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</ul> </div> <div id="container"> <div id="content"> <div class="padder"> <div class="page" id="blog-single" role="main"> <div id="post-58434" class="post-58434 post type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-2012-chinese-grand-prix category-2012-f1-season category-stats-and-facts tag-2012-chinese-grand-prix-2 tag-2012-f1-season tag-chinese-grand-prix tag-f1 tag-f1-2012 tag-f1-racing tag-formula-1 tag-formula-one tag-formula-one-2012 tag-grand-prix tag-motorsport"> <div class="post-content"> <h2 class="posttitle"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/" rel="bookmark" title=" Rosberg becomes F1′s third second-generation race winner">Rosberg becomes F1′s third second-generation race winner</a></h2> <h3 class="subtitle">2012 Chinese Grand Prix stats and facts</h3> <div class="article-meta"> <div class="article-date">April 16, 2012 at 3:09 pm by <a rel="author" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/keithcollantine/" title="Keith Collantine">Keith Collantine</a></div> <div class="article-comments"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/#comments" class="comments-link" title="Comment on Rosberg becomes F1′s third second-generation race winner">88 comments</a> </div> </div> <div class="entry"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/1985-australian-grand-prix-4/" rel="attachment wp-att-58793"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/will-krosb-adel-1985-5-470x314.jpg" alt="Keke Rosberg, Williams, Adelaide, 1985" title="Keke Rosberg, Williams, Adelaide, 1985" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-58793"/></a><a title="Nico Rosberg" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/nico-rosberg/">Nico Rosberg</a> scored his first Formula 1 race victory at his 111th attempt in the Chinese Grand Prix.</p> <p>Rosberg is the third son of a former world championship race winner to win a race himself: the others being <a title="Damon Hill" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/whos-who/whos-who-h/damon-hill/">Damon Hill</a> (son of Graham Hill) and Jacques Villeneuve (son of Gilles Villeneuve).</p> <p>However <a title="Keke Rosberg" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/whos-who/whos-who-r/keke-rosberg/">Keke Rosberg</a> is the first Grand Prix winner to see his son win a race – Graham Hill and Gilles Villeneuve died before their sons followed in their footsteps.</p> <p>Of the three father-and-son teams, the Hills have three world championships and 36 race wins between them, the Villeneuves one world championship and 17 race wins, and the Rosbergs one world championship and six race wins – so far.</p> <p>Only four drivers took longer to achieve their first wins than Nico Rosberg did:</p> <table class="thin"> <tr> <td><strong>Driver</strong></td> <td><strong>First win</strong></td> <td><strong>Starts</strong></td> </tr> <tr> <td><a title="Mark Webber" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/mark-webber/">Mark Webber</a></td> <td>2009 German Grand Prix</td> <td>130</td> </tr> <tr> <td><a title="Rubens Barrichello" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/whos-who/whos-who-b/rubens-barrichello/">Rubens Barrichello</a></td> <td>2000 German Grand Prix</td> <td>124</td> </tr> <tr> <td><a title="Jarno Trulli" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/whos-who/whos-who-t/jarno-trulli/">Jarno Trulli</a></td> <td>2004 Monaco Grand Prix</td> <td>117</td> </tr> <tr> <td><a title="Jenson Button" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/jenson-button/">Jenson Button</a></td> <td>2006 Hungarian Grand Prix</td> <td>113</td> </tr> <tr> <td><a title="Nico Rosberg" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/nico-rosberg/">Nico Rosberg</a></td> <td>2012 Chinese Grand Prix</td> <td>111</td> </tr> </table> <p>One other driver took more than 100 starts to score his first win: <a title="Giancarlo Fisichella" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/whos-who/whos-who-f/giancarlo-fisichella/">Giancarlo Fisichella</a> (110).</p> <p>Rosberg’s father was also a comparatively late bloomer, scoring his first F1 win at his 63rd attempt in his fifth season. He scored his last F1 win in the 1985 Australian Grand Prix (pictured) when Nico was four months old.</p> <p>The younger Rosberg became the 103rd driver to win a race. The last new winner was <a title="Mark Webber" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/mark-webber/">Mark Webber</a> in the 2009 German Grand Prix.</p> <p>Rosberg also became the 95th driver to start a race from pole position. His last win and pole position in any discipline came in his final GP2 appearance at Bahrain in 2005, when he won the championship.</p> <p><a title="Mercedes" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/f1-teams/mercedes/">Mercedes</a> scored their first win since their return to the sport as a full constructor two years ago.</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/merc-fang-taru-monz-1955/" rel="attachment wp-att-58790"><img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/merc-fang-taru-monz-1955-470x352.jpg" alt="Juan Manuel Fangio, Piero Taruffi, Mercedes, Monza, 1955" title="Juan Manuel Fangio, Piero Taruffi, Mercedes, Monza, 1955" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-58790"/></a>Their last race win and pole position came in their final appearance in their previous incarnation, when <a title="Juan Manuel Fangio" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/whos-who/whos-who-f/juan-manuel-fangio/">Juan Manuel Fangio</a> won the 1955 Italian Grand Prix from pole position (pictured). They now have ten Grand Prix wins, giving them as many as Alfa Romeo.</p> <p>The Chinese Grand Prix continues to produce different winners. In nine races he have seen eighth different victors: Rubens Barrichello, <a title="Fernando Alonso" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/fernando-alonso/">Fernando Alonso</a>, Michael Schumacher, Kimi Raikkonen, Sebastian Vettel, Jenson Button, Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton – the latter driver the only one to have won more than once.</p> <p>In a weekend of firsts, <a title="Kamui Kobayashi" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/kamui-kobayashi/">Kamui Kobayashi</a> set the fastest lap of the race, becoming the 120th driver to do so. This was also the first fastest lap for Sauber as an independent constructor (they scored two as BMW-Sauber).</p> <p>Third on the grid was Kobayashi’s best qualifying position to date. <a title="Michael Schumacher" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/michael-schumacher/">Michael Schumacher</a> started second, his highest starting position since his comeback, and the 116th front row start for the driver who has made more than anyone else.</p> <p>The first three races of the season have all seen <a title="Lewis Hamilton" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/lewis-hamilton/">Lewis Hamilton</a> finish third and Webber finish fourth.</p> <p>Sixth for <a title="Romain Grosjean" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/romain-grosjean/">Romain Grosjean</a> gave him the first points of his F1 career, and Pastor Maldonado got his first points of the year with eighth.</p> <p>That means <a title="Felipe Massa" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/felipe-massa/">Felipe Massa</a> is the only driver outside of the ‘small three’ teams who is yet to score this year.</p> <p><a title="Williams" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/f1-teams/williams/">Williams</a> had both cars in the points for the first time since the 2010 Korean Grand Prix.</p> <p><a title="Daniel Ricciardo" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/daniel-ricciardo/">Daniel Ricciardo</a> has been more than half-a-second quicker than team mate Jean-Eric Vergne in qualifying this year. But Vergne has spent <a href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/statistics/2012-f1-statistics/driver-form-guides/daniel-ricciardo/">142 out of 170 laps ahead of his team mate</a>.