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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_California" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject California">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">California</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject California</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject California</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">California articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mudwater-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mudwater-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Snow Mountain Wilderness&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Snow Mountain Wilderness&quot;}--><h2 id="Snow_Mountain_Wilderness" data-mw-thread-id="h-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z"></span>Snow Mountain Wilderness<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: Snow Mountain Wilderness"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mudwater-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mudwater-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mudwater-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness","timestamp":"2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Mudwater-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Mudwater-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Snow Mountain Wilderness&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Snow Mountain Wilderness&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mudwater-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness"></span>I'd like to add <a href="/wiki/Snow_Mountain_Wilderness" title="Snow Mountain Wilderness">Snow Mountain Wilderness</a> to the Protected Areas of California template. What section should I put it in? It's a wilderness area that's in Mendocino National Forest and it's administered by the U.S. Forest Service. <span style="font-family:cursive;">— <a href="/wiki/User:Mudwater" title="User:Mudwater">Mudwater</a><small><sup> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mudwater" title="User talk:Mudwater">Talk</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Mudwater-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 1 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mudwater-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z","author":"Mudwater","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mudwater-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mudwater-2008-03-01T13:13:00.000Z-Snow_Mountain_Wilderness"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Marcia_Wright-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Show\/Hide_setting-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Marcia_Wright-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z-Show\/Hide_setting&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Show\/Hide setting&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Show\/Hide setting&quot;}--><h2 id="Show/Hide_setting" data-mw-thread-id="h-Show/Hide_setting-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z"><span id="Show.2FHide_setting"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Show/Hide_setting-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z"></span>Show/Hide setting<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Show/Hide_setting-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Show/Hide setting"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Marcia_Wright-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Show\/Hide_setting-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Marcia_Wright-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z-Show\/Hide_setting"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Marcia_Wright-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z-Show\/Hide_setting","timestamp":"2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Marcia_Wright-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Show\/Hide_setting-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Marcia_Wright-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z-Show\/Hide_setting&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Show\/Hide setting&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Show\/Hide setting&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcia_Wright-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z-Show/Hide_setting"></span>Just a <b>thankyou</b> to the editor that changed the default setting to "hide". I was removing it from articles as it made working impossible (I have put them all back in). I still think it is too large but cannot think of a better solution other than breaking it up into parts-a box for just national monuments, etc. Again, thanks! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Marcia_Wright&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Marcia Wright (page does not exist)">Marcia Wright</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcia_Wright" title="User talk:Marcia Wright">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Marcia_Wright-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z-Show/Hide_setting" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 30 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcia_Wright-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z-Show/Hide_setting"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z","author":"Marcia Wright","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Marcia_Wright-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z-Show\/Hide_setting","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcia_Wright-2008-12-30T18:01:00.000Z-Show/Hide_setting"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Breaking_into_sections-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections&quot;,&quot;c-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections&quot;,&quot;h-Arbitrary_subsection-Breaking_into_sections-2009-05-19T06:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Breaking into sections&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Breaking into sections&quot;}--><h2 id="Breaking_into_sections" data-mw-thread-id="h-Breaking_into_sections-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Breaking_into_sections-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z"></span>Breaking into sections<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Breaking_into_sections-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Breaking into sections"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Breaking_into_sections-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections","c-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections","h-Arbitrary_subsection-Breaking_into_sections-2009-05-19T06:46:00.000Z"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Killiondude-2009-05-21T18:22:00.000Z-Arbitrary_subsection","timestamp":"2009-05-21T18:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__17__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__5__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Breaking_into_sections-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections&quot;,&quot;c-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections&quot;,&quot;h-Arbitrary_subsection-Breaking_into_sections-2009-05-19T06:46:00.000Z&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Breaking