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class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB&action=edit&section=1" title="编辑章节：關於整理條目「低地台巴士」及「特低地台巴士」的原因"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-218.103.215.6-2008-02-17T13:50:00.000Z-關於整理條目「低地台巴士」及「特低地台巴士」的原因"></span>在香港，人們對上下車門沒有梯級（台階）的巴士有不同的稱呼。巴士公司方面，<a href="/wiki/%E4%B9%9D%E9%BE%8D%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB" title="九龍巴士">九龍巴士</a>稱之為「<b>超低地台巴士</b>」，<a href="/wiki/%E6%96%B0%E5%B7%B4" class="mw-redirect" title="新巴">新巴</a>稱之為「<b>特低地台巴士</b>」，而<a href="/wiki/%E5%9F%8E%E5%B7%B4" title="城巴">城巴</a>稱之為「<b>低地台巴士</b>」（可參考<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.citybus.com.hk/chi/GenInfo/Overview/overview_csr.htm">城巴概覽</a>的圖片註釋及<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.citybus.com.hk/chi/RouSer/Airport/cityflyer.asp">城巴- 機場及迪士尼服務</a>的內容及圖片）。 </p><p>也有部分巴士書籍，包括全數8冊<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.cmn.com.hk/en/cmn.php?act=readpublication&cateid=2">《香港巴士年鑑》（1997年至2004年）</a>及<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.bsihobbies.hk/main-a2.htm">《香港巴士資料集　九巴、龍運巴士》</a>，形容「<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%B9%E5%B0%BC%E5%A3%AB%E4%B8%89%E5%8F%89%E6%88%9F" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="丹尼士三叉戟">丹尼士三叉戟</a>」這款上下車門沒有梯級的巴士為「低地台巴士」。一些香港政府屬下的網頁文件都有以「低地台巴士」來稱呼上下車門沒有梯級的巴士，以<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.districtcouncils.gov.hk/south_d/chinese/doc/TTC/TTC%20Mins%2017.pdf">此（PDF）</a>為例，第4頁指低地台巴士其中一個設計是沒有梯級的上下車處；第9頁指新巴於1993至1995年引入（其實是中巴引入香港的）「非低地台巴士」，翻查部分巴士書籍，在這段時期引入而直到文件建立之時（2006年）仍然行駛的型號只有<a href="/wiki/%E4%B8%B9%E5%B0%BC%E5%A3%AB%E7%A6%BF%E9%B7%B9%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB" class="mw-redirect" title="丹尼士禿鷹巴士">丹尼士禿鷹</a>及<a href="/wiki/%E5%AF%8C%E8%B1%AA%E5%A5%A7%E6%9E%97%E5%8C%B9%E5%85%8B" title="富豪奧林匹克">富豪奧林匹克</a>兩款巴士，而這兩款巴士的上車處均只有一個梯級。 </p><p>另外，本人曾經在Google網站搜尋資料， </p> <ul><li>搜索條件「"梯級" "低地台巴士"」：部分頁面的內容相信是源自維基百科，而在其他頁面內都未能發現「低地台巴士的登車門有梯級」的記載。</li> <li>搜索條件「"台階" "低地台巴士"」：共有4項搜尋結果，其中3項的內容相信是源自維基百科，餘下1項的內容跟巴士無關。</li> <li>搜索條件「"階梯" "低地台巴士"」：共有4項搜尋結果，其中2項內容跟巴士無關，餘下2項的「階梯」都不是形容低地台巴士。</li></ul> <p>條目「低地台巴士」內的{{Unreferenced}}模板已存在超過半年，但至今仍沒有人在條目加上任何來源。 </p><p>鑒於條目「低地台巴士」的原有內容可能構成誤會，因此本人已把這些內容刪除，只留下「低地台巴士是巴士車廂地台離路面距離比較低的巴士」（因為英文維基百科條目<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_floor" class="extiw" title="en:Low floor">Low floor</a>有類似的記載）。若要恢復這些內容，請附上合理解釋及加入來源（不接受「丹拿珍寶是低地台巴士始祖」、「九巴的三菱MK218是低地台巴士」或由此兩點引申出來的解釋。丹拿珍寶於1960至70年代生產時，英國及香港不少巴士是有兩個或以上的梯級，而且當年「低地台巴士」的定義未必與今日的相同）；九巴的三菱MK218的地台比車隊內其他三菱巴士低，但上車處仍然有梯級，而且《香港巴士資料集　九巴、龍運巴士》沒有把該巴士列入「低地台巴士」範圍內。 </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/218.103.215.6" title="Special:用户贡献/218.103.215.6">218.103.215.6</a> (<a 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id="c-219.79.185.237-2008-02-18T12:15:00.000Z-218.103.215.6-2008-02-17T13:50:00.000Z"></span>《香港巴士資料集　九巴、龍運巴士》也沒有把丹尼士飛鏢SLF巴士列入「低地台巴士」範圍內。不過如果上車門可以設有斜台，而下車門設有梯級的丹拿珍寶不是低地台巴士，那麼三菱MK218也不算是「低地台巴士」。