</p> <p>As last year, the race had 23 finishers. Only one race has seen more finishers – last year’s European Grand Prix, where all 24 runners were classified. The only other race with 23 finishers was also last year, in Japan.</p> <p>The high number of finishers is a worry for <a title="Caterham" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/f1-information/f1-teams/caterham/">Caterham</a>, who need at least a 14th and 15th place to move ahead of Marussia into the lucrative top ten in the constructors’ championship.</p> <p>Review the year so far in statistics here:</p> <ul> <li><a title="2012 F1 championship points" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/statistics/2012-f1-statistics/championship-points/">2012 F1 championship points</a></li> <li><a title="2012 F1 season records" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/statistics/2012-f1-statistics/season-records/">2012 F1 season records</a></li> <li><a title="2012 F1 race data" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/statistics/2012-f1-statistics/race-data/">2012 F1 race data</a></li> <li><a title="2012 F1 qualifying data" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/statistics/2012-f1-statistics/qualifying-data/">2012 F1 qualifying data</a></li> <li><a title="2012 F1 retirements and penalties" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/statistics/2012-f1-statistics/retirements-penalties/">2012 F1 retirements and penalties</a></li> <li><a title="2012 F1 strategy and pit stops" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/statistics/2012-f1-statistics/strategy-pit-stops/">2012 F1 strategy and pit stops</a></li> <li><a title="2012 F1 driver forum guides" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/statistics/2012-f1-statistics/driver-form-guides/">2012 F1 driver form guides</a></li> </ul> <p>Spotted any other interesting stats and facts from the Chinese Grand Prix? 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Given that you then go on to list the four drivers with more starts before 1st win than Nico.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991246#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991246", "991246", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="26014" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-keithcollantine bypostauthor odd alt depth-2" id="comment-991256"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/keithcollantine/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/1/cf2b80881ec29f3d7a7c3e63ed49c6bc-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-1-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/keithcollantine/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Keith Collantine</a> (@keithcollantine) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991256"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 15:28</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/hammerheadgb/" rel="nofollow">@hammerheadgb</a> Fixed, thanks.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991256#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991256", "991256", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment even depth-3" id="comment-991298"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/428f7209a828eeed43105dd6e9636dc4?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> FlyingLobster27 said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991298"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 16:40</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Speaking of that stat, could we have a number of seasons before the first victory?<br/> As you say, Keke was a late winner aswell, but 81 GPs in the late 70s-early 80s seems comparable, in terms of actual time, to his sons 111. That makes the parallel quite interesting.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991298#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991298", "991298", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-enigma odd alt depth-4" id="comment-991308"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/enigma/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16038/c14af34c41edc540c1cb63df8a83abeb-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16038-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/enigma/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Enigma</a> (@enigma) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991308"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 17:01</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Also, with more and more races every year, it’s ever easier to win a race. Rosberg has 20 opportunities a year, Moss (who also got his first win with Mercedes) only had 8 or 10 a year.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991308#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991308", "991308", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16038" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-timg even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-991247"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/timg/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/24dc3dd21392ea99065d259b79285614?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=50&r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-13926-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/timg/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">TimG</a> (@timg) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991247"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 15:22</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>First podium sweep by an engine supplier since Renault in Monaco in 2010, despite there only being four engine suppliers. </p> <p>First podium sweep by Mercedes since the 2010 Chinese GP – where the top three were the same as yesterday.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991247#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991247", "991247", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="13926" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-enigma odd alt thread-even depth-1" id="comment-991250"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/enigma/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16038/c14af34c41edc540c1cb63df8a83abeb-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16038-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/enigma/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Enigma</a> (@enigma) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991250"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 15:27</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Some stats&facts I noticed:<br/> - The podium is the same as it was here two years ago, albeit in a different order<br/> - Charles Pic is now the only current driver without a point in F1<br/> - Since Barrichello’s win in Monza 2009, all race victories were shared between 5 drivers – Alonso, Hamilton, Webber, Button and Vettel. Until yesterday, that is.<br/> - The last 6 races have had different winners<br/> - This is the first time Vettel failed to make Q3 since late 2009 (not 100% sure which race)</p> <p>And one a bit off topic: 5 teams have drivers that have both been on the podium – the big 4 and one that’s yet to score points.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991250#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991250", "991250", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16038" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-meander even depth-2" id="comment-991264"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/meander/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/3264/4c4aa9b57bbeeacc79d895dd4c1d4f84-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-3264-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/meander/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Meander</a> (@meander) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991264"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 15:36</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Nice ones. 6 consecutive winners. Wow.