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We’ve had a lovely and amazing career, and we are continuing to do fun and wonderful things every day. But it’s an imperative, and I actually feel that it’s beholden on us to try and introduce as many people as possible, specifically children, into the love of making and creating because it is slipping out of our fingers.”</strong><br />— Richard Taylor</p> </blockquote> <hr class="wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity"/> <blockquote class="wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow"> <p><strong>“What is art about? It is more than just drawing pictures and making stories — it is finding truth.”</strong><br />— Greg Broadmore</p> </blockquote> <p><strong>Richard Taylor</strong> is the co-founder and creative lead at<strong> <a href="https://www.wetanz.com/us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wētā Workshop</a></strong>, which he runs with his wife and co-founder Tania Rodger. Wētā Workshop is a concept design studio and manufacturing facility that services the world’s creative and entertainment industries. Their practical and special effects have helped define the visual identities of some of the most recognizable franchises in film and television, including <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Ring/dp/B0091VSGSC/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>The Lord of the Rings</em></a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Planet-Apes-James-Franco/dp/B009YMNZJS/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>Planet of the Apes</em></a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Man-Steel-Henry-Cavill/dp/B00G91WB3S/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>Superman</em></a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Mad-Max-Fury-Tom-Hardy/dp/B00XOX9QCS/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>Mad Max</em></a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Thor-Love-Thunder-Chris-Hemsworth/dp/B0B75XVF8W/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>Thor</em></a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/M3GAN-Allison-Williams/dp/B0B73VBPVJ/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>M3gan</em></a>, and <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80174608" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>Love, Death, and Robots</em></a>.</p> <p><strong>Greg Broadmore</strong> is an artist and writer who has been part of the team at <a href="https://www.wetanz.com/us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wētā Workshop</a> for more than 20 years. His design and special-effects credits include <a href="https://www.amazon.com/District-9-Sharlto-Copley/dp/B0094LU2TU/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>District 9</em></a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/King-Kong-Naomi-Watts/dp/B000I9S61I/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>King Kong</em></a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Godzilla-Aaron-Taylor-Johnson/dp/B00KG2RI9I/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>Godzilla</em></a>, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Tintin-Jamie-Bell/dp/B0BVGK8XJV/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>The Adventures of Tintin</em></a>, and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Avatar-Sam-Worthington/dp/B0B6583PVV/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>Avatar</em></a>, and he is the creator of the satirical, retro-sci-fi world of <a href="https://www.gregbroadmore.com/portfolio/dr-grordborts" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dr. Grordbort’s</a>. He is currently working on the graphic novel series <a href="https://www.gregbroadmore.com/portfolio/one-path" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><strong><em>One Path</em></strong></a>,<strong> </strong>set in a brutal prehistoric world where dinosaurs and cavewomen are locked in a grim battle for supremacy.</p> <p>Please enjoy!</p> <p><strong>Listen to the episode on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/799-richard-taylor-and-greg-broadmore-w%C4%93t%C4%81-workshop/id863897795?i=1000698890833" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/55J5r1Jo3xoZgjvkoWyqTn?si=GmLcMBxYSoijr-SMuPV3gw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/+AAKebtXwQTc" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Overcast</a>, <a href="https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/2031148#" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Podcast Addict</a>, <a href="https://pca.st/timferriss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pocket Casts</a>, <a href="https://castbox.fm/channel/id1059468?country=us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Castbox</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuu6fDad2eJyWPm9dQfuorm2uuYHBZDCB">YouTube Music</a>, <a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9814f3cc-1dc5-4003-b816-44a8eb6bf666/the-tim-ferriss-show" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Amazon Music</a>, <a href="https://www.audible.com/podcast/The-Tim-Ferriss-Show/B08K58QX5W" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Audible</a>, or on your favorite podcast platform. The transcript of this episode <a href="https://tim.blog/2025/03/13/weta-workshop-transcript/#content" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">can be found here</a>. 