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<div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body" aria-labelledby="firstHeading" data-mw-ve-target-container> <div class="vector-body-before-content"> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">Allikas: Vikipeedia</div> </div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="et" dir="ltr"><p>Kas sõna "riigisekretär" tähendab, et ta oli <a href="/wiki/T%C3%A4idesaatev_v%C3%B5im" title="Täidesaatev võim">täidesaatev võimu</a> liige? Minu arvates on "riigisekretär" kõrge, aga mitte-poliitiline amet. Hollandis on "staatssecretaris" poliitiline funktsioon, ta oli siis peaeagu minister. Kas siis aseminister? <a href="/wiki/Kasutaja:Fransvannes" title="Kasutaja:Fransvannes">Fransvannes</a> 17. juuli 2008, kell 14:23 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>Jah, Eestis on sõna "riigisekretär" kasutatud teises tähenduses. Eesti vaste on "aseminister". Arvan, et see asi tuleks siiski korda ajada linkide abil, sest igale asjale ju Eestis vastet pole, ja tõlked peavad ikkagi originaali sarnased olema. 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