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991264#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991264", "991264", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="3264" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-enigma odd alt depth-3" id="comment-991275"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/enigma/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16038/c14af34c41edc540c1cb63df8a83abeb-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16038-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/enigma/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Enigma</a> (@enigma) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991275"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 15:57</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>The same happened in 2009, with 6 different winners in a row – right after Button’s domination!</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991275#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991275", "991275", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16038" title="Report 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href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991286"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 16:17</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Right – thanks for reminding me :)</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991286#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991286", "991286", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16038" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-matt90 even depth-2" id="comment-991380"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/matt90/" 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Unless I’ve missed something, this has only happened a few times, and the record was 5 different constructors in the first 5 races of 1983 (although I got bored and didn’t look before the mid-60′s).</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991380#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991380", "991380", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16192" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment odd alt depth-3" id="comment-991427"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3d8e4a98dc925451d35999a1a4abd13e?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> Paul Gilbert said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991427"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 22:30</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>2010 managed it as well (although Vettel could easily have won all 3 races).</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991427#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991427", "991427", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-matt90 even depth-4" id="comment-991439"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/matt90/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16192/ea5c2e610a4a84317458fa6c82169817-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16192-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/matt90/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">matt90</a> (@matt90) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991439"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 23:32</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Crap. Don’t know how I missed that. In that case it’s the SECOND time since 1990 (assuming I haven’t missed any others), but has virtually no chance of matching the record unless Red Bull and Lotus (or perhaps a lucky Sauber) have a great couple of races.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991439#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991439", "991439", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16192" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-jcost odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-991252"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/jcost/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/53965/01daab17f6040d8bdad2c663fb007608-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-53965-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/jcost/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">JCost</a> (@jcost) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991252"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 15:27</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Let’s hope Mercedes is there to stay. Good on Saturdays and good on Sundays. Let’s hope expected high temperatures in Bahrain don’t burn their tyres.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991252#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991252", "991252", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="53965" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-elbasque even depth-2" id="comment-991377"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/elbasque/" rel="nofollow"> <img 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In the middle though, Nico Hülkenberg didn’t convert his first pole (which was a huge surprise) to victory.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991260#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991260", "991260", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16540" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-demos12 odd alt depth-2" id="comment-991409"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/demos12/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3462b5a781c5c22f705f6208a105f4d3?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=25&r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-61511-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/demos12/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Felix Hemsted</a> (@demos12) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991409"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 21:10</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>presumably you mean ‘won their first race after taking their first pole position’</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991409#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991409", "991409", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="61511" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-meander even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-991262"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/meander/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/3264/4c4aa9b57bbeeacc79d895dd4c1d4f84-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-3264-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/meander/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Meander</a> (@meander) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991262"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 15:34</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Is there a list somewhere stating all the new winners in chronological order? Three years seems like a pretty long time between occasions, but I bet there’s been longer. Wasn’t it something like ’86 (Berger) to ’92, all races won by the same 5 or 6 drivers (combo broken by Schumacher) ? I might be wildly mistaken though.