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class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>February 1</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">44 comments</span> <button aria-controls="toc-February_1-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle February 1 subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-February_1-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Second_Trump_tariffs" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Second_Trump_tariffs"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9.1</span> <span>Second Trump tariffs</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Second_Trump_tariffs-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Southern_California_Wildfires_contained" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Southern_California_Wildfires_contained"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9.2</span> <span>Southern California Wildfires contained</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Southern_California_Wildfires_contained-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-2025_Omdurman_market_attack" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#2025_Omdurman_market_attack"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9.3</span> <span>2025 Omdurman market attack</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-2025_Omdurman_market_attack-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RD/Blurb:_Horst_Köhler" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD/Blurb:_Horst_Köhler"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9.4</span> <span>RD/Blurb: Horst Köhler</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD/Blurb:_Horst_Köhler-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-January_31" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#January_31"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>January 31</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">40 comments</span> <button aria-controls="toc-January_31-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle January 31 subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-January_31-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10.1</span> <span>2025 Balkan retail boycotts</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RD:_John_Erwin" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD:_John_Erwin"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10.2</span> <span>RD: John Erwin</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD:_John_Erwin-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10.3</span> <span>2025 Philadelphia Learjet crash</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-January_30" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#January_30"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>January 30</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">46 comments</span> <button aria-controls="toc-January_30-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle January 30 subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-January_30-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11.1</span> <span>(Closed) AfD banning debate</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RD:_Sammy_Acaylar" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD:_Sammy_Acaylar"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11.2</span> <span>RD: Sammy Acaylar</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD:_Sammy_Acaylar-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Posted)_RD:_Leif_"Loket"_Olsson" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Posted)_RD:_Leif_"Loket"_Olsson"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11.3</span> <span>(Posted) RD: Leif "Loket" Olsson</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Posted)_RD:_Leif_"Loket"_Olsson-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11.4</span> <span>(Closed) Fiji Truth and Reconciliation Commission</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RD:_Dick_Button" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD:_Dick_Button"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11.5</span> <span>RD: Dick Button</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD:_Dick_Button-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RD:_Marianne_Faithfull" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD:_Marianne_Faithfull"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11.6</span> <span>RD: Marianne Faithfull</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD:_Marianne_Faithfull-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RD:_Julius_Chan" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD:_Julius_Chan"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11.7</span> <span>RD: Julius Chan</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD:_Julius_Chan-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Closed)_2024_YR4" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Closed)_2024_YR4"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11.8</span> <span>(Closed) 2024 YR4</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Closed)_2024_YR4-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-January_29" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#January_29"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>January 29</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">240 comments</span> <button aria-controls="toc-January_29-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle January 29 subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-January_29-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.1</span> <span>RD: Richard Williamson (bishop)</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RD:_Alexandr_Kirsanov" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD:_Alexandr_Kirsanov"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.2</span> <span>RD: Alexandr Kirsanov</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD:_Alexandr_Kirsanov-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RD:_Inna_Volyanskaya" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD:_Inna_Volyanskaya"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.3</span> <span>RD: Inna Volyanskaya</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD:_Inna_Volyanskaya-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RD:_Vadim_Naumov" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD:_Vadim_Naumov"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.4</span> <span>RD: Vadim Naumov</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD:_Vadim_Naumov-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.5</span> <span>RD: Evgenia Shishkova</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Posted)_RD:_Salwan_Momika" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Posted)_RD:_Salwan_Momika"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.6</span> <span>(Posted) RD: Salwan Momika</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Posted)_RD:_Salwan_Momika-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Posted)_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Posted)_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.7</span> <span>(Posted) American Airlines Flight 5342 mid-air collision</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Posted)_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.8</span> <span>RD: Mavai Senathirajah</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-RD:_Marina_Colasanti" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD:_Marina_Colasanti"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.9</span> <span>RD: Marina Colasanti</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD:_Marina_Colasanti-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.10</span> <span>(Closed) IShowSpeed honored as Mayor of Lima</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Ready)_2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Ready)_2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.11</span> <span>(Ready) 2025 Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900 crash</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Ready)_2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Closed)_ECOWAS" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Closed)_ECOWAS"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.12</span> <span>(Closed) ECOWAS</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Closed)_ECOWAS-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Posted)_Hōshōryū_Tomokatsu" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Posted)_Hōshōryū_Tomokatsu"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.13</span> <span>(Posted) Hōshōryū Tomokatsu</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Posted)_Hōshōryū_Tomokatsu-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Ready)_2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Ready)_2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.14</span> <span>(Ready) 2025 Prayag Kumbh Mela crowd crush</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Ready)_2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Posted)_Ahmed_al-Sharaa" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Posted)_Ahmed_al-Sharaa"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12.15</span> <span>(Posted) Ahmed al-Sharaa</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Posted)_Ahmed_al-Sharaa-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-January_28" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#January_28"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>January 28</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">93 comments</span> <button aria-controls="toc-January_28-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle January 28 subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-January_28-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-RD:_Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RD:_Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13.1</span> <span>RD: Muhammad bin Fahd Al Saud</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-RD:_Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13.2</span> <span>(Closed) XB-1 Supersonic</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Miloš_Vučević_resignation" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Miloš_Vučević_resignation"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13.3</span> <span>Miloš Vučević resignation</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Miloš_Vučević_resignation-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Closed)_DeepSeek" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Closed)_DeepSeek"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13.4</span> <span>(Closed) DeepSeek</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Closed)_DeepSeek-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-January_27" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#January_27"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>January 27</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">28 comments</span> <button aria-controls="toc-January_27-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle January 27 subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-January_27-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-(Posted)_M23_offensive_(2022-present)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Posted)_M23_offensive_(2022-present)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14.1</span> <span>(Posted) M23 offensive (2022-present)</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Posted)_M23_offensive_(2022-present)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-January_26" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#January_26"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>January 26</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">73 comments</span> <button aria-controls="toc-January_26-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle January 26 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id="toc-{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Norbert_(dog)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Norbert_(dog)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15.3</span> <span>{REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED) RD: Norbert (dog)</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Norbert_(dog)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Posted)_RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Posted)_RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15.4</span> <span>(Posted) RD: Kazuyoshi Akiyama</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-(Posted)_RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open"> <div 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class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>العربية</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-av mw-list-item"><a href="https://av.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%91%D0%B5%D1%82%D3%80%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1_%D0%B3%D1%8C%D1%83%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B4%D0%B0_%D0%B3%D1%8C%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B6%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB_%D0%BB%D1%8A%D1%83%D0%B3%D1%8C%D0%B0-%D0%B1%D0%B0%D1%85%D1%8A%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB" title="Википедия:БетӀераб гьумералда гьанжесел лъугьа-бахъинал/Кандидатал – Avaric" lang="av" hreflang="av" data-title="Википедия:БетӀераб гьумералда гьанжесел лъугьа-бахъинал/Кандидатал" data-language-autonym="Авар" data-language-local-name="Avaric" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Авар</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-be mw-list-item"><a href="https://be.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%8B%D1%8F:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82:%D0%9D%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%96%D0%BD%D1%8B/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%B4%D1%80%D1%8B%D1%85%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%9E%D0%BA%D0%B0" title="Вікіпедыя:Праект:Навіны/Падрыхтоўка – Belarusian" lang="be" hreflang="be" data-title="Вікіпедыя:Праект:Навіны/Падрыхтоўка" data-language-autonym="Беларуская" data-language-local-name="Belarusian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>Беларуская</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-fa mw-list-item"><a href="https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88:%D8%A7%D8%B2_%D9%85%DB%8C%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%B1%D9%87%D8%A7/%D9%BE%DB%8C%D8%B4%E2%80%8C%D9%86%D9%88%DB%8C%D8%B3" title="الگو:از میان خبرها/پیشنویس – Persian" lang="fa" hreflang="fa" data-title="الگو:از میان خبرها/پیشنویس" data-language-autonym="فارسی" data-language-local-name="Persian" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>فارسی</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-hi mw-list-item"><a href="https://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0/%E0%A4%89%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0" title="विकिपीडिया:समाचार/उम्मीदवार – Hindi" lang="hi" hreflang="hi" data-title="विकिपीडिया:समाचार/उम्मीदवार" data-language-autonym="हिन्दी" data-language-local-name="Hindi" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>हिन्दी</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ka mw-list-item"><a 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href="https://mai.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%96%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF_%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0/%E0%A4%89%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0" title="विकिपिडिया:मुख्य समाचार/उम्मेदवार – Maithili" lang="mai" hreflang="mai" data-title="विकिपिडिया:मुख्य समाचार/उम्मेदवार" data-language-autonym="मैथिली" data-language-local-name="Maithili" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>मैथिली</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ml mw-list-item"><a href="https://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%95%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%A1%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%AF:In_the_news/Candidates" title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:In the news/Candidates – Malayalam" lang="ml" hreflang="ml" data-title="വിക്കിപീഡിയ:In the news/Candidates" data-language-autonym="മലയാളം" data-language-local-name="Malayalam" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>മലയാളം</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ne mw-list-item"><a href="https://ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%96_%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0/%E0%A4%89%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0" title="विकिपिडिया:प्रमुख समाचार/उम्मेदवार – Nepali" lang="ne" hreflang="ne" data-title="विकिपिडिया:प्रमुख समाचार/उम्मेदवार" data-language-autonym="नेपाली" data-language-local-name="Nepali" class="interlanguage-link-target"><span>नेपाली</span></a></li><li class="interlanguage-link interwiki-ja mw-list-item"><a href="https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:%E6%9C%80%E8%BF%91%E3%81%AE%E5%87%BA%E6%9D%A5%E4%BA%8B/%E6%8A%95%E7%A8%BF%E3%81%AE%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%81%A8%E6%8A%95%E7%A5%A8" title="Template:最近の出来事/投稿のルールと投票 – Japanese" lang="ja" 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href="/wiki/Ahmed_al-Sharaa" title="Ahmed al-Sharaa">Ahmed al-Sharaa</a></b> <i>(pictured)</i> is appointed <a href="/wiki/President_of_Syria" title="President of Syria">president</a> of <a href="/wiki/Syrian_transitional_government" title="Syrian transitional government">the Syrian transitional government</a>.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/American_Eagle_(airline_brand)" title="American Eagle (airline brand)">American Eagle</a> Flight 5342 <b><a href="/wiki/2025_Potomac_River_mid-air_collision" title="2025 Potomac River mid-air collision">collides with an army helicopter</a></b> over the <a href="/wiki/Potomac_River" title="Potomac River">Potomac River</a> in <a href="/wiki/Washington,_D.C." title="Washington, D.C.">Washington, D.C.</a>, United States, killing all 67 people on board both aircraft.</li> <li>In <a href="/wiki/Sumo" title="Sumo">sumo</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB_Tomokatsu" title="Hōshōryū Tomokatsu">Hōshōryū Tomokatsu</a></b> becomes the 74th <span 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<td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Posted)_RD:_Leif_"Loket"_Olsson">(Posted) RD: Leif "Loket" Olsson</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F3F3;">1,151</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">1,151 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission">(Closed) Fiji Truth and Reconciliation Commission</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8E1E1;">4,210</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">4,210 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Dick_Button">RD: Dick Button</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F0F0;">1,645</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">1,645 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Marianne_Faithfull">RD: Marianne Faithfull</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F4F4;">1,030</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">1,030 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Julius_Chan">RD: Julius Chan</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8EEEE;">2,025</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">2,025 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Closed)_2024_YR4">(Closed) 2024 YR4</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8E8E8;">2,951</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">2,951 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#January_29">January 29</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8FAFA;">126</td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8FAFA;font-weight:bold;">126 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)">RD: Richard Williamson (bishop)</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F3F3;">1,289</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">1,289 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Alexandr_Kirsanov">RD: Alexandr Kirsanov</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F4F4;">1,022</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">1,022 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Inna_Volyanskaya">RD: Inna Volyanskaya</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F4F4;">1,053</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">1,053 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Vadim_Naumov">RD: Vadim Naumov</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F3F3;">1,192</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">1,192 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova">RD: Evgenia Shishkova</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F3F3;">1,201</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">1,201 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Posted)_RD:_Salwan_Momika">(Posted) RD: Salwan Momika</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8B6B6;">11,100</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">11,100 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Posted)_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision">(Posted) American Airlines Flight 5342 mid-air collision</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:red;">40,808</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">40,808 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah">RD: Mavai Senathirajah</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F0F0;">1,642</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">1,642 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Marina_Colasanti">RD: Marina Colasanti</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F1F1;">1,614</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">1,614 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima">(Closed) IShowSpeed honored as Mayor of Lima</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8EBEB;">2,512</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">2,512 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Ready)_2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash">(Ready) 2025 Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900 crash</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8DCDC;">4,913</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">4,913 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Closed)_ECOWAS">(Closed) ECOWAS</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8DCDC;">5,060</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">5,060 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Posted)_Hōshōryū_Tomokatsu">(Posted) Hōshōryū Tomokatsu</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8DCDC;">4,995</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">4,995 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Ready)_2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush">(Ready) 2025 Prayag Kumbh Mela crowd crush</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8CACA;">7,890</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">7,890 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Posted)_Ahmed_al-Sharaa">(Posted) Ahmed al-Sharaa</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8E4E4;">3,680</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">3,680 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#January_28">January 28</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8FAFA;">122</td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8FAFA;font-weight:bold;">122 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud">RD: Muhammad bin Fahd Al Saud</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F1F1;">1,485</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">1,485 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic">(Closed) XB-1 Supersonic</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8D8D8;">5,615</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">5,615 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#Miloš_Vučević_resignation">Miloš Vučević resignation</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8C8C8;">8,236</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">8,236 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Closed)_DeepSeek">(Closed) DeepSeek</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F85454;">27,198</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">27,198 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#January_27">January 27</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8FAFA;">122</td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8FAFA;font-weight:bold;">122 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em"><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Posted)_M23_offensive_(2022-present)">(Posted) M23 offensive (2022-present)</a></span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8BEBE;">9,939</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">9,939 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#January_26">January 26</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8FAFA;">122</td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8FAFA;font-weight:bold;">122 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em">[[Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#{REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED) RD: Arto Salomaa|{REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED) RD: Arto Salomaa]]</span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F6F6;">708</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">708 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em">[[Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#{REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED) RD: Gaositwe Chiepe|{REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED) RD: Gaositwe Chiepe]]</span></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F6F6;">673</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">673 </td></tr> <tr> <td><span style="margin-left:3.2em">[[Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#{REVIEWERS' ATTENTION 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style="text-align:right;background:#F87373;">22,196</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">22,196 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#References">References</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F5F5;">830</td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F5F5;font-weight:bold;">830 </td></tr> <tr> <th>Total</th> <th style="text-align:right">224,746</th> <th style="text-align:right">224,746 </th></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="February_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-February_2"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-February_2"></span>February 2<span data-mw-comment-end="h-February_2"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: February 2"><span>edit</span></a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_February_1&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_February_1&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_February_1&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> <p><b>Armed conflicts and attacks</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Attacks_on_civilians_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Attacks on civilians in the Russian invasion of Ukraine">Attacks on civilians in the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li>A <a href="/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces" title="Russian Armed Forces">Russian</a> missile strike on a residential building in <a href="/wiki/Poltava" title="Poltava">Poltava</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a>, reportedly kills at least eight people and injures at least 17 others. A separate strike kills three police officers in <a href="/wiki/Sumy_Oblast" title="Sumy Oblast">Sumy Oblast</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-air-attack-kills-three-ukraine-kyiv-says-2025-02-01/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Sudanese_civil_war_(2023-present)" class="mw-redirect" title="Sudanese civil war (2023-present)">Sudanese civil war</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Khartoum_(2023-present)" class="mw-redirect" title="Battle of Khartoum (2023-present)">Battle of Khartoum</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Omdurman_market_attack" title="2025 Omdurman market attack">2025 Omdurman market attack</a> <ul><li>At least 56 people are killed and 158 others are injured by <a href="/wiki/Rapid_Support_Forces" title="Rapid Support Forces">Rapid Support Forces</a> (RSF) <a href="/wiki/Shell_(projectile)" title="Shell (projectile)">shelling</a> on the Sabrein Market in <a href="/wiki/Omdurman" title="Omdurman">Omdurman</a>, <a href="/wiki/Khartoum_State" title="Khartoum State">Khartoum State</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sudan" title="Sudan">Sudan</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.arabnews.pk/node/2588644/middle-east">(Arab News Pakistan)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.lbcgroup.tv/news/world-news/835050/paramilitary-shelling-kills-54-at-sudan-market-medical-source/en">(LBC Group)</a></li></ul></li> <li>The RSF are accused of stealing <a href="/wiki/Ambulance" title="Ambulance">ambulances</a>, food supplies, and other civilian equipment in <a href="/wiki/Khartoum" title="Khartoum">Khartoum</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250201-sudan-accusations-against-rsf-for-stealing-ambulances-food-supplies/amp/">(Middle East Monitor)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/War_against_the_Islamic_State" title="War against the Islamic State">War against the Islamic State</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Somali_Civil_War_(2009%E2%80%93present)" title="Somali Civil War (2009–present)">War in Somalia</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/American_military_intervention_in_Somalia_(2007%E2%80%93present)" title="American military intervention in Somalia (2007–present)">American military intervention in Somalia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Islamic_State_insurgency_in_Puntland" title="Islamic State insurgency in Puntland">Islamic State insurgency in Puntland</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/President_of_the_United_States" title="President of the United States">U.S. President</a> <a href="/wiki/Donald_Trump" title="Donald Trump">Donald Trump</a> says he has ordered the <a href="/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces" title="United States Armed Forces">U.S. military</a> to carry out <a href="/wiki/Airstrike" title="Airstrike">airstrikes</a> against <a href="/wiki/Islamic_State_%E2%80%93_Somalia_Province" title="Islamic State – Somalia Province">Islamic State</a> positions in <a href="/wiki/Somalia" title="Somalia">Somalia</a>. The strikes targeted a series of <a href="/wiki/Cave_system" class="mw-redirect" title="Cave system">cave systems</a> used by the terror group. It comes after an earlier military operation by the <a href="/wiki/Puntland_Security_Force" title="Puntland Security Force">Puntland Security Force</a> which began in December 2024. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.idilnews.com/reuters-trump-ordered-airstrikes-against-islamic-state-added-many-militant-casualties-without-civilians-harm-claimed/">(Idil News)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.garoweonline.com/en/news/somalia/trump-confirms-multiple-airstrikes-against-isis-in-somalia">(Garowe Online)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrye506z1go">(BBC)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Al-Shabaab_(militant_group)" title="Al-Shabaab (militant group)">Al-Shabaab insurgency in Somalia</a> <ul><li>At least 50 combats were killed after fighting between <a href="/wiki/Al-Shabaab_(militant_group)" title="Al-Shabaab (militant group)">Al-Shabaab</a> and <a href="/wiki/Somali_National_Army" title="Somali National Army">Somali National Army</a> along with Macawiisley militias. The clashes happened in the <a href="/wiki/Hiiraan" class="mw-redirect" title="Hiiraan">Hiiraan</a> and <a href="/wiki/Middle_Shabelle" title="Middle Shabelle">Middle Shabelle</a> regions of <a href="/wiki/Hirshabelle" title="Hirshabelle">Hirshabelle</a> state of <a href="/wiki/Somalia" title="Somalia">Somalia</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.idilnews.com/at-least-50-casualties-after-al-shabaab-attack-against-sna-and-macawiisley-militias-in-south-and-central-somalia/">(Idil News)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.mepanews.com/somalide-mogadisu-yonetimi-guclerine-saldiri-en-az-50-olu-70795h.htm">(Mepa News)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Syrian_civil_war" title="Syrian civil war">Syrian civil war</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Western_Syria_clashes_(December_2024%E2%80%93present)" title="Western Syria clashes (December 2024–present)">Western Syria clashes</a> <ul><li>Gunmen kill ten people in the <a href="/wiki/Alawites" title="Alawites">Alawite</a> village of <a href="/wiki/Arzah" title="Arzah">Arzah</a> in <a href="/wiki/Hama_Governorate" title="Hama Governorate">Hama Governorate</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2025/02/01/gunmen-kill-10-in-alawite-village-in-syria-monitor">(Al Arabiya)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Insurgency_in_Balochistan" title="Insurgency in Balochistan">Insurgency in Balochistan</a> <ul><li>Eighteen <a href="/wiki/Civil_Armed_Forces" title="Civil Armed Forces">paramilitary troops</a> are killed in clashes with <a href="/wiki/Baloch_people" title="Baloch people">Baloch</a> separatists in <a href="/wiki/Balochistan,_Pakistan" title="Balochistan, Pakistan">Balochistan, Pakistan</a>. At least 24 militants are also killed during the clashes. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/18-paramilitary-soldiers-killed-by-militants-south-west-pakistan-2025-02-01/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Gaza_war" title="Gaza war">Gaza war</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Gaza_war_ceasefire" title="2025 Gaza war ceasefire">2025 Gaza war ceasefire</a>, <a href="/wiki/Gaza_war_hostage_crisis" title="Gaza war hostage crisis">Gaza war hostage crisis</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Hamas" title="Hamas">Hamas</a> frees three <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israeli</a> hostages, Keith Siegel, Ofer Kalderon and <a href="/wiki/Kidnapping_of_the_Bibas_family" title="Kidnapping of the Bibas family">Yarden Bibas</a>. At the same time, Israel releases 183 Palestinian prisoners, of which seven were transferred to <a href="/wiki/Egypt" title="Egypt">Egypt</a> prior to their deportation. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-ceasefire-news-02-01-2025-48ec1e3ab950d73bc335a097fe1dc0ed">(AP)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Rafah_Border_Crossing" title="Rafah Border Crossing">Rafah Border Crossing</a> is reopened for the first time since Israel captured it nearly nine months ago during the <a href="/wiki/Rafah_offensive" title="Rafah offensive">Rafah offensive</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/mideast-wars-gaza-rafah-ceasefire-egypt-children-7330b0f2a30855cd5ae69b5a32b218df">(AP)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Disasters and accidents</b> </p> <ul><li>A fire at a <a href="/wiki/Retirement_home" title="Retirement home">retirement home</a> in <a href="/wiki/Bouff%C3%A9mont" title="Bouffémont">Bouffémont</a>, <a href="/wiki/Val-d%27Oise" title="Val-d'Oise">Val-d'Oise</a>, <a href="/wiki/France" title="France">France</a>, kills three people and leaves nine others injured. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/france-retirement-home-fire-6bc21440ee9b7be5feff24ff9bb4b45e">(AP)</a></li></ul> <p><b>Law and crime</b> </p> <ul><li>In <a href="/wiki/Kyrgyzstan" title="Kyrgyzstan">Kyrgyzstan</a>, the ban on the <a href="/wiki/Niq%C4%81b" title="Niqāb">Islamic niqab</a> take effect, with women facing a fine of 20,000 <a href="/wiki/Kyrgyz_som" title="Kyrgyz som">som</a> ($230) if they wear it in public places. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rferl.org/a/niqab-ban-kyrgyzstan-islam-hijab-central-asia/33297197.html">(RFE/RL)</a></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Second_Trump_tariffs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Second_Trump_tariffs-February_1-20250201230800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Second_Trump_tariffs-February_1-20250201230800"></span>Second Trump tariffs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Second_Trump_tariffs-February_1-20250201230800"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Second Trump tariffs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ElijahPepe-20250201230800-Second_Trump_tariffs"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248495340">.mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate{border:1px solid #a3b1bf;color:inherit;padding:6px;height:auto;overflow:auto}.mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-default{background-color:#e6f2ff}.mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-ITNR{background-color:#e6ffe6}.mw-parser-output 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Second_Trump_tariffs&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Second+Trump+tariffs">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> The <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> imposes <b><a href="/wiki/Second_Trump_tariffs" title="Second Trump tariffs">tariffs</a></b> of 25 percent on most goods from <a href="/wiki/Canada" title="Canada">Canada</a> and <a href="/wiki/Mexico" title="Mexico">Mexico</a>, and 10 percent on goods from <a href="/wiki/China" title="China">China</a> </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>Alternative blurb:</b> <i> U.S. president <a href="/wiki/Donald_Trump" title="Donald Trump">Donald Trump</a> <b><a href="/wiki/Second_Trump_tariffs" title="Second Trump tariffs">imposes tariffs</a></b> of 25 percent on most goods from Canada and Mexico, and of 10 percent on goods from China. </i><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2025-02-01/trump-imposes-tariffs">Bloomberg News</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:ElijahPepe" title="User:ElijahPepe">ElijahPepe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ElijahPepe" title="User talk:ElijahPepe">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ElijahPepe&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BSecond+Trump+tariffs%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Second+Trump+tariffs&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div></div><p>Nominator's comments: Nominating because the tariffs against China in 2018 <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Main_Page_history/2018_July_8" title="Wikipedia:Main Page history/2018 July 8">were posted</a>. The tariffs are not in effect yet. <span style="font-family: monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:ElijahPepe" title="User talk:ElijahPepe">elijahpepe@wikipedia</a> (he/him)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ElijahPepe-20250201230800-Second_Trump_tariffs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ElijahPepe-20250201230800-Second_Trump_tariffs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201230800","author":"ElijahPepe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ElijahPepe-20250201230800-Second_Trump_tariffs","replies":["c-DecafPotato-20250201235600-ElijahPepe-20250201230800","c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250202000400-ElijahPepe-20250201230800","c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250202001400-ElijahPepe-20250201230800","c-Fakescientist8000-20250202001700-ElijahPepe-20250201230800","c-Patar_knight-20250202002100-ElijahPepe-20250201230800","c-Black_Kite-20250202002800-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ElijahPepe-20250201230800-Second_Trump_tariffs"></span> </p><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DecafPotato-20250201235600-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"></span>Support on Tuesday</b> (when they are set to take effect) — I'd usually oppose ITN posting Trump's numerous actions but this is a major move from the world's largest economy on its three largest trading partners that could completely reshape global supply routes and production. <a href="/wiki/User:DecafPotato" title="User:DecafPotato">DecafPotato</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DecafPotato" title="User talk:DecafPotato">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-DecafPotato-20250201235600-ElijahPepe-20250201230800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:56, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DecafPotato-20250201235600-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201235600","author":"DecafPotato","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DecafPotato-20250201235600-ElijahPepe-20250201230800","replies":["c-DecafPotato-20250201235900-DecafPotato-20250201235600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DecafPotato-20250201235600-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DecafPotato-20250201235900-DecafPotato-20250201235600"></span>Comment</b> — I've added an altblurb that I'd prefer. <a href="/wiki/User:DecafPotato" title="User:DecafPotato">DecafPotato</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DecafPotato" title="User talk:DecafPotato">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-DecafPotato-20250201235900-DecafPotato-20250201235600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:59, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DecafPotato-20250201235900-DecafPotato-20250201235600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201235900","author":"DecafPotato","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DecafPotato-20250201235900-DecafPotato-20250201235600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DecafPotato-20250201235900-DecafPotato-20250201235600"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250202000400-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"></span>Support</b> on Tuesday per DecafPotato. Major action of the many done by Trump. This may affect and reshape the economy of many countries. 00:04, 2 February 2025 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Vamos_Palmeiras" title="User:Vamos Palmeiras">Vamos Palmeiras</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vamos_Palmeiras" title="User talk:Vamos Palmeiras">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250202000400-ElijahPepe-20250201230800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:04, 2 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250202000400-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250202000400","author":"Vamos Palmeiras","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250202000400-ElijahPepe-20250201230800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250202000400-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250202001400-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"></span>Support -</b> I love the tariffs. Also significant since the US is alienating all of its allies. <a href="/wiki/User:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User:SimpleSubCubicGraph">SimpleSubCubicGraph</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250202001400-ElijahPepe-20250201230800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250202001400-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250202001400","author":"SimpleSubCubicGraph","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250202001400-ElijahPepe-20250201230800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250202001400-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250202001700-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"></span>Wait</b> until Tuesday to post, then <b>support</b> posting. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250202001700-ElijahPepe-20250201230800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 2 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250202001700-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250202001700","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250202001700-ElijahPepe-20250201230800","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250202001700-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Patar_knight-20250202002100-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"></span>Wait</b> until the precise details tariffs and expected retaliatory tariffs are known, then <b>support an altblurb</b> incorporating details of the retaliation as well. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a></sup>/<sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20250202002100-ElijahPepe-20250201230800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:21, 2 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Patar_knight-20250202002100-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250202002100","author":"Patar knight","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Patar_knight-20250202002100-ElijahPepe-20250201230800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Patar_knight-20250202002100-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Black_Kite-20250202002800-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"></span>Wait</b> until the tariffs actually take effect (because we don't have precise details yet), and altblurb per Patar Knight above. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Black_Kite" title="User talk:Black Kite">Black Kite (talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Black_Kite-20250202002800-ElijahPepe-20250201230800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:28, 2 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Black_Kite-20250202002800-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250202002800","author":"Black Kite","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Black_Kite-20250202002800-ElijahPepe-20250201230800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Black_Kite-20250202002800-ElijahPepe-20250201230800"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Southern_California_Wildfires_contained" data-mw-thread-id="h-Southern_California_Wildfires_contained-February_1-20250201204800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Southern_California_Wildfires_contained-February_1-20250201204800"></span>Southern California Wildfires contained<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Southern_California_Wildfires_contained-February_1-20250201204800"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Southern California Wildfires contained"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250201204800-Southern_California_Wildfires_contained"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="January_2025_Southern_California_wildfires"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_January_2025_Southern_California_wildfires"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/January_2025_Southern_California_wildfires" title="January 2025 Southern California wildfires">January 2025 Southern California wildfires</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:January_2025_Southern_California_wildfires" title="Talk:January 2025 Southern California wildfires">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=January_2025_Southern_California_wildfires&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:January_2025_Southern_California_wildfires&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=January+2025+Southern+California+wildfires">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> The unusually destructive and deadly fires that burned the Greater Los Angeles area has now been fully contained. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.nbcnews.com/weather/wildfires/palisades-eaton-fire-la-contained-rcna188338">https://www.nbcnews.com/weather/wildfires/palisades-eaton-fire-la-contained-rcna188338</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User:SimpleSubCubicGraph">SimpleSubCubicGraph</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJanuary+2025+Southern+California+wildfires%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=January+2025+Southern+California+wildfires&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div></div><p>Nominator's comments: Wildfires getting contained aren't usually ITN worthy. However given most major news sources are reporting on it, and that the wildfires were unusually deadly (28 dead) and costly (billions in damages) I think it is ITN worthy. </p><ul><li><b>Oppose</b> We're not a news ticker, just because an event is being widely reported doesn't make it ITN appropriate. We've covered the wildfires already and we've never posted the "end" of previous wildfires. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250201204800-Southern_California_Wildfires_contained" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:48, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250201204800-Southern_California_Wildfires_contained"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20250201213400-Masem-20250201204800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_gigs-20250201213400-Masem-20250201204800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201213400","author":"Mike gigs","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_gigs-20250201213400-Masem-20250201204800","replies":[],"displayName":"mike_gigs"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_gigs-20250201213400-Masem-20250201204800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250201214800-Masem-20250201204800"></span>Oppose</b> per above. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250201214800-Masem-20250201204800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250201214800-Masem-20250201204800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201214800","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250201214800-Masem-20250201204800","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250201214800-Masem-20250201204800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpectralIon-20250201230700-Masem-20250201204800"></span>Oppose</b> per Masem. <a href="/wiki/User:SpectralIon" title="User:SpectralIon">Spectral</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpectralIon" title="User talk:SpectralIon">Ion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SpectralIon-20250201230700-Masem-20250201204800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:07, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpectralIon-20250201230700-Masem-20250201204800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2025_Omdurman_market_attack&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Omdurman+market+attack">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> <b><a href="/wiki/2025_Omdurman_market_attack" title="2025 Omdurman market attack">An attack</a></b> at a market in <a href="/wiki/Omdurman" title="Omdurman">Omdurman</a>, Sudan, kills 56 people and wounds 158 others. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20250201-sudanese-paramilitary-kill-scores-civilians-attack-khartoum-market-rsf">France24</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.iraqinews.com/world/at-least-56-killed-as-fighting-grips-greater-khartoum/">Iraqi News</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/02/01/sudan-rsf-omdurman-sabrein-market/a84b00a0-e0a8-11ef-8889-d5c3924edafd_story.html">Washington Post</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/01/dozens-killed-as-opposition-rsf-forces-attack-open-market-in-sudan">The Guardian</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArionStar&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2025+Omdurman+market+attack%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Omdurman+market+attack&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div></div><p> <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250201153700-2025_Omdurman_market_attack" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250201153700-2025_Omdurman_market_attack"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" 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id="c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250201155000-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span>Support</b>: The event has articles about it from several news stations worldwide. While I think there could be more larger sources in the <i>news sources</i> it is still a WAR CRIME and is a part of the greater escalation of the Battle of Khartoum and the overall war itself. <a href="/wiki/User:Vamos_Palmeiras" title="User:Vamos Palmeiras">Vamos Palmeiras</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vamos_Palmeiras" title="User talk:Vamos Palmeiras">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250201155000-ArionStar-20250201153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250201155000-ArionStar-20250201153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201155000","author":"Vamos Palmeiras","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250201155000-ArionStar-20250201153700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250201155000-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250201160600-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span>Oppose</b> Horrific, but it’s covered by the ongoing item. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250201160600-ArionStar-20250201153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250201160600-ArionStar-20250201153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201160600","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250201160600-ArionStar-20250201153700","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250201160600-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250201162900-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span>Oppose</b> Such shelling seems to be a regular feature of the fighting for this city. See <a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Khartoum_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Battle of Khartoum (2023–present)">Battle of Khartoum (2023–present)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20250201162900-ArionStar-20250201153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250201162900-ArionStar-20250201153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201162900","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-20250201162900-ArionStar-20250201153700","replies":[],"displayName":"Andrew"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250201162900-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250201172800-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span>Correcting/adding nomination header. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250201172800-ArionStar-20250201153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250201172800-ArionStar-20250201153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201172800","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250201172800-ArionStar-20250201153700","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250201172800-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NuestroBrasil-20250201174600-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span>Support</b>: Horrible/horrific event, now becoming internationally known and being transmitted by some of the most reliable sources worldwide. Big escalation as stated before, and shelling is becoming progressively worse now with hundreds affected. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:NuestroBrasil&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:NuestroBrasil (page does not exist)">NuestroBrasil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NuestroBrasil" title="User talk:NuestroBrasil">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-NuestroBrasil-20250201174600-ArionStar-20250201153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NuestroBrasil-20250201174600-ArionStar-20250201153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201174600","author":"NuestroBrasil","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-NuestroBrasil-20250201174600-ArionStar-20250201153700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NuestroBrasil-20250201174600-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201185800-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span>Support -</b> @<a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The Kip</a> just because its covered by ongoing does not mean significant events cant be covered in ITN, biggest example is Israel-Palestine. Support because 56 people dying is very signifcant. <a href="/wiki/User:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User:SimpleSubCubicGraph">SimpleSubCubicGraph</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201185800-ArionStar-20250201153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:58, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201185800-ArionStar-20250201153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201185800","author":"SimpleSubCubicGraph","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201185800-ArionStar-20250201153700","replies":["c-The_Kip-20250201201600-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201185800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201185800-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250201201600-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201185800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User:SimpleSubCubicGraph">SimpleSubCubicGraph</a> we haven’t posted any Gaza war blurbs outside of the initial attacks and the ceasefire, which de facto ended the war for now. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250201201600-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201185800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250201201600-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201185800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201201600","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250201201600-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201185800","replies":["c-Blaylockjam10-20250201204800-The_Kip-20250201201600"],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250201201600-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201185800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blaylockjam10-20250201204800-The_Kip-20250201201600"></span>For the Sudanese Civil War, a massacre that occurred after the Battle of Geneina <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&oldid=1171078272">was blurbed.</a> However, that massacre was much deadlier than this attack. <a href="/wiki/User:Blaylockjam10" title="User:Blaylockjam10">Blaylockjam10</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blaylockjam10" title="User talk:Blaylockjam10">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Blaylockjam10-20250201204800-The_Kip-20250201201600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:48, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blaylockjam10-20250201204800-The_Kip-20250201201600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201204800","author":"Blaylockjam10","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Blaylockjam10-20250201204800-The_Kip-20250201201600","replies":["c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250201205800-Blaylockjam10-20250201204800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blaylockjam10-20250201204800-The_Kip-20250201201600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250201205800-Blaylockjam10-20250201204800"></span>I remember nominating that specific occurance. That massacre if I'm sure killed over 10,000-20,000+ but there is to note that was the last time any article connected with the Sudanese civil war was blurbed at all. Also like this happening it was transmitted and made known by several reliable sources. At the end of the day these are two horrible occurances.<a href="/wiki/User:Vamos_Palmeiras" title="User:Vamos Palmeiras">Vamos Palmeiras</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vamos_Palmeiras" title="User talk:Vamos Palmeiras">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250201205800-Blaylockjam10-20250201204800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250201205800-Blaylockjam10-20250201204800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201205800","author":"Vamos Palmeiras","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250201205800-Blaylockjam10-20250201204800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vamos_Palmeiras-20250201205800-Blaylockjam10-20250201204800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_gigs-20250201191300-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span>Oppose</b> per The Kip and Andrew Davidson. Covered by ongoing and in a battle that has claimed the lives of 60,000+ so far, this unfortunately doesn’t seem too out of the ordinary… though I wish I could say otherwise. <small> ✈</small> <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20250201191300-ArionStar-20250201153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_gigs-20250201191300-ArionStar-20250201153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201191300","author":"Mike gigs","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_gigs-20250201191300-ArionStar-20250201153700","replies":[],"displayName":"mike_gigs"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_gigs-20250201191300-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpectralIon-20250201192400-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span>Oppose</b> per The Kip, Andrew, and mike_gigs, both sides of the Sudanese Civil War are sadly committing atrocities all of the time and this is simply one of them, most likely not even the most major. --<a href="/wiki/User:SpectralIon" title="User:SpectralIon">Spectral</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpectralIon" title="User talk:SpectralIon">Ion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SpectralIon-20250201192400-ArionStar-20250201153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpectralIon-20250201192400-ArionStar-20250201153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201192400","author":"SpectralIon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SpectralIon-20250201192400-ArionStar-20250201153700","replies":["c-Subaru2000-20250201200700-SpectralIon-20250201192400"],"displayName":"Spectral"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpectralIon-20250201192400-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Subaru2000-20250201200700-SpectralIon-20250201192400"></span>Support</b> While I've been away from Wikipedia for quite some time I've looked into wars recently and this war crime as stated by @<a href="/wiki/User:Vamos_Palmeiras" title="User:Vamos Palmeiras">Vamos Palmeiras</a> is quite grave and while it might not be rare in the conflict as a whole, it is rare in Khartoum which is having as also said before a ESCALATION in the battle. In the article it is also stated that the Rapid Support Forces are aiming to retake territory and most likely this was perpetrated by them to start this campaign. This is what I may call the start of a <a href="/wiki/Butterfly_effect" title="Butterfly effect">Butterfly effect</a>! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Subaru2000&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Subaru2000 (page does not exist)">Subaru2000</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Subaru2000" title="User talk:Subaru2000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Subaru2000-20250201200700-SpectralIon-20250201192400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:07, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Subaru2000-20250201200700-SpectralIon-20250201192400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201200700","author":"Subaru2000","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Subaru2000-20250201200700-SpectralIon-20250201192400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Subaru2000-20250201200700-SpectralIon-20250201192400"></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250201222800-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span>Lean support</b> given the media coverage over and above the rest of the war <a href="/wiki/User:Orbitalbuzzsaw" title="User:Orbitalbuzzsaw">This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Orbitalbuzzsaw" title="User talk:Orbitalbuzzsaw">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250201222800-ArionStar-20250201153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:28, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250201222800-ArionStar-20250201153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201222800","author":"Orbitalbuzzsaw","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250201222800-ArionStar-20250201153700","replies":[],"displayName":"This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250201222800-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20250201232600-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span>Support</b> and any number of Russia Ukraine war events were posted while it remained in ongoing. Significant event and merits a blurb. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20250201232600-ArionStar-20250201153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:26, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20250201232600-ArionStar-20250201153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201232600","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nableezy-20250201232600-ArionStar-20250201153700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20250201232600-ArionStar-20250201153700"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD/Blurb:_Horst_Köhler" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD/Blurb:_Horst_Köhler-February_1-20250201110800"><span id="RD.2FBlurb:_Horst_K.C3.B6hler"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RD/Blurb:_Horst_Köhler-February_1-20250201110800"></span>RD/Blurb: Horst Köhler<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RD/Blurb:_Horst_Köhler-February_1-20250201110800"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: RD/Blurb: Horst Köhler"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CDE34RFV-20250201110800-RD/Blurb:_Horst_Köhler"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 124px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Horst_K%C3%B6hler.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Horst_K%C3%B6hler.jpg/124px-Horst_K%C3%B6hler.jpg" decoding="async" width="124" height="157" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Horst_K%C3%B6hler.jpg/186px-Horst_K%C3%B6hler.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Horst_K%C3%B6hler.jpg/248px-Horst_K%C3%B6hler.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1184" data-file-height="1500"/></a></span></div> </div><b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Horst_Köhler"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Horst_Köhler"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Horst_K%C3%B6hler" title="Horst Köhler">Horst Köhler</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Horst_K%C3%B6hler" title="Talk:Horst Köhler">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Horst_K%C3%B6hler&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Horst_K%C3%B6hler&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Horst+K%C3%B6hler">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> <b><a href="/wiki/Horst_K%C3%B6hler" title="Horst Köhler">Horst Köhler</a></b>, former <a href="/wiki/President_of_Germany" title="President of Germany">President of Germany</a> and director of the <a href="/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund" title="International Monetary Fund">International Monetary Fund</a>, dies at 81. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/horst-koehler-tot-100.html">Tagesschau</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:CDE34RFV" title="User:CDE34RFV">CDE34RFV</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CDE34RFV" title="User talk:CDE34RFV">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CDE34RFV&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BHorst+K%C3%B6hler%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Horst+K%C3%B6hler&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Federal President of Germany from 2004 to 2010. One of the most popular politicians in Germany at the time. Article could be expanded a bit, but otherwise is in a good shape. Based on how coverage and notability evolves, this maybe could warrant a blurb too, but I'm not too sure about that. <a href="/wiki/User:CDE34RFV" title="User:CDE34RFV">CDE34RFV</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CDE34RFV" title="User talk:CDE34RFV">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-CDE34RFV-20250201110800-RD/Blurb:_Horst_Köhler" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:08, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CDE34RFV-20250201110800-RD/Blurb:_Horst_Köhler"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201110800","author":"CDE34RFV","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CDE34RFV-20250201110800-RD\/Blurb:_Horst_K\u00f6hler","replies":["c-BilboBeggins-20250201112400-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","c-Fakescientist8000-20250201123000-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","c-Masem-20250201123700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201125000-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","c-CDE34RFV-20250201130100-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20250201132300-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201132700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","c-Gotitbro-20250201161700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","c-Yo.dazo-20250201165400-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","c-SpectralIon-20250201192300-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","c-The_Kip-20250201214900-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250201235800-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CDE34RFV-20250201110800-RD/Blurb:_Horst_Köhler"></span> </p><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BilboBeggins-20250201112400-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span>Support blurb</b>. Former president of G7 country. Is written to have been popular president. Director of IMF. Very important figure. <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20250201112400-CDE34RFV-20250201110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:24, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BilboBeggins-20250201112400-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201112400","author":"BilboBeggins","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BilboBeggins-20250201112400-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BilboBeggins-20250201112400-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250201123000-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span>Added blurb</b> to nomination. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250201123000-CDE34RFV-20250201110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250201123000-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201123000","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250201123000-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250201123000-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250201123700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span>Oppose blurb</b> President of Germany is a mostly ceremonial position, and just being a director of IMF means nothing. The article gives no explanation to why he was a major figure to support a blurb, and what I'm seeing from English sources covering his death, nothing in his bio stands out as being a major figure. <b>Oppose RD</b> on quality issues. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250201123700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:37, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250201123700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201123700","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Masem-20250201123700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","replies":["c-BilboBeggins-20250201191100-Masem-20250201123700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250201123700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BilboBeggins-20250201191100-Masem-20250201123700"></span>Why, why should former Germany president not blurbed, when Fillipino actress, unknown in the world, was blurbed? <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20250201191100-Masem-20250201123700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BilboBeggins-20250201191100-Masem-20250201123700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201191100","author":"BilboBeggins","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BilboBeggins-20250201191100-Masem-20250201123700","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201191600-BilboBeggins-20250201191100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BilboBeggins-20250201191100-Masem-20250201123700"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201191600-BilboBeggins-20250201191100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a>:</span> Do not drag in repeated comparisons which would prolong discussions unnecessarily. If you have questions, use talk pages of relevant information/help pages or user talk pages, or any of the <a href="/wiki/Help:Contents" title="Help:Contents">multiple ways to get help</a>. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201191600-BilboBeggins-20250201191100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201191600-BilboBeggins-20250201191100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201191600","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201191600-BilboBeggins-20250201191100","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201191600-BilboBeggins-20250201191100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201125000-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span>Oppose blurb</b> The president of Germany isn’t elected through a popular vote, so being merely a former officeholder isn’t significant. As for the other indicators of significance that justify a blurb, I agree with Masem that there’s nothing exceptional in his biography.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User talk:Kiril Simeonovski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201125000-CDE34RFV-20250201110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:50, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201125000-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201125000","author":"Kiril Simeonovski","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201125000-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","replies":["c-Grimes2-20250201125700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201125000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201125000-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grimes2-20250201125700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201125000"></span>His commitment for Africa was exceptional. <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Grimes2-20250201125700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201125000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:57, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grimes2-20250201125700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201125000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201125700","author":"Grimes2","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Grimes2-20250201125700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201125000","replies":["c-Masem-20250201130600-Grimes2-20250201125700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grimes2-20250201125700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201125000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250201130600-Grimes2-20250201125700"></span>Then there should be sources that explain how all that is part of his legacy and demonstrate how he was a great figure. Again, the sources in English on his death that I see do note his attention on Africa in the later part of his life, but nothing that indicates a major factor, much less that being appropriately summarized in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250201130600-Grimes2-20250201125700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250201130600-Grimes2-20250201125700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201130600","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Masem-20250201130600-Grimes2-20250201125700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250201130600-Grimes2-20250201125700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CDE34RFV-20250201130100-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span>Nominator's comment: Weak oppose blurb</b> per above. I might've left open the possibility, but I myself don't think that this death is blurb-worthy. He's had some notable influence, but wielded no sufficient power to merit a blurb. <b>Support RD</b> once ready. <a href="/wiki/User:CDE34RFV" title="User:CDE34RFV">CDE34RFV</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CDE34RFV" title="User talk:CDE34RFV">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-CDE34RFV-20250201130100-CDE34RFV-20250201110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:01, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CDE34RFV-20250201130100-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201130100","author":"CDE34RFV","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-CDE34RFV-20250201130100-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CDE34RFV-20250201130100-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20250201132300-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span>Support RD, weak oppose blurb</b> Article is in good enough shape for RD. In terms of blurb, while I do support blurbing the death of G20 leaders, I feel that for Germany that would fall under the chancellor and not the president since it's mostly a ceremonial role. However, I could be swayed if the article had a thorough legacy section as to how he possibly became an influential figure in the country and abroad. A little mention of it in the lead could be nice. What got me to think this might be blurbworthy was seeing how at some point he was more popular than his chancellor such as Merkel (which is something IMO). However it'd be nice for his article to reflect his notability in the role or his influence. I could even see an argument being made if he had a massive/influential impact as International Monetary Fund director as well, but that would have to be thoroughly stated in the article. --<a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20250201132300-CDE34RFV-20250201110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20250201132300-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201132300","author":"TDKR Chicago 101","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20250201132300-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20250201132300-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201132700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span>Support RD</b>: Blurb him only if he had his personal legacy and not because he was President of Germany, not all got one. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201132700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201132700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201132700","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201132700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201132700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gotitbro-20250201161700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span>Oppose blurb</b> Kohler isn't getting blurbed when serving alongside Schroder or Merkel (regardless of approval ratings of a ceremonial position). No opinion on RD. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20250201161700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gotitbro-20250201161700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201161700","author":"Gotitbro","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gotitbro-20250201161700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gotitbro-20250201161700-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yo.dazo-20250201165400-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span>Support RD, unsure on blurb</b> It's unfair to oppose merely because he's president and not chancellor, but I'm also unsure if he's important enough to warrant a blurb. <a href="/wiki/User:Yo.dazo" title="User:Yo.dazo">Yo.dazo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yo.dazo" title="User talk:Yo.dazo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Yo.dazo-20250201165400-CDE34RFV-20250201110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yo.dazo-20250201165400-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201165400","author":"Yo.dazo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yo.dazo-20250201165400-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yo.dazo-20250201165400-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpectralIon-20250201192300-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span>Support RD, Oppose Blurb</b> President of Germany is a ceremonial role and I'm not sure if we've posted IMF Directors before. The article seems good for RD. --<a href="/wiki/User:SpectralIon" title="User:SpectralIon">Spectral</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpectralIon" title="User talk:SpectralIon">Ion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SpectralIon-20250201192300-CDE34RFV-20250201110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpectralIon-20250201192300-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201192300","author":"SpectralIon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SpectralIon-20250201192300-CDE34RFV-20250201110800","replies":[],"displayName":"Spectral"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpectralIon-20250201192300-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250201214900-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"></span>Support RD, oppose blurb</b> per SpectralIon. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250201214900-CDE34RFV-20250201110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250201214900-CDE34RFV-20250201110800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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province with the assistance of the <a href="/wiki/National_Defence_Force_(Burundi)" title="National Defence Force (Burundi)">Burundian military</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/congos-army-burundian-allies-slow-122615740.html">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Odesa_strikes_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="Odesa strikes (2022–present)">Odesa strikes</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces" title="Russian Armed Forces">Russian forces</a> launch <a href="/wiki/Ballistic_missile" title="Ballistic missile">ballistic missiles</a> at the centre of <a href="/wiki/Odesa" title="Odesa">Odesa</a> and <a href="/wiki/Port_of_Odesa" title="Port of Odesa">its port</a>, severely damaging numerous civilian buildings, including the historic <a href="/wiki/Bristol_Hotel,_Odesa" title="Bristol Hotel, Odesa">Bristol Hotel</a>. At least two people are reportedly injured. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-forces-launch-missile-attack-historic-centre-ukraines-odesa-2025-01-31/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Somali_Civil_War_(2009%E2%80%93present)" title="Somali Civil War (2009–present)">Somali Civil War</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Somali_President" class="mw-redirect" title="Somali President">Somali President</a> <a href="/wiki/Hassan_Sheikh_Mohamud" title="Hassan Sheikh Mohamud">Hassan Sheikh Mohamud</a> and <a href="/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Somalia" title="List of prime ministers of Somalia">Prime Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Hamza_Abdi_Barre" title="Hamza Abdi Barre">Hamza Abdi Barre</a> escape after security guards shoot down one of two <a href="/wiki/Drone_warfare" title="Drone warfare">drones</a> hovering over <a href="/wiki/Villa_Somalia" title="Villa Somalia">Villa Somalia</a> in <a href="/wiki/Mogadishu" title="Mogadishu">Mogadishu</a>, <a href="/wiki/Somalia" title="Somalia">Somalia</a>. The drones are believed to be used by <a href="/wiki/Islamic_State_%E2%80%93_Somalia_Province" title="Islamic State – Somalia Province">ISIS</a> and <a href="/wiki/Al-Shabaab_(militant_group)" title="Al-Shabaab (militant group)">Al-Shabaab</a>. This comes after previous <a href="/wiki/Somali_Civil_Aviation_Authority" title="Somali Civil Aviation Authority">Somali Civil Aviation Authority</a> warnings. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.idilnews.com/mogadishu-hassan-sheikh-mohamud-and-hamza-abdi-barre-rush-out-immediately-after-downing-a-drone-over-villa-somalia/">(Idil News)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://hornobserver.com/articles/3162/Somalias-Presidential-guards-reportedly-fired-at-several-drones-hovering-over-the-Presidents-office">(Horn Observer)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Business and economy</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts" class="mw-redirect" title="2025 Balkan retail boycotts">2025 Balkan retail boycotts</a> <ul><li>Following <a href="/wiki/Boycott" title="Boycott">boycotts</a> in <a href="/wiki/Croatia" title="Croatia">Croatia</a> on January 24, and in conjunction with a follow-up boycott in the country, residents of <a href="/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina" title="Bosnia and Herzegovina">Bosnia and Herzegovina</a>, <a href="/wiki/Serbia" title="Serbia">Serbia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Montenegro" title="Montenegro">Montenegro</a>, and <a href="/wiki/North_Macedonia" title="North Macedonia">North Macedonia</a> start a boycott of <a href="/wiki/Retail" title="Retail">retail stores</a> in response to rising prices. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.intellinews.com/shopping-boycotts-launched-across-the-balkans-364355/">(Intellinews)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Multinational_corporation" title="Multinational corporation">Multinational</a> <a href="/wiki/Telecommunications_industry" title="Telecommunications industry">telecoms company</a> <a href="/wiki/BT_Group" title="BT Group">BT Group</a> announces that it will <a href="/wiki/Layoff" title="Layoff">layoff</a> 55,000 employees across its global workforce citing a significant drop in revenue in 2024 and "challenges in international markets". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://businessplus.ie/jobs/bt-jobs-worldwide/">(Business Plus)</a></li></ul> <p><b>Disasters and accidents</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Med_Jets_Flight_056" title="Med Jets Flight 056">Med Jets Flight 056</a> <ul><li>A <a href="/wiki/Learjet_55" title="Learjet 55">Learjet 55</a> <a href="/wiki/Air_medical_services" title="Air medical services">air ambulance</a> crashes in <a href="/wiki/Northeast_Philadelphia" title="Northeast Philadelphia">Northeast Philadelphia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pennsylvania" title="Pennsylvania">Pennsylvania</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>, after departing from <a href="/wiki/Northeast_Philadelphia_Airport" title="Northeast Philadelphia Airport">Northeast Philadelphia Airport</a>, killing all six people onboard and damaging multiple homes and businesses. One person on the ground is also killed and 19 more injured. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/philadelphia-plane-crash-medical-transport-8617dab53471190832dd73db149489fa">(AP)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Five people are killed and two more injured in <a href="/wiki/Aghjabadi" title="Aghjabadi">Aghjabadi</a>, <a href="/wiki/Azerbaijan" title="Azerbaijan">Azerbaijan</a>, after a child accidentally detonates discovered <a href="/wiki/Hand_grenade" class="mw-redirect" title="Hand grenade">hand grenade</a> at their house. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://english.news.cn/asiapacific/20250131/403744da959b4af48659f161dfa0b1c9/c.html">(Xinhua)</a></li></ul> <p><b>International relations</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Philippine_espionage_case" title="2025 Philippine espionage case">2025 Philippine espionage case</a>, <a href="/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_South_China_Sea" title="Territorial disputes in the South China Sea">Territorial disputes in the South China Sea</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/President_of_the_Philippines" title="President of the Philippines">Philippine President</a> <a href="/wiki/Bongbong_Marcos" title="Bongbong Marcos">Bongbong Marcos</a> states that he is careful of possible surveillance of <a href="/wiki/Philippines" title="Philippines">the country's</a> <a href="/wiki/Philippine_Air_Force" title="Philippine Air Force">air</a> and <a href="/wiki/Philippine_Navy" title="Philippine Navy">naval</a> bases as well as the movement of vessels supplying <a href="/wiki/Armed_Forces_of_the_Philippines" title="Armed Forces of the Philippines">Philippine garrisons</a> in the <a href="/wiki/South_China_Sea" title="South China Sea">South China Sea</a> following a series of arrests of suspected <a href="/wiki/China" title="China">Chinese</a> <a href="/wiki/Chinese_intelligence_activity_abroad" title="Chinese intelligence activity abroad">spies</a> in the Philippines. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/philippines-president-disturbed-chinese-spy-claims-china-military-4908661">(CNA)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Law and crime</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Venezuela_relations" title="United States–Venezuela relations">United States–Venezuela relations</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Venezuela" title="Venezuela">Venezuela</a> frees six American hostages after U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Special Missions <a href="/wiki/Richard_Grenell" title="Richard Grenell">Richard Grenell</a> meets with <a href="/wiki/President_of_Venezuela" title="President of Venezuela">Venezuelan President</a> <a href="/wiki/Nicol%C3%A1s_Maduro" title="Nicolás Maduro">Nicolás Maduro</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://thehill.com/policy/international/5120173-venezuela-hostages-trump-administration/">(<i>The Hill</i>)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Myanmar" title="Myanmar">Myanmar</a>'s <a href="/wiki/State_Administration_Council" title="State Administration Council">ruling military junta</a> extends the country's <a href="/wiki/State_of_emergency" title="State of emergency">state of emergency</a> for another six months. