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href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung" title="User talk:Kudpung">User talk:Kudpung</a></bdi></div></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Turskellies" data-mw-thread-id="h-Turskellies-2015-06-03T06:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Turskellies-2015-06-03T06:40:00.000Z"></span>Turskellies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Turskellies-2015-06-03T06:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Turskellies"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div 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You just commented on the page I created: Rosie Fellner. I'd welcome any advice on how to clean it up a little. What do you suggest? Thanks so much!!! <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Turskellies" title="User:Turskellies">Turskellies</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Turskellies" title="User talk:Turskellies">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Turskellies" title="Special:Contributions/Turskellies">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Turskellies-2015-06-03T06:40:00.000Z-Turskellies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:40, 3 June 2015 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Turskellies-2015-06-03T06:40:00.000Z-Turskellies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Turskellies-2015-06-03T06:40:00.000Z-Turskellies"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-03T07:41:00.000Z-Turskellies-2015-06-03T06:40:00.000Z"></span>Hi. I've cleaned up a lot of it - when you make Wikilinks you do not need to type the word twice. However, you must decide what are external sources and what are references - a lot of the content needs to be sourced because although the subject is a notable actress, unsourced information can, and probably will be, deleted. Check out the tags and see how to clean uo those naked URLs. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-03T07:41:00.000Z-Turskellies-2015-06-03T06:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:41, 3 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-03T07:41:00.000Z-Turskellies-2015-06-03T06:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-03T07:41:00.000Z-Turskellies-2015-06-03T06:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Turskellies-2015-06-04T09:02:00.000Z-Turskellies"></span>Thanks for your help, Kudpung. I am still learning about how to make a better Wikipedia page. All the info I have about Rosie Fellner can be found in those links, so I guess they are all references...except for the main page for Bite The Ballot. Her contribution to that organization is found in the interview about her. I will keep my eyes peeled for future references/interviews/articles to add in the future. In the mean time, I'll take a look at how you structured the references. Thanks so much! <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Turskellies" title="User:Turskellies">Turskellies</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Turskellies" title="User talk:Turskellies">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Turskellies" title="Special:Contributions/Turskellies">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Turskellies-2015-06-04T09:02:00.000Z-Turskellies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:02, 4 June 2015 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Turskellies-2015-06-04T09:02:00.000Z-Turskellies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Turskellies-2015-06-04T09:02:00.000Z-Turskellies"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="hi" data-mw-thread-id="h-hi-2015-06-03T13:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-hi-2015-06-03T13:02:00.000Z"></span>hi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-hi-2015-06-03T13:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: hi"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:02:00.000Z-hi"></span>I just had an ANI against me <b>withdrawn</b> and id like to discuss something, I would need an administrator thank you--<a href="/wiki/User:Ozzie10aaaa" title="User:Ozzie10aaaa">Ozzie10aaaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ozzie10aaaa" title="User talk:Ozzie10aaaa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:02:00.000Z-hi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:02, 3 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:02:00.000Z-hi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:02:00.000Z-hi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-03T13:13:00.000Z-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:02:00.000Z"></span>OK, <a href="/wiki/User:Ozzie10aaaa" title="User:Ozzie10aaaa">Ozzie10aaaa</a>. So I have read the ANI report already. How can I help? --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-03T13:13:00.000Z-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 3 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-03T13:13:00.000Z-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-03T13:13:00.000Z-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:02:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:20:00.000Z-hi"></span>1 why was it brought to ANI (when all I did was answer a few questions and then withdrawn?</dd> <dd>2 why by <b>ooincidense</b> is the editor that I <b>banned</b> last week from my talk page (<b></b></dd></dl> <p>as cited in the ANI<b> with link), commenting next to the person who brought the ANI in the first place (I had never been brought here)? </b>coincidence<b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Ozzie10aaaa" title="User:Ozzie10aaaa">Ozzie10aaaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ozzie10aaaa" title="User talk:Ozzie10aaaa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:20:00.000Z-hi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 3 June 2015 (UTC)</a></b><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:20:00.000Z-hi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:20:00.000Z-hi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-03T13:24:00.000Z-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:20:00.000Z"></span>Sorry,<a href="/wiki/User:Ozzie10aaaa" title="User:Ozzie10aaaa">Ozzie10aaaa</a>, but I have no idea. For answers to these questions you will need to ask the people concerned. However, in your situation it might be best to just let it go. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-03T13:24:00.000Z-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 3 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-03T13:24:00.000Z-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-03T13:24:00.000Z-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:26:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-03T13:24:00.000Z"></span>ok, thank you--<a href="/wiki/User:Ozzie10aaaa" title="User:Ozzie10aaaa">Ozzie10aaaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ozzie10aaaa" title="User talk:Ozzie10aaaa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:26:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-03T13:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 3 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:26:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-03T13:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ozzie10aaaa-2015-06-03T13:26:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-03T13:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User_scripts" data-mw-thread-id="h-User_scripts-2015-06-04T12:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User_scripts-2015-06-04T12:39:00.000Z"></span>User scripts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User_scripts-2015-06-04T12:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: User scripts"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T12:39:00.000Z-User_scripts"></span>Hi Kudpung, I'm replying here instead of at AN as I thought that probably not everyone in the project needed to know about the intricacies of your vector.js page. :) After a very cursory look at <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung/vector.js" title="User:Kudpung/vector.js">User:Kudpung/vector.js</a>, I am guessing that while your scripts worked for you when you installed them, a combination of changes in the scripts themselves and changes in MediaWiki have resulted in one or more JavaScript errors occurring every time you load a page. Depending on the circumstances, one JavaScript error could prevent all your gadgets from running, so that would explain why your scripts haven't been working. I can see a few things that need changing just by glancing over the code, but I'll take a more thorough look through it to see if I can get it working properly and then get back to you with my findings. — <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User:Mr. Stradivarius"><span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span></a></b></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User talk:Mr. Stradivarius">♪ talk ♪</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T12:39:00.000Z-User_scripts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 4 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T12:39:00.000Z-User_scripts"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T12:39:00.000Z-User_scripts"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T13:02:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T12:39:00.000Z"></span>In fact, I didn't even have to save the page to find out the reason that your scripts aren't running at all - there's a JavaScript error right in your vector.js file itself. The problem is that you're trying to comment something out with an HTML comment like <code></code>, but that type of comment is a syntax error in JavasScript files. Instead, you need to make comments that look like <code>/* code goes here */</code>. I've tested that in my own vector.js and I got a lot of extra links suddenly, so it looks like that was your main problem, and I've fixed it <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AKudpung%2Fvector.js&type=revision&diff=665465367&oldid=665270576">here</a>. If you notice anything else specifically not working, give me a shout and I'll look into it. Best — <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User:Mr. Stradivarius"><span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span></a></b></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User talk:Mr. Stradivarius">♪ talk ♪</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T13:02:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T12:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:02, 4 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T13:02:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T12:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T13:02:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T12:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-04T13:41:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T13:02:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User:Mr. Stradivarius">Strad</a>. Thank you enormously for doing this for me. I'll check through all the scripts in the morning and if there is anything still not working I'll take you up on your kind offer. Cheers, --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-04T13:41:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T13:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 4 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-04T13:41:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T13:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-04T13:41:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-04T13:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-07T14:37:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-04T13:41:00.000Z"></span>As per the AN thread, I've had a big ol' prune of <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung/vector.js" title="User:Kudpung/vector.js">User:Kudpung/vector.js</a>, and it is now looking far leaner. I've removed Twinkle and the DRN script because they are global gadgets, and they should be loaded via preferences rather than through your vector.js page. I also removed a few duplicate entries, and scripts that pointed to Toolserver tools that no longer work. I also removed the old Delsort script, as it doesn't work, and you have Fox Wilson's new script installed anyway. Let me know if anything that you really need has gone, and I'll investigate. Also, although the page is simpler, it's not a guarantee that all the scripts that you load will work. Some of them may need updating before they will play nicely with changes in MediaWiki. — <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User:Mr. Stradivarius"><span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span></a></b></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User talk:Mr. Stradivarius">♪ talk ♪</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-07T14:37:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-04T13:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 7 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-07T14:37:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-04T13:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-07T14:37:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-04T13:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Quarl/wikipage.js" title="User:Quarl/wikipage.js"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NQ-test-2015-06-07T14:51:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-07T14:37:00.000Z"></span>User:Quarl/wikipage.js</a> was the script that caused issues with popups and <a href="/wiki/User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js" title="User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js">User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js</a> does not work anymore. Everything else seems fine. <a href="/wiki/User:NQ-test" title="User:NQ-test">NQ-test</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NQ-test" title="User talk:NQ-test">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-NQ-test-2015-06-07T14:51:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-07T14:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 7 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NQ-test-2015-06-07T14:51:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-07T14:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NQ-test-2015-06-07T14:51:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-07T14:37:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-08T03:06:00.000Z-NQ-test-2015-06-07T14:51:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:NQ-test" title="User:NQ-test">NQ-test</a>:</span> I just tested <a href="/wiki/User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js" title="User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js">User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js</a>, and it's working for me. Did you get any error messages? — <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User:Mr. Stradivarius"><span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span></a></b></i> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User talk:Mr. Stradivarius">♪ talk ♪</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-08T03:06:00.000Z-NQ-test-2015-06-07T14:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:06, 8 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-08T03:06:00.000Z-NQ-test-2015-06-07T14:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-08T03:06:00.000Z-NQ-test-2015-06-07T14:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NQ-2015-06-08T08:26:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-08T03:06:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User:Mr. Stradivarius">Mr. Stradivarius</a>:</span> Odd. Now loading without any issues. - <a href="/wiki/User:NQ" title="User:NQ"><b>NQ</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:NQ" title="User talk:NQ"><small>(talk)</small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-NQ-2015-06-08T08:26:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-08T03:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:26, 8 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NQ-2015-06-08T08:26:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-08T03:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NQ-2015-06-08T08:26:00.000Z-Mr._Stradivarius-2015-06-08T03:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-09T01:00:00.000Z-NQ-2015-06-08T08:26:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User:Mr. Stradivarius">Mr. Stradivarius</a>:</span>, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:NQ-test" title="User:NQ-test">NQ-test</a>:</span>, TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js is redundant with the new New page Feed that was launched 2 years ago, Theoretially nobody should be working from the old new Pages list aLOTHOUGH I BELIEVE IT IS STILL OPERATIONAL. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-09T01:00:00.000Z-NQ-2015-06-08T08:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:00, 9 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-09T01:00:00.000Z-NQ-2015-06-08T08:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-09T01:00:00.000Z-NQ-2015-06-08T08:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-11T09:32:00.000Z-NQ-2015-06-08T08:26:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mr._Stradivarius" title="User:Mr. Stradivarius">Mr. Stradivarius</a>:</span>, I belive all my scripts are working now. I spent yesterday wotking on AfD backlogs. I belive the script has a problem: when one selects 'relist' it enters the relist line on the AfD page twice. Not a big problem but if someone has time to fix it. Thanks again for all your help. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-11T09:32:00.000Z-NQ-2015-06-08T08:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 11 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-11T09:32:00.000Z-NQ-2015-06-08T08:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-11T09:32:00.000Z-NQ-2015-06-08T08:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Inbox" data-mw-thread-id="h-Inbox-2015-06-07T13:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Inbox-2015-06-07T13:26:00.000Z"></span>Inbox<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Inbox-2015-06-07T13:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Inbox"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Berean_Hunter-2015-06-07T13:26:00.000Z-Inbox"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256396942">.mw-parser-output .umbox{background-color:var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff);border:1px solid var(--border-color-progressive,#36c);padding:0.5em 1em;margin:2em 0 1em;font-weight:bold;overflow:auto;vertical-align:middle}</style> <div class="umbox"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Mail-message-new.svg/40px-Mail-message-new.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Mail-message-new.svg/60px-Mail-message-new.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Mail-message-new.svg/80px-Mail-message-new.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure>Hello, Kudpung. Please check your email – you've got mail! <br/><span class="plainlinks" style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;"> It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit">remove this notice</a> at any time by removing the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:You%27ve_got_mail" title="Template:You've got mail">You've got mail</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> or <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:YGM" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:YGM">YGM</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template.</span></div><p><br/> — <a href="/wiki/User:Berean_Hunter" title="User:Berean Hunter"><span style="font-family:High Tower Text;color:#0000ff;font-weight:900;">Berean Hunter</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Berean_Hunter" title="User talk:Berean Hunter"><span style="font-family:High Tower Text;color:#0000ff;font-weight:900;">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Berean_Hunter-2015-06-07T13:26:00.000Z-Inbox" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 7 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Berean_Hunter-2015-06-07T13:26:00.000Z-Inbox"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Berean_Hunter-2015-06-07T13:26:00.000Z-Inbox"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_Devlin" data-mw-thread-id="h-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_Devlin-2015-06-09T11:14:00.000Z"><span id="https:.2F.2Fen.wikipedia.org.2Fwiki.2FCormac_Devlin"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_Devlin-2015-06-09T11:14:00.000Z"></span><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_Devlin">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_Devlin</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_Devlin-2015-06-09T11:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_Devlin"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:14:00.000Z-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_Devlin"></span>Hello Kudpung, you deleted <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_Devlin%7C">Cormac Devlin</a> the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cormac_Devlin">| discussion</a> was ongoing with a number of contributions listed in the past hour, at least one "delete voter" had indicated they would reconsider if more evidence was presented. This was done. It might be appropriate for some of the contributors who voted "delete" to have an opportunity to consider evidence presented before a final conclusion is reached. Can you reconsider or what are the options? <a href="/wiki/User:Quirinus_X" title="User:Quirinus X">Quirinus X</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Quirinus_X" title="User talk:Quirinus X">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:14:00.000Z-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_Devlin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:14, 9 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:14:00.000Z-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_Devlin"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:14:00.000Z-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_Devlin"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-09T23:35:00.000Z-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:14:00.000Z"></span>Hi Quirinus. The discussion was was past its 'sell by' date by 20 days. I stand by my evaluation of the consensus which at time of closure was 'delete' according to the strength of the arguments presented (which may or may not necessarily be accompanied by one of the bot-recognised emboldened keywords . We are not compelled to keep AfD cases open indefinitely in order to take into account new evidenc/arguments that might be forthcoming. The option is for you to go to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DELREV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DELREV">WP:DELREV</a> - if you find that the closure was in conflict with policy at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AfD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AfD">WP:AfD</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-09T23:35:00.000Z-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:35, 9 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-09T23:35:00.000Z-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-09T23:35:00.000Z-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:46:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-09T23:35:00.000Z"></span>Hi Kudpung thanks for replying, I appreciate the article was there sometime, it had been re-listed a few times to generate a consensus as none existed, but just as one began to emerge today the discussion became closed (it was actually closed minutes after I posted an article two users requested). I think it would be reasonable and fair for WP to allow those who contributed and asked for more information to at least be allowed consider the information before a final decision. Notwithstanding the length of time the debate was open (and I have seen some open for months) given circumstances it seems the closure was premature, I would ask you again to reconsider and at least allow 7 days for people to view evidence. <a href="/wiki/User:Quirinus_X" title="User:Quirinus X">Quirinus X</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Quirinus_X" title="User talk:Quirinus X">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:46:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-09T23:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:46, 9 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:46:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-09T23:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:46:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-09T23:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-10T00:11:00.000Z-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:46:00.000Z"></span>Quirinus, I do understand that you as creator may not wish this article to be deleted but your option now is to take your request to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DELREV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DELREV">WP:DELREV</a>. Regards, --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-10T00:11:00.000Z-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:11, 10 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-10T00:11:00.000Z-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-10T00:11:00.000Z-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:46:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quirinus_X-2015-06-10T00:30:00.000Z-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:46:00.000Z"></span>Ok thanks for considering my request Kudpung. I won't be going down the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DELREV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DELREV">WP:DELREV</a> road (it's too time-consuming and I believe you acted in good faith), if new information arises I'll consider options then. Best <a href="/wiki/User:Quirinus_X" title="User:Quirinus X">Quirinus X</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Quirinus_X" title="User talk:Quirinus X">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Quirinus_X-2015-06-10T00:30:00.000Z-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:30, 10 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quirinus_X-2015-06-10T00:30:00.000Z-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quirinus_X-2015-06-10T00:30:00.000Z-Quirinus_X-2015-06-09T11:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Kunlun_Fight" data-mw-thread-id="h-Kunlun_Fight-2015-06-10T10:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Kunlun_Fight-2015-06-10T10:50:00.000Z"></span>Kunlun Fight<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Kunlun_Fight-2015-06-10T10:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Kunlun Fight"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PRehse-2015-06-10T10:50:00.000Z-Kunlun_Fight"></span>And recreated again this time as <a href="/w/index.php?title=Kunlun_Fight%EF%BC%88kickboxing%EF%BC%89&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kunlun Fight（kickboxing） (page does not exist)">Kunlun Fight（kickboxing）</a>. Db-reposts removed with abusive message on my talk page (removed).<a href="/wiki/User:PRehse" title="User:PRehse">Peter Rehse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PRehse" title="User talk:PRehse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-PRehse-2015-06-10T10:50:00.000Z-Kunlun_Fight" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:50, 10 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PRehse-2015-06-10T10:50:00.000Z-Kunlun_Fight"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PRehse-2015-06-10T10:50:00.000Z-Kunlun_Fight"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:11:00.000Z-PRehse-2015-06-10T10:50:00.000Z"></span>Two 'only warnings': one for repeatedly recreating the salted pages and one for the verbal abuse. One more peep and he's out for the count. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:11:00.000Z-PRehse-2015-06-10T10:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:11, 10 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:11:00.000Z-PRehse-2015-06-10T10:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:11:00.000Z-PRehse-2015-06-10T10:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PRehse-2015-06-10T11:20:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:11:00.000Z"></span>Thanks - normally I don't react so much but ...<a href="/wiki/User:PRehse" title="User:PRehse">Peter Rehse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PRehse" title="User talk:PRehse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-PRehse-2015-06-10T11:20:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:20, 10 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PRehse-2015-06-10T11:20:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PRehse-2015-06-10T11:20:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:27:00.000Z-PRehse-2015-06-10T11:20:00.000Z"></span>...but sometimes you need to <a href="/wiki/User:PRehse" title="User:PRehse">Peter</a>, because it gives me more power to unilaterally stop the disruption without having to go through all the tralala of ANI. Thanks for bringing it to me. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:27:00.000Z-PRehse-2015-06-10T11:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:27, 10 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:27:00.000Z-PRehse-2015-06-10T11:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:27:00.000Z-PRehse-2015-06-10T11:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DMacks-2015-06-10T16:36:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:27:00.000Z"></span>I sent him to sit in his corner for 31h. <a href="/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-DMacks-2015-06-10T16:36:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 10 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DMacks-2015-06-10T16:36:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DMacks-2015-06-10T16:36:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-10T11:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-11T09:25:00.000Z-DMacks-2015-06-10T16:36:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> - I was in bed by then, had to catch a plane early this morning. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-11T09:25:00.000Z-DMacks-2015-06-10T16:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:25, 11 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-11T09:25:00.000Z-DMacks-2015-06-10T16:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-11T09:25:00.000Z-DMacks-2015-06-10T16:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PRehse-2015-06-12T19:23:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-11T09:25:00.000Z"></span>Sigh. <a href="/w/index.php?title=Kunlun_Jue%EF%BC%88Kickboxing%EF%BC%89&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Kunlun Jue（Kickboxing） (page does not exist)">Kunlun Jue（Kickboxing）</a>.<a href="/wiki/User:PRehse" title="User:PRehse">Peter Rehse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PRehse" title="User talk:PRehse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-PRehse-2015-06-12T19:23:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-11T09:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 12 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PRehse-2015-06-12T19:23:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-11T09:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PRehse-2015-06-12T19:23:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-11T09:25:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-12T22:33:00.000Z-PRehse-2015-06-12T19:23:00.000Z"></span>Sent back to his corner again - 1 month. <a href="/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:PRehse" title="User:PRehse">Peter Rehse</a> please watch for block evasion, this guy probably isn't going to give up so easily. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-12T22:33:00.000Z-PRehse-2015-06-12T19:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 12 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-12T22:33:00.000Z-PRehse-2015-06-12T19:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-12T22:33:00.000Z-PRehse-2015-06-12T19:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Community_Change,_inc." data-mw-thread-id="h-Community_Change,_inc.