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Teflon is a prime example—it *is* the forever chemical that most companies are still using. Exposure to PFAS has been linked to major health issues like gut microbiome disruption, testosterone dysregulation, and more, which have been correlated to chronic disease in the long term. <strong><a target="_blank" href="https://fromourplace.com/tim">This is why I use the Titanium Always Pan Pro from today’s sponsor, Our Place.</a> </strong> It’s the first nonstick pan with zero coating. This means zero “forever chemicals” and a durability that will last a lifetime. That’s right—no degradation over time like traditional nonstick pans.</p> <p>This pan combines the best qualities of stainless steel, cast iron, and nonstick into one product. It’s tough enough to withstand the dishwasher, open flame, heavy-duty scrubbing—even metal utensils—without losing any of its non-stick properties. <strong><a target="_blank" href="https://fromourplace.com/tim">Go to FromOurPlace.com/Tim and use code TIM to get 10% off sitewide.</a></strong></p> <hr class="wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity"/> <p><strong>This episode is brought to you by <a target="_blank" href="https://seed.com/daily-synbiotic?utm_source=timferriss&utm_medium=page&utm_campaign=25p&promo_code=25TIM">Seed’s DS-01 Daily Synbiotic</a>! </strong>Seed’s <a target="_blank" href="https://seed.com/daily-synbiotic?utm_source=timferriss&utm_medium=page&utm_campaign=25p&promo_code=25TIM">DS-01</a> was recommended to me months ago by a PhD microbiologist, so I started using it well before their team ever reached out to me. Since then, it’s become a daily staple and one of the few supplements I travel with. 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I’m featuring five chapters from the audiobook<strong> </strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fierce-Intimacy-Terry-Real-audiobook/dp/B07FXXFDLL/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><strong><em>Fierce Intimacy</em></strong></a><strong> </strong>by <a href="https://terryreal.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Terry Real</a>.<strong> </strong>What you will hear in this episode will help you identify both your and your partner’s losing strategies in relationships and help you move from disharmony to repair. Terry is the creator of Relational Life Therapy, or RLT, which underpins all his books, courses, and teachings and equips people with the powerful relational skills they need to make love work. He is also the author of five books, including the <em>New York Times</em> bestseller <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Us-Getting-Build-Loving-Relationship/dp/B09BBN9LGW/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><strong><em>Us: Getting Past You and Me to Build a More Loving Relationship</em></strong></a>.<strong> </strong></p> <p>And if you’d like an extra dose of calm, I recommend checking out Henry Shukman, a past podcast guest and one of only a few dozen masters in the world authorized to teach Sanbo Zen. Henry’s app, <a href="http://thewayapp.com/tim" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank"><strong>The Way</strong></a>, has changed my life. I’ve been using it daily, often twice a day, and it’s lowered my anxiety more than I thought possible. <a href="http://thewayapp.com/tim" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">For 30 free sessions, just visit thewayapp.com/tim</a>. No credit card required.</p> <p><em>Excerpted from </em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fierce-Intimacy-Terry-Real-audiobook/dp/B07FXXFDLL/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><strong><em>Fierce Intimacy: Standing Up to One Another with LOVE</em></strong></a><em> by Terry Real (Sounds True, 2018). Used with permission.</em></p> <p>Please enjoy!</p> <p><strong>Listen to the episode on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/798-terry-real-relationship-coach-tools-and-practices/id863897795?i=1000697961370" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/697zB3voYsKNwE2mwuFf6u?si=zjhI4CEjTceqHZLp8VYy3A" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/+AAKebuXugjk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Overcast</a>, <a href="https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/2031148#" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Podcast Addict</a>, <a href="https://pca.st/timferriss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pocket Casts</a>, <a href="https://castbox.fm/channel/id1059468?country=us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Castbox</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuu6fDad2eJyWPm9dQfuorm2uuYHBZDCB">YouTube Music</a>, <a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9814f3cc-1dc5-4003-b816-44a8eb6bf666/the-tim-ferriss-show" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Amazon Music</a>, <a href="https://www.audible.com/podcast/The-Tim-Ferriss-Show/B08K58QX5W" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Audible</a>, or on your favorite podcast platform. </strong></p> <div class="wp-block-tim-podcast-link-main podcast-block wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio"><a