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class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Posted)_2024_Somaliland_presidential_election">(Posted) 2024 Somaliland presidential election</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8BCBC;">8,998</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">8,998 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Posted)_RD:_Diane_Coleman">(Posted) RD: Diane Coleman</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F4F4;">882</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">882 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Withdrawn)_Undersea_cables_incident">(Withdrawn) Undersea cables incident</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8E8E8;">2,726</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">2,726 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Posted)_RD:_Tony_Campolo">(Posted) RD: Tony Campolo</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8DADA;">4,625</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">4,625 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Posted)_Hīkoi_mō_te_Tiriti">(Posted) Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:red;">36,067</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">36,067 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#(Posted)_Hong_Kong_47">(Posted) Hong Kong 47</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8DBDB;">4,484</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">4,484 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#RD:_Shuntarō_Tanikawa">RD: Shuntarō Tanikawa</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8EDED;">1,876</td> <td style="text-align:right;color:transparent;">1,876 </td></tr> <tr> <td><a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#References">References</a></td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F5F5;">830</td> <td style="text-align:right;background:#F8F5F5;font-weight:bold;">830 </td></tr> <tr> <th>Total</th> <th style="text-align:right">199,998</th> <th 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href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)">Israel–Hezbollah conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon" title="2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon">2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Israel%E2%80%93Lebanon_ceasefire_agreement" title="2024 Israel–Lebanon ceasefire agreement">2024 Israel–Lebanon ceasefire agreement</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Security_Cabinet_of_Israel" title="Security Cabinet of Israel">Security Cabinet of Israel</a> agrees to a 60-day <a href="/wiki/Ceasefire" title="Ceasefire">ceasefire</a> in <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-hezbollah-ceasefire-deal-gaza-war-11-26-24-intl-hnk/index.html">(CNN)</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/biden-to-soon-give-white-house-address-thats-expected-to-address-israel-hezbollah-truce/">(The Times of Israel)</a></li> <li>Outgoing <a href="/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_State" title="United States Secretary of State">U.S. Secretary of State</a> <a href="/wiki/Antony_Blinken" title="Antony Blinken">Antony Blinken</a> says that ceasefire talks are reaching the final stages and that a deal could happen soon. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241126-blinken-says-lebanon-ceasefire-talks-in-final-stages">(France24)</a></li></ul></li> <li>For the first time since the start of the conflict, the <a href="/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces" title="Israel Defense Forces">Israeli military</a> issues <a href="/wiki/Emergency_evacuation" title="Emergency evacuation">evacuation</a> orders for central <a href="/wiki/Beirut" title="Beirut">Beirut</a>, warning residents of four neighbourhoods to leave as soon as possible. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/in-first-idf-issues-evacuation-warnings-for-buildings-in-central-beirut/">(The Times of Israel)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Eastern_front_of_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Eastern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine">Eastern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Kurakhove" title="Battle of Kurakhove">Battle of Kurakhove</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces" title="Russian Armed Forces">Russian forces</a> enter the strategic city of <a href="/wiki/Kurakhove" title="Kurakhove">Kurakhove</a> in <a href="/wiki/Donetsk_Oblast" title="Donetsk Oblast">Donetsk Oblast</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a>, with heavy fighting reportedly underway. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2024/11/26/russia-advances-in-ukraine-at-rapid-pace-moving-into-kurakhove-analysts-">(Al Arabiya)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Somali_Civil_War_(2009%E2%80%93present)" title="Somali Civil War (2009–present)">Somali Civil War (2009–present)</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Puntland%E2%80%93Somaliland_dispute" title="Puntland–Somaliland dispute">Puntland–Somaliland dispute</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Las_Anod_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Las Anod conflict (2023–present)">Spillover of Las Anod conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Somaliland" title="Somaliland">Somaliland</a> imposed a curfew after a deadly clash escalated between Somaliland and civilians that resulted in nine casualties and others injured in <a href="/wiki/Erigavo" title="Erigavo">Erigavo</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sanaag" title="Sanaag">Sanaag</a> region of <a href="/wiki/Somalia" title="Somalia">Somalia</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.idilnews.com/sanaag-clashes-in-erigavo-leave-nine-dead-and-several-injured/">(Idil