into sections&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Breaking into sections&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections"></span>I propose that this be broken into sections. Perhaps "National Forests" have their own template, "National Parks" have another, etc. This template is just far too big. I was looking for a template like this to put on <a href="/wiki/Woodland_Opera_House" title="Woodland Opera House">Woodland Opera House</a> (which this template now links to because I created a redirect), but in its current state I refuse to put it on there. Its <a href="/wiki/Information_overload" title="Information overload">information overload</a> to the casual reader. I'll be cross posting this on a couple Wikiproject pages, to try to get more input (in case this page isn't watched). <a href="/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:19, 1 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z","author":"Killiondude","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections","replies":["c-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z"></span>I agree that the template has grown too large; we should decommission it over time. There are already separate templates for <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:National_Protected_Areas_of_California&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:National Protected Areas of California (page does not exist)">Template:National Protected Areas of California</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:State_Protected_Areas_of_California&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:State Protected Areas of California (page does not exist)">Template:State Protected Areas of California</a> which are a step in the right direction. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stepheng3" title="User:Stepheng3">Stepheng3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stepheng3" title="User talk:Stepheng3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:41, 1 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z","author":"Stepheng3","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T18:48:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z","c-Killiondude-2009-05-06T07:30:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-01T05:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T18:48:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z"></span>Well, to be honest even both of those templates (while a step in the right direction) are a bit overloaded too. In my opinion :-) It would be nice to have something that doesn't add a whole one or two screen lengths to the page when you click "show". <a href="/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T18:48:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 1 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T18:48:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-01T18:48:00.000Z","author":"Killiondude","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T18:48:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Killiondude-2009-05-01T18:48:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-06T07:30:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z"></span>I went ahead and forked one section of this template to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:UC_Natural_Reserve_System&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:UC Natural Reserve System (page does not exist)">Template:UC Natural Reserve System</a>. So I removed that section from this template. I plan on doing more of this to decrease the size of this template. I just lopped one of the easier sections for tonight. I'll do the harder parts later. I feel like it would be easier and more beneficial to the casual reader. I saw that this UC Reserve section was in <a href="/w/index.php?title=Template:State_Protected_Areas_of_California&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Template:State Protected Areas of California (page does not exist)">Template:State Protected Areas of California</a> so I removed it from there as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Killiondude-2009-05-06T07:30:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:30, 6 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-06T07:30:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-06T07:30:00.000Z","author":"Killiondude","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Killiondude-2009-05-06T07:30:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-06T11:32:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-06T07:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Killiondude-2009-05-06T07:30:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-01T17:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-06T11:32:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-06T07:30:00.000Z"></span>Not only was the original template too large, the default setting was <i>Show</i> ! I'd have to remove it just to work on the article. I broke it out into the two general categories of state and national, but you're right, they are still too big and cumbersome, at least the National template is. How many new templates are you thinking of, and would they be according to the present sections, e.g. National Wilderness Preservation System, National Marine Sanctuaries, and so on? The national template now has 7 sections, two of which are very small. I'd be interested in knowing your "plan of action" as it were. Also, you'll notice I kept the original template there. If these new smaller templates are created, should the original ones be deleted?<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Marcia_Wright&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Marcia Wright (page does not exist)">Marcia Wright</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcia_Wright" title="User talk:Marcia Wright">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-06T11:32:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-06T07:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:32, 6 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-06T11:32:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-06T07:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-06T11:32:00.000Z","author":"Marcia Wright","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-06T11:32:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-06T07:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-06T11:32:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-06T11:32:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-06T07:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-06T11:32:00.000Z"></span>Okay, so MZMcBride recommended a new course of action for this template. See what I've done via <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Killiondude/template_test&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Killiondude/template test (page does not exist)">User:Killiondude/template test</a>. I'm not done reworking