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Hopefully that resolves the misunderstanding.<br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>I considered the feedback of Dalas on Marshal's stats and made changes with it in mind.</div></blockquote> Yes, I've noticed that you seem to respond when Dalas does not approve your PRs (and rely on his approval mostly), and pretty much disregard other people.<br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>intractability</div></blockquote> Now that's a funny word you use here, I agree that such statement would be far-fetched, yet the semantic implications are amusing.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p694635" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile694635"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140528&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./../download/file.php?avatar=140528_1497022037.jpg" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140528&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" class="username">igorbat99</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=140528&sr=posts&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950">109</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> October 6th, 2015, 11:41 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content694635"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=694635&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694635">Re: The need for a Balance Team</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&p=694635&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=694635&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694635" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140528&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" class="username">igorbat99</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-11-10T19:25:52+00:00">November 10th, 2024, 7:25 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">> so implying that's all is outrageous.<br> As you could see from the Mech post above - there are some more lies you have spread. Add +1 (for this quote) to revealed lies counter, total is 4 already(me, dwarf, mech, implication)<br> <br> statements: <some conspiracy regarding stats changes> + I see no such era in the earlier version. <br> Facts: Afterlife was using in-game modifications to change units. So your claim is one more time showing your inability to perform your homework. Afterlife was far away from default even on 1.16. <br> <br> > That in itself shows, that 1.18 in his opinion affected Afterlife enough, to make him consider a revert. <br> Just a plain wrong statement and self-exposure of being out-of-context of AfterLife situation. One more time - afterlife bot was using custom modification to units stats even at 1.16.<br> <br> > That, in combination with the fact that he considers 1.16 stats a better option, would support my theory, that dwarftough takes his add-on as having more priority than the rest of the game - and that he's disinterested in making any serious changes (on a side note, a lot of changes from 1.16 listed in Afterlife Rated forum thread are suprisingly similar in spirit to Hejnewar's ideas for 1.18/1.20 that got much backlash)<br> <br> Conspiracy theory is something you have to leave to your fellow friends, not to expose in public, especially with public personal attack on Community Manager. You could just ask him, as I did. He mentioned “I was always against balancing mainline in such a way so AfterLife would be played better”. As it comes to “why 1.16” - “the AfterLife Rated just lives at its own pace.” - as you could see there is no “revert 1.18”, this is just the same experience we had at 1.16 AfterLife plus new balance changes – just at its own pace.<br> This is just a lie and personal attack: “<strong class="text-strong">dwarftough takes his add-on as having more priority than the rest of the game</strong>”, I don’t see how you get that. Revealed lies counter = 5.<br> <br> > that he's disinterested in making any serious changes <br> In 1.18 AfterLife Rated received 2 completely new units, one is not even from the core game. This is definitely a serious change. So, you just lied again. Revealed lies counter = 6.<br> <br> > counted by number of posts<br> > does my search miss something else of importance?<br> Interesting metric. Especially as you mentioned “players”. What do players do? Write posts in small portion of discord servers, forums and github Jarom knows about. <br> I know you did not search through russian-speaking wesnoth discords or wesnoth matchmaking discord, so even by your own metric you definitely did not do enough.<br> For sure, your homework misses quite a lot. You could start with finding out the actual amount of games being played under the nickname “X” on the 1.18 server. You could try to find out who was working on which events and what was the event outcome.<br> <br> > I know of no way of verifying your server community engagement in multiplayer other than checking that you have played the game<br> That's a pity. I would recommend starting with replays.wesnoth.org <br> <br> So, to sum up: spreading lies about good creators and players, spreading conspiracies against PC member.<br> Spreading any conspiracies regarding the most successful MP Wesnoth event - is hilarious itself.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p694641" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile694641"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138697&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./../download/file.php?avatar=138697_1494103771.png" width="60" height="75" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138697&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" class="username">Jarom</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=138697&sr=posts&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950">123</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 4th, 2015, 8:23 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Green Isle, Irdya or Poland, Earth - I'm not quite sure</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content694641"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=694641&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694641">Re: The need for a Balance Team</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&p=694641&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=694641&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694641" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138697&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" class="username">Jarom</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-11-10T20:11:09+00:00">November 10th, 2024, 8:11 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Facts: Afterlife was using in-game modifications to change units. So your claim is one more time showing your inability to perform your homework. Afterlife was far away from default even on 1.16. </div></blockquote> Fact: using in-game modification of certain units only makes them directly susceptible to changes in mainline, as claimed.