class="podcast-block__link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/798-terry-real-relationship-coach-tools-and-practices/id863897795?i=1000697961370"><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" src="data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2000/svg'%20viewBox='0%200%200%200'%3E%3C/svg%3E" class="podcast-block__link-icon" data-lazy-src="https://i0.wp.com/tim.blog/wp-content/themes/timferriss/inc/blocks/podcast-link/images/apple-podcast.png?w=600&ssl=1"/><noscript><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/tim.blog/wp-content/themes/timferriss/inc/blocks/podcast-link/images/apple-podcast.png?w=600&ssl=1" class="podcast-block__link-icon"/></noscript><span class="podcast-block__link-text-top">Listen on</span><span class="podcast-block__link-text">Apple Podcasts</span></a></div> <div class="wp-block-tim-podcast-link-main podcast-block wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio"><a class="podcast-block__link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/697zB3voYsKNwE2mwuFf6u?si=zjhI4CEjTceqHZLp8VYy3A"><img width="167" height="167" decoding="async" src="data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2000/svg'%20viewBox='0%200%20167%20167'%3E%3C/svg%3E" class="podcast-block__link-icon" data-lazy-src="https://tim.blog/wp-content/themes/timferriss/inc/blocks/podcast-link/images/spotify.svg"/><noscript><img width="167" height="167" decoding="async" src="https://tim.blog/wp-content/themes/timferriss/inc/blocks/podcast-link/images/spotify.svg" class="podcast-block__link-icon"/></noscript><span class="podcast-block__link-text-top">Listen on</span><span class="podcast-block__link-text">Spotify</span></a></div> <div class="wp-block-tim-podcast-link-main podcast-block wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio"><a class="podcast-block__link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://overcast.fm/+AAKebuXugjk"><img width="1000" height="1000" decoding="async" src="data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2000/svg'%20viewBox='0%200%201000%201000'%3E%3C/svg%3E" class="podcast-block__link-icon" data-lazy-src="https://tim.blog/wp-content/themes/timferriss/inc/blocks/podcast-link/images/overcast.svg"/><noscript><img width="1000" height="1000" decoding="async" src="https://tim.blog/wp-content/themes/timferriss/inc/blocks/podcast-link/images/overcast.svg" class="podcast-block__link-icon"/></noscript><span class="podcast-block__link-text-top">Listen on</span><span class="podcast-block__link-text">Overcast</span></a></div> <div class="podcast-player"><div class="podcast-player-inner-wrap"><div class="title">Terry Real - Breaking the Rules of Traditional Couples Therapy for Superior Results, A Few Frameworks That Work</div><div class="art19-web-player awp-micro " data-episode-id="d6f97869-4019-4cde-98d0-0c8f42c3a221" data-emit-events="true"></div><noscript><iframe src="https://www.art19.com/shows/58dacbdc-646e-4585-9914-19c3de11d1ba/episodes/d6f97869-4019-4cde-98d0-0c8f42c3a221/embed?type=micro" style="width: 100%; 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And that’s what I’m saying. Just like seeing red for the first time. You can hear all about red, but when you see it, you’re like, whoa, wait, there’s something there that’s more. The theory, the words aren’t sufficient to express all of the content.”</strong><br />— L.A. Paul</p> </blockquote> <p><strong>L.A. Paul</strong> (<a href="http://lapaul.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">lapaul.org</a>) is the Millstone Family Professor of Philosophy and Professor of Cognitive Science at Yale University, where she leads the Self and Society Initiative for the Wu Tsai Institute. Her research explores questions about the nature of the self and decision-making and the metaphysics and cognitive science of time, cause, and experience.</p> <p>She is the recipient of fellowships from the Guggenheim Foundation, the National Humanities Center, and the Australian National University. She is the author of <strong><a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Transformative-Experience-L-Paul-ebook/dp/B00NHNGXBC/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20"><em>Transformative Experience</em></a> </strong>and coauthor of <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Causation-Users-Guide-L-Paul-ebook/dp/B00EEJ1P4S/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20"><em>Causation: A User’s Guide</em></a>, which was awarded the American Philosophical Association Sanders Book Prize. Her work on transformative experience has been covered by <em>The New York Times</em>, <em>The Wall Street Journal</em>, <em>The Guardian</em>, NPR, and the BBC, among others. And in 2024, she was <a target="_blank" href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/12/09/the-philosopher-l-a-paul-wants-us-to-think-about-our-selves">profiled by <em>The New Yorker</em></a>. </p> <p>She is currently working on a book, under contract with Farrar, Straus and Giroux, about self-construction, transformative experience, humility, and fear of mental corruption.</p> <p>Please enjoy!