the template, I'll probably finish it this weekend. So now we have all the same info in one box still, but users can show and hide whatever they'd like to see. Best of both worlds. <a href="/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-06T11:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:06, 8 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-06T11:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z","author":"Killiondude","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-06T11:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T21:37:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z","c-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-08T21:49:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-06T11:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T21:37:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z"></span>That's very cool -- thanks. One thing bugs me, however, is that the headings need to be clearer, since users might not know to find State Beaches under State Parks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stepheng3" title="User:Stepheng3">Stepheng3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stepheng3" title="User talk:Stepheng3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T21:37:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:37, 8 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T21:37:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-08T21:37:00.000Z","author":"Stepheng3","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T21:37:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T21:37:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-08T21:49:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z"></span>YES Thank you Killiondude-we appreciate your effort. My only small concern is the size of the template at page bottom, but thats nitpicky, doesn't matter. Again thanks <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Marcia_Wright&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Marcia Wright (page does not exist)">Marcia Wright</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcia_Wright" title="User talk:Marcia Wright">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-08T21:49:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-08T21:49:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-08T21:49:00.000Z","author":"Marcia Wright","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-08T21:49:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Killiondude-2009-05-08T22:15:00.000Z-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-08T21:49:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-08T21:49:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T08:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-08T22:15:00.000Z-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-08T21:49:00.000Z"></span>@Stepheng3: I thought of that too, but as of last night I just used the same titles that the original template had used. Do you have any suggestions on changing the title? I thought readers might peruse each drop down box, and see the subsection in bold and that might be how they find "State Beaches" for example. But we can discuss it and stuff.</dd> <dd>@Marcia: Are you talking about the section that says "Heritage Registers"? Again, I just copied that off the regular template. We can change things up if that's the consensus. <a href="/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Killiondude-2009-05-08T22:15:00.000Z-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-08T21:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 8 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-08T22:15:00.000Z-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-08T21:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-08T22:15:00.000Z","author":"Killiondude","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Killiondude-2009-05-08T22:15:00.000Z-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-08T21:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T23:03:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T22:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Killiondude-2009-05-08T22:15:00.000Z-Marcia_Wright-2009-05-08T21:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T23:03:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T22:15:00.000Z"></span>How about "State Parks, including State Reserves, Historic Parks, Beaches, and Recreation Areas" ? --<a href="/wiki/User:Stepheng3" title="User:Stepheng3">Stepheng3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stepheng3" title="User talk:Stepheng3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T23:03:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T22:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 8 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T23:03:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T22:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-08T23:03:00.000Z","author":"Stepheng3","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T23:03:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T22:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-PKM-2009-05-09T23:57:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T23:03:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T23:03:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-08T22:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PKM-2009-05-09T23:57:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T23:03:00.000Z"></span>How about "State Parks, Reserves, Historic Parks, Beaches, and Recreation Areas"? I like the way this is going. - <a href="/wiki/User:PKM" title="User:PKM">PKM</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PKM" title="User talk:PKM">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-PKM-2009-05-09T23:57:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T23:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PKM-2009-05-09T23:57:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T23:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-09T23:57:00.000Z","author":"PKM","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-PKM-2009-05-09T23:57:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T23:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PKM-2009-05-09T23:57:00.000Z-Stepheng3-2009-05-08T23:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections"></span>(unindent) Okay. I'm officially done with the coding and stuff. It took me a <b>long</b> time to do all this since its my first time working with templates this extensively. Anyways, feel free to take a look at the template (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Killiondude/template_test&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Killiondude/template test (page does not exist)">User:Killiondude/template test</a>) and give any constructive criticism as far as the coding/layout part. Next we can discuss titles if you'd like, but first see the section titled "Parameters" on the test page. An example of using {{User:Killiondude/template test|NPS}} is found on <a href="/wiki/User:Killiondude/Sandbox" title="User:Killiondude/Sandbox">User:Killiondude/Sandbox</a>. Just drop-down