<br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Just a plain wrong statement and self-exposure of being out-of-context of AfterLife situation. One more time - afterlife bot was using custom modification to units stats even at 1.16.</div></blockquote> Again - I see no contradiction with my words - just a bunch of insults added.<br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Conspiracy theory is something you have to leave to your fellow friends, not to expose in public, especially with public personal attack on Community Manager. You could just ask him, as I did. He mentioned “I was always against balancing mainline in such a way so AfterLife would be played better”. As it comes to “why 1.16” - “the AfterLife Rated just lives at its own pace.” - as you could see there is no “revert 1.18”, this is just the same experience we had at 1.16 AfterLife plus new balance changes – just at its own pace.</div></blockquote> Again, I don't see how your statement contradicts mine or substantially differ from what you said earlier. The statement you attribute to him is, as I read it:<br> Mainline be kept (or changed) in a way that improves Afterlife experience.<br> and I read creation of separate era instead of modification as clear sign, that he does not want new mainline changes affecting Afterlife anymore (as evident from presumably his other statement just presented by you), which together with the statement earlier about what he sees the goals of mainline balance as, leads to the conclusion: no changes to AfterLife, and no changes to mainline.<br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>“dwarftough takes his add-on as having more priority than the rest of the game”, I don’t see how you get that</div></blockquote> this partial quote of yours ommited, that I inferred those words from the statement you presented, which I see as claim that mainline balance is subservient to Afterlife experience<br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>In 1.18 AfterLife Rated received 2 completely new units, one is not even from the core game. This is definitely a serious change.</div></blockquote> If adding 2 units is considered serious, then I guess you went catatonic mainline added like... 13 or so? on top of all other changes.<br> (For the record, this is greatly exaggerated. I don't really think seeing more new units added is usually a cause of serious medical state.)<br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>I know you did not search through russian-speaking wesnoth discords or wesnoth matchmaking discord, so even by your own metric you definitely did not do enough.</div></blockquote> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>global community</div></blockquote> XD<br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>For sure, your homework misses quite a lot. You could start with finding out the actual amount of games being played under the nickname “X” on the 1.18 server. You could try to find out who was working on which events and what was the event outcome.</div></blockquote> If you happen to have such data handy, please do compile it for the relevant people in the span of last year, preferably with a method that allows easy reproduction of your results. In other words, enlighten me what am I missing that you find relevant in that data.<br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>That's a pity. I would recommend starting with replays.wesnoth.org </div></blockquote> You expect me to... what exactly? Like I said, that allows me to measure if you have played the game on official server recently, and little more of relevance. I don't really doubt that you have played the game in the last year, even though I have not checked that.<br> <br> Basically you claim to be outraged that I said that you don't show much easily traceable engagement on global community recently - but you offer no proofs otherwise and just tell me to redo my research because... why exactly?<br> <br> And the parts where you claim you find lies, well now that's either a gross lie on your part or you genuinely can't tell a lie from something you disagree with.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p694643" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile694643"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=187205&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">dwarftough</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=187205&sr=posts&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950">547</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> August 4th, 2019, 5:27 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-contact"> <strong>Contact:</strong> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-left"> <a href="#" class="dropdown-trigger" title="Contact dwarftough"> <i class="icon fa-commenting-o fa-fw icon-lg" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Contact dwarftough</span> </a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <div class="dropdown-contents contact-icons"> <div> <a href="https://github.com/Discontinuum" title="Website" class="last-cell"> <span class="contact-icon phpbb_website-icon">Website</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content694643"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=694643&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694643">Re: The need for a Balance Team</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&p=694643&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=694643&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694643" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=187205&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">dwarftough</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-11-10T21:08:53+00:00">November 10th, 2024, 9:08 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">So, I think it is useful to clarify a bit my stance on Afterlife and balance.