-course_tocItem" class="toc-item__link" aria-current="false"> <span class="a11y-text">(Locked)</span> <icon class="table-of-contents__item-status table-of-contents__item-status--locked" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/cfu0devb5o77ym5x8vv0oilfz" data-svg-class-name="table-of-contents__item-status-svg--locked"></icon> <div class="table-of-contents__item-details"> <div class="table-of-contents__item-title"> Ensuring customer expectations are met </div> <div class="table-of-contents__item-duration"> 3m 39s </div> </div> </a> </li> <li class="toc-item"> <a data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_tocItem" data-tracking-will-navigate href="https://www.linkedin.com/learning/project-management-solving-common-project-problems/defining-quality?autoplay=true&amp;trk=learning-course_tocItem" class="toc-item__link" aria-current="false"> <span class="a11y-text">(Locked)</span> <icon class="table-of-contents__item-status table-of-contents__item-status--locked" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/cfu0devb5o77ym5x8vv0oilfz" data-svg-class-name="table-of-contents__item-status-svg--locked"></icon> <div class="table-of-contents__item-details"> <div class="table-of-contents__item-title"> Defining quality </div> <div class="table-of-contents__item-duration"> 2m 44s </div> </div> </a> </li> </ul> <!----> </div> </li> <li class="toc-section"> <div class="show-more-less"> <button class="show-more-less__button show-more-less__more-button show-more-less-button " aria-expanded="false" data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_toc-section_show_more"> 3. Avoiding Cost Problems <icon class="show-more-less__button--chevron show-more-less-button-icon" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/cyolgscd0imw2ldqppkrb84vo"></icon> </button> <button class="show-more-less__button show-more-less__less-button show-more-less-button show-more-less__button--hide" aria-expanded="false" data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_toc-section_show_more"> 3. Avoiding Cost Problems <icon class="show-more-less__button--chevron show-more-less-button-icon" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/4chtt12k98xwnba1nimld2oyg"></icon> </button> <ul data-max-num-to-show="0" class="show-more-less__list show-more-less__list--hide-after-0" data-impression-id="learning-course_toc-section_show-more-less"> <li class="toc-item"> <a data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_tocItem" data-tracking-will-navigate href="https://www.linkedin.com/learning/project-management-solving-common-project-problems/making-sure-that-nothing-gets-forgotten?autoplay=true&amp;trk=learning-course_tocItem" class="toc-item__link" aria-current="false"> <span class="a11y-text">(Locked)</span> <icon class="table-of-contents__item-status table-of-contents__item-status--locked" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/cfu0devb5o77ym5x8vv0oilfz" data-svg-class-name="table-of-contents__item-status-svg--locked"></icon> <div class="table-of-contents__item-details"> <div class="table-of-contents__item-title"> Making sure that nothing gets forgotten </div> <div class="table-of-contents__item-duration"> 4m 5s </div> </div> </a> </li> <li class="toc-item"> <a data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_tocItem" data-tracking-will-navigate href="https://www.linkedin.com/learning/project-management-solving-common-project-problems/generating-realistic-estimates?autoplay=true&amp;trk=learning-course_tocItem" class="toc-item__link" aria-current="false"> <span class="a11y-text">(Locked)</span> <icon class="table-of-contents__item-status table-of-contents__item-status--locked" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/cfu0devb5o77ym5x8vv0oilfz" data-svg-class-name="table-of-contents__item-status-svg--locked"></icon> <div class="table-of-contents__item-details"> <div class="table-of-contents__item-title"> Generating realistic estimates </div> <div class="table-of-contents__item-duration"> 4m 23s </div> </div> </a> </li> <li class="toc-item"> <a data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_tocItem" data-tracking-will-navigate href="https://www.linkedin.com/learning/project-management-solving-common-project-problems/controlling-scope-creep?autoplay=true&amp;trk=learning-course_tocItem" class="toc-item__link" aria-current="false"> <span class="a11y-text">(Locked)</span> <icon class="table-of-contents__item-status table-of-contents__item-status--locked" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/cfu0devb5o77ym5x8vv0oilfz" data-svg-class-name="table-of-contents__item-status-svg--locked"></icon> <div class="table-of-contents__item-details"> <div class="table-of-contents__item-title"> Controlling scope creep </div> <div class="table-of-contents__item-duration"> 2m 49s </div> </div> </a> </li> <li class="toc-item"> <a data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_tocItem" data-tracking-will-navigate href="https://www.linkedin.com/learning/project-management-solving-common-project-problems/discovering-hidden-overspends?autoplay=true&amp;trk=learning-course_tocItem" class="toc-item__link" aria-current="false"> <span class="a11y-text">(Locked)</span> <icon class="table-of-contents__item-status table-of-contents__item-status--locked" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/cfu0devb5o77ym5x8vv0oilfz" data-svg-class-name="table-of-contents__item-status-svg--locked"></icon> <div class="table-of-contents__item-details"> <div class="table-of-contents__item-title"> Discovering hidden overspends </div> <div class="table-of-contents__item-duration"> 5m 49s </div> </div> </a> </li> </ul> <!