</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/219.79.185.237" title="Special:用户贡献/219.79.185.237">219.79.185.237</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:219.79.185.237&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:219.79.185.237（页面不存在）">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB#c-219.79.185.237-2008-02-18T12:15:00.000Z-218.103.215.6-2008-02-17T13:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年2月18日 (一) 12:15 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-219.79.185.237-2008-02-18T12:15:00.000Z-218.103.215.6-2008-02-17T13:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-219.79.185.237-2008-02-18T12:15:00.000Z-218.103.215.6-2008-02-17T13:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-218.103.208.48-2008-03-02T04:21:00.000Z-219.79.185.237-2008-02-18T12:15:00.000Z"></span>《香港巴士年鑑2000》及《香港巴士年鑑2001》都指「低床巴士」是設有兩個梯級；<a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%AF%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%86%E3%83%83%E3%83%97%E3%83%90%E3%82%B9" class="extiw" title="ja:ワンステップバス">ja:ワンステップバス</a>指「超低床巴士」大概是指設有輪椅升降台的巴士（リフト付超低床バス）及由其衍生出來的巴士，而該條目內的圖片顯示リフト付超低床バス仍然有梯級。</dd> <dd>再看看以上的內容，條目「低地台巴士」內形容登車門大多數只有一級的巴士是「低床巴士」相信沒有問題，但形容它們是「低地台巴士」似乎有問題。</dd> <dd>看來現時條目「低地台巴士」內存在的問題是「究竟日本的低床巴士及香港的低地台巴士的定義是否相同」，但這個問題可能要由條目「低地台巴士」的創建者解決了。如果沒有或無法證明日本的低床巴士是等於香港的低地台巴士，我建議把條目「低地台巴士」更名為「低床巴士」，再把「特低地台巴士」更名為「低地台巴士」。（另外以我所知低底盤公車的登車道好像是不設台階的）</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/218.103.208.48" 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-219.79.107.156-2008-04-23T11:53:00.000Z-218.103.215.6-2008-02-17T13:50:00.000Z"></span>因應城巴及新巴網頁「合併」提供以下的新參考連結：<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nwstbus.com.hk/content/default.aspx?intLangID=2&section=routes&page=privateHire">1</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nwstbus.com.hk/content/default.aspx?intLangID=2&section=routes&page=getOnCityflyer">2</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nwstbus.com.hk/routes/routeinfo.aspx?intLangID=2&searchtype=1&daytime=3&textOnly=true&route=97&routetype=D&company=5">3</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nwstbus.com.hk/content/default.aspx?intLangID=1&section=routes&page=privateHire">4</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nwstbus.com.hk/content/default.aspx?intLangID=1&section=routes&page=getOnCityflyer">5</a></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/219.79.107.156" 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="對條目內容的爭議" data-mw-thread-id="h-對條目內容的爭議-2008-03-14T15:48:00.000Z"><span id=".E5.B0.8D.E6.A2.9D.E7.9B.AE.E5.85.A7.E5.AE.B9.E7.9A.84.E7.88.AD.E8.AD.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-對條目內容的爭議-2008-03-14T15:48:00.000Z"></span>對條目內容的爭議<span data-mw-comment-end="h-對條目內容的爭議-2008-03-14T15:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB&action=edit&section=2" title="编辑章节：對條目內容的爭議"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-220.246.193.217-2008-03-14T15:48:00.000Z-對條目內容的爭議"></span>綜合以上的內容，本條目的內容可能存在以下爭議，條目內容指： </p> <ol><li>「低地台巴士的登車門大多數只有一級」，但有來自巴士書籍等等的內容指出「低地台巴士的上下車門沒有梯級/台階」</li> <li>低地台巴士等於低床巴士，但坊間似乎對兩者有著不盡相同的解釋</li> <li>「低底盤公車車內地板至地面高度僅三十五公分，後車門更設置斜坡板」，若地板至地面高度是三十五公分，那麼低底盤公車應該可以「上下車門沒有梯級/台階」。這與「登車門大多數只有一級的低地台巴士」的設計不同（可能需要把這一段移至<a href="/wiki/%E7%89%B9%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB" title="特低地台巴士">特低地台巴士</a>）</li> <li>低地台巴士的英文是Low Floor Bus。<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_floor" class="extiw" title="en:Low floor">en:Low floor</a>指「這類型的巴士的上下車門沒有梯級/台階」，條目指「低地台巴士的登車門大多數只有一級」的解釋與該英文條目的解釋不符</li></ol> <p>另參看條目的編輯歷史<a class="external text" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB&diff=2631715&oldid=1959180">1</a><a class="external text" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB&diff=2631916&oldid=2631715">2</a><a class="external text" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB&diff=3555548&oldid=2636691">3</a><a class="external text" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB&diff=4721893&oldid=4415089">4</a>，可見對本條目的內容爭議不是近期才出現的。