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991262#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991262", "991262", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="3264" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-meander odd alt depth-2" id="comment-991265"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/meander/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/3264/4c4aa9b57bbeeacc79d895dd4c1d4f84-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-3264-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/meander/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Meander</a> (@meander) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991265"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 15:40</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Nevermind, I found out you can sort the table at <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_Grand_Prix_winners" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_Grand_Prix_winners</a> by first win!</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991265#respond" 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class="url">TimG</a> (@timg) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991268"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 15:43</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>You’re mistaken, but not wildly – between Berger’s first in ’86 and Schumacher’s first in 1992 the wins were shared between eight drivers: Senna, Prost, Berger, Mansell, Piquet, Patrese, Boutsen and Nannini.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991268#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991268", "991268", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="13926" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li 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I realized I missed Boutsen and Nannini’s wins. The stretch from late ’82 to Boutsen’s first win in ’89 is impressive in that sense as well.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991271#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991271", "991271", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="3264" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment even depth-2" id="comment-991269"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6682f43dbf753c69c13109638d6c9488?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> Ilanin said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991269"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 15:45</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I posted this on another site, but to answers your question:</p> <p>It is 1007 days since Mark Webber won the German Grand Prix in 2009. This is the second longest interval between maiden race wins in F1; the only person whose first victory ended a longer drought is actually Rosberg’s team-mate. Michael Schumacher’s victory in the 1992 Belgian Grand Prix was the first maiden victory since Alessandro Nannini’s win in the 1989 Japanese Grand Prix, 1095 days previously. </p> <p>Conversely, there were no seasons between 1957 and 1983 which didn’t contain somebody’s first grand prix victory. In 1982 five drivers (Patrese, Tambay, Alboreto, Keke Rosberg, and de Angelis) won their first races, and Tambay, de Angelis, and daddy Rosberg made up F1′s only ever three races in a row won by drivers who had not won a Grand Prix before. This might explain why there were no new winners in ’83. </p> <p>The mean length of time between first Grand Prix wins is 248 days and the standard deviation is 246 days. This makes it look suspiciously like drivers achieving their maiden Grand Prix victory follows a Poisson distribution, but I am not writing for Aaron Schatz any more, so I won’t go further and make an article about it.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991269#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991269", "991269", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-ned-flanders odd alt depth-3" id="comment-991296"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/ned-flanders/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/8369/55b32c5364928ed3faf1ce5bc0d78012-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-8369-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/ned-flanders/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ned Flanders</a> (@ned-flanders) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991296"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 16:32</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>In both 2003 and 2008 I believe three drivers won their first race:</p> <p>2003: Raikkonen, Fisichella, Alonso<br/> 2008: Kubica, Kovalainen, Vettel</p> <p>And in 2006 there were consecutive debut wins for Button and Massa in Hungary and Turkey. This also happened in 2003 with Raikkonen and Fischella, but I can´t think of any other instances of this happening off the top of my head</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991296#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991296", "991296", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="8369" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment even depth-4" id="comment-991302"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6682f43dbf753c69c13109638d6c9488?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> Ilanin said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991302"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 16:48</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Overall new winners have become much less frequent since the resolution of the FISA-FOCA war finally came to an end during the 1982 season. From 1950 to 1982, there were only two seasons which didn’t have new race winners – 1954 and 1957 (dominated by Moss and Fangio). Since then, races have only been won by drivers who had already won races in 1983, 1984, 1987, 1988, 1991, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2005, 2010 and 2011.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991302#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991302", "991302", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment odd alt depth-4" id="comment-991307"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6682f43dbf753c69c13109638d6c9488?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> Ilanin said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991307"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 17:00</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>As my other comment suggests, this sort of thing used to be a lot more common. There were three new race winners in 1959, 1961, 1962, 1971, four in 1974 and 1975, three again in 1977, 1980, and 1995, and consecutive new race winners in 1950 (obviously), 1951, 1959, 1961, 1962, 1967, 1968, 1973, 1974 (twice!), 1977, 1980, 1982′s 3-in-a-row, and the two you mentioned.</p> <p>My guess is that the change in the frequency of new winners that seems to have happened abruptly in the early 1980s was caused in part by the influence of turbocharged engines limited race-winning opportunities to just a few teams and in part by the greater influx of money into F1 beginning around that point making team management more conservative. Similarly, the mid-1970s were a much more wide-open era due to the wide availability of the Cosworth DFV and the poor understanding of aerodynamics which was just beginning to have a major effect.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991307#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991307", "991307", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-tango even depth-5" id="comment-991337"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/tango/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/22920/f7b08798c22544721f8680aa1af56203-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-22920-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/tango/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Tango</a> (@tango) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991337"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 17:50</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>There’s also higher Reliability leaving little space for slower cars to perform. As alpha dog drivers tend to be in a better cars, young aspiring cubs could build on fast car failure by emerging from the pack.