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data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r23787426">.mw-parser-output .WMF-EQ-question{display:table}.mw-parser-output .WMF-EQ-question>div{display:table-cell;vertical-align:middle}.mw-parser-output .WMF-EQ-question>div:first-child{padding:2em}.mw-parser-output .WMF-EQ-question-content{font-size:1.5em}.mw-parser-output .WMF-EQ-question-author{font-size:0.9em}.mw-parser-output .WMF-EQ-candidate-box{margin:5px 20px 5px 20px;border:1px solid #000000;border-radius:5px;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .WMF-EQ-candidate-box-header{margin:0;border-width:0;border-bottom:1px dotted #5f310d;border-radius:5px;background-color:#9fbfcf;padding:5px;font-weight:bold;font-size:17px}.mw-parser-output .WMF-EQ-candidate-box-answer{padding:1em}</style> <div class="WMF-EQ-question"> <div><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Question.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Question.svg/100px-Question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Question.svg/150px-Question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Question.svg/200px-Question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span></div> <div> <p><span class="WMF-EQ-question-content">We learn from both successes and failures. In what crucial ways did the Wikimedia Movement fail, and what do we learn from these failures?</span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="WMF-EQ-question-author"><i><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://forum.movement-strategy.org/t/q8-we-learn-from-both-successes-and-failures-in-what-crucial-ways-did-the-wikimedia-movement-fail-and-what-do-we-learn-from-these-failures/799">This question</a> was proposed and selected by the Affiliate Representatives of the 2022 Board of Trustees election. Translations of the questions and answers may be found on the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://forum.movement-strategy.org/c/ensure-equity-in-decision-making/wmf-board-elections/23">Movement Strategy Forum</a></i></span></dd></dl> </div> </div> <div class="WMF-EQ-candidates"> <div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box dshuf dshufset{{{qnum}}}"><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-header"> <p>Farah Jack Mustaklem (<a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Candidates/Farah_Jack_Mustaklem" title="Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Candidates/Farah Jack Mustaklem">Fjmustak</a>) </p> </div><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-answer"> <p>We learned that the movement as a whole is usually not in favour of radical changes. As a very diverse movement, the status quo is seen by many as a stabilising factor. While change is inevitable, and at times much needed, community acceptance needs to be taken into account, and changes should be gradual. </p> </div></div> <div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box dshuf dshufset{{{qnum}}}"><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-header"> <p>Mike Peel (<a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Candidates/Mike_Peel" title="Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Candidates/Mike Peel">Mike Peel</a>) </p> </div><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-answer"> <p>There have been various organisational issues over the years, both at WMF and affiliates, that have led to significant improvements in governance processes. There have been a lot of on-wiki learnings too - particularly in the earlier days, for example, highlighting the importance of references (something that is still to come on Wikidata). There have also been lessons we haven't learnt well from, with lots of opportunities lost (particularly growing sister projects, and expanding the tech community outside WMF), and a lot of editors that have had bad experiences and have moved on. </p> </div></div> <div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box dshuf dshufset{{{qnum}}}"><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-header"> <p>Gilbert Ndihokubwayo (<a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Candidates/Gilbert_Ndihokubwayo" title="Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Candidates/Gilbert Ndihokubwayo">Gilbert Ndihokubwayo</a>) </p> </div><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-answer"> <p>The Wikimedia Movement fails in the quality of edits and some articles created on Wikipedia. Effectively we learn from the failures. In fact, an error makes learning in the manner that it shows that the way taken did not lead to the right destination or the expected result. This makes you meditate and think about another adaptation by rectifying the previous way. </p> </div></div> <div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box dshuf dshufset{{{qnum}}}"><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-header"> <p>Tobechukwu Precious Friday (<a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Candidates/Tobechukwu_Precious_Friday_(Tochiprecious)" title="Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Candidates/Tobechukwu Precious Friday (Tochiprecious)">Tochiprecious</a>) </p> </div><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-answer"> <p>I wouldn’t say the Wikimedia Movement has failed because in my opinion it hasn’t. I see the Wikimedia Movement as a democracy movement and in contrast to other democracy movements in politics or in the workplace, the Wikimedia Movement offers more than theory. It gives a glimpse of what is possible in questioning hierarchies and gatekeepers-the creativity and energy unleashed, the involvement, the common ground possible even as the Movement continues to question and seek to improve its own structure. We’re progressively working towards the future. </p> </div></div> <div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box dshuf dshufset{{{qnum}}}"><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-header"> <p>Lionel Scheepmans (<a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Candidates/Lionel_Scheepmans" title="Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Candidates/Lionel Scheepmans">Lionel Scheepmans</a>) </p> </div><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-answer"> <p>That's clear that the movement and specially the foundation was according too much importance on Wikipedia as the biggest project to promote. Wikipedia is great, but not the only way to share knowledge. Also, Wikipedia has editorial rules that are incompatible with the strategy's desire for equity and inclusion. To achieve strategic objectives, we must focus on other sister projects which are all as important as Wikipedia while being more open to inclusion and