</p> <p><strong></strong><strong>Listen to the episode on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/796-l-a-paul-on-becoming-a-vampire-whether-or/id863897795?i=1000694478119" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1FNOwQfiOU5NiADyLMDBrP?si=ZDSCWHtGTNue0Aa-_3LKcg" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/+AAKebucq8-E" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Overcast</a>, <a href="https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/2031148#" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Podcast Addict</a>, <a href="https://pca.st/timferriss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pocket Casts</a>, <a href="https://castbox.fm/channel/id1059468?country=us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Castbox</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuu6fDad2eJyWPm9dQfuorm2uuYHBZDCB">YouTube Music</a>, </strong><strong></strong><strong><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9814f3cc-1dc5-4003-b816-44a8eb6bf666/the-tim-ferriss-show" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Amazon Music</a>, </strong><a href="https://www.audible.com/podcast/The-Tim-Ferriss-Show/B08K58QX5W" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Audible</a>, or on your favorite podcast platform. 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Paul — On Becoming a Vampire, Whether or Not to Have Kids, Getting Incredible Mentorship for $250, Transformative Experiences, and More (#796)”</span></a> </div><!-- .entry-content --> </article><!-- #post-107733 --> <article id="post-107628" class="post-107628 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-writing-and-blogging tag-oliver-burkeman" style="content-visibility: auto; contain-intrinsic-size: 1px 1000px;"> <header class="entry-header"> <div class="entry-meta"><span class="screen-reader-text">Posted on</span> <a href="https://tim.blog/2025/02/20/for-less-anxiety-and-more-life-treat-your-to-do-list-like-a-diner-menu/" rel="bookmark"><time class="entry-date published" datetime="2025-02-20T07:40:36-08:00">February 20, 2025</time><time class="updated" datetime="2025-02-20T07:41:42-08:00">February 20, 2025</time></a></div><!-- .entry-meta --><h3 class="entry-title"><a href="https://tim.blog/2025/02/20/for-less-anxiety-and-more-life-treat-your-to-do-list-like-a-diner-menu/" rel="bookmark">For Less Anxiety and More Life, Treat Your To-Do List Like a Diner Menu</a></h3> <div class="entry-meta"> <a href="https://tim.blog/2025/02/20/for-less-anxiety-and-more-life-treat-your-to-do-list-like-a-diner-menu/#comments" class="comments-link" >10 Comments</a> </div> <div class="entry-meta"><span class="cat-tags-links"><span class="cat-links">Topics: <span class="screen-reader-text">Categories</span><a href="https://tim.blog/category/writing-and-blogging/" rel="category tag">Writing and Blogging</a></span></span></div><div class="sharedaddy sd-sharing-enabled"><div class="robots-nocontent sd-block sd-social sd-social-icon-text sd-sharing"><h3 class="sd-title">Share this:</h3><div class="sd-content"><ul><li class="share-twitter"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" data-shared="sharing-twitter-107628" class="share-twitter sd-button share-icon" href="https://tim.blog/2025/02/20/for-less-anxiety-and-more-life-treat-your-to-do-list-like-a-diner-menu/?share=twitter" target="_blank" title="Click to share on Twitter" ><span>Twitter</span></a></li><li class="share-facebook"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" data-shared="sharing-facebook-107628" class="share-facebook sd-button share-icon" href="https://tim.blog/2025/02/20/for-less-anxiety-and-more-life-treat-your-to-do-list-like-a-diner-menu/?share=facebook" target="_blank" title="Click to share on Facebook" ><span>Facebook</span></a></li><li class="share-linkedin"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" data-shared="sharing-linkedin-107628" class="share-linkedin sd-button share-icon" href="https://tim.blog/2025/02/20/for-less-anxiety-and-more-life-treat-your-to-do-list-like-a-diner-menu/?share=linkedin" target="_blank" title="Click to share on LinkedIn" ><span>LinkedIn</span></a></li><li class="share-email"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" data-shared="" class="share-email sd-button share-icon" href="mailto:?subject=%5BShared%20Post%5D%20For%20Less%20Anxiety%20and%20More%20Life%2C%20Treat%20Your%20To-Do%20List%20Like%20a%20Diner%20Menu&body=https%3A%2F%2Ftim.blog%2F2025%2F02%2F20%2Ffor-less-anxiety-and-more-life-treat-your-to-do-list-like-a-diner-menu%2F&share=email" target="_blank" title="Click to email a link to a friend" data-email-share-error-title="Do you have email set up?" data-email-share-error-text="If you're having problems sharing via email, you might not have email set up for your browser. 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It’s quite unlike anything I’ve ever read, and one of my favorite chapters is titled “Cosmic Insignificance Therapy,” which Oliver graciously permitted me to share <a href="https://tim.blog/2021/12/15/the-liberation-of-cosmic-insignificance-therapy/#content" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on the blog and on the podcast</a>.</p> <p>In August 2023, Oliver wrote a piece for his newsletter titled “Lists are menus” that stuck with me, and I have thought about it since. You can find it below.</p> <p>For more Oliver, subscribe to his newsletter <a href="https://www.oliverburkeman.com/the-imperfectionist" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>. In case you missed it, also check out his newest <em><strong><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Meditations-Mortals-Embrace-Limitations-Counts/dp/0374611998?tag=offsitoftimfe-20" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Meditations for Mortals: Four Weeks to Embrace Your Limitations and Make Time for What Counts</a></strong></em>.</p> <p>Enjoy!