-2015-06-11T15:26:00.000Z"><span id="Community_Change.2C_inc."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Community_Change,_inc.-2015-06-11T15:26:00.000Z"></span>Community Change, inc.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Community_Change,_inc.-2015-06-11T15:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Community Change, inc."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C0l3rs-2015-06-11T15:26:00.000Z-Community_Change,_inc."></span>How does the Community Change, inc. article not demonstrate importance. How can it be made to demonstrate importance? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:C0l3rs&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:C0l3rs (page does not exist)">C0l3rs</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:C0l3rs" title="User talk:C0l3rs">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/C0l3rs" title="Special:Contributions/C0l3rs">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-C0l3rs-2015-06-11T15:26:00.000Z-Community_Change,_inc." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 11 June 2015 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C0l3rs-2015-06-11T15:26:00.000Z-Community_Change,_inc."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C0l3rs-2015-06-11T15:26:00.000Z-Community_Change,_inc."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-11T15:35:00.000Z-C0l3rs-2015-06-11T15:26:00.000Z"></span>I don't know. As you do not appear to have created or edited such an article, and as a search reveals nothing, perhaps you would provide a working link to whatever it is you would like me to examine. And <i>please</i> sign your posts. Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-11T15:35:00.000Z-C0l3rs-2015-06-11T15:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 11 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-11T15:35:00.000Z-C0l3rs-2015-06-11T15:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-11T15:35:00.000Z-C0l3rs-2015-06-11T15:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thanks_for_your_thanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thanks_for_your_thanks-2015-06-11T17:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thanks_for_your_thanks-2015-06-11T17:10:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for your thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thanks_for_your_thanks-2015-06-11T17:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Thanks for your thanks"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Voceditenore-2015-06-11T17:10:00.000Z-Thanks_for_your_thanks"></span>Hi Kudpung! Long time no see <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:SMirC-smile.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/SMirC-smile.svg/25px-SMirC-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/SMirC-smile.svg/38px-SMirC-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/SMirC-smile.svg/50px-SMirC-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="320" data-file-height="320"/></a></span>. Could you do me a favour and keep <a href="/wiki/Arrowsmith_School" title="Arrowsmith School">Arrowsmith School</a> on your watchlist for a while? The talk page there is self-explanatory re that editor's problematic behaviour as are my comments <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Orangemike&oldid=666507529#Suspected_promotional_IP">here</a>. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Voceditenore" title="User:Voceditenore">Voceditenore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Voceditenore" title="User talk:Voceditenore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Voceditenore-2015-06-11T17:10:00.000Z-Thanks_for_your_thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 11 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Voceditenore-2015-06-11T17:10:00.000Z-Thanks_for_your_thanks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Voceditenore-2015-06-11T17:10:00.000Z-Thanks_for_your_thanks"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-12T00:14:00.000Z-Voceditenore-2015-06-11T17:10:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Voceditenore" title="User:Voceditenore">Voce</a>. I read it all already (and the hist) and I'm following the action. I was curious because it's a bit off your usual stamping ground. You're doing extremely well there and it reminded me of a suggestion I made to you a couple of years ago. I don't suppose... <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-12T00:14:00.000Z-Voceditenore-2015-06-11T17:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:14, 12 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-12T00:14:00.000Z-Voceditenore-2015-06-11T17:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-12T00:14:00.000Z-Voceditenore-2015-06-11T17:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Voceditenore-2015-06-12T09:04:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-12T00:14:00.000Z"></span>Yep. Now you know why I prefer long-dead opera singers and the wacky shows they appeared in. I normally avoid anything to do with cognitive psychology or linguistics (my academic background). Who wants a busman's holiday? But I do occasionally venture into that area to rewrite articles, usually via copyright investigations or picked up at ANI where a brouhaha over a particular article has piqued my curiosity. Anyhow, I've pretty much finished re-writing/expanding <a href="/wiki/Arrowsmith_School" title="Arrowsmith School">Arrowsmith School</a>. That talk page is <i>very</i> hard work, though. What with the random socks (one of whom posted harassment on my talk page which had to be oversighted), and the editor who rather fancies themself the owner of the article, despite what I suspect is deep ignorance of the subject. Ugh! I feel a <a href="/wiki/Zenobia_e_Radamisto" title="Zenobia e Radamisto">17th century forgotten opera</a> beckoning me. The whole experience merely confirms why I haven't <i>yet</i> taken up your suggestion. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Voceditenore" title="User:Voceditenore">Voceditenore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Voceditenore" title="User talk:Voceditenore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Voceditenore-2015-06-12T09:04:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-12T00:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:04, 12 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Voceditenore-2015-06-12T09:04:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-12T00:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Voceditenore-2015-06-12T09:04:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-12T00:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination-2015-06-13T00:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination-2015-06-13T00:15:00.000Z"></span>Nomination<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination-2015-06-13T00:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Nomination"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst-2015-06-13T00:15:00.000Z-Nomination"></span>I would like to become an administrator on wikipedia. I have been reading articles on it since 2004 and I am ready to become one.I have edited many edits and imporved vast amounts of articles. However, someone hacked into my previous account and I had to start a new one recently </p><p>So allow me to be an administrator. I will make Wikipedia the best it can be. Thank you <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst" title="User:Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst">Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst" title="User talk:Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst" title="Special:Contributions/Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst-2015-06-13T00:15:00.000Z-Nomination" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:15, 13 June 2015 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst-2015-06-13T00:15:00.000Z-Nomination"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst-2015-06-13T00:15:00.000Z-Nomination"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst" title="User:Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-13T00:49:00.000Z-Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst-2015-06-13T00:15:00.000Z"></span>Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst</a>, this is your only edit. You have a choice: Either (1) go away and stop trolling or be blocked without further warning, or (2) come back under your main account with reasonable behaviour. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-13T00:49:00.000Z-Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst-2015-06-13T00:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:49, 13 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-13T00:49:00.000Z-Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst-2015-06-13T00:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-13T00:49:00.000Z-Jasongeorgeronaldkushnerthefirst-2015-06-13T00:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Userpages_Fix" data-mw-thread-id="h-Userpages_Fix-2015-06-13T11:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Userpages_Fix-2015-06-13T11:11:00.000Z"></span>Userpages Fix<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Userpages_Fix-2015-06-13T11:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Userpages Fix"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheMagikCow-2015-06-13T11:11:00.000Z-Userpages_Fix"></span>Hi Kudpung! Just a quick note to say that I have fixed a broken link on your policy section. It Read [[WP:AFC|] and I presume that it meant <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFC">WP:AFC</a> So I have changed it. If that is a problem just feel free to revert it. <a href="/wiki/User:TheMagikCow" title="User:TheMagikCow">TheMagikCow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheMagikCow" title="User talk:TheMagikCow">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-TheMagikCow-2015-06-13T11:11:00.000Z-Userpages_Fix" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:11, 13 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheMagikCow-2015-06-13T11:11:00.000Z-Userpages_Fix"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheMagikCow-2015-06-13T11:11:00.000Z-Userpages_Fix"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WP_security" data-mw-thread-id="h-WP_security-2015-06-14T13:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WP_security-2015-06-14T13:12:00.000Z"></span>WP security<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WP_security-2015-06-14T13:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: WP security"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:12:00.000Z-WP_security"></span>Hi Kudpung, I get a sense that our concerns about WP security are probably very similar. I see the only solution will have to be the creation of a new class of contributors, what I am now calling "neutrality certified" editors. A new class of proven, established, and "known" editors who would be the only editors allowed to edit, comment, or vote on any "sensitive" topics. Here is what I mean by "known": </p> <ol><li>They would have to somehow prove who the "real person" is to WMF, and that proof would have to be able to be repeatedly re-verified by WMF, at its discretion. Obviously the providing of such proof would be rather arduous, but it could be done. For example, a driver's license scan emailed in accompanied by a Skype face to face talk.</li> <li>They would also have to declare in writing, which ever articles they may be "partial to", and why, and to update this file annually, and these "Partiality Declarations" (PD) would be a matter of public record, available to all editors.</li> <li>They would have to declare in their edit comments on any articles that they are "partial to" that "I have declared my partiality to this article in my public PD".</li></ol> <p>I strongly believe that such a new policy, properly and thoroughly enforced, would once and for all put an end to all of these Paid Editors and IP Gaming problems that we now have to deal with on a minute by minute basis. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Scottperry" title="User:Scottperry">Scott P.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scottperry" title="User talk:Scottperry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:12:00.000Z-WP_security" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:12:00.000Z-WP_security"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:12:00.000Z-WP_security"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-14T13:20:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:12:00.000Z"></span>Good idea in theory, <a href="/wiki/User:Scottperry" title="User:Scottperry">Scott</a>, but you'd never get consensus for it. I am 100% against any form of participation of IPs on RfA, but that's all really. Some of my closest friends, arbs, and crats whom I know well personally on several continents do not agree with me, but on most other things we usually support each other when we're making new policy. <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-14T13:20:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-14T13:20:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-14T13:20:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:33:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T13:20:00.000Z"></span>I agree on that point too. This is a decision that could never be "approved" by a general vote of contributors. Thus the problem. The only way that it could ever succeed would be by a pro-active move on the part of Jimbo Wales and WMF. Jimbo hates to do things like that, but unfortuntely, in this case, I see no other option. I've even broached the topic with Jimbo, and so far he understandably resists. If you look at my recent editing history regarding the E-Meter article, you might begin to get the gist of what is going on. Shortly after I conceded defeat in the E-Meter article, certain editors made a valliant attempt to have me banned from WP for life for my two edits to the E-Meter article. Amazing!! Of course my edits also happened to entirely remove the currently strong pro-Scientology slant of that article, but I'm sure that had nothing to do with their attempting to ban me from WP for life! Unfortunately, probably for security reasons, the entire ANI discussion, where they attempted to ban me, was wiped from public view. Perhaps as an admin, it may still be available to you, I don't know.</dd> <dd>At any rate, I would very much like to pursue this line of thought with you further, as I see that we may have some very mutual interests here.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Thanks,</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Scottperry" title="User:Scottperry">Scott P.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scottperry" title="User talk:Scottperry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:33:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T13:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:33, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:33:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T13:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:33:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T13:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-2015-06-14T14:07:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:33:00.000Z"></span>Not wiped from public view, simply archived as all cases are. It's here: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive888#Proposed_block_of_Scott_P." title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive888">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive888#Proposed block of Scott P.</a>. You can do a name search of all the AN/ANI archives to find relevant cases. <a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><span style="font-family:Papyrus; font-size:large; color:#800080;"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</span></a> <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><b style="color:#006400;"><i>Read!</i></b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><b style="color:#006400;"><i>Talk!