the main box, and the National Park System subsection is already opened. So all the articles liked under the National Park System could have {{User:Killiondude/template test|NPS}}, and when a user goes to look for other parks in this system in California, it'll be right there for them when they open the template up. They could also browse thru the other subsections of protected areas in California too (the desired outcome of the template). :-) </p><p>This might eliminate the need to retitle things, as the specific subsection will be open for users once the open the template itself. What do you guys think? <a href="/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:51, 13 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z","author":"Killiondude","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections","replies":["c-Killiondude-2009-05-17T06:52:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z-Breaking_into_sections"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-17T06:52:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z"></span>I'm going to copy my coding over, replacing this template soon (maybe tomorrow)... since there's been no discussion in over 4 days. Things can be tweaked here (titles) if that's what you guys want. <a href="/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Killiondude-2009-05-17T06:52:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-17T06:52:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-17T06:52:00.000Z","author":"Killiondude","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Killiondude-2009-05-17T06:52:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Myasuda-2009-05-20T01:21:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-17T06:52:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Killiondude-2009-05-17T06:52:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-13T00:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Myasuda-2009-05-20T01:21:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-17T06:52:00.000Z"></span>Great update to the template! You might want to promote this format as a standard at <a href="/wiki/Category_talk:Protected_areas_templates" title="Category talk:Protected areas templates">Category talk:Protected areas templates</a>. Your improvement deserves a larger audience than just this template. — <a href="/wiki/User:Myasuda" title="User:Myasuda">Myasuda</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Myasuda" title="User talk:Myasuda">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Myasuda-2009-05-20T01:21:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-17T06:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:21, 20 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Myasuda-2009-05-20T01:21:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-17T06:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-20T01:21:00.000Z","author":"Myasuda","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Myasuda-2009-05-20T01:21:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-17T06:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Killiondude-2009-05-20T02:57:00.000Z-Myasuda-2009-05-20T01:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Myasuda-2009-05-20T01:21:00.000Z-Killiondude-2009-05-17T06:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-20T02:57:00.000Z-Myasuda-2009-05-20T01:21:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the compliment and the idea. I'll post something over at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Protected_areas" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Protected areas">WT:WikiProject Protected areas</a> since that falls under them. <a href="/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Killiondude-2009-05-20T02:57:00.000Z-Myasuda-2009-05-20T01:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:57, 20 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-20T02:57:00.000Z-Myasuda-2009-05-20T01:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-20T02:57:00.000Z","author":"Killiondude","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Killiondude-2009-05-20T02:57:00.000Z-Myasuda-2009-05-20T01:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Killiondude-2009-05-20T02:57:00.000Z-Myasuda-2009-05-20T01:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Arbitrary_subsection" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arbitrary_subsection-Breaking_into_sections-2009-05-19T06:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arbitrary_subsection-Breaking_into_sections-2009-05-19T06:46:00.000Z"></span>Arbitrary subsection<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arbitrary_subsection-Breaking_into_sections-2009-05-19T06:46:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Arbitrary subsection"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-19T06:46:00.000Z-Arbitrary_subsection"></span>The thread above was getting to be an eyesore, so I'll just start this subsection. Using AWB I just replaced all the other templates that were broken off from this major one, with this one. I started going through and checking articles to see if they have the new parameters, using a list compiled from AWB of articles that transclude this template now. I didn't get nearly all the way through, and saved the remaining work in a supage of mine titled <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Killiondude/Articles_needing_parameters&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Killiondude/Articles needing parameters (page does not exist)">Articles needing parameters</a>. Its a bit of a misnomer though, because there are probably several pages in there that have a parameter attached already. Any help in this endeavor would be appreciated. <a href="/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Killiondude-2009-05-19T06:46:00.000Z-Arbitrary_subsection" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:46, 19 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-19T06:46:00.000Z-Arbitrary_subsection"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-19T06:46:00.000Z","author":"Killiondude","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Killiondude-2009-05-19T06:46:00.000Z-Arbitrary_subsection","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Killiondude-2009-05-19T06:46:00.000Z-Arbitrary_subsection"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-21T18:22:00.000Z-Arbitrary_subsection"></span>Okay, another update. <a href="/wiki/User:Mikaey" title="User:Mikaey">Mikaey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mikaey" title="User talk:Mikaey">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mikaey" title="Special:Contributions/Mikaey">contribs</a>) was kind enough to create a hidden category for this template, so any instance of it that doesn't have a parameter appended will show up in this category. It can be found at <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Protected_Areas_of_California_articles_without_parameters&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Protected Areas of California articles without parameters (page does not exist)">Category:Protected Areas of California articles without parameters</a>. This category