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/myanmar-extends-state-emergency-six-months-2025-01-31/">(Reuters)</a></li> <li>Philippine <a href="/wiki/National_Bureau_of_Investigation_(Philippines)" title="National Bureau of Investigation (Philippines)">National Bureau of Investigation</a> agents arrest 100 people in <a href="/wiki/Makati" title="Makati">Makati</a>, <a href="/wiki/Metro_Manila" title="Metro Manila">Metro Manila</a>, <a href="/wiki/Philippines" title="Philippines">Philippines</a>, for allegedly running an <a href="/wiki/Internet_fraud" title="Internet fraud">online scam</a> operation as <a href="/wiki/Philippine_offshore_gaming_operator" title="Philippine offshore gaming operator">offshore gaming operators</a> are banned in the country. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.arabnews.com/node/2588572/amp">(<i>Arab News</i>)</a></li></ul> <p><b>Politics and elections</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Greek_presidential_election" title="2025 Greek presidential election">2025 Greek presidential election</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Hellenic_Parliament" title="Hellenic Parliament">Hellenic Parliament</a> fails to elect the new <a href="/wiki/President_of_Greece" title="President of Greece">President of Greece</a> in the second round, calling for a third round of voting on February 6. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://greekcitytimes.com/2025/01/31/president-election-greece/">(<i>Greek City Times</i>)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024%E2%80%932025_Belgian_government_formation" title="2024–2025 Belgian government formation">2024–2025 Belgian government formation</a> <ul><li>An agreement is reached among five political parties to form a new coalition government to be headed by future prime minister <a href="/wiki/Bart_De_Wever" title="Bart De Wever">Bart De Wever</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.belganewsagency.eu/five-party-presidents-agree-on-new-federal-government-de-wever-i">(Belga)</a></li></ul></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts" data-mw-thread-id="h-2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts-January_31-20250201040900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts-January_31-20250201040900"></span>2025 Balkan retail boycotts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts-January_31-20250201040900"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: 2025 Balkan retail boycotts"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250201040900-2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts" class="mw-redirect" title="2025 Balkan retail boycotts">2025 Balkan retail boycotts</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:2025 Balkan retail boycotts">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Balkan+retail+boycotts">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> A series of <a href="/wiki/2025_Balkan_retail_boycotts" class="mw-redirect" title="2025 Balkan retail boycotts"><b>boycotts</b></a> against <a href="/wiki/Retail_stores" class="mw-redirect" title="Retail stores">retail stores</a> in several <a href="/wiki/Southeast_Europe" title="Southeast Europe">Southeast European</a> countries begins. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.intellinews.com/shopping-boycotts-launched-across-the-balkans-364355/">IntelliNews</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArionStar&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2025+Balkan+retail+boycotts%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Balkan+retail+boycotts&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:Knightoftheswords281" title="User:Knightoftheswords281">Knightoftheswords281</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knightoftheswords281" title="User talk:Knightoftheswords281">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" 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id="c-MtPenguinMonster-20250201041600-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span>Support</b> Article is of sufficient notability and quality for ITN. --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20250201041600-ArionStar-20250201040900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MtPenguinMonster-20250201041600-ArionStar-20250201040900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201041600","author":"MtPenguinMonster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MtPenguinMonster-20250201041600-ArionStar-20250201040900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MtPenguinMonster-20250201041600-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-64.114_etc-20250201044200-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span>Support</b> per the above. <a href="/wiki/User:64.114_etc" title="User:64.114 etc">64.114</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:64.114_etc" title="User talk:64.114 etc">etc</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-64.114_etc-20250201044200-ArionStar-20250201040900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:42, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-64.114_etc-20250201044200-ArionStar-20250201040900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201044200","author":"64.114 etc","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-64.114_etc-20250201044200-ArionStar-20250201040900","replies":[],"displayName":"64.114"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-64.114_etc-20250201044200-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201044700-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span>Oppose -</b> No one cares about a bunch of people boycotting some small supermarket retail in the Balkans. Nestle has had an active boycott of over 40 years yet we dont cover it ever. <a href="/wiki/User:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User:SimpleSubCubicGraph">SimpleSubCubicGraph</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201044700-ArionStar-20250201040900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:47, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201044700-ArionStar-20250201040900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201044700","author":"SimpleSubCubicGraph","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201044700-ArionStar-20250201040900","replies":["c-MtPenguinMonster-20250201084100-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201044700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201044700-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MtPenguinMonster-20250201084100-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201044700"></span>Even if the supermarket retail is small, a boycott where 89.5% of a country is participating is still notable. --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20250201084100-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201044700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:41, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MtPenguinMonster-20250201084100-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201044700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201084100","author":"MtPenguinMonster","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MtPenguinMonster-20250201084100-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201044700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MtPenguinMonster-20250201084100-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201044700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250201065300-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span>Wait, leaning oppose</b> - At the moment, we're only seeing the proposed action, not the impact. Calling for a boycott is easy; making change with one is difficult. (Which is why people are <i>still</i> boycotting Nestle after 40 years - it's had minimal effect on policy.) I'm not against this in principle, but we'd need to see it actually achieve something. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GenevieveDEon-20250201065300-ArionStar-20250201040900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:53, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250201065300-ArionStar-20250201040900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201065300","author":"GenevieveDEon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GenevieveDEon-20250201065300-ArionStar-20250201040900","replies":["c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201080200-GenevieveDEon-20250201065300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenevieveDEon-20250201065300-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201080200-GenevieveDEon-20250201065300"></span>Government measures are being introduced all the time. Some of them didn’t pay off, so the boycotts call for different measures. This is well-covered in the article.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User talk:Kiril Simeonovski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201080200-GenevieveDEon-20250201065300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:02, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201080200-GenevieveDEon-20250201065300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201080200","author":"Kiril Simeonovski","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201080200-GenevieveDEon-20250201065300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201080200-GenevieveDEon-20250201065300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201075500-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span>Support</b> These are certainly notable and very unusual boycotts triggered by the elevated consumer prices and the high profit margins.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User talk:Kiril Simeonovski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201075500-ArionStar-20250201040900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:55, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201075500-ArionStar-20250201040900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201075500","author":"Kiril Simeonovski","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201075500-ArionStar-20250201040900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250201075500-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rager7-20250201084900-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span>Support</b> This is affecting the economy of the Balkans in a significant way. <a href="/wiki/User:Rager7" title="User:Rager7"><span style="background-color: red; color: blue">Rager7</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rager7" title="User talk:Rager7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rager7-20250201084900-ArionStar-20250201040900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:49, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rager7-20250201084900-ArionStar-20250201040900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201084900","author":"Rager7","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rager7-20250201084900-ArionStar-20250201040900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rager7-20250201084900-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ironic_sensibilities-20250201113800-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span>Support</b>: The article indicates that the boycotts have had an impact, with price caps being introduced. This is an interesting international popular movement. <a href="/wiki/User:Ironic_sensibilities" title="User:Ironic sensibilities">Ironic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ironic_sensibilities" title="User talk:Ironic sensibilities">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ironic_sensibilities-20250201113800-ArionStar-20250201040900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:38, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ironic_sensibilities-20250201113800-ArionStar-20250201040900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201113800","author":"Ironic sensibilities","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ironic_sensibilities-20250201113800-ArionStar-20250201040900","replies":[],"displayName":"Ironic"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ironic_sensibilities-20250201113800-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Personisinsterest-20250201123800-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span>Weak support</b> This doesn't seem all that notable to me, but it did have an impact on prices, so I guess. <a href="/wiki/User:Personisinsterest" title="User:Personisinsterest">Personisinsterest</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Personisinsterest" title="User talk:Personisinsterest">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Personisinsterest-20250201123800-ArionStar-20250201040900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:38, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Personisinsterest-20250201123800-ArionStar-20250201040900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201123800","author":"Personisinsterest","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Personisinsterest-20250201123800-ArionStar-20250201040900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Personisinsterest-20250201123800-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_gigs-20250201145900-ArionStar-20250201040900"></span>Weak Oppose</b> for now. Currently the article only discusses the direct impact of the boycotts in Croatia, not any other countries. Until we see how it impacts nations on a wider scale I don’t know if this is notable enough to post. I also feel like the article is a big vague in places about what exactly is being boycotted and thwart the impacts have been. <small> ✈</small> <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20250201145900-ArionStar-20250201040900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_gigs-20250201145900-ArionStar-20250201040900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: RD: John Erwin"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250131210100-RD:_John_Erwin"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="John_Erwin"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_John_Erwin"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/John_Erwin" title="John Erwin">John Erwin</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:John_Erwin" title="Talk:John Erwin">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Erwin&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:John_Erwin&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=John+Erwin">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://deadline.com/2025/01/john-erwin-dead-1236274489/">Deadline Hollywood</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJohn+Erwin%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=John+Erwin&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: American voice actor, notable for that of He-Man from the 70s/80s cartoons. While he died back in December, his family did not publically announce this until today. A few unsourced statements. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250131210100-RD:_John_Erwin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250131210100-RD:_John_Erwin"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131210100","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Masem-20250131210100-RD:_John_Erwin","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250131210100-RD:_John_Erwin"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash" data-mw-thread-id="h-2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash-January_31-20250201011600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash-January_31-20250201011600"></span>2025 Philadelphia Learjet crash<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash-January_31-20250201011600"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: 2025 Philadelphia Learjet crash"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Personisinsterest-20250201011600-2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 189px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_55_crash.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_55_crash.png/189px-2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_55_crash.png" decoding="async" width="189" height="104" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_55_crash.png/284px-2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_55_crash.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_55_crash.png/378px-2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_55_crash.png 2x" data-file-width="738" data-file-height="406"/></a></span></div> </div><b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash" class="mw-redirect" title="2025 Philadelphia Learjet crash">2025 Philadelphia Learjet crash</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:2025 Philadelphia Learjet crash">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Philadelphia+Learjet+crash">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> A <a href="/wiki/Learjet_55" title="Learjet 55">Learjet 55</a> <b><a href="/wiki/2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash" class="mw-redirect" title="2025 Philadelphia Learjet crash">crashes</a></b> (explosion pictured) into multiple buildings and houses in <a href="/wiki/Philadelphia" title="Philadelphia">Philadelphia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pennsylvania" title="Pennsylvania">Pennsylvania</a>, United States, killing at least seven people and injuring over nineteen others. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/plane-crash-cottman-roosevelet/">CBS</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/philadelphia-plane-crash-homes-on-fire-and-multiple-injuries-reported-rs3q3tqml">The Times</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Personisinsterest" title="User:Personisinsterest">Personisinsterest</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Personisinsterest" title="User talk:Personisinsterest">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Personisinsterest&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2025+Philadelphia+Learjet+crash%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Philadelphia+Learjet+crash&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div></div><p> <a href="/wiki/User:Personisinsterest" title="User:Personisinsterest">Personisinsterest</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Personisinsterest" title="User talk:Personisinsterest">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Personisinsterest-20250201011600-2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Personisinsterest-20250201011600-2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-end="c-Personisinsterest-20250201011600-2025_Philadelphia_Learjet_crash"></span> </p><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kingsif-20250201013700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Weak support</b> Article looks good. Not wanting to compare (but), this is less serious than the Potomac crash, however, the nature of 'turning into a fireball and dropping into the ground to burn multiple people' is clearly unusual. As it is, that makes it newsworthy for me - it's probably subjective but then I would assume when more details emerge about why that unusualness happened, it may solidify the argument. <a href="/wiki/User:Kingsif" title="User:Kingsif">Kingsif</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kingsif" title="User talk:Kingsif">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kingsif-20250201013700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:37, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kingsif-20250201013700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201013700","author":"Kingsif","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kingsif-20250201013700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kingsif-20250201013700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vlklng-20250201014700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Supported</b> Article looks good, and this was streamed on all of the major news broadcast networks and was also briefed to <a href="/wiki/Donald_Trump" title="Donald Trump">President Donald Trump</a>, so it should belong to be on the main page. <a href="/wiki/User:Vlklng" title="User:Vlklng">Vlklng</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vlklng" title="User talk:Vlklng">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Vlklng-20250201014700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:47, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vlklng-20250201014700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201014700","author":"Vlklng","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vlklng-20250201014700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vlklng-20250201014700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250201020000-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Weak oppose</b> as comparatively minor compared to such events as the Potomac crash. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250201020000-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:00, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250201020000-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201020000","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250201020000-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250201020000-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bloxzge_025-20250201020100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Wait</b> for at least a day after the crash. Not much information is known right now, and usually it will take a few days to get more or at the very least a day. I support the notability as it crashed into restaurants, buildings, houses and next to a mall. <a href="/wiki/User:Bloxzge_025" title="User:Bloxzge 025">Bloxzge 025</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bloxzge_025" title="User talk:Bloxzge 025">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bloxzge_025-20250201020100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:01, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bloxzge_025-20250201020100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201020100","author":"Bloxzge 025","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bloxzge_025-20250201020100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bloxzge_025-20250201020100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shaneapickle-20250201020400-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Strong Support,</b> the Potomac Crash had not that much information, yet added to the in the news ection. <a href="/wiki/User:Shaneapickle" title="User:Shaneapickle">Shaneapickle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shaneapickle" title="User talk:Shaneapickle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Shaneapickle-20250201020400-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shaneapickle-20250201020400-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201020400","author":"Shaneapickle","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Shaneapickle-20250201020400-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shaneapickle-20250201020400-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chorchapu-20250201021300-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Support,</b> a small plane crashing in a dense urban area and starting fires is definitely newsworthy. <a href="/wiki/User:Chorchapu" title="User:Chorchapu">Chorchapu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chorchapu" title="User talk:Chorchapu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Chorchapu-20250201021300-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:13, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chorchapu-20250201021300-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201021300","author":"Chorchapu","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chorchapu-20250201021300-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chorchapu-20250201021300-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Interstellarity-20250201021900-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Support</b> per discussion above. <a href="/wiki/User:Interstellarity" title="User:Interstellarity">Interstellarity</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Interstellarity" title="User talk:Interstellarity">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Interstellarity-20250201021900-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:19, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Interstellarity-20250201021900-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:46, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jumpytoo-20250201024600-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201024600","author":"Jumpytoo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jumpytoo-20250201024600-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jumpytoo-20250201024600-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jay8g-20250201032100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Wait/weak support</b> - likely a large number of ground fatalities, but we don't know that for certain at this point. <b>Jay8g</b> <small>[<a href="/wiki/User:Jay8g" title="User:Jay8g">V</a>•<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jay8g" title="User talk:Jay8g">T</a>•<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jay8g" title="Special:Contributions/Jay8g">E</a>]</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Jay8g-20250201032100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jay8g-20250201032100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201032100","author":"Jay8g","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jay8g-20250201032100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[],"displayName":"V"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jay8g-20250201032100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EF5-20250201032300-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Oppose for now</b> - Fatal aircraft accidents involving small aircraft are relatively common; the main reason this has received as much coverage as it has was because it hit an urban area and happened 2 days after the Potomac crash. <a href="/wiki/User:EF5" title="User:EF5"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>E</b></span></a><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:EF5" title="User talk:EF5"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>F</b></span></a></sub><sup><a href="/wiki/User:EF5/Creations" title="User:EF5/Creations"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>5</b></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-EF5-20250201032300-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:23, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EF5-20250201032300-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201032300","author":"EF5","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EF5-20250201032300-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[],"displayName":"E"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EF5-20250201032300-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-INeedSupport-20250201032800-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Lean Support</b> Sure it’s pretty minor compared to the Potomac mid-air collision, but this kind of plane crash is quite unheard of and it made national headlines. I think it would make national news without the Potomac collision. A similar crash, the <a href="/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash" title="1999 South Dakota Learjet crash">1999 South Dakota Learjet crash</a>, made national headlines. However, it’s probably because it has a famous golfer in it. I will make a more definitive opinion once more information comes out. <b><a href="/wiki/User:INeedSupport" title="User:INeedSupport"><span style="color:#00FF00"><big>I</big></span></a>Need<a href="/wiki/User_talk:INeedSupport" title="User talk:INeedSupport"><span style="color:#044ace">Support</span></a></b> <sup>:3</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-INeedSupport-20250201032800-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:28, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-INeedSupport-20250201032800-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201032800","author":"INeedSupport","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-INeedSupport-20250201032800-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":["c-INeedSupport-20250201210400-INeedSupport-20250201032800"],"displayName":"I"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-INeedSupport-20250201032800-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-INeedSupport-20250201210400-INeedSupport-20250201032800"></span>Now that the number of injuries is known, I support this being in ITN more. A typical small plane crash doesn’t usually injure nineteen people.</dd></dl></dd> <dd><b><a href="/wiki/User:INeedSupport" title="User:INeedSupport"><span style="color:#00FF00"><big>I</big></span></a>Need<a href="/wiki/User_talk:INeedSupport" title="User talk:INeedSupport"><span style="color:#044ace">Support</span></a></b> <sup>:3</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-INeedSupport-20250201210400-INeedSupport-20250201032800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-INeedSupport-20250201210400-INeedSupport-20250201032800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201210400","author":"INeedSupport","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-INeedSupport-20250201210400-INeedSupport-20250201032800","replies":[],"displayName":"I"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-INeedSupport-20250201210400-INeedSupport-20250201032800"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Flipandflopped-20250201055000-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Support</b> due to the rarity of American jets crashing, as well as it crashing into a densely populated urban area. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped"><b style="color:Teal;">Flip</b></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped"><sup style="color:purple">and</sup></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped"><b style="color:lime">Flopped</b></a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"><b style="color:grey"> ツ</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20250201055000-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:50, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Flipandflopped-20250201055000-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201055000","author":"Flipandflopped","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Flipandflopped-20250201055000-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[],"displayName":"Flip"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Flipandflopped-20250201055000-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TonyTheTiger-20250201055800-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Conditional support</b> if the death count goes above 10.-<a href="/wiki/User:TonyTheTiger" title="User:TonyTheTiger">TonyTheTiger</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TonyTheTiger" title="User talk:TonyTheTiger">T</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger" title="Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger">C</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FOUR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FOUR">WP:FOUR</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CHICAGO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CHICAGO">WP:CHICAGO</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WAWARD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WAWARD">WP:WAWARD</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TonyTheTiger-20250201055800-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TonyTheTiger-20250201055800-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201055800","author":"TonyTheTiger","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TonyTheTiger-20250201055800-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TonyTheTiger-20250201055800-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blaylockjam10-20250201064200-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Wait</b> This may become notable enough to post. However, I’d note that there’d need to be a significant death toll on the ground for this plane crash to be deadlier than the S. Sudanese plane crash on January 29, which hasn’t been blurbed yet. <a href="/wiki/User:Blaylockjam10" title="User:Blaylockjam10">Blaylockjam10</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blaylockjam10" title="User talk:Blaylockjam10">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Blaylockjam10-20250201064200-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:42, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blaylockjam10-20250201064200-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201064200","author":"Blaylockjam10","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Blaylockjam10-20250201064200-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":["c-Kingsif-20250201122500-Blaylockjam10-20250201064200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blaylockjam10-20250201064200-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kingsif-20250201122500-Blaylockjam10-20250201064200"></span>That item has been held up for <i>quality</i> reasons, not notability. Given the number of editors interested in improving the article on the South Sudan crash, the US bias seemingly only extends to the attention at ITN, though the number of !votes on that item is not poor, either. Also, notability isn't related to blurb posting schedules and we shouldn't concern ourselves with an administrative level of other stuff. <a href="/wiki/User:Kingsif" title="User:Kingsif">Kingsif</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kingsif" title="User talk:Kingsif">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kingsif-20250201122500-Blaylockjam10-20250201064200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kingsif-20250201122500-Blaylockjam10-20250201064200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201122500","author":"Kingsif","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kingsif-20250201122500-Blaylockjam10-20250201064200","replies":["c-Blaylockjam10-20250201201200-Kingsif-20250201122500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kingsif-20250201122500-Blaylockjam10-20250201064200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blaylockjam10-20250201201200-Kingsif-20250201122500"></span>I think the quality of the S. Sudanese plane crash article is good enough now. I was voicing my concern about US-centric bias & hoping to bring more attention to the discussion about whether or not the S. Sudanese plane crash should be blurbed. <a href="/wiki/User:Blaylockjam10" title="User:Blaylockjam10">Blaylockjam10</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blaylockjam10" title="User talk:Blaylockjam10">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Blaylockjam10-20250201201200-Kingsif-20250201122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:12, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blaylockjam10-20250201201200-Kingsif-20250201122500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201201200","author":"Blaylockjam10","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Blaylockjam10-20250201201200-Kingsif-20250201122500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blaylockjam10-20250201201200-Kingsif-20250201122500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250201065400-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Wait</b> Per Blaylockjam10. This is a significant story, but it's not <i>more</i> significant for happening in the USA. Let's see what develops. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GenevieveDEon-20250201065400-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:54, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250201065400-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201065400","author":"GenevieveDEon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GenevieveDEon-20250201065400-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenevieveDEon-20250201065400-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alsoriano97-20250201112000-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Oppose</b> six fatalities, while unfortunate, does not rise to the ITN-worthiness of the Potomac River accident. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20250201112000-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:20, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alsoriano97-20250201112000-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="c-64.114_etc-20250201142400-Alsoriano97-20250201112000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201142400","author":"64.114 etc","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-64.114_etc-20250201142400-Alsoriano97-20250201112000","replies":[],"displayName":"64.114"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-64.114_etc-20250201142400-Alsoriano97-20250201112000"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-P1-20250201170700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Support</b> Incident is receiving coverage in major non-US news sources and article is in decent shape. <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #87cefa,-4px -4px 15px HotPink"><a href="/wiki/User:P1" title="User:P1"><i><b><span style="color:#e08de0;">P</span><span style="color:#6b92c9;">1</span></b></i></a><sup>(she/her, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:P1" title="User talk:P1">talk</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/P1" title="Special:Contributions/P1">contribs</a>)</sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-P1-20250201170700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-P1-20250201170700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201170700","author":"P1","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-P1-20250201170700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-P1-20250201170700-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bremps-20250201173900-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Oppose</b> It's sad, but six people just doesn't cut it. And yes, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MINIMUMDEATHS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MINIMUMDEATHS">WP:MINIMUMDEATHS</a> is not a thing, but we can also apply our sense. Small aircraft often crash and this accident is only gaining attention due to it being a more urban area. <a href="/wiki/User:Bremps" title="User:Bremps"><b><span style="background:#000000; color:white; padding:2px;">Bremps</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bremps" title="User talk:Bremps"><b><span style="color:grey;">...</span></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bremps-20250201173900-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bremps-20250201173900-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201173900","author":"Bremps","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bremps-20250201173900-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bremps-20250201173900-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpectralIon-20250201192100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span>Weak Support</b> since I'm not sure if 7 deaths is enough to justify a blurb, even if this is a tragedy. --<a href="/wiki/User:SpectralIon" title="User:SpectralIon">Spectral</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpectralIon" title="User talk:SpectralIon">Ion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SpectralIon-20250201192100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpectralIon-20250201192100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201192100","author":"SpectralIon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SpectralIon-20250201192100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250201193400-SpectralIon-20250201192100"],"displayName":"Spectral"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpectralIon-20250201192100-Personisinsterest-20250201011600"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250201193400-SpectralIon-20250201192100"></span>Suport</b> a joint blurb with the Potomac accident. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250201193400-SpectralIon-20250201192100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250201193400-SpectralIon-20250201192100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201193400","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250201193400-SpectralIon-20250201192100","replies":["c-Alsoriano97-20250201203800-ArionStar-20250201193400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250201193400-SpectralIon-20250201192100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alsoriano97-20250201203800-ArionStar-20250201193400"></span>should not be put together because they are not related. The news must be assessed individually. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20250201203800-ArionStar-20250201193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alsoriano97-20250201203800-ArionStar-20250201193400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201203800","author":"Alsoriano97","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Alsoriano97-20250201203800-ArionStar-20250201193400","replies":[],"displayName":"_-_Alsor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alsoriano97-20250201203800-ArionStar-20250201193400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nyanardsan-20250130150500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-January_30-20250130150500","replies":["h-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate-January_30-20250131193400","h-RD:_Sammy_Acaylar-January_30-20250131175300","h-(Posted)_RD:_Leif_\"Loket\"_Olsson-January_30-20250131084600","h-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission-January_30-20250131071300","h-RD:_Dick_Button-January_30-20250131031700","h-RD:_Marianne_Faithfull-January_30-20250130182900","h-RD:_Julius_Chan-January_30-20250130150500","h-(Closed)_2024_YR4-January_30-20250130161200"],"text":"January 30","linkableTitle":"January 30"}--><h2 id="January_30" data-mw-thread-id="h-January_30-20250130150500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-January_30-20250130150500"></span>January 30<span data-mw-comment-end="h-January_30-20250130150500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: January 30"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nyanardsan-20250130150500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-January_30-20250130150500","replies":["h-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate-January_30-20250131193400","h-RD:_Sammy_Acaylar-January_30-20250131175300","h-(Posted)_RD:_Leif_\"Loket\"_Olsson-January_30-20250131084600","h-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission-January_30-20250131071300","h-RD:_Dick_Button-January_30-20250131031700","h-RD:_Marianne_Faithfull-January_30-20250130182900","h-RD:_Julius_Chan-January_30-20250130150500","h-(Closed)_2024_YR4-January_30-20250130161200"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stephen-20250201003300-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission","timestamp":"20250201003300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__46__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__25__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Nyanardsan-20250130150500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-January_30-20250130150500","replies":["h-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate-January_30-20250131193400","h-RD:_Sammy_Acaylar-January_30-20250131175300","h-(Posted)_RD:_Leif_\"Loket\"_Olsson-January_30-20250131084600","h-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission-January_30-20250131071300","h-RD:_Dick_Button-January_30-20250131031700","h-RD:_Marianne_Faithfull-January_30-20250130182900","h-RD:_Julius_Chan-January_30-20250130150500","h-(Closed)_2024_YR4-January_30-20250130161200"],"text":"January 30","linkableTitle":"January 30"}--></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; 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Congolese Defence Minister <a href="/wiki/Guy_Kabombo_Muadiamvita" title="Guy Kabombo Muadiamvita">Guy Kabombo Muadiamvita</a> says there will be no <a href="/wiki/Peace_process" title="Peace process">peace talks</a> with the rebels. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/congo-m23-goma-rwanda-tshisekedi-south-africa-ca81f34f52ea31b85dd845b049a0bb96">(AP)</a></li> <li>After establishing a new administration in <a href="/wiki/Goma" title="Goma">Goma</a>, <a href="/wiki/Congo_River_Alliance" title="Congo River Alliance">Congo River Alliance</a> leader <a href="/wiki/Corneille_Nangaa" title="Corneille Nangaa">Corneille Nangaa</a> confirms his forces now plan on overthrowing president Félix Tshisekedi. He also says services in the city will return to normal soon as the <a href="/wiki/United_Nations" title="United Nations">United Nations</a> warns of a <a href="/wiki/Humanitarian_crisis" title="Humanitarian crisis">humanitarian crisis</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgn1k9nleno">(BBC News)</a></li></ul></li> <li>M23 forces advance into <a href="/wiki/South_Kivu" title="South Kivu">South Kivu</a>, capturing several towns and villages, including <a href="/wiki/Kalungu,_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo" title="Kalungu, Democratic Republic of the Congo">Kalungu</a> in <a href="/wiki/Kalehe_Territory" title="Kalehe Territory">Kalehe Territory</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/armed-rebels-seize-two-more-towns-after-huge-city-falls/ar-AA1y97nF">(MSN)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Somali_Civil_War_(2009%E2%80%93present)" title="Somali Civil War (2009–present)">Somali Civil War</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Puntland%E2%80%93Somaliland_dispute" title="Puntland–Somaliland dispute">Puntland–Somaliland dispute</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Las_Anod_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Las Anod conflict (2023–present)">Spillover of Las Anod conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Khatumo_State" title="Khatumo State">SSC Khaatumo</a> has claimed victory over <a href="/wiki/Somaliland_National_Army" title="Somaliland National Army">Somaliland forces</a> after heavy fighting erupted and undisclosed casualties early Thursday in the Shangeed area, located between <a href="/wiki/Qoorlugud" title="Qoorlugud">Qoorlugud</a> and <a href="/wiki/Buuhoodle" title="Buuhoodle">Buuhoodle</a> of <a href="/wiki/Cayn" title="Cayn">Cayn</a> region. <a href="/wiki/Somalia" title="Somalia">Somalia</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://hiiraan.com/news/2025/Jan/wararka_maanta31-189189.htm?utm_source=hiiraan&utm_medium=WararkaMaantaFront">(Hiiraan Online)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Gaza_war" title="Gaza war">Gaza war</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Gaza_war_ceasefire" title="2025 Gaza war ceasefire">2025 Gaza war ceasefire</a>, <a href="/wiki/Gaza_war_hostage_crisis" title="Gaza war hostage crisis">Gaza war hostage crisis</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Hamas" title="Hamas">Hamas</a> free eight hostages, three <a href="/wiki/Israelis" title="Israelis">Israelis</a> and five <a href="/wiki/Thailand" title="Thailand">Thai</a> nationals. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/hostages-agam-berger-arbel-yehoud-gadi-mozes-5-thai-nationals-freed-from-gaza-after-482-days/">(<i>The Times of Israel</i>)</a></li> <li>Israel releases 110 <a href="/wiki/Palestinian_prisoners_in_Israel" class="mw-redirect" title="Palestinian prisoners in Israel">Palestinian prisoners</a> after initially delaying their release in protest of the chaotic scenes at the handover of several hostages in <a href="/wiki/Khan_Yunis" title="Khan Yunis">Khan Yunis</a>, <a href="/wiki/Gaza_Strip" title="Gaza Strip">Gaza</a>, earlier today, citing concerns for the hostages' safety. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-militants-arrive-gaza-site-before-hostage-handover-militant-sources-2025-01-30/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Hamas" title="Hamas">Hamas</a> confirms that Israel killed <a href="/wiki/Mohammed_Deif" title="Mohammed Deif">Mohammed Deif</a> along with <a href="/wiki/Marwan_Issa" title="Marwan Issa">Marwan Issa</a>, Raed Thabet, <a href="/wiki/Rafa_Salama" title="Rafa Salama">Rafa Salama</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ayman_Nofal" title="Ayman Nofal">Ayman Nofal</a> and Ghazi Abu Tamaa. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.alarabiya.net/arab-and-world/2025/01/30/%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%A7-%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%B3-%D8%AA%D9%86%D8%B9%D9%89-%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B6%D9%8A%D9%81">(Al Arabiya)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2023_Quran_burnings_in_Sweden" title="2023 Quran burnings in Sweden">2023 Quran burnings in Sweden</a>, <a href="/wiki/Islam_and_blasphemy" title="Islam and blasphemy">Islam and blasphemy</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Killing_of_Salwan_Momika" title="Killing of Salwan Momika">Killing of Salwan Momika</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Criticism_of_Islam" title="Criticism of Islam">Islam critic</a> and <a href="/wiki/Quran_desecration" title="Quran desecration">Quran burner</a> <a href="/wiki/Salwan_Momika" title="Salwan Momika">Salwan Momika</a> is <a href="/wiki/Assassination" title="Assassination">assassinated</a> at his apartment in <a href="/wiki/S%C3%B6dert%C3%A4lje" title="Södertälje">Södertälje</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sweden" title="Sweden">Sweden</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpdx2wqpg7zo">(BBC News)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Attacks_on_civilians_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Attacks on civilians in the Russian invasion of Ukraine">Attacks on civilians in the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li>A <a href="/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces" title="Russian Armed Forces">Russian</a> <a href="/wiki/Drone_warfare" title="Drone warfare">drone strikes</a> a multi-storey apartment building in <a href="/wiki/Sumy" title="Sumy">Sumy</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a>, killing nine people and injuring 13 others. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-drone-strikes-apartment-block-ukraine-killing-four-governor-says-2025-01-30/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Insurgency_in_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a> <ul><li>A <a href="/wiki/Shootout" title="Shootout">shootout</a> between the <a href="/wiki/Pakistan_Army" title="Pakistan Army">Pakistan Army</a> and <a href="/wiki/Pakistani_Taliban" title="Pakistani Taliban">Pakistani Taliban</a> in <a href="/wiki/North_Waziristan_District" title="North Waziristan District">North Waziristan District</a>, <a href="/wiki/Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a>, leaves two soldiers and six militants dead. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/pakistan-security-forces-raid-militant-hideout-b0a2eeaaed66ad249bc48ed50a03405b">(AP)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/French_military_withdrawal_from_West_Africa_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="French military withdrawal from West Africa (2022–present)">French military withdrawal from West Africa</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/French_Armed_Forces" title="French Armed Forces">French Armed Forces</a> returns their last <a href="/wiki/Military_base" title="Military base">military base</a> in <a href="/wiki/Chad" title="Chad">Chad</a> to the <a href="/wiki/Chad_National_Army" title="Chad National Army">Chad National Army</a>, bringing an end to <a href="/wiki/France" title="France">French</a> military presence in the country. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/chad-france-military-bases-withdrawal-bd1c1e5a075f3a4b0dba01801c081728">(AP)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Disasters and accidents</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Potomac_River_mid-air_collision" title="2025 Potomac River mid-air collision">2025 Potomac River mid-air collision</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/District_of_Columbia_Fire_and_Emergency_Medical_Services_Department" title="District of Columbia Fire and Emergency Medical Services Department">District of Columbia Fire and Emergency Medical Services Department</a> says no survivors are expected after the midair collision between an <a href="/wiki/American_Airlines" title="American Airlines">American Airlines</a> airliner and a <a href="/wiki/Military_helicopter" title="Military helicopter">military helicopter</a> last night over <a href="/wiki/Washington,_D.C." title="Washington, D.C.">Washington, D.C.</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>, making it the deadliest aviation disaster in the U.S. since <a href="/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587" title="American Airlines Flight 587">American Airlines Flight 587</a> in 2001. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/plane-crash-dca-potomac-washington-dc-01-29-25/index.html">(CNN)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Health and environment</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Uganda" title="Uganda">Uganda</a> confirms an outbreak of <a href="/wiki/Ebola" title="Ebola">Ebola</a>, with the first death, a nurse at <a href="/wiki/Mulago_National_Specialised_Hospital" title="Mulago National Specialised Hospital">Mulago National Specialised Hospital</a> in <a href="/wiki/Kampala" title="Kampala">Kampala</a>, being confirmed yesterday. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/uganda-confirms-outbreak-ebola-capital-kampala-2025-01-30/">(Reuters)</a></li> <li>The United States <a href="/wiki/Federal_Drug_Administration" class="mw-redirect" title="Federal Drug Administration">Federal Drug Administration</a> approves <a href="/wiki/Vertex_Pharmaceuticals" title="Vertex Pharmaceuticals">Vertex Pharmaceuticals</a>' new <a href="/wiki/Suzetrigine" title="Suzetrigine">Journavx</a> drug, a non-<a href="/wiki/Opioid" title="Opioid">opioid</a> <a href="/wiki/Analgesic" title="Analgesic">analgesic</a> used to <a href="/wiki/Pain_management" title="Pain management">treat acute pain</a> and potentially eliminate the risks of <a href="/wiki/Opioid_addiction" class="mw-redirect" title="Opioid addiction">opioid addiction</a> and <a href="/wiki/Drug_overdose" title="Drug overdose">overdose</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/nonopioid-painkiller-fda-vertex-pharmaceuticals-b1dd4276fce3d88ff32e3062e95f408f">(AP)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-novel-non-opioid-treatment-moderate-severe-acute-pain">(FDA)</a></li></ul> <p><b>Politics and elections</b> </p> <ul><li>Following weeks of unsuccessful negotiations, the <a href="/wiki/Centre_Party_(Norway)" title="Centre Party (Norway)">Centre Party</a> withdraws from the <a href="/wiki/St%C3%B8re_Cabinet" title="Støre Cabinet">Norwegian government</a> over disagreements over the implementation of three directives in the <a href="/wiki/Energy_policy_of_the_European_Union" title="Energy policy of the European Union">European Union's fourth energy package</a>, with the <a href="/wiki/Labour_Party_(Norway)" title="Labour Party (Norway)">Labour Party</a> continuing as a <a href="/wiki/Minority_government" title="Minority government">single party minority government</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nrk.no/norge/avviser-at-han-er-svekket-som-statsminister_-_-her-star-jeg_-jeg-er-ikke-vekk_-1.17239250">(NRK)</a></li> <li>Thousands of people gather in <a href="/wiki/Berlin" title="Berlin">Berlin</a>, <a href="/wiki/Germany" title="Germany">Germany</a>, to protest against <a href="/wiki/Chancellor_of_Germany" title="Chancellor of Germany">Chancellor</a>-candidate <a href="/wiki/Friedrich_Merz" title="Friedrich Merz">Friedrich Merz</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Union_of_Germany" title="Christian Democratic Union of Germany">Christian Democratic Union</a> and <a href="/wiki/Christian_Social_Union_in_Bavaria" title="Christian Social Union in Bavaria">Christian Social Union</a> parties after they collaborated with the <a href="/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany" title="Alternative for Germany">Alternative for Germany</a> (AfD) party on a <a href="/wiki/Non-binding_resolution" title="Non-binding resolution">non-binding motion</a> to restrict <a href="/wiki/Immigration_to_Germany" title="Immigration to Germany">immigration</a>. Members of the <a href="/wiki/Bundestag" title="Bundestag">Bundestag</a> debate on <a href="/wiki/Motion_(legal)" title="Motion (legal)">motions</a> to ban the AfD, alleging that its beliefs and legal practices are <a href="/wiki/Constitution_of_Germany" class="mw-redirect" title="Constitution of Germany">unconstitutional</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/germany-mass-protests-after-far-right-afd-helps-cdu-csu/a-71464257">(DW)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/german-parliament-debates-potential-ban-on-far-right-afd/3467314">(Anadolu Ajansi)</a></li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/Nicaragua" title="Nicaragua">Nicaraguan</a> <a href="/wiki/National_Assembly_(Nicaragua)" title="National Assembly (Nicaragua)">National Assembly</a> votes unanimously to pass several <a href="/wiki/Constitution_of_Nicaragua" title="Constitution of Nicaragua">constitutional</a> reforms that grants the <a href="/wiki/Government_of_Nicaragua" title="Government of Nicaragua">government</a> influence over the <a href="/wiki/Mass_media_in_Nicaragua" title="Mass media in Nicaragua">media</a>, extend the presidential <a href="/wiki/Term_limit" title="Term limit">term</a> to 6 years, and makes <a href="/wiki/President_of_Nicaragua" title="President of Nicaragua">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Daniel_Ortega" title="Daniel Ortega">Daniel Ortega</a>'s <a href="/wiki/First_Lady_of_Nicaragua" title="First Lady of Nicaragua">wife</a> <a href="/wiki/Rosario_Murillo" title="Rosario Murillo">Rosario Murillo</a> co-President. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/30/nicaragua-approves-constitutional-reforms-giving-president-expansive-powers">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul> <p><b>Science and technology</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Apollo_asteroid" title="Apollo asteroid">Apollo-type asteroid</a> <a href="/wiki/2024_YR4" title="2024 YR4">2024 YR4</a> triggers <a href="/wiki/Asteroid_impact_avoidance" title="Asteroid impact avoidance">global planetary defence procedures</a> for the first time and rises to the top of the <a href="/wiki/Palermo_Technical_Impact_Hazard_Scale" title="Palermo Technical Impact Hazard Scale">Palermo Technical Impact Hazard Scale</a> after recent observations confirmed it has a 1-in-77 (1.3%) chance of impacting <a href="/wiki/Earth" title="Earth">Earth</a> on 22 December 2032. Follow up observations in 2028 will provide a more refined estimation of the likelihood of impact in 2032. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/jan/30/asteroid-spotted-chance-colliding-with-earth-2032">(<i>The Guardian</i>)</a></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate-January_30-20250131193400"><span id=".28Closed.29_AfD_banning_debate"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate-January_30-20250131193400"></span>(Closed) AfD banning debate<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate-January_30-20250131193400"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: (Closed) AfD banning debate"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250201002400-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1250141580">.mw-parser-output .archive-top{background-color:#EDEAFF;color:inherit;padding:0 0.6em;border:1px solid #8779DD}.mw-parser-output .archive-top-result .side-box-abovebelow{background-color:#c3c3c3;color:inherit;text-align:center;font-size:110%;font-weight:bold}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .archive-top{background-color:#181424;border:1px solid #8072d6;color:#fff}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .archive-top-result .side-box-abovebelow{background-color:#141126;color:#fff}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .archive-top{background-color:#181424;border:1px solid #8072d6;color:#fff}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .archive-top-result .side-box-abovebelow{background-color:#141126;color:#fff}}@media(min-width:640px){.mw-parser-output .archive-top-result{width:30%}}</style><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1235681985">.mw-parser-output .side-box{margin:4px 0;box-sizing:border-box;border:1px solid #aaa;font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em;background-color:var(--background-color-interactive-subtle,#f8f9fa);display:flow-root}.mw-parser-output .side-box-abovebelow,.mw-parser-output .side-box-text{padding:0.25em 0.9em}.mw-parser-output .side-box-image{padding:2px 0 2px 0.9em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .side-box-imageright{padding:2px 0.9em 2px 0;text-align:center}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .side-box-flex{display:flex;align-items:center}.mw-parser-output .side-box-text{flex:1;min-width:0}}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .side-box{width:238px}.mw-parser-output .side-box-right{clear:right;float:right;margin-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .side-box-left{margin-right:1em}}</style><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Consensus to post a debate will not develop. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250201002400-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:24, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250201002400-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201002400","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stephen-20250201002400-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate","replies":[],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20250201002400-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate"></span></div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chetsford-20250131193400-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate"></span>The following discussion is closed. <strong style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</strong> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </p> </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Prohibited_political_parties_in_Germany"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Prohibited_political_parties_in_Germany"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Prohibited_political_parties_in_Germany" title="Prohibited political parties in Germany">Prohibited political parties in Germany</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Prohibited_political_parties_in_Germany" title="Talk:Prohibited political parties in Germany">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prohibited_political_parties_in_Germany&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Prohibited_political_parties_in_Germany&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Prohibited+political+parties+in+Germany">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> Germany's Bundestag <a href="/wiki/Prohibited_political_parties_in_Germany" title="Prohibited political parties in Germany">debates banning</a> Alternative for Germany. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/01/31/germany-s-bundestag-debates-banning-far-right-afd-party_6737637_4.html">[1]</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Chetsford" title="User:Chetsford">Chetsford</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetsford" title="User talk:Chetsford">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chetsford&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BProhibited+political+parties+in+Germany%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Prohibited+political+parties+in+Germany&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Chetsford" title="User:Chetsford">Chetsford</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetsford" title="User talk:Chetsford">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Chetsford-20250131193400-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chetsford-20250131193400-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131193400","author":"Chetsford","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chetsford-20250131193400-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate","replies":["c-Chetsford-20250131193400-Chetsford-20250131193400","c-DecafPotato-20250131194300-Chetsford-20250131193400","c-Fakescientist8000-20250131202200-Chetsford-20250131193400","c-Grimes2-20250131203800-Chetsford-20250131193400","c-Departure\u2013-20250131203700-Chetsford-20250131193400","c-Ion.want.uu-20250131205700-Chetsford-20250131193400","c-SpectralIon-20250131212300-Chetsford-20250131193400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chetsford-20250131193400-(Closed)_AfD_banning_debate"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chetsford-20250131193400-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span>Comment of nominator:</b> I know this is merely a "debate" rather than a "decision", however, the rarity with which <del>actions</del> <ins>debates</ins> like this have been historically taken in Germany and the significant amount of media coverage it's received, makes it <ins>(i.e. the debate, which has happened — not the banning, which has yet to transpire)</ins> crest our significance standard, IMO. <a href="/wiki/User:Chetsford" title="User:Chetsford">Chetsford</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetsford" title="User talk:Chetsford">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Chetsford-20250131193400-Chetsford-20250131193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a>; edited 19:47, 31 January 2025 (UTC)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chetsford-20250131193400-Chetsford-20250131193400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131193400","author":"Chetsford","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chetsford-20250131193400-Chetsford-20250131193400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chetsford-20250131193400-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DecafPotato-20250131194300-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span>Oppose</b> — Germany banning one of its largest political parties would be ITN-worthy, in my opinion. But that has not happened, and ITN is not for things that could possibly happen, it is for things that have happened. <a href="/wiki/User:DecafPotato" title="User:DecafPotato">DecafPotato</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DecafPotato" title="User talk:DecafPotato">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-DecafPotato-20250131194300-Chetsford-20250131193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DecafPotato-20250131194300-Chetsford-20250131193400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131194300","author":"DecafPotato","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DecafPotato-20250131194300-Chetsford-20250131193400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DecafPotato-20250131194300-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250131202200-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span>Oppose</b> per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CRYSTAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CRYSTAL">WP:CRYSTAL</a>. Wait until the decision is actually made, then nominate. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250131202200-Chetsford-20250131193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:22, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250131202200-Chetsford-20250131193400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131202200","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250131202200-Chetsford-20250131193400","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250131202200-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grimes2-20250131203800-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span>Oppose</b> Only the <a href="/wiki/Federal_Constitutional_Court" title="Federal Constitutional Court">Federal Constitutional Court</a> can ban a party in Germany. Bundestag can suggest a party for that procedure. <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Grimes2-20250131203800-Chetsford-20250131193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grimes2-20250131203800-Chetsford-20250131193400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131203800","author":"Grimes2","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grimes2-20250131203800-Chetsford-20250131193400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grimes2-20250131203800-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Departure–-20250131203700-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span>Strong oppose</b> until it is or isn't banned. If it is, this could be a major turning point for far-right politics in Germany - the steady rise of the AFD to now will be brought to perhaps a major downfall or a meteoric rise of right-wing sentiment, depending on how it's handled and how involved parties react. In other words, I do believe it could be blurbworthy depending on what happens. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20250131203700-Chetsford-20250131193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:37, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Departure–-20250131203700-Chetsford-20250131193400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131203700","author":"Departure\u2013","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Departure\u2013-20250131203700-Chetsford-20250131193400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Departure–-20250131203700-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250131205700-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span>Oppose</b> per above, but a ban of the AFD should be blurbed due to the size of the party <a href="/wiki/User:Ion.want.uu" title="User:Ion.want.uu">Ion.want.uu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ion.want.uu" title="User talk:Ion.want.uu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ion.want.uu-20250131205700-Chetsford-20250131193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250131205700-Chetsford-20250131193400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131205700","author":"Ion.want.uu","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ion.want.uu-20250131205700-Chetsford-20250131193400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ion.want.uu-20250131205700-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpectralIon-20250131212300-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span>Oppose</b> per everybody. Wait until they actually make the decision to ban the AfD. Starting the process or deciding that the AfD should not be banned is not blurb-worthy. --<a href="/wiki/User:SpectralIon" title="User:SpectralIon">Spectral</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpectralIon" title="User talk:SpectralIon">Ion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SpectralIon-20250131212300-Chetsford-20250131193400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpectralIon-20250131212300-Chetsford-20250131193400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131212300","author":"SpectralIon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SpectralIon-20250131212300-Chetsford-20250131193400","replies":[],"displayName":"Spectral"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpectralIon-20250131212300-Chetsford-20250131193400"></span></li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Sammy_Acaylar" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Sammy_Acaylar-January_30-20250131175300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RD:_Sammy_Acaylar-January_30-20250131175300"></span>RD: Sammy Acaylar<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RD:_Sammy_Acaylar-January_30-20250131175300"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: RD: Sammy Acaylar"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TNM101-20250131175300-RD:_Sammy_Acaylar"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Sammy_Acaylar"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Sammy_Acaylar"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Sammy_Acaylar" title="Sammy Acaylar">Sammy Acaylar</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Sammy_Acaylar" title="Talk:Sammy Acaylar">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sammy_Acaylar&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sammy_Acaylar&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Sammy+Acaylar">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://philstar.com/sports/2025/01/30/2417971/volleyball-coach-sammy-acaylar-passes-away">Philstar</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://mb.com.ph/2025/1/30/acaylar-66">Manila Bulletin</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101">TNM101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TNM101&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BSammy+Acaylar%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Sammy+Acaylar&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Hariboneagle927" title="User:Hariboneagle927">Hariboneagle927</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hariboneagle927" title="User talk:Hariboneagle927">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hariboneagle927&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BSammy+Acaylar%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Sammy+Acaylar&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Jfect22" title="User:Jfect22">Jfect22</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jfect22" title="User talk:Jfect22">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jfect22&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BSammy+Acaylar%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Sammy+Acaylar&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Filipino volleyball coach <b><a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101"><span style="color:red;">TNM</span><span style="color:black;">101</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101"><span style="color:blue;">chat</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TNM101-20250131175300-RD:_Sammy_Acaylar" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TNM101-20250131175300-RD:_Sammy_Acaylar"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131175300","author":"TNM101","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TNM101-20250131175300-RD:_Sammy_Acaylar","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TNM101-20250131175300-RD:_Sammy_Acaylar"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_RD:_Leif_"Loket"_Olsson" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_RD:_Leif_"Loket"_Olsson-January_30-20250131084600"><span id=".28Posted.29_RD:_Leif_.22Loket.22_Olsson"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Posted)_RD:_Leif_"Loket"_Olsson-January_30-20250131084600"></span>(Posted) RD: Leif "Loket" Olsson<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Posted)_RD:_Leif_"Loket"_Olsson-January_30-20250131084600"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: (Posted) RD: Leif "Loket" Olsson"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BabbaQ-20250131084600-(Posted)_RD:_Leif_"Loket"_Olsson"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Leif"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Leif"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Leif_%22Loket%22_Olsson" title="Leif "Loket" Olsson">Leif "Loket" Olsson</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Leif_%22Loket%22_Olsson" title="Talk:Leif "Loket" Olsson">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leif_%22Loket%22_Olsson&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Leif_%22Loket%22_Olsson&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Leif+%22Loket%22+Olsson">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.dn.se/direkt/2025-01-31/leif-loket-olsson-ar-dod/">[2]</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vast/leif-loket-olsson-ar-dod">[3]</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Updated and nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:BabbaQ" title="User:BabbaQ">BabbaQ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BabbaQ" title="User talk:BabbaQ">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BabbaQ&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BLeif+%22Loket%22+Olsson%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Leif+%22Loket%22+Olsson&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated+and+updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Death of one of Sweden’s most beloved television presenters. --<a href="/wiki/User:BabbaQ" title="User:BabbaQ">BabbaQ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BabbaQ" title="User talk:BabbaQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BabbaQ-20250131084600-(Posted)_RD:_Leif_"Loket"_Olsson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:46, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BabbaQ-20250131084600-(Posted)_RD:_Leif_"Loket"_Olsson"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131084600","author":"BabbaQ","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BabbaQ-20250131084600-(Posted)_RD:_Leif_\"Loket\"_Olsson","replies":["c-Fakescientist8000-20250131112400-BabbaQ-20250131084600","c-Yakikaki-20250131202500-BabbaQ-20250131084600","c-Stephen-20250201002600-BabbaQ-20250131084600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BabbaQ-20250131084600-(Posted)_RD:_Leif_"Loket"_Olsson"></span> </p><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250131112400-BabbaQ-20250131084600"></span>Support</b> Article has good length and sourcing. Looks good to me. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250131112400-BabbaQ-20250131084600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:24, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250131112400-BabbaQ-20250131084600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131112400","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250131112400-BabbaQ-20250131084600","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250131112400-BabbaQ-20250131084600"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yakikaki-20250131202500-BabbaQ-20250131084600"></span>Support</b> Not very exciting for non-Swedish readers, but the article is in decent enough shape. <a href="/wiki/User:Yakikaki" title="User:Yakikaki">Yakikaki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yakikaki" title="User talk:Yakikaki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Yakikaki-20250131202500-BabbaQ-20250131084600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yakikaki-20250131202500-BabbaQ-20250131084600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131202500","author":"Yakikaki","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yakikaki-20250131202500-BabbaQ-20250131084600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yakikaki-20250131202500-BabbaQ-20250131084600"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250201002600-BabbaQ-20250131084600"></span>Posted</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250201002600-BabbaQ-20250131084600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:26, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250201002600-BabbaQ-20250131084600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201002600","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stephen-20250201002600-BabbaQ-20250131084600","replies":[],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20250201002600-BabbaQ-20250131084600"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission-January_30-20250131071300"><span id=".28Closed.29_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission-January_30-20250131071300"></span>(Closed) Fiji Truth and Reconciliation Commission<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission-January_30-20250131071300"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: (Closed) Fiji Truth and Reconciliation Commission"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250201003300-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Consensus to post appointments to a committee will not develop. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250201003300-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250201003300-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201003300","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stephen-20250201003300-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission","replies":[],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20250201003300-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission"></span></div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IdiotSavant-20250131071300-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission"></span>The following discussion is closed. <strong style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</strong> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </p> </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission" title="Fiji Truth and Reconciliation Commission">Fiji Truth and Reconciliation Commission</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission" title="Talk:Fiji Truth and Reconciliation Commission">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Fiji+Truth+and+Reconciliation+Commission">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> Fiji has appointed members to its <a href="/wiki/Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission" title="Fiji Truth and Reconciliation Commission">Truth and Reconciliation Commission</a> </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.fijivillage.com/news/Commissioners-of-Fiji-Truth-and-Reconciliation-Commission-sworn-in-today-fr48x5/">Fiji Village</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/540500/rabuka-to-come-clean-about-1987-coups-to-fiji-s-truth-and-reconciliation-commission">RNZ</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:IdiotSavant" title="User:IdiotSavant">IdiotSavant</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IdiotSavant" title="User talk:IdiotSavant">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IdiotSavant&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BFiji+Truth+and+Reconciliation+Commission%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Fiji+Truth+and+Reconciliation+Commission&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div></div> <a href="/wiki/User:IdiotSavant" title="User:IdiotSavant">IdiotSavant</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IdiotSavant" title="User talk:IdiotSavant">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-IdiotSavant-20250131071300-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:13, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IdiotSavant-20250131071300-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131071300","author":"IdiotSavant","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-IdiotSavant-20250131071300-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075100-IdiotSavant-20250131071300","c-TNM101-20250131081500-IdiotSavant-20250131071300","c-Estreyeria-20250131143000-IdiotSavant-20250131071300","c-Ion.want.uu-20250131162800-IdiotSavant-20250131071300","c-Modest_Genius-20250131163400-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IdiotSavant-20250131071300-(Closed)_Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075100-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"></span>Not 'in the News'</b>!: No news source provided. Nothing relevant appears when searched 'Fiji' on google. When the title of article itself is searched, still no news reports to establish notability. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075100-IdiotSavant-20250131071300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:51, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075100-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131075100","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075100-IdiotSavant-20250131071300","replies":["c-IdiotSavant-20250131090900-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075100"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075100-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IdiotSavant-20250131090900-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075100"></span>Sorry; I'd borked the template. Its been covered in Fiji and NZ, with some coverage in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.postcourier.com.pg/focus-on-root-causes-rights-violations-fiji-truth-and-reconciliation-commission/">PNG</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:IdiotSavant" title="User:IdiotSavant">IdiotSavant</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IdiotSavant" title="User talk:IdiotSavant">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-IdiotSavant-20250131090900-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:09, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IdiotSavant-20250131090900-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131090900","author":"IdiotSavant","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-IdiotSavant-20250131090900-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075100","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131115000-IdiotSavant-20250131090900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IdiotSavant-20250131090900-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131115000-IdiotSavant-20250131090900"></span>Thanks for pointing it out. Earlier writing 'source=' instead of 'sources=' would result in sources not appearing. But now it is fixed, and either could be used. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131115000-IdiotSavant-20250131090900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131115000-IdiotSavant-20250131090900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131115000","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131115000-IdiotSavant-20250131090900","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131115000-IdiotSavant-20250131090900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TNM101-20250131081500-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"></span>Oppose</b> Does not meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNSIGNIF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNSIGNIF">WP:ITNSIGNIF</a>, not covered by news sources outside Fiji <b><a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101"><span style="color:red;">TNM</span><span style="color:black;">101</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101"><span style="color:blue;">chat</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TNM101-20250131081500-IdiotSavant-20250131071300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:15, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TNM101-20250131081500-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131081500","author":"TNM101","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TNM101-20250131081500-IdiotSavant-20250131071300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TNM101-20250131081500-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Estreyeria-20250131143000-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"></span>Oppose</b> Only covered by regional news sources, plus we generally don't post non-head of state government appointments. <a href="/wiki/User:Estreyeria" title="User:Estreyeria">Estreyeria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Estreyeria" title="User talk:Estreyeria">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Estreyeria-20250131143000-IdiotSavant-20250131071300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:30, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Estreyeria-20250131143000-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131143000","author":"Estreyeria","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Estreyeria-20250131143000-IdiotSavant-20250131071300","replies":["c-Masem-20250131143400-Estreyeria-20250131143000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Estreyeria-20250131143000-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250131143400-Estreyeria-20250131143000"></span>A news items not being covered internationally is not a reason to oppose a nomination. It is absolutely fair to point out this is just a local, non-elected sub-government agency and thus definitely not the type of news we'd post, but if, for some reason, Fiji had an election for its Prime Minister and only Fiji news sources covered it, we'd still post that.