這問題是有需要解決，否則爭論遲早會再次出現。 </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/220.246.193.217" title="Special:用户贡献/220.246.193.217">220.246.193.217</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:220.246.193.217&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:220.246.193.217（页面不存在）">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB#c-220.246.193.217-2008-03-14T15:48:00.000Z-對條目內容的爭議" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年3月14日 (五) 15:48 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-220.246.193.217-2008-03-14T15:48:00.000Z-對條目內容的爭議"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p class="notice metadata" id="spoiler" style="font-size: small"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-218.103.216.152-2008-03-19T14:07:00.000Z-低地台巴士_=_低床巴士？"></span>本主題或以下段落文字，<span style="text-decoration: underline;">移動自</span><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:%E9%A6%99%E6%B8%AF%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E4%BD%88%E5%91%8A%E6%9D%BF/2008%E5%B9%B43%E6%9C%88" title="Wikipedia talk:香港維基人佈告板/2008年3月">Wikipedia talk:香港維基人佈告板/2008年3月</a></b>。</p> <p>在中文維基百科已存在兩年的條目<a href="/wiki/%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB" title="低地台巴士">低地台巴士</a>解釋「低地台巴士的登車門大多數只有一級」，但在其討論頁（<a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk:低地台巴士</a>）內有人提出質疑並附上外連結等證明，而日語維基百科條目<a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%84%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%83%86%E3%83%83%E3%83%97%E3%83%90%E3%82%B9" class="extiw" title="ja:ツーステップバス">ja:ツーステップバス</a>（Two-step bus）指"一般低床"巴士的地台離地高度最高為900mm（無梯級巴士則為350mm左右）。不知道各位認為低地台巴士的上下車處有多少梯級？另問如果在條目有準確性爭議情況下，只以IP用戶編輯作解釋而把相關模板移除是否合理？（早一陣子該條目內有準確性爭議模板，但被移除） </p><p>（由於<a class="external text" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E8%B6%85%E4%BD%8E%E5%BA%8A%E9%9B%BB%E8%BB%8A&action=history">有維基人指「地台」是港式用語</a>，因此在此張貼） </p><p><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/218.103.216.152" title="Special:用户贡献/218.103.216.152">218.103.216.152</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:218.103.216.152&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:218.103.216.152（页面不存在）">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB#c-218.103.216.152-2008-03-19T14:07:00.000Z-低地台巴士_=_低床巴士？" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年3月19日 (三) 14:07 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-218.103.216.152-2008-03-19T14:07:00.000Z-低地台巴士_=_低床巴士？"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-218.103.216.152-2008-03-19T14:07:00.000Z-低地台巴士_=_低床巴士？"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kevinhksouth-2008-03-20T03:34:00.000Z-218.103.216.152-2008-03-19T14:07:00.000Z"></span>各地中文用語在中文維基百科是平等的，假如其他地區不用「地台」一詞，可使用 {{<a href="/wiki/Template:NoteTA" title="Template:NoteTA">NoteTA</a>}} 模板解決用詞的顯示問題，條目名稱則不需要作出移動。 -- <a href="/wiki/User:Kevinhksouth" title="User:Kevinhksouth">Kevinhksouth</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kevinhksouth" title="User talk:Kevinhksouth">(Talk)</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB#c-Kevinhksouth-2008-03-20T03:34:00.000Z-218.103.216.152-2008-03-19T14:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年3月20日 (四) 03:34 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kevinhksouth-2008-03-20T03:34:00.000Z-218.103.216.152-2008-03-19T14:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kevinhksouth-2008-03-20T03:34:00.000Z-218.103.216.152-2008-03-19T14:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-218.102.238.44-2008-03-21T02:31:00.000Z-Kevinhksouth-2008-03-20T03:34:00.000Z"></span>該IP用戶似乎較希望有人關注條目「低地台巴士」的內容。另外大家可以看看在2008年2月16日前的大部分時間，<a class="external text" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E5%85%AC%E5%85%B1%E6%B1%BD%E8%BB%8A&oldid=6214800">公共汽車</a>、<a class="external text" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB&oldid=6230629">低地台巴士</a>對「低地台巴士」有不同的解釋（另參見<a href="/wiki/%E7%89%B9%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB" title="特低地台巴士">特低地台巴士</a>），究竟哪一個才是正確呢？<a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/218.102.238.44" title="Special:用户贡献/218.102.238.44">218.102.238.44</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:218.102.238.44&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:218.102.238.44（页面不存在）">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB#c-218.102.238.44-2008-03-21T02:31:00.000Z-Kevinhksouth-2008-03-20T03:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年3月21日 (五) 02:31 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-218.102.238.44-2008-03-21T02:31:00.000Z-Kevinhksouth-2008-03-20T03:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-218.102.238.44-2008-03-21T02:31:00.000Z-Kevinhksouth-2008-03-20T03:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z-低地台巴士_=_低床巴士？"></span>以我所知，低床巴士是個日本名詞，是指地台低的巴士，但沒有說明它是否無梯級巴士。在香港三十多年前已有雙層巴士（Fleetline）的入口不設梯級，但它的地台是斜的，起碼大半架車的地台並不低（所以才有IP用戶寫『不接受「丹拿珍寶是低地台巴士始祖」』這個說法）。這種 no-step bus 應不屬於低地台巴士。「超低地台巴士」或「特低地台巴士」則是指由1997/98年開始，巴士公司引入了可安裝輪椅斜板的巴士（當時部分城巴巴士沒有安裝輪椅斜板，但如果說這是城巴稱那些巴士只為「低地台巴士」的話，則並無如此根據。）另外不能排除不時見於文件中的「低地台巴士」，只是「超低地台巴士」的縮略詞。--<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sl" title="User talk:Sl"><big>✉</big>Hello World!</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB#c-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z-低地台巴士_=_低床巴士？" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年3月26日 (三) 18:17 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z-低地台巴士_=_低床巴士？"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z-低地台巴士_=_低床巴士？"></span> </p> <ul><li><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kftsang_hk-2008-04-23T16:54:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z"></span>名稱可能出現爭議，但能夠肯定的是，「低地台巴士」和「特低地台巴士」是不盡相同的東西，不能混為一談，反而可以考慮在條目內，闡釋清楚名稱上的分別。--<a href="/wiki/User:Kftsang_hk" title="User:Kftsang hk">Kenneth Tsang</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kftsang_hk" title="User talk:Kftsang hk">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB#c-Kftsang_hk-2008-04-23T16:54:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年4月23日 (三) 16:54 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kftsang_hk-2008-04-23T16:54:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kftsang_hk-2008-04-23T16:54:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-219.79.107.178-2008-04-24T13:06:00.000Z-Kftsang_hk-2008-04-23T16:54:00.000Z"></span>在<a class="mw-selflink selflink">Talk:低地台巴士</a>已有人建議把條目「低地台巴士」更名為「低床巴士」，再把「特低地台巴士」更名為「低地台巴士」。 <a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/219.79.107.178" title="Special:用户贡献/219.79.107.178">219.79.107.178</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:219.79.107.178&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:219.79.107.178（页面不存在）">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB#c-219.79.107.178-2008-04-24T13:06:00.000Z-Kftsang_hk-2008-04-23T16:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年4月24日 (四) 13:06 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-219.79.107.178-2008-04-24T13:06:00.000Z-Kftsang_hk-2008-04-23T16:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-219.79.107.178-2008-04-24T13:06:00.000Z-Kftsang_hk-2008-04-23T16:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-219.79.107.178-2008-04-24T13:06:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z"></span>「低地台巴士」是不是「超低地台巴士」的縮略詞有需要繼續研究。另外在<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.csb.gov.hk/hkgcsb/glossary/glossary_detail.php?viewcode=Transport&abcorder=L&page=32">香港政府公務員事務局可找到「設有斜坡台的低地台雙層巴士」一詞</a>（網頁內有英文名稱對照），而本人未曾聽聞一些登車門有梯級的香港雙層（尤其是專利）巴士設有「輪椅升降台」。<a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/219.79.107.178" title="Special:用户贡献/219.79.107.178">219.79.107.178</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:219.79.107.178&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:219.79.107.178（页面不存在）">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB#c-219.79.107.178-2008-04-24T13:06:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年4月24日 (四) 13:06 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-219.79.107.178-2008-04-24T13:06:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-219.79.107.178-2008-04-24T13:06:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lokionly-2008-04-01T01:49:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z"></span>現時這個條目主要由ip用戶（浮動ip，未知是否同一人）及<a href="/wiki/User:Kftsang_hk" title="User:Kftsang hk">Kftsang hk</a>兩個人因未能進行討論並多次回退對方編輯而被保護，請各位關注巴士類條目的用戶協助討論。—<a href="/wiki/User:Lokionly" title="User:Lokionly"><font color="#6666FF">Ｌｏｋｉ</font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lokionly" title="User talk:Lokionly"><sup><font color="#66CC66">Talk</font></sup></a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB#c-Lokionly-2008-04-01T01:49:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年4月1日 (二) 01:49 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lokionly-2008-04-01T01:49:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lokionly-2008-04-01T01:49:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-220.246.192.145-2008-04-21T14:25:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z"></span>經進一步搜尋，原來九巴<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.kmb.hk/chi/search/busfare.pdf">1</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.kmb.hk/chinese.php?page=next&file=news/service/news1q05/news2005020803.html">2</a>及新巴<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nwfb.com.hk/flash/chi/gallery/slide.swf">（Flash檔案）</a>的官方網頁也有將無梯級巴士稱為「低地台巴士」。</dd></dl> <dl><dd>而條目「低地台巴士」形容"low-floor bus"的登車門大多數只有一級同樣有問題。英文維基百科條目解釋<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_floor" class="extiw" title="en:Low floor">en:Low floor</a>的車輛的車門沒有梯級（Talk:低地台巴士已有提及），而九巴<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.kmb.hk/eng/search/busfare.pdf">1</a>及新巴<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nwfb.com.hk/eng/quality/q_facilities04c.asp">1</a>這兩間將無梯級巴士稱為"super low floor bus"的巴士公司的官方網頁也有採用（當然<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.google.com.hk/search?as_q=&complete=1&hl=zh-TW&num=30&btnG=Google+%E6%90%9C%E5%B0%8B&as_epq=low+floor&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&cr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=www.citybus.com.hk&as_rights=&safe=images">城巴官方網頁</a>都有）。