</i></b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Liz-2015-06-14T14:07:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:07, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liz-2015-06-14T14:07:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liz-2015-06-14T14:07:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T13:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:10:00.000Z-WP_security"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small>:::<a href="/wiki/User:Scottperry" title="User:Scottperry">Scott</a>, I also know Jimbo (a bit) and several of the senior staff personally quite well (except the new CEO). Don't run away with the idea that they are particularly interested nowadays in what happens on the 300 or so individual Wikipedias and other Foundation projects. Most of what they do these days is develop software, maintain the servers, look after legalmatters, and disseminate the funds (which they don't o very well because there's nobody really in charge of it - at least that's what it looks like), especially on salaries and junkets for the staff, while ensuring that there is no recompense for the volunteers who actually do all the work for free. Jimbo is a great guy but understandably he only takes an occasional glimpse at his talk page and then selectively throws in the occasional comment on something that really interests him or a familiar user name that catches his eye - you might just as well try to get an audience with the queen or the prime minnister; he's just too busy with other stuff to stay glued to a computer screen full of en.Wiki all day like some of us idiots. BTW, ANI cases are never deleted, they are archived but they may not be easy to find unless soeone left you a permalink or you kept one yourself. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:10:00.000Z-WP_security" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:10:00.000Z-WP_security"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:10:00.000Z-WP_security"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T14:34:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:10:00.000Z"></span>Yes Kudpung, I know Jimbo a bit myself. Have corresponded with him over the years many times. I also know about his talk page status. He is truly a great guy, but when he started WP, I think he actually had no idea where it might take him, and the rules of the first few years of the project, that worked well then, may no longer work so well, now that WP has even supplanted Britannica. I did get the Prime Minister's ear in a private correspondence with him on this one, and yes, he did resist. Still, I believe that I may still have the favor of Jimbo to speak once more on this topic with him, but only if I had a significant number of Arbs and Admins on board. Thus this conversation. I've also spoken to poor Roger Davies about this, who slunk away with the exclamation "Way above my pay grade!" :<a href="/wiki/User:Scottperry" title="User:Scottperry">Scott P.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scottperry" title="User talk:Scottperry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T14:34:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T14:34:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T14:34:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T14:40:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:10:00.000Z"></span>PS: I found the record of the ANI talk. Am still learning the ropes around this end of WP. Thanks</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>BTW, I agree wholeheartedly with you that it may also now be the time to start doling out some of those millions to more paid WMF editors too, but only WMF editors who remain absolutely and fully accountable to the rest of us. I believe "transparency" is the operative word here. <a href="/wiki/User:Scottperry" title="User:Scottperry">Scott P.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scottperry" title="User talk:Scottperry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T14:40:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:40, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T14:40:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T14:40:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T14:40:00.000Z"></span>What the WMF should be doing is increasing the scolarship budget so that every one of the 1,000 attendees gets their flight and hotel paid. We've done the math - it wouldn't make a dent in thetens of millions of surplus $$ the WKF doesn't know what to do with. No one should be paid for editing. <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T14:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T14:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T14:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:00:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Right, nobody should get paid for adding "content", but the policing work, done by fully accountable and transparent editors, now that is something that I believe we would do well to start paying for. Why? Because I see some of these "compromised interests" gaining undue authority in WP by providing these services themselves, thus setting up WP for one very bad addiction. I hate to do policing work, and understandably most volunteers do as well. Who ever heard of a city where the cops were all on a volunteer basis? Maybe when WP was small-time, like a tiny village, then that model worked, but not now. <a href="/wiki/User:Scottperry" title="User:Scottperry">Scott P.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scottperry" title="User talk:Scottperry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:00:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:00:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:00:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:08:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z"></span>PS: And once the "log-jam" is broken in WMF finance, scholarships along lines something like that might make imminent sense too. <a href="/wiki/User:Scottperry" title="User:Scottperry">Scott P.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scottperry" title="User talk:Scottperry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:08:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:08:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:08:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:31:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z"></span>Unfortunately, I only have time for one more comment here. Regarding the scholarship proposal, it would seem to me that there are certainly some worthy contributors who deserve to go to the conference, but can't afford any part of the expense, or can't afford some part of the expense. These cases might deserve a scholarship. But I believe that those who could afford it, should probably pay their own way. Otherwise we might get 10,000 contributors howling for a vacation, and WP's image as a non-profit could conceivably come under question. Just my thought on that. I have to go for now. Thanks for your ear. <a href="/wiki/User:Scottperry" title="User:Scottperry">Scott P.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scottperry" title="User talk:Scottperry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:31:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:31:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:31:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-14T14:50:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-15T03:12:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:31:00.000Z"></span>If these matters concern you at all, please at least refer me to somebody whom you might think might be more interested in these matters than yourself. These matters seem pretty important to myself. I don't know about yourself. Whatever input you might be able to provide on this would certainly be most appreciated. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Scottperry" title="User:Scottperry">Scott P.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scottperry" title="User talk:Scottperry">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Scottperry-2015-06-15T03:12:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:12, 15 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scottperry-2015-06-15T03:12:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scottperry-2015-06-15T03:12:00.000Z-Scottperry-2015-06-14T15:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Antonia_Gerena_Rivera" data-mw-thread-id="h-Antonia_Gerena_Rivera-2015-06-14T21:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Antonia_Gerena_Rivera-2015-06-14T21:54:00.000Z"></span>Antonia Gerena Rivera<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Antonia_Gerena_Rivera-2015-06-14T21:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Antonia Gerena Rivera"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Longevitydude-2015-06-14T21:54:00.000Z-Antonia_Gerena_Rivera"></span>Thank you for your wisdom concerning this article. <a href="/wiki/User:Longevitydude" title="User:Longevitydude">Longevitydude</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Longevitydude" title="User talk:Longevitydude">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Longevitydude-2015-06-14T21:54:00.000Z-Antonia_Gerena_Rivera" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 14 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Longevitydude-2015-06-14T21:54:00.000Z-Antonia_Gerena_Rivera"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Longevitydude-2015-06-14T21:54:00.000Z-Antonia_Gerena_Rivera"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Darshan_Raval" data-mw-thread-id="h-Darshan_Raval-2015-06-20T11:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Darshan_Raval-2015-06-20T11:02:00.000Z"></span>Darshan Raval<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Darshan_Raval-2015-06-20T11:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Darshan Raval"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skr15081997-2015-06-20T11:02:00.000Z-Darshan_Raval"></span>I think the subject meets GNG. There were reliable sources discussing him in great detail. He isn't just a runner-up of a singing show. He won the Gujarati Screen & Stage Awards 2014 for best playback singer male for <i><a href="/wiki/Bey_Yaar" title="Bey Yaar">Bey Yaar</a></i>. Besides that he has sung 2 songs for <i>Ek Veer Ki Ardaas...Veera</i>. Another Gujarati film <i><a href="/wiki/Romance_Complicated" title="Romance Complicated">Romance Complicated</a></i> also had his music.--<a href="/wiki/User:Skr15081997" title="User:Skr15081997">Skr15081997</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skr15081997" title="User talk:Skr15081997">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Skr15081997-2015-06-20T11:02:00.000Z-Darshan_Raval" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:02, 20 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skr15081997-2015-06-20T11:02:00.000Z-Darshan_Raval"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skr15081997-2015-06-20T11:02:00.000Z-Darshan_Raval"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Skr15081997" title="User:Skr15081997"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-20T18:21:00.000Z-Skr15081997-2015-06-20T11:02:00.000Z"></span>Skr15081997</a>, I don't see how this involves me. The article has also already been deleted 4 times. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-20T18:21:00.000Z-Skr15081997-2015-06-20T11:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 20 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-20T18:21:00.000Z-Skr15081997-2015-06-20T11:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-20T18:21:00.000Z-Skr15081997-2015-06-20T11:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_of_My_Page_Sachamoti" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_of_My_Page_Sachamoti-2015-06-21T09:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_of_My_Page_Sachamoti-2015-06-21T09:38:00.000Z"></span>Deletion of My Page Sachamoti<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_of_My_Page_Sachamoti-2015-06-21T09:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Deletion of My Page Sachamoti"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gopalsabu-2015-06-21T09:38:00.000Z-Deletion_of_My_Page_Sachamoti"></span>Sir, I have allready mentioned in the page that it not for any commercial use. It is just for Knowledge of Brand in Public Domain that who created the Logo and for What? I am Very sorry that I have given three to four hours to write and upload the paage and Logo. You have just deleted it. I am very sorry to note. What I can Do? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Gopalsabu&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Gopalsabu (page does not exist)">Gopalsabu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gopalsabu" title="User talk:Gopalsabu">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gopalsabu" title="Special:Contributions/Gopalsabu">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Gopalsabu-2015-06-21T09:38:00.000Z-Deletion_of_My_Page_Sachamoti" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 21 June 2015 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gopalsabu-2015-06-21T09:38:00.000Z-Deletion_of_My_Page_Sachamoti"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gopalsabu-2015-06-21T09:38:00.000Z-Deletion_of_My_Page_Sachamoti"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T09:41:00.000Z-Gopalsabu-2015-06-21T09:38:00.000Z"></span>Unfortunately you can't do anything. Your company or organisation does not meet Wikipedia criteria for inclusion in the encyclopedia. An encyclopedia is not a B2B web site for listing companies. Sorry. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T09:41:00.000Z-Gopalsabu-2015-06-21T09:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:41, 21 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T09:41:00.000Z-Gopalsabu-2015-06-21T09:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T09:41:00.000Z-Gopalsabu-2015-06-21T09:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FENDA_AUDIO_INDIA_SPEEDY_DELETION" data-mw-thread-id="h-FENDA_AUDIO_INDIA_SPEEDY_DELETION-2015-06-21T11:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FENDA_AUDIO_INDIA_SPEEDY_DELETION-2015-06-21T11:00:00.000Z"></span>FENDA AUDIO INDIA SPEEDY DELETION<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FENDA_AUDIO_INDIA_SPEEDY_DELETION-2015-06-21T11:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: FENDA AUDIO INDIA SPEEDY DELETION"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T11:00:00.000Z-FENDA_AUDIO_INDIA_SPEEDY_DELETION"></span>HEY, this page is not a promotional one for the company. It's sole purpose is to make its existence aware to the public domain. The references to online sites in the article was to indicate the e-commerce sites relating to the products of the company and not for any advertising needs. Feel free to dereference it if you wish. The company is notable on newspapers like <a href="/wiki/The_Hindu" title="The Hindu">The Hindu</a> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Sorry, but advertorial in the Hindu is still advertising. Please do not advertise your products on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a B2B directory or a link to online shop. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T11:00:00.000Z-FENDA_AUDIO_INDIA_SPEEDY_DELETION" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:00, 21 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T11:00:00.000Z-FENDA_AUDIO_INDIA_SPEEDY_DELETION"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T11:00:00.000Z-FENDA_AUDIO_INDIA_SPEEDY_DELETION"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T11:15:00.000Z-FENDA_AUDIO_INDIA_SPEEDY_DELETION"></span>This page is not for advertisement or commercial purpose. You can edit the article or references to suit wikipedia. </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>The decision is out of my hands now, a group of experienced Wikipedia editors is now discussing whether the artcle should be kept or deleted. The onus is on you to see that it conforms to our notability criteria for companies; you are welcome to do so but it will not stop the deletion discussion. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T11:15:00.000Z-FENDA_AUDIO_INDIA_SPEEDY_DELETION" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 21 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T11:15:00.000Z-FENDA_AUDIO_INDIA_SPEEDY_DELETION"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T11:15:00.000Z-FENDA_AUDIO_INDIA_SPEEDY_DELETION"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tracxn" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tracxn-2015-06-21T12:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tracxn-2015-06-21T12:28:00.000Z"></span>Tracxn<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tracxn-2015-06-21T12:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Tracxn"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iamanjuprasad-2015-06-21T12:28:00.000Z-Tracxn"></span>Hi ! </p><p>I am new at creating wikipedia page. I was trying to create a page named "Tracxn" which I realized has been purged by you quoting "Unambiguous advertising or promotion: & A7. Repeatedly recreated.". </p><p>To assure you, this is not about advertising the company. When I google for a company, I look for a company in search list. When the quickest and summarized information is required, wikipedia is the only destination. I want to include this article about company so that any intended user should get a glimpse of what the company is all about. It will save a lot of time for any new person willing to know about the company. </p><p>Instead of directly purging down the entire page, it's better and wise to advise the new author like us to learn and contribute to the wikipedia. </p><p>I should be provided with "How To" so that I don't repeat mistakes instead of just listing "Why could have my article got purged" </p><p>Regards Anju <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Iamanjuprasad&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Iamanjuprasad (page does not exist)">Iamanjuprasad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iamanjuprasad" title="User talk:Iamanjuprasad">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Iamanjuprasad" title="Special:Contributions/Iamanjuprasad">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Iamanjuprasad-2015-06-21T12:28:00.000Z-Tracxn" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:28, 21 June 2015 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iamanjuprasad-2015-06-21T12:28:00.000Z-Tracxn"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iamanjuprasad-2015-06-21T12:28:00.000Z-Tracxn"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T12:46:00.000Z-Iamanjuprasad-2015-06-21T12:28:00.000Z"></span>Hi. You should really read some of the advice about creating pages and how they must conform to our policies and guidelines and start by learning how we work here first, such as how to take part in the inevitable talk page discussions, making headers, and signing our posts. The reasons for deletion have been provided, the 'how to' you request has been handed to you on your talk page. Please follow all those links and learn how you can contribute effectively to Wikipedia without your articles being deleted, and then you'll get all the extra help you need. <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T12:46:00.000Z-Iamanjuprasad-2015-06-21T12:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:46, 21 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T12:46:00.000Z-Iamanjuprasad-2015-06-21T12:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T12:46:00.000Z-Iamanjuprasad-2015-06-21T12:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_do_not_delete_Dil_Se_Education_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_do_not_delete_Dil_Se_Education_Page-2015-06-21T16:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_do_not_delete_Dil_Se_Education_Page-2015-06-21T16:24:00.000Z"></span>Please do not delete Dil Se Education Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_do_not_delete_Dil_Se_Education_Page-2015-06-21T16:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Please do not delete Dil Se Education Page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naveennairp-2015-06-21T16:24:00.000Z-Please_do_not_delete_Dil_Se_Education_Page"></span>Kudpung, Please restore Dil Se Education page. This is about an NGO who is creating genuine impact in Hyderabad, India, background details please visit the media coverages. This NGO helps underprivileged children with their education in partnership with government in India. </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.facebook.com/Dil.Se.Education.Foundation/photos_stream">https://www.facebook.com/Dil.Se.Education.Foundation/photos_stream</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.facebook.com/Dil.Se.Education.Foundation/photos/pb.1544978525751451.-2207520000.1434903067./1585717988344171/?type=3&theater">https://www.facebook.com/Dil.Se.Education.Foundation/photos/pb.1544978525751451.-2207520000.1434903067./1585717988344171/?type=3&theater</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://epaper.sakshi.com/apnews/Patancheru/12062015/Details.aspx?id=2799092&boxid=26231456">http://epaper.sakshi.com/apnews/Patancheru/12062015/Details.aspx?id=2799092&boxid=26231456</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://epaper.sakshi.com/apnews/Patancheru/12062015/Details.aspx?id=2799091&boxid=26232818">http://epaper.sakshi.com/apnews/Patancheru/12062015/Details.aspx?id=2799091&boxid=26232818</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Naveennairp" title="User:Naveennairp">Naveennairp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naveennairp" title="User talk:Naveennairp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Naveennairp-2015-06-21T16:24:00.000Z-Please_do_not_delete_Dil_Se_Education_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:24, 21 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naveennairp-2015-06-21T16:24:00.000Z-Please_do_not_delete_Dil_Se_Education_Page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naveennairp-2015-06-21T16:24:00.000Z-Please_do_not_delete_Dil_Se_Education_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T16:34:00.000Z-Naveennairp-2015-06-21T16:24:00.000Z"></span>Unfortunately Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a place to seek support for te work of an NGO. <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T16:34:00.000Z-Naveennairp-2015-06-21T16:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 21 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T16:34:00.000Z-Naveennairp-2015-06-21T16:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-21T16:34:00.000Z-Naveennairp-2015-06-21T16:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T11:40:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-21T16:34:00.000Z"></span>Kudpung, I agree with you but there are millions of people wants to know the work what this non profit organization is doing there fore i thought Wikipedia is a better place to give information about this organization (similar to other non profit organizations). Genuine and non biased information. You can validate the support and background of the work from <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.facebook.com/Dil.Se.Education.Foundation">https://www.facebook.com/Dil.Se.Education.Foundation</a>. and other news channels</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I hope you support and activate the page. If you didnt find the content interesting you can re-write the content as per your understanding.<a href="/wiki/User:Naveennairp" title="User:Naveennairp">Naveennairp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naveennairp" title="User talk:Naveennairp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T11:40:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-21T16:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:40, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T11:40:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-21T16:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T11:40:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-21T16:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Naveennairp" title="User:Naveennairp"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T12:13:00.000Z-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T11:40:00.000Z"></span>Naveennairp</a>, I'm sorry, but the organisation just does not meet Wikipedia criteria for inclusion, so there is nothing I can do about it. Facebook is not only not a reliable source but we are not allowed to use it at all. For more information, please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTABILITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTABILITY">WP:NOTABILITY</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T12:13:00.000Z-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T11:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:13, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T12:13:00.000Z-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T11:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T12:13:00.000Z-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T11:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T13:19:00.000Z-Please_do_not_delete_Dil_Se_Education_Page"></span>Kudpung, I really understand your concern. Please find the supporting news paper links for your reference. Most of these are in local language and thats the reason i gave you the facebook page. I hope you will help them. </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://epaper.sakshi.com/apnews/Patancheru/12062015/Details.aspx?id=2799092&boxid=26231456">http://epaper.sakshi.com/apnews/Patancheru/12062015/Details.aspx?id=2799092&boxid=26231456</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://epaper.sakshi.com/apnews/Patancheru/12062015/Details.aspx?id=2799091&boxid=26232818">http://epaper.sakshi.com/apnews/Patancheru/12062015/Details.aspx?id=2799091&boxid=26232818</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://epaper.manatelangana.org/PUBLICATIONS/MTMEDAK/MTM/2015/06/21/ArticleHtmls/21062015010001.shtml">http://epaper.manatelangana.org/PUBLICATIONS/MTMEDAK/MTM/2015/06/21/ArticleHtmls/21062015010001.shtml</a> <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Naveennairp" title="User:Naveennairp">Naveennairp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naveennairp" title="User talk:Naveennairp">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Naveennairp" title="Special:Contributions/Naveennairp">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T13:19:00.000Z-Please_do_not_delete_Dil_Se_Education_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T13:19:00.000Z-Please_do_not_delete_Dil_Se_Education_Page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T13:19:00.000Z-Please_do_not_delete_Dil_Se_Education_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:25:00.000Z-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T13:19:00.000Z"></span>If you feel that the deletion was not made according to Wikipedia policies and guidelines, please lodge your appeal at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review">Wikipedia:Deletion review</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:25:00.000Z-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T13:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:25:00.000Z-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T13:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:25:00.000Z-Naveennairp-2015-06-22T13:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Sire_Life_Sciences" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Sire_Life_Sciences-2015-06-22T13:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Sire_Life_Sciences-2015-06-22T13:05:00.000Z"></span>Speedy deletion nomination of Sire Life Sciences<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Sire_Life_Sciences-2015-06-22T13:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Speedy deletion nomination of Sire Life Sciences"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:05:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Sire_Life_Sciences"></span>It's a description of an existing company, enclosing their growth and main activities. Has an intention to inform and nothing more to it. It's an example that is being followed based on other companies who have posted articles on Wikipedia. Kind regards, Maarten van Zuidam </p> <dl><dd>Your company or organisation does not meet Wikipedia criteria for inclusion in the encyclopedia. An encyclopedia is not a B2B web site for listing companies. Sorry. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:05:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Sire_Life_Sciences" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:05, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:05:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Sire_Life_Sciences"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:05:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Sire_Life_Sciences"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Annaheib-2015-06-22T13:45:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Sire_Life_Sciences"></span>hey! </p><p>I just received your "speedy deletion" of my requested page! I thought you had to import the foreign article into the English wiki in order for it to be translated. I tried to get help in the IRC chat, but so far no one answered. Can you help me find the right way? The steps on how to do it are not really clear. Thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Annaheib&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Annaheib (page does not exist)">Annaheib</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Annaheib" title="User talk:Annaheib">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Annaheib" title="Special:Contributions/Annaheib">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Annaheib-2015-06-22T13:45:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Sire_Life_Sciences" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Annaheib-2015-06-22T13:45:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Sire_Life_Sciences"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Annaheib-2015-06-22T13:45:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Sire_Life_Sciences"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:53:00.000Z-Annaheib-2015-06-22T13:45:00.000Z"></span>Auf 'Anhieb' wurde ich sagen dass keiner hier wird sich die Mühe geben mit so'ner Übersetzung ;)</dd> <dd>That said, if you feel it is important enough for us to have an English language article about it, then you should prefereably ask around the translators at de.Wiki. I could translate it of course in just a few minutes, but it's not really my job, oder? <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:53:00.000Z-Annaheib-2015-06-22T13:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:53, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:53:00.000Z-Annaheib-2015-06-22T13:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:53:00.000Z-Annaheib-2015-06-22T13:45:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:58:00.000Z-Annaheib-2015-06-22T13:45:00.000Z"></span>Anyway, someone has sent it to Draft space, so it hasn;t beeb deleted. <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:58:00.000Z-Annaheib-2015-06-22T13:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:58:00.000Z-Annaheib-2015-06-22T13:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T13:58:00.000Z-Annaheib-2015-06-22T13:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I_have_unreviewed_a_page_you_curated" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_have_unreviewed_a_page_you_curated-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_have_unreviewed_a_page_you_curated-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z"></span>I have unreviewed a page you curated<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_have_unreviewed_a_page_you_curated-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: I have unreviewed a page you curated"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z-I_have_unreviewed_a_page_you_curated"></span>Hi, I'm Khocon. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, <a href="/wiki/Josiah_Crump" title="Josiah Crump">Josiah Crump</a>, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Khocon" title="User talk:Khocon">my talk page</a>. Thank you. Rakibul Islam Khocon <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z-I_have_unreviewed_a_page_you_curated" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z-I_have_unreviewed_a_page_you_curated"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z-I_have_unreviewed_a_page_you_curated"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Khocon" title="User:Khocon"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T15:03:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z"></span>Khocon</a>, I appreciate your enthusiasm but I'm not quite sure what you are talking about as I do not appear to have patrolled that page. However, your edits were removed by <a href="/wiki/User:Tokyogirl79LVA" title="User:Tokyogirl79LVA">Tokyogirl79LVA</a> who is an administrator and knows what she is doing. Please be more careful with your New Page patrolling because srtictly speaking you do not yet have sufficient experience at all to be doing maintenance tasks on Wikipedia. If <i>you </i> need any help, don't hesitate to ask me. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T15:03:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T15:03:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T15:03:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tokyogirl79LVA-2015-06-22T15:09:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z"></span>In all fairness, after a while I realized what <a href="/wiki/User:Khocon" title="User:Khocon">Khocon</a> was tagging. I was following along with the Encyclopedia Virginia's bio of Crump, which is why I'd originally used that as a source so frequently (hence the reliance on one source tag) and I think that he tagged them as primary since I'm with the LVA. The latter isn't really accurate since the EV isn't a primary source (it's a encyclopedia run by the Virginia Foundation for the Humanities, which works with the Library of Virginia). I think that they meant well and the first tag was somewhat accurate (I've since fixed this), but they misunderstood the second tag. <a href="/wiki/User:Tokyogirl79LVA" title="User:Tokyogirl79LVA">Tokyogirl79LVA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tokyogirl79LVA" title="User talk:Tokyogirl79LVA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Tokyogirl79LVA-2015-06-22T15:09:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:09, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tokyogirl79LVA-2015-06-22T15:09:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tokyogirl79LVA-2015-06-22T15:09:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Tokyogirl79LVA" title="User:Tokyogirl79LVA"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Khocon-2015-06-22T15:20:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z"></span>Tokyogirl79LVA</a>, Hi there, yes i was unsure about my second Tagging. Yes, my first tag was accurate. I will be more careful next time. <a href="/wiki/User:Khocon" title="User:Khocon">Khocon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Khocon" title="User talk:Khocon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Khocon-2015-06-22T15:20:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Khocon-2015-06-22T15:20:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Khocon-2015-06-22T15:20:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T14:49:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tokyogirl79LVA-2015-06-22T15:11:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T15:20:00.000Z"></span>But I do agree that it might be better to wait until you're a little more familiar with the tags before patrolling since that does require you to be pretty familiar with the basic policies- plus I'll admit that it's pretty high stress for anyone, especially newer users since patrolling has an unsaid requirement to it: if you see a page that is blatantly problematic for whatever reason (claims, notability, etc) then you're somewhat expected to address this in some format. Some of this can be done with tags, but is something is obviously non-notable (like a middle schooler adding a page for their friends) then it's expected that you'll nominate it for deletion in some format. <a href="/wiki/User:Tokyogirl79LVA" title="User:Tokyogirl79LVA">Tokyogirl79LVA</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tokyogirl79LVA" title="User talk:Tokyogirl79LVA">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Tokyogirl79LVA-2015-06-22T15:11:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T15:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tokyogirl79LVA-2015-06-22T15:11:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T15:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tokyogirl79LVA-2015-06-22T15:11:00.000Z-Khocon-2015-06-22T15:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Shanti_Sadan_School" data-mw-thread-id="h-Shanti_Sadan_School-2015-06-22T15:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Shanti_Sadan_School-2015-06-22T15:21:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Shanti_Sadan_School&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Shanti Sadan School (page does not exist)">Shanti Sadan School</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Shanti_Sadan_School-2015-06-22T15:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Shanti Sadan School"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Srinivasprabhu933-2015-06-22T15:21:00.000Z-Shanti_Sadan_School"></span>This is about the said I created <a href="/w/index.php?title=Shanti_Sadan_School&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Shanti Sadan School (page does not exist)">Shanti Sadan School</a>, I wanted to ask that being a student for 10 years in above mentioned school, can i upload the schools logo? Does it violate any copy rights?<a href="/wiki/User:Srinivasprabhu933" title="User:Srinivasprabhu933">srini</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Srinivasprabhu933" title="User talk:Srinivasprabhu933">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Srinivasprabhu933-2015-06-22T15:21:00.000Z-Shanti_Sadan_School" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Srinivasprabhu933-2015-06-22T15:21:00.000Z-Shanti_Sadan_School"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Srinivasprabhu933-2015-06-22T15:21:00.000Z-Shanti_Sadan_School"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Srinivasprabhu933" title="User:Srinivasprabhu933"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T15:34:00.000Z-Srinivasprabhu933-2015-06-22T15:21:00.000Z"></span>Srinivasprabhu933</a>, It doesn't violate copyrights if that is all you are doing with it as a non-free image, but uploading it and doing it correctly are very complicated. If you prefer, you can leave a link to it here, and I'll do it for you tomorrow. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T15:34:00.000Z-Srinivasprabhu933-2015-06-22T15:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T15:34:00.000Z-Srinivasprabhu933-2015-06-22T15:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T15:34:00.000Z-Srinivasprabhu933-2015-06-22T15:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Autowiki_browser" data-mw-thread-id="h-Autowiki_browser-2015-06-22T17:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Autowiki_browser-2015-06-22T17:06:00.000Z"></span>Autowiki browser<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Autowiki_browser-2015-06-22T17:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Autowiki browser"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:06:00.000Z-Autowiki_browser"></span>What about me?</a> --<span style="border:1px solid #0072BC;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:CosmicEmperor" title="User:CosmicEmperor"><span style="color:#0072BC;padding-left:1px;">Cosmic</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:CosmicEmperor" title="User talk:CosmicEmperor"><span style="color:#fff;background:#0072BC;"> Emperor </span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:06:00.000Z-Autowiki_browser" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:06:00.000Z-Autowiki_browser"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:06:00.000Z-Autowiki_browser"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:12:00.000Z-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:06:00.000Z"></span>What about you, <a href="/wiki/User:CosmicEmperor" title="User:CosmicEmperor">CosmicEmperor</a>? Don't you know how to use talk pages yet? --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:12:00.000Z-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:12:00.000Z-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:12:00.000Z-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:24:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:12:00.000Z"></span>It's taking such a long time? Worm That turned has not commented yet. I don't like the suspense whether it will be approved or not.?<span style="border:1px solid #0072BC;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:CosmicEmperor" title="User:CosmicEmperor"><span style="color:#0072BC;padding-left:1px;">Cosmic</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:CosmicEmperor" title="User talk:CosmicEmperor"><span style="color:#fff;background:#0072BC;"> Emperor </span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:24:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:24:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:24:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:38:00.000Z-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:24:00.000Z"></span>The suspense is over, <a href="/wiki/User:CosmicEmperor" title="User:CosmicEmperor">CosmicEmperor</a>, I'm afraid the answer is 'no'. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:38:00.000Z-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:38:00.000Z-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:38:00.000Z-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:54:00.000Z-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:24:00.000Z"></span>Don't change your decision, but <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=CosmicEmperor&project=en.wikipedia.org">xtools is working now</a>.--<span style="border:1px solid #0072BC;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:CosmicEmperor" title="User:CosmicEmperor"><span style="color:#0072BC;padding-left:1px;">Cosmic</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:CosmicEmperor" title="User talk:CosmicEmperor"><span style="color:#fff;background:#0072BC;"> Emperor </span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:54:00.000Z-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:54:00.000Z-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:54:00.000Z-CosmicEmperor-2015-06-22T17:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2015-06-22T17:34:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2015-06-22T17:34:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2015-06-22T17:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Howicus-2015-06-22T17:34:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Original_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Original_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Original Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">For translating and editing <a href="/wiki/Fachhochschule_Potsdam" title="Fachhochschule Potsdam">Fachhochschule Potsdam</a> in less than three hours. <a href="/wiki/User:Howicus" title="User:Howicus">Howicus</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Howicus" title="User talk:Howicus">(Did I mess up?)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Howicus-2015-06-22T17:34:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Howicus-2015-06-22T17:34:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Howicus-2015-06-22T17:34:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:40:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span>Aw, it wasn't such hard work, <a href="/wiki/User:Howicus" title="User:Howicus">Howicus</a>. I also had my dinner and watched an old repeat of <i>Colombo</i> while I was doing it. Thank you very much for the Barnstar :) <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:40:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:40:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-22T17:40:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hi!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hi!-2015-06-22T21:14:00.000Z"><span id="Hi.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hi!-2015-06-22T21:14:00.000Z"></span>Hi!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hi!-2015-06-22T21:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Hi!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Carman-Ainsworth_High_School" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carman-Ainsworth High School"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_from_Idegon-2015-06-22T21:14:00.000Z-Hi!"></span>This</a> may be of interest to you and to the School project in general. <a href="/wiki/User:John_from_Idegon" title="User:John from Idegon">John from Idegon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John_from_Idegon" title="User talk:John from Idegon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-John_from_Idegon-2015-06-22T21:14:00.000Z-Hi!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 22 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_from_Idegon-2015-06-22T21:14:00.000Z-Hi!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_from_Idegon-2015-06-22T21:14:00.000Z-Hi!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Snide_Comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Snide_Comment-2015-06-23T11:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Snide_Comment-2015-06-23T11:50:00.000Z"></span>Snide Comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Snide_Comment-2015-06-23T11:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Snide Comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kindslatex-2015-06-23T11:50:00.000Z-Snide_Comment"></span>For that snide comment, there will be more socks and even filthier vandalism now. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Kindslatex" title="User:Kindslatex">Kindslatex</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kindslatex" title="User talk:Kindslatex">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kindslatex" title="Special:Contributions/Kindslatex">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kindslatex-2015-06-23T11:50:00.000Z-Snide_Comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 23 June 2015 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kindslatex-2015-06-23T11:50:00.000Z-Snide_Comment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kindslatex-2015-06-23T11:50:00.000Z-Snide_Comment"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-23T12:00:00.000Z-Kindslatex-2015-06-23T11:50:00.000Z"></span>Troll blocked. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-23T12:00:00.000Z-Kindslatex-2015-06-23T11:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:00, 23 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-23T12:00:00.000Z-Kindslatex-2015-06-23T11:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-23T12:00:00.000Z-Kindslatex-2015-06-23T11:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="deletion_of_a_page:_Zhenya_Gershman" data-mw-thread-id="h-deletion_of_a_page:_Zhenya_Gershman-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-deletion_of_a_page:_Zhenya_Gershman-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z"></span>deletion of a page: Zhenya Gershman<span data-mw-comment-end="h-deletion_of_a_page:_Zhenya_Gershman-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: deletion of a page: Zhenya Gershman"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jon_Deen-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z-deletion_of_a_page:_Zhenya_Gershman"></span>Hello -- I noticed that you decided to delete my page. I ask for your help to undelete. The majority of votes showed strong arguments in favor of keeping. Please help me. I am happy to add more or to edit, but I really strongly believe this page is of importance. Thank you <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jon_Deen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jon Deen (page does not exist)">Jon Deen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jon_Deen" title="User talk:Jon Deen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Jon_Deen-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z-deletion_of_a_page:_Zhenya_Gershman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:30, 23 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jon_Deen-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z-deletion_of_a_page:_Zhenya_Gershman"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jon_Deen-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z-deletion_of_a_page:_Zhenya_Gershman"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-23T23:48:00.000Z-Jon_Deen-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jon_Deen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jon Deen (page does not exist)">Jon Deen</a>, we do not go by numerical votes alone; we <i>do</i> take into account all the comments. I admit that this was a close call but the close was made within the guidelines at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CLOSEAFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CLOSEAFD">WP:CLOSEAFD</a>. Please let me know how you feel the consensus should have been to 'keep' the article and I will be happy to review the discussion and my closure again. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-23T23:48:00.000Z-Jon_Deen-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:48, 23 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-23T23:48:00.000Z-Jon_Deen-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-23T23:48:00.000Z-Jon_Deen-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-24T00:56:00.000Z-Jon_Deen-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z"></span>Dear <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> - I really appreciate your consideration. There are more than required three references that show Gershman's clear notability: Le Monde article, The Jewish Journal, World News RIA Novosti, US News Daily, Arte Al Limite that I strongly feel show consensus to "KEEP".... I am happy to add her education background as suggested by one of the comments as she has received BFA from Otis Art Institute with honors, and MFA from Art Center College of Design. Gershman's early mentor was Orest Vereisky <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.russia-ic.com/people/general/v/726/">http://www.russia-ic.com/people/general/v/726/</a></dd></dl> <p>Specifically, please take a look at the following exchange where the Primefac who originally felt it should be deleted changed their vote: </p><p>"Would be willing to change my opinion but only if some rock-solid refs are found. – Le Monde, The Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles, and Arteallimite are "rock-solid refs" that provide the "significant coverage" in reliable sources required by Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Why do you disagree? Cunard (talk) 04:04, 4 June 2015 (UTC) </p><p>Cunard, I managed to miss the latter two links you posted. I'm still on the fence, but I will rescind my del "vote" for now. Primefac (talk) 22:46, 4 June 2015 (UTC) I appreciate your refreshing honesty. Too many editors would refuse to admit that they hadn't reviewed all of the sources posted in the AfD. Cunard (talk) 03:16, 5 June 2015 (UTC)" </p><p>Again thank you for your consideration to restore. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jon_Deen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jon Deen (page does not exist)">Jon Deen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jon_Deen" title="User talk:Jon Deen">talk</a>) , 23 June 2015 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jon_Deen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jon Deen (page does not exist)">Jon</a>,Because this was a very close call and because the closer is not obliged to read the article (indeed to do so would possibly invite his /her own opinion to the matter), I w ill restore the article without prejudice to it being listed for deletion again if new sources are not added to it that assert notbility. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-24T00:56:00.000Z-Jon_Deen-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 24 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-24T00:56:00.000Z-Jon_Deen-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-24T00:56:00.000Z-Jon_Deen-2015-06-23T23:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Dear <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> thank you for your honest unprejudiced review! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jon_Deen&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jon Deen (page does not exist)">Jon Deen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jon_Deen" title="User talk:Jon Deen">talk</a>) , 23 June 2015 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Numoni" data-mw-thread-id="h-Numoni-2015-06-24T07:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Numoni-2015-06-24T07:52:00.000Z"></span>Numoni<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Numoni-2015-06-24T07:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Numoni"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ashuduff-2015-06-24T07:52:00.000Z-Numoni"></span>Hi, I'd like to check why Numoni was deleted? The company is a regional leader in AVMs. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Ashuduff" title="User:Ashuduff">Ashuduff</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ashuduff" title="User talk:Ashuduff">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ashuduff" title="Special:Contributions/Ashuduff">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Ashuduff-2015-06-24T07:52:00.000Z-Numoni" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:52, 24 June 2015 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ashuduff-2015-06-24T07:52:00.000Z-Numoni"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ashuduff-2015-06-24T07:52:00.000Z-Numoni"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-24T13:09:00.000Z-Ashuduff-2015-06-24T07:52:00.000Z"></span>The article was deleted: <i>21:55, June 21, 2015 Jimfbleak (talk | contribs | block) deleted page Numoni (Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria A7, G11)</i> which means that not only did it fail to demonstrate any particular importance or significance, but it was akso written like a typical B2B directry entry. An encyclopedia is not a venue for simply listing companies. For such purposes other web sites exist. For further information please discuss with the deleting administrator. You may also wish to read the guidelines involved by cliking these links: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:A7" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:A7">WP:A7</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:G11" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:G11">WP:G11</a>. Please remember to sign your posts. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-24T13:09:00.000Z-Ashuduff-2015-06-24T07:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 24 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-24T13:09:00.000Z-Ashuduff-2015-06-24T07:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-24T13:09:00.000Z-Ashuduff-2015-06-24T07:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Problematic_Terre_Haute,_Indiana,_US;_ISP:_Frontier_editor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Problematic_Terre_Haute,_Indiana,_US;_ISP:_Frontier_editor-2015-06-27T00:47:00.000Z"><span id="Problematic_Terre_Haute.2C_Indiana.2C_US.3B_ISP:_Frontier_editor"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Problematic_Terre_Haute,_Indiana,_US;_ISP:_Frontier_editor-2015-06-27T00:47:00.000Z"></span>Problematic Terre Haute, Indiana, US; ISP: Frontier editor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Problematic_Terre_Haute,_Indiana,_US;_ISP:_Frontier_editor-2015-06-27T00:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Problematic Terre Haute, Indiana, US; ISP: Frontier editor"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T00:47:00.000Z-Problematic_Terre_Haute,_Indiana,_US;_ISP:_Frontier_editor"></span>Hi Kudpung, quick update on <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=667818493">this issue</a>, though closed and I appreciate the page blocks, another IP has flared up <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/50.104.196.249">here</a> with more article that presumably need protection, assuming you're still interested in this issue. I would probably say that anything on that history page could conceivably be protected. I've reverted the IP's edits. Regards and thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T00:47:00.000Z-Problematic_Terre_Haute,_Indiana,_US;_ISP:_Frontier_editor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:47, 27 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T00:47:00.000Z-Problematic_Terre_Haute,_Indiana,_US;_ISP:_Frontier_editor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T00:47:00.000Z-Problematic_Terre_Haute,_Indiana,_US;_ISP:_Frontier_editor"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-27T02:02:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T00:47:00.000Z"></span>Cyphoidbomb</a>, apart from changing a lot of dates, I don't see anything egregious in the edits of 50.104.196.249. The problem here is that I am not an expert on the subject matter. While I naturally assume your reverts to be in good faith and hence correct I need something more conclusive to be able to block in this instance or to protect the pages. Another admin might be bolder than me. Prefereably this conversation should be a continuation of the ANI case. I would have no objection to you copying it over there - the more eyes on it the better. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-27T02:02:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T00:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:02, 27 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-27T02:02:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T00:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-27T02:02:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T00:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T03:32:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-27T02:02:00.000Z"></span>I appreciate your faith in my integrity. :) I'd argue that they should be blocked per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REVERTBAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REVERTBAN">WP:REVERTBAN</a> since they have been vandalizing Muppets-related articles for quite some time and are de facto not welcome here. Though I know that blocks aren't punitive, the vandal continues to avoid virtually every standard we have for discussion, sourcing, etc. They have never discussed anything as far as I know, they never submit references, and there's no presumption that anything that comes out of these socks should be considered correct. <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/summary.py?name=Cyphoidbomb&search=indiana&server=enwiki&max=500&ns=">this represents some of the scope of the problem</a>, although I know I've been aware of this person for a while, long before I started tagging edit summaries with the geolocation of certain vandal IPs. Obviously they don't always edit from Terre Haute IPs. Here, for instance, they keep submitting the same Muppet cameo crap, in spite of a number of other editors rejecting the content. Other examples of that same edit <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Muppet_Christmas_Carol&diff=659147078&oldid=657388903">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Muppet_Christmas_Carol&diff=659536225&oldid=659281495">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Muppet_Christmas_Carol&diff=661694419&oldid=661400134">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Muppet_Christmas_Carol&diff=661711315&oldid=661698631">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Muppet_Christmas_Carol&diff=661718343&oldid=661715410">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Muppet_Christmas_Carol&type=revision&diff=667796316&oldid=666170598">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Muppet_Christmas_Carol&diff=667796538&oldid=667796492">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Muppet_Christmas_Carol&diff=667796587&oldid=667796559">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Muppet_Christmas_Carol&diff=667801360&oldid=667796704">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Muppet_Christmas_Carol&diff=667802021&oldid=667801699">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Muppet_Christmas_Carol&diff=667803335&oldid=667802342">here</a>. That's a combination of POV/ownership/edit-warring/ignoring what the community wants and is absolutely disruptive. The persistent unsourced date changes are no better. Even if they hop IPs, they should be held to a basic standard, which they have never achieved. Thus, de facto banned. If you're still not convinced that this is the same person, please note the reported IP's unexplained removal of content <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Whitmire&type=revision&diff=668833629&oldid=667803916">here</a> at <a href="/wiki/Steve_Whitmire" title="Steve Whitmire">Steve Whitmire</a> (the puppeteer behind Kermit the Frog) and then some of the other removals <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Whitmire&type=revision&diff=667802932&oldid=666283643">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Whitmire&diff=666274103&oldid=665250985">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Whitmire&diff=665244178&oldid=665239377">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Whitmire&type=revision&diff=665187175&oldid=664191410">here</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Whitmire&type=revision&diff=663996789&oldid=663288912">here</a> and you can probably continue the pattern. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T03:32:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-27T02:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:32, 27 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T03:32:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-27T02:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T03:32:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-27T02:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-27T10:46:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T03:32:00.000Z"></span>Cyphoidbomb</a>, you really need to be posting all this at ANI. There's just too much detail fo me to analyse alone right now and more can be done on it where there are more eyes on it to share the load. <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-27T10:46:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T03:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 27 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-27T10:46:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T03:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-27T10:46:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T03:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T13:16:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-27T10:46:00.000Z"></span>Sorry, I was so focused on digging up the info that I forgot your suggestion to post it at ANI. Overworked... <a href="/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T13:16:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-27T10:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 27 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T13:16:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-27T10:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T13:16:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-27T10:46:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T14:31:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-27T10:46:00.000Z"></span>Report filed <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Terre_Haute_Indiana_IP_vandal_-_Muppets_vandalism_continued">here</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Cyphoidbomb" title="User:Cyphoidbomb">Cyphoidbomb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyphoidbomb" title="User talk:Cyphoidbomb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T14:31:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-27T10:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 27 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T14:31:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-27T10:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyphoidbomb-2015-06-27T14:31:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-27T10:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Adminship" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adminship-2015-06-27T05:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adminship-2015-06-27T05:49:00.000Z"></span>Adminship<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adminship-2015-06-27T05:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Adminship"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2015-06-27T05:49:00.000Z-Adminship"></span>Thanks for your support at my RfA; I'll do my best to be worthy of it. Unless I go feral...in which case it's everyone for himself. :-) --<a href="/wiki/User:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><i>Che dicono a Signa?