<span id="Masem:1738334062194:WikipediaFTTCLNIn_the_news/Candidates" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250131143400-Estreyeria-20250131143000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250131143400-Estreyeria-20250131143000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131143400","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Masem-20250131143400-Estreyeria-20250131143000","replies":["c-TheAstorPastor-20250131151100-Masem-20250131143400","c-IdiotSavant-20250131214900-Masem-20250131143400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250131143400-Estreyeria-20250131143000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheAstorPastor-20250131151100-Masem-20250131143400"></span>If Fiji had an election for its Prime Minister - I expect media across the globe to cover it <a href="/wiki/User:TheAstorPastor" title="User:TheAstorPastor"><span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheAstorPastor" title="User talk:TheAstorPastor"><span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A"><i>talk</i></span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheAstorPastor-20250131151100-Masem-20250131143400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheAstorPastor-20250131151100-Masem-20250131143400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131151100","author":"TheAstorPastor","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-TheAstorPastor-20250131151100-Masem-20250131143400","replies":[],"displayName":"The AP"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheAstorPastor-20250131151100-Masem-20250131143400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IdiotSavant-20250131214900-Masem-20250131143400"></span>Would <i>Fijian prime minister <a href="/wiki/Sitiveni_Rabuka" title="Sitiveni Rabuka">Sitiveni Rabuka</a> has promised to reveal those behind the <a href="/wiki/2000_Fijian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat" title="2000 Fijian coup d'état">2000 Fijian coup d'état</a> to the <b><a href="/wiki/Fiji_Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission" title="Fiji Truth and Reconciliation Commission">Fiji Truth and Reconciliation Commission</a></b></i> be a better blurb? <a href="/wiki/User:IdiotSavant" title="User:IdiotSavant">IdiotSavant</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IdiotSavant" title="User talk:IdiotSavant">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-IdiotSavant-20250131214900-Masem-20250131143400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IdiotSavant-20250131214900-Masem-20250131143400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131214900","author":"IdiotSavant","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-IdiotSavant-20250131214900-Masem-20250131143400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IdiotSavant-20250131214900-Masem-20250131143400"></span></dd></dl></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250131162800-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"></span>Oppose</b> per Masems arguments <a href="/wiki/User:Ion.want.uu" title="User:Ion.want.uu">Ion.want.uu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ion.want.uu" title="User talk:Ion.want.uu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ion.want.uu-20250131162800-IdiotSavant-20250131071300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250131162800-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131162800","author":"Ion.want.uu","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ion.want.uu-20250131162800-IdiotSavant-20250131071300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ion.want.uu-20250131162800-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Modest_Genius-20250131163400-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"></span>Oppose</b>. This is merely appointing members to begin a process, not any concrete outcomes. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius"><b style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: maroon;">Modest Genius</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius"><sup>talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20250131163400-IdiotSavant-20250131071300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Modest_Genius-20250131163400-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131163400","author":"Modest Genius","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Modest_Genius-20250131163400-IdiotSavant-20250131071300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Modest_Genius-20250131163400-IdiotSavant-20250131071300"></span></li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Dick_Button" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Dick_Button-January_30-20250131031700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RD:_Dick_Button-January_30-20250131031700"></span>RD: Dick Button<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RD:_Dick_Button-January_30-20250131031700"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: RD: Dick Button"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250131031700-RD:_Dick_Button"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Dick_Button"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Dick_Button"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Dick_Button" title="Dick Button">Dick Button</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Dick_Button" title="Talk:Dick Button">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dick_Button&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dick_Button&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Dick+Button">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://deadline.com/2025/01/dick-button-dead-olympic-skating-champion-announcer-1236273866/">Deadline Hollywood</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BDick+Button%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Dick+Button&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: US figure skater and sports personality. Article has gaps in sourcing. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250131031700-RD:_Dick_Button" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:17, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250131031700-RD:_Dick_Button"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131031700","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Masem-20250131031700-RD:_Dick_Button","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131074600-Masem-20250131031700","c-Joseph2302-20250131142900-Masem-20250131031700","c-Departure\u2013-20250131204200-Masem-20250131031700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250131031700-RD:_Dick_Button"></span> </p><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131074600-Masem-20250131031700"></span>Needs Citations</b>: Few important CN tags covering more than just sentences. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131074600-Masem-20250131031700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:46, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131074600-Masem-20250131031700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131074600","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131074600-Masem-20250131031700","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131074600-Masem-20250131031700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joseph2302-20250131142900-Masem-20250131031700"></span>Oppose</b> as need many more citations to meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNQUALITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNQUALITY">WP:ITNQUALITY</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302"><b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302"><b style="color:#000000">2302</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20250131142900-Masem-20250131031700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:29, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joseph2302-20250131142900-Masem-20250131031700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131142900","author":"Joseph2302","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Joseph2302-20250131142900-Masem-20250131031700","replies":[],"displayName":"Joseph"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joseph2302-20250131142900-Masem-20250131031700"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Departure–-20250131204200-Masem-20250131031700"></span>Oppose</b> death should ideally drop the "is survived by" stuff if they aren't notable. Means of death, if known, should be added. The next paragraph mentioning the plane crash that killed two figure skaters the day before should also be brought into the same paragraph. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20250131204200-Masem-20250131031700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Departure–-20250131204200-Masem-20250131031700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131204200","author":"Departure\u2013","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Departure\u2013-20250131204200-Masem-20250131031700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Departure–-20250131204200-Masem-20250131031700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Marianne_Faithfull" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Marianne_Faithfull-January_30-20250130182900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RD:_Marianne_Faithfull-January_30-20250130182900"></span>RD: Marianne Faithfull<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RD:_Marianne_Faithfull-January_30-20250130182900"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: RD: Marianne Faithfull"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamsyn_Acton-20250130182900-RD:_Marianne_Faithfull"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Marianne_Faithfull"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Marianne_Faithfull"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Marianne_Faithfull" title="Marianne Faithfull">Marianne Faithfull</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Marianne_Faithfull" title="Talk:Marianne Faithfull">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marianne_Faithfull&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Marianne_Faithfull&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Marianne+Faithfull">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8k931j423o">BBC</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Tamsyn_Acton&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Tamsyn Acton (page does not exist)">Tamsyn Acton</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamsyn_Acton" title="User talk:Tamsyn Acton">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tamsyn_Acton&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BMarianne+Faithfull%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Marianne+Faithfull&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thriley" title="User talk:Thriley">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thriley&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BMarianne+Faithfull%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Marianne+Faithfull&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Singer and actress <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Tamsyn_Acton&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Tamsyn Acton (page does not exist)">Tamsyn Acton</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamsyn_Acton" title="User talk:Tamsyn Acton">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Tamsyn_Acton-20250130182900-RD:_Marianne_Faithfull" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamsyn_Acton-20250130182900-RD:_Marianne_Faithfull"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Malvoliox-20250130223600-Tamsyn_Acton-20250130182900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Malvoliox-20250130223600-Tamsyn_Acton-20250130182900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130223600","author":"Malvoliox","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Malvoliox-20250130223600-Tamsyn_Acton-20250130182900","replies":[],"displayName":"~Malvoliox"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Malvoliox-20250130223600-Tamsyn_Acton-20250130182900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131074500-Tamsyn_Acton-20250130182900"></span>Oppose</b> Until most of Citation Needed tags are fixed. -<a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131074500-Tamsyn_Acton-20250130182900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:45, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131074500-Tamsyn_Acton-20250130182900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nyanardsan-20250130150500-RD:_Julius_Chan"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Julius_Chan"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Julius_Chan"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Julius_Chan" title="Julius Chan">Julius Chan</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Julius_Chan" title="Talk:Julius Chan">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Julius_Chan&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Julius_Chan&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Julius+Chan">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/30/sir-julius-chan-papua-new-guineas-last-founding-father-dies-aged-85">[4]</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Nyanardsan" title="User:Nyanardsan">Nyanardsan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nyanardsan" title="User talk:Nyanardsan">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nyanardsan&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJulius+Chan%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Julius+Chan&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Borgenland" title="User:Borgenland">Borgenland</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Borgenland" title="User talk:Borgenland">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Borgenland&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJulius+Chan%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Julius+Chan&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Former Papua New Guinea's prime minister and founding father. Maybe even worth a blurb if expanded more. <a href="/wiki/User:Nyanardsan" title="User:Nyanardsan">Nyanardsan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nyanardsan" title="User talk:Nyanardsan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nyanardsan-20250130150500-RD:_Julius_Chan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nyanardsan-20250130150500-RD:_Julius_Chan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130150500","author":"Nyanardsan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nyanardsan-20250130150500-RD:_Julius_Chan","replies":["c-Fakescientist8000-20250130161400-Nyanardsan-20250130150500","c-Masem-20250130163800-Nyanardsan-20250130150500","c-The_Kip-20250130190200-Nyanardsan-20250130150500","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131074100-Nyanardsan-20250130150500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nyanardsan-20250130150500-RD:_Julius_Chan"></span> </p><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130161400-Nyanardsan-20250130150500"></span>Oppose</b> Several uncited sections in total. Needs to be fixed before it qualifies for ITNRD recognition. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250130161400-Nyanardsan-20250130150500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:14, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130161400-Nyanardsan-20250130150500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130161400","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250130161400-Nyanardsan-20250130150500","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130161400-Nyanardsan-20250130150500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250130163800-Nyanardsan-20250130150500"></span>Oppose RD</b> for lack of sourcing, <b>Oppose blurb</b> as nothing to suggest he was a major figure via legacy, impact, or significance outside of being a national leader. Not all national leaders are necessarily major figures. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250130163800-Nyanardsan-20250130150500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250130163800-Nyanardsan-20250130150500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130163800","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Masem-20250130163800-Nyanardsan-20250130150500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250130163800-Nyanardsan-20250130150500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250130190200-Nyanardsan-20250130150500"></span>Oppose RD on quality</b> per Masem. <b>Conditionally oppose blurb</b> - I’ll be convinced to switch if the article can elaborate on his status as a founding father/major figure during the Bougainville conflict. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250130190200-Nyanardsan-20250130150500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250130190200-Nyanardsan-20250130150500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130190200","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250130190200-Nyanardsan-20250130150500","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250130190200-Nyanardsan-20250130150500"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131074100-Nyanardsan-20250130150500"></span>Oppose</b> for lack of sourcing. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131074100-Nyanardsan-20250130150500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:41, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131074100-Nyanardsan-20250130150500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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YR4"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250130222900-(Closed)_2024_YR4"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Consensus to post will not develop. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250130222900-(Closed)_2024_YR4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:29, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span 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page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </p> </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="2024_YR4"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_2024_YR4"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/2024_YR4" title="2024 YR4">2024 YR4</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_YR4" title="Talk:2024 YR4">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_YR4&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_YR4&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+YR4">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> The newly discovered <a href="/wiki/Near-Earth_asteroid" class="mw-redirect" title="Near-Earth asteroid">asteroid</a> <a href="/wiki/2024_YR4" title="2024 YR4">2024 YR4</a> has a greater than 1% chance of impacting Earth in 2032. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/29/science/asteroid-2024-yr4-earth.html">New York Times</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/jan/30/asteroid-spotted-chance-colliding-with-earth-2032">Guardian</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.space.com/180-foot-asteroid-1-in-83-chance-hitting-Earth-2032">space.com</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://iawn.net/documents/NOTIFICATIONS/IAWN_Potential_Impact_Notification_2024_YR4.pdf">IAWN</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Renerpho" title="User:Renerpho">Renerpho</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Renerpho" title="User talk:Renerpho">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Renerpho&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+YR4%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+YR4&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Renerpho" title="User:Renerpho">Renerpho</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Renerpho" title="User talk:Renerpho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Renerpho-20250130161200-(Closed)_2024_YR4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Renerpho-20250130161200-(Closed)_2024_YR4"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130161200","author":"Renerpho","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Renerpho-20250130161200-(Closed)_2024_YR4","replies":["c-Masem-20250130164200-Renerpho-20250130161200","c-Fakescientist8000-20250130165800-Renerpho-20250130161200","c-Scaramouche33-20250130170800-Renerpho-20250130161200","c-Modest_Genius-20250130172200-Renerpho-20250130161200","c-The_Kip-20250130184600-Renerpho-20250130161200","c-GenevieveDEon-20250130195000-Renerpho-20250130161200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Renerpho-20250130161200-(Closed)_2024_YR4"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250130164200-Renerpho-20250130161200"></span>Oppose</b> though it's passing in 2032 may be a story. Objects with trajectories towards earth are discovered are the time, so this one is only novel because it gets above 1% chance for striking earth. But as newly discovered this should be prime DYK material. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250130164200-Renerpho-20250130161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250130164200-Renerpho-20250130161200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130164200","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Masem-20250130164200-Renerpho-20250130161200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250130164200-Renerpho-20250130161200"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130165800-Renerpho-20250130161200"></span>Oppose</b> For now, great DYK material, but planning 2 months in the future often goes haywire - much less 7 years. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250130165800-Renerpho-20250130161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130165800-Renerpho-20250130161200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130165800","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250130165800-Renerpho-20250130161200","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130165800-Renerpho-20250130161200"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scaramouche33-20250130170800-Renerpho-20250130161200"></span>Oppose</b> It's score on the Torino scale will eventually get reassigned to 0 once it's close enough to make better observations/predictions. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Scaramouche33&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Scaramouche33 (page does not exist)">Scaramouche33</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scaramouche33" title="User talk:Scaramouche33">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scaramouche33-20250130170800-Renerpho-20250130161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scaramouche33-20250130170800-Renerpho-20250130161200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130170800","author":"Scaramouche33","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Scaramouche33-20250130170800-Renerpho-20250130161200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scaramouche33-20250130170800-Renerpho-20250130161200"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Modest_Genius-20250130172200-Renerpho-20250130161200"></span>Oppose for now</b>. If the impact probability rises to the point that governments need to do something about it (e.g. a new DART-style mission), sure that would be worth an ITN blurb. But it's far more likely that further observations show this won't hit Earth, so is a non-event. I understand why this has been nominated and the article is in decent shape. It's also new, so could be nominated for DYK, which is a more suitable venue. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius"><b style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: maroon;">Modest Genius</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius"><sup>talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20250130172200-Renerpho-20250130161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Modest_Genius-20250130172200-Renerpho-20250130161200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130172200","author":"Modest Genius","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Modest_Genius-20250130172200-Renerpho-20250130161200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Modest_Genius-20250130172200-Renerpho-20250130161200"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250130184600-Renerpho-20250130161200"></span>Oppose</b> per above. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250130184600-Renerpho-20250130161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250130184600-Renerpho-20250130161200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130184600","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250130184600-Renerpho-20250130161200","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250130184600-Renerpho-20250130161200"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250130195000-Renerpho-20250130161200"></span>Oppose</b> - We don't post news that might happen with 1% likelihood 7 years from now. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GenevieveDEon-20250130195000-Renerpho-20250130161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250130195000-Renerpho-20250130161200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130195000","author":"GenevieveDEon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GenevieveDEon-20250130195000-Renerpho-20250130161200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenevieveDEon-20250130195000-Renerpho-20250130161200"></span></li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. 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background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Current_events/2025_January_29" title="Portal:Current events/2025 January 29">Portal:Current events/2025 January 29</a></div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248507241"><div class="current-events"> <div role="region" aria-label="January 29" id="2025_January_29" class="current-events-main vevent"> <div class="current-events-heading plainlinks"> <div class="current-events-title" role="heading"><span class="summary">January 29, 2025<span style="display:none"> (<span class="bday dtstart published updated itvstart">2025-01-29</span>)</span> (Wednesday)</span> </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_January_29&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_January_29&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_January_29&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> <p><b>Armed conflicts and attacks</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Kivu_conflict" title="Kivu conflict">Kivu conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/M23_offensive_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="M23 offensive (2022–present)">M23 offensive</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Goma_offensive" title="2025 Goma offensive">2025 Goma offensive</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/March_23_Movement" title="March 23 Movement">M23</a> rebels solidify control of <a href="/wiki/Goma" title="Goma">Goma</a> and are confirmed to be holding captured <a href="/wiki/Armed_Forces_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo" title="Armed Forces of the Democratic Republic of the Congo">Congolese troops</a> and allied <a href="/wiki/Wazalendo" title="Wazalendo">Wazalendo</a> militiamen at the <a href="/wiki/Stade_de_l%27Unit%C3%A9" title="Stade de l'Unité">Stade de l'Unité</a>. They also begin advancing on <a href="/wiki/Bukavu" title="Bukavu">Bukavu</a>, capital of the <a href="/wiki/South_Kivu" title="South Kivu">South Kivu Province</a>, according to senior <a href="/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo" title="Democratic Republic of the Congo">Congolese</a> officials and a <a href="/wiki/Rwanda" title="Rwanda">Rwandan</a> diplomat. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/1/29/dr-congo-live-news-rwanda-backed-m23-rebels-tighten-grip-on-goma">(Al Jazeera)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/rwandas-kagame-says-he-agrees-with-us-need-ceasefire-congo-2025-01-29/">(Reuters)</a></li> <li>In an emergency address to the nation, <a href="/wiki/President_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo" title="President of the Democratic Republic of the Congo">Congolese president</a> <a href="/wiki/F%C3%A9lix_Tshisekedi" title="Félix Tshisekedi">Félix Tshisekedi</a> calls for calm and says "a vigorous and coordinated response against these terrorists and their sponsors is underway" by the armed forces, and also cancels participation in a regional summit with <a href="/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_Rwanda" title="List of presidents of Rwanda">Rwandan president</a> <a href="/wiki/Paul_Kagame" title="Paul Kagame">Paul Kagame</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/01/29/congo-rwanda-m23-rebels-goma-tshisekedi-kagame/">(<i>Foreign Policy</i>)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/01/30/dr-congo-president-says-army-mounting-vigorous-response-to-m23-advance_6737579_4.html">(<i>Le Monde</i>)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Around 280 <a href="/wiki/Romanians" title="Romanians">Romanian</a> <a href="/wiki/Mercenary" title="Mercenary">mercenaries</a> fighting alongside the Congolese military in <a href="/wiki/North_Kivu" title="North Kivu">North Kivu</a> surrender to the M23, according to the <a href="/wiki/Rwandan_Defence_Force" title="Rwandan Defence Force">Rwandan military</a>. They are now being transported to <a href="/wiki/Kigali" title="Kigali">Kigali</a> after being handed over to Rwandan authorities. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0j4d7v229o">(BBC News)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/War_against_the_Islamic_State" title="War against the Islamic State">War against the Islamic State</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Somali_Civil_War_(2009%E2%80%93present)" title="Somali Civil War (2009–present)">War in Somalia</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Islamic_State_insurgency_in_Puntland" title="Islamic State insurgency in Puntland">Islamic State insurgency in Puntland</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Puntland" title="Puntland">Puntland</a> authorities deport around a thousand undocumented <a href="/wiki/Ethiopians" title="Ethiopians">Ethiopians</a> from the cities of <a href="/wiki/Bosaso" title="Bosaso">Bosaso</a>, <a href="/wiki/Galkayo" title="Galkayo">Galkayo</a>, <a href="/wiki/Qardho" title="Qardho">Qardho</a>, and the state’s capital, <a href="/wiki/Garoowe" title="Garoowe">Garoowe</a>, as part of an ongoing crackdown on foreigners without legal status, following the discovery of foreign fighters acting as <a href="/wiki/Islamic_State" title="Islamic State">Islamic State</a> recruiters in the <a href="/wiki/Cal_Miskaad" title="Cal Miskaad">Cal Miskaad</a> mountains of the <a href="/wiki/Bari_Region" class="mw-redirect" title="Bari Region">Bari Region</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2025/Jan/200008/puntland_deports_hundreds_of_undocumented_ethiopians_over_isis_recruitment_concerns.aspx">(Hiiraan Online)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.idilnews.com/puntland-oo-dib-ugu-celisay-dalkooda-boqolaal-itoobiyaan-ah/">(Idil News)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://horseedmedia.net/puntland-oo-masaafurisay-boqolaal-ajaaniib-ah-oo-sharci-darro-ku-joogay-deegaanadeeda/399908/">(Horseed Media)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Chasiv_Yar" title="Battle of Chasiv Yar">Battle of Chasiv Yar</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces" title="Russian Armed Forces">Russian forces</a> have captured the city of <a href="/wiki/Chasiv_Yar" title="Chasiv Yar">Chasiv Yar</a> in <a href="/wiki/Donetsk_Oblast" title="Donetsk Oblast">Donetsk Oblast</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a>, after a year of intense fighting for control of the <a href="/wiki/Front_line" title="Front line">front line</a> city. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/01/29/chasiv-yar-falls-to-russian-forces-after-nearly-a-year-of-intense-fighting-a87781">(<i>The Moscow Times</i>)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Gaza_war" title="Gaza war">Gaza war</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Gaza_war_ceasefire" title="2025 Gaza war ceasefire">2025 Gaza war ceasefire</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/U.S." class="mw-redirect" title="U.S.">U.S.</a> Middle East Envoy <a href="/wiki/Steve_Witkoff" title="Steve Witkoff">Steve Witkoff</a> visits the <a href="/wiki/Gaza_Strip" title="Gaza Strip">Gaza Strip</a> and meets with <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Israel" title="Prime Minister of Israel">Israeli PM</a> <a href="/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu" title="Benjamin Netanyahu">Benjamin Netanyahu</a> to assure that the <a href="/wiki/Ceasefire" title="Ceasefire">ceasefire</a> remains intact. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5279178/us-mideast-envoy-steve-witkoff-gaza-israel-netanyahu">(NPR)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Business and economy</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Expansion_of_Heathrow_Airport" title="Expansion of Heathrow Airport">Expansion of Heathrow Airport</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/United_Kingdom" title="United Kingdom">UK</a> <a href="/wiki/Chancellor_of_the_Exchequer" title="Chancellor of the Exchequer">Chancellor of the Exchequer</a> <a href="/wiki/Rachel_Reeves" title="Rachel Reeves">Rachel Reeves</a> approves the construction of a third <a href="/wiki/Runway" title="Runway">runway</a> at <a href="/wiki/Greater_London" title="Greater London">Greater London</a>'s <a href="/wiki/Heathrow_Airport" title="Heathrow Airport">Heathrow Airport</a> after decades of delays. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://news.sky.com/story/chancellor-rachel-reeves-announces-backing-for-third-heathrow-runway-13298590">(Sky News)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Disasters and accidents</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela" class="mw-redirect" title="2025 Prayag Kumbh Mela">2025 Prayag Kumbh Mela</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Prayag_Maha_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush" title="2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela crowd crush">2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela crowd crush</a> <ul><li>At least 30 people are killed in a <a href="/wiki/Crowd_crush" class="mw-redirect" title="Crowd crush">crowd crush</a> at a <a href="/wiki/Hinduism" title="Hinduism">Hindu</a> festival in <a href="/wiki/Prayagraj" title="Prayagraj">Prayagraj</a>, <a href="/wiki/Uttar_Pradesh" title="Uttar Pradesh">Uttar Pradesh</a>, <a href="/wiki/India" title="India">India</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cgq07z0yexvt">(BBC)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash" title="2025 Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900 crash">2025 Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900 crash</a> <ul><li>A <a href="/wiki/Beechcraft_1900" title="Beechcraft 1900">Beechcraft 1900D</a> carrying employees of an <a href="/wiki/Petroleum_industry" title="Petroleum industry">oil company</a> crashes in <a href="/wiki/Unity_(state)" title="Unity (state)">Unity</a>, <a href="/wiki/South_Sudan" title="South Sudan">South Sudan</a>, killing 20 of the 21 people onboard, including one <a href="/wiki/India" title="India">Indian</a> and two <a href="/wiki/China" title="China">Chinese</a> nationals. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/29/africa/south-sudan-plane-crash-intl/index.html">(CNN)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/plane-crash-south-sudans-unity-state-kills-18-uns-radio-miraya-reports-2025-01-29/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2025_Potomac_River_mid-air_collision" title="2025 Potomac River mid-air collision">2025 Potomac River mid-air collision</a> <ul><li>A <a href="/wiki/PSA_Airlines" title="PSA Airlines">PSA Airlines</a> <a href="/wiki/Bombardier_CRJ-700" class="mw-redirect" title="Bombardier CRJ-700">Bombardier CRJ-700</a> operating as <a href="/wiki/American_Eagle_(airline_brand)" title="American Eagle (airline brand)">American Eagle</a> Flight 5342 collides with a <a href="/wiki/United_States_Army" title="United States Army">U.S. Army</a> <a href="/wiki/Sikorsky_UH-60_Black_Hawk" title="Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk">Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk</a> over the <a href="/wiki/Potomac_River" title="Potomac River">Potomac River</a> near <a href="/wiki/Ronald_Reagan_Washington_National_Airport" title="Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport">Reagan National Airport</a> in <a href="/wiki/Washington,_D.C." title="Washington, D.C.">Washington, D.C.</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>, killing at least 28 people between both aircraft and causing a shutdown of flights in and out of the airport. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wusa9.com/article/travel/all-flights-halted-at-reagan-national-airport-due-to-plane-crash-potomac-river-dc/65-e2090f2d-0bca-4a4c-944c-215a6398a52d">(WUSA-9)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/live-updates-plane-crashes-potomac-river-collision-helicopter-reagan-n-rcna189942">(NBC NEWS)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Thirteen <a href="/wiki/Artisanal_mining" title="Artisanal mining">artisanal miners</a>, including three children, are killed when a tunnel at a <a href="/wiki/Gold_mine" class="mw-redirect" title="Gold mine">gold mine</a> floods after a reservoir spill in <a href="/wiki/Kangaba_Cercle" title="Kangaba Cercle">Kangaba</a>, <a href="/wiki/Koulikoro_Region" title="Koulikoro Region">Koulikoro</a>, <a href="/wiki/Mali" title="Mali">Mali</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/mali-gold-mine-accident-kills-more-than-dozen-including-women-children-2025-02-01/">(Reuters)</a></li> <li>Five people, four from <a href="/wiki/Norway" title="Norway">Norway</a> and one from <a href="/wiki/Switzerland" title="Switzerland">Switzerland</a>, are killed in two separate avalanches while <a href="/wiki/Off-piste_skiing" class="mw-redirect" title="Off-piste skiing">off-piste skiing</a> in the <a href="/wiki/French_Alps" title="French Alps">French Alps</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czep67j3w8do">(BBC)</a></li> <li>A <a href="/wiki/Venezuela" title="Venezuela">Venezuelan</a> <a href="/wiki/Ministry_of_Interior,_Justice_and_Peace_(Venezuela)" title="Ministry of Interior, Justice and Peace (Venezuela)">Ministry of Interior, Justice and Peace</a> <a href="/wiki/Cessna_Citation_II" title="Cessna Citation II">Cessna Citation II</a> aircraft crashes shortly after takeoff from <a href="/wiki/Generalissimo_Francisco_de_Miranda_Air_Base" title="Generalissimo Francisco de Miranda Air Base">Generalissimo Francisco de Miranda Air Base</a> in <a href="/wiki/Caracas" title="Caracas">Caracas</a>, Venezuela, killing all three people on board. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://caraotadigital.net/venezuela/avioneta-se-estrello-en-el-sector-el-volcan-en-el-hatillo-habia-despegado-desde-la-carlota/">(Caraota Digital)</a></li></ul> <p><b>International relations</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Burkina_Faso" title="Burkina Faso">Burkina Faso</a>, <a href="/wiki/Mali" title="Mali">Mali</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Niger" title="Niger">Niger</a> formally withdraw from the <a href="/wiki/ECOWAS" title="ECOWAS">ECOWAS</a> regional bloc. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yvd91j72eo">(BBC)</a></li></ul> <p><b>Law and crime</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/First_100_days_of_the_second_Donald_Trump_presidency" title="First 100 days of the second Donald Trump presidency">First 100 days of the second Donald Trump presidency</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/President_of_the_United_States" title="President of the United States">U.S. President</a> <a href="/wiki/Donald_Trump" title="Donald Trump">Donald Trump</a> signs the <a href="/wiki/Laken_Riley_Act" title="Laken Riley Act">Laken Riley Act</a> into law, the first legislation of <a href="/wiki/Second_presidency_of_Donald_Trump" title="Second presidency of Donald Trump">Trump's second term</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna188917">(NBC News)</a></li> <li>President Trump announces plans to transform the <a href="/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp" title="Guantanamo Bay detention camp">United States detention facility</a> in <a href="/wiki/Cuba" title="Cuba">Cuba</a>'s <a href="/wiki/Guant%C3%A1namo_Bay" title="Guantánamo Bay">Guantánamo Bay</a> into a holding center for undocumented immigrants, capable of hosting 30,000 people. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/29/us-president-trump-to-transfer-undocumented-immigrants-to-guantanamo">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Baden-W%C3%BCrttemberg_Police" title="Baden-Württemberg Police">Police</a> in <a href="/wiki/Stuttgart" title="Stuttgart">Stuttgart</a>, <a href="/wiki/Germany" title="Germany">Germany</a>, arrest 59 <a href="/wiki/France" title="France">French</a> fans of the <a href="/wiki/Paris_Saint-Germain" class="mw-redirect" title="Paris Saint-Germain">Paris Saint-Germain</a> football club for <a href="/wiki/Hooliganism" title="Hooliganism">hooliganism</a> before a match against German club <a href="/wiki/VfB_Stuttgart" title="VfB Stuttgart">VfB Stuttgart</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/germany-psg-fans-arrested-champions-league/a-71443613">(DW)</a></li> <li>Former <a href="/wiki/U.S._Senator" class="mw-redirect" title="U.S. Senator">U.S. Senator</a> <a href="/wiki/Bob_Menendez" title="Bob Menendez">Bob Menendez</a> of <a href="/wiki/New_Jersey" title="New Jersey">New Jersey</a> is sentenced to 11 years in prison, following his conviction on <a href="/wiki/Bribery" title="Bribery">bribery</a> and <a href="/wiki/Corruption" title="Corruption">corruption</a> charges. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyekv226l2o">(BBC)</a></li></ul> <p><b>Politics and elections</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Second_presidency_of_Donald_Trump" title="Second presidency of Donald Trump">Second presidency of Donald Trump</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_United_States_federal_government_grant_pause" title="2025 United States federal government grant pause">2025 United States federal government grant pause</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> <a href="/wiki/Office_of_Management_and_Budget" title="Office of Management and Budget">Office of Management and Budget</a> rescinds a memo from Monday that would have paused <a href="/wiki/Administration_of_federal_assistance_in_the_United_States" title="Administration of federal assistance in the United States">federal financial assistance programs</a> implicated by select <a href="/wiki/Executive_orders" class="mw-redirect" title="Executive orders">executive orders</a> of President Donald Trump, following a temporary block of the order on Tuesday by a <a href="/wiki/Loren_AliKhan" title="Loren AliKhan">federal judge</a>. Following the rescission, <a href="/wiki/White_House_Press_Secretary" title="White House Press Secretary">White House Press Secretary</a> <a href="/wiki/Karoline_Leavitt" title="Karoline Leavitt">Karoline Leavitt</a> states that the Trump administration will continue to pursue a freeze of federal funds. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyv48540n4po">(BBC)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Syrian_civil_war" title="Syrian civil war">Syrian civil war</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Ahmed_al-Sharaa" title="Ahmed al-Sharaa">Ahmed al-Sharaa</a> is declared the <a href="/wiki/President_of_Syria" title="President of Syria">president of Syria</a> during the <a href="/wiki/Syrian_transitional_government" title="Syrian transitional government">transition period</a>, a month after <a href="/wiki/Bashar_al-Assad" title="Bashar al-Assad">Bashar al-Assad</a> was <a href="/wiki/Fall_of_the_Assad_regime" title="Fall of the Assad regime">ousted</a> by rebel forces. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/syrias-leader-sharaa-named-president-transitional-period-state-news-agency-says-2025-01-29/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Sports</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_in_sumo" title="2025 in sumo">2025 in sumo</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Mongolia" title="Mongolia">Mongolian</a> <a href="/wiki/Sum%C5%8Dtori" class="mw-redirect" title="Sumōtori">sumōtori</a> <a href="/wiki/H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB_Tomokatsu" title="Hōshōryū Tomokatsu">Hōshōryū Tomokatsu</a> becomes the 74th <a href="/wiki/Yokozuna" class="mw-redirect" title="Yokozuna">yokozuna</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20250129/k10014706251000.html">(NHK)</a></li></ul></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)-January_29-20250131010700"><span id="RD:_Richard_Williamson_.28bishop.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)-January_29-20250131010700"></span>RD: Richard Williamson (bishop)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)-January_29-20250131010700"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: RD: Richard Williamson (bishop)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250131010700-RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Richard_Williamson_(bishop)"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Richard_Williamson_(bishop)" title="Richard Williamson (bishop)">Richard Williamson (bishop)</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Richard_Williamson_(bishop)" title="Talk:Richard Williamson (bishop)">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Williamson_(bishop)&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Richard_Williamson_(bishop)&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Richard+Williamson+%28bishop%29">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2025/01/30/richard-williamson-traditionalist-catholic-pope-holocaust/">The Daily Telegraph</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ad_Orientem&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BRichard+Williamson+%28bishop%29%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Richard+Williamson+%28bishop%29&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Schismatic far-right Catholic bishop (formerly <a href="/wiki/SSPX" class="mw-redirect" title="SSPX">SSPX</a>). A handful of CNs but article is not in dreadful shape. Highly controversial figure. <a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20250131010700-RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250131010700-RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131010700","author":"Ad Orientem","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ad_Orientem-20250131010700-RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075300-Ad_Orientem-20250131010700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ad_Orientem-20250131010700-RD:_Richard_Williamson_(bishop)"></span> </p><dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075300-Ad_Orientem-20250131010700"></span>Needs Work</b>: I though of nominating the article before and fixed a thing myself, but it still has lots of things to make right. Many tags related to citations, unreliability and think some of it could be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">original research</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075300-Ad_Orientem-20250131010700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:53, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075300-Ad_Orientem-20250131010700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" 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Alexandr Kirsanov"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Curbon7-20250131054100-RD:_Alexandr_Kirsanov"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Alexandr_Kirsanov"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Alexandr_Kirsanov"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Alexandr_Kirsanov" title="Alexandr Kirsanov">Alexandr Kirsanov</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Alexandr_Kirsanov" title="Talk:Alexandr Kirsanov">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alexandr_Kirsanov&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Alexandr_Kirsanov&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Alexandr+Kirsanov">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/wife-skating-coach-killed-dc-plane-crash-speaks/story?id=118274223">ABC News</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Curbon7" title="User:Curbon7">Curbon7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Curbon7" title="User talk:Curbon7">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Curbon7&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BAlexandr+Kirsanov%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Alexandr+Kirsanov&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fskel&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fskel (page does not exist)">Fskel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fskel" title="User talk:Fskel">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fskel&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BAlexandr+Kirsanov%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Alexandr+Kirsanov&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Figure skater killed in the plane crash. Stub. <a href="/wiki/User:Curbon7" title="User:Curbon7">Curbon7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Curbon7" title="User talk:Curbon7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Curbon7-20250131054100-RD:_Alexandr_Kirsanov" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:41, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Curbon7-20250131054100-RD:_Alexandr_Kirsanov"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131054100","author":"Curbon7","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Curbon7-20250131054100-RD:_Alexandr_Kirsanov","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075600-Curbon7-20250131054100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Curbon7-20250131054100-RD:_Alexandr_Kirsanov"></span> </p><dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075600-Curbon7-20250131054100"></span>Not needed</b>!: The plane crash should not be burdened to take over notability of everyone killed in it. The article is stubby. <b>Oppose</b> on quality. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075600-Curbon7-20250131054100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075600-Curbon7-20250131054100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Curbon7-20250131054100-RD:_Inna_Volyanskaya"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Inna_Volyanskaya"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Inna_Volyanskaya"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Inna_Volyanskaya" title="Inna Volyanskaya">Inna Volyanskaya</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Inna_Volyanskaya" title="Talk:Inna Volyanskaya">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Inna_Volyanskaya&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Inna_Volyanskaya&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Inna+Volyanskaya">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-figure-skaters-were-board-plane-that-crashed-into-potomac-river-2025-01-30/">Reuters</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Curbon7" title="User:Curbon7">Curbon7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Curbon7" title="User talk:Curbon7">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Curbon7&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BInna+Volyanskaya%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Inna+Volyanskaya&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Sunshineisles2" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sunshineisles2">Sunshineisles2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sunshineisles2" title="User talk:Sunshineisles2">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sunshineisles2&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BInna+Volyanskaya%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Inna+Volyanskaya&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Figure skater killed in the plane crash. Stub. <a href="/wiki/User:Curbon7" title="User:Curbon7">Curbon7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Curbon7" title="User talk:Curbon7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Curbon7-20250131054100-RD:_Inna_Volyanskaya" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:41, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Curbon7-20250131054100-RD:_Inna_Volyanskaya"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131054100","author":"Curbon7","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Curbon7-20250131054100-RD:_Inna_Volyanskaya","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075700-Curbon7-20250131054100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Curbon7-20250131054100-RD:_Inna_Volyanskaya"></span> </p><dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075700-Curbon7-20250131054100"></span>Not needed</b>!: The plane crash should not be burdened to take over notability of everyone killed in it. The article is <b>a stub</b>. <b>Oppose</b> on quality. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075700-Curbon7-20250131054100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:57, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075700-Curbon7-20250131054100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131075700","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075700-Curbon7-20250131054100","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131075700-Curbon7-20250131054100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Vadim_Naumov" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Vadim_Naumov-January_29-20250130165000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RD:_Vadim_Naumov-January_29-20250130165000"></span>RD: Vadim Naumov<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RD:_Vadim_Naumov-January_29-20250130165000"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: RD: Vadim Naumov"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jessintime-20250130165000-RD:_Vadim_Naumov"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Vadim_Naumov"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Vadim_Naumov"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Vadim_Naumov" title="Vadim Naumov">Vadim Naumov</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Vadim_Naumov" title="Talk:Vadim Naumov">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vadim_Naumov&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Vadim_Naumov&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Vadim+Naumov">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.npr.org/2025/01/30/nx-s1-5280189/dc-plane-crash-figure-skaters">NPR</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Jessintime" title="User:Jessintime">Jessintime</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jessintime" title="User talk:Jessintime">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jessintime&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BVadim+Naumov%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Vadim+Naumov&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Champion figure skater was onboard the American Airlines flight with Shishkova (nominated separately below). ~~ <a href="/wiki/User:Jessintime" title="User:Jessintime">Jessintime</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jessintime" title="User talk:Jessintime">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Jessintime-20250130165000-RD:_Vadim_Naumov" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jessintime-20250130165000-RD:_Vadim_Naumov"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130165000","author":"Jessintime","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jessintime-20250130165000-RD:_Vadim_Naumov","replies":["c-Masem-20250130173700-Jessintime-20250130165000","c-Malvoliox-20250131214200-Jessintime-20250130165000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jessintime-20250130165000-RD:_Vadim_Naumov"></span> </p><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250130173700-Jessintime-20250130165000"></span>Needs more sources <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250130173700-Jessintime-20250130165000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250130173700-Jessintime-20250130165000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130173700","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Masem-20250130173700-Jessintime-20250130165000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250130173700-Jessintime-20250130165000"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Malvoliox-20250131214200-Jessintime-20250130165000"></span>Weak oppose</b>: Most citation issues look resolved now, but we still need citations for the section on programs (this is true for both Shishkova and Naumov). If that's fixed, feel free to consider this <b>support</b>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Malvoliox" title="User:Malvoliox"><span style="color: darkgreen">~Malvoliox</span></a></b> <i>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Malvoliox" title="User talk:Malvoliox">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Malvoliox" title="Special:Contributions/Malvoliox">contribs</a>)</i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Malvoliox-20250131214200-Jessintime-20250130165000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:42, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Malvoliox-20250131214200-Jessintime-20250130165000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131214200","author":"Malvoliox","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Malvoliox-20250131214200-Jessintime-20250130165000","replies":[],"displayName":"~Malvoliox"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Malvoliox-20250131214200-Jessintime-20250130165000"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova-January_29-20250130165000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova-January_29-20250130165000"></span>RD: Evgenia Shishkova<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova-January_29-20250130165000"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: RD: Evgenia Shishkova"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jessintime-20250130165000-RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Evgenia_Shishkova"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Evgenia_Shishkova" title="Evgenia Shishkova">Evgenia Shishkova</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Evgenia_Shishkova" title="Talk:Evgenia Shishkova">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Evgenia_Shishkova&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Evgenia_Shishkova&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Evgenia+Shishkova">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.npr.org/2025/01/30/nx-s1-5280189/dc-plane-crash-figure-skaters">NPR</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Jessintime" title="User:Jessintime">Jessintime</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jessintime" title="User talk:Jessintime">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jessintime&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BEvgenia+Shishkova%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Evgenia+Shishkova&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Champion figure skater was onboard the American Airlines flight with Naumov (nominated separately above). ~~ <a href="/wiki/User:Jessintime" title="User:Jessintime">Jessintime</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jessintime" title="User talk:Jessintime">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Jessintime-20250130165000-RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jessintime-20250130165000-RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130165000","author":"Jessintime","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jessintime-20250130165000-RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova","replies":["c-Masem-20250130173700-Jessintime-20250130165000-1","c-Malvoliox-20250131214300-Jessintime-20250130165000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jessintime-20250130165000-RD:_Evgenia_Shishkova"></span> </p><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250130173700-Jessintime-20250130165000-1"></span>Needs more sources <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250130173700-Jessintime-20250130165000-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250130173700-Jessintime-20250130165000-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130173700","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Masem-20250130173700-Jessintime-20250130165000-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250130173700-Jessintime-20250130165000-1"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Malvoliox-20250131214300-Jessintime-20250130165000"></span>Weak oppose</b>: Most citation issues look resolved now, but we still need citations for the section on programs (this is true for both Shishkova and Naumov). If that's fixed, feel free to consider this <b>support</b>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Malvoliox" title="User:Malvoliox"><span style="color: darkgreen">~Malvoliox</span></a></b> <i>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Malvoliox" title="User talk:Malvoliox">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Malvoliox" title="Special:Contributions/Malvoliox">contribs</a>)</i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Malvoliox-20250131214300-Jessintime-20250130165000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:43, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Malvoliox-20250131214300-Jessintime-20250130165000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Momika"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900-(Posted)_RD:_Salwan_Momika"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Salwan_Momika"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Salwan_Momika"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Salwan_Momika" title="Salwan Momika">Salwan Momika</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Salwan_Momika" title="Talk:Salwan Momika">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Salwan_Momika&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Salwan_Momika&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Salwan+Momika">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> Iraqi <a href="/wiki/Criticism_of_Islam" title="Criticism of Islam">anti-Islam activist</a> <a href="/wiki/Salwan_Momika" title="Salwan Momika">Salwan Momika</a> involved in the <a href="/wiki/2023_Quran_burnings_in_Sweden" title="2023 Quran burnings in Sweden">2023 Quran burnings in Sweden</a> is <a href="/wiki/Killing_of_Salwan_Momika" title="Killing of Salwan Momika"><b>assassinated</b></a> in his apartment in <a href="/wiki/S%C3%B6dert%C3%A4lje" title="Södertälje">Södertälje</a>. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpdx2wqpg7zo">BBC</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/salwan-momika-iraqi-man-who-carried-out-several-quran-burnings-in-sweden-shot-dead-five-people-arrested/article69158970.ece">The Hindu</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/30/world/europe/salwan-momika-quran-sweden-killed.html">NYT</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ExclusiveEditor&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BSalwan+Momika%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Salwan+Momika&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:BabbaQ" title="User:BabbaQ">BabbaQ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BabbaQ" title="User talk:BabbaQ">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BabbaQ&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BSalwan+Momika%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Salwan+Momika&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Khaatir" title="User:Khaatir">Khaatir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Khaatir" title="User talk:Khaatir">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Khaatir&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BSalwan+Momika%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Salwan+Momika&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Atheist anti-Islam activist Assaisnated. Maybe not a blurb, but RD-able for sure. Well cited. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900-(Posted)_RD:_Salwan_Momika" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900-(Posted)_RD:_Salwan_Momika"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130115900","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900-(Posted)_RD:_Salwan_Momika","replies":["c-BabbaQ-20250130120400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-Yo.dazo-20250130122500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130130900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-Fakescientist8000-20250130131500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-Harizotoh9-20250130132200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-ArionStar-20250130134800-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-Prodrummer619-20250130175600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-The_Kip-20250130184900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-Harizotoh9-20250130192600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20250130200900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-SpectralIon-20250130201800-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-Yakikaki-20250130222300-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-BorgQueen-20250131015200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-BabbaQ-20250131101500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","c-Varoon2542-20250131163900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900-(Posted)_RD:_Salwan_Momika"></span> </p><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BabbaQ-20250130120400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Support Blurb</b> - I see no issues. Well cited.<a href="/wiki/User:BabbaQ" title="User:BabbaQ">BabbaQ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BabbaQ" title="User talk:BabbaQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BabbaQ-20250130120400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BabbaQ-20250130120400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130120400","author":"BabbaQ","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BabbaQ-20250130120400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BabbaQ-20250130120400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yo.dazo-20250130122500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Support</b> but I'm surprised the Death section is so short. <a href="/wiki/User:Yo.dazo" title="User:Yo.dazo">Yo.dazo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yo.dazo" title="User talk:Yo.dazo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Yo.dazo-20250130122500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yo.dazo-20250130122500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130122700-Yo.dazo-20250130122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130122700-Yo.dazo-20250130122500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130122700","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130122700-Yo.dazo-20250130122500","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130122700-Yo.dazo-20250130122500"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130130900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Support</b> per nom. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130130900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130130900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130130900","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130130900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130130900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130131500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Support RD</b> Article looks good in both length and sourcing. However, <b>oppose blurb</b> on notability. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250130131500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130131500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130131500","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250130131500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130142400-Fakescientist8000-20250130131500"],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130131500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130142400-Fakescientist8000-20250130131500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fakescientist8000</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a>:</span> You may clarify your positions, as a blurb is added now. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130142400-Fakescientist8000-20250130131500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:24, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130142400-Fakescientist8000-20250130131500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130142400","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130142400-Fakescientist8000-20250130131500","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130142400-Fakescientist8000-20250130131500"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harizotoh9-20250130132200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Support</b> Ongoing investigation, so more information will be revealed. <a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harizotoh9" title="User talk:Harizotoh9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Harizotoh9-20250130132200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harizotoh9-20250130132200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130132200","author":"Harizotoh9","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Harizotoh9-20250130132200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harizotoh9-20250130132200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250130134800-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Support</b> Blurb? ("Iraqi <a href="/wiki/Criticism_of_Islam" title="Criticism of Islam">anti-Islam activist</a> <b><a href="/wiki/Salwan_Momika" title="Salwan Momika">Salwan Momika</a></b> involved in the <a href="/wiki/2023_Quran_burnings_in_Sweden" title="2023 Quran burnings in Sweden">2023 Quran burnings in Sweden</a> is assassinated in his apartment in <a href="/wiki/S%C3%B6dert%C3%A4lje" title="Södertälje">Södertälje</a>.") <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250130134800-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:48, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250130134800-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130134800","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250130134800-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130135600-ArionStar-20250130134800","c-Yo.dazo-20250130140800-ArionStar-20250130134800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250130134800-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130135600-ArionStar-20250130134800"></span>I've put it in the template, with attribution in edit summary. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130135600-ArionStar-20250130134800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130135600-ArionStar-20250130134800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130135600","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130135600-ArionStar-20250130134800","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250130135700-ExclusiveEditor-20250130135600"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130135600-ArionStar-20250130134800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250130135700-ExclusiveEditor-20250130135600"></span>I think blurb is more appropriate. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250130135700-ExclusiveEditor-20250130135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250130135700-ExclusiveEditor-20250130135600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130135700","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250130135700-ExclusiveEditor-20250130135600","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250130140400-ArionStar-20250130135700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250130135700-ExclusiveEditor-20250130135600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250130140400-ArionStar-20250130135700"></span>BTW: please, protect the articles before. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250130140400-ArionStar-20250130135700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250130140400-ArionStar-20250130135700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130140400","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250130140400-ArionStar-20250130135700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250130140400-ArionStar-20250130135700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yo.dazo-20250130140800-ArionStar-20250130134800"></span>This could be at least considered since the main story here is the death, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRDBLURB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRDBLURB">WP:ITNRDBLURB</a>. I'll also add that we should definitely blurb if this assassination triggers some widespread or heavy response—protests, political debate, etc. <a href="/wiki/User:Yo.dazo" title="User:Yo.dazo">Yo.dazo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yo.dazo" title="User talk:Yo.dazo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Yo.dazo-20250130140800-ArionStar-20250130134800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yo.dazo-20250130140800-ArionStar-20250130134800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130140800","author":"Yo.dazo","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Yo.dazo-20250130140800-ArionStar-20250130134800","replies":["c-BabbaQ-20250130141100-Yo.dazo-20250130140800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yo.dazo-20250130140800-ArionStar-20250130134800"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BabbaQ-20250130141100-Yo.dazo-20250130140800"></span>I also think a Blurb is appropriate.<a href="/wiki/User:BabbaQ" title="User:BabbaQ">BabbaQ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BabbaQ" title="User talk:BabbaQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BabbaQ-20250130141100-Yo.dazo-20250130140800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BabbaQ-20250130141100-Yo.dazo-20250130140800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130141100","author":"BabbaQ","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BabbaQ-20250130141100-Yo.dazo-20250130140800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BabbaQ-20250130141100-Yo.dazo-20250130140800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Prodrummer619-20250130175600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Support Blurb</b>: The manner of his death seems notable enough. He was an activist that gained a lot of media attention. <a href="/wiki/User:Prodrummer619" title="User:Prodrummer619">Prodrummer619</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Prodrummer619" title="User talk:Prodrummer619">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Prodrummer619-20250130175600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Prodrummer619-20250130175600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130175600","author":"Prodrummer619","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Prodrummer619-20250130175600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Prodrummer619-20250130175600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250130184900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Weak support blurb</b> Not entirely convinced of his higher-level fame, but definitely see the justification for “death as the main story” - a controversial figure assassinated on a livestream. I can be convinced to oppose, though. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250130184900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:49, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250130184900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130184900","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250130184900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250130184900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Harizotoh9-20250130192600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Support RD</b> - It's news but not international news on par with something like a major disaster or something. <a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harizotoh9" title="User talk:Harizotoh9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Harizotoh9-20250130192600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Harizotoh9-20250130192600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130192600","author":"Harizotoh9","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Harizotoh9-20250130192600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250130200100-Harizotoh9-20250130192600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Harizotoh9-20250130192600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250130200100-Harizotoh9-20250130192600"></span>Here in Brazil the largest newspapers reporting: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://oglobo.globo.com/google/amp/mundo/noticia/2025/01/30/iraquiano-que-queimou-copias-do-alcorao-e-morto-a-tiros-na-suecia-cinco-suspeitos-sao-presos.ghtml">[5]</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://g1.globo.com/google/amp/mundo/noticia/2025/01/30/homem-que-queimou-alcorao-na-suecia-e-morto-enquanto-fazia-live.ghtml">[6]</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/amp/mundo/2025/01/homem-iraquiano-que-queimou-copias-do-alcorao-e-morto-a-tiros-na-suecia.shtml">[7]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250130200100-Harizotoh9-20250130192600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250130200100-Harizotoh9-20250130192600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130200100","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250130200100-Harizotoh9-20250130192600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250130200100-Harizotoh9-20250130192600"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20250130200900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Weak support blurb</b> Article in good state. In terms of blurb, I'd support it (although I wouldn't die over it) since he was assassinated during a livestream on TikTok. How often do you hear of an assassination of a (albeit) known controversial figure happening during a TikTok livestream. A quick google search shows international obits/coverage of his death as well. --<a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20250130200900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20250130200900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130200900","author":"TDKR Chicago 101","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20250130200900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20250130200900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpectralIon-20250130201800-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Support RD, Strong Oppose Blurb</b> before this becomes another Gloria Moreno. He isn't notable enough to be blurbed. --<a href="/wiki/User:SpectralIon" title="User:SpectralIon">Spectral</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpectralIon" title="User talk:SpectralIon">Ion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SpectralIon-20250130201800-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpectralIon-20250130201800-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130201800","author":"SpectralIon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SpectralIon-20250130201800-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":["c-Yo.dazo-20250130204600-SpectralIon-20250130201800"],"displayName":"Spectral"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpectralIon-20250130201800-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yo.dazo-20250130204600-SpectralIon-20250130201800"></span>Well, let's be fair. As I mention above, the notability isn't of the person, but of the assassination itself. <a href="/wiki/User:Yo.dazo" title="User:Yo.dazo">Yo.dazo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yo.dazo" title="User talk:Yo.dazo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Yo.dazo-20250130204600-SpectralIon-20250130201800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yo.dazo-20250130204600-SpectralIon-20250130201800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130204600","author":"Yo.dazo","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Yo.dazo-20250130204600-SpectralIon-20250130201800","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250130205400-Yo.dazo-20250130204600","c-SpectralIon-20250131015100-Yo.dazo-20250130204600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yo.dazo-20250130204600-SpectralIon-20250130201800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250130205400-Yo.dazo-20250130204600"></span>"Another Gloria Moreno" 😂 <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250130205400-Yo.dazo-20250130204600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250130205400-Yo.dazo-20250130204600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130205400","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250130205400-Yo.dazo-20250130204600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250130205400-Yo.dazo-20250130204600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpectralIon-20250131015100-Yo.dazo-20250130204600"></span>I'm pretty new to ITN, but I don't think "Obscure Swedish activist around 90% of readers have never heard about dies by assassination while live streaming" would be any more blurbable than "Obscure Swedish activist around 90% of readers have never heard about dies by natural causes". <a href="/wiki/User:SpectralIon" title="User:SpectralIon">Spectral</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpectralIon" title="User talk:SpectralIon">Ion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SpectralIon-20250131015100-Yo.dazo-20250130204600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:51, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpectralIon-20250131015100-Yo.dazo-20250130204600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131015100","author":"SpectralIon","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-SpectralIon-20250131015100-Yo.dazo-20250130204600","replies":["c-BabbaQ-20250131122400-SpectralIon-20250131015100","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131122800-SpectralIon-20250131015100"],"displayName":"Spectral"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpectralIon-20250131015100-Yo.dazo-20250130204600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BabbaQ-20250131122400-SpectralIon-20250131015100"></span>To be fair, calling him obscure is more on you than actual facts. His death has generated attention from aol all around the world.<a href="/wiki/User:BabbaQ" title="User:BabbaQ">BabbaQ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BabbaQ" title="User talk:BabbaQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BabbaQ-20250131122400-SpectralIon-20250131015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BabbaQ-20250131122400-SpectralIon-20250131015100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131122400","author":"BabbaQ","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-BabbaQ-20250131122400-SpectralIon-20250131015100","replies":["c-SpectralIon-20250131190900-BabbaQ-20250131122400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BabbaQ-20250131122400-SpectralIon-20250131015100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpectralIon-20250131190900-BabbaQ-20250131122400"></span>Quran burnings in Scandinavia are pretty well known, but multiple activists performed them. Momika might have been the most important but it didn't lend him much personal fame. His death has given him attention, but he was grouped with other Quran burners before his death, and I find the proposal that it should be blurbed because he died while livestreaming instead of from other causes a bit absurd.</dd> <dd>(Also you're Swedish I think you might be overestimating international knowledge of him before his death a bit, no offense) <a href="/wiki/User:SpectralIon" title="User:SpectralIon">Spectral</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpectralIon" title="User talk:SpectralIon">Ion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SpectralIon-20250131190900-BabbaQ-20250131122400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpectralIon-20250131190900-BabbaQ-20250131122400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131190900","author":"SpectralIon","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-SpectralIon-20250131190900-BabbaQ-20250131122400","replies":[],"displayName":"Spectral"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpectralIon-20250131190900-BabbaQ-20250131122400"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131122800-SpectralIon-20250131015100"></span>Quran damaging in Europe, especially Sweden, has widely been reported in the world. However I am not sure about this man's specific case. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131122800-SpectralIon-20250131015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:28, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131122800-SpectralIon-20250131015100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131122800","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131122800-SpectralIon-20250131015100","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131122800-SpectralIon-20250131015100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yakikaki-20250130222300-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Support RD, Oppose Blurb</b> per SpectralIon. <a href="/wiki/User:Yakikaki" title="User:Yakikaki">Yakikaki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yakikaki" title="User talk:Yakikaki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Yakikaki-20250130222300-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yakikaki-20250130222300-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130222300","author":"Yakikaki","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yakikaki-20250130222300-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yakikaki-20250130222300-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BorgQueen-20250131015200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Posted RD</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:BorgQueen" title="User:BorgQueen">BorgQueen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorgQueen" title="User talk:BorgQueen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BorgQueen-20250131015200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:52, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BorgQueen-20250131015200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131015200","author":"BorgQueen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BorgQueen-20250131015200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BorgQueen-20250131015200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Murder_of_Salwan_Momika" class="mw-redirect" title="Murder of Salwan Momika"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BabbaQ-20250131101500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Murder of Salwan Momika</a> has been created with much more relevant information. Very likely Blurb worthy. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User:BabbaQ" title="User:BabbaQ">BabbaQ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BabbaQ" title="User talk:BabbaQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BabbaQ-20250131101500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:15, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BabbaQ-20250131101500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131101500","author":"BabbaQ","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BabbaQ-20250131101500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":["c-BabbaQ-20250131101500-BabbaQ-20250131101500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BabbaQ-20250131101500-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BabbaQ-20250131101500-BabbaQ-20250131101500"></span>I would definitely support a blurb for this article.<a href="/wiki/User:BabbaQ" title="User:BabbaQ">BabbaQ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BabbaQ" title="User talk:BabbaQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BabbaQ-20250131101500-BabbaQ-20250131101500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:15, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BabbaQ-20250131101500-BabbaQ-20250131101500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131101500","author":"BabbaQ","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BabbaQ-20250131101500-BabbaQ-20250131101500","replies":["c-Joseph2302-20250131143600-BabbaQ-20250131101500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BabbaQ-20250131101500-BabbaQ-20250131101500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joseph2302-20250131143600-BabbaQ-20250131101500"></span>I <b>oppose</b> blurring that article. It's a short article with a bloat from way too much in the reactions section. <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302"><b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302"><b style="color:#000000">2302</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20250131143600-BabbaQ-20250131101500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:36, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joseph2302-20250131143600-BabbaQ-20250131101500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131143600","author":"Joseph2302","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Joseph2302-20250131143600-BabbaQ-20250131101500","replies":[],"displayName":"Joseph"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joseph2302-20250131143600-BabbaQ-20250131101500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Varoon2542-20250131163900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span>Support Blurb</b> His quran burnings led to blasphemy laws in Denmark and protests from muslims the world over. Has been in the news in France for years and even more so now. He once said that his atheism and activism made him a lonely man, hope he later realised that many thought highly of him. His legacy will live on. <a href="/wiki/User:Varoon2542" title="User:Varoon2542">Varoon2542</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Varoon2542" title="User talk:Varoon2542">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Varoon2542-20250131163900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Varoon2542-20250131163900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131163900","author":"Varoon2542","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Varoon2542-20250131163900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250131231000-Varoon2542-20250131163900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Varoon2542-20250131163900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130115900"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250131231000-Varoon2542-20250131163900"></span>Support blurb</b> The death article is good enough. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250131231000-Varoon2542-20250131163900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250131231000-Varoon2542-20250131163900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131231000","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250131231000-Varoon2542-20250131163900","replies":["c-SpectralIon-20250201024400-ArionStar-20250131231000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250131231000-Varoon2542-20250131163900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpectralIon-20250201024400-ArionStar-20250131231000"></span>Didn't you already support blurb? <a href="/wiki/User:SpectralIon" title="User:SpectralIon">Spectral</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpectralIon" title="User talk:SpectralIon">Ion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SpectralIon-20250201024400-ArionStar-20250131231000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:44, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpectralIon-20250201024400-ArionStar-20250131231000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201024400","author":"SpectralIon","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-SpectralIon-20250201024400-ArionStar-20250131231000","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250201041500-SpectralIon-20250201024400"],"displayName":"Spectral"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpectralIon-20250201024400-ArionStar-20250131231000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250201041500-SpectralIon-20250201024400"></span>As RD, yes. I just wrote the blurb but not expressed the explicit support. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250201041500-SpectralIon-20250201024400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250201041500-SpectralIon-20250201024400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201041500","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250201041500-SpectralIon-20250201024400","replies":["c-SpectralIon-20250201192000-ArionStar-20250201041500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250201041500-SpectralIon-20250201024400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpectralIon-20250201192000-ArionStar-20250201041500"></span>Alright. <a href="/wiki/User:SpectralIon" title="User:SpectralIon">Spectral</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpectralIon" title="User talk:SpectralIon">Ion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SpectralIon-20250201192000-ArionStar-20250201041500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpectralIon-20250201192000-ArionStar-20250201041500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201192000","author":"SpectralIon","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-SpectralIon-20250201192000-ArionStar-20250201041500","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250201193600-SpectralIon-20250201192000"],"displayName":"Spectral"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpectralIon-20250201192000-ArionStar-20250201041500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250201193600-SpectralIon-20250201192000"></span>Ready? <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250201193600-SpectralIon-20250201192000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:36, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250201193600-SpectralIon-20250201192000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201193600","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250201193600-SpectralIon-20250201192000","replies":["c-SpectralIon-20250201231300-ArionStar-20250201193600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250201193600-SpectralIon-20250201192000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpectralIon-20250201231300-ArionStar-20250201193600"></span>Probably needs more attention when there are only 9 supports/opposes to the blurb and 3 of them are opposing. It’s <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTAVOTE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTAVOTE">WP:NOTAVOTE</a> but I haven’t seen a blurb posted with this few when it isn’t unanimous. <a href="/wiki/User:SpectralIon" title="User:SpectralIon">Spectral</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpectralIon" title="User talk:SpectralIon">Ion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SpectralIon-20250201231300-ArionStar-20250201193600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:13, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpectralIon-20250201231300-ArionStar-20250201193600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201231300","author":"SpectralIon","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-SpectralIon-20250201231300-ArionStar-20250201193600","replies":[],"displayName":"Spectral"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpectralIon-20250201231300-ArionStar-20250201193600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision-January_29-20250130031500"><span id=".28Posted.29_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Posted)_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision-January_29-20250130031500"></span>(Posted) American Airlines Flight 5342 mid-air collision<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Posted)_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision-January_29-20250130031500"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: (Posted) American Airlines Flight 5342 mid-air collision"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rockstone35-20250130031500-(Posted)_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 187px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:American_Eagle_CRJ-700_N709PS_at_Charlotte,_2022.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/American_Eagle_CRJ-700_N709PS_at_Charlotte%2C_2022.jpg/187px-American_Eagle_CRJ-700_N709PS_at_Charlotte%2C_2022.jpg" decoding="async" width="187" height="105" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/American_Eagle_CRJ-700_N709PS_at_Charlotte%2C_2022.jpg/281px-American_Eagle_CRJ-700_N709PS_at_Charlotte%2C_2022.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/American_Eagle_CRJ-700_N709PS_at_Charlotte%2C_2022.jpg/374px-American_Eagle_CRJ-700_N709PS_at_Charlotte%2C_2022.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1920" data-file-height="1080"/></a></span></div> </div><b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="2025_Potomac_River_mid-air_collision"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_2025_Potomac_River_mid-air_collision"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/2025_Potomac_River_mid-air_collision" title="2025 Potomac River mid-air collision">2025 Potomac River mid-air collision</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2025_Potomac_River_mid-air_collision" title="Talk:2025 Potomac River mid-air collision">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2025_Potomac_River_mid-air_collision&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2025_Potomac_River_mid-air_collision&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Potomac+River+mid-air+collision">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> <b><a href="/wiki/2025_Potomac_River_mid-air_collision" title="2025 Potomac River mid-air collision">American Airlines Flight 5342 crashes</a></b> on approach over the <a href="/wiki/Potomac_River" title="Potomac River">Potomac River</a>, Virginia, United States, killing an unknown number of passengers. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>Alternative blurb:</b> <i> <a href="/wiki/American_Eagle_(airline_brand)" title="American Eagle (airline brand)">American Eagle</a> Flight 5342 <b><a href="/wiki/2025_Potomac_River_mid-air_collision" title="2025 Potomac River mid-air collision">collides with a helicopter</a></b> over the <a href="/wiki/Potomac_River" title="Potomac River">Potomac River</a>, Virginia, United States, killing an unknown number of passengers on both aircraft. </i><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/plane-crash-dca-potomac-washington-dc-01-29-25/index.html">CNN</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/us/takeoffs-landings-halted-ronald-reagan-national-airport-after-aircraft-incident-2025-01-30/">Reuters</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c79d7y0l03po">BBC</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Rockstone35" title="User:Rockstone35">Rockstone35</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rockstone35" title="User talk:Rockstone35">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rockstone35&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2025+Potomac+River+mid-air+collision%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Potomac+River+mid-air+collision&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div></div><p>Nominator's comments: Unknown number of casualties, but it certainly appears that this will be a mass fatality incident, sadly. The first commercial plane crash on US soil since 2009. <a href="/wiki/User:Rockstone35" title="User:Rockstone35"><span style="color:#DF0101"><b>Rockstone</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rockstone35" title="User talk:Rockstone35"><span style="color:0000ff;font-size:15px"><sup><small><b>Send me a message!</b></small></sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rockstone35-20250130031500-(Posted)_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rockstone35-20250130031500-(Posted)_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130031500","author":"Rockstone35","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rockstone35-20250130031500-(Posted)_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision","replies":["c-The_Kip-20250130032100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Knowledgekid87-20250130033100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-JayCubby-20250130033500-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Jokullmusic-20250130033600-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-MtPenguinMonster-20250130033600-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-MaximumMangoCloset-20250130033900-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Bedivere-20250130034100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Tofusaurus-20250130034200-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-JayCubby-20250130034400-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-TheHuman630-20250130034500-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c--insert_valid_name_here--20250130034700-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Departure\u2013-20250130034800-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Knowledgekid87-20250130035100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-AP_499D25-20250130040600-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250130040300-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Interstatefive-20250130040600-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Wizzito-20250130041500-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Berchanhimez-20250130042000-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Nfitz-20250130042400-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-TNM101-20250130045400-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Masem-20250130051500-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-SchroCat-20250130052200-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Natg_19-20250130063100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Gotitbro-20250130091100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Fakescientist8000-20250130112300-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Black_Kite-20250130113100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-TNM101-20250130125900-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130160400-Rockstone35-20250130031500","c-Jessintime-20250130162300-Rockstone35-20250130031500"],"displayName":"Rockstone"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rockstone35-20250130031500-(Posted)_American_Airlines_Flight_5342_mid-air_collision"></span> </p><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250130032100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Wait</b> for details regarding victims/survivors/circumstances to become more clear, and for the article to update as such. An utterly horrifying day for my home - I was in the vicinity of DCA just a few hours ago. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250130032100-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250130032100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130032100","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250130032100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-The_Kip-20250130032400-The_Kip-20250130032100","c-JayCubby-20250130032500-The_Kip-20250130032100"],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250130032100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250130032400-The_Kip-20250130032100"></span>Added altblurb to clarify it was a collision. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250130032400-The_Kip-20250130032100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:24, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250130032400-The_Kip-20250130032100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130032400","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250130032400-The_Kip-20250130032100","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250130032400-The_Kip-20250130032100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayCubby-20250130032500-The_Kip-20250130032100"></span>It's awful to hear about this. Per <a href="/wiki/File:PSA_Airlines_flight_5342_crash.webm" title="File:PSA Airlines flight 5342 crash.webm">the video</a>, I doubt there will be many survivors.</dd> <dd>Side note: Rockstone, you beat me to ITN by a mere three minutes. Well done. <b><a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby"><span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayCubby" title="User talk:JayCubby"><span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JayCubby-20250130032500-The_Kip-20250130032100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:25, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayCubby-20250130032500-The_Kip-20250130032100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130032500","author":"JayCubby","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JayCubby-20250130032500-The_Kip-20250130032100","replies":[],"displayName":"Jay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayCubby-20250130032500-The_Kip-20250130032100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Knowledgekid87-20250130033100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Support</b>. Plane crashes involving 2 aircraft normally gain international coverage. - <a href="/wiki/User:Knowledgekid87" title="User:Knowledgekid87">Knowledgekid87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knowledgekid87" title="User talk:Knowledgekid87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Knowledgekid87-20250130033100-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Knowledgekid87-20250130033100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130033100","author":"Knowledgekid87","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Knowledgekid87-20250130033100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Knowledgekid87-20250130033100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayCubby-20250130033500-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Suppport</b> 70 people on the jet, doesn't look like there will be many survivors. First major plane crash in the US in decades. <b><a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby"><span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayCubby" title="User talk:JayCubby"><span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JayCubby-20250130033500-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:35, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayCubby-20250130033500-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130033500","author":"JayCubby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JayCubby-20250130033500-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-JayCubby-20250130034000-JayCubby-20250130033500"],"displayName":"Jay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayCubby-20250130033500-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayCubby-20250130034000-JayCubby-20250130033500"></span>I would of course support waiting an hour or three, until casualty figures come in <b><a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby"><span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayCubby" title="User talk:JayCubby"><span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JayCubby-20250130034000-JayCubby-20250130033500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:40, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayCubby-20250130034000-JayCubby-20250130033500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130034000","author":"JayCubby","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JayCubby-20250130034000-JayCubby-20250130033500","replies":[],"displayName":"Jay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayCubby-20250130034000-JayCubby-20250130033500"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jokullmusic-20250130033600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Support</b>. Even if everybody involved is somehow rescued, this is notable enough. The actual text of the blurb will need to be up-to-date when this goes in, of course. <a href="/wiki/User:Jokullmusic" title="User:Jokullmusic">Jokullmusic</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Jokullmusic-20250130033600-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jokullmusic-20250130033600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130033600","author":"Jokullmusic","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jokullmusic-20250130033600-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jokullmusic-20250130033600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MtPenguinMonster-20250130033600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Wait</b> for more details as per above. --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20250130033600-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MtPenguinMonster-20250130033600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130033600","author":"MtPenguinMonster","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MtPenguinMonster-20250130033600-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-Knowledgekid87-20250130033900-MtPenguinMonster-20250130033600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MtPenguinMonster-20250130033600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Knowledgekid87-20250130033900-MtPenguinMonster-20250130033600"></span>I appreciate to air on the side of caution, but new details are coming in every few minutes. This is being covered by global networks. - <a href="/wiki/User:Knowledgekid87" title="User:Knowledgekid87">Knowledgekid87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knowledgekid87" title="User talk:Knowledgekid87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Knowledgekid87-20250130033900-MtPenguinMonster-20250130033600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:39, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Knowledgekid87-20250130033900-MtPenguinMonster-20250130033600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:39, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MaximumMangoCloset-20250130033900-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130033900","author":"MaximumMangoCloset","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MaximumMangoCloset-20250130033900-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MaximumMangoCloset-20250130033900-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bedivere-20250130034100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Bedivere" title="User:Bedivere">Bedivere</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bedivere" title="User talk:Bedivere">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bedivere-20250130034100-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:41, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bedivere-20250130034100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130034100","author":"Bedivere","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bedivere-20250130034100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bedivere-20250130034100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tofusaurus-20250130034200-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Support</b>: This is obviously going to be a very notable incident regardless of the number of casualties. <a href="/wiki/User:Tofusaurus" title="User:Tofusaurus">Tofusaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tofusaurus" title="User talk:Tofusaurus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Tofusaurus-20250130034200-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tofusaurus-20250130034200-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/36px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></a></span><b> Comment:</b> Do we want <a href="/wiki/File:PSA_Airlines_flight_5342_crash.webm" title="File:PSA Airlines flight 5342 crash.webm">the CCTV</a> or the Flickr photo for the blurb image?<b><a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby"><span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayCubby" title="User talk:JayCubby"><span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JayCubby-20250130034400-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:44, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayCubby-20250130034400-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130034400","author":"JayCubby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JayCubby-20250130034400-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-AP_499D25-20250130040600-JayCubby-20250130034400"],"displayName":"Jay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayCubby-20250130034400-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AP_499D25-20250130040600-JayCubby-20250130034400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby">JayCubby</a>:</span> I'd say use the Flickr image. The CCTV video isn't quite clear especially from a distance, and as far as I'm aware, Wikipedia never puts videos or animated GIFs on the main page. — <a href="/wiki/User:AP_499D25" title="User:AP 499D25"><span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AP_499D25" title="User talk:AP 499D25"><span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AP_499D25-20250130040600-JayCubby-20250130034400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AP_499D25-20250130040600-JayCubby-20250130034400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130040600","author":"AP 499D25","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AP_499D25-20250130040600-JayCubby-20250130034400","replies":["c-Nfitz-20250130041500-AP_499D25-20250130040600","c-Stephen-20250130042000-AP_499D25-20250130040600"],"displayName":"AP\u00a0499D25"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AP_499D25-20250130040600-JayCubby-20250130034400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nfitz-20250130041500-AP_499D25-20250130040600"></span>I'm seeing a lack of copyright information on <b>File:PSA Airlines flight 5342 crash.webm</b>. Is it kocher? Though it seems to be in poor taste to show a video that actually shows the collision. Do we have rules about that? <a href="/wiki/User:Nfitz" title="User:Nfitz">Nfitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nfitz" title="User talk:Nfitz">talk</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:Nfitz" title="User:Nfitz">Nfitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nfitz" title="User talk:Nfitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nfitz-20250130041500-AP_499D25-20250130040600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nfitz-20250130041500-AP_499D25-20250130040600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130041500","author":"Nfitz","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nfitz-20250130041500-AP_499D25-20250130040600","replies":["c-JayCubby-20250130041900-Nfitz-20250130041500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nfitz-20250130041500-AP_499D25-20250130040600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayCubby-20250130041900-Nfitz-20250130041500"></span>Re 1, CCTV doesn't have human authorship and is therefore PD. It's past Shabbos, so even if it weren't kosher it doesn't so much matter. Re 2, it's not so graphic that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED_and_the_Main_Page" title="Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED and the Main Page">Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED and the Main Page</a> would need to be applied. <b><a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby"><span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayCubby" title="User talk:JayCubby"><span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JayCubby-20250130041900-Nfitz-20250130041500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:19, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayCubby-20250130041900-Nfitz-20250130041500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130041900","author":"JayCubby","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JayCubby-20250130041900-Nfitz-20250130041500","replies":["c-Nfitz-20250130075900-JayCubby-20250130041900"],"displayName":"Jay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayCubby-20250130041900-Nfitz-20250130041500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nfitz-20250130075900-JayCubby-20250130041900"></span>Whether a TV signal is closed-circuit or not shouldn't have any bearing on copyright. If you are referring to an automated surveillance camera ... I'd have thought that would have been whose and where was it that might define that. For example, in some places, government can't hold copyright - but in others they strictly enforce their copyright. But companies and governments aren't human, and they can hold copyright, with their publications not being public domain. Still, it seem moot now - but I'm fascinated by the copyright question that's raised from it. <a href="/wiki/User:Nfitz" title="User:Nfitz">Nfitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nfitz" title="User talk:Nfitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nfitz-20250130075900-JayCubby-20250130041900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:59, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nfitz-20250130075900-JayCubby-20250130041900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130075900","author":"Nfitz","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Nfitz-20250130075900-JayCubby-20250130041900","replies":["c-Berchanhimez-20250130080300-Nfitz-20250130075900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nfitz-20250130075900-JayCubby-20250130041900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Berchanhimez-20250130080300-Nfitz-20250130075900"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Threshold_of_originality#Pre-positioned_recording_devices" title="Threshold of originality">Threshold_of_originality#Pre-positioned_recording_devices</a>. CCTV and other similar devices' footage is ineligible for copyright in the US and in virtually all countries. The closest it comes is whether there is judgement in how it's placed, but even that's iffy because it's not placed to capture anything specific but just a specific area. For the record, Commons also accepts this as public domain per <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-automated" class="extiw" title="commons:Template:PD-automated">commons:Template:PD-automated</a>. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | <a href="/wiki/User:Berchanhimez" title="User:Berchanhimez">me</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Berchanhimez" title="User talk:Berchanhimez">talk to me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Berchanhimez-20250130080300-Nfitz-20250130075900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:03, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Berchanhimez-20250130080300-Nfitz-20250130075900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130080300","author":"Berchanhimez","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Berchanhimez-20250130080300-Nfitz-20250130075900","replies":[],"displayName":"me"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Berchanhimez-20250130080300-Nfitz-20250130075900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250130042000-AP_499D25-20250130040600"></span>Nonsense, videos and gifs are often shown, but the CCTV quality is too poor. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250130042000-AP_499D25-20250130040600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:20, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250130042000-AP_499D25-20250130040600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130042000","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Stephen-20250130042000-AP_499D25-20250130040600","replies":["c-JayCubby-20250130044200-Stephen-20250130042000"],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20250130042000-AP_499D25-20250130040600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayCubby-20250130044200-Stephen-20250130042000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Stephen</a>, I found a better-res file, re-uploaded. Thoughts? <b><a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby"><span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayCubby" title="User talk:JayCubby"><span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JayCubby-20250130044200-Stephen-20250130042000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayCubby-20250130044200-Stephen-20250130042000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130044200","author":"JayCubby","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JayCubby-20250130044200-Stephen-20250130042000","replies":[],"displayName":"Jay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayCubby-20250130044200-Stephen-20250130042000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHuman630-20250130034500-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Support</b> - As per above. <a href="/wiki/User:TheHuman630" title="User:TheHuman630">TheHuman630</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheHuman630" title="User talk:TheHuman630">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheHuman630-20250130034500-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHuman630-20250130034500-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130034500","author":"TheHuman630","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TheHuman630-20250130034500-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHuman630-20250130034500-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c--insert_valid_name_here--20250130034700-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Support altblurb 2.</b> Mid-air collisions involving commercial aircraft are rare and notable. <a href="/wiki/User:-insert_valid_name_here-" title="User:-insert valid name here-">-insert valid name here-</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:-insert_valid_name_here-" title="User talk:-insert valid name here-">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c--insert_valid_name_here--20250130034700-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c--insert_valid_name_here--20250130034700-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130034700","author":"-insert valid name here-","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c--insert_valid_name_here--20250130034700-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c--insert_valid_name_here--20250130034700-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span></dd> <dd><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Departure–-20250130034800-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>I'd say wait, knowing damn well all onboard died here.</s> Write that down as a <b>support</b> vote once the obvious is confirmed. I definitely support using the CCTV footage in the blurb - <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CENSORED" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CENSORED">Wikipedia is not censored</a> and a short video showing the event going down is much more relevant than an image of the plane involved. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20250130034800-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:48, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Departure–-20250130034800-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130034800","author":"Departure\u2013","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Departure\u2013-20250130034800-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-JayCubby-20250130035200-Departure\u2013-20250130034800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Departure–-20250130034800-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayCubby-20250130035200-Departure–-20250130034800"></span>It's admittedly grainy (but not as bad as when the screen of a monitor is filmed by someone with Parkinson's), but does the job. <b><a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby"><span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayCubby" title="User talk:JayCubby"><span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JayCubby-20250130035200-Departure–-20250130034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:52, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayCubby-20250130035200-Departure–-20250130034800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130035200","author":"JayCubby","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JayCubby-20250130035200-Departure\u2013-20250130034800","replies":[],"displayName":"Jay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayCubby-20250130035200-Departure–-20250130034800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Knowledgekid87-20250130035100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Comment</b> Bodies are veing pulled from the river. <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/01/29/aircraft-crash-potomac/#link-MF275KJW5VCZHC7MC2VB5PMUKY">[8]</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Knowledgekid87" title="User:Knowledgekid87">Knowledgekid87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knowledgekid87" title="User talk:Knowledgekid87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Knowledgekid87-20250130035100-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:51, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Knowledgekid87-20250130035100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130035100","author":"Knowledgekid87","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Knowledgekid87-20250130035100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-Departure\u2013-20250130035300-Knowledgekid87-20250130035100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Knowledgekid87-20250130035100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Departure–-20250130035300-Knowledgekid87-20250130035100"></span>Awful graphic. Someone strike out my bolded wait vote and bold my support above. <s>What a House member from Kansas has to do with this to be commenting here I don't know.</s> <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20250130035300-Knowledgekid87-20250130035100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:53, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Departure–-20250130035300-Knowledgekid87-20250130035100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130035300","author":"Departure\u2013","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Departure\u2013-20250130035300-Knowledgekid87-20250130035100","replies":["c-JayCubby-20250130035500-Departure\u2013-20250130035300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Departure–-20250130035300-Knowledgekid87-20250130035100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayCubby-20250130035500-Departure–-20250130035300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a>, the plane originated from Wichita. <b><a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby"><span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayCubby" title="User talk:JayCubby"><span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JayCubby-20250130035500-Departure–-20250130035300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:55, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayCubby-20250130035500-Departure–-20250130035300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130035500","author":"JayCubby","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JayCubby-20250130035500-Departure\u2013-20250130035300","replies":[],"displayName":"Jay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayCubby-20250130035500-Departure–-20250130035300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AP_499D25-20250130040600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Wait</b> for data on actual number of survivors and deaths to emerge, and then add. — <a href="/wiki/User:AP_499D25" title="User:AP 499D25"><span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AP_499D25" title="User talk:AP 499D25"><span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AP_499D25-20250130040600-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AP_499D25-20250130040600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130040600","author":"AP 499D25","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AP_499D25-20250130040600-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-AP_499D25-20250130041100-AP_499D25-20250130040600"],"displayName":"AP\u00a0499D25"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AP_499D25-20250130040600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AP_499D25-20250130041100-AP_499D25-20250130040600"></span>(Bit surprised I didn't edit conflict with the votes below when I published this.) Anyway, it looks like the consensus here is generally in favour of adding it <i>now</i> rather than waiting, so if I were to pick a blurb, I'd go with the second one. The first blurb does not take into account that two aircraft are directly involved and not one. It is a mid-air collision after all and not a crash. — <a href="/wiki/User:AP_499D25" title="User:AP 499D25"><span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AP_499D25" title="User talk:AP 499D25"><span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AP_499D25-20250130041100-AP_499D25-20250130040600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AP_499D25-20250130041100-AP_499D25-20250130040600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130041100","author":"AP 499D25","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AP_499D25-20250130041100-AP_499D25-20250130040600","replies":[],"displayName":"AP\u00a0499D25"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AP_499D25-20250130041100-AP_499D25-20250130040600"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250130040300-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Support -</b> Just wow <a href="/wiki/User:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User:SimpleSubCubicGraph">SimpleSubCubicGraph</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250130040300-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:03, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250130040300-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130040300","author":"SimpleSubCubicGraph","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250130040300-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250130040300-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Interstatefive-20250130040600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Support</b> - although maybe wait a little bit until we get more info on deaths and such. This is the first major aviation incident in the US in 16 years, meaning that this accident will likely be extremely notable in the future. Definitely warrants being on ITN. <span style="background:#000dff; padding:2px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Interstatefive" title="User:Interstatefive"><span style="color:white;">interstate</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Interstatefive" title="User talk:Interstatefive"><span style="color:white;">five</span></a></b> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Interstatefive-20250130040600-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Interstatefive-20250130040600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130040600","author":"Interstatefive","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Interstatefive-20250130040600-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-Nfitz-20250130041900-Interstatefive-20250130040600"],"displayName":"interstate"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Interstatefive-20250130040600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nfitz-20250130041900-Interstatefive-20250130040600"></span>Mid-air collision ... it's not been confirmed it's an accident. And the video linked above of the collision doesn't look like an accident - I don't see how the helicopter didn't see that plane coming. How do you fly into the side of well lit plane? <a href="/wiki/User:Nfitz" title="User:Nfitz">Nfitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nfitz" title="User talk:Nfitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nfitz-20250130041900-Interstatefive-20250130040600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:19, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nfitz-20250130041900-Interstatefive-20250130040600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130041900","author":"Nfitz","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nfitz-20250130041900-Interstatefive-20250130040600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nfitz-20250130041900-Interstatefive-20250130040600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Posted</b> Prayers... -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130041100","author":"Ad Orientem","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-JayCubby-20250130041300-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100","c-Dmartin969-20250131020600-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayCubby-20250130041300-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100"></span>Thanks AO. This'll be the fastest I've seen an ITN get posted. <b><a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby"><span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayCubby" title="User talk:JayCubby"><span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JayCubby-20250130041300-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:13, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayCubby-20250130041300-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130041300","author":"JayCubby","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JayCubby-20250130041300-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100","replies":["c-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600-JayCubby-20250130041300"],"displayName":"Jay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayCubby-20250130041300-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600-JayCubby-20250130041300"></span>Normally I'd not post something so quickly, but this one is a no brainer. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600-JayCubby-20250130041300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:16, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600-JayCubby-20250130041300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130041600","author":"Ad Orientem","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600-JayCubby-20250130041300","replies":["c-The_Kip-20250130051800-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130105000-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600-JayCubby-20250130041300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250130051800-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> CBS News has confirmed 18 bodies have been recovered, so if you'd like to replace the slightly-awkward "unknown number of people bit," there's a number. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250130051800-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250130051800-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130051800","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250130051800-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600","replies":["c-Ad_Orientem-20250130053200-The_Kip-20250130051800"],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250130051800-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130053200-The_Kip-20250130051800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The Kip</a> That is not (as of this comment) reflected in the article. I don't think the blurb should be getting ahead of the article. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20250130053200-The_Kip-20250130051800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:32, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130053200-The_Kip-20250130051800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130053200","author":"Ad Orientem","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Ad_Orientem-20250130053200-The_Kip-20250130051800","replies":["c-The_Kip-20250130053400-Ad_Orientem-20250130053200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130053200-The_Kip-20250130051800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250130053400-Ad_Orientem-20250130053200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> <a href="/wiki/2025_Potomac_River_mid-air_collision#Casualties" title="2025 Potomac River mid-air collision">2025 Potomac River mid-air collision#Casualties</a> <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250130053400-Ad_Orientem-20250130053200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:34, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250130053400-Ad_Orientem-20250130053200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130053400","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250130053400-Ad_Orientem-20250130053200","replies":["c-Ad_Orientem-20250130054700-The_Kip-20250130053400"],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250130053400-Ad_Orientem-20250130053200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130054700-The_Kip-20250130053400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The Kip</a> I'm not comfortable posting a death number until an official source confirms it or we have multiple high quality sources all reporting the same thing. I think we need to tread carefully on this. The info box on the article is still not reporting definite fatalities. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20250130054700-The_Kip-20250130053400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130054700-The_Kip-20250130053400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130054700","author":"Ad Orientem","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Ad_Orientem-20250130054700-The_Kip-20250130053400","replies":["c-Ad_Orientem-20250130055100-Ad_Orientem-20250130054700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130054700-The_Kip-20250130053400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130055100-Ad_Orientem-20250130054700"></span>I've now updated the blurb to reflect the current info box number. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20250130055100-Ad_Orientem-20250130054700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:51, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130055100-Ad_Orientem-20250130054700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130055100","author":"Ad Orientem","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Ad_Orientem-20250130055100-Ad_Orientem-20250130054700","replies":["c-TNM101-20250130055600-Ad_Orientem-20250130055100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ad_Orientem-20250130055100-Ad_Orientem-20250130054700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TNM101-20250130055600-Ad_Orientem-20250130055100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> Shouldn't it be 'people' instead of 'persons'? <b><a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101"><span style="color:red;">TNM</span><span style="color:black;">101</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101"><span style="color:blue;">chat</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TNM101-20250130055600-Ad_Orientem-20250130055100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TNM101-20250130055600-Ad_Orientem-20250130055100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130055600","author":"TNM101","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-TNM101-20250130055600-Ad_Orientem-20250130055100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TNM101-20250130055600-Ad_Orientem-20250130055100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130105000-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600"></span>Disagree it was a 'no brainer'. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130105000-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130105000-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130105000","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130105000-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130105000-Ad_Orientem-20250130041600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dmartin969-20250131020600-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a>:</span>Is there a reason that the Syrian president is listed above this one when this is more recent? <a href="/wiki/User:Dmartin969" title="User:Dmartin969">–DMartin</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Dmartin969-20250131020600-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:06, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dmartin969-20250131020600-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131020600","author":"Dmartin969","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dmartin969-20250131020600-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131102000-Dmartin969-20250131020600"],"displayName":"\u2013DMartin"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dmartin969-20250131020600-Ad_Orientem-20250130041100"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131102000-Dmartin969-20250131020600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Dmartin969" title="User:Dmartin969">Dmartin969</a>:</span> This was posted earlier, on 30 Jan, other one was posted later on 31 Jan. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131102000-Dmartin969-20250131020600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:20, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131102000-Dmartin969-20250131020600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131102000","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131102000-Dmartin969-20250131020600","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131102000-Dmartin969-20250131020600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wizzito-20250130041500-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Comment</b> How are we determining that anyone was killed at all? We know passenger and crew numbers but not who is deceased, injured, survived etc. That just seems a bit premature. <a href="/wiki/User:Wizzito" title="User:Wizzito"><span class="tmpl-colored-link" style="color: hotpink; text-decoration: inherit;">wizzito</span></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wizzito" title="User talk:Wizzito"><span class="tmpl-colored-link" style="color: navyc; text-decoration: inherit;">say hello!</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Wizzito-20250130041500-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wizzito-20250130041500-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130041500","author":"Wizzito","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wizzito-20250130041500-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-JayCubby-20250130042000-Wizzito-20250130041500","c-Jokullmusic-20250130042100-Wizzito-20250130041500","c-Wizzito-20250130044100-Wizzito-20250130041500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wizzito-20250130041500-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayCubby-20250130042000-Wizzito-20250130041500"></span>WaPo said bodies were being pulled from the water. I also conducted original research, and the crash doesn't look very survivable. <b><a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby"><span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayCubby" title="User talk:JayCubby"><span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JayCubby-20250130042000-Wizzito-20250130041500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:20, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayCubby-20250130042000-Wizzito-20250130041500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130042000","author":"JayCubby","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JayCubby-20250130042000-Wizzito-20250130041500","replies":["c-Wizzito-20250130042100-JayCubby-20250130042000"],"displayName":"Jay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayCubby-20250130042000-Wizzito-20250130041500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wizzito-20250130042100-JayCubby-20250130042000"></span>I am aware about those reports. Jay Cubby, please note our policies on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">original research</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Wizzito" title="User:Wizzito"><span class="tmpl-colored-link" style="color: hotpink; text-decoration: inherit;">wizzito</span></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wizzito" title="User talk:Wizzito"><span class="tmpl-colored-link" style="color: navyc; text-decoration: inherit;">say hello!</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Wizzito-20250130042100-JayCubby-20250130042000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wizzito-20250130042100-JayCubby-20250130042000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130042100","author":"Wizzito","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Wizzito-20250130042100-JayCubby-20250130042000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wizzito-20250130042100-JayCubby-20250130042000"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jokullmusic-20250130042100-Wizzito-20250130041500"></span>Washington Post reported that dead bodies have been pulled from the river; others have reported that there have been no attempts to rescue anyone from the helicopter. <a href="/wiki/User:Jokullmusic" title="User:Jokullmusic">Jokullmusic</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Jokullmusic-20250130042100-Wizzito-20250130041500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jokullmusic-20250130042100-Wizzito-20250130041500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130042100","author":"Jokullmusic","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jokullmusic-20250130042100-Wizzito-20250130041500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jokullmusic-20250130042100-Wizzito-20250130041500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wizzito-20250130044100-Wizzito-20250130041500"></span>Moot now, as CNN reports casualties. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/plane-crash-dca-potomac-washington-dc-01-29-25#cm6iu5gue000i3b6matt7wqeo">https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/plane-crash-dca-potomac-washington-dc-01-29-25#cm6iu5gue000i3b6matt7wqeo</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Wizzito" title="User:Wizzito"><span class="tmpl-colored-link" style="color: hotpink; text-decoration: inherit;">wizzito</span></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wizzito" title="User talk:Wizzito"><span class="tmpl-colored-link" style="color: navyc; text-decoration: inherit;">say hello!</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Wizzito-20250130044100-Wizzito-20250130041500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:41, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wizzito-20250130044100-Wizzito-20250130041500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130044100","author":"Wizzito","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Wizzito-20250130044100-Wizzito-20250130041500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wizzito-20250130044100-Wizzito-20250130041500"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Berchanhimez-20250130042000-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Support, but change to altblurb</b> since it was clearly a mid air collision (video proof). Undecided on statement about casualties unknown... it's almost certain there are some, because a plane breaking up in mid air and falling into a river is just.. not something that's likely to be survived from. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | <a href="/wiki/User:Berchanhimez" title="User:Berchanhimez">me</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Berchanhimez" title="User talk:Berchanhimez">talk to me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Berchanhimez-20250130042000-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:20, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Berchanhimez-20250130042000-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130042000","author":"Berchanhimez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Berchanhimez-20250130042000-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-Wizzito-20250130042100-Berchanhimez-20250130042000","c-AP_499D25-20250130044600-Berchanhimez-20250130042000"],"displayName":"me"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Berchanhimez-20250130042000-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wizzito-20250130042100-Berchanhimez-20250130042000"></span>True, but in a sensitive situation like this, it is best to wait for very explicit RS. <a href="/wiki/User:Wizzito" title="User:Wizzito"><span class="tmpl-colored-link" style="color: hotpink; text-decoration: inherit;">wizzito</span></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wizzito" title="User talk:Wizzito"><span class="tmpl-colored-link" style="color: navyc; text-decoration: inherit;">say hello!</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Wizzito-20250130042100-Berchanhimez-20250130042000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wizzito-20250130042100-Berchanhimez-20250130042000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130042100","author":"Wizzito","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Wizzito-20250130042100-Berchanhimez-20250130042000","replies":["c-Berchanhimez-20250130043100-Wizzito-20250130042100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wizzito-20250130042100-Berchanhimez-20250130042000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Berchanhimez-20250130043100-Wizzito-20250130042100"></span>Hence why I'm undecided. I would be fine with a blurb that simply states that the crash occurred and specifies that it was a mid-air collision. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | <a href="/wiki/User:Berchanhimez" title="User:Berchanhimez">me</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Berchanhimez" title="User talk:Berchanhimez">talk to me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Berchanhimez-20250130043100-Wizzito-20250130042100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Berchanhimez-20250130043100-Wizzito-20250130042100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130043100","author":"Berchanhimez","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Berchanhimez-20250130043100-Wizzito-20250130042100","replies":[],"displayName":"me"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Berchanhimez-20250130043100-Wizzito-20250130042100"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AP_499D25-20250130044600-Berchanhimez-20250130042000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Berchanhimez" title="User:Berchanhimez">Berchanhimez</a>:</span> FYI, the alt blurb is already what's been used in the ITN publication. — <a href="/wiki/User:AP_499D25" title="User:AP 499D25"><span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AP_499D25" title="User talk:AP 499D25"><span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AP_499D25-20250130044600-Berchanhimez-20250130042000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AP_499D25-20250130044600-Berchanhimez-20250130042000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130044600","author":"AP 499D25","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AP_499D25-20250130044600-Berchanhimez-20250130042000","replies":[],"displayName":"AP\u00a0499D25"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AP_499D25-20250130044600-Berchanhimez-20250130042000"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><s><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nfitz-20250130042400-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Wait</b></s> until there's more clarity over the death toll, and perhaps the intentions of the helicopter pilot. Alt blurb - but should mention that it was a military transport helicopter. <a href="/wiki/User:Nfitz" title="User:Nfitz">Nfitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nfitz" title="User talk:Nfitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nfitz-20250130042400-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:24, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nfitz-20250130042400-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130042400","author":"Nfitz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nfitz-20250130042400-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-Nfitz-20250130080500-Nfitz-20250130042400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nfitz-20250130042400-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nfitz-20250130080500-Nfitz-20250130042400"></span>At the press conference, 4 hours later, they couldn't identify any survivors. And it's been reported that helicopter was on a training flight - so that might explain what the helicopter pilot was doing. (at the same time, this seemed to have been posted too fast). <a href="/wiki/User:Nfitz" title="User:Nfitz">Nfitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nfitz" title="User talk:Nfitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nfitz-20250130080500-Nfitz-20250130042400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nfitz-20250130080500-Nfitz-20250130042400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130080500","author":"Nfitz","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nfitz-20250130080500-Nfitz-20250130042400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nfitz-20250130080500-Nfitz-20250130042400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TNM101-20250130045400-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Pull and Wait</b> There are usually so many opposes about having the clarity on the death toll in other noms, this shouldn't be any different. If we're not going to pull this, at least remove the 'unknown number of people' part from the blurb until we have more info <b><a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101"><span style="color:red;">TNM</span><span style="color:black;">101</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101"><span style="color:blue;">chat</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TNM101-20250130045400-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:54, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TNM101-20250130045400-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130045400","author":"TNM101","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TNM101-20250130045400-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-AP_499D25-20250130050100-TNM101-20250130045400","c-Sportsnut24-20250130170600-TNM101-20250130045400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TNM101-20250130045400-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AP_499D25-20250130050100-TNM101-20250130045400"></span>I don't think it'll be long before we get a RS on actual number of casualties though. — <a href="/wiki/User:AP_499D25" title="User:AP 499D25"><span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP 499D25</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AP_499D25" title="User talk:AP 499D25"><span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AP_499D25-20250130050100-TNM101-20250130045400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:01, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AP_499D25-20250130050100-TNM101-20250130045400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130050100","author":"AP 499D25","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AP_499D25-20250130050100-TNM101-20250130045400","replies":[],"displayName":"AP\u00a0499D25"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AP_499D25-20250130050100-TNM101-20250130045400"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sportsnut24-20250130170600-TNM101-20250130045400"></span>It was pre-maturely posted for sure, but at this point is doesn't matter. There arenot survivors, so 63 deaths is notable neough.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sportsnut24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sportsnut24 (page does not exist)">Sportsnut24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sportsnut24" title="User talk:Sportsnut24">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Sportsnut24-20250130170600-TNM101-20250130045400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sportsnut24-20250130170600-TNM101-20250130045400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130170600","author":"Sportsnut24","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sportsnut24-20250130170600-TNM101-20250130045400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sportsnut24-20250130170600-TNM101-20250130045400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250130051500-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Comment</b> There is <i>never</i> a need to rush an ITN blurb to post when there is key information missing - we are <b>not</b> a news ticker. This should not have been posted as soon as it was until we had an idea of the number of fatalities. Obviously once that is known, then there's not an issue with it, so it doesn't make sense to pull when it will be put back, but please let us not be rushing on posting events without the normal thoroughness we expect for details of other blurbs. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250130051500-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250130051500-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130051500","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Masem-20250130051500-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-Berchanhimez-20250130073000-Masem-20250130051500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250130051500-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Berchanhimez-20250130073000-Masem-20250130051500"></span>Would this be ITN if there were no deaths? I would still think so - a mid-air collision of two aircraft (whether fixed wing or otherwise) is so rare nowadays that it <i>happening</i> is the newsworthy event. I agree that it was not necessary to include "unknown casualties" at the time of posting. But the fatalities could be updated as information comes in, like with any other ITN blurb. I don't see why waiting to confirm someone died was necessary when this would've been (and is) newsworthy on its own for being such a rare occurrence, regardless of the deaths. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | <a href="/wiki/User:Berchanhimez" title="User:Berchanhimez">me</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Berchanhimez" title="User talk:Berchanhimez">talk to me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Berchanhimez-20250130073000-Masem-20250130051500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:30, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Berchanhimez-20250130073000-Masem-20250130051500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130073000","author":"Berchanhimez","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Berchanhimez-20250130073000-Masem-20250130051500","replies":["c-Masem-20250130130800-Berchanhimez-20250130073000"],"displayName":"me"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Berchanhimez-20250130073000-Masem-20250130051500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250130130800-Berchanhimez-20250130073000"></span>Because ITN is about featuring quality articles that happen to be in the news, not to report news as it happens. Unless there was already an established article, it takes some reasonable time for a quality article to be built up, and that includes waiting for the bulk of the details from actual news reports to roll in and have a substantial how-and-why about the event, during which the article would be undergoing a lot of editing so its near impossible to judge quality. There's no way in the hour this was posted that enough details were known to have a stable, quality article. At this time (now about 12 hrs out), there's more than enough that we have a reasonably good article that while likely still will have high rates of editing, has all the core details that would be expected to showcase it as a quality article and would be more resilient to new edits.<span id="Masem:1738242539250:WikipediaFTTCLNIn_the_news/Candidates" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250130130800-Berchanhimez-20250130073000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250130130800-Berchanhimez-20250130073000"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250130130800-Berchanhimez-20250130073000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130130800","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Masem-20250130130800-Berchanhimez-20250130073000","replies":[]}}--></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SchroCat-20250130052200-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Comment</b> Posted after less than an hour and with most key information missing? This isn’t a news ticker and there is no rush to post something just because it’s happened in the US. - <a href="/wiki/User:SchroCat" title="User:SchroCat">SchroCat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SchroCat" title="User talk:SchroCat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SchroCat-20250130052200-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:22, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SchroCat-20250130052200-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130052200","author":"SchroCat","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SchroCat-20250130052200-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-JayCubby-20250130052700-SchroCat-20250130052200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SchroCat-20250130052200-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayCubby-20250130052700-SchroCat-20250130052200"></span>What was posted is not liable to be wrong, and it's a <b>really</b> significant event. The rush is not because it's American, but because it's a plane crash that may very well have killed 75. <b><a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby"><span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayCubby" title="User talk:JayCubby"><span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JayCubby-20250130052700-SchroCat-20250130052200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:27, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayCubby-20250130052700-SchroCat-20250130052200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130052700","author":"JayCubby","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JayCubby-20250130052700-SchroCat-20250130052200","replies":["c-Masem-20250130053100-JayCubby-20250130052700","c-SchroCat-20250130053500-JayCubby-20250130052700"],"displayName":"Jay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayCubby-20250130052700-SchroCat-20250130052200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250130053100-JayCubby-20250130052700"></span>But, key is that WP nor ITN is a newspaper. ITN is here to feature quality articles that are in the news. Aircrashes like this are the type of article that routine has a high quality product after some time as details filter in, so its common to post them, but this was posted before any confirmed number of deaths or survivors, a key data point, was known, so for all purposes, the article was not yet at the quality we'd expect. In under 12 hrs from the event, I would expect those to have settled into place, and then it would make sense to have judged the quality of the article and post then. Posting without that key info was a bad decision, though because we know the details will be added, not a reason to pull at this point. Just something to not repeat. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250130053100-JayCubby-20250130052700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250130053100-JayCubby-20250130052700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130053100","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Masem-20250130053100-JayCubby-20250130052700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250130053100-JayCubby-20250130052700"></span></dd> <dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SchroCat-20250130053500-JayCubby-20250130052700"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>)</small> Nonsense. I’ve seen bigger disasters and events happen in places like Africa and not passed at ITN. The geography is a damned clear metric when posting way too quickly on this. As to ‘not liable to be wrong’: that’s phooey. It’s incomplete which with anywhere else in the world would receive calls to wait before posting. ITN IS NOT A NEWS TICKER. - <a href="/wiki/User:SchroCat" title="User:SchroCat">SchroCat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SchroCat" title="User talk:SchroCat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SchroCat-20250130053500-JayCubby-20250130052700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:35, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SchroCat-20250130053500-JayCubby-20250130052700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130053500","author":"SchroCat","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-SchroCat-20250130053500-JayCubby-20250130052700","replies":["c-JayCubby-20250130053900-SchroCat-20250130053500","c-Berchanhimez-20250130073300-SchroCat-20250130053500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SchroCat-20250130053500-JayCubby-20250130052700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayCubby-20250130053900-SchroCat-20250130053500"></span>Is it the geography that determines how quickly it's promoted, the availability of sources, or the relative interest of editors? I do think it's hastier than most, but not to the point of being faulty.</dd> <dd>Though I think we may have posted it before it made its way to the NYT's top spot. We're not a news ticker, we're faster than one. <b><a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby"><span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayCubby" title="User talk:JayCubby"><span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JayCubby-20250130053900-SchroCat-20250130053500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:39, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayCubby-20250130053900-SchroCat-20250130053500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130053900","author":"JayCubby","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-JayCubby-20250130053900-SchroCat-20250130053500","replies":["c-SchroCat-20250130054400-JayCubby-20250130053900","c-Gotitbro-20250130101000-JayCubby-20250130053900"],"displayName":"Jay"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayCubby-20250130053900-SchroCat-20250130053500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SchroCat-20250130054400-JayCubby-20250130053900"></span>Faster than a news ticker? That’s such a ridiculous boast: do you have any idea what an encyclopaedia is? It’s about as far away from a news ticker as you can imagine. - <a href="/wiki/User:SchroCat" title="User:SchroCat">SchroCat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SchroCat" title="User talk:SchroCat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SchroCat-20250130054400-JayCubby-20250130053900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:44, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SchroCat-20250130054400-JayCubby-20250130053900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130054400","author":"SchroCat","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-SchroCat-20250130054400-JayCubby-20250130053900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SchroCat-20250130054400-JayCubby-20250130053900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gotitbro-20250130101000-JayCubby-20250130053900"></span>Would do you better to read the fundamental <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTNEWS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTNEWS">WP:NOTNEWS</a> policy. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20250130101000-JayCubby-20250130053900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:10, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gotitbro-20250130101000-JayCubby-20250130053900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130101000","author":"Gotitbro","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Gotitbro-20250130101000-JayCubby-20250130053900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gotitbro-20250130101000-JayCubby-20250130053900"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Berchanhimez-20250130073300-SchroCat-20250130053500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:SchroCat" title="User:SchroCat">SchroCat</a>:</span> This isn't ITN-worthy just because people died. It's also ITN-worthy as a mid-air collision between two aircraft - which is exceedingly rare. Even if by some miracle everyone survived, it would still be ITN-worthy. For clarity, I would've supported posting as soon as the article on the event was minimally complete (i.e. what happened and what is known at the time). There is no need to wait for the article to be complete, because it never will be. Arbitrary "gates" such as "wait for confirmation someone died" may be reasonable for an event that would not otherwise be ITN-worthy. But for an event like this that is ITN-worthy regardless of deaths, there is no use waiting. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | <a href="/wiki/User:Berchanhimez" title="User:Berchanhimez">me</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Berchanhimez" title="User talk:Berchanhimez">talk to me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Berchanhimez-20250130073300-SchroCat-20250130053500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:33, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Berchanhimez-20250130073300-SchroCat-20250130053500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130073300","author":"Berchanhimez","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Berchanhimez-20250130073300-SchroCat-20250130053500","replies":["c-SchroCat-20250130073700-Berchanhimez-20250130073300"],"displayName":"me"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Berchanhimez-20250130073300-SchroCat-20250130053500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SchroCat-20250130073700-Berchanhimez-20250130073300"></span>Where did I mention "just because people died"? There is significant information missing and this has been fast-posted (less than an hour). I get it's only newsworthy because it happened in the US, but this was posted too quickly when not enough details were known. As to mid-air collisions being "extremely rare", they're <a href="/wiki/List_of_mid-air_collisions" title="List of mid-air collisions">not all that rare</a>, although they may be uncommon. Just noting that neither the <a href="/wiki/2024_Lumut_mid-air_collision" title="2024 Lumut mid-air collision">2024 Lumut mid-air collision</a> or <a href="/wiki/2023_Alaska_mid-air_collision" title="2023 Alaska mid-air collision">2023 Alaska mid-air collision</a> (to take two recent examples) made the front page. - <a href="/wiki/User:SchroCat" title="User:SchroCat">SchroCat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SchroCat" title="User talk:SchroCat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SchroCat-20250130073700-Berchanhimez-20250130073300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:37, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SchroCat-20250130073700-Berchanhimez-20250130073300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130073700","author":"SchroCat","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-SchroCat-20250130073700-Berchanhimez-20250130073300","replies":["c-Berchanhimez-20250130075700-SchroCat-20250130073700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SchroCat-20250130073700-Berchanhimez-20250130073300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Berchanhimez-20250130075700-SchroCat-20250130073700"></span>How "complete" must the article be? What "details" must be known before it can be posted? Was the article actually incomplete? And they're uncommon when involving airliners, which is the comparison to be made here. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | <a href="/wiki/User:Berchanhimez" title="User:Berchanhimez">me</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Berchanhimez" title="User talk:Berchanhimez">talk to me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Berchanhimez-20250130075700-SchroCat-20250130073700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:57, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Berchanhimez-20250130075700-SchroCat-20250130073700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130075700","author":"Berchanhimez","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Berchanhimez-20250130075700-SchroCat-20250130073700","replies":[],"displayName":"me"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Berchanhimez-20250130075700-SchroCat-20250130073700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Natg_19-20250130063100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Can be blurb be changed to "collides with a military helicopter...near Washington DC"? The accident did not occur in DC, but nearby, and want to emphasize that it was a military helicopter. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20250130063100-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Natg_19-20250130063100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130063100","author":"Natg 19","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Natg_19-20250130063100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-SchroCat-20250131085000-Natg_19-20250130063100","c-Nfitz-20250130083000-Natg_19-20250130063100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Natg_19-20250130063100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SchroCat-20250131085000-Natg_19-20250130063100"></span>The posted version said four people had been rescued. That's the problem with going off half-cocked on an overly rushed promotion. We're not a news ticker - we can never hope to be - which means we don't have the same levels of fact checking and confirmation that they do, which is why it's always best to wait more than an hour for both the situation and the article to develop. Half-baked articles carrying major errors don't make us look good in the eyes of the world. - <a href="/wiki/User:SchroCat" title="User:SchroCat">SchroCat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SchroCat" title="User talk:SchroCat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SchroCat-20250131085000-Natg_19-20250130063100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:50, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SchroCat-20250131085000-Natg_19-20250130063100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131085000","author":"SchroCat","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-SchroCat-20250131085000-Natg_19-20250130063100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SchroCat-20250131085000-Natg_19-20250130063100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nfitz-20250130083000-Natg_19-20250130063100"></span>The collision occurred over Washington DC, @<a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a>. According to <a href="/wiki/Geography_of_Washington,_D.C." title="Geography of Washington, D.C.">Geography of Washington, D.C.</a> (and King Charles I in the 1630s), the boundary between D.C. and Virginia is such that the entire river is part of Washington DC, and it only becomes Virginia at the shoreline. <a href="/wiki/User:Nfitz" title="User:Nfitz">Nfitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nfitz" title="User talk:Nfitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nfitz-20250130083000-Natg_19-20250130063100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:30, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nfitz-20250130083000-Natg_19-20250130063100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130083000","author":"Nfitz","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nfitz-20250130083000-Natg_19-20250130063100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nfitz-20250130083000-Natg_19-20250130063100"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gotitbro-20250130091100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Comment</b> Absurd rush to post (another phenomenon of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_coverage_of_death" title="Wikipedia coverage of death">Wikipedians trying to be the first</a> which does not an encyclopedia make), second behind Queen Elizabeth's death I suppose though atleast that article was an FA rather than a newly minted one with half the info. And <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TROUT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TROUT">WP:TROUTing</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> especially when so many editors cautioned waiting despite voicing support on notability. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20250130091100-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gotitbro-20250130091100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130091100","author":"Gotitbro","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gotitbro-20250130091100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091800-Gotitbro-20250130091100","c-Aaron_Liu-20250130122300-Gotitbro-20250130091100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gotitbro-20250130091100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091800-Gotitbro-20250130091100"></span>The rush was really unneeded. 'Unknown' should never have went to the Main Page. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091800-Gotitbro-20250130091100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091800-Gotitbro-20250130091100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130091800","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091800-Gotitbro-20250130091100","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091800-Gotitbro-20250130091100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aaron_Liu-20250130122300-Gotitbro-20250130091100"></span>Only 2 editors stayed their wait. The consensus was to post it right then. <a href="/wiki/User:Aaron_Liu" title="User:Aaron Liu"><span class="skin-invert" style="color:#0645ad">Aaron Liu</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aaron_Liu#top" title="User talk:Aaron Liu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Aaron_Liu-20250130122300-Gotitbro-20250130091100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:23, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aaron_Liu-20250130122300-Gotitbro-20250130091100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130122300","author":"Aaron Liu","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Aaron_Liu-20250130122300-Gotitbro-20250130091100","replies":["c-Gotitbro-20250130155400-Aaron_Liu-20250130122300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aaron_Liu-20250130122300-Gotitbro-20250130091100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gotitbro-20250130155400-Aaron_Liu-20250130122300"></span>Do not need to explicitly say stay, most comments then and now clearly imply uncertainty about facts. Admin judgment would be to not rush a Main Page posting after less than an hour of discussion, ITN is no exception. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20250130155400-Aaron_Liu-20250130122300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:54, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gotitbro-20250130155400-Aaron_Liu-20250130122300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130155400","author":"Gotitbro","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gotitbro-20250130155400-Aaron_Liu-20250130122300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gotitbro-20250130155400-Aaron_Liu-20250130122300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130112300-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Comment</b> 56 minutes between time of nomination and time of posting, for anyone keeping track. Bit fast, in my opinion. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250130112300-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:23, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130112300-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130112300","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250130112300-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130112300-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Black_Kite-20250130113100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Sigh</b> Why do we do this over and over again? We know it's going to be posted, <b>there's no rush, we are not a news ticker</b>. Incidentally, the version that was posted onto the main page contained the phrase <i>"At least four survivors were reported to have been recovered from the water and taken to local hospitals"</i> which doesn't actually appear to be sourced as far as I can see. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Black_Kite" title="User talk:Black Kite">Black Kite (talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Black_Kite-20250130113100-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Black_Kite-20250130113100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130113100","author":"Black Kite","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Black_Kite-20250130113100-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Black_Kite-20250130113100-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Comment</b>: <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Aaron_Liu" title="User:Aaron Liu">Aaron Liu</a>:</span> Combined edits of 3 editors who said Wait= 97k, Combined edits of (9+1) editors who said Support= 23.5k (excluding only Knowledgekid87). In other words, those were bunch of novice editors, decision should be made in terms of consensus based on reason and guidelines, than just counting number of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:!vote" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:!vote">votes</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130123600","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-Masem-20250130130200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600","c-Aaron_Liu-20250130131400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600","c-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600","c-Black_Kite-20250130154900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600","c-Rager7-20250131021100-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250130130200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"></span>To add, none of the support !votes at the time of posting expressed any evaluation of the quality of the article, only "omg this is a big air accident". Quality review is essential requirement for ITN items and that clearly wasn't taken into account in posting.