而且有部分地區已經有"step entrance"一詞形容車門有梯級的巴士。</dd></dl> <dl><dd>另外在去年2月曾經有維基人向條目「低地台巴士」作出跟今年2月中的那一次十分相似的改動（把條目「低地台巴士」的內容以「特低地台巴士」的取代，<a class="external text" href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB&action=history">可見條目「低地台巴士」的編輯歷史</a>），如有需要可以邀請那位維基人參與是次討論。</dd></dl> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/220.246.192.145" title="Special:用户贡献/220.246.192.145">220.246.192.145</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:220.246.192.145&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:220.246.192.145（页面不存在）">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB#c-220.246.192.145-2008-04-21T14:25:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年4月21日 (一) 14:25 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-220.246.192.145-2008-04-21T14:25:00.000Z-Sl-2008-03-26T18:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span 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href="http://www.nwstbus.com.hk/content/default.aspx?intLangID=1&section=routes&page=getOnCityflyer">5</a></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>P.S. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www26.discuss.com.hk/redirect.php?tid=6891606&goto=lastpost">某討論區也有與此有關的討論</a>，有人認同現時條目「低地台巴士」及「特低地台巴士」的內容，但問題是新巴有沒有把登車門只有一級的巴士視為「低地台」？</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/219.79.107.156" title="Special:用户贡献/219.79.107.156">219.79.107.156</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:219.79.107.156&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:219.79.107.156（页面不存在）">留言</a>) <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB#c-219.79.107.156-2008-04-23T11:49:00.000Z-220.246.192.145-2008-04-21T14:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年4月23日 (三) 11:49 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年4月23日 (三) 16:48 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kftsang_hk-2008-04-23T16:48:00.000Z-219.79.107.156-2008-04-23T11:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">回复</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kftsang_hk-2008-04-23T16:48:00.000Z-219.79.107.156-2008-04-23T11:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="低地台" data-mw-thread-id="h-低地台-2008-07-15T18:00:00.000Z"><span id=".E4.BD.8E.E5.9C.B0.E5.8F.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-低地台-2008-07-15T18:00:00.000Z"></span>低地台<span data-mw-comment-end="h-低地台-2008-07-15T18:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB&action=edit&section=4" title="编辑章节：低地台"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chou0416-2008-07-15T18:00:00.000Z-低地台"></span>是否應該是統一稱為低地台，而細分為低入口及超低地台兩種呢？（台灣有降大樑低底盤和無大樑低底盤兩種，只是低底盤多指後者)--<a href="/wiki/User:Chou0416" title="User:Chou0416">蒼空　翔</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chou0416" title="User talk:Chou0416">有事找我</a> <a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:%E4%BD%8E%E5%9C%B0%E5%8F%B0%E5%B7%B4%E5%A3%AB#c-Chou0416-2008-07-15T18:00:00.000Z-低地台" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2008年7月15日 (二) 18:00 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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