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-bascb odd alt depth-5" id="comment-991367"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/bascb/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16036/e38ca0c3ce4ada4341bbd088d580aab0-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16036-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/bascb/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">BasCB</a> (@bascb) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991367"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 19:18</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Maybe another part of the reason why this changed is the fact that nowadays (top-)drivers last much longer, as they do not tend to die that often anymore (fortunately safety was hugely improved).</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-us_peter even depth-3" id="comment-991455"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/us_peter/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16197/96a58ff4221d786d6eb15109fa31dce5-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16197-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/us_peter/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">US_Peter</a> (@us_peter) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991455"><span class="time-since">17th April 2012, 0:20</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I think you actually meant that there were no years without new race winners between ’54 and ’83, not ’57 and ’83. There were first time race winners in ’55, ’56, & ’57, but not in ’54. At least according to that Wikipedia table…</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991455#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991455", "991455", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16197" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-even depth-1" id="comment-991295"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/889b7f46a8135aaa1d23a918a2a9a684?s=50&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D50&r=G" class="avatar avatar-50 photo" height="50" width="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> sumedh said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991295"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 16:31</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>The last three guys to record their maiden wins have all done it from pole – Vettel in Monza 2008, Webber in Nurburgring 2009 and Rosberg in Shanghai 2012.</p> <p>The last time Red Bull or Mclaren didn’t win two consecutive races was in 2010 Monza and 2010 Singapore. And before that it was 2009 Spa and 2009 Monza.</p> <p>This is the first time since the third race of the 2010 season – Malaysian GP – that the championship is led by a driver who is yet to win a race. Felipe led the standings then and Lewis leads the standings now.</p> <p>Red Bull have now not featured on podium in two races this season. This phenomenon occurred only once in 2011 – at the Abu Dhabi GP. Before that, it happened in 2010 – at the Korean GP.</p> <p>This is only the second time in Schumi’s career that his team-mate has a won a race before him in the season. This happened in 1999 last.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991295#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991295", "991295", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-ned-flanders even depth-2" id="comment-991300"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/ned-flanders/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/8369/55b32c5364928ed3faf1ce5bc0d78012-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-8369-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/ned-flanders/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Ned Flanders</a> (@ned-flanders) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991300"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 16:40</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <blockquote><p>The last three guys to record their maiden wins have all done it from pole – Vettel in Monza 2008, Webber in Nurburgring 2009 and Rosberg in Shanghai 2012. </p></blockquote> <p>The three maiden race winners maiden to that all started from the front row to, if my memory serves me right:</p> <p>Heikki Kovalainen, 2nd Hungary 2008<br/> Robert Kubica, 2nd Canada 2008<br/> Felipe Massa, 1st Turkey 2006</p> <p>The last new winner to start anywhere other than the front row was Jenson Button at the 2006 Hungarian GP, who started just a tad further back in 14th!</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991300#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991300", "991300", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="8369" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment odd alt depth-3" id="comment-991306"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/889b7f46a8135aaa1d23a918a2a9a684?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> sumedh said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991306"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 17:00</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Taking the pole to win stat further – we have now had 5 consecutive races where the pole sitter hasn’t won the race. The last time this streak was 5 or more races was in 2009-2010 (2009 Brazil – 2010 China, 6 races) when the pole sitter didn’t win the race. And before that it was way back in 2002 the Austrian GP to the 2002 French GP, 6 races. The 2009-10 sequence happened mainly due to freak weather and the Red Bull’s unreliability. The 2002 streak happened partly because Williams and Montoya produced a qualifying car and partly because of what happened at 2002 Austrian GP.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991306#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991306", "991306", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment even depth-4" id="comment-991316"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/889b7f46a8135aaa1d23a918a2a9a684?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F0.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> sumedh said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991316"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 17:18</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Oops! I got my numbers wrong. Nico won from pole!! So, this streak was only 4 races long..</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991316#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991316", "991316", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-991305"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/50a11f50f86106449ebd132ec8eb21ec?s=50&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D50&r=G" class="avatar avatar-50 photo" height="50" width="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> CNSZU said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991305"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 17:00</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>F1 is being devalued by having sons racing. How can you call F1 the pinnacle of motorsport when it’s a father and son business?</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991305#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991305", "991305", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-kingshark even depth-2" id="comment-991313"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/kingshark/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/f9e31fb0020863fa7825bf4897fee62f?