<span id="Masem:1738242178293:WikipediaFTTCLNIn_the_news/Candidates" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250130130200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:02, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250130130200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250130130200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130130200","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Masem-20250130130200-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600","replies":[]}}--></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aaron_Liu-20250130131400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"></span>That means the consensus was flawed, not that there wasn't a consensus. If I was in this position as a "wait" !vote, I would add a reply questioning the article quality. Here, it seems like the !voters just dropped their doubts on the consensus. I understand that Ad Orientem probably should've IAR'd, though. <a href="/wiki/User:Aaron_Liu" title="User:Aaron Liu"><span class="skin-invert" style="color:#0645ad">Aaron Liu</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aaron_Liu#top" title="User talk:Aaron Liu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Aaron_Liu-20250130131400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:14, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aaron_Liu-20250130131400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130131400","author":"Aaron Liu","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Aaron_Liu-20250130131400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600","replies":["c-Masem-20250130135000-Aaron_Liu-20250130131400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aaron_Liu-20250130131400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250130135000-Aaron_Liu-20250130131400"></span>There is no way a consensus can be reached in an hour. Otherwise, that means consensus gets determine by who happened to show up first. Even the recent SNOW closures took several hours before closed that way.<span id="Masem:1738245004554:WikipediaFTTCLNIn_the_news/Candidates" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250130135000-Aaron_Liu-20250130131400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250130135000-Aaron_Liu-20250130131400"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250130135000-Aaron_Liu-20250130131400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130135000","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Masem-20250130135000-Aaron_Liu-20250130131400","replies":[]}}--></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"></span>Who are you to judge consensus based on edit count alone? """Novices'"""" (several thousand edits and years of experience still makes you a newbie somehow?) arguments should be treated less just because the editors who said wait theoretically have a larger edit count combined (which btw is inflated; most of them have a few thousand edits)? That type of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Editcountitis" title="Wikipedia:Editcountitis">WP:Editcountitis</a> behavior should not be used to dismiss consensus just because you don't like the result. — <a href="/wiki/User:Knightoftheswords281" title="User:Knightoftheswords281"><span style="background:black; color:white; padding:2px;"><b>Knightof</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knightoftheswords281" title="User talk:Knightoftheswords281"><span style="background:#70c6ff; color:black; padding:2px;"><b>theswords</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130140400","author":"Knightoftheswords281","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130141100-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130142200-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400"],"displayName":"Knightof"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130141100-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400"></span>I am no one. A novice pretty much like you. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130141100-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130141100-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130141100","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130141100-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130141100-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130142200-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400"></span>Novices, with regards to ITN at least. Many names I saw frequently were missing, but few I never saw were not. No one came up with points that are raised now, after it was posted. Few sure were quite experienced, but not exactly in ITN. Few were newbies, altogether the 'consensus' seemed not quite thoroughly thought of. Also I feel quite unconscious <a href="/wiki/Bystander_effect" title="Bystander effect">bystander effect</a> was involved. Keep cool, thanks -<a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130142200-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:22, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130142200-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130142200","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130142200-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130142200-Knightoftheswords281-20250130140400"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Black_Kite-20250130154900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"></span>Experience is mostly irrelevant. I've seen excellent rationales from newbie editors and crappy ones from veterans. Admittedly, new editors are less likely to grasp the fact that ITN isn't a 24/7 news ticker, which some did here, but otherwise I don't see the relevance. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Black_Kite" title="User talk:Black Kite">Black Kite (talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Black_Kite-20250130154900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Black_Kite-20250130154900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130154900","author":"Black Kite","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Black_Kite-20250130154900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Black_Kite-20250130154900-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rager7-20250131021100-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"></span>Edit count and experience doesn't matter when it comes to consensus forming. As long as said editor has a legitimate reasoning for their vote then it should count as part of the decision-making process. <a href="/wiki/User:Rager7" title="User:Rager7"><span style="background-color: red; color: blue">Rager7</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rager7" title="User talk:Rager7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rager7-20250131021100-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:11, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rager7-20250131021100-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131021100","author":"Rager7","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Rager7-20250131021100-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rager7-20250131021100-ExclusiveEditor-20250130123600"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TNM101-20250130125900-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Comment</b> Considering everyone's comments above, I cannot help but wonder why we couldn't have a sort of 'minimum time limit' for posting ITN's. We could avoid so many of these incidents if there was one. Instead of just citing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTNEWS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTNEWS">WP:NOTNEWS</a>, we could just have a simple criterion on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/A" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/A">WP:ITN/A</a> that blurbs should only be posted after a certain time, maybe two hours or so, even after there is consensus present. This would have two advantages IMO, i) We would not have these discussions again and ii) There would probably be sufficient info about the event mentioned in the article for an accurate blurb. I know this might be controversial, but we need to find a way to end these unproductive debates that occur when admins post early <small> (Ad Orientem, no offense intended) </small>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101"><span style="color:red;">TNM</span><span style="color:black;">101</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101"><span style="color:blue;">chat</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TNM101-20250130125900-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TNM101-20250130125900-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130125900","author":"TNM101","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TNM101-20250130125900-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-Black_Kite-20250130154900-TNM101-20250130125900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TNM101-20250130125900-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Black_Kite-20250130154900-TNM101-20250130125900"></span>Apart from the <i>very</i> rare occasion when there's clearly zero article issues and the topic is obviously going to be posted (i.e. death of Queen Elizabeth II, all information was known, article was an FA) then I suggest we should be waiting at least long enough for the <i>actual bloody facts</i> to be clear before posting. As I said above, this one was posted with a sentence that suggests there were survivors; whilst I doubt if anyone related to the victims was checking Wikipedia as their first news source on the accident, I wonder how many people saw that? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Black_Kite" title="User talk:Black Kite">Black Kite (talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Black_Kite-20250130154900-TNM101-20250130125900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Black_Kite-20250130154900-TNM101-20250130125900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130154900","author":"Black Kite","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Black_Kite-20250130154900-TNM101-20250130125900","replies":["c-Gotitbro-20250130160100-Black_Kite-20250130154900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Black_Kite-20250130154900-TNM101-20250130125900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gotitbro-20250130160100-Black_Kite-20250130154900"></span>I assumed from the ITN posting that there were many a survivors and surprised to see an ITN update so fast decided to check the discussion, only then I learned that no one was likely to survive (none did). Posting with half the info definitely did mislead Main Page viewers in that period. Unacceptable as an encyclopedia. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20250130160100-Black_Kite-20250130154900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:01, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gotitbro-20250130160100-Black_Kite-20250130154900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130160100","author":"Gotitbro","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gotitbro-20250130160100-Black_Kite-20250130154900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gotitbro-20250130160100-Black_Kite-20250130154900"></span></dd></dl></li></ul></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130160400-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Comment</b>: I think most of the comments now are relevant to posting of this, and not the ITN. This could be done on ITN's talk page. Even for the fact, this could be closed. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130160400-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130160400-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130160400","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130160400-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-TNM101-20250130164300-ExclusiveEditor-20250130160400"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130160400-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TNM101-20250130164300-ExclusiveEditor-20250130160400"></span>I'll start a new topic on the talk page <b><a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101"><span style="color:red;">TNM</span><span style="color:black;">101</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101"><span style="color:blue;">chat</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TNM101-20250130164300-ExclusiveEditor-20250130160400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TNM101-20250130164300-ExclusiveEditor-20250130160400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130164300","author":"TNM101","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TNM101-20250130164300-ExclusiveEditor-20250130160400","replies":["c-TNM101-20250130174800-TNM101-20250130164300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TNM101-20250130164300-ExclusiveEditor-20250130160400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TNM101-20250130174800-TNM101-20250130164300"></span>I started a new topic on the talk page, please direct your comments there <b><a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101"><span style="color:red;">TNM</span><span style="color:black;">101</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101"><span style="color:blue;">chat</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TNM101-20250130174800-TNM101-20250130164300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TNM101-20250130174800-TNM101-20250130164300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130174800","author":"TNM101","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-TNM101-20250130174800-TNM101-20250130164300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TNM101-20250130174800-TNM101-20250130164300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jessintime-20250130162300-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span>Comment</b>. I'm commenting here instead of making a separate nomination at this point, but both <a href="/wiki/Vadim_Naumov" title="Vadim Naumov">Vadim Naumov</a> and <a href="/wiki/Evgenia_Shishkova" title="Evgenia Shishkova">Evgenia Shishkova</a> were onboard the flight and are presumed deceased. I didn't know if they should be listed in the RD section or not given the are already mentioned in the crash article. ~~ <a href="/wiki/User:Jessintime" title="User:Jessintime">Jessintime</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jessintime" title="User talk:Jessintime">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Jessintime-20250130162300-Rockstone35-20250130031500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:23, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jessintime-20250130162300-Rockstone35-20250130031500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130162300","author":"Jessintime","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jessintime-20250130162300-Rockstone35-20250130031500","replies":["c-BabbaQ-20250130163100-Jessintime-20250130162300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jessintime-20250130162300-Rockstone35-20250130031500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BabbaQ-20250130163100-Jessintime-20250130162300"></span>Add noms about them separate. Definitely.<a href="/wiki/User:BabbaQ" title="User:BabbaQ">BabbaQ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BabbaQ" title="User talk:BabbaQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BabbaQ-20250130163100-Jessintime-20250130162300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BabbaQ-20250130163100-Jessintime-20250130162300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130163100","author":"BabbaQ","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BabbaQ-20250130163100-Jessintime-20250130162300","replies":["c-Masem-20250130173400-BabbaQ-20250130163100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BabbaQ-20250130163100-Jessintime-20250130162300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250130173400-BabbaQ-20250130163100"></span>That plane that crashed several years ago with a major football team on it, we included one or two names from it in the crash blurb. I think we can work those two names in.<span id="Masem:1738258454938:WikipediaFTTCLNIn_the_news/Candidates" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250130173400-BabbaQ-20250130163100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250130173400-BabbaQ-20250130163100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130173400","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Masem-20250130173400-BabbaQ-20250130163100","replies":["c-Masem-20250130173800-Masem-20250130173400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250130173400-BabbaQ-20250130163100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250130173800-Masem-20250130173400"></span>Though I just checked the two bios and both are missing sources, so this likely will not happen soon.<span id="Masem:1738258722164:WikipediaFTTCLNIn_the_news/Candidates" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250130173800-Masem-20250130173400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250130173800-Masem-20250130173400"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250130173800-Masem-20250130173400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130173800","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Masem-20250130173800-Masem-20250130173400","replies":[]}}--></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah-January_29-20250130024000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah-January_29-20250130024000"></span>RD: Mavai Senathirajah<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah-January_29-20250130024000"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: RD: Mavai Senathirajah"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abishe-20250130024000-RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Mavai_Senathirajah"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Mavai_Senathirajah" title="Mavai Senathirajah">Mavai Senathirajah</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Mavai_Senathirajah" title="Talk:Mavai Senathirajah">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mavai_Senathirajah&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mavai_Senathirajah&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Mavai+Senathirajah">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dailymirror.lk/breaking-news/Former-ITAK-MP-Mavai-Senathirajah-passes-away/108-301261">Daily Mirror Sri Lanka</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Abishe" title="User:Abishe">Abishe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abishe" title="User talk:Abishe">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Abishe&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BMavai+Senathirajah%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Mavai+Senathirajah&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HongXiuquan73&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HongXiuquan73 (page does not exist)">HongXiuquan73</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HongXiuquan73" title="User talk:HongXiuquan73">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:HongXiuquan73&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BMavai+Senathirajah%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Mavai+Senathirajah&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Abishe" title="User:Abishe">Abishe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abishe" title="User talk:Abishe">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Abishe&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BMavai+Senathirajah%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Mavai+Senathirajah&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: prominent Tamil politician in Sri Lanka and was a key political figure who advocated for separatist Tamil Eelam. <a href="/wiki/User:Abishe" title="User:Abishe">Abishe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abishe" title="User talk:Abishe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abishe-20250130024000-RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abishe-20250130024000-RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130024000","author":"Abishe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Abishe-20250130024000-RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091400-Abishe-20250130024000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abishe-20250130024000-RD:_Mavai_Senathirajah"></span> </p><dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091400-Abishe-20250130024000"></span>Weak Support</b>: The article is well cited, but could be expanded a bit more. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091400-Abishe-20250130024000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:14, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091400-Abishe-20250130024000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:16, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130091600","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091400","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091600-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Marina_Colasanti" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Marina_Colasanti-January_29-20250129230900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RD:_Marina_Colasanti-January_29-20250129230900"></span>RD: Marina Colasanti<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RD:_Marina_Colasanti-January_29-20250129230900"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: RD: Marina Colasanti"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250129230900-RD:_Marina_Colasanti"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Marina_Colasanti"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Marina_Colasanti"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Marina_Colasanti" title="Marina Colasanti">Marina Colasanti</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Marina_Colasanti" title="Talk:Marina Colasanti">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marina_Colasanti&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Marina_Colasanti&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Marina+Colasanti">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2025/01/28/morre-a-escritora-marina-colasanti.ghtml">G1</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArionStar&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BMarina+Colasanti%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Marina+Colasanti&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p> <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250129230900-RD:_Marina_Colasanti" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250129230900-RD:_Marina_Colasanti"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129230900","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250129230900-RD:_Marina_Colasanti","replies":["c-Stephen-20250130023400-ArionStar-20250129230900","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091000-ArionStar-20250129230900","c-Fakescientist8000-20250130114900-ArionStar-20250129230900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250129230900-RD:_Marina_Colasanti"></span> </p><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250130023400-ArionStar-20250129230900"></span>Oppose</b> a bio with one reference is not worth nominating. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250130023400-ArionStar-20250129230900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:34, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250130023400-ArionStar-20250129230900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130023400","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stephen-20250130023400-ArionStar-20250129230900","replies":[],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20250130023400-ArionStar-20250129230900"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091000-ArionStar-20250129230900"></span>Oppose!</b> Has been expanded since, thanks to ForsythiaJo, but the 'Works' section needs to be cited, with other improvements to quality. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091000-ArionStar-20250129230900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:10, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091000-ArionStar-20250129230900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130091000","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091000-ArionStar-20250129230900","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130091000-ArionStar-20250129230900"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130114900-ArionStar-20250129230900"></span>Oppose</b> Both the Works and Prizes sections of the article need additional citations. A longer lead would be nice, too. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250130114900-ArionStar-20250129230900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:49, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130114900-ArionStar-20250129230900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130114900","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250130114900-ArionStar-20250129230900","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130114900-ArionStar-20250129230900"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima-January_29-20250129151900"><span id=".28Closed.29_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima-January_29-20250129151900"></span>(Closed) IShowSpeed honored as Mayor of Lima<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima-January_29-20250129151900"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: (Closed) IShowSpeed honored as Mayor of Lima"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250129161500-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-abovebelow" style="padding: 0;"> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NON-ADMIN_CLOSURE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NON-ADMIN CLOSURE">NON-ADMIN CLOSURE</a>)</small></div> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Fairly obvious <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SNOW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SNOW">WP:SNOW</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250129161500-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250129161500-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129161500","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250129161500-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250129161500-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima"></span></div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima"></span>The following discussion is closed. <strong style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</strong> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </p> </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 114px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:IShowSpeed_at_Chinatown_(Portrait)_01.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/IShowSpeed_at_Chinatown_%28Portrait%29_01.jpg/114px-IShowSpeed_at_Chinatown_%28Portrait%29_01.jpg" decoding="async" width="114" height="171" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/IShowSpeed_at_Chinatown_%28Portrait%29_01.jpg/171px-IShowSpeed_at_Chinatown_%28Portrait%29_01.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/IShowSpeed_at_Chinatown_%28Portrait%29_01.jpg/228px-IShowSpeed_at_Chinatown_%28Portrait%29_01.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2109" data-file-height="3164"/></a></span></div> </div><b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="IShowSpeed"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_IShowSpeed"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/IShowSpeed" title="IShowSpeed">IShowSpeed</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:IShowSpeed" title="Talk:IShowSpeed">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IShowSpeed&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:IShowSpeed&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=IShowSpeed">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> <b><a href="/wiki/IShowSpeed" title="IShowSpeed">IShowSpeed</a></b> is declared honorary Mayor of Lima for an hour and receives the Ambassador of Lima Award during the city's 490th anniversary celebrations, with a massive crowd chanting his signature "SIUU". </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/a/alex-ocho/ishowspeed-declared-mayor-of-lima">Complex</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/wwe/top-stories/ishowspeed-and-kai-cenat-could-have-an-epic-showdown-at-the-wwe-2025-royal-rumble/articleshow/117678977.cms">Times of India</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sheagolddigger&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sheagolddigger (page does not exist)">sheagolddigger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sheagolddigger" title="User talk:Sheagolddigger">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sheagolddigger&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BIShowSpeed%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=IShowSpeed&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small></div> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sheagolddigger&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sheagolddigger (page does not exist)">sheagolddigger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sheagolddigger" title="User talk:Sheagolddigger">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129151900","author":"Sheagolddigger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima","replies":["c-Presidentman-20250129154800-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900","c-GenevieveDEon-20250129154900-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900","c-Departure\u2013-20250129155300-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900","c-Alsoriano97-20250129161000-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900-(Closed)_IShowSpeed_honored_as_Mayor_of_Lima"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Presidentman-20250129154800-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900"></span>Oppose</b> Guy visits a city and is given an award. This doesn't seem to be on the level of other stories. - <a href="/wiki/User:Presidentman" title="User:Presidentman">Presidentman</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Presidentman" title="User talk:Presidentman">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Presidentman" title="Special:Contributions/Presidentman">contribs</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TBACK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TBACK">Talkback</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Presidentman-20250129154800-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Presidentman-20250129154800-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129154800","author":"Presidentman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Presidentman-20250129154800-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900","replies":["c-Sheagolddigger-20250129155000-Presidentman-20250129154800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Presidentman-20250129154800-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sheagolddigger-20250129155000-Presidentman-20250129154800"></span>did you not see "declared honorary Mayor of Lima for an hour" by an streamer/youtuber? ye <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sheagolddigger&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sheagolddigger (page does not exist)">Sheagolddigger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sheagolddigger" title="User talk:Sheagolddigger">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Sheagolddigger-20250129155000-Presidentman-20250129154800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sheagolddigger-20250129155000-Presidentman-20250129154800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129155000","author":"Sheagolddigger","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sheagolddigger-20250129155000-Presidentman-20250129154800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sheagolddigger-20250129155000-Presidentman-20250129154800"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250129154900-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900"></span>Oppose</b> - Absurd, irrelevant trivia. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GenevieveDEon-20250129154900-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:49, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250129154900-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129154900","author":"GenevieveDEon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GenevieveDEon-20250129154900-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenevieveDEon-20250129154900-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Departure–-20250129155300-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900"></span>Strong oppose and SNOW close</b> per all above. We don't post any mayoral election on ITN or even Current Events I don't think, even for capital cities and other large and important communities. Being the <i>honorary</i> mayor for <i>one hour</i> doesn't seem to be any more important. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20250129155300-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Departure–-20250129155300-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129155300","author":"Departure\u2013","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Departure\u2013-20250129155300-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Departure–-20250129155300-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alsoriano97-20250129161000-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900"></span>Oppose and close</b> little more to add. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20250129161000-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:10, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alsoriano97-20250129161000-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129161000","author":"Alsoriano97","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alsoriano97-20250129161000-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900","replies":[],"displayName":"_-_Alsor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alsoriano97-20250129161000-Sheagolddigger-20250129151900"></span></li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Ready)_2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Ready)_2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash-January_29-20250129151900"><span id=".28Ready.29_2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Ready)_2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash-January_29-20250129151900"></span>(Ready) 2025 Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900 crash<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Ready)_2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash-January_29-20250129151900"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: (Ready) 2025 Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900 crash"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250129151900-(Ready)_2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 202px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Airnewzealandbeech1900D-ZK-EAF.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Airnewzealandbeech1900D-ZK-EAF.jpg/202px-Airnewzealandbeech1900D-ZK-EAF.jpg" decoding="async" width="202" height="97" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Airnewzealandbeech1900D-ZK-EAF.jpg/303px-Airnewzealandbeech1900D-ZK-EAF.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Airnewzealandbeech1900D-ZK-EAF.jpg/404px-Airnewzealandbeech1900D-ZK-EAF.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1024" data-file-height="490"/></a></span></div> </div><b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash" title="2025 Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900 crash">2025 Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900 crash</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash" title="Talk:2025 Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900 crash">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Light+Air+Services+Beechcraft+1900+crash">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> <a href="/wiki/2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash" title="2025 Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900 crash"><b>A plane crash</b></a> </i>(aircraft pictured)<i> in <a href="/wiki/Unity_(state)" title="Unity (state)">Unity state</a>, South Sudan, kills 20 of the 21 occupants onboard. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/plane-crash-south-sudans-unity-state-kills-18-uns-radio-miraya-reports-2025-01-29/">Reuters</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArionStar&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2025+Light+Air+Services+Beechcraft+1900+crash%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Light+Air+Services+Beechcraft+1900+crash&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div></div><p> <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250129151900-(Ready)_2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250129151900-(Ready)_2025_Light_Air_Services_Beechcraft_1900_crash"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Estreyeria-20250129153300-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span>Oppose</b> Far too stubby at the moment. <a href="/wiki/User:Estreyeria" title="User:Estreyeria">Estreyeria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Estreyeria" title="User talk:Estreyeria">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Estreyeria-20250129153300-ArionStar-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Estreyeria-20250129153300-ArionStar-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="c-Bloxzge_025-20250131192600-Estreyeria-20250129153300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131192600","author":"Bloxzge 025","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bloxzge_025-20250131192600-Estreyeria-20250129153300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bloxzge_025-20250131192600-Estreyeria-20250129153300"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250129153700-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span>Oppose</b> as a stub. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250129153700-ArionStar-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250129153700-ArionStar-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129153700","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250129153700-ArionStar-20250129151900","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250129183500-The_Kip-20250129153700"],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250129153700-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250129183500-The_Kip-20250129153700"></span>Better now. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250129183500-The_Kip-20250129153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:35, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250129183500-The_Kip-20250129153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129183500","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250129183500-The_Kip-20250129153700","replies":["c-The_Kip-20250129190600-ArionStar-20250129183500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250129183500-The_Kip-20250129153700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250129190600-ArionStar-20250129183500"></span>It's not quite a stub anymore but it's still nowhere near ITN length. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250129190600-ArionStar-20250129183500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250129190600-ArionStar-20250129183500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129190600","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250129190600-ArionStar-20250129183500","replies":["c-Bloxzge_025-20250131192500-The_Kip-20250129190600"],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250129190600-ArionStar-20250129183500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bloxzge_025-20250131192500-The_Kip-20250129190600"></span>What about now? <a href="/wiki/User:Bloxzge_025" title="User:Bloxzge 025">Bloxzge 025</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bloxzge_025" title="User talk:Bloxzge 025">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bloxzge_025-20250131192500-The_Kip-20250129190600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bloxzge_025-20250131192500-The_Kip-20250129190600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131192500","author":"Bloxzge 025","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Bloxzge_025-20250131192500-The_Kip-20250129190600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bloxzge_025-20250131192500-The_Kip-20250129190600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wildfireupdateman-20250129213600-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span>Oppose</b> on quality. <a href="/wiki/User:Wildfireupdateman" title="User:Wildfireupdateman">Wildfireupdateman :)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wildfireupdateman" title="User talk:Wildfireupdateman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Wildfireupdateman-20250129213600-ArionStar-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wildfireupdateman-20250129213600-ArionStar-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250129231100-Wildfireupdateman-20250129213600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129231100","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250129231100-Wildfireupdateman-20250129213600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250129231100-Wildfireupdateman-20250129213600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250130023300-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span>Oppose</b> tragic but of no consequence. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250130023300-ArionStar-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:33, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250130023300-ArionStar-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130023300","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stephen-20250130023300-ArionStar-20250129151900","replies":[],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20250130023300-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span></li> <li><s><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090800-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span>Oppose on quality!</b></s>: But there is surely a possibility that it could be improved at be posted. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090800-ArionStar-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090800-ArionStar-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bloxzge_025-20250131173400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131173400","author":"Bloxzge 025","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bloxzge_025-20250131173400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bloxzge_025-20250131173400-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090800"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blaylockjam10-20250201062700-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span>Support</b> The quality is good enough now & the # of deaths makes this notable. <a href="/wiki/User:Blaylockjam10" title="User:Blaylockjam10">Blaylockjam10</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blaylockjam10" title="User talk:Blaylockjam10">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Blaylockjam10-20250201062700-ArionStar-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:27, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blaylockjam10-20250201062700-ArionStar-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201062700","author":"Blaylockjam10","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Blaylockjam10-20250201062700-ArionStar-20250129151900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blaylockjam10-20250201062700-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TNM101-20250201125800-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span>Support</b> Article quality has improved and as per Blaylockjam10 no. of deaths is significant enough for ITN <b><a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101"><span style="color:red;">TNM</span><span style="color:black;">101</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101"><span style="color:blue;">chat</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TNM101-20250201125800-ArionStar-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:58, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TNM101-20250201125800-ArionStar-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Second deadliest crash this year. <a href="/wiki/User:Bloxzge_025" title="User:Bloxzge 025">Bloxzge 025</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bloxzge_025" title="User talk:Bloxzge 025">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bloxzge_025-20250201133000-ArionStar-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:30, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bloxzge_025-20250201133000-ArionStar-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201133000","author":"Bloxzge 025","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bloxzge_025-20250201133000-ArionStar-20250129151900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bloxzge_025-20250201133000-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201140400-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span>Support</b>: per above. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201140400-ArionStar-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201140400-ArionStar-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201140400","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201140400-ArionStar-20250129151900","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250201140400-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bremps-20250201174000-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span>Support</b> Notability and quality satisfied. Very sad. <a href="/wiki/User:Bremps" title="User:Bremps"><b><span style="background:#000000; color:white; padding:2px;">Bremps</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bremps" title="User talk:Bremps"><b><span style="color:grey;">...</span></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bremps-20250201174000-ArionStar-20250129151900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bremps-20250201174000-ArionStar-20250129151900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201174000","author":"Bremps","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bremps-20250201174000-ArionStar-20250129151900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bremps-20250201174000-ArionStar-20250129151900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_ECOWAS" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_ECOWAS-January_29-20250129101100"><span id=".28Closed.29_ECOWAS"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Closed)_ECOWAS-January_29-20250129101100"></span>(Closed) ECOWAS<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Closed)_ECOWAS-January_29-20250129101100"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: (Closed) ECOWAS"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250129232700-(Closed)_ECOWAS"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">No consensus to post a duplicate. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250129232700-(Closed)_ECOWAS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:27, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250129232700-(Closed)_ECOWAS"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129232700","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stephen-20250129232700-(Closed)_ECOWAS","replies":[],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20250129232700-(Closed)_ECOWAS"></span></div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100-(Closed)_ECOWAS"></span>The following discussion is closed. <strong style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</strong> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </p> </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="ECOWAS"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_ECOWAS"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/ECOWAS" title="ECOWAS">ECOWAS</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:ECOWAS" title="Talk:ECOWAS">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ECOWAS&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:ECOWAS&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=ECOWAS">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> <a href="/wiki/Burkina_Faso" title="Burkina Faso">Burkina Faso</a>, <a href="/wiki/Mali" title="Mali">Mali</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Niger" title="Niger">Niger</a> formally exit the West African regional bloc <b><a href="/wiki/ECOWAS" title="ECOWAS">ECOWAS</a></b> </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>Alternative blurb:</b> <i> The three members of the <a href="/wiki/Alliance_of_Sahel_States" title="Alliance of Sahel States">Alliance of Sahel States</a>, <a href="/wiki/Burkina_Faso" title="Burkina Faso">Burkina Faso</a>, <a href="/wiki/Mali" title="Mali">Mali</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Niger" title="Niger">Niger</a>, formally exit <b><a href="/wiki/ECOWAS" title="ECOWAS">ECOWAS</a></b> </i><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/29/military-governments-lead-west-african-trio-out-of-ecowas-regional-bloc">[9]</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">Chipmunkdavis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chipmunkdavis&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BECOWAS%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=ECOWAS&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100-(Closed)_ECOWAS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100-(Closed)_ECOWAS"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129101100","author":"Chipmunkdavis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100-(Closed)_ECOWAS","replies":["c-Fakescientist8000-20250129111400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129121900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129140400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","c-PrecariousWorlds-20250129140900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","c-Mike_gigs-20250129141400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","c-Kowal2701-20250129171700-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","c-Modest_Genius-20250129190900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","c-Natg_19-20250129191300-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","c-Khuft-20250129194800-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"],"displayName":"CMD"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100-(Closed)_ECOWAS"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250129111400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span>Comment</b> Note that these 3 member states had already been suspended from ECOWAS for nearly a year prior to leaving, and thus the internal political situation of the organization has effectively not changed except on paper. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250129111400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:14, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250129111400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129111400","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250129111400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250129111400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129121900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span>Duplicate</b> I nominated this a year ago and it was <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/January_2024#(Posted)_ECOWAS" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/January 2024">posted</a> then. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129121900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129121900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129121900","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129121900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","replies":["c-Sportsnut24-20250129124300-Andrew_Davidson-20250129121900"],"displayName":"Andrew"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129121900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sportsnut24-20250129124300-Andrew_Davidson-20250129121900"></span>support</b> it is formal now. shouldnt have been on announcement. Also togo/benin (?) was to join them as an observer.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sportsnut24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sportsnut24 (page does not exist)">Sportsnut24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sportsnut24" title="User talk:Sportsnut24">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Sportsnut24-20250129124300-Andrew_Davidson-20250129121900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sportsnut24-20250129124300-Andrew_Davidson-20250129121900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129124300","author":"Sportsnut24","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sportsnut24-20250129124300-Andrew_Davidson-20250129121900","replies":["c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129153500-Sportsnut24-20250129124300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sportsnut24-20250129124300-Andrew_Davidson-20250129121900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129153500-Sportsnut24-20250129124300"></span>The countries leaving said that it was effective immediately. It's not clear that this latest formality has any practical effect as the nom's source says "The remaining member states were called upon to continue to grant citizens from the three countries the privileges of membership, including the free movement of people and goods." <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129153500-Sportsnut24-20250129124300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129153500-Sportsnut24-20250129124300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129153500","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129153500-Sportsnut24-20250129124300","replies":[],"displayName":"Andrew"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129153500-Sportsnut24-20250129124300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129140400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span>Comment</b>: If this is posted, ECOWAS should be expanded to <a href="/wiki/ECOWAS" title="ECOWAS">Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS)</a> as it was when previously posted. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129140400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129140400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129140400","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129140400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129140400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrecariousWorlds-20250129140900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span>Oppose</b> - These states have not been in ECOWAS for over a year, and we have posted this blurb two times already <a href="/wiki/User:PrecariousWorlds" title="User:PrecariousWorlds">PrecariousWorlds</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrecariousWorlds" title="User talk:PrecariousWorlds">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-PrecariousWorlds-20250129140900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PrecariousWorlds-20250129140900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129140900","author":"PrecariousWorlds","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-PrecariousWorlds-20250129140900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PrecariousWorlds-20250129140900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_gigs-20250129141400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span>Oppose</b> per Andrew Davidson. We don't need to duplicate events like these. Kind of similar to how we don't post both a head of state getting elected and then also them getting inaugurated <small> ✈</small> <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20250129141400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_gigs-20250129141400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129141400","author":"Mike gigs","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_gigs-20250129141400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","replies":["c-Chipmunkdavis-20250129155700-Mike_gigs-20250129141400"],"displayName":"mike_gigs"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_gigs-20250129141400-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20250129155700-Mike_gigs-20250129141400"></span>Brexit was posted at least 3 separate times. <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Chipmunkdavis-20250129155700-Mike_gigs-20250129141400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20250129155700-Mike_gigs-20250129141400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129155700","author":"Chipmunkdavis","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Chipmunkdavis-20250129155700-Mike_gigs-20250129141400","replies":[],"displayName":"CMD"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chipmunkdavis-20250129155700-Mike_gigs-20250129141400"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kowal2701-20250129171700-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span>Support alt 1</b>. This is much more significant than an election, which affects one country, where it’s pretty much guaranteed the winner will be inaugurated. Will have massive ramifications for the region, as countries can now more easily switch neo-colonial partner from France to Russia</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Kowal2701" title="User:Kowal2701">Kowal2701</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kowal2701" title="User talk:Kowal2701">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kowal2701-20250129171700-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kowal2701-20250129171700-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129171700","author":"Kowal2701","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kowal2701-20250129171700-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kowal2701-20250129171700-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Modest_Genius-20250129190900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span>Oppose as duplicate</b>. We already posted this story back in February. Today's event is a legal formality, the practical effects were already in place. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius"><b style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: maroon;">Modest Genius</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius"><sup>talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20250129190900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Modest_Genius-20250129190900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129190900","author":"Modest Genius","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Modest_Genius-20250129190900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Modest_Genius-20250129190900-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Natg_19-20250129191300-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span>Oppose as duplicate</b> per Andrew Davidson. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20250129191300-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Natg_19-20250129191300-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129191300","author":"Natg 19","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Natg_19-20250129191300-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Natg_19-20250129191300-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Khuft-20250129194800-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span>Oppose as duplicate</b> per Andrew Davidson and others. Maybe SNOW close? <a href="/wiki/User:Khuft" title="User:Khuft">Khuft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Khuft" title="User talk:Khuft">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Khuft-20250129194800-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Khuft-20250129194800-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129194800","author":"Khuft","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Khuft-20250129194800-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Khuft-20250129194800-Chipmunkdavis-20250129101100"></span></li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_Hōshōryū_Tomokatsu" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_Hōshōryū_Tomokatsu-January_29-20250129035200"><span id=".28Posted.29_H.C5.8Dsh.C5.8Dry.C5.AB_Tomokatsu"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Posted)_Hōshōryū_Tomokatsu-January_29-20250129035200"></span>(Posted) Hōshōryū Tomokatsu<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Posted)_Hōshōryū_Tomokatsu-January_29-20250129035200"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: (Posted) Hōshōryū Tomokatsu"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JRHorse-20250129035200-(Posted)_Hōshōryū_Tomokatsu"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-ITNR"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 114px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB_Tomokatsu_on_January_15,_2022.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB_Tomokatsu_on_January_15%2C_2022.jpg/114px-H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB_Tomokatsu_on_January_15%2C_2022.jpg" decoding="async" width="114" height="171" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB_Tomokatsu_on_January_15%2C_2022.jpg/171px-H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB_Tomokatsu_on_January_15%2C_2022.jpg 1.5x, 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB_Tomokatsu&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB+Tomokatsu">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> In <a href="/wiki/Sumo" title="Sumo">sumo</a>, <b><a href="/wiki/H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB_Tomokatsu" title="Hōshōryū Tomokatsu">Hōshōryū</a></b> </i>(pictured)<i> becomes the 74th <span title="Japanese-language romanization"><i lang="ja-Latn"><a href="/wiki/Makuuchi#Yokozuna" title="Makuuchi">yokozuna</a></i></span>. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>Alternative blurb:</b> <i> <b><a href="/wiki/H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB_Tomokatsu" title="Hōshōryū Tomokatsu">Hōshōryū</a></b> </i>(pictured)<i> becomes <a href="/wiki/Sumo" title="Sumo">sumo</a>'s 74th <span title="Japanese-language romanization"><i lang="ja-Latn"><a href="/wiki/Makuuchi#Yokozuna" title="Makuuchi">yokozuna</a></i></span>. </i><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2025/01/22a4a39d92c9-sumo-mongolian-wrestler-hoshoryu-becomes-74th-yokozuna.html">Kyodo News</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2025/01/29/sumo/hoshoryu-yokozuna-promotion/">Japan Times</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20250129-new-sumo-grand-master-vows-best-behaviour-after-promotion">AFP</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:JRHorse" title="User:JRHorse">JRHorse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JRHorse" title="User talk:JRHorse">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JRHorse&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BH%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB+Tomokatsu%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB+Tomokatsu&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:FourTildes" title="User:FourTildes">FourTildes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FourTildes" title="User talk:FourTildes">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:FourTildes&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BH%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB+Tomokatsu%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB+Tomokatsu&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:OtharLuin" title="User:OtharLuin">OtharLuin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:OtharLuin" title="User talk:OtharLuin">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:OtharLuin&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BH%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB+Tomokatsu%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB+Tomokatsu&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>), <a href="/wiki/User:Pawnkingthree" title="User:Pawnkingthree">Pawnkingthree</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pawnkingthree" title="User talk:Pawnkingthree">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pawnkingthree&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BH%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB+Tomokatsu%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB+Tomokatsu&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>), <a href="/wiki/User:ArguaBILL" title="User:ArguaBILL">ArguaBILL</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArguaBILL" title="User talk:ArguaBILL">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArguaBILL&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BH%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB+Tomokatsu%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB+Tomokatsu&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Kaiketsu" title="User:Kaiketsu">Kaiketsu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kaiketsu" title="User talk:Kaiketsu">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kaiketsu&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BH%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB+Tomokatsu%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=H%C5%8Dsh%C5%8Dry%C5%AB+Tomokatsu&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>The nominated event is listed on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">WP:ITN/R</a>, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">WP:ITNCRIT</a>, not the significance.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Nomination per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">WP:ITN/R</a>. Blurb uses the single name Hōshōryū, which is how sumo wrestlers are usually referred to (by their <span title="Japanese-language romanization"><i lang="ja-Latn"><a href="/wiki/Shikona" title="Shikona">shikona</a></i></span>, or ring name). <a href="/wiki/User:JRHorse" title="User:JRHorse">JRHorse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JRHorse" title="User talk:JRHorse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JRHorse-20250129035200-(Posted)_Hōshōryū_Tomokatsu" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:52, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JRHorse-20250129035200-(Posted)_Hōshōryū_Tomokatsu"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250129040600-JRHorse-20250129035200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:06, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250129040600-JRHorse-20250129035200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129040600","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Masem-20250129040600-JRHorse-20250129035200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250129040600-JRHorse-20250129035200"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MtPenguinMonster-20250129045300-JRHorse-20250129035200"></span>Support</b> ITNR and the article is of sufficient quality. --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20250129045300-JRHorse-20250129035200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:53, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MtPenguinMonster-20250129045300-JRHorse-20250129035200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="c-Trepang2-20250129052000-JRHorse-20250129035200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129052000","author":"Trepang2","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Trepang2-20250129052000-JRHorse-20250129035200","replies":["c-OtharLuin-20250129071200-Trepang2-20250129052000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trepang2-20250129052000-JRHorse-20250129035200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OtharLuin-20250129071200-Trepang2-20250129052000"></span>Sumo is indeed hardly ever mentioned in ITN, partly because many users consider that only promotions to the rank of yokozuna are valid. We tried <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/March_2024#h-Takerufuji_Mikiya-March_24-20240327104800" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/March 2024">to feature</a> <a href="/wiki/Takerufuji_Mikiya" title="Takerufuji Mikiya">Takerufuji</a> last March after his historic title, but the nomination failed miserably... - <a href="/wiki/User:OtharLuin" title="User:OtharLuin">OtharLuin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:OtharLuin" title="User talk:OtharLuin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-OtharLuin-20250129071200-Trepang2-20250129052000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:12, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OtharLuin-20250129071200-Trepang2-20250129052000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129071200","author":"OtharLuin","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-OtharLuin-20250129071200-Trepang2-20250129052000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OtharLuin-20250129071200-Trepang2-20250129052000"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250129075100-JRHorse-20250129035200"></span>Support</b> per all above. ITNR and article is good quality. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250129075100-JRHorse-20250129035200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:51, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250129075100-JRHorse-20250129035200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129075100","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250129075100-JRHorse-20250129035200","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250129075100-JRHorse-20250129035200"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129085700-JRHorse-20250129035200"></span>Support!</b>: per above, but the <a href="/wiki/Makuuchi#Yokozuna" title="Makuuchi">yokozuna</a> section seems to be undersourced, albeit its an unbolded link. Why is altblurb2 suggesting <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">sumo's 74th yokozuna</span>? Are there other sports with champion called so? --<a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129085700-JRHorse-20250129035200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129085700-JRHorse-20250129035200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129085700","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129085700-JRHorse-20250129035200","replies":["c-JRHorse-20250129123800-ExclusiveEditor-20250129085700"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129085700-JRHorse-20250129035200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JRHorse-20250129123800-ExclusiveEditor-20250129085700"></span>There have only been that many wrestlers in sumo that have done good enough to reach the top rank, at least for as long as records have been kept. <a href="/wiki/Professional_sumo_divisions" title="Professional sumo divisions">Professional sumo divisions</a> and <a href="/wiki/Makuuchi" title="Makuuchi">Makuuchi</a> explain it more. The higher one goes, the more difficult the promotion requirements become. <a href="/wiki/User:JRHorse" title="User:JRHorse">JRHorse</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JRHorse" title="User talk:JRHorse">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JRHorse-20250129123800-ExclusiveEditor-20250129085700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:38, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JRHorse-20250129123800-ExclusiveEditor-20250129085700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129123800","author":"JRHorse","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-JRHorse-20250129123800-ExclusiveEditor-20250129085700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JRHorse-20250129123800-ExclusiveEditor-20250129085700"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250129104500-JRHorse-20250129035200"></span>Posted</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250129104500-JRHorse-20250129035200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:45, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250129104500-JRHorse-20250129035200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129104500","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stephen-20250129104500-JRHorse-20250129035200","replies":["c-Miminity-20250129111600-Stephen-20250129104500"],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20250129104500-JRHorse-20250129035200"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Miminity-20250129111600-Stephen-20250129104500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Stephen</a>:</span> Can you add <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Transl" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Transl">transl</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> or just italize <b>yokozuna</b> as it is a not a common english per <a href="/wiki/MOS:JAPAN" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:JAPAN">MOS:JAPAN</a>. Thanks <i><b>Warm Regards</b></i>, <a href="/wiki/User:Miminity" title="User:Miminity">Miminity</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Miminity" title="User talk:Miminity">Talk?</a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Miminity" title="Special:Contributions/Miminity">me contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Miminity-20250129111600-Stephen-20250129104500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:16, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Miminity-20250129111600-Stephen-20250129104500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129111600","author":"Miminity","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Miminity-20250129111600-Stephen-20250129104500","replies":["c-Stephen-20250129113400-Miminity-20250129111600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Miminity-20250129111600-Stephen-20250129104500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250129113400-Miminity-20250129111600"></span>Done, thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250129113400-Miminity-20250129111600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:34, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250129113400-Miminity-20250129111600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129113400","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Stephen-20250129113400-Miminity-20250129111600","replies":[],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20250129113400-Miminity-20250129111600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Omnifalcon-20250129225600-JRHorse-20250129035200"></span>Post-posting note</b> Not sure why for this and <a href="/wiki/Terunofuji" class="mw-redirect" title="Terunofuji">Terunofuji</a>'s ITN promotion entries they include the full <i><a href="/wiki/Shikona" title="Shikona">shikona</a></i>/ring name when none of the news sources, nor even the official online banzuke <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/">[10]</a> show it (unless you click through to a full bio). Would a piped link or redirect of solely the main part of the shikona not suffice? <a href="/wiki/User:Omnifalcon" title="User:Omnifalcon">Omnifalcon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Omnifalcon" title="User talk:Omnifalcon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Omnifalcon-20250129225600-JRHorse-20250129035200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:56, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Omnifalcon-20250129225600-JRHorse-20250129035200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129225600","author":"Omnifalcon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Omnifalcon-20250129225600-JRHorse-20250129035200","replies":["c-Stephen-20250130003400-Omnifalcon-20250129225600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Omnifalcon-20250129225600-JRHorse-20250129035200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250130003400-Omnifalcon-20250129225600"></span>Because full name, not shikona, is used for official and ceremonial occasions, such as promotion. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250130003400-Omnifalcon-20250129225600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:34, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250130003400-Omnifalcon-20250129225600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130003400","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stephen-20250130003400-Omnifalcon-20250129225600","replies":["c-Natg_19-20250130003800-Stephen-20250130003400"],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20250130003400-Omnifalcon-20250129225600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Natg_19-20250130003800-Stephen-20250130003400"></span>Do you have a source for this? The 3 news sources used in this nomination only use the name Hoshoryu and not his surname. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20250130003800-Stephen-20250130003400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:38, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Natg_19-20250130003800-Stephen-20250130003400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130003800","author":"Natg 19","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Natg_19-20250130003800-Stephen-20250130003400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Natg_19-20250130003800-Stephen-20250130003400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Ready)_2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Ready)_2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush-January_29-20250129032000"><span id=".28Ready.29_2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Ready)_2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush-January_29-20250129032000"></span>(Ready) 2025 Prayag Kumbh Mela crowd crush<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Ready)_2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush-January_29-20250129032000"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: (Ready) 2025 Prayag Kumbh Mela crowd crush"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250129032000-(Ready)_2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 187px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Mahakumbhmela.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Mahakumbhmela.jpg/187px-Mahakumbhmela.jpg" decoding="async" width="187" height="105" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Mahakumbhmela.jpg/281px-Mahakumbhmela.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Mahakumbhmela.jpg/374px-Mahakumbhmela.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1600" data-file-height="900"/></a></span></div> </div><b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="2025_Prayag_Maha_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_2025_Prayag_Maha_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/2025_Prayag_Maha_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush" title="2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela crowd crush">2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela crowd crush</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2025_Prayag_Maha_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush" title="Talk:2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela crowd crush">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2025_Prayag_Maha_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2025_Prayag_Maha_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Prayag+Maha+Kumbh+Mela+crowd+crush">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> <a href="/wiki/2025_Prayag_Maha_Kumbh_Mela_stampede" class="mw-redirect" title="2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela stampede"><b>A stampede</b></a> during the <a href="/wiki/2025_Prayag_Maha_Kumbh_Mela" title="2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela">Prayag Kumbh Mela</a> </i>(pictured)<i> in <a href="/wiki/Prayagraj" title="Prayagraj">Prayagraj</a>, <a href="/wiki/Uttar_Pradesh" title="Uttar Pradesh">Uttar Pradesh</a>, India, kills at least 30 people and injures more than 60 others. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>Alternative blurb II:</b> <i> <a href="/wiki/2025_Prayag_Maha_Kumbh_Mela_stampede" class="mw-redirect" title="2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela stampede"><b>A crowd crush</b></a> during the <a href="/wiki/2025_Prayag_Maha_Kumbh_Mela" title="2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela">Prayag Kumbh Mela</a> </i>(pictured)<i> in <a href="/wiki/Prayagraj" title="Prayagraj">Prayagraj</a>, <a href="/wiki/Uttar_Pradesh" title="Uttar Pradesh">Uttar Pradesh</a>, India, kills at least 30 people and injures more than 60 others. </i><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3rwjnr12lwo">BBC</a>,<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jan/29/india-crowd-crush-kumbh-mela-religious-festival-live-blog-injuries-prayagraj">The Guardian</a>,<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/29/deadly-crowd-crush-at-indias-mahakumbh-mela-all-to-know">Al Jazeera</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/28/india/crowd-crush-kumbh-mela-india-intl-latam-hnk/index.html">CNN</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/india/kumbh-mela-stampede-2025-live-updates-prayagraj-deaths-b2688288.html">Independent</a>,<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/28/world/asia/india-stampede-maha-kumbh-festival.html">NYTimes</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArionStar&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2025+Prayag+Maha+Kumbh+Mela+crowd+crush%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Prayag+Maha+Kumbh+Mela+crowd+crush&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Spworld2" title="User:Spworld2">Spworld2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spworld2" title="User talk:Spworld2">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spworld2&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2025+Prayag+Maha+Kumbh+Mela+crowd+crush%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Prayag+Maha+Kumbh+Mela+crowd+crush&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div></div><p> <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250129032000-(Ready)_2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:20, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250129032000-(Ready)_2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush"><span 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data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250129032000-(Ready)_2025_Prayag_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush"></span> </p><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250129034500-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span>For one, there is yet no confirmed deaths per the BBC running article. Second, given that there have been at least 6 of these events that have a had a crowd crush, that it seems like any single one is not more notable than the others. And with how little the other crowd crush articles contain (and seemingly failing NEVENT), it feels that this does not need to be a separate article from the article <a href="/wiki/Prayag_Kumbh_Mela" title="Prayag Kumbh Mela">Prayag Kumbh Mela</a> where there is a section on stampedes/crowd crush that would seem to be a better place to summarize that these events happen, that unfortunately people have died, but seems like is a given outcome with that many people in one place that it will happen. But that's all barring actually having a firm number of people injured or killed. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250129034500-ArionStar-20250129032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250129034500-ArionStar-20250129032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129034500","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Masem-20250129034500-ArionStar-20250129032000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250129034500-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250129045800-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span>Wait</b> Article is nowhere near ready for the front page, and among other details, the death toll is mostly unknown at this point. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250129045800-ArionStar-20250129032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:58, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250129045800-ArionStar-20250129032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129045800","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250129045800-ArionStar-20250129032000","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250129045800-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Departure–-20250129050700-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span>We can <b>wait</b> until we have stronger words than "feared" for these tolls. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20250129050700-ArionStar-20250129032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:07, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Departure–-20250129050700-ArionStar-20250129032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129050700","author":"Departure\u2013","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Departure\u2013-20250129050700-ArionStar-20250129032000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Departure–-20250129050700-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090500-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span>Wait</b>! For more reliable data, will also give article the time to expand and cover aftermath and initial investigatory reports/ analysis. -<a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090500-ArionStar-20250129032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:05, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090500-ArionStar-20250129032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129090500","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090500-ArionStar-20250129032000","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090500-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bagumba-20250129105000-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span>Unclear</b> if it's a crowd crush or a stampede; see <a href="/wiki/Talk:2025_Prayag_Maha_Kumbh_Mela_crowd_crush#Stampede?" title="Talk:2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela crowd crush">Talk:2025 Prayag Maha Kumbh Mela crowd crush#Stampede?</a>—<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20250129105000-ArionStar-20250129032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:50, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bagumba-20250129105000-ArionStar-20250129032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129105000","author":"Bagumba","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bagumba-20250129105000-ArionStar-20250129032000","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250130024000-Bagumba-20250129105000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bagumba-20250129105000-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250130024000-Bagumba-20250129105000"></span>What's the difference? <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250130024000-Bagumba-20250129105000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250130024000-Bagumba-20250129105000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130024000","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250130024000-Bagumba-20250129105000","replies":["c-Bagumba-20250130182700-ArionStar-20250130024000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250130024000-Bagumba-20250129105000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bagumba-20250130182700-ArionStar-20250130024000"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Human_stampede" class="mw-redirect" title="Human stampede">human stampede</a> and <a href="/wiki/Crowd_crush" class="mw-redirect" title="Crowd crush">crowd crush</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20250130182700-ArionStar-20250130024000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:27, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bagumba-20250130182700-ArionStar-20250130024000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130182700","author":"Bagumba","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Bagumba-20250130182700-ArionStar-20250130024000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bagumba-20250130182700-ArionStar-20250130024000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250129112300-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span>Wait</b> until more information is published, per all above. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250129112300-ArionStar-20250129032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:23, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250129112300-ArionStar-20250129032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129112300","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250129112300-ArionStar-20250129032000","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250129112300-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129114900-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span>Oppose</b> The BBC explains <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgq07z0yexvt?page=2">Why crowd crushes are so common in India</a>, "Crowd crushes are tragically frequent in India, often leading to loss of lives. Just this month, six people died in a crush at one of India's wealthiest temples in town of Tirupati in southern Andhra Pradesh state. Last year, over 120 people were killed in Uttar Pradesh’s Hathras district during a religious gathering, highlighting recurring safety lapses. According to government data, 47 crushes happened in India in 2021 and 2022 ..." So an event of this sort seems to happen every two weeks on average and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NEWSEVENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NEWSEVENT">WP:NEWSEVENT</a> applies per Masem above. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129114900-ArionStar-20250129032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:49, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129114900-ArionStar-20250129032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129114900","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129114900-ArionStar-20250129032000","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129115500-Andrew_Davidson-20250129114900"],"displayName":"Andrew"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129114900-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129115500-Andrew_Davidson-20250129114900"></span>Hmm... But may be this is considerable considering we posted the one which happened in 2013 Maha Kumbh Mela too. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129115500-Andrew_Davidson-20250129114900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:55, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129115500-Andrew_Davidson-20250129114900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129115500","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129115500-Andrew_Davidson-20250129114900","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250130023800-ExclusiveEditor-20250129115500"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129115500-Andrew_Davidson-20250129114900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250130023800-ExclusiveEditor-20250129115500"></span>The article is in good shape now. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250130023800-ExclusiveEditor-20250129115500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:38, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250130023800-ExclusiveEditor-20250129115500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130023800","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250130023800-ExclusiveEditor-20250129115500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250130023800-ExclusiveEditor-20250129115500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BabbaQ-20250130120600-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span>Support</b> - Looks good now. Well cited.<a href="/wiki/User:BabbaQ" title="User:BabbaQ">BabbaQ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BabbaQ" title="User talk:BabbaQ">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BabbaQ-20250130120600-ArionStar-20250129032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BabbaQ-20250130120600-ArionStar-20250129032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130120600","author":"BabbaQ","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BabbaQ-20250130120600-ArionStar-20250129032000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BabbaQ-20250130120600-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Natrajdr-20250130134200-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span>Support</b> - We have multiple news sites (BBC, Guardian and local ones) confirming causalities running over 30. Given the chaos, done think clarity on causalities will emerge soon. --<a href="/wiki/User:Natrajdr" title="User:Natrajdr">Natrajdr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natrajdr" title="User talk:Natrajdr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natrajdr-20250130134200-ArionStar-20250129032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Natrajdr-20250130134200-ArionStar-20250129032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130134200","author":"Natrajdr","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Natrajdr-20250130134200-ArionStar-20250129032000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Natrajdr-20250130134200-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span></li> <li><b><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bagumba-20250130182500-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span>Oppose</s></b> due to inconsistent page title of <i><a href="/wiki/Stampede" title="Stampede">stampede</a></i> and contradictory lead sentence with <i><a href="/wiki/Crowd_crush" class="mw-redirect" title="Crowd crush">crowd crush</a></i>.—<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20250130182500-ArionStar-20250129032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bagumba-20250130182500-ArionStar-20250129032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130182500","author":"Bagumba","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bagumba-20250130182500-ArionStar-20250129032000","replies":["c-Bagumba-20250131055000-Bagumba-20250130182500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bagumba-20250130182500-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bagumba-20250131055000-Bagumba-20250130182500"></span>Title has since been moved to <i>crowd crush</i>.—<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20250131055000-Bagumba-20250130182500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:50, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bagumba-20250131055000-Bagumba-20250130182500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131055000","author":"Bagumba","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bagumba-20250131055000-Bagumba-20250130182500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bagumba-20250131055000-Bagumba-20250130182500"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131073800-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span>Note</b>: Article changed to new title after page rename. <b>Altblurb II</b> is the current factually accepted version. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131073800-ArionStar-20250129032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:38, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250131073800-ArionStar-20250129032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Not notable, crowd crushes are especially common in India. <a href="/wiki/User:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User:SimpleSubCubicGraph">SimpleSubCubicGraph</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201051500-ArionStar-20250129032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201051500-ArionStar-20250129032000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201051500","author":"SimpleSubCubicGraph","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201051500-ArionStar-20250129032000","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250201154300-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201051500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201051500-ArionStar-20250129032000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250201154300-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201051500"></span>If we think that way, most of the disasters that occur in the world are common in India, so we won't post any of them… <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250201154300-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201051500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:43, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250201154300-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201051500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201154300","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250201154300-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201051500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250201154300-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250201051500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_Ahmed_al-Sharaa" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_Ahmed_al-Sharaa-January_29-20250129200800"><span id=".28Posted.29_Ahmed_al-Sharaa"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Posted)_Ahmed_al-Sharaa-January_29-20250129200800"></span>(Posted) Ahmed al-Sharaa<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Posted)_Ahmed_al-Sharaa-January_29-20250129200800"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: (Posted) Ahmed al-Sharaa"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800-(Posted)_Ahmed_al-Sharaa"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-ITNR"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 121px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ahmed_al-Sharaa_2024_Infobox_crop.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Ahmed_al-Sharaa_2024_Infobox_crop.jpg/121px-Ahmed_al-Sharaa_2024_Infobox_crop.jpg" decoding="async" width="121" height="162" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Ahmed_al-Sharaa_2024_Infobox_crop.jpg/182px-Ahmed_al-Sharaa_2024_Infobox_crop.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Ahmed_al-Sharaa_2024_Infobox_crop.jpg/242px-Ahmed_al-Sharaa_2024_Infobox_crop.jpg 2x" data-file-width="249" data-file-height="333"/></a></span></div> </div><b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Ahmed_al-Sharaa"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Ahmed_al-Sharaa"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Ahmed_al-Sharaa" title="Ahmed al-Sharaa">Ahmed al-Sharaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Ahmed_al-Sharaa" title="Talk:Ahmed al-Sharaa">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ahmed_al-Sharaa&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ahmed_al-Sharaa&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Ahmed+al-Sharaa">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> <b><a href="/wiki/Ahmed_al-Sharaa" title="Ahmed al-Sharaa">Ahmed al-Sharaa</a></b> </i>(pictured)<i> is appointed as <a href="/wiki/President_of_Syria" title="President of Syria">president of Syria</a> of the <a href="/wiki/Syrian_transitional_government" title="Syrian transitional government">transitional government</a>, succeeding <a href="/wiki/Bashar_al-Assad" title="Bashar al-Assad">Bashar al-Assad</a>. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/29/rebel-leader-ahmad-al-sharaa-made-transitional-president-of-syria">The Guardian</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/syrias-leader-sharaa-named-president-transitional-period-state-news-agency-says-2025-01-29/">Reuters</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/29/syrias-ahmed-al-sharaa-named-president-for-transitional-period">Al Jazeera</a>.<br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Ghazi_Malik" title="User:Ghazi Malik">Ghazi Malik</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ghazi_Malik" title="User talk:Ghazi Malik">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ghazi_Malik&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BAhmed+al-Sharaa%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Ahmed+al-Sharaa&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>The nominated event is listed on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">WP:ITN/R</a>, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">WP:ITNCRIT</a>, not the significance.</small></div><p> <a href="/wiki/User:Ghazi_Malik" title="User:Ghazi Malik">Ghazi Malik</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ghazi_Malik" title="User talk:Ghazi Malik">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800-(Posted)_Ahmed_al-Sharaa" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800-(Posted)_Ahmed_al-Sharaa"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129200800","author":"Ghazi Malik","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800-(Posted)_Ahmed_al-Sharaa","replies":["c-Plumber-20250129234900-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","c-Departure\u2013-20250129235300-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","c-Aydoh8-20250130000400-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","c-HurricaneEdgar-20250130000900-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","c-ArionStar-20250130024200-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","c-Yo.dazo-20250130091300-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","c-Fakescientist8000-20250130112500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","c-Kianlolcat99-20250131001400-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","c-Stephen-20250131005500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800-(Posted)_Ahmed_al-Sharaa"></span> </p><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Plumber-20250129234900-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span>Support</b> - This very notable since <a href="/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_Syria" title="List of presidents of Syria">Syria’s only changed presidents three times in the past 54 years.</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Plumber" title="User:Plumber">Plumber</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Plumber" title="User talk:Plumber">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Plumber-20250129234900-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:49, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Plumber-20250129234900-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129234900","author":"Plumber","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Plumber-20250129234900-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Plumber-20250129234900-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Departure–-20250129235300-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span>Support on notability</b> - First president outside of the Assad regime in decades. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20250129235300-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:53, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Departure–-20250129235300-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129235300","author":"Departure\u2013","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Departure\u2013-20250129235300-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Departure–-20250129235300-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aydoh8-20250130000400-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span>Support</b> ITN/R. There is one CN tag on al-Sharaa's article though, but I don't see that being an issue that would prevent it being posted. <a href="/wiki/User:Aydoh8" title="User:Aydoh8">Aydo</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aydoh8" title="User talk:Aydoh8">h8</a><sup><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Aydoh8" title="Special:Contributions/Aydoh8">[contribs]</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Aydoh8-20250130000400-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aydoh8-20250130000400-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130000400","author":"Aydoh8","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Aydoh8-20250130000400-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","replies":[],"displayName":"Aydo"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aydoh8-20250130000400-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HurricaneEdgar-20250130000900-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span>Support</b> First president since the fall of Assad regime. <span style="font-family: Georgia; background-color: maroon; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;"><a href="/wiki/User:HurricaneEdgar" title="User:HurricaneEdgar"><span style="color: greenyellow">HurricaneEdgar</span></a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=HurricaneEdgar&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="HurricaneEdgar (page does not exist)"><span style="color: greenyellow"></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-HurricaneEdgar-20250130000900-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:09, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HurricaneEdgar-20250130000900-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130000900","author":"HurricaneEdgar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-HurricaneEdgar-20250130000900-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HurricaneEdgar-20250130000900-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250130024200-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span>Support</b> ITN/R. Good article. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250130024200-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:42, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250130024200-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130024200","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250130024200-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250130024200-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span>Comment</b>: If he will also become the of a not so-transitional government, and if that is going to happen soon, then we may that directly instead. -<a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130090500","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yo.dazo-20250130091300-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span>Support</b> ITN/R, also notable for being the first non-Assad leader of Syria in decades and as a very important development in Middle Eastern politics. <a href="/wiki/User:Yo.dazo" title="User:Yo.dazo">Yo.dazo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yo.dazo" title="User talk:Yo.dazo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Yo.dazo-20250130091300-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:13, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yo.dazo-20250130091300-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130091300","author":"Yo.dazo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yo.dazo-20250130091300-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yo.dazo-20250130091300-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130112500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span>Support and marking as ready</b> Article is ITN/R, and the quality is in good condition. Certainly qualifies for ITN. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250130112500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:25, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250130112500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kianlolcat99-20250131001400-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:14, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kianlolcat99-20250131001400-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131001400","author":"Kianlolcat99","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kianlolcat99-20250131001400-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800","replies":[],"displayName":"Can I has Cheezburger?"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kianlolcat99-20250131001400-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250131005500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"></span>Posted</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250131005500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:55, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250131005500-Ghazi_Malik-20250129200800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_January_28&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_January_28&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_January_28&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> <p><b>Armed conflicts and attacks</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Israeli_invasion_of_Syria_(2024%E2%80%93present)" title="Israeli invasion of Syria (2024–present)">Israeli invasion of Syria (2024–present)</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Israeli_Defense_Minister" class="mw-redirect" title="Israeli Defense Minister">Israeli Defense Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Israel_Katz" title="Israel Katz">Israel Katz</a> announces that <a href="/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces" title="Israel Defense Forces">Israel Defense Forces</a> will remain on the Syrian side of <a href="/wiki/Mount_Hermon" title="Mount Hermon">Mount Hermon</a> indefinitely, apparently backtracking on repeated assurances from Israel that the move was temporary. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/defense-minister-in-syria-buffer-zone-says-idf-to-stay-indefinitely/">(<i>Times of Israel</i>)</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-army-stay-jenin-syria-defence-minister">(<i>Middle East Eye</i>)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/War_against_the_Islamic_State" title="War against the Islamic State">War against the Islamic State</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Somali_Civil_War_(2009%E2%80%93present)" title="Somali Civil War (2009–present)">War in Somalia</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Islamic_State_insurgency_in_Puntland" title="Islamic State insurgency in Puntland">Islamic State insurgency in Puntland</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Puntland" title="Puntland">Puntland</a> authorities ban illegal foreign entries and direct telecom firms to deactivate <a href="/wiki/SIM_card" title="SIM card">SIM cards</a> linked to undocumented individuals and <a href="/wiki/Islamic_State_%E2%80%93_Somalia_Province" title="Islamic State – Somalia Province">Islamic State</a> operatives, aiming to disrupt the group's financial networks amidst ongoing anti-IS offensives by <a href="/wiki/Puntland_Security_Force" title="Puntland Security Force">Puntland forces</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.voanews.com/a/puntland-blocks-illegal-entry-of-foreigners-in-is-crackdown/7953395.html">(VOA)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.garoweonline.com/en/news/puntland/somalia-puntland-crackdown-targets-isis-linked-foreigners">(Garowe)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://dtm.iom.int/reports/somalia-border-point-flow-monitoring-november-2024">(IOM)</a></li> <li>Puntland's highest military court sentences two <a href="/wiki/Influencer" title="Influencer">influencers</a> to prison terms <i><a href="/wiki/Trial_in_absentia" title="Trial in absentia">in absentia</a></i> for promoting Islamic State propaganda and spreading disinformation intended at discrediting <a href="/wiki/Puntland_Dervish_Force" title="Puntland Dervish Force">Puntland forces</a>' ongoing operations. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2025/Jan/199996/puntland_sentences_two_social_media_influencers_for_supporting_isis.aspx">(Hiiraan Online)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.idilnews.com/puntland-military-court-sentences-two-men-for-promoting-isis-propaganda/">(Idil News)</a></li> <li>At least four civilians are killed in an airstrike by an unknown <a href="/wiki/Drone_warfare" title="Drone warfare">combat drone</a> in the Sihan area of <a href="/wiki/Qandala_District" title="Qandala District">Qandala district</a> in Puntland's <a href="/wiki/Bari_Region" class="mw-redirect" title="Bari Region">Bari region</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.garoweonline.com/en/news/puntland/somalia-an-airstrike-kills-four-civilians-from-the-same-family-in-puntland">(Garowe Online)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2025/Jan/199995/unidentified_drone_strike_kills_four_civilians_near_isis_stronghold_in_bari_region.aspx">(Hiiraan Online)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Kivu_conflict" title="Kivu conflict">Kivu conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/M23_offensive_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="M23 offensive (2022–present)">M23 offensive</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Goma_(2025)" class="mw-redirect" title="Battle of Goma (2025)">Battle of Goma</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/March_23_Movement" title="March 23 Movement">M23</a> rebels take full control of <a href="/wiki/Goma_International_Airport" title="Goma International Airport">Goma International Airport</a>, according to senior diplomatic and <a href="/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo" title="Democratic Republic of the Congo">Congolese</a> security officials. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/congos-m23-rebels-control-goma-airport-diplomatic-security-sources-say-2025-01-28/">(Reuters)</a></li> <li>Four more <a href="/wiki/South_Africa" title="South Africa">South African</a> <a href="/wiki/Peacekeeping" title="Peacekeeping">peacekeepers</a> are killed after M23 forces launch a <a href="/wiki/Mortar_(weapon)" title="Mortar (weapon)">mortar attack</a> on their position at Goma Airport, bringing the total number of foreign peacekeepers killed in recent clashes to 17. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aa.com.tr/en/africa/death-toll-among-peacekeepers-climbs-to-17-in-eastern-democratic-republic-of-congo/3464337">(Anadolu Ajansi)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Ministry_of_Foreign_Affairs_and_Cooperation_(Rwanda)" title="Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Cooperation (Rwanda)">Rwandan Foreign Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Olivier_Nduhungirehe" title="Olivier Nduhungirehe">Olivier Nduhungirehe</a> says <a href="/wiki/President_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo" title="President of the Democratic Republic of the Congo">Congolese president</a> <a href="/wiki/F%C3%A9lix_Tshisekedi" title="Félix Tshisekedi">Félix Tshisekedi</a> "will have to accept talks with M23 to end the situation once and for all". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://thehill.com/homenews/ap/ap-international/ap-congos-forces-try-to-slow-rwanda-backed-rebels-in-the-east-as-protests-break-out-in-the-capital/">(<i>The Hill</i>)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2025_Kinshasa_riots" title="2025 Kinshasa riots">2025 Kinshasa riots</a> <ul><li>Mass <a href="/wiki/Riot" title="Riot">rioting</a> takes place in <a href="/wiki/Kinshasa" title="Kinshasa">Kinshasa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo" title="Democratic Republic of the Congo">Democratic Republic of the Congo</a>, amid public outrage over the loss of <a href="/wiki/Goma" title="Goma">Goma</a> to <a href="/wiki/Rwanda" title="Rwanda">Rwandan</a>-backed rebels. Multiple embassies are stormed and attacked by anti-government protesters, including the embassies of <a href="/wiki/France" title="France">France</a>, <a href="/wiki/Rwanda" title="Rwanda">Rwanda</a> and <a href="/wiki/Uganda" title="Uganda">Uganda</a>. Widespread <a href="/wiki/Looting" title="Looting">looting</a> is also reported in the capital. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/congo-protesters-attack-kinshasa-embassies-over-conflict-east-2025-01-28/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Gaza_war" title="Gaza war">Gaza war</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Gaza_humanitarian_crisis_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Gaza humanitarian crisis (2023–present)">Gaza humanitarian crisis</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israel</a> announces it will cease all contact with the <a href="/wiki/United_Nations" title="United Nations">United Nations</a> relief agency for <a href="/wiki/Palestinians" title="Palestinians">Palestinians</a>, <a href="/wiki/UNRWA" title="UNRWA">UNRWA</a>, after a ban on the organization's work on <a href="/wiki/Borders_of_Israel" title="Borders of Israel">Israeli territory</a> goes into effect on January 30. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/israel-to-cease-all-contact-with-unrwa-aid-agency/a-71439020">(DW)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Insurgency_in_Balochistan" title="Insurgency in Balochistan">Insurgency in Balochistan</a> <ul><li>Two <a href="/wiki/Pakistan_Army" title="Pakistan Army">Pakistan Army</a> soldiers and five insurgents are killed in a <a href="/wiki/Shootout" title="Shootout">shootout</a> in <a href="/wiki/Killa_Abdullah_District" title="Killa Abdullah District">Killa Abdullah District</a>, <a href="/wiki/Balochistan,_Pakistan" title="Balochistan, Pakistan">Balochistan, Pakistan</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/pakistan-militant-attack-security-post-balochistan-878ecfcbaf2174a672049b09226814c8">(AP)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Business and economy</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/German_economic_crisis_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="German economic crisis (2022–present)">German economic crisis</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Ver.di" title="Ver.di">Verdi</a>, <a href="/wiki/Germany" title="Germany">Germany</a>'s second-largest <a href="/wiki/Trade_union" title="Trade union">trade union</a>, calls for a one-day <a href="/wiki/Labor_strike" class="mw-redirect" title="Labor strike">labor strike</a> for workers at <a href="/wiki/Logistics" title="Logistics">logistics</a> and <a href="/wiki/Courier" title="Courier">courier</a> company <a href="/wiki/DHL" title="DHL">DHL</a>, which also manages <a href="/wiki/Deutsche_Post" title="Deutsche Post">Deutsche Post</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/germany-verdi-union-calls-dhl-strike/a-71431352">(DW)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Disasters and accidents</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Air_Busan_Flight_391" title="Air Busan Flight 391">Air Busan Flight 391</a> <ul><li>Seven people are injured when an <a href="/wiki/Air_Busan" title="Air Busan">Air Busan</a> <a href="/wiki/Airbus_A321-200" class="mw-redirect" title="Airbus A321-200">Airbus A321-200</a> aircraft catches fire before <a href="/wiki/Takeoff" title="Takeoff">taking off</a> from <a href="/wiki/Gimhae_International_Airport" title="Gimhae International Airport">Gimhae International Airport</a> in <a href="/wiki/Busan" title="Busan">Busan</a>, <a href="/wiki/South_Korea" title="South Korea">South Korea</a>. All 169 people on board are evacuated from the aircraft. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10408402">(<i>Korea Herald</i>)</a></li></ul></li> <li>A <a href="/wiki/United_States_Air_Force" title="United States Air Force">United States Air Force</a> <a href="/wiki/F-35" class="mw-redirect" title="F-35">F-35</a> pilot ejects during a crash at <a href="/wiki/Eielson_Air_Force_Base" title="Eielson Air Force Base">Eielson Air Force Base</a> in <a href="/wiki/Fairbanks,_Alaska" title="Fairbanks, Alaska">Fairbanks</a>, <a href="/wiki/Alaska" title="Alaska">Alaska</a>, United States. The aircraft is destroyed. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/f35-fighter-jet-crash-alaska-air-force-base/">(CBS News)</a></li></ul> <p><b>Law and crime</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Drents_Museum_heist" title="2025 Drents Museum heist">2025 Drents Museum heist</a> <ul><li>Following the heist of multiple <a href="/wiki/Dacians" title="Dacians">Dacian</a> artifacts last Saturday at the <a href="/wiki/Drents_Museum" title="Drents Museum">Drents Museum</a> in <a href="/wiki/Assen" title="Assen">Assen</a>, <a href="/wiki/Netherlands" title="Netherlands">Netherlands</a>, Romanian <a href="/wiki/Ministry_of_Culture_(Romania)" title="Ministry of Culture (Romania)">Minister of Culture</a> <a href="/wiki/Lucian_Roma%C8%99canu" title="Lucian Romașcanu">Lucian Romașcanu</a> fires the director of the <a href="/wiki/National_History_Museum_of_Romania" title="National History Museum of Romania">National History Museum of Romania</a> in <a href="/wiki/Bucharest" title="Bucharest">Bucharest</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://nos.nl/artikel/2553649-verdachten-kunstroof-komen-uit-noord-holland-directeur-roemeens-museum-ontslagen">(NOS)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Censorship_in_Pakistan" title="Censorship in Pakistan">Censorship in Pakistan</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Senate_of_Pakistan" title="Senate of Pakistan">Senate of Pakistan</a> passes a bill to criminalize the spread of <a href="/wiki/Disinformation" title="Disinformation">disinformation</a> in <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a>, with the possibility of up to 3 years imprisonment and fines of up to <a href="/wiki/Pakistani_rupee" title="Pakistani rupee">Rs.</a> 2 million (US$7,121). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/pakistan-social-media-fake-news-law/a-71433026">(DW)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Kyoto_Animation_arson_attack" title="Kyoto Animation arson attack">Kyoto Animation arson attack</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Kyoto" title="Kyoto">Kyoto</a> <a href="/wiki/Public_Prosecutors_Office_(Japan)#District_Public_Prosecutors_Office" title="Public Prosecutors Office (Japan)">District Court</a> finalizes the <a href="/wiki/Death_sentence" class="mw-redirect" title="Death sentence">death sentence</a> for <a href="/wiki/Kyoto_Animation_arson_attack#Perpetrator" title="Kyoto Animation arson attack">Shinji Aoba</a>, the perpetrator of the <a href="/wiki/Arson" title="Arson">arson</a> attack on a <a href="/wiki/Kyoto_Animation" title="Kyoto Animation">Kyoto Animation</a> studio in 2019, after he withdraws his appeal to the court's ruling. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/01/28/japan/crime-legal/kyoani-death-penalty-finalized/">(<i>The Japan Times</i>)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Three people, including the perpetrator, are killed and two police officers are injured in a <a href="/wiki/Mass_shooting" title="Mass shooting">mass shooting</a> at a <a href="/wiki/Spartan_Nash#Retail_chains" class="mw-redirect" title="Spartan Nash">Martin's Supermarket</a> in <a href="/wiki/Elkhart,_Indiana" title="Elkhart, Indiana">Elkhart</a>, <a href="/wiki/Indiana" title="Indiana">Indiana</a>, United States. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/grocery-store-shooting-police-elkhart-indiana-92f58b0f4dce09296dab6e5e80431735">(AP News)</a></li></ul> <p><b>Politics and elections</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024%E2%80%932025_Serbian_anti-corruption_protests" title="2024–2025 Serbian anti-corruption protests">2024–2025 Serbian anti-corruption protests</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Serbia" title="Serbia">Serbian</a> <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Serbia" title="Prime Minister of Serbia">prime minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Milo%C5%A1_Vu%C4%8Devi%C4%87" title="Miloš Vučević">Miloš Vučević</a> resigns following protests prompted by the <a href="/wiki/Novi_Sad_railway_station_canopy_collapse" title="Novi Sad railway station canopy collapse">Novi Sad railway station canopy collapse</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1m5x1j3p2yo">(BBC)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2025_Ontario_general_election" title="2025 Ontario general election">2025 Ontario general election</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Premier_of_Ontario" title="Premier of Ontario">Ontario Premier</a> <a href="/wiki/Doug_Ford" title="Doug Ford">Doug Ford</a> announces that a new general election in the <a href="/wiki/Provinces_and_territories_of_Canada" title="Provinces and territories of Canada">Canadian province</a> of <a href="/wiki/Ontario" title="Ontario">Ontario</a> will be held on February 27, 2025. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadas-most-populous-province-ontario-vote-feb-27-2025-01-28/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Second_presidency_of_Donald_Trump" title="Second presidency of Donald Trump">Second presidency of Donald Trump</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> <a href="/wiki/United_States_federal_judge" title="United States federal judge">federal judge</a> <a href="/wiki/Loren_AliKhan" title="Loren AliKhan">Loren AliKhan</a> temporarily blocks <a href="/wiki/President_of_the_United_States" title="President of the United States">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Donald_Trump" title="Donald Trump">Donald Trump</a>'s <a href="/wiki/List_of_executive_orders_in_the_second_presidency_of_Donald_Trump" title="List of executive orders in the second presidency of Donald Trump">executive order</a> to pause funding for <a href="/wiki/Administration_of_federal_assistance_in_the_United_States" title="Administration of federal assistance in the United States">federal assistance</a> in the country. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/us-judge-temporarily-blocks-trumps-freeze-on-federal-aid/a-71440078">(DW)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-pause-federal-grants-aid-f9948b9996c0ca971f0065fac85737ce">(AP)</a></li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> <a href="/wiki/United_States_Office_of_Personnel_Management" title="United States Office of Personnel Management">Office of Personnel Management</a> offers a "deferred resignation" scheme to the 2 million federal government employees to announce their resignation by February 6, while stating that employees who resigned would still receive salary and benefits until September 30, 2025. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.opm.gov/fork">(OPM)</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.opm.gov/fork/faq">(OPM FAQ)</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-offers-incentives-federal-employees-resign-warns-downsizing-2025-01-28/">(Reuters)</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://federalnewsnetwork.com/workforce/2025/01/trump-administration-offers-most-feds-deferred-resignation-if-they-quit-by-next-week/">(FNN)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Science and technology</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Doomsday_Clock" title="Doomsday Clock">Doomsday Clock</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Bulletin_of_the_Atomic_Scientists" title="Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists">Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists</a> announces that the Doomsday Clock has been moved up to 89 seconds before midnight. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/atomic-scientists-adjust-doomsday-clock-closer-than-ever-midnight-2025-01-28/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2025_in_aviation" title="2025 in aviation">2025 in aviation</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Boom_Technology" title="Boom Technology">Boom Technology</a>'s <a href="/wiki/Boom_XB-1" title="Boom XB-1">XB-1</a> <a href="/wiki/Trijet" title="Trijet">trijet</a> supersonic demonstrator becomes the first privately-funded jet-powered plane to break the <a href="/wiki/Speed_of_sound" title="Speed of sound">sound barrier</a> at <a href="/wiki/Mojave_Air_and_Space_Port" title="Mojave Air and Space Port">Mojave Air and Space Port</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boom-supersonic-xb-1-breaks-sound-barrier-over-mojave-desert-2025-01-28/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Google" title="Google">Google</a> confirms that it will rename the <a href="/wiki/Gulf_of_Mexico" title="Gulf of Mexico">Gulf of Mexico</a> to <i>Gulf of America</i> on <a href="/wiki/Google_Maps" title="Google Maps">Google Maps</a> for US users in line with the official position of the <a href="/wiki/Second_presidency_of_Donald_Trump" title="Second presidency of Donald Trump">Trump administration</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/28/google-maps-will-rename-gulf-of-mexico-as-gulf-of-america-in-us">(<i>The Guardian</i>)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Bluesky" title="Bluesky">Bluesky</a> announces that it has reached a milestone of 30 million users. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theverge.com/news/602049/bluesky-now-has-30-million-users">(<i>The Verge</i>)</a></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud-January_28-20250129153700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RD:_Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud-January_28-20250129153700"></span>RD: Muhammad bin Fahd Al Saud<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RD:_Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud-January_28-20250129153700"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: RD: Muhammad bin Fahd Al Saud"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D-20250129153700-RD:_Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud" title="Muhammad bin Fahd Al Saud">Muhammad bin Fahd Al Saud</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud" title="Talk:Muhammad bin Fahd Al Saud">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Muhammad+bin+Fahd+Al+Saud">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://english.aawsat.com/gulf/5106339-prince-mohammed-bin-fahd-passes-away-key-figure-eastern-saudi-development">Asharq Alawsat</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D (page does not exist)">240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D" title="User talk:240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BMuhammad+bin+Fahd+Al+Saud%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Muhammad+bin+Fahd+Al+Saud&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Mohamad_Darilin" title="User:Mohamad Darilin">Mohamad Darilin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mohamad_Darilin" title="User talk:Mohamad Darilin">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mohamad_Darilin&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BMuhammad+bin+Fahd+Al+Saud%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Muhammad+bin+Fahd+Al+Saud&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Saudi prince and governor of Eastern Province. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D" title="Special:Contributions/240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D">240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D" title="User talk:240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D-20250129153700-RD:_Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D-20250129153700-RD:_Muhammad_bin_Fahd_Al_Saud"><span 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href="/wiki/User_talk:Yo.dazo" title="User talk:Yo.dazo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Yo.dazo-20250129154700-240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D-20250129153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yo.dazo-20250129154700-240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D-20250129153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129154700","author":"Yo.dazo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yo.dazo-20250129154700-240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D-20250129153700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yo.dazo-20250129154700-240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D-20250129153700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090200-240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D-20250129153700"></span>Oppose!</b> Stubby article, could be expanded and sourced with sources available on Arabic article with translation. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090200-240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D-20250129153700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:02, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090200-240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D-20250129153700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130090200","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090200-240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D-20250129153700","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250130090200-240F:7A:6253:1:683C:F9E5:E842:477D-20250129153700"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic-January_28-20250129132400"><span id=".28Closed.29_XB-1_Supersonic"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic-January_28-20250129132400"></span>(Closed) XB-1 Supersonic<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic-January_28-20250129132400"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: (Closed) XB-1 Supersonic"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aydoh8-20250130001400-(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Consensus to post will not develop. <a href="/wiki/User:Aydoh8" title="User:Aydoh8">Aydo</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aydoh8" title="User talk:Aydoh8">h8</a><sup><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Aydoh8" title="Special:Contributions/Aydoh8">[contribs]</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Aydoh8-20250130001400-(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:14, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aydoh8-20250130001400-(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130001400","author":"Aydoh8","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aydoh8-20250130001400-(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic","replies":[],"displayName":"Aydo"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aydoh8-20250130001400-(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic"></span></div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250129132400-(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic"></span>The following discussion is closed. <strong style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</strong> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </p> </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 194px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Boom_XB-1_Lands_on_March_22,_2024.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Boom_XB-1_Lands_on_March_22%2C_2024.png/194px-Boom_XB-1_Lands_on_March_22%2C_2024.png" decoding="async" width="194" height="101" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Boom_XB-1_Lands_on_March_22%2C_2024.png/291px-Boom_XB-1_Lands_on_March_22%2C_2024.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Boom_XB-1_Lands_on_March_22%2C_2024.png/388px-Boom_XB-1_Lands_on_March_22%2C_2024.png 2x" data-file-width="1245" data-file-height="647"/></a></span></div> </div><b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Boom_XB-1"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Boom_XB-1"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Boom_XB-1" title="Boom XB-1">Boom XB-1</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Boom_XB-1" title="Talk:Boom XB-1">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Boom_XB-1&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Boom_XB-1&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Boom+XB-1">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> <a href="/wiki/Boom_Technology" title="Boom Technology">Boom Technology</a>'s <b><a href="/wiki/Boom_XB-1" title="Boom XB-1">XB-1</a></b> <a href="/wiki/Trijet" title="Trijet">trijet</a> </i>(pictured)<i> becomes the first private <a href="/wiki/Jet_aircraft" title="Jet aircraft">jet aircraft</a> to break the <a href="/wiki/Sound_barrier" title="Sound barrier">sound barrier</a>. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boom-supersonic-xb-1-breaks-sound-barrier-over-mojave-desert-2025-01-28/">Reuters</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArionStar&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BBoom+XB-1%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Boom+XB-1&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div></div> <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250129132400-(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250129132400-(Closed)_XB-1_Supersonic"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129135700-ArionStar-20250129132400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129135700-ArionStar-20250129132400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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I'd support if the jet starts to be used in commercial settings. <a href="/wiki/User:Ca" title="User:Ca">Ca</a> <i><sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ca" title="User talk:Ca">talk to me!</a></sup></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ca-20250129140100-ArionStar-20250129132400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ca-20250129140100-ArionStar-20250129132400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129140100","author":"Ca","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ca-20250129140100-ArionStar-20250129132400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ca-20250129140100-ArionStar-20250129132400"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_gigs-20250129142300-ArionStar-20250129132400"></span>Oppose</b> - One could argue that their claim as the first private aircraft to go supersonic <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://aviationweek.com/shownews/nbaa/dont-try-home-going-supersonic-global">isn't even true</a>. Regardless, supersonic flight happens all the time so I don't think this is significant enough for the front page, even if it is rare for a civilian to achieve it nowadays. <small> ✈</small> <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20250129142300-ArionStar-20250129132400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:23, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_gigs-20250129142300-ArionStar-20250129132400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129142300","author":"Mike gigs","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_gigs-20250129142300-ArionStar-20250129132400","replies":[],"displayName":"mike_gigs"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_gigs-20250129142300-ArionStar-20250129132400"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250129145200-ArionStar-20250129132400"></span>Oppose</b> - As noted by Ca and mike_gigs, the claim in the headline isn't true. And as I've argued in spaceflight nominations in the past, ownership isn't a useful determiner - it makes no difference to the engineering whether something is private or not. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GenevieveDEon-20250129145200-ArionStar-20250129132400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250129145200-ArionStar-20250129132400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129145200","author":"GenevieveDEon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GenevieveDEon-20250129145200-ArionStar-20250129132400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenevieveDEon-20250129145200-ArionStar-20250129132400"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250129181000-ArionStar-20250129132400"></span>Oppose</b> per above. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250129181000-ArionStar-20250129132400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250129181000-ArionStar-20250129132400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129181000","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250129181000-ArionStar-20250129132400","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250129181000-ArionStar-20250129132400"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Modest_Genius-20250129191300-ArionStar-20250129132400"></span>Oppose</b>. It's interesting that a startup thinks they can revive the supersonic travel market, but this is just a test airframe not a passenger jet. If/when passenger service is introduced, I think that would be worth posting in ITN. Testing steps along the way aren't enough IMO. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius"><b style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: maroon;">Modest Genius</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius"><sup>talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20250129191300-ArionStar-20250129132400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Modest_Genius-20250129191300-ArionStar-20250129132400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129191300","author":"Modest Genius","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Modest_Genius-20250129191300-ArionStar-20250129132400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Modest_Genius-20250129191300-ArionStar-20250129132400"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250129200000-ArionStar-20250129132400"></span>Suggest SNOW close</b> It's clear consensus to post to the Main Page is not going to develop. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250129200000-ArionStar-20250129132400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250129200000-ArionStar-20250129132400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129200000","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250129200000-ArionStar-20250129132400","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250129200000-ArionStar-20250129132400"></span></li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Miloš_Vučević_resignation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Miloš_Vučević_resignation-January_28-20250128122000"><span id="Milo.C5.A1_Vu.C4.8Devi.C4.87_resignation"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Miloš_Vučević_resignation-January_28-20250128122000"></span>Miloš Vučević resignation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Miloš_Vučević_resignation-January_28-20250128122000"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Miloš Vučević resignation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250128122000-Miloš_Vučević_resignation"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 123px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Milo%C5%A1_Vu%C4%8Devi%C4%87_(53965807723).jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Milo%C5%A1_Vu%C4%8Devi%C4%87_%2853965807723%29.jpg/123px-Milo%C5%A1_Vu%C4%8Devi%C4%87_%2853965807723%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="123" height="160" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Milo%C5%A1_Vu%C4%8Devi%C4%87_%2853965807723%29.jpg/185px-Milo%C5%A1_Vu%C4%8Devi%C4%87_%2853965807723%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Milo%C5%A1_Vu%C4%8Devi%C4%87_%2853965807723%29.jpg/246px-Milo%C5%A1_Vu%C4%8Devi%C4%87_%2853965807723%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="618" data-file-height="804"/></a></span></div> </div><b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="2024–2025_Serbian_anti-corruption_protests"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_2024–2025_Serbian_anti-corruption_protests"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/2024%E2%80%932025_Serbian_anti-corruption_protests" title="2024–2025 Serbian anti-corruption protests">2024–2025 Serbian anti-corruption protests</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024%E2%80%932025_Serbian_anti-corruption_protests" title="Talk:2024–2025 Serbian anti-corruption protests">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024%E2%80%932025_Serbian_anti-corruption_protests&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024%E2%80%932025_Serbian_anti-corruption_protests&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024%E2%80%932025+Serbian+anti-corruption+protests">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> <b><a href="/wiki/Milo%C5%A1_Vu%C4%8Devi%C4%87" title="Miloš Vučević">Miloš Vučević</a></b> </i>(pictured)<i> resigns as <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Serbia" title="Prime Minister of Serbia">prime minister of Serbia</a> following <a href="/wiki/2024%E2%80%932025_Serbian_anti-corruption_protests" title="2024–2025 Serbian anti-corruption protests"><b>anti-corruption protests</b></a> over the <a href="/wiki/Novi_Sad_railway_station_canopy_collapse" title="Novi Sad railway station canopy collapse">Novi Sad railway station canopy collapse</a>. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1m5x1j3p2yo">BBC</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArionStar&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024%E2%80%932025+Serbian+anti-corruption+protests%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024%E2%80%932025+Serbian+anti-corruption+protests&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div></div><p>Nominator's comments: <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250128022200-ExclusiveEditor-20250127202000">I aimed at Slovak Robert Fico, but I hit Serbian Vucevic</a>. 😂 <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250128122000-Miloš_Vučević_resignation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250128122000-Miloš_Vučević_resignation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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I have not yet checked article quality. <a href="/wiki/User:Toadspike" title="User:Toadspike"><span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant: small-caps;font-weight:bold;"><b>Toadspike</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toadspike" title="User talk:Toadspike"><span style="color:#21a81e;font-variant: small-caps;font-weight:bold;">[Talk]</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Toadspike-20250128124800-ArionStar-20250128122000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:48, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Toadspike-20250128124800-ArionStar-20250128122000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128124800","author":"Toadspike","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Toadspike-20250128124800-ArionStar-20250128122000","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250128125200-Toadspike-20250128124800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Toadspike-20250128124800-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250128125200-Toadspike-20250128124800"></span>It's good enough. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250128125200-Toadspike-20250128124800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:52, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250128125200-Toadspike-20250128124800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128125200","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250128125200-Toadspike-20250128124800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250128125200-Toadspike-20250128124800"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250128130100-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span>I think this is an ITNR, or at least half of it, given that the PM of Serbia is marked green on that table (eg PM holds the power of the executive) <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250128130100-ArionStar-20250128122000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250128130100-ArionStar-20250128122000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128130100","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Masem-20250128130100-ArionStar-20250128122000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250128130100-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128185000-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span>Oppose</b> The nominated article has nothing about the resignation in its lead and the body of the article is mostly <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROSELINE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROSELINE">WP:PROSELINE</a>. As we have already posted the collapse, it seems best to wait until a new PM is appointed.</li></ul> <dl><dd>Looking further at this, I notice that the resignation has to be confirmed by the Parliament to be effective and that hasn't happened yet. I also get the impression that the President Vucic is an autocrat and target of the protests while the PM is just a scapegoat.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128185000-ArionStar-20250128122000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128185000-ArionStar-20250128122000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128185000","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128185000-ArionStar-20250128122000","replies":[],"displayName":"Andrew"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128185000-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128142500-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span>Comment</b> Should this be posted, or appointment of a new PM? It depends on if this news, that a protest over lack of accountability leads to resignation, notable enough in itself to warrant a blurb. Because we are going to post appointment of new PM anyway in case this is not posted. --<a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128142500-ArionStar-20250128122000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:25, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128142500-ArionStar-20250128122000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128142500","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128142500-ArionStar-20250128122000","replies":["c-Yo.dazo-20250128162600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128142500"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128142500-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yo.dazo-20250128162600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128142500"></span>This came up during Trudeau's announcement too. In most parliamentary democracies, a PM resignation generally triggers a weeks/months-long party leadership election, which gets heavily covered by news sources from start to finish. Only the end of that leadership election currently counts as ITN/R <i>but</i> I think it would be strange of us to hold off posting a blurb for potentially months just because of a technicality with the guidelines. <a href="/wiki/User:Yo.dazo" title="User:Yo.dazo">Yo.dazo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yo.dazo" title="User talk:Yo.dazo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Yo.dazo-20250128162600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128142500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yo.dazo-20250128162600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128142500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:26, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250128142600-ArionStar-20250128122000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128142600","author":"Kiril Simeonovski","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250128142600-ArionStar-20250128122000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250128142600-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EF5-20250128175700-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span>Comment:</b> I've added a {{lead too short}} template to <a href="/wiki/Novi_Sad_railway_station_canopy_collapse" title="Novi Sad railway station canopy collapse">Novi Sad railway station canopy collapse</a>, that should be resolved. <a href="/wiki/User:EF5" title="User:EF5"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>E</b></span></a><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:EF5" title="User talk:EF5"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>F</b></span></a></sub><sup><a href="/wiki/User:EF5/Creations" title="User:EF5/Creations"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>5</b></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-EF5-20250128175700-ArionStar-20250128122000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:57, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EF5-20250128175700-ArionStar-20250128122000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250128190700-EF5-20250128175700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128190700","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Stephen-20250128190700-EF5-20250128175700","replies":[],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20250128190700-EF5-20250128175700"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EF5-20250128190900-EF5-20250128175700"></span>Yes, but it'd still be nice to have a non-tagged article on the front page, assuming this gets posted. <a href="/wiki/User:EF5" title="User:EF5"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>E</b></span></a><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:EF5" title="User talk:EF5"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>F</b></span></a></sub><sup><a href="/wiki/User:EF5/Creations" title="User:EF5/Creations"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>5</b></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-EF5-20250128190900-EF5-20250128175700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EF5-20250128190900-EF5-20250128175700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128190900","author":"EF5","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-EF5-20250128190900-EF5-20250128175700","replies":[],"displayName":"E"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EF5-20250128190900-EF5-20250128175700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vacant0-20250128183100-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span>Oppose</b> The protests article in its current state is disastrous. I've placed a cleanup tag, but it was swiftly removed from the article for unknown reasons. <a href="/wiki/2023_Serbian_election_protests" title="2023 Serbian election protests">2023 Serbian election protests</a> is a good example of how an (good) article related to protests should look like. Vučević's article is also rather short and contains little information related to his premiership. This is definitely a significant move that has been covered by international media, but the two bolded blurbed articles are in poor quality at the moment to be posted on ITN. <a href="/wiki/User:Vacant0" title="User:Vacant0"><span style="color:#5E9A4A;font-weight:bold">Vacant</span><span style="color:#A24B4B;font-weight:bold">0</span></a> <span style="font-size:small">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vacant0" title="User talk:Vacant0">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vacant0" title="Special:Contributions/Vacant0">contribs</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Vacant0-20250128183100-ArionStar-20250128122000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vacant0-20250128183100-ArionStar-20250128122000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128183100","author":"Vacant0","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vacant0-20250128183100-ArionStar-20250128122000","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128184000-Vacant0-20250128183100","c-Vacant0-20250131171500-Vacant0-20250128183100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vacant0-20250128183100-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128184000-Vacant0-20250128183100"></span>It was removed because there was nothing on talk page. You may reinstate it citing this on the talk page. -<a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128184000-Vacant0-20250128183100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128184000-Vacant0-20250128183100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128184000","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128184000-Vacant0-20250128183100","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128184000-Vacant0-20250128183100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vacant0-20250131171500-Vacant0-20250128183100"></span>Another comment. Vučević's resignation has to be acknowledged first by the National Assembly, therefore he would remain in office until then but as acting prime minister. We do not know when this will be, considering that the session of the National Assembly that was supposed to start on Wednesday has been postponed indefinitely. The articles are still not ready, the protests article is filled with many unreliable references and its prose needs to be cleaned up completely. <a href="/wiki/User:Vacant0" title="User:Vacant0"><span style="color:#5E9A4A;font-weight:bold">Vacant</span><span style="color:#A24B4B;font-weight:bold">0</span></a> <span style="font-size:small">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vacant0" title="User talk:Vacant0">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vacant0" title="Special:Contributions/Vacant0">contribs</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Vacant0-20250131171500-Vacant0-20250128183100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:15, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vacant0-20250131171500-Vacant0-20250128183100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131171500","author":"Vacant0","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Vacant0-20250131171500-Vacant0-20250128183100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vacant0-20250131171500-Vacant0-20250128183100"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JordanJames9209-20250129050800-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span>Support</b> as per Kiril Simenovski. <a href="/wiki/User:JordanJames9209" title="User:JordanJames9209">JordanJa🎮es</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JordanJames9209" title="User talk:JordanJames9209">92🐱9</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JordanJames9209-20250129050800-ArionStar-20250128122000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:08, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JordanJames9209-20250129050800-ArionStar-20250128122000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129050800","author":"JordanJames9209","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JordanJames9209-20250129050800-ArionStar-20250128122000","replies":[],"displayName":"JordanJa\ud83c\udfaees"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JordanJames9209-20250129050800-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250129075400-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span>Support on notability</b> per Kiril, but similar to what Vacant said, the article feels too light on details in some spots and too heavy in others - it needs cleanup before hitting the front page. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250129075400-ArionStar-20250128122000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:54, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250129075400-ArionStar-20250128122000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129075400","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250129075400-ArionStar-20250128122000","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250130034300-The_Kip-20250129075400"],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250129075400-ArionStar-20250128122000"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250130034300-The_Kip-20250129075400"></span>Ready?</b> <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250130034300-The_Kip-20250129075400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250130034300-The_Kip-20250129075400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130034300","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250130034300-The_Kip-20250129075400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250130034300-The_Kip-20250129075400"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_DeepSeek" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_DeepSeek-January_28-20250128091900"><span id=".28Closed.29_DeepSeek"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Closed)_DeepSeek-January_28-20250128091900"></span>(Closed) DeepSeek<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Closed)_DeepSeek-January_28-20250128091900"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: (Closed) DeepSeek"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Black_Kite-20250129191100-(Closed)_DeepSeek"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Consensus to post will not develop. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Black_Kite" title="User talk:Black Kite">Black Kite (talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Black_Kite-20250129191100-(Closed)_DeepSeek" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Black_Kite-20250129191100-(Closed)_DeepSeek"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129191100","author":"Black Kite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Black_Kite-20250129191100-(Closed)_DeepSeek","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Black_Kite-20250129191100-(Closed)_DeepSeek"></span></div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900-(Closed)_DeepSeek"></span>The following discussion is closed. <strong style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</strong> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </p> </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="DeepSeek"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_DeepSeek"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/DeepSeek" title="DeepSeek">DeepSeek</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:DeepSeek" title="Talk:DeepSeek">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=DeepSeek&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:DeepSeek&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=DeepSeek">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> A new open-source AI, <b><a href="/wiki/DeepSeek" title="DeepSeek">DeepSeek</a></b>, disrupts the market for AI technology </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>Alternative blurb:</b> <i> The emergence of a new open-source AI, <b><a href="/wiki/DeepSeek" title="DeepSeek">DeepSeek</a></b>, wiped $1tn in value from the leading US tech index </i><br/><b>Alternative blurb II:</b> <i> The open-source LLM <b><a href="/wiki/DeepSeek" title="DeepSeek">DeepSeek</a></b> is released, performing at the same level as ChatGPT for one-tenth of the computing power </i><br/><b>Alternative blurb III:</b> <i> <b><a href="/wiki/DeepSeek" title="DeepSeek">DeepSeek</a></b>, an open-source LLM, tops global <a href="/wiki/App_Store_(Apple)" title="App Store (Apple)">App Store</a> downloads, triggering market reactions </i><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/1/28/why-chinas-ai-startup-deepseek-is-sending-shockwaves-through-global-tech">Al Jazeera</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yv5976z9po">BBC</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul6y2IoRNVI&t=980s">DW</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.economist.com/business/2025/01/27/deepseek-sends-a-shockwave-through-markets">The Economist</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.ft.com/content/674758d7-ffdf-4b88-bb73-f539b56ac4b1">Financial Times</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/28/donald-trump-china-deepseek-ai-chatbot-shares">The Guardian</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/27/deepseek-displaces-chatgpt-as-the-app-stores-top-app/">TechCrunch</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew Davidson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Andrew_Davidson&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BDeepSeek%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=DeepSeek&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:Imcdc" title="User:Imcdc">Imcdc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Imcdc" title="User talk:Imcdc">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Imcdc&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BDeepSeek%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=DeepSeek&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Cosmia_Nebula" title="User:Cosmia Nebula">Cosmia Nebula</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cosmia_Nebula" title="User talk:Cosmia Nebula">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cosmia_Nebula&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BDeepSeek%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=DeepSeek&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Zurkhardo" title="User:Zurkhardo">Zurkhardo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zurkhardo" title="User talk:Zurkhardo">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zurkhardo&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BDeepSeek%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=DeepSeek&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small></div>Nominator's comments: This was the top read article yesterday as it's in the news for several reasons including a cyberattack, market crash and more. It is being compared to the <a href="/wiki/Sputnik_crisis" title="Sputnik crisis">Sputnik crisis</a>. What I find interesting is that it's open source and uses open data like <a href="/wiki/Common_Crawl" title="Common Crawl">Common Crawl</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900-(Closed)_DeepSeek" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900-(Closed)_DeepSeek"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128091900","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900-(Closed)_DeepSeek","replies":["c-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Khuft-20250128121500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Modest_Genius-20250128122700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Masem-20250128125200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Rahcmander-20250128133100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128143100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Chaotic_Enby-20250128152000-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Departure\u2013-20250128152800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128153400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Estreyeria-20250128153600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-EF5-20250128155200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128161700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Serial_Number_54129-20250128162600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Abcmaxx-20250128170000-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Hungry403-20250128164900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Nableezy-20250128165900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Grimes2-20250128170800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-IDB.S-20250128180400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-GenevieveDEon-20250128183600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Gotitbro-20250128184300-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-DarkSide830-20250128184600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-SpectralIon-20250128193900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Mr._Lechkar-20250128195100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Slowking_Man-20250129025700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Flipandflopped-20250129060500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Sportsnut24-20250129124500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Alsoriano97-20250129161200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-The_Kip-20250129181200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","c-Natg_19-20250129183100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"],"displayName":"Andrew"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900-(Closed)_DeepSeek"></span> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Oppose</b> - Once again, Andrew: our own readership levels for particular articles are not, and should not be, a source for what is in the news. While this morning's headlines are flashy, very little has actually happened. This story is 99% <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CRYSTAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CRYSTAL">WP:CRYSTAL</a> stuff. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:08, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128100800","author":"GenevieveDEon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":["c-Cosmia_Nebula-20250128102600-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800","c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128111200-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cosmia_Nebula-20250128102600-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800"></span>Very little of "what" has actually happened? The stock market definitely dropped. All the models definitely got released. The app definitely got No.1 on the Apple app store. CRYSTAL? There's no prophecy in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Cosmia_Nebula" title="User:Cosmia Nebula">pony in a strange land</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cosmia_Nebula" title="User talk:Cosmia Nebula">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Cosmia_Nebula-20250128102600-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:26, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cosmia_Nebula-20250128102600-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128102600","author":"Cosmia Nebula","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cosmia_Nebula-20250128102600-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800","replies":["c-Twistedaxe-20250128103600-Cosmia_Nebula-20250128102600"],"displayName":"pony in a strange land"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cosmia_Nebula-20250128102600-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Twistedaxe-20250128103600-Cosmia_Nebula-20250128102600"></span>The stock market drop is only temporary and it's going to recover sooner than later. This really has no long-term impact, the only long-term impact I can see that this has is that it forces OpenAI and other companies to be less greedy and accept the fact that DeepSeek now exists on the market, but that's pretty much it. I'd argue this falls into <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CRYSTAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CRYSTAL">Wikipedia:CRYSTAL</a>. <span style="font-family: Courier New; background-color: green; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Twistedaxe" title="User:Twistedaxe"><span style="color: yellow">TwistedAxe</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Twistedaxe" title="User talk:Twistedaxe"><span style="color: navy">[contact]</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Twistedaxe-20250128103600-Cosmia_Nebula-20250128102600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:36, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Twistedaxe-20250128103600-Cosmia_Nebula-20250128102600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128103600","author":"Twistedaxe","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Twistedaxe-20250128103600-Cosmia_Nebula-20250128102600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Twistedaxe-20250128103600-Cosmia_Nebula-20250128102600"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128111200-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800"></span>The high readership is evidence that the topic is prominent in the news and the sources confirm this. ITN's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNPURPOSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNPURPOSE">primary purpose</a> is "<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">To help readers find and quickly access content they are likely to be searching for because an item is in the news.</q>" <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128111200-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:12, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128111200-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128111200","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128111200-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800","replies":["c-Masem-20250128125300-Andrew_Davidson-20250128111200"],"displayName":"Andrew"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128111200-GenevieveDEon-20250128100800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250128125300-Andrew_Davidson-20250128111200"></span>If it was a top-read article, that means readers that are interestered are able to find it without ITN's need to help.<span id="Masem:1738068834204:WikipediaFTTCLNIn_the_news/Candidates" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250128125300-Andrew_Davidson-20250128111200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250128125300-Andrew_Davidson-20250128111200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128125300","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Masem-20250128125300-Andrew_Davidson-20250128111200","replies":["c-Khuft-20250128131200-Masem-20250128125300","c-Khuft-20250128131300-Masem-20250128125300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250128125300-Andrew_Davidson-20250128111200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Khuft-20250128131200-Masem-20250128125300"></span>So we shut down ITN? What the purpose of ITN if not to highlight articles readers might be interested in because they've come across them in the news? <a href="/wiki/User:Khuft" title="User:Khuft">Khuft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Khuft" title="User talk:Khuft">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Khuft-20250128131200-Masem-20250128125300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Khuft-20250128131200-Masem-20250128125300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128131200","author":"Khuft","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Khuft-20250128131200-Masem-20250128125300","replies":["c-Masem-20250128131400-Khuft-20250128131200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Khuft-20250128131200-Masem-20250128125300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250128131400-Khuft-20250128131200"></span>ITN is about featuring high quality articles for WP's main page that happen to be in the news, not to be a news ticker to report anything that has happened in the news. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250128131400-Khuft-20250128131200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:14, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250128131400-Khuft-20250128131200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128131400","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Masem-20250128131400-Khuft-20250128131200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250128131400-Khuft-20250128131200"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Khuft-20250128131300-Masem-20250128125300"></span>By the same token, I guess we shouldn't have posted the US presidential elections? <a href="/wiki/User:Khuft" title="User:Khuft">Khuft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Khuft" title="User talk:Khuft">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Khuft-20250128131300-Masem-20250128125300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Khuft-20250128131300-Masem-20250128125300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128131300","author":"Khuft","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Khuft-20250128131300-Masem-20250128125300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Khuft-20250128131300-Masem-20250128125300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Khuft-20250128121500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Strong support</b> I might not always agree with Andrew, but this nomination is spot on. It's major news in mainstream media, and it fulfils the primary objective of ITN: to guide readers to items that are in the news and that they might want to know more about. There's also no WP:CRYSTAL to it - DeepSeek has already upended the American strategy to contain China's technological development. It's in the news everywhere, it's a technological break-through in a key technology, it's a disruption to a key business sector, and it changes the geopolitical game. What more do we want from the articles we feature? <a href="/wiki/User:Khuft" title="User:Khuft">Khuft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Khuft" title="User talk:Khuft">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Khuft-20250128121500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:15, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Khuft-20250128121500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128121500","author":"Khuft","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Khuft-20250128121500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Khuft-20250128121500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Modest_Genius-20250128122700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Oppose</b>. They've announced a decent advance in reducing CPU requirements and power consumption. That's it. This tool hasn't revolutionised anything yet and there hasn't been any third-party verification of the claims. The financial markets have over-reacted based on nothing more than speculation and paranoia among investors who have bet too much on US companies. We wouldn't post an ITN blurb every time an electric vehicle manufacturer brought out a model with improved range or similarly incremental technological advances. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius"><b style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: maroon;">Modest Genius</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius"><sup>talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20250128122700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Modest_Genius-20250128122700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128122700","author":"Modest Genius","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Modest_Genius-20250128122700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":["c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128125600-Modest_Genius-20250128122700","c-Khuft-20250128131000-Modest_Genius-20250128122700","c-Grimes2-20250128155300-Modest_Genius-20250128122700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Modest_Genius-20250128122700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128125600-Modest_Genius-20250128122700"></span>When I saw DeepSeek first reported, the take-away message was that they had created their state-of-the-art AI remarkably cheaply, without needing the billions and trillions of capital that the US was announcing recently. If it's open source too then the barriers to entry in this field seem low – you mainly need a few smart people -- quality not quantity. Lowering the capital cost by orders of magnitude seems quite significant. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128125600-Modest_Genius-20250128122700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128125600-Modest_Genius-20250128122700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128125600","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128125600-Modest_Genius-20250128122700","replies":[],"displayName":"Andrew"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128125600-Modest_Genius-20250128122700"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Khuft-20250128131000-Modest_Genius-20250128122700"></span>For me it's the geopolitical angle that makes this noteworthy. After all those exports bans to restrict China's access to the latests chips, the DeepSeek announcement completely upends that policy. <a href="/wiki/User:Khuft" title="User:Khuft">Khuft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Khuft" title="User talk:Khuft">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Khuft-20250128131000-Modest_Genius-20250128122700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Khuft-20250128131000-Modest_Genius-20250128122700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128131000","author":"Khuft","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Khuft-20250128131000-Modest_Genius-20250128122700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Khuft-20250128131000-Modest_Genius-20250128122700"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grimes2-20250128155300-Modest_Genius-20250128122700"></span>AI accelerators are Nvidia's Graphics processing units (GPU) <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Grimes2-20250128155300-Modest_Genius-20250128122700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grimes2-20250128155300-Modest_Genius-20250128122700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128155300","author":"Grimes2","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Grimes2-20250128155300-Modest_Genius-20250128122700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grimes2-20250128155300-Modest_Genius-20250128122700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250128125200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Oppose</b> Business-level news which is not good for ITN because its based on speculation of long-term impacts. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250128125200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:52, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250128125200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128125200","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Masem-20250128125200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":["c-Khuft-20250128130700-Masem-20250128125200","c-Masem-20250128160700-Masem-20250128125200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250128125200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Khuft-20250128130700-Masem-20250128125200"></span>This is a rather poor argument. What's the long term impact of the Turkish hotel fire? We post things that are in the news (the mainstream news, not just business news - I'll grant you that) and are noteworthy, no matter the topic. Thus we have posted business news in the past. <a href="/wiki/User:Khuft" title="User:Khuft">Khuft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Khuft" title="User talk:Khuft">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Khuft-20250128130700-Masem-20250128125200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:07, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Khuft-20250128130700-Masem-20250128125200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128130700","author":"Khuft","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Khuft-20250128130700-Masem-20250128125200","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Khuft-20250128130700-Masem-20250128125200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250128160700-Masem-20250128125200"></span>At the same time, WP is not a newspaper (that's what Wikinews is for), and at this stage we have no clue how DeepSeek will impact the world on a more long-term basis. I also do think that we post far too many local disasters like that fire and most of those would not survive a proper NOTNEWS/NEVENT challenge made some months after the event (this is a WP-wide problem), but at least it can be argued that the major loss of life in the dozens does account for some permanence to be ITN. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem#top" title="User talk:Masem">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Masem" title="Special:Contributions/Masem">contribs</a>) </small></dd></dl></dd> <dd>To add, Nvidia and others have already rebounded <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.investopedia.com/nvidia-other-ai-focused-stocks-rebound-somewhat-after-monday-s-selloff-8781435">[11]</a>, making this no longer impactful. If there was a long term effect of the stock, that might have been a story, but a short term bounce is definitely not ITN appropriate.<span id="Masem:1738080422369:WikipediaFTTCLNIn_the_news/Candidates" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250128160700-Masem-20250128125200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:07, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250128160700-Masem-20250128125200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128160700","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Masem-20250128160700-Masem-20250128125200","replies":["c-Nableezy-20250128161500-Masem-20250128160700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250128160700-Masem-20250128125200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20250128161500-Masem-20250128160700"></span>NVDA is up 1.82% from yesterday's 17% drop. That isnt a rebound. That was the largest single day decrease in a company's value in history (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/27/nvidia-sheds-almost-600-billion-in-market-cap-biggest-drop-ever.html">600 billion USD</a>). <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20250128161500-Masem-20250128160700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:15, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20250128161500-Masem-20250128160700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128161500","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nableezy-20250128161500-Masem-20250128160700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20250128161500-Masem-20250128160700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rahcmander-20250128133100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Oppose</b> at least with this blurb, "disrupts the market" is too vague and subjective. Even if this was notable enough to be posted the blurb would need something concrete that has happened. <a href="/wiki/User:Rahcmander" title="User:Rahcmander">Rahcmander</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rahcmander" title="User talk:Rahcmander">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rahcmander-20250128133100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:31, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rahcmander-20250128133100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128133100","author":"Rahcmander","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rahcmander-20250128133100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rahcmander-20250128133100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><s><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128143100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Reluctant Oppose</b></s>: DeepSeek deserves to have some time on the main page, but to be on ITN we need it to be on the news. It indeed is, but what blurb are you offering? "<span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">[D]isrupts the market for AI technology</span>", though <i>notable</i>, is not convincing enough. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128143100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128143100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128143100","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128143100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":["c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128151200-ExclusiveEditor-20250128143100"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128143100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128151200-ExclusiveEditor-20250128143100"></span>The blurb seems similar to this recent Reuters headline: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/what-is-deepseek-why-is-it-disrupting-ai-sector-2025-01-27/">What is DeepSeek and why is it disrupting the AI sector?</a>. Other headlines use other words such as crash, freakout, seismic, shock, shockwave, spook, upend, wake-up call and other colourful metaphors. The word "disrupt" seems comparatively sedate and so suitable for our restrained style. If there's a better form of words then feel free to suggest an ALT. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128151200-ExclusiveEditor-20250128143100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128151200-ExclusiveEditor-20250128143100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128151200","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128151200-ExclusiveEditor-20250128143100","replies":[],"displayName":"Andrew"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128151200-ExclusiveEditor-20250128143100"></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chaotic_Enby-20250128152000-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Oppose</b> on current wording, <b>neutral</b> on alt2, still a bit too close to business news. <a href="/wiki/User:Chaotic_Enby" title="User:Chaotic Enby"><span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotic <span style="color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chaotic_Enby" title="User talk:Chaotic Enby">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Chaotic_Enby" title="Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Chaotic_Enby-20250128152000-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chaotic_Enby-20250128152000-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128152000","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20250128152000-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chaotic_Enby-20250128152000-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Departure–-20250128152800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Conditional weak support</b> posting the market impacts if they continue or worsen, <b>strong oppose</b> mentioning DeepSeek in the blurb if so. I don't think this is going anywhere anyway. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20250128152800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Departure–-20250128152800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128152800","author":"Departure\u2013","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Departure\u2013-20250128152800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Departure–-20250128152800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128153400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Support Blurb3</b> by nom <s>or else <b>Oppose</b></s>, includes it wide trend, and impact. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128153400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128153400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128153400","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128153400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":["c-Departure\u2013-20250128153600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128153400"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128153400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Departure–-20250128153600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128153400"></span>I'll add in conjunction with my !vote above that I <b>strong oppose</b> blurb 3 as market impacts are the story. Dominating the app store isn't too important; we shouldn't comparing a global market-shaking event to <a href="/wiki/Flappy_Bird" title="Flappy Bird">Flappy Bird</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20250128153600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Departure–-20250128153600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128153600","author":"Departure\u2013","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Departure\u2013-20250128153600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128153400","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128161900-Departure\u2013-20250128153600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Departure–-20250128153600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128153400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128161900-Departure–-20250128153600"></span>That's just my try to get it voted in, although I believe in the technology more than the markets as stated in comment below. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128161900-Departure–-20250128153600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128161900-Departure–-20250128153600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128161900","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128161900-Departure\u2013-20250128153600","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128161900-Departure–-20250128153600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Estreyeria-20250128153600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Oppose</b> routine business news. No one would even nominate this if it was any other industry. <a href="/wiki/User:Estreyeria" title="User:Estreyeria">Estreyeria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Estreyeria" title="User talk:Estreyeria">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Estreyeria-20250128153600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Estreyeria-20250128153600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128153600","author":"Estreyeria","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Estreyeria-20250128153600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Estreyeria-20250128153600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EF5-20250128155200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Strong oppose</b> - Hasn't every big business in history "disrupted the market"? <a href="/wiki/User:EF5" title="User:EF5"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>E</b></span></a><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:EF5" title="User talk:EF5"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>F</b></span></a></sub><sup><a href="/wiki/User:EF5/Creations" title="User:EF5/Creations"><span style="color:#A188FC;"><b>5</b></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-EF5-20250128155200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EF5-20250128155200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128155200","author":"EF5","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-EF5-20250128155200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071700-EF5-20250128155200"],"displayName":"E"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EF5-20250128155200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071700-EF5-20250128155200"></span>What's the point? There are no countless number of big businesses utilizing technology that disrupted the market on an international scale and caused a global <a href="/wiki/Viral_phenomenon" title="Viral phenomenon">trend</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071700-EF5-20250128155200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:17, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071700-EF5-20250128155200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129071700","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071700-EF5-20250128155200","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071700-EF5-20250128155200"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128161700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Comment</b>: If for anything, DeepSeek deserves to be on Main Page for its technology and the way they managed to do it, not the business. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128161700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128161700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128161700","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128161700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128161700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20250128162600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Strong oppose</b> per WP:PROMO. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">Serial</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">(speculates here)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20250128162600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a>:<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20250128162600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128162600","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20250128162600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128163600-Serial_Number_54129-20250128162600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serial_Number_54129-20250128162600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128163600-Serial_Number_54129-20250128162600"></span>I figure out that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROMO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROMO">WP:PROMO</a> is not necessarily about Wikipedia never promoting anything, but that deliberate promotion is not allowed. Just like information defaming someone/ any organization doesn't stop us from putting it if supported by RS and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DUE">WP:DUE</a>, so does information promoting somebody shouldn't. An example of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPV">WP:NPV</a> from the other side I guess. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128163600-Serial_Number_54129-20250128162600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128163600-Serial_Number_54129-20250128162600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128163600","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128163600-Serial_Number_54129-20250128162600","replies":["c-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128163600"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128163600-Serial_Number_54129-20250128162600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128163600"></span>No. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">Serial</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">(speculates here)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128163600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128163600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128174600","author":"Serial Number 54129","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128163600","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128175200-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071000-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600-ExclusiveEditor-20250128163600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128175200-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600"></span>Then lets make it as non promotional as possible – if we put it. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128175200-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128175200-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128175200","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128175200-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128175200-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071000-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600"></span>I however view my statement as no less correct. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071000-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:10, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071000-Serial_Number_54129-20250128174600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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This is only global headlines because the mass media can't resist reporting on everything the new US president says (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TDS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TDS">WP:TDS</a>). Also, just because lots people downloaded the app isn't an indication of anything (remember the <a href="/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Go" title="Pokémon Go">Pokémon Go</a> craze?) and once people realise you receive Chinese propaganda rather than reliable information especially concerning Tianamen Square, Taiwan, Tibet, East Turkestan and the Spratly Islands the news will die down as quickly as it started, as will the shareholder value. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20250128170000-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abcmaxx-20250128170000-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128170000","author":"Abcmaxx","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Abcmaxx-20250128170000-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128170600-Abcmaxx-20250128170000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abcmaxx-20250128170000-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128170600-Abcmaxx-20250128170000"></span>Who said Mr. President? Not me or anyone here. I am only hearing about what Trump said today, globally many must not even know he said anything over it. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128170600-Abcmaxx-20250128170000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128170600-Abcmaxx-20250128170000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128170600","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128170600-Abcmaxx-20250128170000","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128170600-Abcmaxx-20250128170000"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hungry403-20250128164900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Oppose</b> We shouldn’t be advertising on ITN <a href="/wiki/User:Hungry403" title="User:Hungry403">Hungry403</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hungry403" title="User talk:Hungry403">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Hungry403-20250128164900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hungry403-20250128164900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128164900","author":"Hungry403","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hungry403-20250128164900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hungry403-20250128164900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20250128165900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Comment</b> Id refocus this to the business story, something like <i>Semiconductor and AI related companies shed 1 trillion dollars in value after the release of DeepSeek, with Nvidia recording the largest ever single-day loss in value for a public company</i>, probably too long but something along those lines. See sources such as <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/tech-stock-selloff-deepens-deepseek-triggers-ai-rethink-2025-01-28/">Reuters</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-27/nasdaq-futures-slump-as-china-s-deepseek-sparks-us-tech-concern">Bloomberg</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/27/business/dealbook/deepseek-tech-stocks-reckoning.html">nytimes</a>. A product got released, big whoop. The reaction though is a very widely covered news story, and I dont really get how people treat financial news as somehow less important than some election or sports game. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20250128165900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:59, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20250128165900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128165900","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nableezy-20250128165900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":["c-Imcdc-20250129010800-Nableezy-20250128165900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20250128165900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Imcdc-20250129010800-Nableezy-20250128165900"></span>Yeah you're probably right. Might need to come up with some new blurbs. <a href="/wiki/User:Imcdc" title="User:Imcdc"><b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#40E0D0"> Imcdc</b></a> <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:2px 5px;background:#0151D2;font-size:75%"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Imcdc" title="User talk:Imcdc"><span style="color:#FFF"><b>Contact</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Imcdc-20250129010800-Nableezy-20250128165900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:08, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Imcdc-20250129010800-Nableezy-20250128165900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grimes2-20250128170800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128170800","author":"Grimes2","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grimes2-20250128170800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grimes2-20250128170800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IDB.S-20250128180400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Oppose</b> per above. <~>> <a href="/wiki/User:IDB.S" title="User:IDB.S">IDB.S</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IDB.S" title="User talk:IDB.S">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-IDB.S-20250128180400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:04, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IDB.S-20250128180400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128180400","author":"IDB.S","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-IDB.S-20250128180400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IDB.S-20250128180400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250128183600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Comment</b> re alt3: "Triggering market reactions" is an absolutely useless, virtually content-free phrase to include in a headline. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GenevieveDEon-20250128183600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:36, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250128183600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128183800-GenevieveDEon-20250128183600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128183800-GenevieveDEon-20250128183600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128183800","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128183800-GenevieveDEon-20250128183600","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128183800-GenevieveDEon-20250128183600"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gotitbro-20250128184300-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Oppose</b> The news story isn't about the technology (we have never featured ChatGPT on ITN FWIW), it is about the tech stock market shock. We have not featured such routine financial news unless it has had a broader sustained impact in many a major sectors and I don't see any need to move beyond that now. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20250128184300-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:43, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gotitbro-20250128184300-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128184300","author":"Gotitbro","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gotitbro-20250128184300-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071400-Gotitbro-20250128184300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gotitbro-20250128184300-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071400-Gotitbro-20250128184300"></span>I think saying 'we have never featured ChatGPT' is not a very strong-valid point. We should have, or at least not a thing to pride upon. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071400-Gotitbro-20250128184300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:14, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071400-Gotitbro-20250128184300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129071400","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071400-Gotitbro-20250128184300","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129071400-Gotitbro-20250128184300"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DarkSide830-20250128184600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Support AltIII</b>. This is not just "business news" or even "routine" it's a seismic market shock in the most rapidly growing sector of the economy. Was this a bubble? Almost certainly, but a bubble of this size bursting is pretty darn impactful. <a href="/wiki/User:DarkSide830" title="User:DarkSide830">DarkSide830</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DarkSide830" title="User talk:DarkSide830">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-DarkSide830-20250128184600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DarkSide830-20250128184600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128184600","author":"DarkSide830","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DarkSide830-20250128184600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DarkSide830-20250128184600-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpectralIon-20250128193900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Support</b> although I doubt this will ever be posted considering how many people oppose this. This is literally In The News right now and has already made a huge impact on the global tech industry. I also think that none of the blurbs really highlight everything extraordinary about this. I think the blurb should be something like "DeepSeek, a Chinese open-source LLM, disrupts US tech stocks due to its power and low production budget". --<a href="/wiki/User:SpectralIon" title="User:SpectralIon">Spectral</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpectralIon" title="User talk:SpectralIon">Ion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SpectralIon-20250128193900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpectralIon-20250128193900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128193900","author":"SpectralIon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SpectralIon-20250128193900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[],"displayName":"Spectral"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpectralIon-20250128193900-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr._Lechkar-20250128195100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Oppose</b> per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SNOW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SNOW">WP:SNOW</a>, though this would be better suited for the "Did you know" section. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mr._Lechkar" title="User:Mr. Lechkar">Mr. Lechkar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr._Lechkar" title="User talk:Mr. Lechkar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mr._Lechkar-20250128195100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:51, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr._Lechkar-20250128195100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128195100","author":"Mr. Lechkar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mr._Lechkar-20250128195100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":["c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128231500-Mr._Lechkar-20250128195100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr._Lechkar-20250128195100-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128231500-Mr._Lechkar-20250128195100"></span>It doesn't qualify for DYK which has strict rules for entry and is still over-subscribed, running 9 fresh hooks every day. It does qualify for ITN because it's In the News while ITN badly needs new content as it runs less than one new blurb every other day and so is still reporting something that happened 12 days ago. So, it's ITN that needs nominations, not DYK. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128231500-Mr._Lechkar-20250128195100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:15, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128231500-Mr._Lechkar-20250128195100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128231500","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128231500-Mr._Lechkar-20250128195100","replies":["c-Fakescientist8000-20250128234400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128231500"],"displayName":"Andrew"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128231500-Mr._Lechkar-20250128195100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250128234400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128231500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew Davidson</a> No, ITN doesn't "need new content". Despite the name appearing otherwise, we are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTNEWS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTNEWS">WP:NOTNEWS</a>. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250128234400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128231500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:44, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250128234400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128231500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128234400","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250128234400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128231500","replies":["c-The_Kip-20250129050000-Fakescientist8000-20250128234400"],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250128234400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128231500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250129050000-Fakescientist8000-20250128234400"></span>With all due respect to him, it’s been shown multiple times that the community consensus on what ITN/C is and Andrew’s opinions on what it should be divert considerably. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250129050000-Fakescientist8000-20250128234400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:00, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250129050000-Fakescientist8000-20250128234400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129050000","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250129050000-Fakescientist8000-20250128234400","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250129050000-Fakescientist8000-20250128234400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slowking_Man-20250129025700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Because ITN doesn't run much new content then it is left running old content instead. The few blurbs that get through are run repeatedly day after day when they are no longer actually In the News. This is not a good look. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) 23:53, 28 January 2025 (UTC</li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b>Support</b>, business and computing technology and political news that is, well, In The News. But please none of the breathless hype language (for the love of God please do not put "disrupt" which is marketing <a href="/wiki/Buzzword" title="Buzzword">buzzword</a> crap, on the main page). Keep It Simple, <a href="/wiki/Omit_needless_words" class="mw-redirect" title="Omit needless words">omit needless words</a>: "Chinese company DeepSeek releases its large language model, generating international reaction." The details are what the link to the article is there for. --<a href="/wiki/User:Slowking_Man" title="User:Slowking Man">Slowking Man</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slowking_Man" title="User talk:Slowking Man">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Slowking_Man-20250129025700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:57, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slowking_Man-20250129025700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129025700","author":"Slowking Man","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Slowking_Man-20250129025700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slowking_Man-20250129025700-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Flipandflopped-20250129060500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Support alt2</b> Disagree with the CRYSTAL oppose votes. It's making waves on everything from political discourse to the stock market to mass media headlines. How much more ITN could you get? If anything, the crystal ball reading here are the folks saying, "this won't be any different than any other AI software because x, y, or z"... sorry, but that is irrelevant. It's a major development that is being widely reported. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped"><b style="color:Teal;">Flip</b></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped"><sup style="color:purple">and</sup></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped"><b style="color:lime">Flopped</b></a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"><b style="color:grey"> ツ</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20250129060500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:05, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Flipandflopped-20250129060500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129060500","author":"Flipandflopped","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Flipandflopped-20250129060500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[],"displayName":"Flip"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Flipandflopped-20250129060500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Comment</b>: Editors seem to dislike the blurbs. What are different things based on which the blurb could be formed, taking into account the above discussion? -<a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:08, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129090800","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":["c-Departure\u2013-20250129162900-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090800"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090800-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Departure–-20250129162900-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090800"></span>How about the blurb... <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1244412712">.mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 32px}.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;margin-top:0}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style><blockquote class="templatequote"><p><b><a href="/w/index.php?title=Widespread_technology_sector_selloffs&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Widespread technology sector selloffs (page does not exist)">Widespread technology sector selloffs</a></b> occur following the release of the <a href="/wiki/Deepseek" class="mw-redirect" title="Deepseek">Deepseek</a> model of artificial intelligence.</p></blockquote></dd> <dd>No article exists as a target but one should be made. Deepseek's release prompting mass tech sector selloffs is the story here, not Deepseek itself. I personally hope the entire AI sector collapses from this, it's been nothing but bad news for ordinary people like myself. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20250129162900-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Departure–-20250129162900-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129162900","author":"Departure\u2013","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Departure\u2013-20250129162900-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Departure–-20250129162900-ExclusiveEditor-20250129090800"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Checkpoint</b> Looking at this after a day, I see that it's still in the news with reports like this <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul6y2IoRNVI&t=980s">DW</a> at the top of my feed. And it's still the top read article with 860,000 more readers yesterday. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:14, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129091400","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":["c-Imcdc-20250129162300-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400","c-The_Kip-20250129181100-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400"],"displayName":"Andrew"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Imcdc-20250129162300-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400"></span>Nvidia stock dropping another 5% as I write this. <a href="/wiki/User:Imcdc" title="User:Imcdc"><b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#40E0D0"> Imcdc</b></a> <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:2px 5px;background:#0151D2;font-size:75%"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Imcdc" title="User talk:Imcdc"><span style="color:#FFF"><b>Contact</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Imcdc-20250129162300-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:23, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Imcdc-20250129162300-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129162300","author":"Imcdc","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Imcdc-20250129162300-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Imcdc-20250129162300-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250129181100-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">And it's still the top read article with 860,000 more readers yesterday.</q></dd> <dd>Cool. Doesn't matter, though, as you've been told more than enough times. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250129181100-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:11, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250129181100-Andrew_Davidson-20250129091400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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(UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sportsnut24-20250129124500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129124500","author":"Sportsnut24","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sportsnut24-20250129124500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sportsnut24-20250129124500-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alsoriano97-20250129161200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Oppose</b> per all above. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20250129161200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alsoriano97-20250129161200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129161200","author":"Alsoriano97","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Alsoriano97-20250129161200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900","replies":[],"displayName":"_-_Alsor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alsoriano97-20250129161200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250129181200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"></span>Oppose</b> per Modest Genius. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250129181200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:12, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250129181200-Andrew_Davidson-20250128091900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Current_events/2025_January_27" title="Portal:Current events/2025 January 27">Portal:Current events/2025 January 27</a></div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248507241"><div class="current-events"> <div role="region" aria-label="January 27" id="2025_January_27" class="current-events-main vevent"> <div class="current-events-heading plainlinks"> <div class="current-events-title" role="heading"><span class="summary">January 27, 2025<span style="display:none"> (<span class="bday dtstart published updated itvstart">2025-01-27</span>)</span> (Monday)</span> </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_January_27&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_January_27&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_January_27&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> <p><b>Armed conflicts and attacks</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Colombian_conflict" title="Colombian conflict">Colombian conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Catatumbo_campaign" title="Catatumbo campaign">Catatumbo campaign</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Catatumbo_clashes" title="2025 Catatumbo clashes">2025 Catatumbo clashes</a> <ul><li>Local authorities of <a href="/wiki/Teorama" title="Teorama">Teorama</a>, <a href="/wiki/Norte_de_Santander_Department" title="Norte de Santander Department">Norte de Santander</a>, <a href="/wiki/Colombia" title="Colombia">Colombia</a>, find the bodies of thirteen <a href="/wiki/FARC_dissidents" title="FARC dissidents">FARC</a> combatants. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.elespectador.com/judicial/urgente-catatumbo-hoy-encuentran-13-cuerpos-sin-vida-en-zona-rural-de-teorama-noticias-hoy/">(<i>El Espectador</i>)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Kivu_conflict" title="Kivu conflict">Kivu conflict</a>, <a href="/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo%E2%80%93Rwanda_tensions_(2022%E2%80%93present)" class="mw-redirect" title="Democratic Republic of the Congo–Rwanda tensions (2022–present)">Democratic Republic of the Congo–Rwanda tensions</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/M23_offensive_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="M23 offensive (2022–present)">M23 offensive</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Goma_(2025)" class="mw-redirect" title="Battle of Goma (2025)">Battle of Goma</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/March_23_Movement" title="March 23 Movement">M23</a> rebels claim to have captured the city of <a href="/wiki/Goma" title="Goma">Goma</a> in <a href="/wiki/North_Kivu_Province" class="mw-redirect" title="North Kivu Province">North Kivu Province</a>, <a href="/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo" title="Democratic Republic of the Congo">Democratic Republic of the Congo</a>. The government says its troops still hold the <a href="/wiki/Goma_International_Airport" title="Goma International Airport">Goma International Airport</a> and other key locations, and that <a href="/wiki/Rwanda" title="Rwanda">Rwandan</a> army soldiers are present in Goma. <a href="/wiki/Armed_Forces_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo" title="Armed Forces of the Democratic Republic of the Congo">Congolese</a> and <a href="/wiki/Rwanda_Defence_Force" class="mw-redirect" title="Rwanda Defence Force">Rwandan forces</a> exchange fire along the <a href="/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo%E2%80%93Rwanda_border" title="Democratic Republic of the Congo–Rwanda border">border</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/27/declaration-of-war-m23-rebels-claim-to-have-captured-key-dr-congo-city">(Al Jazeera)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qwlkydxxko">(BBC)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/dr-congo-says-rwanda-army-in-goma/a-71422564">(DW)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Business and economy</b> </p> <ul><li>A global technology stocks selloff on the <a href="/wiki/Nasdaq_Stock_Market" class="mw-redirect" title="Nasdaq Stock Market">Nasdaq Stock Market</a>, prompted by the release of the <a href="/wiki/China" title="China">Chinese</a> <a href="/wiki/DeepSeek" title="DeepSeek">DeepSeek</a>-R1 model, leads to record losses in the <a href="/wiki/Market_capitalization" title="Market capitalization">market capitalizations</a> of <a href="/wiki/Artificial_intelligence" title="Artificial intelligence">AI</a> and <a href="/wiki/Computer_hardware" title="Computer hardware">computer hardware</a> <a href="/wiki/List_of_computer_hardware_manufacturers" title="List of computer hardware manufacturers">companies</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/chinas-deepseek-sets-off-ai-market-rout-2025-01-27/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul> <p><b>International relations</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/China%E2%80%93India_relations" title="China–India relations">China–India relations</a> <ul><li>Following the meeting between <a href="/wiki/Foreign_Secretary_(India)" title="Foreign Secretary (India)">Indian Foreign Secretary</a> <a href="/wiki/Vikram_Misri" title="Vikram Misri">Vikram Misri</a> and <a href="/wiki/Foreign_Minister_of_China" class="mw-redirect" title="Foreign Minister of China">Chinese Foreign Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Wang_Yi_(politician)" title="Wang Yi (politician)">Wang Yi</a> in <a href="/wiki/Beijing" title="Beijing">Beijing</a>, <a href="/wiki/China" title="China">China</a> and <a href="/wiki/India" title="India">India</a> agree to resume direct air travel between the two countries after a five-year hiatus. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/india-china-agree-resume-air-travel-after-five-years-4899321">(CNA)</a>.</li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Law and crime</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Interpol_Terrorism_Watch_List" title="Interpol Terrorism Watch List">Interpol Terrorism Watch List</a> <ul><li>A joint <a href="/wiki/INTERPOL" class="mw-redirect" title="INTERPOL">INTERPOL</a> and <a href="/wiki/Afripol" title="Afripol">AFRIPOL</a> operation including eight <a href="/wiki/East_Africa" title="East Africa">East African</a> nations leads to the arrest of 37 people and the seizure of <a href="/wiki/Small_arms_and_light_weapons" title="Small arms and light weapons">small</a> and <a href="/wiki/Heavy_weapon" class="mw-disambig" title="Heavy weapon">heavy weapons</a> in <a href="/wiki/Kenya" title="Kenya">Kenya</a>, <a href="/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo" title="Democratic Republic of the Congo">Democratic Republic of the Congo</a>, <a href="/wiki/Somalia" title="Somalia">Somalia</a> and <a href="/wiki/Tanzania" title="Tanzania">Tanzania</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.interpol.int/en/News-and-Events/News/2025/37-terror-suspects-arrested-in-East-African-operation">(INTERPOL)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Politics and elections</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Second_presidency_of_Donald_Trump" title="Second presidency of Donald Trump">Second presidency of Donald Trump</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Second_cabinet_of_Donald_Trump" title="Second cabinet of Donald Trump">Second cabinet of Donald Trump</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/United_States_Senate" title="United States Senate">United States Senate</a> votes to confirm <a href="/wiki/Scott_Bessent" title="Scott Bessent">Scott Bessent</a> as <a href="/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Treasury" title="United States Secretary of the Treasury">U.S. Treasury Secretary</a>, making him the highest rank <a href="/wiki/LGBTQ" title="LGBTQ">LGBTQ</a> official to run the <a href="/wiki/United_States_Treasury" class="mw-redirect" title="United States Treasury">U.S. Treasury</a> and the highest-ranking LGBTQ person in the United States. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://time.com/7210423/scott-bessent-confirmed-trump-treasury-secretary/">(TIME)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> <a href="/wiki/Office_of_Management_and_Budget" title="Office of Management and Budget">Office of Management and Budget</a> acting director Matthew Vaeth orders <a href="/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States" title="Federal government of the United States">federal government</a> agencies to temporarily pause all federal financial assistance programs, with the exception of <a href="/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)" title="Medicare (United States)">Medicare</a> and <a href="/wiki/Social_Security_(United_States)" title="Social Security (United States)">Social Security</a>, that could be implicated by select <a href="/wiki/Executive_order" title="Executive order">executive orders</a> from <a href="/wiki/President_of_the_United_States" title="President of the United States">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Donald_Trump" title="Donald Trump">Donald Trump</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/27/trump-freezes-federal-aid-omb-00200891">(Politico)</a></li> <li>President Trump signs an executive order eliminating "gender radicalism in the military", targeting <a href="/wiki/Transgender_personnel_in_the_United_States_military" title="Transgender personnel in the United States military">transgender personnel</a> in the <a href="/wiki/United_States_Armed_Forces" title="United States Armed Forces">military</a>, and another executive order that mandates a process to develop an American <a href="/wiki/Iron_Dome" title="Iron Dome">Iron Dome</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250128-trump-signs-executive-orders-aimed-at-trans-troops-mandates-american-iron-dome">(France 24)</a></li></ul></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_M23_offensive_(2022-present)" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_M23_offensive_(2022-present)-January_27-20250127072500"><span id=".28Posted.29_M23_offensive_.282022-present.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Posted)_M23_offensive_(2022-present)-January_27-20250127072500"></span>(Posted) M23 offensive (2022-present)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Posted)_M23_offensive_(2022-present)-January_27-20250127072500"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: (Posted) M23 offensive (2022-present)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Staraction-20250127072500-(Posted)_M23_offensive_(2022-present)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="M23_offensive_(2022–present)"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_M23_offensive_(2022–present)"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/M23_offensive_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="M23 offensive (2022–present)">M23 offensive (2022–present)</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:M23_offensive_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="Talk:M23 offensive (2022–present)">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=M23_offensive_(2022%E2%80%93present)&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:M23_offensive_(2022%E2%80%93present)&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=M23+offensive+%282022%E2%80%93present%29">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> In <b><a href="/wiki/M23_offensive_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="M23 offensive (2022–present)">an ongoing offensive</a></b>, the Rwandan-supported <a href="/wiki/March_23_Movement" title="March 23 Movement">March 23 Movement</a> <b><a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Goma_(2025)" class="mw-redirect" title="Battle of Goma (2025)">captures</a></b> <a href="/wiki/Goma" title="Goma">Goma</a>, the capital of <a href="/wiki/North_Kivu" title="North Kivu">North Kivu</a> province in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/27/world/africa/rebels-capture-goma-congo.html">New York Times</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Staraction" title="User:Staraction">Staraction</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staraction" title="User talk:Staraction">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Staraction&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BM23+offensive+%282022%E2%80%93present%29%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=M23+offensive+%282022%E2%80%93present%29&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:Applodion" title="User:Applodion">Applodion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Applodion" title="User talk:Applodion">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Applodion&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BM23+offensive+%282022%E2%80%93present%29%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=M23+offensive+%282022%E2%80%93present%29&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a></span>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:EdwinAlden.1995" title="User:EdwinAlden.1995">EdwinAlden.1995</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EdwinAlden.1995" title="User talk:EdwinAlden.1995">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:EdwinAlden.1995&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BM23+offensive+%282022%E2%80%93present%29%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=M23+offensive+%282022%E2%80%93present%29&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div></div><p>Nominator's comments: Thanks to many editor's efforts (especially EdwinAlden.1995), this article has been updated with new information in the past couple of days, and I believe it now meets the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ONGOING" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ONGOING">WP:ONGOING</a> criteria provided updates to the situation are continuously added. Please let me know if I'm missing something. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Staraction" title="User:Staraction"><span style="color: #FF9079">Star</span><span style="color: purple">action</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staraction" title="User talk:Staraction"><span style="color: #FF9079">talk</span></a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Staraction" title="Special:Contributions/Staraction"><span style="color: purple">contribs</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Staraction-20250127072500-(Posted)_M23_offensive_(2022-present)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a> <small>(please <a href="/wiki/Template:Ping" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ping">ping</a> on reply)</small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Staraction-20250127072500-(Posted)_M23_offensive_(2022-present)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127072500","author":"Staraction","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Staraction-20250127072500-(Posted)_M23_offensive_(2022-present)","replies":["c-Sportsnut24-20250127081000-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Twistedaxe-20250127105100-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Departure\u2013-20250127142200-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Modest_Genius-20250127155000-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Yo.dazo-20250127170200-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Wildfireupdateman-20250127170800-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Johnson524-20250127191200-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Ion.want.uu-20250127192100-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Ion.want.uu-20250127192300-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250127203300-Staraction-20250127072500","c-SpectralIon-20250127211300-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Khuft-20250127211900-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Nfitz-20250127212100-Staraction-20250127072500","c-BilboBeggins-20250127220400-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Chaotic_Enby-20250127230100-Staraction-20250127072500","c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128000900-Staraction-20250127072500","c-The_Kip-20250128001000-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Stephen-20250128022700-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128100500-Staraction-20250127072500","c-Flipandflopped-20250129061000-Staraction-20250127072500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Staraction-20250127072500-(Posted)_M23_offensive_(2022-present)"></span> </p><dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sportsnut24-20250127081000-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Support</b> congo had also de-recognized rwanda and peacekeepers killd.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sportsnut24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sportsnut24 (page does not exist)">Sportsnut24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sportsnut24" title="User talk:Sportsnut24">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Sportsnut24-20250127081000-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:10, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sportsnut24-20250127081000-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127081000","author":"Sportsnut24","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sportsnut24-20250127081000-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sportsnut24-20250127081000-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Twistedaxe-20250127105100-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Wait</b> to see if it escalates. Right now, it's only a renewed offensive towards Goma. If the rebels make significant advances and the conflict escalates, consider this a support. <span style="font-family: Courier New; background-color: green; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Twistedaxe" title="User:Twistedaxe"><span style="color: yellow">TwistedAxe</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Twistedaxe" title="User talk:Twistedaxe"><span style="color: navy">[contact]</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Twistedaxe-20250127105100-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:51, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Twistedaxe-20250127105100-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127105100","author":"Twistedaxe","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Twistedaxe-20250127105100-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Twistedaxe-20250127105100-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Departure–-20250127142200-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>I saw an article that said a two-party summit between Rwanda (who is supporting M23) and DR Congo mediated by Kenya is planned "within the next 48 hours" so <b>oppose</b> until that does (or doesn't) happen, and then maybe <b>support</b> if it expands further in scope. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20250127142200-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:22, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Departure–-20250127142200-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127142200","author":"Departure\u2013","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Departure\u2013-20250127142200-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Departure–-20250127142200-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Modest_Genius-20250127155000-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Support blurb</b> on the capture of Goma, which I've suggested below (I can't add it to the template if ongoing is selected). This is a major development in a conflict we wouldn't otherwise feature, in a part of the world that ITN under-represents. It's getting coverage in multiple Western media sources. The <a href="/wiki/M23_offensive_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="M23 offensive (2022–present)">M23 offensive (2022–present)</a> article is excellent, and there's a supporting article at <a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Goma_(2025)" class="mw-redirect" title="Battle of Goma (2025)">Battle of Goma (2025)</a> which is also in good shape. We could bold-link both of them. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius"><b style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: maroon;">Modest Genius</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius"><sup>talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20250127155000-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:50, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Modest_Genius-20250127155000-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127155000","author":"Modest Genius","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Modest_Genius-20250127155000-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Modest_Genius-20250127155000-Staraction-20250127072500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yo.dazo-20250127170200-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Suggested blurb: "As part of an <b><a href="/wiki/M23_offensive_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="M23 offensive (2022–present)">ongoing offensive</a></b> in the <a href="/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo" title="Democratic Republic of the Congo">Democratic Republic of the Congo</a>, the <a href="/wiki/March_23_Movement" title="March 23 Movement">March 23 Movement</a> <b><a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Goma_(2025)" class="mw-redirect" title="Battle of Goma (2025)">captures</a></b> <a href="/wiki/Goma" title="Goma">Goma</a>, the capital of <a href="/wiki/North_Kivu" title="North Kivu">North Kivu</a> province"</dd></dl></li> <li><b>Support blurb</b> per above. <b>Question</b> though: would having a blurb for this preclude the entire offensive going to Ongoing? <a href="/wiki/User:Yo.dazo" title="User:Yo.dazo">Yo.dazo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yo.dazo" title="User talk:Yo.dazo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Yo.dazo-20250127170200-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yo.dazo-20250127170200-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127170200","author":"Yo.dazo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yo.dazo-20250127170200-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yo.dazo-20250127170200-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wildfireupdateman-20250127170800-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Support blurb</b> per above. <a href="/wiki/User:Wildfireupdateman" title="User:Wildfireupdateman">Wildfireupdateman :)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wildfireupdateman" title="User talk:Wildfireupdateman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Wildfireupdateman-20250127170800-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wildfireupdateman-20250127170800-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250127181600-Wildfireupdateman-20250127170800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127181600","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250127181600-Wildfireupdateman-20250127170800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250127181600-Wildfireupdateman-20250127170800"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnson524-20250127191200-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Support blurb</b> per the <a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Goma_(2025)" class="mw-redirect" title="Battle of Goma (2025)">Battle of Goma (2025)</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Johnson524" title="User:Johnson524"><b><span style="color:orange;">Johnson</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnson524" title="User talk:Johnson524"><b><span style="color:blue;">524</span></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Johnson524-20250127191200-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnson524-20250127191200-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127191200","author":"Johnson524","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Johnson524-20250127191200-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[],"displayName":"Johnson"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnson524-20250127191200-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250127192100-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Support Blurb, wait on ongoing</b> per Battle of Goma <a href="/wiki/User:Ion.want.uu" title="User:Ion.want.uu">Ion.want.uu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ion.want.uu" title="User talk:Ion.want.uu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ion.want.uu-20250127192100-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250127192100-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127192100","author":"Ion.want.uu","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ion.want.uu-20250127192100-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ion.want.uu-20250127192100-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250127192300-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Comment</b> wouldn't it be better to put the Kivu/Ituri Conflicts as a whole in ongoing? it would then allow us to include the other rebellions/insurgencies like the ADF conflict under one ongoing item <a href="/wiki/User:Ion.want.uu" title="User:Ion.want.uu">Ion.want.uu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ion.want.uu" title="User talk:Ion.want.uu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ion.want.uu-20250127192300-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250127192300-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127192300","author":"Ion.want.uu","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ion.want.uu-20250127192300-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ion.want.uu-20250127192300-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250127203300-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Support</b> major development in the war <a href="/wiki/User:Orbitalbuzzsaw" title="User:Orbitalbuzzsaw">This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Orbitalbuzzsaw" title="User talk:Orbitalbuzzsaw">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250127203300-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250127203300-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127203300","author":"Orbitalbuzzsaw","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250127203300-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[],"displayName":"This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250127203300-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SpectralIon-20250127211300-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Support Goma blurb, Oppose Ongoing</b> per others. This doesn't get nearly enough coverage to be ongoing. --<a href="/wiki/User:SpectralIon" title="User:SpectralIon">Spectral</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpectralIon" title="User talk:SpectralIon">Ion</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SpectralIon-20250127211300-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SpectralIon-20250127211300-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127211300","author":"SpectralIon","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SpectralIon-20250127211300-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[],"displayName":"Spectral"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SpectralIon-20250127211300-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Khuft-20250127211900-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Support Goma blurb, Oppose Ongoing</b> as well. The (possible) fall of a major city to rebels is very noteworthy. It would be a shame to hide it under a mysterious moniker under Ongoing. Whether the conflict overall should go to ongoing can be discussed once the blurb is close to rolling off. <a href="/wiki/User:Khuft" title="User:Khuft">Khuft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Khuft" title="User talk:Khuft">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Khuft-20250127211900-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Khuft-20250127211900-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127211900","author":"Khuft","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Khuft-20250127211900-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Khuft-20250127211900-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nfitz-20250127212100-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Question</b> - With fighting now into it's 4th year, why blurb this rather than ongoing? <a href="/wiki/User:Nfitz" title="User:Nfitz">Nfitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nfitz" title="User talk:Nfitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nfitz-20250127212100-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nfitz-20250127212100-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127212100","author":"Nfitz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nfitz-20250127212100-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":["c-Khuft-20250127213500-Nfitz-20250127212100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nfitz-20250127212100-Staraction-20250127072500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Khuft-20250127213500-Nfitz-20250127212100"></span>From my perspective: because you have tons of ongoing rebellions all over the world, that get mostly ignored by media. We don't include them in Ongoing. Only when a major event happens is that event noteworthy. The capture of Goma, one of the largest cities of the DRC, is one such event and is what's noteworthy in this case. <a href="/wiki/User:Khuft" title="User:Khuft">Khuft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Khuft" title="User talk:Khuft">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Khuft-20250127213500-Nfitz-20250127212100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Khuft-20250127213500-Nfitz-20250127212100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130075100","author":"Nfitz","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nfitz-20250130075100-Khuft-20250127213500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nfitz-20250130075100-Khuft-20250127213500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BilboBeggins-20250127220400-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20250127220400-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:04, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BilboBeggins-20250127220400-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127220400","author":"BilboBeggins","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BilboBeggins-20250127220400-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BilboBeggins-20250127220400-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chaotic_Enby-20250127230100-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Support blurb</b>, and, if the same level of activity continues, <b>support ongoing</b> after the blurb dies out. <a href="/wiki/User:Chaotic_Enby" title="User:Chaotic Enby"><span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotic <span style="color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chaotic_Enby" title="User talk:Chaotic Enby">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Chaotic_Enby" title="Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Chaotic_Enby-20250127230100-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:01, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chaotic_Enby-20250127230100-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127230100","author":"Chaotic Enby","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chaotic_Enby-20250127230100-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chaotic_Enby-20250127230100-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128000900-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Support -</b> Its a shame that we don't care about African wars as much as we do with European ones. <a href="/wiki/User:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User:SimpleSubCubicGraph">SimpleSubCubicGraph</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128000900-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:09, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128000900-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ion.want.uu-20250128030700-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128000900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250128030700-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128000900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128030700","author":"Ion.want.uu","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ion.want.uu-20250128030700-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128000900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ion.want.uu-20250128030700-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128000900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250128001000-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Support blurb</b> per Modest Genius. Sufficient level of activity and good enough article quality to merit one. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250128001000-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:10, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250128001000-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128001000","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250128001000-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250128001000-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250128022700-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Posted blurb</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250128022700-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:27, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250128022700-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128022700","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stephen-20250128022700-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20250128022700-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128100500-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Pull</b> The nominated article says that the government claims to be holding the airport and other key points. The claim of capture by one side therefore just seems to be a claim and the reality is that fighting continues. The size of the forces seems quite small and so the situation seems likely to be chaotic and uncertain as both sides may feed in reinforcements. In such circumstances, we shouldn't be posting contentious claims. I've logged this at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ERRORS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ERRORS">WP:ERRORS</a> ... <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128100500-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:05, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128100500-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128100500","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128100500-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":[],"displayName":"Andrew"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250128100500-Staraction-20250127072500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Flipandflopped-20250129061000-Staraction-20250127072500"></span>Comment</b> I find it rather odd that we are using the verbiage "an ongoing offensive", but then not having the supposedly ongoing offensive in the corresponding section just a few lines down. That section is specifically for all newsworthy ongoing conflicts, and yet this is not listed. Is it ongoing and ITN or isn't it? It's like we're contradicting ourselves. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped"><b style="color:Teal;">Flip</b></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped"><sup style="color:purple">and</sup></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped"><b style="color:lime">Flopped</b></a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"><b style="color:grey"> ツ</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20250129061000-Staraction-20250127072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:10, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Flipandflopped-20250129061000-Staraction-20250127072500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129061000","author":"Flipandflopped","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Flipandflopped-20250129061000-Staraction-20250127072500","replies":["c-The_Kip-20250129075500-Flipandflopped-20250129061000","c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129093400-Flipandflopped-20250129061000","c-Stephen-20250129100100-Flipandflopped-20250129061000"],"displayName":"Flip"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Flipandflopped-20250129061000-Staraction-20250127072500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250129075500-Flipandflopped-20250129061000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flipandflopped</a> I assume it'll be added to ongoing once the blurb rolls off, as usual. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250129075500-Flipandflopped-20250129061000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:55, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250129075500-Flipandflopped-20250129061000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129075500","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250129075500-Flipandflopped-20250129061000","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250129075500-Flipandflopped-20250129061000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129093400-Flipandflopped-20250129061000"></span>Conflict in the city still seems to be ongoing and the long-term conflict has been going on for more than 30 years. This <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgly1yrd9j3o">BBC explainer</a> is a good summary ... <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129093400-Flipandflopped-20250129061000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:34, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129093400-Flipandflopped-20250129061000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129093400","author":"Andrew Davidson","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129093400-Flipandflopped-20250129061000","replies":[],"displayName":"Andrew"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20250129093400-Flipandflopped-20250129061000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250129100100-Flipandflopped-20250129061000"></span>Not every offensive is listed in ongoing, and we wouldn’t list it twice. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250129100100-Flipandflopped-20250129061000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:01, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250129100100-Flipandflopped-20250129061000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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class="summary">January 26, 2025<span style="display:none"> (<span class="bday dtstart published updated itvstart">2025-01-26</span>)</span> (Sunday)</span> </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_January_26&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_January_26&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2025_January_26&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> <p><b>Armed conflicts and attacks</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon_(2024%E2%80%93present)" title="Israeli invasion of Lebanon (2024–present)">Israeli invasion of Lebanon</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Israel%E2%80%93Lebanon_ceasefire_agreement" title="2024 Israel–Lebanon ceasefire agreement">2024 Israel–Lebanon ceasefire agreement</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/January_2025_southern_Lebanon_attack" title="January 2025 southern Lebanon attack">January 2025 southern Lebanon attack</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Israeli_Defense_Forces" class="mw-redirect" title="Israeli Defense Forces">Israeli soldiers</a> open fire against the <a href="/wiki/Lebanese_Army" class="mw-redirect" title="Lebanese Army">Lebanese Army</a> and civilians in two villages in <a href="/wiki/Southern_Lebanon" title="Southern Lebanon">southern</a> <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a>, killing 22 people and wounding at least 124 more. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/26/israel-kills-3-wounds-dozens-in-south-lebanon-in-breach-of-ceasefire-deal">(Al Jazeera)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/lebanese-health-ministry-raises-death-toll-to-22-from-israeli-fire-in-south-of-country/">(<i>The Times of Israel</i>)</a></li></ul></li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> announces that the ceasefire between <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israel</a> and <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a> will be extended to February 18. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.axios.com/2025/01/26/israel-lebanon-ceasefire-extended-trump-white-house">(Axios)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Kivu_conflict" title="Kivu conflict">Kivu conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/M23_offensive_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="M23 offensive (2022–present)">M23 offensive</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Goma_(2025)" class="mw-redirect" title="Battle of Goma (2025)">Battle of Goma</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/March_23_Movement" title="March 23 Movement">March 23 Movement</a> rebels begin their advance into the city of <a href="/wiki/Goma" title="Goma">Goma</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/26/un-chief-calls-for-rwandan-forces-to-leave-drc-as-rebels-press-offensive">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Velyka_Novosilka_offensive" title="Velyka Novosilka offensive">Velyka Novosilka offensive</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Ministry_of_Defence_(Russia)" title="Ministry of Defence (Russia)">Russian Ministry of Defence</a> claims that Russian forces have captured the village of <a href="/wiki/Velyka_Novosilka" title="Velyka Novosilka">Velyka Novosilka</a>, <a href="/wiki/Donetsk_Oblast" title="Donetsk Oblast">Donetsk Oblast</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://english.mathrubhumi.com/amp/news/world/russia-captures-velyka-novosilka-ukraine-1.10287795">(Mathrubhumi)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Boko_Haram_insurgency" title="Boko Haram insurgency">Boko Haram insurgency</a> <ul><li>At least 27 <a href="/wiki/Nigerian_Armed_Forces" title="Nigerian Armed Forces">Nigerian soldiers</a>, including the commanding officer of the 149th Battalion, are killed and dozens of others wounded in a <a href="/wiki/Suicide_attack" title="Suicide attack">suicide bombing</a> carried out by an <a href="/wiki/Islamic_State_%E2%80%93_West_Africa_Province" title="Islamic State – West Africa Province">Islamic State</a> fighter in Malam-Fatori, <a href="/wiki/Borno_State" title="Borno State">Borno State</a>, <a href="/wiki/Nigeria" title="Nigeria">Nigeria</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/26/at-least-20-nigerian-soldiers-killed-in-attack-on-remote-army-base">(Al Jazeera)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://globalnation.inquirer.net/262431/jihadist-suicide-attack-kills-27-nigeria-sodiers-army">(AFP via <i>Inquirer</i>)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Business and economy</b> </p> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Syria" title="Syria">Syrian</a> newspaper <i><a href="/wiki/Enab_Baladi" title="Enab Baladi">Enab Baladi</a></i> announces it will return to Syria after a decade in exile following the beginning of the <a href="/wiki/Syrian_civil_war" title="Syrian civil war">Syrian civil war</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.newarab.com/news/syrian-paper-announces-damascus-return-after-decade-exile">(<i>The New Arab</i>)</a></li></ul> <p><b>International relations</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Colombia%E2%80%93United_States_relations" title="Colombia–United States relations">Colombia–United States relations</a>, <a href="/wiki/Mass_deportation_of_immigrants_in_the_second_presidency_of_Donald_Trump" class="mw-redirect" title="Mass deportation of immigrants in the second presidency of Donald Trump">Mass deportation of immigrants in the second presidency of Donald Trump</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Colombia" title="Colombia">Colombian</a> <a href="/wiki/President_of_Colombia" title="President of Colombia">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Gustavo_Petro" title="Gustavo Petro">Gustavo Petro</a> blocks two <a href="/wiki/U.S._military" class="mw-redirect" title="U.S. military">U.S. military</a> aircrafts carrying deported <a href="/wiki/Colombians" title="Colombians">Colombians</a> as part of <a href="/wiki/U.S._President" class="mw-redirect" title="U.S. President">U.S. President</a> <a href="/wiki/Donald_Trump" title="Donald Trump">Donald Trump</a>'s immigration crackdown from landing in his country. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/26/colombia-gustavo-petro-trump-deportation-flights">(The Guardian)</a></li> <li>In response to President Gustavo Petro's refusal, U.S. President Donald Trump enacts a 25% <a href="/wiki/Tariff" title="Tariff">tariff</a> on all goods traded to the U.S. from Colombia, which will be raised to 50% in one week. Hours after Trump's announcement, President Petro orders the <a href="/wiki/Ministry_of_Commerce,_Industry_and_Tourism_(Colombia)" title="Ministry of Commerce, Industry and Tourism (Colombia)">commerce ministry</a> to raise tariffs on U.S. imports by 25%. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/26/politics/colombia-tariffs-trump-deportation-flights/index.html">(CNN)</a></li> <li>The dispute is settled with an agreement to use the <a href="/wiki/Colombian_Air_Force_One" title="Colombian Air Force One">Colombian presidential plane</a> to fly the deportees from the U.S. to Colombia. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/colombia-immigration-deportation-flights-petro-trump-us-67870e41556c5d8791d22ec6767049fd">(AP)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://thehill.com/policy/international/5107740-colombia-presidential-plane-honduras-us-deportation-flights/">(<i>The Hill</i>)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Belarus%E2%80%93United_States_relations" title="Belarus–United States relations">Belarus–United States relations</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_State" title="United States Secretary of State">U.S. Secretary of State</a> <a href="/wiki/Marco_Rubio" title="Marco Rubio">Marco Rubio</a> announces the release of American citizen Anastasia Nufer from a prison in <a href="/wiki/Belarus" title="Belarus">Belarus</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rferl.org/a/us-citizen-belarus-prison-release-rubio/33289470.html">(RFE/RL)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo%E2%80%93Rwanda_tensions_(2022%E2%80%93present)" class="mw-redirect" title="Democratic Republic of the Congo–Rwanda tensions (2022–present)">Democratic Republic of the Congo–Rwanda tensions</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/United_Nations" title="United Nations">United Nations</a> <a href="/wiki/Secretary-General_of_the_United_Nations" title="Secretary-General of the United Nations">Secretary-General</a> <a href="/wiki/Antonio_Guterres" class="mw-redirect" title="Antonio Guterres">Antonio Guterres</a> urges <a href="/wiki/Rwanda" title="Rwanda">Rwanda</a> to end its support for rebels in the <a href="/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo" title="Democratic Republic of the Congo">Democratic Republic of the Congo</a> and withdraw <a href="/wiki/Rwanda_Defence_Force" class="mw-redirect" title="Rwanda Defence Force">Rwandan soldiers</a> from Congolese territory. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/26/un-chief-calls-for-rwandan-forces-to-leave-drc-as-rebels-press-offensive">(Al Jazeera)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Minister_of_Foreign_Affairs_(Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo)" title="Minister of Foreign Affairs (Democratic Republic of the Congo)">Congolese Foreign Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Th%C3%A9r%C3%A8se_Kayikwamba_Wagner" title="Thérèse Kayikwamba Wagner">Thérèse Kayikwamba Wagner</a> calls Rwanda's military support for <a href="/wiki/March_23_Movement" title="March 23 Movement">M23</a> rebels a "<a href="/wiki/Declaration_of_war" title="Declaration of war">declaration of war</a>". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/dr-congo-updates-un-chief-urges-rwanda-to-pull-back-troops/live-71416951">(DW)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Law and crime</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_South_Korean_martial_law_crisis" title="2024 South Korean martial law crisis">2024 South Korean martial law crisis</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/President_of_South_Korea" title="President of South Korea">South Korean President</a> <a href="/wiki/Yoon_Suk_Yeol" title="Yoon Suk Yeol">Yoon Suk Yeol</a> is formally indicted on <a href="/wiki/Insurrection" class="mw-redirect" title="Insurrection">insurrection</a> charges over his declaration of <a href="/wiki/Martial_law" title="Martial law">martial law</a> in December 2024. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/01/26/south-korea-president-yoon-indicted/">(<i>The Washington Post</i>)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Two people, including the perpetrator, are killed and six others are injured in a <a href="/wiki/Vehicle-ramming_attack" title="Vehicle-ramming attack">vehicle-ramming attack</a> in <a href="/wiki/Tampa,_Florida" title="Tampa, Florida">Tampa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Florida" title="Florida">Florida</a>, United States. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wusf.org/courts-law/2025-01-27/a-suspect-is-identified-in-a-vehicular-rampage-that-led-to-the-deaths-of-two-in-south-tampa">(NPR)</a></li></ul> <p><b>Politics and elections</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Belarusian_presidential_election" title="2025 Belarusian presidential election">2025 Belarusian presidential election</a> <ul><li>A vote is held in <a href="/wiki/Belarus" title="Belarus">Belarus</a> for <a href="/wiki/President_of_Belarus" title="President of Belarus">president</a>, with President <a href="/wiki/Alexander_Lukashenko" title="Alexander Lukashenko">Alexander Lukashenko</a> expected to extend his rule in an election that the <a href="/wiki/Belarusian_opposition" title="Belarusian opposition">Belarusian opposition</a>, the <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>, and the <a href="/wiki/European_Parliament" title="European Parliament">European Parliament</a> have called a <a href="/wiki/Sham_election" class="mw-redirect" title="Sham election">sham election</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2025/1/25/lukashenko-ahead-of-2025-election-still-afraid-of-the-people">(Al Jazeera)</a></li> <li>A protest in <a href="/wiki/Warsaw" title="Warsaw">Warsaw</a>, <a href="/wiki/Poland" title="Poland">Poland</a>, is organized by Belarusian opposition leader <a href="/wiki/Sviatlana_Tsikhanouskaya" title="Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya">Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya</a> after Lukashenko's rule was extended to a 7th term. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://balkaninsight.com/2025/01/27/belarusians-in-poland-protest-farce-election/">(Balkan Insight)</a></li></ul></li></ul> <p><b>Sports</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_ATP_Tour" title="2025 ATP Tour">2025 ATP Tour</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_Australian_Open" title="2025 Australian Open">2025 Australian Open</a> <ul><li>In <a href="/wiki/Tennis" title="Tennis">tennis</a>, <a href="/wiki/Jannik_Sinner" title="Jannik Sinner">Jannik Sinner</a> defeats <a href="/wiki/Alexander_Zverev" title="Alexander Zverev">Alexander Zverev</a> 6–3, 7–6 (7–4), 6–3, in the <a href="/wiki/2025_Australian_Open_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_singles" title="2025 Australian Open – Men's singles">men's singles final</a> to win his second <a href="/wiki/Australian_Open" title="Australian Open">Australian Open</a> title and his third <a href="/wiki/Grand_Slam_(tennis)#Tournaments" title="Grand Slam (tennis)">Grand Slam</a> overall. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/jan/26/australian-open-final-jannik-sinner-alexander-zverev-mens-singles-report">(<i>The Guardian</i>)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.atptour.com/en/news/sinner-zverev-australian-open-2025-final">(ATP News)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2025_IMSA_SportsCar_Championship" title="2025 IMSA SportsCar Championship">2025 IMSA SportsCar Championship</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2025_24_Hours_of_Daytona" title="2025 24 Hours of Daytona">2025 24 Hours of Daytona</a> <ul><li>In <a href="/wiki/Motor_racing" class="mw-redirect" title="Motor racing">motor racing</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Team_Penske" title="Team Penske">Porsche Penske Motorsport</a> team wins the 63rd <a href="/wiki/24_Hours_of_Daytona" title="24 Hours of Daytona">24 Hours of Daytona</a> endurance race with drivers <a href="/wiki/Felipe_Nasr" title="Felipe Nasr">Felipe Nasr</a>, <a href="/wiki/Nick_Tandy" title="Nick Tandy">Nick Tandy</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Laurens_Vanthoor" title="Laurens Vanthoor">Laurens Vanthoor</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/sports/nascar/2025/01/26/daytona-rolex-24-winners-2025-imsa-race/77956414007/">(<i>The Daytona Beach News-Journal</i>)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_NFL_playoffs" title="2024–25 NFL playoffs">2024–25 NFL playoffs</a> <ul><li>In <a href="/wiki/American_football" title="American football">American football</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Philadelphia_Eagles" title="Philadelphia Eagles">Philadelphia Eagles</a> and <a href="/wiki/Kansas_City_Chiefs" title="Kansas City Chiefs">Kansas City Chiefs</a> win their respective conference championship games to reach <a href="/wiki/Super_Bowl_LIX" title="Super Bowl LIX">Super Bowl LIX</a>, a rematch of <a href="/wiki/Super_Bowl_LVII" title="Super Bowl LVII">two years prior</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/super-bowl-lix-preview-chiefs-eagles-matchup">(Fox Sports)</a></li></ul></li> <li>In <a href="/wiki/Association_football" title="Association football">association football</a>, <a href="/wiki/Chelsea_F.C._Women" title="Chelsea F.C. Women">Chelsea F.C. Women</a> sign <a href="/wiki/Soccer_in_the_United_States" title="Soccer in the United States">American</a> defender <a href="/wiki/Naomi_Girma" title="Naomi Girma">Naomi Girma</a> from <a href="/wiki/San_Diego_Wave_FC" title="San Diego Wave FC">San Diego Wave</a> for a world-record fee of US$1.1 million (<span style="white-space: nowrap">£</span>881,540), making her <a href="/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_women%27s_association_football_transfers" title="List of most expensive women's association football transfers">the most expensive woman player</a> and the first million-dollar transfer in <a href="/wiki/Women%27s_soccer" class="mw-redirect" title="Women's soccer">women's soccer</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/uswnt-star-naomi-girma-joins-chelsea-in-first-million-dollar-transfer-in-womens-soccer-history/">(CBS Sports)</a></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Arto_Salomaa" data-mw-thread-id="h-{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Arto_Salomaa-January_26"><span id=".7BREVIEWERS.27_ATTENTION_NEEDED.29_RD:_Arto_Salomaa"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Arto_Salomaa-January_26"></span>{REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED) RD: Arto Salomaa<span data-mw-comment-end="h-{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Arto_Salomaa-January_26"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: {REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED) RD: Arto Salomaa"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Arto_Salomaa"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Arto_Salomaa"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Arto_Salomaa" title="Arto Salomaa">Arto Salomaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Arto_Salomaa" title="Talk:Arto Salomaa">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arto_Salomaa&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Arto_Salomaa&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Arto+Salomaa">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.aka.fi/en/about-us/whats-new/press-releases/2025/arto-salomaa-academician-of-science-dies-at-90/">https://www.aka.fi/en/about-us/whats-new/press-releases/2025/arto-salomaa-academician-of-science-dies-at-90/</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Updated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Atossava&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Atossava (page does not exist)">Atossava</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Atossava" title="User talk:Atossava">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atossava&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BArto+Salomaa%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Arto+Salomaa&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Finnish mathematician and computer scientist. 12:42, 1 February 2025 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Gaositwe_Chiepe" data-mw-thread-id="h-{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Gaositwe_Chiepe-January_26"><span id=".7BREVIEWERS.27_ATTENTION_NEEDED.29_RD:_Gaositwe_Chiepe"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Gaositwe_Chiepe-January_26"></span>{REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED) RD: Gaositwe Chiepe<span data-mw-comment-end="h-{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Gaositwe_Chiepe-January_26"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: {REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED) RD: Gaositwe Chiepe"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Gaositwe_Chiepe"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Gaositwe_Chiepe"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Gaositwe_Chiepe" title="Gaositwe Chiepe">Gaositwe Chiepe</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Gaositwe_Chiepe" title="Talk:Gaositwe Chiepe">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gaositwe_Chiepe&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gaositwe_Chiepe&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gaositwe+Chiepe">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.mmegi.bw/news/dr-chiepe-died-peacefully-at-her-home-family/news">https://www.mmegi.bw/news/dr-chiepe-died-peacefully-at-her-home-family/news</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Updated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BorisCrafter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BorisCrafter (page does not exist)">BorisCrafter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BorisCrafter" title="User talk:BorisCrafter">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BorisCrafter&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BGaositwe+Chiepe%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gaositwe+Chiepe&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Botswana politician and diplomat. 12:42, 1 February 2025 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Norbert_(dog)" data-mw-thread-id="h-{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Norbert_(dog)-January_26"><span id=".7BREVIEWERS.27_ATTENTION_NEEDED.29_RD:_Norbert_.28dog.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Norbert_(dog)-January_26"></span>{REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED) RD: Norbert (dog)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-{REVIEWERS'_ATTENTION_NEEDED)_RD:_Norbert_(dog)-January_26"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: {REVIEWERS' ATTENTION NEEDED) RD: Norbert (dog)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Norbert_(dog)"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Norbert_(dog)"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Norbert_(dog)" title="Norbert (dog)">Norbert (dog)</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Norbert_(dog)" title="Talk:Norbert (dog)">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Norbert_(dog)&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Norbert_(dog)&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Norbert+%28dog%29">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://people.com/norbert-therapy-dog-dies-at-15-8781209">https://people.com/norbert-therapy-dog-dies-at-15-8781209</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Jkaharper" title="User:Jkaharper">Jkaharper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jkaharper" title="User talk:Jkaharper">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jkaharper&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BNorbert+%28dog%29%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Norbert+%28dog%29&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: Famous <a href="/wiki/Therapy_dog" title="Therapy dog">Therapy dog</a>. 12:42, 1 February 2025 (UTC) </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama-January_26-20250130120800"><span id=".28Posted.29_RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Posted)_RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama-January_26-20250130120800"></span>(Posted) RD: Kazuyoshi Akiyama<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Posted)_RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama-January_26-20250130120800"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: (Posted) RD: Kazuyoshi Akiyama"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800-(Posted)_RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> <b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="Kazuyoshi_Akiyama"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/Kazuyoshi_Akiyama" title="Kazuyoshi Akiyama">Kazuyoshi Akiyama</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Kazuyoshi_Akiyama" title="Talk:Kazuyoshi Akiyama">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kazuyoshi_Akiyama&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kazuyoshi_Akiyama&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Kazuyoshi+Akiyama">tag</a>)</span><br/><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination</b><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://vancouversun.com/entertainment/music/vso-conductor-kazuyoshi-akiyama-has-died">Vancouver Sun</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Updated and nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gerda_Arendt&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BKazuyoshi+Akiyama%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Kazuyoshi+Akiyama&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated+and+updated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>Article updated</small><br/><small>Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: A Japanese conductor who conducted not only the <a href="/wiki/Tokyo_Symphony_Orchestra" title="Tokyo Symphony Orchestra">Tokyo Symphony Orchestra</a> for 50 years, but also others in Canada and the U.S. for a long time, parallel, taking Western pieces to Japan (Japanese premieres of Schoenberg and Janacek, among others) and Japanese pieces to the world. His article was just a list of posts. It could still become better but I'm out for the day. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800-(Posted)_RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800-(Posted)_RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130120800","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800-(Posted)_RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama","replies":["c-Grimes2-20250131105800-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800","c-PFHLai-20250201104600-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800-(Posted)_RD:_Kazuyoshi_Akiyama"></span> </p><ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Grimes2-20250131105800-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800"></span>Support</b> 3739 characters (607 words) "readable prose size", sourced. <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Grimes2-20250131105800-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:58, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grimes2-20250131105800-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131105800","author":"Grimes2","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Grimes2-20250131105800-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grimes2-20250131105800-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PFHLai-20250201104600-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800"></span>Posted</b>. --<a href="/wiki/User:PFHLai" title="User:PFHLai">PFHLai</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PFHLai" title="User talk:PFHLai">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-PFHLai-20250201104600-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 1 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PFHLai-20250201104600-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250201104600","author":"PFHLai","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-PFHLai-20250201104600-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PFHLai-20250201104600-Gerda_Arendt-20250130120800"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open-January_26-20250126122500"><span id=".28Closed_as_stale.29_2025_Australian_Open"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open-January_26-20250126122500"></span>(Closed as stale) 2025 Australian Open<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open-January_26-20250126122500"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: (Closed as stale) 2025 Australian Open"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250131154800-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-abovebelow" style="padding: 0;"> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NON-ADMIN_CLOSURE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NON-ADMIN CLOSURE">NON-ADMIN CLOSURE</a>)</small></div> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Stale; Kivu conflict blurb from a day later is now the oldest blurb. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250131154800-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 31 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250131154800-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250131154800","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250131154800-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250131154800-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open"></span></div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moraljaya67-20250126122500-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open"></span>The following discussion is closed. <strong style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</strong> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </p> </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-ITNR"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 129px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Jannik_Sinner_(2024_US_Open)_04_(cropped).jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Jannik_Sinner_%282024_US_Open%29_04_%28cropped%29.jpg/129px-Jannik_Sinner_%282024_US_Open%29_04_%28cropped%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="129" height="153" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Jannik_Sinner_%282024_US_Open%29_04_%28cropped%29.jpg/194px-Jannik_Sinner_%282024_US_Open%29_04_%28cropped%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Jannik_Sinner_%282024_US_Open%29_04_%28cropped%29.jpg/258px-Jannik_Sinner_%282024_US_Open%29_04_%28cropped%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1665" data-file-height="1969"/></a></span></div> </div><b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="2025_Australian_Open"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_2025_Australian_Open"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/2025_Australian_Open" title="2025 Australian Open">2025 Australian Open</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2025_Australian_Open" title="Talk:2025 Australian Open">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2025_Australian_Open&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2025_Australian_Open&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Australian+Open">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> In <a href="/wiki/Tennis" title="Tennis">tennis</a>, <a href="/wiki/Jannik_Sinner" title="Jannik Sinner">Jannik Sinner</a> </i>(pictured)<i> wins the <b><a href="/wiki/2025_Australian_Open_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_singles" title="2025 Australian Open – Men's singles">men's singles</a></b> and <a href="/wiki/Madison_Keys" title="Madison Keys">Madison Keys</a> wins the <b><a href="/wiki/2025_Australian_Open_%E2%80%93_Women%27s_singles" title="2025 Australian Open – Women's singles">women's singles</a></b> at the <a href="/wiki/2025_Australian_Open" title="2025 Australian Open">Australian Open</a>. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/tennis/2025/01/26/jannik-sinner-vs-alexander-zverev-australian-open/77955253007/">USA Today</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/jan/25/madison-keys-stuns-aryna-sabalenka-to-win-thrilling-australian-open-final">The Guardian</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Moraljaya67" title="User:Moraljaya67">Moraljaya67</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moraljaya67" title="User talk:Moraljaya67">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Moraljaya67&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2025+Australian+Open%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Australian+Open&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>The nominated event is listed on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">WP:ITN/R</a>, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">WP:ITNCRIT</a>, not the significance.</small></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Moraljaya67" title="User:Moraljaya67">Moraljaya67</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moraljaya67" title="User talk:Moraljaya67">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Moraljaya67-20250126122500-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moraljaya67-20250126122500-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126122500","author":"Moraljaya67","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moraljaya67-20250126122500-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open","replies":["c-LiamKorda-20250126131100-Moraljaya67-20250126122500","c-Joseph2302-20250126154600-Moraljaya67-20250126122500","c-Twistedaxe-20250127105300-Moraljaya67-20250126122500","c-Modest_Genius-20250127160000-Moraljaya67-20250126122500","c-Fakescientist8000-20250127222700-Moraljaya67-20250126122500","c-The_Kip-20250129075500-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moraljaya67-20250126122500-(Closed_as_stale)_2025_Australian_Open"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LiamKorda-20250126131100-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"></span>Oppose</b> As mentioned in the past, like many tennis articles before it, lacks any prose summary in the main article about the events themselves and very little prose in the singles' articles. It has only just tables and lists of the results from the finals. There are four redlinks of four events of the tournament. <span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 10px #ff0000, 1px 1px 10px #ccc; font-weight:bold; font-family:Century Gothic;"><i><a href="/wiki/User:LiamKorda" title="User:LiamKorda">Liam</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LiamKorda" title="User talk:LiamKorda">Korda</a></i></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-LiamKorda-20250126131100-Moraljaya67-20250126122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:11, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LiamKorda-20250126131100-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126131100","author":"LiamKorda","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-LiamKorda-20250126131100-Moraljaya67-20250126122500","replies":[],"displayName":"Liam"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LiamKorda-20250126131100-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joseph2302-20250126154600-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"></span>Oppose</b> as no useful prose. <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302"><b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302"><b style="color:#000000">2302</b></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20250126154600-Moraljaya67-20250126122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joseph2302-20250126154600-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126154600","author":"Joseph2302","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Joseph2302-20250126154600-Moraljaya67-20250126122500","replies":["c-Sinsyuan-20250127011000-Joseph2302-20250126154600"],"displayName":"Joseph"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joseph2302-20250126154600-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sinsyuan-20250127011000-Joseph2302-20250126154600"></span>Support</b> as the ITNR. <span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#00ff55,#00cbff,#ff0090,#ffc300);border-radius:999px;padding:0 15px"><a href="/wiki/User:Sinsyuan" title="User:Sinsyuan"><span style="color:white">Sinsyuan</span></a></span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sinsyuan" title="User talk:Sinsyuan">✍️</a><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%9E%97%E4%BD%B3%E8%BE%B0" class="extiw" title="zh:林佳辰">🌏🚀</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Sinsyuan-20250127011000-Joseph2302-20250126154600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sinsyuan-20250127011000-Joseph2302-20250126154600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127011000","author":"Sinsyuan","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sinsyuan-20250127011000-Joseph2302-20250126154600","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sinsyuan-20250127011000-Joseph2302-20250126154600"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Twistedaxe-20250127105300-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"></span>Support</b> as ITN/R, <b>oppose</b> on quality. As the people above have stated, the article is mostly tables and very little prose. Once the article is improved, I support. <span style="font-family: Courier New; background-color: green; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Twistedaxe" title="User:Twistedaxe"><span style="color: yellow">TwistedAxe</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Twistedaxe" title="User talk:Twistedaxe"><span style="color: navy">[contact]</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Twistedaxe-20250127105300-Moraljaya67-20250126122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:53, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Twistedaxe-20250127105300-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127105300","author":"Twistedaxe","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Twistedaxe-20250127105300-Moraljaya67-20250126122500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Twistedaxe-20250127105300-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Modest_Genius-20250127160000-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"></span>It is not necessary (or helpful) to 'support' ITNR items, only to judge whether article quality is sufficient. This one is <b>not ready</b> because the article is almost entirely tables with no prose summary of the tournament. There need to be multiple paragraphs of referenced prose explaining what happened, not just tables and links to supporting articles with more tables. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius"><b style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: maroon;">Modest Genius</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius"><sup>talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20250127160000-Moraljaya67-20250126122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Modest_Genius-20250127160000-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127160000","author":"Modest Genius","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Modest_Genius-20250127160000-Moraljaya67-20250126122500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Modest_Genius-20250127160000-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250127222700-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"></span>Oppose</b> Both bolded articles lack actual prose and are mostly tables. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250127222700-Moraljaya67-20250126122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:27, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250127222700-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127222700","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250127222700-Moraljaya67-20250126122500","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250127222700-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250129075500-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"></span>Oppose</b> target articles are virtually devoid of prose. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250129075500-Moraljaya67-20250126122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:55, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250129075500-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129075500","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250129075500-Moraljaya67-20250126122500","replies":[],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250129075500-Moraljaya67-20250126122500"></span></li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. <b style="color: var(--color-error, red);">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_2025_Belarusian_presidential_election" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_2025_Belarusian_presidential_election-January_26-20250126024700"><span id=".28Posted.29_2025_Belarusian_presidential_election"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-(Posted)_2025_Belarusian_presidential_election-January_26-20250126024700"></span>(Posted) 2025 Belarusian presidential election<span data-mw-comment-end="h-(Posted)_2025_Belarusian_presidential_election-January_26-20250126024700"></span></h4><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: (Posted) 2025 Belarusian presidential election"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250126024700-(Posted)_2025_Belarusian_presidential_election"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-ITNR"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 119px;"> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Alexander_Lukashenko_(2024-05-24)_(cropped)_3.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Alexander_Lukashenko_%282024-05-24%29_%28cropped%29_3.jpg/119px-Alexander_Lukashenko_%282024-05-24%29_%28cropped%29_3.jpg" decoding="async" width="119" height="164" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Alexander_Lukashenko_%282024-05-24%29_%28cropped%29_3.jpg/179px-Alexander_Lukashenko_%282024-05-24%29_%28cropped%29_3.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Alexander_Lukashenko_%282024-05-24%29_%28cropped%29_3.jpg/238px-Alexander_Lukashenko_%282024-05-24%29_%28cropped%29_3.jpg 2x" data-file-width="396" data-file-height="546"/></a></span></div> </div><b>Article:</b> <span class="anchor" id="2025_Belarusian_presidential_election"></span><span class="anchor" id="RD:_2025_Belarusian_presidential_election"></span><span class="plainlinks"><a href="/wiki/2025_Belarusian_presidential_election" title="2025 Belarusian presidential election">2025 Belarusian presidential election</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2025_Belarusian_presidential_election" title="Talk:2025 Belarusian presidential election">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2025_Belarusian_presidential_election&action=history">history</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2025_Belarusian_presidential_election&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Belarusian+presidential+election">tag</a>)</span><br/><b>Blurb:</b> <i> <a href="/wiki/Alexander_Lukashenko" title="Alexander Lukashenko">Alexander Lukashenko</a> </i>(pictured)<i> is <strike>the </strike>declared to be the winner of the <b><a href="/wiki/2025_Belarusian_presidential_election" title="2025 Belarusian presidential election"> Belarusian presidential election</a></b>, securing a seventh term. </i><span class="sysop-show plainlinks"> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>)</span><br/><b>Alternative blurb:</b> <i> <a href="/wiki/Alexander_Lukashenko" title="Alexander Lukashenko">Alexander Lukashenko</a> </i>(pictured)<i> is <b><a href="/wiki/2025_Belarusian_presidential_election" title="2025 Belarusian presidential election">reelected</a></b> as <a href="/wiki/President_of_Belarus" title="President of Belarus">President of Belarus</a>, with credible opposition figures unable to participate. </i><br/><b>News source(s):</b> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2025/1/25/lukashenko-ahead-of-2025-election-still-afraid-of-the-people">Al Jazeera</a><br/><b>Credits:</b> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a> <b>·</b> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArionStar&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2025+Belarusian+presidential+election%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2025+Belarusian+presidential+election&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a></span>)</li></ul> </div><br/><small>The nominated event is listed on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">WP:ITN/R</a>, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">WP:ITNCRIT</a>, not the significance.</small></div><p>Nominator's comments: As the Putin re-election was similarly nominated and posted. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250126024700-(Posted)_2025_Belarusian_presidential_election" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:47, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250126024700-(Posted)_2025_Belarusian_presidential_election"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126024700","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250126024700-(Posted)_2025_Belarusian_presidential_election","replies":["c-Robertsky-20250126025500-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Departure\u2013-20250126041900-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Editor_5426387-20250126043100-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250126055400-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Twistedaxe-20250126151600-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Mike_gigs-20250126163300-ArionStar-20250126024700","c--insert_valid_name_here--20250126173700-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-PrecariousWorlds-20250126182600-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Shadow4dark-20250126203200-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Nfitz-20250126214100-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250126215900-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Iamstillqw3rty-20250127012900-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Gotitbro-20250127014600-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Ion.want.uu-20250127030800-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Ion.want.uu-20250127031000-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Hurricane_Noah-20250127032100-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Nice4What-20250127054200-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Trepang2-20250127072400-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Fakescientist8000-20250127111500-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127125900-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Ad_Orientem-20250127171500-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Yo.dazo-20250127172300-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Nableezy-20250127191900-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-GMota931-20250127210100-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Sura_Shukurlu-20250127212100-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Stephen-20250128011400-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-DecafPotato-20250128035400-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Wilfredor-20250128121300-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128132300-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Fakescientist8000-20250128221200-ArionStar-20250126024700","c-Flipandflopped-20250129062200-ArionStar-20250126024700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250126024700-(Posted)_2025_Belarusian_presidential_election"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robertsky-20250126025500-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Comment: External links in the Opinion polls section. Shouldn't those be references? Is Chatham House in there the <a href="/wiki/Chatham_House" title="Chatham House">Chatham House</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Robertsky" title="User:Robertsky">– robertsky</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robertsky" title="User talk:Robertsky">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Robertsky-20250126025500-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:55, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robertsky-20250126025500-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126025500","author":"Robertsky","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Robertsky-20250126025500-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250126030100-Robertsky-20250126025500"],"displayName":"\u2013 robertsky"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robertsky-20250126025500-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250126030100-Robertsky-20250126025500"></span>Just waiting for the obvious results. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250126030100-Robertsky-20250126025500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:01, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250126030100-Robertsky-20250126025500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126030100","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250126030100-Robertsky-20250126025500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250126030100-Robertsky-20250126025500"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Departure–-20250126041900-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Wait</b> for the results to come in. I wonder who's going to win. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20250126041900-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:19, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Departure–-20250126041900-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126041900","author":"Departure\u2013","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Departure\u2013-20250126041900-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Departure–-20250126041900-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Editor_5426387-20250126043100-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Wait</b> until the results are officially out, although it would be reasonable to assume Lukashenko's victory it is only fair we wait until it is official. <a href="/wiki/User:Editor_5426387" title="User:Editor 5426387">Editor 5426387</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Editor_5426387" title="User talk:Editor 5426387">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Editor_5426387-20250126043100-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:31, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Editor_5426387-20250126043100-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126043100","author":"Editor 5426387","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Editor_5426387-20250126043100-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Editor_5426387-20250126043100-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250126055400-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Support</b> Water is wet, more at eleven <a href="/wiki/User:Orbitalbuzzsaw" title="User:Orbitalbuzzsaw">This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Orbitalbuzzsaw" title="User talk:Orbitalbuzzsaw">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250126055400-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:54, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250126055400-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126055400","author":"Orbitalbuzzsaw","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250126055400-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[],"displayName":"This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Orbitalbuzzsaw-20250126055400-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Twistedaxe-20250126151600-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Wait</b>, even though we know who's going to win, it's mostly for formalities. <span style="font-family: Courier New; background-color: green; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Twistedaxe" title="User:Twistedaxe"><span style="color: yellow">TwistedAxe</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Twistedaxe" title="User talk:Twistedaxe"><span style="color: navy">[contact]</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Twistedaxe-20250126151600-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Twistedaxe-20250126151600-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126151600","author":"Twistedaxe","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Twistedaxe-20250126151600-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Twistedaxe-20250126151600-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><b><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_gigs-20250126163300-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Wait</s></b> – Per above <small> ✈</small> <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20250126163300-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:33, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_gigs-20250126163300-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126163300","author":"Mike gigs","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_gigs-20250126163300-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":["c-Mike_gigs-20250127152500-Mike_gigs-20250126163300"],"displayName":"mike_gigs"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_gigs-20250126163300-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_gigs-20250127152500-Mike_gigs-20250126163300"></span>Support</b> - Whether the election is a sham or not, it is still notable. Lukashenko is going to be the president for the next term and that's newsworthy. The point of ITN is to highlight quality articles about current events. The election is a current event and the article highlights the fact that it's a sham quite well, not sure how we feel about including that in the blurb? <small> ✈</small> <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20250127152500-Mike_gigs-20250126163300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:25, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_gigs-20250127152500-Mike_gigs-20250126163300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127152500","author":"Mike gigs","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mike_gigs-20250127152500-Mike_gigs-20250126163300","replies":[],"displayName":"mike_gigs"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_gigs-20250127152500-Mike_gigs-20250126163300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><s><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c--insert_valid_name_here--20250126173700-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Wait</b> until they officially announce his victory.</s> <a href="/wiki/User:-insert_valid_name_here-" title="User:-insert valid name here-">-insert valid name here-</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:-insert_valid_name_here-" title="User talk:-insert valid name here-">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c--insert_valid_name_here--20250126173700-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c--insert_valid_name_here--20250126173700-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126173700","author":"-insert valid name here-","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c--insert_valid_name_here--20250126173700-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":["c--insert_valid_name_here--20250127184000--insert_valid_name_here--20250126173700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c--insert_valid_name_here--20250126173700-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c--insert_valid_name_here--20250127184000--insert_valid_name_here--20250126173700"></span>Support</b>. The results of general elections in <i>all</i> states on the <a href="/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states" title="List of sovereign states">List of sovereign states</a> are ITN/R, no matter the legitimacy of their results. Keep in mind posting "reappointments" of the leaders of de jure totalitarian states are in ITN/R as well, so even if Lukashenko admitted he was a dictator, we would still post this. As for article quality, there are no unsourced sections, a fair amount of background, and discussion of this election's legitimacy (or lack thereof). I believe it's good enough to post. <a href="/wiki/User:-insert_valid_name_here-" title="User:-insert valid name here-">-insert valid name here-</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:-insert_valid_name_here-" title="User talk:-insert valid name here-">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c--insert_valid_name_here--20250127184000--insert_valid_name_here--20250126173700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c--insert_valid_name_here--20250127184000--insert_valid_name_here--20250126173700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127184000","author":"-insert valid name here-","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c--insert_valid_name_here--20250127184000--insert_valid_name_here--20250126173700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c--insert_valid_name_here--20250127184000--insert_valid_name_here--20250126173700"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Oppose -</b> WE should have neither posted the Belarussian or Russian elections. It was 100% guaranteed who would win, everyone knows that. This is not exciting, we dont post the North Korean elections either so whats the big deal with Belarus and Russia? More northerncentrism. <a href="/wiki/User:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User:SimpleSubCubicGraph">SimpleSubCubicGraph</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126182000","author":"SimpleSubCubicGraph","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":["c-Ion.want.uu-20250126182500-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000","c-Masem-20250126183300-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000","c-The_Kip-20250127143800-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000","c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128062100-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250126182500-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000"></span>we literally posted the 2024 russian election… <a href="/wiki/User:Ion.want.uu" title="User:Ion.want.uu">Ion.want.uu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ion.want.uu" title="User talk:Ion.want.uu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ion.want.uu-20250126182500-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250126182500-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126182500","author":"Ion.want.uu","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ion.want.uu-20250126182500-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ion.want.uu-20250126182500-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250126183300-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000"></span>Best as I can tell, the last NK election in 2019 were never nominated, so that's not a good example point to raise. Also, while much of the rest of the world see this as a sham election, we had this discussion just last year that ITN shouldn't be the place to judge that, but the article space itself (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_110" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 110">Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 110</a>)) --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250126183300-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250126183300-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126183300","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Masem-20250126183300-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250126183300-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20250127143800-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000"></span>Offhand dismissing noms you don’t like by accusing them of northcentrism is a great way to eventually get yourself removed from the ITN/C board. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <span style="color:#C8102E;"><small><sup>(<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>)</sup></small></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20250127143800-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:38, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20250127143800-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127143800","author":"The Kip","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-The_Kip-20250127143800-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000","replies":["c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128001100-The_Kip-20250127143800"],"displayName":"The"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20250127143800-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128001100-The_Kip-20250127143800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The Kip</a> even without the northerncentrism thing, we all knew who was going to win, this is nothing new. "Oh dictator remained in power again, who would have known??". Also these elections are more census data rather than actual elections. And we don't nominate US census for ITN. <a href="/wiki/User:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User:SimpleSubCubicGraph">SimpleSubCubicGraph</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User talk:SimpleSubCubicGraph">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128001100-The_Kip-20250127143800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:11, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128001100-The_Kip-20250127143800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128001100","author":"SimpleSubCubicGraph","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128001100-The_Kip-20250127143800","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250128001100-The_Kip-20250127143800"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128062100-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:SimpleSubCubicGraph" title="User:SimpleSubCubicGraph">SimpleSubCubicGraph</a>:</span> Do not mark everything as northcentrim etc, this will only decrease the value of the word, and make the case less effective where it is actually done. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128062100-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:21, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128062100-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128062100","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128062100-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128062100-SimpleSubCubicGraph-20250126182000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrecariousWorlds-20250126182600-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Oppose</b> – Holy shit what an upset. In all seriousness I don't think we should post blatantly rigged elections, with few exceptions (Russia I'd argue could count as one due to its size and significance) <a href="/wiki/User:PrecariousWorlds" title="User:PrecariousWorlds">PrecariousWorlds</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrecariousWorlds" title="User talk:PrecariousWorlds">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-PrecariousWorlds-20250126182600-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PrecariousWorlds-20250126182600-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126182600","author":"PrecariousWorlds","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-PrecariousWorlds-20250126182600-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":["c-GMota931-20250127205900-PrecariousWorlds-20250126182600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PrecariousWorlds-20250126182600-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GMota931-20250127205900-PrecariousWorlds-20250126182600"></span>"Blatantly rigged" for the Western world? No matter your opinion about it, a person was elected. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:GMota931&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:GMota931 (page does not exist)">GMota931</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GMota931" title="User talk:GMota931">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GMota931-20250127205900-PrecariousWorlds-20250126182600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GMota931-20250127205900-PrecariousWorlds-20250126182600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="c-Shadow4dark-20250126203200-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126203200","author":"Shadow4dark","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Shadow4dark-20250126203200-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shadow4dark-20250126203200-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nfitz-20250126214100-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Oppose</b> I don't think that presidential "elections" in unitary dictatorships qualify as ITN. <a href="/wiki/User:Nfitz" title="User:Nfitz">Nfitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nfitz" title="User talk:Nfitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nfitz-20250126214100-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nfitz-20250126214100-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126214100","author":"Nfitz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nfitz-20250126214100-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":["c-Sportsnut24-20250127081100-Nfitz-20250126214100"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nfitz-20250126214100-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sportsnut24-20250127081100-Nfitz-20250126214100"></span>strong support</b> ITNR elections (particularly head of state) don't matter if you like the result or not.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sportsnut24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sportsnut24 (page does not exist)">Sportsnut24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sportsnut24" title="User talk:Sportsnut24">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Sportsnut24-20250127081100-Nfitz-20250126214100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:11, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sportsnut24-20250127081100-Nfitz-20250126214100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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I don't think it actually meets the definition of the word "election". And thus it isn't ITNR. <a href="/wiki/User:Nfitz" title="User:Nfitz">Nfitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nfitz" title="User talk:Nfitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nfitz-20250130075300-Sportsnut24-20250127081100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:53, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nfitz-20250130075300-Sportsnut24-20250127081100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130075300","author":"Nfitz","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nfitz-20250130075300-Sportsnut24-20250127081100","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nfitz-20250130075300-Sportsnut24-20250127081100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250126215900-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Support</b> per ITN/R. I advertised the problem with elections in authoritarian countries and even proposed changes in the wording on ITN/R some time ago, but they were disregarded because it’s not that we shouldn’t post unfair and non-free elections. So, please be consistent and swallow the pill.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User talk:Kiril Simeonovski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250126215900-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:59, 26 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250126215900-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250126215900","author":"Kiril Simeonovski","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250126215900-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250126215900-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iamstillqw3rty-20250127012900-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Oppose</b> Breaking news: dictator is still a dictator. In other news, the sun is expected to rise in the east tomorrow. <a href="/wiki/User:Iamstillqw3rty" title="User:Iamstillqw3rty"><b><span style="color:#ff6ae4">q</span><span style="color:#dc79e9">w</span><span style="color:#b987ef">3</span><span style="color:#9696f4">r</span><span style="color:#73a4fa">t</span><span style="color:#50b3ff">y</span></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Iamstillqw3rty-20250127012900-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:29, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iamstillqw3rty-20250127012900-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127012900","author":"Iamstillqw3rty","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iamstillqw3rty-20250127012900-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[],"displayName":"qw3rty"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iamstillqw3rty-20250127012900-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gotitbro-20250127014600-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Support</b> ITNR items shouldn't be rejected on value judgments, changes about/rejection of "sham" elections should be first sought in that space. As of now this is perfectly valid to post based on article quality. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20250127014600-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:46, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gotitbro-20250127014600-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127014600","author":"Gotitbro","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gotitbro-20250127014600-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gotitbro-20250127014600-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250127030800-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Support</b> per ITNR <a href="/wiki/User:Ion.want.uu" title="User:Ion.want.uu">Ion.want.uu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ion.want.uu" title="User talk:Ion.want.uu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ion.want.uu-20250127030800-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:08, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250127030800-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127030800","author":"Ion.want.uu","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ion.want.uu-20250127030800-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ion.want.uu-20250127030800-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></dd> <dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250127031000-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Comment</b> guys we posted the <a href="/wiki/2024_Russian_presidential_election" title="2024 Russian presidential election">2024 Russian presidential election</a>, which lets be real was just as rigged, but we argeed that we were going to post these things regardless of legitmacy. Check the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/March_2024#(Posted)_2024_Russian_presidential_election" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/March 2024">archives</a> for the discussion <a href="/wiki/User:Ion.want.uu" title="User:Ion.want.uu">Ion.want.uu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ion.want.uu" title="User talk:Ion.want.uu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ion.want.uu-20250127031000-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:10, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ion.want.uu-20250127031000-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127031000","author":"Ion.want.uu","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ion.want.uu-20250127031000-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ion.want.uu-20250127031000-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hurricane_Noah-20250127032100-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Oppose</b> Dictator wins rigged election again. What a shock. <a href="/wiki/User:Hurricane_Noah" title="User:Hurricane Noah"><b style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah</b></a>, <a href="/wiki/BBA#BSBA" class="mw-redirect" title="BBA">BSBA</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hurricane_Noah" title="User talk:Hurricane Noah"><b style="color:#ff0000">Talk</b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Hurricane_Noah-20250127032100-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hurricane_Noah-20250127032100-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127032100","author":"Hurricane Noah","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hurricane_Noah-20250127032100-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[],"displayName":"Noah"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hurricane_Noah-20250127032100-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nice4What-20250127054200-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Support</b> per ITN/R. <a href="/wiki/User:Nice4What" title="User:Nice4What">Nice4What</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nice4What" title="User talk:Nice4What">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nice4What" title="Special:Contributions/Nice4What">contribs</a>) – <small>(<a href="/wiki/Help:Notifications/Thanks" title="Help:Notifications/Thanks">Thanks</a> <span style="color:#4dac8b;">♥</span>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nice4What-20250127054200-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:42, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nice4What-20250127054200-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127054200","author":"Nice4What","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nice4What-20250127054200-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nice4What-20250127054200-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trepang2-20250127072400-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Weak support</b> Although the election is obviously rigged, its result is the reinstatement of a head of a big European country. In this regard, it's newsworthy. I'd suggest an altblurb along the lines, "Aleksandr Lukashenko secures his seventh term as President of Belarus in an election that is mostly considered rigged worldwide. <a href="/wiki/User:Trepang2" title="User:Trepang2">Trepang2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trepang2" title="User talk:Trepang2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Trepang2-20250127072400-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trepang2-20250127072400-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127072400","author":"Trepang2","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Trepang2-20250127072400-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trepang2-20250127072400-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250127111500-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Support</b> Regardless of whether the election was rigged or not, we post all <b>ITN/R</b> elections as long as the article's quality is good, of which this article is an example of. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IDONTLIKEIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IDONTLIKEIT">We don't omit things from ITN just because we don't think they should be posted</a>. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250127111500-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250127111500-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127111500","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250127111500-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":["c-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900-Fakescientist8000-20250127111500"],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250127111500-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900-Fakescientist8000-20250127111500"></span>I don’t agree that this should be ITN/R. People seem to be gung-ho about posting that the sun has risen once again. Giving these dictators recognition is akin to giving sock masters recognition. We should be denying them recognition for winning when it’s a mere formality. End rant. <a href="/wiki/User:Hurricane_Noah" title="User:Hurricane Noah"><b style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#009200 0.3em 0.4em 1.0em,#009200 -0.2em -0.2em 1.0em;color:#009200">Noah</b></a>, <a href="/wiki/BBA#BSBA" class="mw-redirect" title="BBA">BSBA</a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hurricane_Noah" title="User talk:Hurricane Noah"><b style="color:#ff0000">Talk</b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900-Fakescientist8000-20250127111500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:49, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900-Fakescientist8000-20250127111500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127114900","author":"Hurricane Noah","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900-Fakescientist8000-20250127111500","replies":["c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250127120400-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900","c-Fakescientist8000-20250127205300-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900"],"displayName":"Noah"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900-Fakescientist8000-20250127111500"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250127120400-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Hurricane_Noah" title="User:Hurricane Noah">Hurricane Noah</a>:</span> I completely get your point and had similar thoughts when opening up <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_109#General_elections_on_ITN/R" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 109">this discussion</a> last year, which was eventually archived without any change. So, if you wish to contest the inclusion of 'rigged' elections, you're encouraged to re-open a similar discussion on the talk page. A pile-up of oppose votes is a very good indicator that there's interest to revisit our criteria once again, but it's not going to turn this nomination down when there's a clear note that an ITN/R event is merely subject to quality improvements. One exception is that sometimes we invoke <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IAR">WP:IAR</a> when there are unusual circumstances, but this is clearly not a unique case as there are other countries with 'rigged' elections.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User talk:Kiril Simeonovski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250127120400-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:04, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250127120400-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127120400","author":"Kiril Simeonovski","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250127120400-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20250127120400-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250127205300-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900"></span>Even if that were the true purpose of ITN (which it isn't), pearl clutching on a Wikipedia web forum isn't exactly changing anything in the lives of Belaursians nor in the advancement of democracy worldwide, which negates the entire purpose of doing so. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250127205300-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250127205300-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127205300","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250127205300-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900","replies":[],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250127205300-Hurricane_Noah-20250127114900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127125900-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Support</b> per Fakescientist8000, we post on ITN not because WP is a news agency, but to feature our articles currently in news. For the fact that it may be rigged, the article discusses it, so let the readers decide for themselves. --<a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127125900-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127125900-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127125900","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127125900-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127125900-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250127171500-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Reluctant Support</b> It's ITNR and article quality is adequate. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20250127171500-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:15, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ad_Orientem-20250127171500-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127171500","author":"Ad Orientem","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ad_Orientem-20250127171500-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ad_Orientem-20250127171500-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yo.dazo-20250127172300-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Added altblurb</b> since most sources agree that this was a sham. <a href="/wiki/User:Yo.dazo" title="User:Yo.dazo">Yo.dazo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yo.dazo" title="User talk:Yo.dazo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Yo.dazo-20250127172300-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yo.dazo-20250127172300-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127172300","author":"Yo.dazo","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Yo.dazo-20250127172300-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":["c-Masem-20250127172900-Yo.dazo-20250127172300"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yo.dazo-20250127172300-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250127172900-Yo.dazo-20250127172300"></span>Our blurbs on elections should remain politically neutral, letting the article discuss issues around a sham election, unless there are other newsworthy events associated with that, such as mass protests resulting from the election. I think we all here recognize the election was just a front, but we should be very careful of talking any political side. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250127172900-Yo.dazo-20250127172300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:29, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250127172900-Yo.dazo-20250127172300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127172900","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Masem-20250127172900-Yo.dazo-20250127172300","replies":["c-Masem-20250127173300-Masem-20250127172900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250127172900-Yo.dazo-20250127172300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20250127173300-Masem-20250127172900"></span>And to add, if majority of sources do call it a sham, then part of the quality check on the election article would be the proper neutral inclusion of the sham aspects in the article. If the article didn't have that despite the reporting, then that wouldn't meet the quality expectation. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20250127173300-Masem-20250127172900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20250127173300-Masem-20250127172900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127173300","author":"Masem","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Masem-20250127173300-Masem-20250127172900","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20250127173300-Masem-20250127172900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20250127191900-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>This page previously rejected the Cuban elections (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/March_2023#(Closed)_Cuban_parliamentary_election" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/March 2023">here</a>), whats the difference? <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20250127191900-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:19, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20250127191900-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127191900","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nableezy-20250127191900-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127194300-Nableezy-20250127191900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20250127191900-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127194300-Nableezy-20250127191900"></span>Before anything look at that article <a href="/wiki/2023_Cuban_parliamentary_election" title="2023 Cuban parliamentary election">2023 Cuban parliamentary election</a>, and you will get the first hint. -<a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127194300-Nableezy-20250127191900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127194300-Nableezy-20250127191900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127194300","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127194300-Nableezy-20250127191900","replies":["c-Nableezy-20250127194700-ExclusiveEditor-20250127194300"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127194300-Nableezy-20250127191900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20250127194700-ExclusiveEditor-20250127194300"></span>And whats that hint? The reason for rejection was that editors considered it a sham election and Wikipedia shouldnt include it on the front page. So, again, what is the difference here? <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20250127194700-ExclusiveEditor-20250127194300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:47, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20250127194700-ExclusiveEditor-20250127194300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127194700","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nableezy-20250127194700-ExclusiveEditor-20250127194300","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127195000-Nableezy-20250127194700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20250127194700-ExclusiveEditor-20250127194300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127195000-Nableezy-20250127194700"></span>Article lacking ITN quality seems to be the primary reason for refusal. Sham election and all is secondary, editors were ready to post it with some clarification in blurb. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127195000-Nableezy-20250127194700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:50, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127195000-Nableezy-20250127194700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127195000","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127195000-Nableezy-20250127194700","replies":["c-Nableezy-20250127200500-ExclusiveEditor-20250127195000"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127195000-Nableezy-20250127194700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nableezy-20250127200500-ExclusiveEditor-20250127195000"></span>Dont think that is an accurate reading of the discussion tbh, but reasonable minds may differ. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy"><span style="color:#C11B17;font-size:90%">nableezy</span></a></b> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20250127200500-ExclusiveEditor-20250127195000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nableezy-20250127200500-ExclusiveEditor-20250127195000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127200500","author":"Nableezy","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Nableezy-20250127200500-ExclusiveEditor-20250127195000","replies":["c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127201200-Nableezy-20250127200500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nableezy-20250127200500-ExclusiveEditor-20250127195000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127201200-Nableezy-20250127200500"></span>Maybe because my reading doesn't account for reasons I found unreasonable/ early votes :-|, but as said this depends on country to country, there is no consistency here, if you try to find it you just find chaos and lengthening discussions, as the one belowX2. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor"><span style="background:#FF9E61;color:Black;padding:3px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔xclusive<span style="background:black;color:gold;padding:2px;border-radius:9px;">𝓔ditor</span></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127201200-Nableezy-20250127200500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:12, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127201200-Nableezy-20250127200500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127201200","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127201200-Nableezy-20250127200500","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250127201200-Nableezy-20250127200500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GMota931-20250127210100-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Support</b>. A sovereign country has had its president elected, no matter what Western nations and media say. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:GMota931&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:GMota931 (page does not exist)">GMota931</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GMota931" title="User talk:GMota931">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GMota931-20250127210100-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GMota931-20250127210100-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127210100","author":"GMota931","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GMota931-20250127210100-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GMota931-20250127210100-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sura_Shukurlu-20250127212100-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Support</b> per ITNR: It is the result of the general election in a sovereign state and the quality of the article is good enough. <a href="/wiki/User:Sura_Shukurlu" title="User:Sura Shukurlu">Sura Shukurlu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sura_Shukurlu" title="User talk:Sura Shukurlu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Sura_Shukurlu-20250127212100-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 27 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sura_Shukurlu-20250127212100-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250127212100","author":"Sura Shukurlu","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Sura_Shukurlu-20250127212100-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sura_Shukurlu-20250127212100-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-20250128011400-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Posted</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20250128011400-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:14, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20250128011400-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128011400","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Stephen-20250128011400-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20250128011400-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DecafPotato-20250128035400-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Support posting but oppose current blurb</b> — The most <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">WP:NPOV</a> way to describe it is just that he "was re-elected." Concerns about "legitimizing a dictator" are trying to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RIGHTGREATWRONGS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RIGHTGREATWRONGS">WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS</a>. Yes, the election was neither free nor fair, but that's for the article to say, not ITN. <a href="/wiki/User:DecafPotato" title="User:DecafPotato">DecafPotato</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DecafPotato" title="User talk:DecafPotato">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-DecafPotato-20250128035400-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:54, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DecafPotato-20250128035400-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128035400","author":"DecafPotato","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DecafPotato-20250128035400-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":["c-GenevieveDEon-20250128101100-DecafPotato-20250128035400","c-BilboBeggins-20250128123000-DecafPotato-20250128035400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DecafPotato-20250128035400-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250128101100-DecafPotato-20250128035400"></span>Nonsense. It's well-attested that opposition parties were prevented from running, and that fact is definitely prominent in the news reporting about this election. It's not RGW to say what is actually being said in reliable sources, including in ITN headlines. <a href="/wiki/User:GenevieveDEon" title="User:GenevieveDEon">GenevieveDEon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GenevieveDEon" title="User talk:GenevieveDEon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GenevieveDEon-20250128101100-DecafPotato-20250128035400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GenevieveDEon-20250128101100-DecafPotato-20250128035400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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data-mw-thread-id="c-BilboBeggins-20250128123000-DecafPotato-20250128035400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128123000","author":"BilboBeggins","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BilboBeggins-20250128123000-DecafPotato-20250128035400","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250128125700-BilboBeggins-20250128123000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BilboBeggins-20250128123000-DecafPotato-20250128035400"></span> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250128125700-BilboBeggins-20250128123000"></span>Change</b> The original blurb is neutral and better. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250128125700-BilboBeggins-20250128123000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:57, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250128125700-BilboBeggins-20250128123000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128125700","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250128125700-BilboBeggins-20250128123000","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250128125700-BilboBeggins-20250128123000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wilfredor-20250128121300-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Oppose</b> The space could be used for something else instead of promoting irrelevant information <s>and propaganda</s>. <a href="/wiki/User:Wilfredor" title="User:Wilfredor">Wilfredor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wilfredor" title="User talk:Wilfredor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Wilfredor-20250128121300-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:13, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wilfredor-20250128121300-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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talk:ExclusiveEditor"><sub>Ping Me🔔</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128132300-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128132300-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128132300","author":"ExclusiveEditor","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128132300-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":["c-Mike_gigs-20250128135300-ExclusiveEditor-20250128132300"],"displayName":"\ud835\udcd4xclusive\ud835\udcd4ditor"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ExclusiveEditor-20250128132300-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_gigs-20250128135300-ExclusiveEditor-20250128132300"></span>I agree, the current blurb is neutral and factual while acknowledging the election was non fair or free in a non-editorial way. <small> ✈</small> <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20250128135300-ExclusiveEditor-20250128132300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:53, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_gigs-20250128135300-ExclusiveEditor-20250128132300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128135300","author":"Mike gigs","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mike_gigs-20250128135300-ExclusiveEditor-20250128132300","replies":["c-Mellk-20250130141500-Mike_gigs-20250128135300"],"displayName":"mike_gigs"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_gigs-20250128135300-ExclusiveEditor-20250128132300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mellk-20250130141500-Mike_gigs-20250128135300"></span>The last credible opposition candidate fled the country in 2020. This wording suggests there were credible opponents but he banned them shortly before the election. Best solution is to simply say he was declared the winner. <a href="/wiki/User:Mellk" title="User:Mellk">Mellk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mellk" title="User talk:Mellk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mellk-20250130141500-Mike_gigs-20250128135300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mellk-20250130141500-Mike_gigs-20250128135300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250130141500","author":"Mellk","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mellk-20250130141500-Mike_gigs-20250128135300","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mellk-20250130141500-Mike_gigs-20250128135300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250128221200-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Seriously? We aren't here to clutch pearls, right great wrongs, or somehow be pro democracy warriors. Change the blurb and move on. Cheers, <i>atque supra</i>! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20250128221200-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fakescientist8000-20250128221200-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128221200","author":"Fakescientist8000","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fakescientist8000-20250128221200-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":["c-BilboBeggins-20250128225500-Fakescientist8000-20250128221200"],"displayName":"Fake"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fakescientist8000-20250128221200-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BilboBeggins-20250128225500-Fakescientist8000-20250128221200"></span>You mean to change to "is declared to be the winner...with credible opposition figures unable to participate."? <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20250128225500-Fakescientist8000-20250128221200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:55, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BilboBeggins-20250128225500-Fakescientist8000-20250128221200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128225500","author":"BilboBeggins","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BilboBeggins-20250128225500-Fakescientist8000-20250128221200","replies":["c-ArionStar-20250128232100-BilboBeggins-20250128225500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BilboBeggins-20250128225500-Fakescientist8000-20250128221200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArionStar-20250128232100-BilboBeggins-20250128225500"></span>No. Just "<a href="/wiki/Alexander_Lukashenko" title="Alexander Lukashenko">Alexander Lukashenko</a> <i>(pictured)</i> is declared to be the winner of the <b><a href="/wiki/2025_Belarusian_presidential_election" title="2025 Belarusian presidential election"> Belarusian presidential election</a></b>, securing a seventh term" is enough. <a href="/wiki/User:ArionStar" class="mw-redirect" title="User:ArionStar">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20250128232100-BilboBeggins-20250128225500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:21, 28 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArionStar-20250128232100-BilboBeggins-20250128225500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250128232100","author":"ArionStar","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ArionStar-20250128232100-BilboBeggins-20250128225500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArionStar-20250128232100-BilboBeggins-20250128225500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Flipandflopped-20250129062200-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span>Strong support current blurb</b> Simply posting "Alexander Lukashenko won the election" is an objectively inaccurate and misleading description. Yes, elections are ITNR, but the oppression of opponents is also being widely reported on and is documented by verifiable sources: ergo, it is so independently notable as to merit an addendum to the blurb. Something being ITNR is not carte blanche for wikipedia to spread misinformation by omission. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped"><b style="color:Teal;">Flip</b></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped"><sup style="color:purple">and</sup></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped"><b style="color:lime">Flopped</b></a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"><b style="color:grey"> ツ</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20250129062200-ArionStar-20250126024700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:22, 29 January 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Flipandflopped-20250129062200-ArionStar-20250126024700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250129062200","author":"Flipandflopped","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Flipandflopped-20250129062200-ArionStar-20250126024700","replies":[],"displayName":"Flip"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Flipandflopped-20250129062200-ArionStar-20250126024700"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="References" data-mw-thread-id="h-References"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-References"></span>References<span data-mw-comment-end="h-References"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=52" title="Edit section: References"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-References","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>Nominators often include links to external websites and other references in discussions on this page. It is usually best to provide such links using the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:External_Links#How_to_link" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:External Links">inline URL syntax</a> <code>[http://example.com]</code> rather than using <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITE#How_to_format_inline_citations" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITE"><code><ref></ref></code> tags</a>, because that keeps all the relevant information in the same place as the nomination without having to jump to this section, and facilitates the archiving process. </p><p>For the times when <code><ref></ref></code> tags are being used, here are their contents: </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output 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