<br> <br> Afterlife Era was created because 1.18 changed a lot and it wasn't possible anymore to use modifications only. Using 1.18 default era would invalidate the balancing work done in Afterlife 1.16 so far for no good reason. So I made an era with base 1.16 Afterlife stats and made some changes based on the year's stats. I was considering creating the era back in 1.16 because the amount of changes started to grow and wasn't reflected in the in-game help.<br> <blockquote cite="./../viewtopic.php?p=694620&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694620"><div><cite><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138697&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950">Jarom</a> wrote: <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=694620&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694620" data-post-id="694620" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">November 10th, 2024, 9:35 am</span></cite> dwarftough - now that's an interesting case, on the front he has solid relevant credits (Afterlife), and compelling points, but from how little I've seen him write in topic of mainline balance it's hard to probe him - but so far reading between the lines I'm starting to suspect that he's here either to block any changes that would affect Afterlife directly (via base stat change) or indirectly<...> </div></blockquote> The whole point of making the era is to make Afterlife balance separate from mainline balance and allow Afterlife to be balanced at its own pace in its own way. Afterlife is a pretty distinct mode of play which is impacted by vastly different factors compared to the most of other game modes. I wouldn't want to see most of the changes I do to Afterlife Era in mainline. You claim that I would block changes that would affect Afterlife. But I made my era, so no changes in mainline affect Afterlife anymore, and that claim of yours makes absolutely no sense.<br> <br> I also note that this <blockquote cite="./../viewtopic.php?p=694620&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694620"><div><cite><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138697&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950">Jarom</a> wrote: <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=694620&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694620" data-post-id="694620" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">November 10th, 2024, 9:35 am</span></cite> or just to make up numbers as courtesy to his friends he works with (am I reading into this too far? he really said little and is keeping his cards close to his chest and otherwise is ok, I just had trouble placing him on the grounds of little engagement found) </div></blockquote> is just a baseless insinuation. It's completely inappropriate to just drop random accusatory claims about people, and adding "am I reading into this too far?" doesn't make it any more acceptable. If you do so, especially about people you don't really know much, it makes little sense to engage with you in serious discussions with such a gossipy vibe.</div> <div id="sig694643" class="signature">Co-founder and current maintainer of IsarFoundation, Afterlife Rated and overall <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=54861" class="postlink">Wesnoth Autohost Project</a><br> Developer and maintainer of my fork of World Conquest, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=54251" class="postlink">Invincibles Conquest II</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p694644" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile694644"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138697&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./../download/file.php?avatar=138697_1494103771.png" width="60" height="75" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138697&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" class="username">Jarom</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=138697&sr=posts&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950">123</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 4th, 2015, 8:23 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Green Isle, Irdya or Poland, Earth - I'm not quite sure</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content694644"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=694644&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694644">Re: The need for a Balance Team</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&p=694644&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=694644&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694644" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138697&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" class="username">Jarom</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-11-10T21:54:06+00:00">November 10th, 2024, 9:54 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote class="uncited"><div>So, I think it is useful to clarify a bit my stance on Afterlife and balance.<br> <br> Afterlife Era was created because 1.18 changed a lot and it wasn't possible anymore to use modifications only. Using 1.18 default era would invalidate the balancing work done in Afterlife 1.16 so far for no good reason. So I made an era with base 1.16 Afterlife stats and made some changes based on the year's stats. I was considering creating the era back in 1.16 because the amount of changes started to grow and wasn't reflected in the in-game help.</div></blockquote> That makes sense, thanks for proper clarification on Afterlife. Igorbat's quotes did look kinda far-fetched or out of context.<br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>The whole point of making the era is to make Afterlife balance separate from mainline balance and allow Afterlife to be balanced at its own pace in its own way. Afterlife is a pretty distinct mode of play which is impacted by vastly different factors compared to the most of other game modes. I wouldn't want to see most of the changes I do to Afterlife Era in mainline.</div></blockquote> Fair<br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>You claim that I would block changes that would affect Afterlife. But I made my era, so no changes in mainline affect Afterlife anymore, and that claim of yours makes absolutely no sense.