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=25&r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-31025-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/kingshark/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Kingshark</a> (@kingshark) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991313"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 17:10</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Who cares who’s in Formula One? As long as they are the best drivers in the world. Having sons or relatives from older drivers has absolutely no effect and should be ignored. Certainly we don’t refer to Nico as “Keke’s son” anymore, do we? Nico has build his own reputation.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991313#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991313", "991313", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="31025" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-george odd alt depth-3" id="comment-991341"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/george/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16064/21f250fa7da52c9d14cf586369acf4e7-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16064-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/george/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">George</a> (@george) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991341"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 18:03</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Indeed, just look at Piquet Jr :D</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991341#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991341", "991341", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16064" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-joey-poey even depth-2" id="comment-991344"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/joey-poey/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/19756/cb56670ab44f0dd0117c22f354390c81-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-19756-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/joey-poey/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Joey-Poey</a> (@joey-poey) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991344"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 18:12</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Racing and F1 have long been a family affair. This is nothing new. I don’t think it brings the sport into disrepute at all.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991344#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991344", "991344", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="19756" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-robbie odd alt depth-2" id="comment-991348"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/robbie/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/720b7724d55d047b4c340eb3df33b5c8?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=25&r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-35992-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/robbie/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Robbie</a> (@robbie) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991348"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 18:32</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I wouldn’t be surprised if more sons of famous race car drivers have failed at it than have succeeded. Just because a guy is the son of a driver doesn’t mean he is going to love it and go on to succeed at it like his dad did. A person has to start off by loving it first and foremost in order to get that good at it. So sure, it helps when as a kid you have an ‘in’…but that by no means is a guarantee of anything. If it was, NR wouldn’t have needed this long for his first win. Nor DH, and JV wouldn’t have needed to ‘pay his dues’ in CART before going to F1.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991348#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991348", "991348", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="35992" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment even depth-3" id="comment-991419"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7001758cc4a9ecc35837860b5f5044e4?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> AJB said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991419"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 21:39</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I don’t like to use the word ‘failed’ in this context – partly because some never really tried to make it in F1, and some are still young, but looking down the list of race winners we have sons and daughters who have raced in professional motorsport but haven’t won a GP:<br/> Greg/Leo Mansell, Paul Stewart, Matias Lauda, Piquet Jr, Geoff/Gary Brabham, Michael/Jeff Andretti, Christian Jones, Tomas/Toby Scheckter, Vanina Ickx, Alex Gurney, Derek Hill and sadly of course Henry Surtees (RIP)<br/> Henry Surtees</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" 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class="comment-entry"> <p>And Nicolas Prost as well.<br/> And Christian Fittipaldi , Juan Fangio II , John Andretti, and Bruno Senna (for now…) if including nephews.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991423#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991423", "991423", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-matt90 even depth-4" id="comment-991426"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/matt90/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16192/ea5c2e610a4a84317458fa6c82169817-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16192-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div 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there, for a split second I thought that said Vanilla Ice, not Vanina Ickx…</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991456#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991456", "991456", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16197" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-jamesf1 even depth-2" id="comment-991384"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/jamesf1/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/35904/20b300423a329f90990d2065dc4d3afe-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-35904-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/jamesf1/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">James</a> (@jamesf1) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991384"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 19:48</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>It’s hardly that. Name sakes havent really given new drivers a yellow brick road to get into motorsport, it’s because motorsport is in their blood. The kid sees his dad do it, he/she wants to do it. Blame learnt behaviour rather than a right of passage.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991384#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991384", "991384", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="35904" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-mike odd alt depth-3" id="comment-991744"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/mike/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16104/944b399b44bac3b78b97f6ca831d07ae-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16104-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/mike/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Mike</a> (@mike) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991744"><span class="time-since">17th April 2012, 14:55</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Exactly, Having a dad in the business does make it easier for sure, however it’s not a free ride. Look at Hamilton’s brother for instance, he can easily get into racing cars. But his chance on making it anywhere near F1 is purely down to talent, experience and results.