kind of outdates my subpage. It has a lot more pages because last night I started going through with AutoWikiBrowser and adding this template to all the pages it links to (I'm not done, however. I think I have like 500 more pages to look through). For right now all the parameters have to be added by hand, unless it is found that a bot can do it via adding the same parameter for all the instances in a certain category. I don't know if that'll work though, because 1) I don't know if there's categories for this situation (I haven't looked) and 2) A lot of these pages aren't categorized correctly, and we'd miss a lot of pages if a bot did a run-through. Please let me know if you don't understand what I'm saying, and I'll try to explain it better. Collaboration on this would be great. <a href="/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Killiondude-2009-05-21T18:22:00.000Z-Arbitrary_subsection" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-21T18:22:00.000Z-Arbitrary_subsection"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-21T18:22:00.000Z","author":"Killiondude","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Killiondude-2009-05-21T18:22:00.000Z-Arbitrary_subsection","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Killiondude-2009-05-21T18:22:00.000Z-Arbitrary_subsection"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Killiondude-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Hurrah!-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Killiondude-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z-Hurrah!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Hurrah!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Hurrah!&quot;}--><h2 id="Hurrah!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hurrah!-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z"><span id="Hurrah.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hurrah!-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z"></span>Hurrah!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hurrah!-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: Hurrah!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Killiondude-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Hurrah!-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Killiondude-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z-Hurrah!"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Killiondude-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z-Hurrah!","timestamp":"2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Killiondude-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Hurrah!-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Killiondude-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z-Hurrah!&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Hurrah!&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Hurrah!&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z-Hurrah!"></span>I figured out how to use AWB to clean out the category of pages that have no parameter attached to this template. As of right now, the only work that needs to be done with this template is to fix all the red links. Many of the redlinks actually have pages of the same topic, just under a different title. If you find such an instance, please change the link in the template to point towards the actual page (you can leave the title the same, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PIPE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PIPE">pipping</a> it if necessary. <a href="/wiki/User:Killiondude" title="User:Killiondude">Killiondude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Killiondude" title="User talk:Killiondude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Killiondude-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z-Hurrah!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:22, 30 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Killiondude-2009-05-30T00:22:00.000Z-Hurrah!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-128.48.6.189-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Edit_request_from_128.48.6.189,_21_September_2011-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-128.48.6.189-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_128.48.6.189,_21_September_2011&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Edit request from 128.48.6.189, 21 September 2011&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Edit request from 128.48.6.189, 21 September 2011&quot;}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-128.48.6.189-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_128.48.6.189,_21_September_2011"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>A new reserve has been added to the UC Natural Reserve System by a vote of the UC Regents as of July 14, 2011. </p><p>The Steele Burnand Anza-Borrego Desert Research Center is managed by UC Irvine. It covers an area of 2,477 hectares/615,000 acres, which largely consists of adjacent Anza-Borrego Desert State Park. This acreage listing is authorized by agreement with Anza-Borrego Desert State Park. </p><p>The web page of the new reserve is here: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://nrs.ucop.edu/reserves/anza-borrego/anza-borrego.htm">http://nrs.ucop.edu/reserves/anza-borrego/anza-borrego.htm</a> </p><p>The headquarters of the reserve are located in a former country club at the outskirts of the town of Borrego Springs. The latitude and longitude of Borrego Springs is 33 degrees 15' 26" N / 116 degrees 22' 20" W </p><p>Note should probably point out that an agreement with Anza-Borrego Desert State Park and the Anza-Borrego Foundation makes the park available to reserve users. </p><p>The addition of the Steele Burnand Anza-Borrego Desert Research Center means that the UC Natural Reserve System as a whole now consists of 37 sites that include more than 750,000 acres. </p><p>Reference sources: a UC Irvine press release about the new reserve; the date reflects when UC Irvine closed escrow on the property, but not when the UC Regents voted to approve the new reserve <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.today.uci.edu/news/2011/05/nr_desert_110512.html">http://www.today.uci.edu/news/2011/05/nr_desert_110512.html</a> </p><p>A Los Angeles Times article about the new reserve <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/12/local/la-me-0512-borrego-springs-20110510">http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/12/local/la-me-0512-borrego-springs-20110510</a> </p><p>The action of the UC Regents that approved the addition of the new reserve to the UC Natural Reserve System: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/regents/aar/aar.html">http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/regents/aar/aar.html</a> download the pdf under July 2011 / Committee on Educational Policy </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/128.48.6.189" title="Special:Contributions/128.48.6.189">128.48.6.189</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:128.48.6.189" title="User talk:128.48.6.189">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-128.48.6.189-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_128.48.6.189,_21_September_2011" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:04, 