</p> <h2 class="wp-block-heading">Enter Oliver Burkeman</h2> <p>More and more, I think my issues with conventional productivity advice – indeed, with the very notion of productivity – boil down to this: Spending your days trying to <em>get through </em>a list of things you feel you <em>have to do </em>is a fundamentally joyless and soul-destroying way to live, and most productivity problems, like distraction or procrastination or a lack of motivation, can be understood as internal rebellions against a life spent so dispiritingly. And yet most of what passes for expert advice just involves organizing the list differently, or getting through the list more efficiently. Whereas the real trouble lies in the whole underlying idea of life as a matter of slogging your way through a list.</p> <p>I realize, of course, that you may not be a “list person” like me, with my long and somewhat ridiculous history of experimenting with lists in notebooks, digital lists, lists organized by context or project or priority, and so on (and so on and so on). But if you adopt a sufficiently broad definition of a to-do list – ie., as any set of things you feel you need to get done – then it’s clear that really, lists are everywhere. Your “to read” pile is a list. A morning routine is a list (of things you think you need to do each morning). That nagging collection of home improvements you keep meaning to get around to? That constitutes a list, too.</p> <p>Or maybe you’re one of the many people who go through life with a vague sense that there are several important milestones you need to hit before you can truly deem things to be in full working order – to start exercising, find a relationship, work through your childhood issues, sort out your finances? Well, that’s a list, too, in the sense I’m using the word here: a set of tasks you believe you need to get through, in order to feel that everything’s OK.</p> <p>As every productivity geek knows, there’s a certain pleasure in crossing things off lists. (Some of us have been known to add tasks we’ve already completed, so as to cross those ones off, too.) But in the long run, I don’t think this can make up for the basic joylessness of a life spent doing things in order to have them done – and spent, moreover, in the belief that true peace of mind can only come once they’re all out of the way. Which of course they never are.</p> <p>All of which leads to a question I’ve found powerful to reflect on: what if we understood our lists as menus instead?</p> <p>For many years I lived in New York – where, as anyone familiar with the city knows, there’s a kind of diner you can visit at which you’ll be handed a huge menu, bound in fake leather, with perhaps eight or nine laminated pages featuring every imaginable permutation of egg-based dishes, sandwiches, burgers, waffles and salads that the kitchen is capable of conceiving. I love these menus for the sense of crazy abundance they impart. And they help clarify a critical way in which a menu differs from a to-do list: picking just one or two items from a menu is something you <em>get</em> to do, not something you <em>have</em> to do. It’s not a <em>problem</em> that there are so many more things you could order than you’d ever be able to consume in a single visit. It isn’t the case that in an ideal world you’d eat them all, but because you’re not efficient enough at eating you’ve got to settle for just one or two of them, and feel like a failure. That would be ridiculous! The abundance is the point. And the joy is in getting to eat at the restaurant at all.</p> <p>I take it you can see where this is going when it comes to to-do lists: increasingly, I find myself treating my other lists as menus, too. Your “to read” pile or digital equivalent, for example, is most certainly best understood as a menu – a list of things to pick from, rather than one you have to get through. But the same applies to my list of work projects. Sure, the contents of the menu is constrained by various goals and long-term deadlines. But the daily practice is just to pick something appetizing from the menu, instead of grinding through a list. </p> <p>Maybe it’ll come as no surprise to learn I’ve been getting more done this way, too – not least because I’m harnessing the energy of what I feel like doing, rather than suppressing it in order to push onwards through a list.</p> <p>And here’s the kicker: aren’t all to-do lists really menus anyway, whether I choose to think of them that way or not? After all, if there are vastly more things I <em>could </em>do with any given hour or day than I actually <em>can </em>do – if there are a million ways to build a business, to be a better parent, spouse or citizen, live healthily, and so on, yet only time for a handful of them – then in fact we’re always picking from a menu, even if we delude ourselves that what we’re doing is getting through a list.</p> <p>One great benefit of doing this more consciously – of facing up to the fact that lists are menus – is that it shifts the source of gratification. The reward of pleasure in your work, or a sense of meaning, no longer gets doled out stingily, in morsels, en route to some hypothetical moment of future fulfillment when the list is complete and you can finally feel fully satisfied. Instead, the real reward comes from getting to pick something from the menu – from <em>getting to dive in</em> to one of the vast range of possibilities the world has to offer, without any expectation of getting through them all, just like the pleasure of sitting down to a good meal. Which means you get to have the reward right now.