----> </div> </li> <li class="toc-section"> <div class="show-more-less"> <button class="show-more-less__button show-more-less__more-button show-more-less-button " aria-expanded="false" data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_toc-section_show_more"> 4. 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class="table-of-contents__item-details"> <div class="table-of-contents__item-title"> Missing the real critical path </div> <div class="table-of-contents__item-duration"> 5m 49s </div> </div> </a> </li> <li class="toc-item"> <a data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_tocItem" data-tracking-will-navigate href="https://www.linkedin.com/learning/project-management-solving-common-project-problems/avoiding-and-minimizing-the-effects-of-mistakes?autoplay=true&amp;trk=learning-course_tocItem" class="toc-item__link" aria-current="false"> <icon class="table-of-contents__item-status table-of-contents__item-status--unlocked" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/5jwhkytplzxiejvhzfu0t7m8l" data-svg-class-name="table-of-contents__item-status-svg--unlocked"></icon> <div class="table-of-contents__item-details"> <div class="table-of-contents__item-title"> Avoiding and minimizing the effects of mistakes </div> <div class="table-of-contents__item-duration"> 3m 9s </div> </div> </a> </li> <li class="toc-item"> <a data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_tocItem" data-tracking-will-navigate href="https://www.linkedin.com/learning/project-management-solving-common-project-problems/losing-resources-to-other-projects?autoplay=true&amp;trk=learning-course_tocItem" class="toc-item__link" aria-current="false"> <span class="a11y-text">(Locked)</span> <icon class="table-of-contents__item-status table-of-contents__item-status--locked" data-delayed-url="https://static.licdn.com/aero-v1/sc/h/cfu0devb5o77ym5x8vv0oilfz" data-svg-class-name="table-of-contents__item-status-svg--locked"></icon> <div class="table-of-contents__item-details"> <div class="table-of-contents__item-title"> Losing resources to other projects </div> <div class="table-of-contents__item-duration"> 7m 53s </div> </div> </a> </li> <li class="toc-item"> <a data-tracking-control-name="learning-course_tocItem" data-tracking-will-navigate 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class="language-selector__item" role="presentation"> <!-- Adding aria-label to both the li and the button because screen reader focus goes to button on desktop and li on mobile--> <button aria-label="मराठी (Marathi)" class="font-sans text-xs link block py-[5px] px-2 w-full hover:cursor-pointer hover:bg-color-action hover:text-color-text-on-dark focus:bg-color-action focus:text-color-text-on-dark language-selector__link !font-regular" data-tracking-control-name="language-selector-mr_IN" data-locale="mr_IN" role="menuitem" lang="mr_IN"> मराठी (Marathi) </button> </li> <li class="language-selector__item" role="presentation"> <!-- Adding aria-label to both the li and the button because screen reader focus goes to button on desktop and li on mobile--> <button aria-label="Bahasa Malaysia (Malay)" class="font-sans text-xs link block py-[5px] px-2 w-full hover:cursor-pointer hover:bg-color-action hover:text-color-text-on-dark focus:bg-color-action focus:text-color-text-on-dark 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class="font-sans text-xs link block py-[5px] px-2 w-full hover:cursor-pointer hover:bg-color-action hover:text-color-text-on-dark focus:bg-color-action focus:text-color-text-on-dark language-selector__link !font-regular" data-tracking-control-name="language-selector-no_NO" data-locale="no_NO" role="menuitem" lang="no_NO"> Norsk (Norwegian) </button> </li> <li class="language-selector__item" role="presentation"> <!-- Adding aria-label to both the li and the button because screen reader focus goes to button on desktop and li on mobile--> <button aria-label="ਪੰਜਾਬੀ (Punjabi)" class="font-sans text-xs link block py-[5px] px-2 w-full hover:cursor-pointer hover:bg-color-action hover:text-color-text-on-dark focus:bg-color-action focus:text-color-text-on-dark language-selector__link !font-regular" data-tracking-control-name="language-selector-pa_IN" data-locale="pa_IN" role="menuitem" lang="pa_IN"> ਪੰਜਾਬੀ (Punjabi) </button> </li> <li class="language-selector__item" role="presentation"> <!