22 September 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-128.48.6.189-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_128.48.6.189,_21_September_2011"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z","author":"128.48.6.189","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-128.48.6.189-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_128.48.6.189,_21_September_2011","replies":["c-Stepheng3-2011-09-22T04:57:00.000Z-128.48.6.189-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-128.48.6.189-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z-Edit_request_from_128.48.6.189,_21_September_2011"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stepheng3-2011-09-22T04:57:00.000Z-128.48.6.189-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z"></span>I've added a redlink to this navbox template. Perhaps you'd care to create an article to satisfy the redlink? Contact me on my talkpage if you would like help with this. —<a href="/wiki/User:Stepheng3" title="User:Stepheng3">Stepheng3</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stepheng3" title="User talk:Stepheng3">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Stepheng3-2011-09-22T04:57:00.000Z-128.48.6.189-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:57, 22 September 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stepheng3-2011-09-22T04:57:00.000Z-128.48.6.189-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-09-22T04:57:00.000Z","author":"Stepheng3","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stepheng3-2011-09-22T04:57:00.000Z-128.48.6.189-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stepheng3-2011-09-22T04:57:00.000Z-128.48.6.189-2011-09-22T00:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Bentendo24-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-National_Park_System-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Bentendo24-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z-National_Park_System&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;National Park System&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;National Park System&quot;}--><h2 id="National_Park_System" data-mw-thread-id="h-National_Park_System-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-National_Park_System-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z"></span>National Park System<span data-mw-comment-end="h-National_Park_System-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California&amp;action=edit&amp;section=7" title="Edit section: National Park System"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Bentendo24-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-National_Park_System-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bentendo24-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z-National_Park_System"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Bentendo24-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z-National_Park_System","timestamp":"2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Bentendo24-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-National_Park_System-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Bentendo24-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z-National_Park_System&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;National Park System&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;National Park System&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bentendo24-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z-National_Park_System"></span>Under the National Park System header, there are several National Monuments that are not actually controlled by the National Park Service, but rather the Bureau of Land Management and/or United States Forest Service. These include: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Berryessa_Snow_Mountain_National_Monument" title="Berryessa Snow Mountain National Monument">Berryessa Snow Mountain National Monument</a></li></ul> <p>and </p> <ul><li>Fort Ord</li></ul> <p>It is misleading to say that they are units of the National Park Service. </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Bentendo24" title="User:Bentendo24">Bentendo24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bentendo24" title="User talk:Bentendo24">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Bentendo24-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z-National_Park_System" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:54, 14 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bentendo24-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z-National_Park_System"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z","author":"Bentendo24","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bentendo24-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z-National_Park_System","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bentendo24-2016-02-14T00:54:00.000Z-National_Park_System"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Btphelps-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-County_level_preserves-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Btphelps-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z-County_level_preserves&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;County level preserves&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;County level preserves&quot;}--><h2 id="County_level_preserves" data-mw-thread-id="h-County_level_preserves-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-County_level_preserves-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z"></span>County level preserves<span data-mw-comment-end="h-County_level_preserves-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: County level preserves"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Btphelps-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-County_level_preserves-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Btphelps-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z-County_level_preserves"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Btphelps-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z-County_level_preserves","timestamp":"2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Btphelps-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-County_level_preserves-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Btphelps-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z-County_level_preserves&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;County level preserves&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;County level preserves&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Btphelps-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z-County_level_preserves"></span>I was considering creating an article for and including the <a href="/wiki/Mill_Creek_Redwood_Preserve" title="Mill Creek Redwood Preserve">Mill Creek Redwood Preserve</a> in this template, but the preserve is a unit of the Monterey Peninsula Regional Park District. I thought I'd check here to see if it's appropriate to add a county-level category to