</p> <p><em><strong>Oliver Burkeman is the New York Times bestselling author of <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Four-Thousand-Weeks-Management-Mortals/dp/1250849357/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20">Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals</a> (2021) and <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Meditations-Mortals-Embrace-Limitations-Counts/dp/1250397677/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20">Meditations for Mortals: Four Weeks to Embrace Your Limitations and Make Time for What Counts</a> (2024). He lives in Yorkshire in England. </strong></em></p> <p><em>Copyright 2023 by Oliver Burkeman. Reprinted with permission.</em></p> </div><!-- .entry-content --> </article><!-- #post-107628 --> <article id="post-107576" class="post-107576 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-the-tim-ferriss-show tag-4-hour-workweek tag-productivity tag-time-management" style="content-visibility: auto; contain-intrinsic-size: 1px 1000px;"> <header class="entry-header"> <div class="entry-meta"><span class="screen-reader-text">Posted on</span> <a href="https://tim.blog/2025/02/14/the-end-of-time-management/" rel="bookmark"><time class="entry-date published" datetime="2025-02-14T08:44:41-08:00">February 14, 2025</time><time class="updated" datetime="2025-03-02T21:56:34-08:00">March 2, 2025</time></a></div><!-- .entry-meta --><h3 class="entry-title"><a href="https://tim.blog/2025/02/14/the-end-of-time-management/" rel="bookmark">The 4-Hour Workweek Revisited — The End of Time Management (#795)</a></h3> <div class="entry-meta"> <a href="https://tim.blog/2025/02/14/the-end-of-time-management/#comments" class="comments-link" >13 Comments</a> </div> <div class="entry-meta"><span class="cat-tags-links"><span class="cat-links">Topics: <span class="screen-reader-text">Categories</span><a href="https://tim.blog/category/the-tim-ferriss-show/" rel="category tag">The Tim Ferriss Show</a></span></span></div><div class="sharedaddy sd-sharing-enabled"><div class="robots-nocontent sd-block sd-social sd-social-icon-text sd-sharing"><h3 class="sd-title">Share this:</h3><div class="sd-content"><ul><li class="share-twitter"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" data-shared="sharing-twitter-107576" class="share-twitter sd-button share-icon" href="https://tim.blog/2025/02/14/the-end-of-time-management/?share=twitter" target="_blank" title="Click to share on Twitter" ><span>Twitter</span></a></li><li class="share-facebook"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" data-shared="sharing-facebook-107576" class="share-facebook sd-button share-icon" href="https://tim.blog/2025/02/14/the-end-of-time-management/?share=facebook" target="_blank" title="Click to share on Facebook" ><span>Facebook</span></a></li><li class="share-linkedin"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" data-shared="sharing-linkedin-107576" class="share-linkedin sd-button share-icon" href="https://tim.blog/2025/02/14/the-end-of-time-management/?share=linkedin" target="_blank" title="Click to share on LinkedIn" ><span>LinkedIn</span></a></li><li class="share-email"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" data-shared="" class="share-email sd-button share-icon" href="mailto:?subject=%5BShared%20Post%5D%20The%204-Hour%20Workweek%20Revisited%20%E2%80%94%20The%20End%20of%20Time%20Management%20%28%23795%29&body=https%3A%2F%2Ftim.blog%2F2025%2F02%2F14%2Fthe-end-of-time-management%2F&share=email" target="_blank" title="Click to email a link to a friend" data-email-share-error-title="Do you have email set up?" data-email-share-error-text="If you're having problems sharing via email, you might not have email set up for your browser. 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What stands the test of time and hasn’t lost any potency? This episode features one of the most important chapters from the audiobook of <em>The 4-Hour Workweek</em>. It includes tools and frameworks that I use to this day, including Pareto’s Law and Parkinson’s Law. </p> <p>The chapter is narrated by the great voice actor Ray Porter. 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the middle-grade series <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074CCKTNR/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20"><em>Alcatraz vs. the Evil Librarians</em></a>; and the young-adult novels <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Rithmatist-Brandon-Sanderson-ebook/dp/B00AJGNICW/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20"><em>The Rithmatist</em></a>, the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09C1YZTSV/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20"><em>Reckoners</em></a> trilogy, and the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PGLGJBH/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20"><em>Skyward</em></a> series. He has sold more than 40 million books in 35 languages, and he is a four-time nominee for the Hugo Awards, winning in 2013 for his novella <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-Soul-Elantris-Book-ebook/dp/B00A1XOPE8/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20"><em>The Emperor’s Soul</em></a>. That same year, he was chosen to complete Robert Jordan’s <em>The Wheel of Time</em> series, culminating in <em>A Memory of Light</em>. </p> <p>Brandon cohosts (with fellow author Dan Wells) the popular <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02ENJRIxzcU&list=PLSH_xM-KC3Zv3L2dLcX3WmtbQsfB8YSSw"><em>Intentionally Blank</em></a> podcast and teaches creative writing at Brigham Young University.