</i></a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><b>Lo dicono a Signa.</b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2015-06-27T05:49:00.000Z-Adminship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:49, 27 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2015-06-27T05:49:00.000Z-Adminship"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2015-06-27T05:49:00.000Z-Adminship"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-27T09:19:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2015-06-27T05:49:00.000Z"></span>Welcome to the club, <a href="/wiki/User:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</a>. THE POWER IS YOURS - go for it! --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-27T09:19:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2015-06-27T05:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 27 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-27T09:19:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2015-06-27T05:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-27T09:19:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2015-06-27T05:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Close" data-mw-thread-id="h-Close-2015-06-27T10:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Close-2015-06-27T10:38:00.000Z"></span>Close<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Close-2015-06-27T10:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Close"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-06-27T10:38:00.000Z-Close"></span>The AE close was <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=668701454&oldid=668701274">this</a></span>, a good close in my opinion, - I couldn't comment because when I woke up things had changed, --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-06-27T10:38:00.000Z-Close" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 27 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-06-27T10:38:00.000Z-Close"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2015-06-27T10:38:00.000Z-Close"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Arbitration_motion_regarding_Arbitration_enforcement" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arbitration_motion_regarding_Arbitration_enforcement-2015-06-29T01:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arbitration_motion_regarding_Arbitration_enforcement-2015-06-29T01:30:00.000Z"></span>Arbitration motion regarding <i>Arbitration enforcement</i><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arbitration_motion_regarding_Arbitration_enforcement-2015-06-29T01:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Arbitration motion regarding Arbitration enforcement"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-06-29T01:30:00.000Z-Arbitration_motion_regarding_Arbitration_enforcement"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256334245">.mw-parser-output .ivmbox{margin-bottom:1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,#fdf2d5);padding:0.5em;display:flex;align-items:center}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-image{padding-left:1px;padding-right:0.5em;max-width:100px;flex:1 0 25px}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text{padding:0.5em 0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:first-child{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:last-child{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>By <a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/669122144#Motion_.28AE.29" title="Special:PermanentLink/669122144">motion</a>, the Arbitration Committee authorises the following injunction effective immediately: </p> <ol><li>The case is to be opened forthwith and entitled "Arbitration enforcement";</li> <li>During the case, no user who has commented about this matter on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">AN page</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AE">AE page</a> or the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARC#top" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARC">Case Requests page</a>, may take or initiate administrative action involving any of the named parties in this case.</li> <li>Reports of alleged breaches of (2) are to be made only by email to the Arbitration Committee, via the <a href="/wiki/User:Arbitration_Committee" title="User:Arbitration Committee">main contact page</a>.</li></ol> </div> </div> <p>You are receiving this message because you have <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">commented about this matter on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">AN page</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AE">AE page</a> or the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARC#top" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARC">Case Requests page</a></q> and are therefore restricted as specified in (2). For the Arbitration Committee, <b><a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">L235</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L235#top" title="User talk:L235">t</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/L235" title="Special:Contributions/L235">c</a> / <a href="/wiki/User:L235/siginfo" class="mw-redirect" title="User:L235/siginfo"><small>ping in reply</small></a>) via <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-06-29T01:30:00.000Z-Arbitration_motion_regarding_Arbitration_enforcement" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:30, 29 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-06-29T01:30:00.000Z-Arbitration_motion_regarding_Arbitration_enforcement"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-06-29T01:30:00.000Z-Arbitration_motion_regarding_Arbitration_enforcement"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Arbitration_enforcement_arbitration_case_opened" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arbitration_enforcement_arbitration_case_opened-2015-06-29T02:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arbitration_enforcement_arbitration_case_opened-2015-06-29T02:43:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration_enforcement" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration enforcement"><i>Arbitration enforcement</i></a> arbitration case opened<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arbitration_enforcement_arbitration_case_opened-2015-06-29T02:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Arbitration enforcement arbitration case opened"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-06-29T02:43:00.000Z-Arbitration_enforcement_arbitration_case_opened"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>By motion, the committee authorises the following injunction effective immediately: </p> <ol><li>The [Arbitration enforcement] case [request] is to be opened forthwith and entitled "Arbitration enforcement";</li> <li>During the case, no user who has commented about this matter on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">AN page</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AE">AE page</a> or the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARC#top" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARC">Case Requests page</a>, may take or initiate administrative action involving any of the named parties in this case.</li> <li>Reports of alleged breaches of (2) are to be made only by email to the Arbitration Committee, via the <a href="/wiki/User:Arbitration_Committee" title="User:Arbitration Committee">main contact page</a>.</li></ol> </div> </div> <p>You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has, per the above, accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration_enforcement" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration enforcement">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration enforcement</a>. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration_enforcement/Evidence" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration enforcement/Evidence">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration enforcement/Evidence</a>. <b>Please add your evidence by July 13, 2015, which is when the evidence phase closes.</b> You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration_enforcement/Workshop" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration enforcement/Workshop">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration enforcement/Workshop</a>. For a guide to the arbitration process, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide_to_arbitration" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration</a>. Apologies for the potential duplicate message. For the Arbitration Committee, <b><a href="/wiki/User:L235" title="User:L235">L235</a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:L235#top" title="User talk:L235">t</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/L235" title="Special:Contributions/L235">c</a> / <a href="/wiki/User:L235/siginfo" class="mw-redirect" title="User:L235/siginfo"><small>ping in reply</small></a>) via <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-06-29T02:43:00.000Z-Arbitration_enforcement_arbitration_case_opened" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:43, 29 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-06-29T02:43:00.000Z-Arbitration_enforcement_arbitration_case_opened"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-06-29T02:43:00.000Z-Arbitration_enforcement_arbitration_case_opened"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Photography_contest_in_Thailand" data-mw-thread-id="h-Photography_contest_in_Thailand-2015-06-29T18:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Photography_contest_in_Thailand-2015-06-29T18:24:00.000Z"></span>Photography contest in Thailand<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Photography_contest_in_Thailand-2015-06-29T18:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Photography contest in Thailand"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sphilbrick-2015-06-29T18:24:00.000Z-Photography_contest_in_Thailand"></span>As promised, I have a small request. I was working through some emails at OTRS, and reviewed one where a reader was talking about a photography contest in Thailand. They did not give a lot of information but I believe it may have been a banner ad. I also believe that we have geo-specific banner ads so it is entirely possible that I in North America do not see it while he in Thailand did see it. </p><p>He is a retired photographer and is offering help. I’d obviously like to take advantage of his offer, and would like to connect him up with whomever is running the contest. My hope is that you may have seen the banner ad, or if not, have some other knowledge of the contest or know how to find out who is involved.--<a href="/wiki/User:Sphilbrick" title="User:Sphilbrick"><span style="color:#002868;padding:0 4px;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">S Philbrick</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sphilbrick" title="User talk:Sphilbrick"><span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">(Talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Sphilbrick-2015-06-29T18:24:00.000Z-Photography_contest_in_Thailand" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 29 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sphilbrick-2015-06-29T18:24:00.000Z-Photography_contest_in_Thailand"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sphilbrick-2015-06-29T18:24:00.000Z-Photography_contest_in_Thailand"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-29T18:36:00.000Z-Sphilbrick-2015-06-29T18:24:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Sphilbrick" title="User:Sphilbrick">Sphilbrick</a>, I'm actually supposed to be one of the judges on the contest. I was a judge last year on the Thai Wiki Loves Monuments campaign. The photo contest is being organised by the same person, <a href="/wiki/User:Taweetham" title="User:Taweetham">User:Taweetham</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung กุดผึ้ง</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung#top" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Kudpung-2015-06-29T18:36:00.000Z-Sphilbrick-2015-06-29T18:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:36, 29 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kudpung-2015-06-29T18:36:00.000Z-Sphilbrick-2015-06-29T18:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-29T18:36:00.000Z-Sphilbrick-2015-06-29T18:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sphilbrick-2015-06-29T19:14:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-29T18:36:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. I've responded to <a href="/wiki/User:Taweetham" title="User:Taweetham">User:Taweetham</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:Sphilbrick" title="User:Sphilbrick"><span style="color:#002868;padding:0 4px;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">S Philbrick</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sphilbrick" title="User talk:Sphilbrick"><span style=";padding:0 4px;color:# 000;font-family: Copperplate Gothic Light">(Talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-Sphilbrick-2015-06-29T19:14:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-29T18:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sphilbrick-2015-06-29T19:14:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-29T18:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C678-2015-06-30T12:14:00.000Z-xTools_mailing_list"></span>Feel free to subscribe.—<sup><a href="/wiki/User:C678" class="mw-redirect" title="User:C678"><span style="color:green;font-family:Courier">cyberpower</span></a></sup><small><sub style="margin-left:-10.1ex;color:olive;font-family:Comic Sans MS"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:C678" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:C678"><span style="color:olive">Chat</span></a>:Online</sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-C678-2015-06-30T12:14:00.000Z-xTools_mailing_list" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:14, 30 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C678-2015-06-30T12:14:00.000Z-xTools_mailing_list"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" 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href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kudpung-2015-06-30T14:03:00.000Z-C678-2015-06-30T12:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C678-2015-06-30T14:06:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-30T14:03:00.000Z"></span>Oh right a link would help. :p <a class="external free" href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools">https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools</a> We just created it.—<sup><a href="/wiki/User:C678" class="mw-redirect" title="User:C678"><span style="color:green;font-family:Courier">cyberpower</span></a></sup><small><sub style="margin-left:-10.1ex;color:olive;font-family:Comic Sans MS"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:C678" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:C678"><span style="color:olive">Chat</span></a>:Online</sub></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung/Archive_Jun_2015#c-C678-2015-06-30T14:06:00.000Z-Kudpung-2015-06-30T14:03:00.000Z" 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