this template, but this is already a long template. Is there another existing template that might be more appropriate? — <a href="/wiki/User:Btphelps" title="User:Btphelps">btphelps</a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Btphelps" title="User talk:Btphelps">talk to me</a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Btphelps" title="Special:Contributions/Btphelps">what I've done</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Btphelps-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z-County_level_preserves" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:37, 12 September 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Btphelps-2016-09-12T22:37:00.000Z-County_level_preserves"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <pre><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2604:2000:E8C1:2700:F195:B124:5AD5:17C5" title="Special:Contributions/2604:2000:E8C1:2700:F195:B124:5AD5:17C5">2604:2000:E8C1:2700:F195:B124:5AD5:17C5</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2604:2000:E8C1:2700:F195:B124:5AD5:17C5&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2604:2000:E8C1:2700:F195:B124:5AD5:17C5 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-2604:2000:E8C1:2700:F195:B124:5AD5:17C5-2017-02-07T00:54:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_7_February_2017" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:54, 7 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2604:2000:E8C1:2700:F195:B124:5AD5:17C5-2017-02-07T00:54:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_7_February_2017"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-07T00:54:00.000Z","author":"2604:2000:E8C1:2700:F195:B124:5AD5:17C5","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2604:2000:E8C1:2700:F195:B124:5AD5:17C5-2017-02-07T00:54:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_7_February_2017","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2604:2000:E8C1:2700:F195:B124:5AD5:17C5-2017-02-07T00:54:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_7_February_2017"></span> </pre> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DRAGON_BOOSTER-2017-02-07T04:14:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_7_February_2017"></span>Overall angel island was carried out due to the fact the chinese exculi </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/20px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/30px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/40px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="62" data-file-height="62"/></span></span> <b>Not done:</b> it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. <a href="/wiki/User:DRAGON_BOOSTER" title="User:DRAGON BOOSTER"><span style="color:blue;size=2">DRAGON BOOSTER</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:DRAGON_BOOSTER" title="User talk:DRAGON BOOSTER"><span style="color:#33dd44;size=2"> ★</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-DRAGON_BOOSTER-2017-02-07T04:14:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_7_February_2017" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:14, 7 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DRAGON_BOOSTER-2017-02-07T04:14:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_7_February_2017"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-02-07T04:14:00.000Z","author":"DRAGON BOOSTER","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DRAGON_BOOSTER-2017-02-07T04:14:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_7_February_2017","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DRAGON_BOOSTER-2017-02-07T04:14:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_7_February_2017"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rosenbergwrite-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rosenbergwrite-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;2021 - Adding Conservation Land Trusts&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;2021 - Adding Conservation Land Trusts&quot;}--><h2 id="2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts" data-mw-thread-id="h-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z"></span>2021 - Adding Conservation Land Trusts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California&amp;action=edit&amp;section=10" title="Edit section: 2021 - Adding Conservation Land Trusts"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Rosenbergwrite-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Rosenbergwrite-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Rosenbergwrite-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts","timestamp":"2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Rosenbergwrite-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Rosenbergwrite-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;2021 - Adding Conservation Land Trusts&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;2021 - Adding Conservation Land Trusts&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rosenbergwrite-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts"></span>I have seen other states' protected areas templates contain private non-profits, so I've added that section here and including a list of examples. Please feel welcome to add more as you find them! </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Rosenbergwrite" title="User:Rosenbergwrite">Rosenbergwrite</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rosenbergwrite" title="User talk:Rosenbergwrite">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Protected_areas_of_California#c-Rosenbergwrite-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 3 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rosenbergwrite-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z","author":"Rosenbergwrite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rosenbergwrite-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rosenbergwrite-2021-12-03T20:05:00.000Z-2021_-_Adding_Conservation_Land_Trusts"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐api‐ext.eqiad.main‐6696b4cc84‐jw5gn Cached time: 20241122004816 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.022 seconds CPU time usage: 0.219 seconds Real time usage: 0.298 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 664/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 16473/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 13/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 8/100 Expensive parser function count: 8/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 19236/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.131/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 2207773/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 208.044 1 -total 86.05% 179.016 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 35.61% 74.094 1 Template:WikiProject_Protected_areas 17.88% 37.191 1 Template:WikiProject_California 8.98% 18.692 1 Template:User 4.68% 9.744 2 Template:Edit_semi-protected 1.04% 2.170 1 Template:Para --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:13204318-0!canonical and timestamp 20241122004816 and revision id 1235226501. 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