</p> <p>Please enjoy!</p> <p><strong><em><strong><em>Listen to the episode on <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/794-brandon-sanderson-on-building-a-fiction-empire/id863897795?i=1000689414620">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0dJLtcP1H8l2hSFG0Ppe37?si=mCdlQO5jTya8qPeZNLD4pw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/+AAKebvtEXhM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Overcast</a>, <a href="https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/2031148#" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Podcast Addict</a>, <a href="https://pca.st/timferriss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pocket Casts</a>, <a href="https://castbox.fm/channel/id1059468?country=us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Castbox</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuu6fDad2eJyWPm9dQfuorm2uuYHBZDCB">YouTube Music</a>, <strong><em><strong><em><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9814f3cc-1dc5-4003-b816-44a8eb6bf666/the-tim-ferriss-show" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Amazon Music</a>, </em></strong></em></strong><a href="https://www.audible.com/podcast/The-Tim-Ferriss-Show/B08K58QX5W" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Audible</a>, or on your favorite podcast platform</em></strong>. <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/wIgI_DiwZh4?si=HeVF14LmAMviFepJ">Watch the interview on YouTube</a>.</em></strong></p> <p><em><strong><b style="font-style: italic">This episode is brought to you by </b><a style="font-style: italic;font-weight: bold" href="https://cressetcapital.com/tim" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cresset</a> prestigious family office for CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs;<b style="font-style: italic"> </b><a target="_blank" href="https://seed.com/tim">Seed’s DS-01® Daily Synbiotic</a> broad spectrum 24-strain probiotic + prebiotic</strong>; <a href="https://wealthfront.com/Tim" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><strong>Wealthfront</strong></a><strong> high-yield cash account.</strong></em></p> <p><em>The transcript of this episode <a href="https://tim.blog/2025/02/07/brandon-sanderson-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">can be found here</a>. 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See full disclosures <a target="_blank" href="https://wealthfront.com/tim">here</a>. </em></p> <hr class="wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity"/> <p><strong><a href="https://tim.blog/2024/03/13/hugh-howey/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Want to hear</a> an episode with another publishing-savvy worldbuilder?</strong> Listen to my interview with <em>Silo</em> author <strong><a href="https://tim.blog/2024/03/13/hugh-howey/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hugh Howey</a></strong> in which we discussed breaking formula with a literary sleight of hand, the benefits of buying back rights and self-publishing, why authors should strive for a reader-first vs. publisher-first mindset, how authors can find deal leverage early on, fiction that inspires better writing, keys to fruitful collaboration, AI’s present-and-future impact on publishing, <a href="https://tim.blog/2024/03/13/hugh-howey/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">and much more</a>.</p> <hr class="wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity"/> <p><strong>What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? 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Seth is also the creator of <a target="_blank" href="https://thecarbonalmanac.org/">The Carbon Almanac</a>, a global initiative focused on climate action.</p> <p>Please enjoy!</p> <p><strong><em><strong><em>Listen to the episode on <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/792-seth-godin-on-playing-the-right-game-and-strategy/id863897795?i=1000686897216">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1OmMrJ1gswYVOUxc4A4SFR" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/+AAKebsd6gHo" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Overcast</a>, <a href="https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/2031148#" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Podcast Addict</a>, <a href="https://pca.st/timferriss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pocket Casts</a>, <a href="https://castbox.fm/channel/id1059468?country=us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Castbox</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuu6fDad2eJyWPm9dQfuorm2uuYHBZDCB">YouTube Music</a>, <strong><em><strong><em><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9814f3cc-1dc5-4003-b816-44a8eb6bf666/the-tim-ferriss-show" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Amazon Music</a>, </em></strong></em></strong><a href="https://www.audible.com/podcast/The-Tim-Ferriss-Show/B08K58QX5W" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Audible</a>, or on your favorite podcast platform</em></strong>. <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/yhc1sM2NnQY?si=c_cRCF-cUEIp7C-b">Watch the interview on YouTube</a>.