-- Adding aria-label to both the li and the button because screen reader focus goes to button on desktop and li on mobile--> <button aria-label="Polski (Polish)" class="font-sans text-xs link block py-[5px] px-2 w-full hover:cursor-pointer hover:bg-color-action hover:text-color-text-on-dark focus:bg-color-action focus:text-color-text-on-dark language-selector__link !font-regular" data-tracking-control-name="language-selector-pl_PL" data-locale="pl_PL" role="menuitem" lang="pl_PL"> Polski (Polish) </button> </li> <li class="language-selector__item" role="presentation"> <!-- Adding aria-label to both the li and the button because screen reader focus goes to button on desktop and li on mobile--> <button aria-label="Português (Portuguese)" class="font-sans text-xs link block py-[5px] px-2 w-full hover:cursor-pointer hover:bg-color-action hover:text-color-text-on-dark focus:bg-color-action focus:text-color-text-on-dark language-selector__link !font-regular" data-tracking-control-name="language-selector-pt_BR" data-locale="pt_BR" role="menuitem" lang="pt_BR"> Português (Portuguese) </button> </li> <li class="language-selector__item" role="presentation"> <!-- Adding aria-label to both the li and the button because screen reader focus goes to button on desktop and li on mobile--> <button aria-label="Română (Romanian)" class="font-sans text-xs link block py-[5px] px-2 w-full hover:cursor-pointer hover:bg-color-action hover:text-color-text-on-dark focus:bg-color-action focus:text-color-text-on-dark language-selector__link !font-regular" data-tracking-control-name="language-selector-ro_RO" data-locale="ro_RO" role="menuitem" lang="ro_RO"> Română (Romanian) </button> </li> <li class="language-selector__item" role="presentation"> <!-- Adding aria-label to both the li and the button because screen reader focus goes to button on desktop and li on mobile--> <button aria-label="Русский (Russian)" class="font-sans text-xs link block py-[5px] px-2 w-full hover:cursor-pointer hover:bg-color-action hover:text-color-text-on-dark focus:bg-color-action focus:text-color-text-on-dark language-selector__link !font-regular" data-tracking-control-name="language-selector-ru_RU" data-locale="ru_RU" role="menuitem" lang="ru_RU"> Русский (Russian) </button> </li> <li class="language-selector__item" role="presentation"> <!-- Adding aria-label to both the li and the button because screen reader focus goes to button on desktop and li on mobile--> <button aria-label="Svenska (Swedish)" class="font-sans text-xs link block py-[5px] px-2 w-full hover:cursor-pointer hover:bg-color-action hover:text-color-text-on-dark focus:bg-color-action focus:text-color-text-on-dark language-selector__link !font-regular" data-tracking-control-name="language-selector-sv_SE" data-locale="sv_SE" role="menuitem" lang="sv_SE"> Svenska (Swedish) </button> </li> <li class="language-selector__item" role="presentation"> <!-- Adding aria-label to both the li and the button because screen reader focus goes to button on desktop and li on mobile--> <button aria-label="తెలుగు (Telugu)" class="font-sans text-xs link block py-[5px] px-2 w-full hover:cursor-pointer hover:bg-color-action hover:text-color-text-on-dark focus:bg-color-action focus:text-color-text-on-dark language-selector__link !font-regular" data-tracking-control-name="language-selector-te_IN" data-locale="te_IN" role="menuitem" lang="te_IN"> తెలుగు (Telugu) </button> </li> <li class="language-selector__item" role="presentation"> <!-- Adding aria-label to both the li and the button because screen reader focus goes to button on desktop and li on mobile--> <button aria-label="ภาษาไทย (Thai)" class="font-sans text-xs link block py-[5px] px-2 w-full hover:cursor-pointer hover:bg-color-action hover:text-color-text-on-dark focus:bg-color-action focus:text-color-text-on-dark language-selector__link !font-regular" data-tracking-control-name="language-selector-th_TH" data-locale="th_TH" role="menuitem" lang="th_TH"> ภาษาไทย (Thai) </button> </li> <li class="language-selector__item" role="presentation"> <!-- Adding aria-label to both the li and the button because screen reader focus goes to button on desktop and li on mobile--> <button aria-label="Tagalog (Tagalog)" class="font-sans text-xs link block py-[5px] px-2 w-full hover:cursor-pointer hover:bg-color-action hover:text-color-text-on-dark focus:bg-color-action focus:text-color-text-on-dark language-selector__link !font-regular" data-tracking-control-name="language-selector-tl_PH" data-locale="tl_PH" role="menuitem" lang="tl_PH"> Tagalog (Tagalog) </button> </li> <li class="language-selector__item" role="presentation"> <!-- Adding aria-label to both the li and the button because screen reader focus goes to button on desktop and li on mobile--> <button aria-label="Türkçe (Turkish)" class="font-sans text-xs link block py-[5px] px-2 w-full hover:cursor-pointer hover:bg-color-action hover:text-color-text-on-dark focus:bg-color-action 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