equity. </p> </div></div> <div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box dshuf dshufset{{{qnum}}}"><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-header"> <p>Abderamane Abakar Brahim (<a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Candidates/Abdermane_Abakar_Brahim" title="Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Candidates/Abdermane Abakar Brahim">Abakar B</a>) </p> </div><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-answer"> <p>The movement failed on the choice of subject which has no source or documents in some but it is an identity of the country </p> </div></div> <div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box dshuf dshufset{{{qnum}}}"><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-header"> <p>Joris Darlington Quarshie (<a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Candidates/Joris_Darlington_Quarshie" title="Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Candidates/Joris Darlington Quarshie">Joris Darlington Quarshie</a>) </p> </div><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-answer"> <p>In every establishment, there are failures and successes these establishments do learn from them. In 2007, A WMF employee with central responsibilities turned out to have an extended criminal record (no wrongdoing at WMF found, but fired nevertheless) Now, there are routine criminal background checks for new hires. (A usual procedure that WMF would probably have made anyway but here learned the hard way. </p> </div></div> <div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box dshuf dshufset{{{qnum}}}"><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-header"> <p>Egbe Eugene Agbor (<a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Candidates/Egbe_Eugene_Agbor" title="Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Candidates/Egbe Eugene Agbor">Eugene233</a>) </p> </div><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-answer"> <p><i>No response yet.</i> </p> </div></div> <div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box dshuf dshufset{{{qnum}}}"><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-header"> <p>Kunal Mehta (<a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Candidates/Kunal_Mehta" title="Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Candidates/Kunal Mehta">Legoktm</a>) </p> </div><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-answer"> <p>A lot of ways, but to fail is human. I will focus on two main issues that are at the core of my candidacy. </p><p>First, we did not adapt from the failures of the Lila-era. If the WMF CEO went rogue (for lack of a better word) again, would we, institutionally be in a better spot? I would argue no, as WMF staff saw after a disastrous reorg attempt in November 2021, we're likely in a worse spot. Plenty of people have opined over the years on how to avoid these problems again, but the board has chosen not to act on them. </p><p>Second, our technical prioritization is broken. If you asked a majority of editors for the top thing they'd like fixed, it would not be <a href="/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022/Results" title="Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Results">better diffs</a>. Back in 2014, we <a class="external text" href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/MM2744EEP4C45EFQ3VYWNL5FTGILNFCG/">had a very clear list of how to fix talk pages</a>. Yet the <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project" class="extiw" title="mw:Talk pages project">mw:Talk pages project</a> (which is great btw) only started in 2019. We need bottom-up prioritization and resourcing. Ironically, it seems like that push will need to come from the board at the top. </p> </div></div> <div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box dshuf dshufset{{{qnum}}}"><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-header"> <p>Shani Evenstein Sigalov (<a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Candidates/Shani_Evenstein_Sigalov" title="Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Candidates/Shani Evenstein Sigalov">Esh77</a>) </p> </div><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-answer"> <p>Failure is a natural part of doing. Looking at WMF since 2011 I can say: </p> <ul><li>The number of different mistakes is actually quite small. However, there are repeating patterns of similar mistakes leading to issues, mostly due to lack of good communication, not enough transparency, lack of clear roles and responsibilities, etc.</li> <li>The most important thing is owning mistakes when they happen and fixing them. Also, developing mechanisms for better communications and transparency (e.g. the Community Affairs Committee) and clarity on roles &amp; responsibilities.</li></ul> <p>I actually believe WMF has been improving and will continue to improve under its new leadership. </p> </div></div> <div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box dshuf dshufset{{{qnum}}}"><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-header"> <p>Gina Bennett (<a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Candidates/Gina_Bennett" title="Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Candidates/Gina Bennett">Redwidgeon</a>) </p> </div><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-answer"> <p>I am not aware of all the “crucial ways in which the Wikimedia movement failed.” I do remember when information in Wikipedia was regarded as suspect (at best) and many of the educators I worked with refused to have anything to do with it. That has certainly changed… I think Wikipedia has learned to be more nimble, more conscientious about seeking feedback from users, and more willing to establish flexible rules (or at least guidelines) to address potential areas of perceived failure. </p> </div></div> <div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box dshuf dshufset{{{qnum}}}"><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-header"> <p>Michał Buczyński (<a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Candidates/Micha%C5%82_Buczy%C5%84ski" title="Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022/Candidates/Michał Buczyński">Aegis Maelstrom</a>) </p> </div><div class="WMF-EQ-candidate-box-answer"> <p>Wikimedia are a major social movement, and anyone can name a number of missteps. The biggest one is forgetting our core principles and promises, and losing big vision in favour of business-as-usual and minutiae. Turning from a bold, experimenting culture into a very conservative, "no change as a default" culture. Moving from distributed networks to hierarchies. Losing from sight needs of audiences and needs of volunteers alike. 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