</em></strong></p> <p><strong><em><b style="font-style: italic;">This episode is brought to you by </b><a style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;" href="https://cressetcapital.com/tim" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cresset</a> prestigious family office for CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs;<b style="font-style: italic;"> </b><a style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;" href="https://drinkag1.com/tim" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">AG1</a><b style="font-style: italic;"> all-in-one nutritional supplement</b>; and <a href="https://shopify.com/tim" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shopify</a> global commerce platform, providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business.</em></strong></p> <p><em>The transcript of this episode <a href="https://tim.blog/2025/01/31/seth-godin-strategy-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">can be found here</a>. 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And for me—as a writer and entrepreneur—I definitely gravitate toward making. So it’s important that I find the right people who are great at managing. That’s why I trust this episode’s sponsor, <a target="_blank" href="http://cressetcapital.com/tim">Cresset Family Office</a>. </p> <p>Cresset is a prestigious family office for CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs. They handle the complex financial planning, uncertain tax strategies, timely exit planning, bill pay and wires, and all the other parts of wealth management that would otherwise pull me away from doing what I love most: making things, mastering skills, and spending time with the people I care about. Experience the freedom of focusing on what matters to you with the support of a top wealth management team. Schedule a call today at <a target="_blank" href="http://cressetcapital.com/tim">cressetcapital.com/Tim</a> to see how Cresset can help streamline your financial plans and grow your wealth.</p> <p><em>I’m a client of Cresset. 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A kid that’s interested in something—that is absolutely precious, and I want to cultivate that. I want to pour fuel on that fire.”</strong><br />— Aaron Stupple</p> </blockquote> <p>This episode is more of a debate than my usual interviews. I hope you enjoy the extra spice, and if you like it, please <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/tferriss">let me know at @tferriss on X</a>. This is a sharp contrast with <a href="https://tim.blog/2024/12/27/dr-becky-kennedy-good-inside/">the Dr. Becky Kennedy episode</a>, and I encourage you to listen to both.</p> <p><strong>Aaron Stupple</strong> (<a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/astupple">@astupple</a>) is a board-certified internal medicine physician. He focuses on reviving the non-coercive parenting movement derived from the philosophy of Popper and Deutsch called Taking Children Seriously. 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He has invested in more than 100 companies, including many mega-successes, such as Twitter, Uber, Notion, Opendoor, Postmates, and Wish.</p> <p>Please enjoy!</p> <p><strong><em>This episode is brought to you by <a href="https://sundaysfordogs.com/tim" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sundays for Dogs</a> ultra-high-quality dog food, <a href="https://seed.com/tim" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Seed’s DS-01® Daily Synbiotic broad spectrum 24-strain probiotic + prebiotic</a>, and <a href="http://shipstation.com/tim" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">ShipStation</a> shipping software. </em></strong></p> <p><strong><em><strong><em>Listen to the episode on <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/788-naval-ravikant-and-aaron-stupple-how-to-raise/id863897795?i=1000684308338">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/5YOhdYK36r746KmNcJ6l6x" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://overcast.fm/+AAKebtCdEUw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Overcast</a>, <a href="https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/2031148#" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Podcast Addict</a>, <a href="https://pca.st/timferriss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pocket Casts</a>, <a href="https://castbox.fm/channel/id1059468?country=us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Castbox</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuu6fDad2eJyWPm9dQfuorm2uuYHBZDCB">YouTube Music</a>, <strong><em><strong><em><a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/9814f3cc-1dc5-4003-b816-44a8eb6bf666/the-tim-ferriss-show" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Amazon Music</a>, </em></strong></em></strong><a href="https://www.audible.com/podcast/The-Tim-Ferriss-Show/B08K58QX5W" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Audible</a>, or on your favorite podcast platform</em></strong></em>.<em> <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/2bZSzObqAjE?si=AC8sI0JXrjCewkJm">Watch the interview on YouTube</a>.</em></strong></p> <p><em>The transcript of this episode <a href="https://tim.blog/2025/01/20/naval-ravikant-sovereign-child-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">can be found here</a>. 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