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991744#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991744", "991744", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16104" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment even depth-2" id="comment-991410"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/7001758cc4a9ecc35837860b5f5044e4?s=25&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D25&r=G" class="avatar avatar-25 photo" height="25" width="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> AJB said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991410"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 21:15</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Nothing new under the sun about that. Sport, TV, movies, music… all must be at least 25% made up of people who’s parents were big successes in the same business (Hill, Villeneuve, Rosberg). And another percentage who’s parents were amateur enthusiasts willing to support their sons (Button), and then the ones who’s parents had the means to pay their kids way to get a start in that business (Senna). Sure, it’s ‘unfair’ but that’s the way it is. Doesn’t guarantee success later on… otherwise all the Beatles kids would’ve had pretty amazing music careers by now.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991410#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991410", "991410", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-andrewtanner odd alt depth-2" id="comment-991718"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/andrewtanner/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/18121/aef0618ae60ed259dfe144818957e0dc-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-18121-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/andrewtanner/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">AndrewTanner</a> (@andrewtanner) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991718"><span class="time-since">17th April 2012, 13:38</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Considering two out of the three have gone on to win world championships I think you can class them as all being there on merit.</p> <p>Formula 1 won’t do you any favours based on your relatives. They’re more interested in your sponsorship money.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991718#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991718", "991718", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="18121" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-robbie even thread-even depth-1" id="comment-991309"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/robbie/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/720b7724d55d047b4c340eb3df33b5c8?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=50&r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-35992-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/robbie/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Robbie</a> (@robbie) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991309"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 17:01</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I am much more intimate with JV’s career than I am with NR’s and DH’s. I know in JV’s case, once he started racing in his teens, while some would criticise him and the likes of famous drivers’ sons for ‘only being there because of their name’ and not their talent, JV was also expected to win. His career was immediately under the microscope much moreso than his peers at the time. So that added a huge amount of pressure that many don’t experience early on, but JV turned it into a positive. It made him able to handle pressure when it is at it’s greatest. There was an element that made him want to prove to himself and the world that he was not just there because he was connected. And after all, it wasn’t his fault that he was connected or that he had the Villeneuve name. That’s just the way it was. I hope NR too has learned to handle pressure when it is at it’s greatest and that he too goes on to be a WDC.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991309#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991309", "991309", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="35992" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-enigma odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-991311"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/enigma/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16038/c14af34c41edc540c1cb63df8a83abeb-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16038-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/enigma/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Enigma</a> (@enigma) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991311"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 17:05</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <blockquote><p>As last year, the race had 23 finishers.</p></blockquote> <p>And, same as last year, the only retirement was someone whose tyre wasn’t fitted properly at a pit stop.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991311#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991311", "991311", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16038" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-damonsmedley even depth-2" id="comment-991852"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/damonsmedley/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/2742/e4f5993f30121119ebca34b88de830fd-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-2742-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/damonsmedley/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">damonsmedley</a> (@damonsmedley) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991852"><span class="time-since">17th April 2012, 20:32</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Nice one!</p> <p>Also, is it actually possible to crash in China? :-P I can’t remember anyone hitting a wall in dry conditions since Karthikeyan in the Jordan…</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991852#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991852", "991852", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="2742" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-enigma odd alt depth-3" id="comment-991870"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/enigma/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16038/c14af34c41edc540c1cb63df8a83abeb-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16038-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/enigma/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Enigma</a> (@enigma) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991870"><span class="time-since">17th April 2012, 21:30</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>Hm, that is a bit strange – possibly someone going into the wall in turn 1 at some race between 06 and 08?</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991870#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991870", "991870", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16038" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-davea86 even depth-3" id="comment-992061"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/davea86/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/61126/830d7ce2f4a026ca5abe589eed61384d-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-61126-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/davea86/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Dave</a> (@davea86) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-992061"><span class="time-since">18th April 2012, 4:35</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/damonsmedley/" rel="nofollow">@damonsmedley</a> Buemi managed it in practice for the 2010 race when his Torro Rosso shed it’s front wheels at the end of the back straight.