</div></blockquote> That's the vibe I got from your recent interaction patterns, as you seem to occasionally drop in to oppose 1.18 changes and 1.20 change proposals - as well as the fact that you seem to be mostly focused on Afterlife. That it's motivated by Afterlife being affected was somewhat a speculation, one of the possibilities I've seen, as noted there - and among other grounded in the fact that 1.18 changes would have affected Afterlife, to which you responded by not including them. I've seen you give little attention (at least publicly) to mainline balance (with Orcish Crossbowman being a notable exception) until time came to select a balance team. If your posts are about Afterlife, and your discord messages are about what you make with mechanical, it's the most probable conclusion that those are your main goals. Especially since Afterlife was your main point in balance self-introduction.<br> TL;DR: Afterlife already has been affected by balance changes in the way that you decided to make a separate era to mitigate them.<br> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>is just a baseless insinuation. It's completely inappropriate to just drop random accusatory claims about people, and adding "am I reading into this too far?" doesn't make it any more acceptable. If you do so, especially about people you don't really know much, it makes little sense to engage with you in serious discussions with such a gossipy vibe.</div></blockquote> Hmm, you're right here - should not have included that speculative part. Though I still don't understand why the recent sudden (one PR and one time voicing support is what I've found - looks quite superficial) surge of interest when influence over project balance started to be at stake, all while you don't seem to often engage in that.<br> <br> Also you have not referred to igorbat's supposed quote of you saing about your balance principles being Afterlife-related. Dunno if I should interpret that as dodging an issue.<br> <br> EDIT: I've amended original post to exclude the speculation.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p694685" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile694685"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140528&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./../download/file.php?avatar=140528_1497022037.jpg" width="100" height="100" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140528&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" class="username">igorbat99</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=140528&sr=posts&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950">109</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> October 6th, 2015, 11:41 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content694685"> <h3 > <a href="./../viewtopic.php?p=694685&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694685">Re: The need for a Balance Team</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&p=694685&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../viewtopic.php?p=694685&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950#p694685" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=140528&sid=af7c3c41f3fc5b2f0ef97f3b29dcd950" class="username">igorbat99</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-11-12T21:16:26+00:00">November 12th, 2024, 9:16 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">@Jarom<br> >if adding 2 units is considered serious, then I guess you went catatonic mainline added like... 13 or so?<br> <br> When you do comparisson, you have to compare right things, not the wrong things. This is not only about the right values, but also about taking the right data. If you would like to compare "AfterLife Rated" experience and default era experience between versions, then<br> in the AfterLife Rated experince you could get 8 new units, 2 of them are recruitable<br> in the Default era experince you could get 3 new units, 0 of them are recruitable<br> <br> But if you insists on mainline, here are some facts: <br> mainline received about 29 new units. Some of them are not in use in 1.18 out-of-the-box Wesnoth. It is indistinguishable from "they do not exist", you couldn't actually face them in the out-of-the-box game experience.<br> <br> Some links:<br> mainline:<br> <a href="https://units.wesnoth.org/1.16/mainline/en_US/mainline.html" class="postlink">https://units.wesnoth.org/1.16/mainline ... nline.html</a><br> <a href="https://units.wesnoth.org/1.18/mainline/en_US/mainline.html" class="postlink">https://units.wesnoth.org/1.18/mainline ... nline.html</a><br> <br> default era:<br> <a href="https://units.wesnoth.org/1.16/mainline/en_US/era_default.html" class="postlink">https://units.wesnoth.org/1.16/mainline ... fault.html</a><br> <a href="https://units.wesnoth.org/1.18/mainline/en_US/era_default.html" class="postlink">https://units.wesnoth.org/1.18/mainline ... fault.html</a><br> <br> AfterLife era:<br> <a href="https://units.wesnoth.org/1.18/Afterlife_Era/en_US/Afterlife_era_default.html" class="postlink">https://units.wesnoth.org/1.18/Afterlif ... fault.html</a><br> <br> <br> If you would like to have a proper comparison - here is an example:<br> Wesnoth Matchmaking Discord Server has about 280 participants including bots and double+ accounts.<br> UMC Guild Discord Server has about 152 participants including bots and double+ accounts.<br> 280 is about twice more than 152, so it is "more global", while you were definitely using UMC Guild in your research.<br> <br> Using your own words, "then I guess you went catatonic" reading this. Still you claimed "igorbat - seems to be much less active in global community", while you actually haven't properly checked a global community -- obviously official discord server + forum + wesnoth/wesnoth github are not enough.<br> So you were basically caught red-handed multiple times making wrong statements or statements you couldn't vouch for.<br> <br> P.S.<br> As it comes to the global russian-speaking community ( I get it from Polish perspective - your language is not popular, but Russian is actually in the top-10 of the most popular languages in the world. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_language" class="postlink">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_language</a> ), WesnothLife was a global wesnoth-related community since its early years. It had active players from USA, UK and Finnland those days. 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