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id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="sv" dir="ltr"><p>Se <a href="/wiki/Kejsare" title="Kejsare">Kejsare</a> för detta ords etymologi. </p><p>Sebastjan </p><p><br /> </p> <hr /> <p>Jag kan inte <a href="/wiki/Persiska" title="Persiska">persiska</a> eller <a href="/wiki/Turkiska" title="Turkiska">turkiska</a>, men den här artikeln verkar innehålla fler etymologiska felaktigheter än ord. (Försiktig gissning: den är skriven av någon person med iranska nationalistiska böjelser.) Mitt <i>Concise Oxford Dictonary</i> anger: </p> <ul><li>att persiskans <i>šāh</i> kommer av fornpersiskans <i>k_šāyt_iya</i> (strecken är i COD:s transkription under k resp. t), kung;</li> <li>att turkiskans Pasha eller <i>paşa</i> troligen kommer av ett ord <i>başa</i>, huvud, hövding ("f. Turk. paşa prob. = <i>başa</i> [<i>baş</i> head, chief]");</li> <li>att <i>Caesar</i> (och därmed även <i><a href="/wiki/Kejsare" title="Kejsare">kejsare</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Tsar" title="Tsar">tsar</a></i> etc.) kommer av vad som ursprungligen helt enkelt var <a href="/wiki/Julius_Caesar" title="Julius Caesar">Gaius Julius Caesars</a> släktnamn, vilket ju även är den vanliga förklaringen. Den anger inte att det sistnämnda skulle ha något med ovannämnda persiska ord att göra.</li></ul> <p>Engelska Wikipedia har denna artikel om ordet: </p> <dl><dd><b>Shah</b> (Persian: شاه), from the <a href="/wiki/Zoroastrianism" class="mw-redirect" title="Zoroastrianism">Avestan</a> word <i>khshatra</i>, meaning "king", is the <a href="/wiki/Persian" title="Persian">Persian</a> term for a <a href="/w/index.php?title=Monarch&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Monarch [inte skriven än]">monarch</a> and used by the former rulers of <a href="/wiki/Persia" class="mw-disambig" title="Persia">Persia</a> (present-day <a href="/wiki/Iran" title="Iran">Iran</a>) as well as the rulers of the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Persian_Empire&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Persian Empire [inte skriven än]">Persian Empire</a>. The title roughly translates as <a href="/wiki/Emperor" title="Emperor">Emperor</a> in English as the monarch of Persia was technically the Emperor of the Persian Empire (later the <i>Empire of Iran</i> as Iran was officially known until 1979).</dd></dl> <dl><dd>he last <a href="/w/index.php?title=Shah_of_Iran&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Shah of Iran [inte skriven än]">Shah of Iran</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi_of_Iran&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Mohammad Reza Pahlavi of Iran [inte skriven än]">Mohammed Reza Pahlavi</a> officially adopted the title <i>Shahanshah</i> (Persian: شاهنشاه) - literary <i>King of Kings</i> or Emperor during his coronation. He also styled his wife <i>Shahbanou</i> (Persian: شهبانو) or Empress (previously the wife of the Iranian monarch was known as <i>Maleke</i> (Persian: ملکه) or <a href="/w/index.php?title=Queen_consort&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Queen consort [inte skriven än]">Queen</a>).</dd></dl> <dl><dd>This Persian title was also used by <a href="/w/index.php?title=Ottoman_Empire&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Ottoman Empire [inte skriven än]">Ottoman</a> Turks to entitle a great hero or Emperor. The <a href="/wiki/English_language" class="mw-redirect" title="English language">English</a> words <i>check</i>, <i>checkmate</i> (with the semitic root "mata" - <i>to die</i>) and <i><a href="/wiki/Chess" title="Chess">chess</a></i> are all derived from Shah.</dd></dl> <p>Jag orkar inte skriva om artikeln just nu, men en giftmärkning kanske är på sin plats. Författarens (IP 81.225.112.93) <a class="external text" href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&amp;target=81.225.112.93">övriga bidrag</a> (alla från 9 aug. 2003) bör kanske kontrolleras. </p><p>//<a href="/w/index.php?title=Anv%C3%A4ndare:Celsius&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Användare:Celsius [inte skriven än]">°C</a> 22 september 2004 kl.17.23 (CEST) </p><p><br /> Hej! Jag är ej heller någon specialist på området, men inte rymmer väl varken <i>Concise Oxford Dictionary</i> eller engelska wikipedia all världens vetande? </p><p>//<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Sintram" title="Användare:Sintram">Användare:Sintram</a> 2004-09-22 kl. 17:39 (CEST) </p><p><br /> </p> <dl><dd>Nej, men <i>Concise Oxford Dictionary</i> har högre trovärdighet än den anonyme användaren <a href="/w/index.php?title=Anv%C3%A4ndare:81.225.112.93&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Användare:81.225.112.93 [inte skriven än]">81.225.112.93</a> om vilken vi endast vet att han/hon gjort sammanlagt sex redigeringar eller bidrag här under en dag förra året. Och engelska Wikipedia innehåller inte fullt så mycket konstigheter som den svenska, eftersom det är kanske femtio gånger så stor chans att sådana upptäcks av någon kunnig användare (mycket grov uppskattning baserat på ungefärligt antal registrerade användare). Det är nog vettigt att påpeka vad man tror är fel även om man inte omedelbart kan gå in och korrigera det.//<a href="/w/index.php?title=Anv%C3%A4ndare:Celsius&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Användare:Celsius [inte skriven än]">°C</a> 22 september 2004 kl.17.53 (CEST)</dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐6b8cb67659‐84mjv Cached time: 20250328001951 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.005 seconds CPU time usage: 0.013 seconds Real time usage: 0.019 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 1/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 0/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 0/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 1/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 0/5000000 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 0.000 1 -total --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key svwiki:pcache:16151:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20250328001951 and revision id 7342916. 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