</p> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBVuvIPe0tc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBVuvIPe0tc</a></p> <p>My favourite part of that video has to be the bit where he tries to steer away from the wall. You can almost see the moment where it dawns on him that the car won’t turn without front wheels.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=992061#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-992061", "992061", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="61126" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-damonsmedley odd alt depth-4" id="comment-992064"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/damonsmedley/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/2742/e4f5993f30121119ebca34b88de830fd-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-2742-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/damonsmedley/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">damonsmedley</a> (@damonsmedley) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-992064"><span class="time-since">18th April 2012, 4:41</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/enigma/" rel="nofollow">@enigma</a> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/davea86/" rel="nofollow">@davea86</a> Oops, I just remembered Heidfeld binning it in FP1 and FP2 last year! But both accidents only bent the front wing a little bit.</p> <p>And I think Buemi’s crash was a bit unavoidable!</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=992064#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-992064", "992064", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="2742" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-enigma even depth-4" id="comment-992224"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/enigma/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16038/c14af34c41edc540c1cb63df8a83abeb-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16038-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/enigma/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Enigma</a> (@enigma) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-992224"><span class="time-since">18th April 2012, 11:10</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/davea86/" rel="nofollow">@davea86</a> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/damonsmedley/" rel="nofollow">@damonsmedley</a> Well we had Glock crash this Friday as well – I thought you were referring to crashes actually in the race!</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=992224#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-992224", "992224", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16038" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-dougy_d odd alt thread-even depth-1" id="comment-991325"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/dougy_d/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/9830da97192563b92776fb73bcf276b9?d=http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-core/images/mystery-man.jpg&s=50&r=G" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-15046-avatar" width="50" height="50"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/dougy_d/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">Dougy_D</a> (@dougy_d) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991325"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 17:33</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <blockquote><p>That means Felipe Massa is the only driver outside of the ‘small three’ teams who is yet to score this year.</p></blockquote> <p>Says everything you need to about Felipe this year. I’m sorry Ferrari / Massa fans but Felipe of 2008 is no longer. Time to move aside and let someone else step in.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991325#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991325", "991325", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="15046" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-matt90 even depth-2" id="comment-991383"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/matt90/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16192/ea5c2e610a4a84317458fa6c82169817-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16192-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/matt90/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">matt90</a> (@matt90) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-991383"><span class="time-since">16th April 2012, 19:47</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I am in no way a Massa fan- he’s one of the few drivers I actually dislike- but this weekend I don’t think he did too bad. He wasn’t that far from Alonso, but because the midfield is so tight he actually finished several places back.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=991383#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-991383", "991383", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16192" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-damonsmedley odd alt depth-3" id="comment-992127"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/damonsmedley/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/2742/e4f5993f30121119ebca34b88de830fd-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-2742-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/damonsmedley/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">damonsmedley</a> (@damonsmedley) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-992127"><span class="time-since">18th April 2012, 7:58</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/matt90/" rel="nofollow">@matt90</a> Why do you dislike him? I’ve always found him to be one of the nicest people on the grid.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=992127#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-992127", "992127", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="2742" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> <ul class="children"> <li class="comment byuser comment-author-matt90 even depth-4" id="comment-992184"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/matt90/" rel="nofollow"> <img src="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233im_/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/avatars/16192/ea5c2e610a4a84317458fa6c82169817-bpthumb.jpg" alt="Avatar Image" class="avatar user-16192-avatar" width="25" height="25"/> </a> </div> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <div class="comment-meta"> <p> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/members/matt90/" rel="external nofollow" class="url">matt90</a> (@matt90) said on <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-992184"><span class="time-since">18th April 2012, 10:29</span></a> </p> </div> <div class="comment-entry"> <p>I find him often whiney and unwlling to take responsibility when he’s made a mistake, yet is very critical of other drivers who have been racing fair. Also, his complete lack of pace for the majority of the last 2 years is frustrating as I think he’s taking up a seat which could be put to better use.</p> </div> <div class="comment-options"> <a class="comment-reply-link" href="/web/20120815211233/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/04/16/2012-chinese-grand-prix-stats-facts/?replytocom=992184#respond" onclick="return addComment.moveForm("comment-992184", "992184", "respond", "58434")">Reply</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" style="margin-left:10px" class="comment-reply-link wangguard-user-report" rel="16192" title="Report user">Report user</a> </div> </div> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="comment odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1" id="comment-991336"> <div class="comment-avatar-box"> <div class="avb"> <a href="" rel="nofollow"> <img alt="" 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