News)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2024/Nov/199080/somaliland_imposes_curfew_in_erigavo_after_deadly_clashes.aspx">(Hiiraan Online)</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://horseedmedia.net/violence-erupts-in-erigavo-somaliland-curfew-imposed-396049">(Horseed Media)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Arrest_of_Imran_Khan" title="Arrest of Imran Khan">Arrest of Imran Khan</a> <ul><li>Six people, including four paramilitary soldiers, are killed in clashes between security forces and supporters of former <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Pakistan" title="Prime Minister of Pakistan">Pakistani Prime Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Imran_Khan" title="Imran Khan">Imran Khan</a> in <a href="/wiki/Islamabad" title="Islamabad">Islamabad</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a>. The protests, led by Khan's <a href="/wiki/Pakistan_Tehreek-e-Insaf" title="Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf">Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf</a>, are calling for the immediate release of Khan from prison. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/four-paramilitary-troops-killed-attacks-pakistan-capital-interior-ministry-says-2024-11-26/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Ten people are killed by unidentified gunmen in <a href="/wiki/Bria,_Central_African_Republic" title="Bria, Central African Republic">Bria</a>, <a href="/wiki/Haute-Kotto" title="Haute-Kotto">Haute-Kotto</a>, <a href="/wiki/Central_African_Republic" title="Central African Republic">Central African Republic</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/central-african-republic-mining-wagner-cpc-42bf3508ecbda1435c9bb4270a53d179">(AP)</a></li></ul> Disasters and accidents <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Winter_of_2024%E2%80%9325_in_the_Gaza_Strip" title="Winter of 2024–25 in the Gaza Strip">Winter of 2024–25 in the Gaza Strip</a> <ul><li>A <a href="/wiki/Winter_storm" title="Winter storm">winter storm</a> floods <a href="/wiki/Refugee_camps" class="mw-redirect" title="Refugee camps">refugee camps</a> across the <a href="/wiki/Gaza_Strip" title="Gaza Strip">Gaza Strip</a>, leading to several thousands of <a href="/wiki/Refugee_shelter" title="Refugee shelter">shelters</a> being damaged or destroyed, worsening refugee exposure to cold and illness. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/rainstorms-flood-tents-gazas-displaced-israel-steps-up-strikes-2024-11-25/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Red_Sea_tourist_boat_disaster" title="2024 Red Sea tourist boat disaster">2024 Red Sea tourist boat disaster</a> <ul><li>Four people are found dead and five are rescued alive after the sinking of a tourist boat yesterday in <a href="/wiki/Marsa_Alam" title="Marsa Alam">Marsa Alam</a>, <a href="/wiki/Red_Sea_Governorate" title="Red Sea Governorate">Red Sea Governorate</a>, <a href="/wiki/Egypt" title="Egypt">Egypt</a>. Seven others are still missing. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/26/bodies-recovered-from-capsized-tourist-boat-in-red-sea">(The Guardian)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Five people are killed and 20 others are reported missing after a <a href="/wiki/Motorboat" title="Motorboat">motorboat</a> capsizes in <a href="/wiki/Warri" title="Warri">Warri</a>, <a href="/wiki/Delta_State" title="Delta State">Delta State</a>, <a href="/wiki/Nigeria" title="Nigeria">Nigeria</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/nigeria-boat-accident-leaves-five-dead-20-missing-2024-11-26/">(Reuters)</a></li> <li>Five people are killed and one more is in critical condition when a <a href="/wiki/Cessna_206_Stationair" class="mw-redirect" title="Cessna 206 Stationair">Cessna 206 Stationair</a> aircraft crashes into the <a href="/wiki/Pico_Blanco" title="Pico Blanco">Pico Blanco</a> mountain near <a href="/wiki/San_Jose,_Costa_Rica" class="mw-redirect" title="San Jose, Costa Rica">San Jose</a>, <a href="/wiki/Costa_Rica" title="Costa Rica">Costa Rica</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/costa-rica-plane-crash-kills-5/a-70884491">(DW)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://ticotimes.net/2024/11/26/five-dead-in-costa-rica-plane-crash-at-pico-blanco">(The Tico Times)</a></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li><a href="/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Hong_Kong" title="LGBT rights in Hong Kong">LGBT rights in Hong Kong</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Chief_justice" title="Chief justice">Chief justice</a> <a href="/wiki/Andrew_Cheung" title="Andrew Cheung">Andrew Cheung</a> of the <a href="/wiki/Hong_Kong" title="Hong Kong">Hong Kong</a> <a href="/wiki/Hong_Kong_Court_of_Final_Appeal" title="Hong Kong Court of Final Appeal">Court of Final Appeal</a> rules to uphold <a href="/wiki/Right_to_housing" title="Right to housing">housing</a> and <a href="/wiki/Inheritance" title="Inheritance">inheritance</a> rights for <a href="/wiki/Same-sex_couples" class="mw-redirect" title="Same-sex couples">same-sex couples</a> in the city. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/26/hong-kongs-top-court-rules-in-favour-of-same-sex-couple-rights">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Politics and elections <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Bangladesh_Police" title="Bangladesh Police">Bangladesh Police</a> fire <a href="/wiki/Tear_gas" title="Tear gas">tear gas</a> at more than 2,000 <a href="/wiki/Hinduism_in_Bangladesh" title="Hinduism in Bangladesh">Hindus</a> protesting against the arrest of a Hindu leader and <a href="/wiki/International_Society_for_Krishna_Consciousness" title="International Society for Krishna Consciousness">ISKCON</a> monk at the <a href="/wiki/Hazrat_Shahjalal_International_Airport" title="Hazrat Shahjalal International Airport">Hazrat Shahjalal International Airport</a> in <a href="/wiki/Dhaka" title="Dhaka">Dhaka</a> on <a href="/wiki/Sedition" title="Sedition">sedition</a> charges. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/krishna-das-prabhu-hindu-leader-and-iskcon-monk-arrested-in-bangladesh-who-is-he-101732543091203.html">(Hindustan Times)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/26/bangladesh-police-clash-with-protesters-as-hindu-leader-detained">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul> Science and technology <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Japanese_space_program" title="Japanese space program">Japanese space program</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/JAXA" title="JAXA">JAXA</a> aborts a <a href="/wiki/Epsilon_(rocket)" title="Epsilon (rocket)">Epsilon S</a> engine test after a fire breaks out at the <a href="/wiki/Tanegashima_Space_Center" title="Tanegashima Space Center">Tanegashima Space Center</a> on <a href="/wiki/Tanegashima" title="Tanegashima">Tanegashima</a>, <a href="/wiki/Japan" title="Japan">Japan</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/japan-space-agency-aborts-epsilon-s-rocket-test-after-fire/a-70884908">(DW)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.channelnewsasia.com/east-asia/japan-tanegashima-space-center-rocket-engine-testing-halted-fire-4770551">(CNA)</a></li></ul></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Israel-Lebanon_Ceasefire" data-mw-thread-id="h-Israel-Lebanon_Ceasefire-November_26-20241126203800">Israel-Lebanon Ceasefire</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Israel-Lebanon Ceasefire">edit</a>]</div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248495340">.mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate{border:1px solid #a3b1bf;color:inherit;padding:6px;height:auto;overflow:auto}.mw-parser-output .ITNCandidate-default{background-color:#e6f2ff}.mw-parser-output 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_Israel%E2%80%93Lebanon_ceasefire_agreement&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Israel%E2%80%93Lebanon+ceasefire+agreement">tag</a>) Blurb: Israel and Lebanon agree to <a href="/wiki/2024_Israel%E2%80%93Lebanon_ceasefire_agreement" title="2024 Israel–Lebanon ceasefire agreement">a 60-day ceasefire agreement</a> to halt <a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)">the war in Lebanon</a> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hezbollah-ceasefire-netanyahu-war-lebanon-gaza-hamas/">CBS</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Knightoftheswords281" title="User:Knightoftheswords281">Knightoftheswords281</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knightoftheswords281" title="User talk:Knightoftheswords281">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Knightoftheswords281&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Israel%E2%80%93Lebanon+ceasefire+agreement%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Israel%E2%80%93Lebanon+ceasefire+agreement&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:Noble_Attempt" title="User:Noble Attempt">Noble Attempt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noble_Attempt" title="User talk:Noble Attempt">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Noble_Attempt&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Israel%E2%80%93Lebanon+ceasefire+agreement%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Israel%E2%80%93Lebanon+ceasefire+agreement&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Noble_Attempt" title="User:Noble Attempt">Noble Attempt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noble_Attempt" title="User talk:Noble Attempt">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Noble_Attempt&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Israel%E2%80%93Lebanon+ceasefire+agreement%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Israel%E2%80%93Lebanon+ceasefire+agreement&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div>Nominator's comments: A ceasefire agreement between the two countries is expected to enter into force tomorrow. Article seems decent. — <a href="/wiki/User:Knightoftheswords281" title="User:Knightoftheswords281">Knightof</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knightoftheswords281" title="User talk:Knightoftheswords281">theswords</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Knightoftheswords281-20241126203800-Israel-Lebanon_Ceasefire" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support A major development. If the ceasefire agreement is actually implemented in the manner claimed by Netanyahu and Biden, it would mean the reclamation of control by the Lebanese army and effectively the end of Hezbollah military dominance in most of southern Lebanon. I am fine to wait until tomorrow if necessary to see if the ceasefire agreement is ultimately accepted by all parties - but assuming it is successfully entered into, then this should be posted. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241126205300-Knightoftheswords281-20241126203800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose on quality only. The background has far too much focus on the conflict where this should use summaries more and point to relevant pages via main/seealso templates. There should be more on the past efforts to organize a ceasefire, including nations involved (here, this being US and France). <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241126211400-Knightoftheswords281-20241126203800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support First ceasefire since the start of the conflict over a year ago, and is a major development of the conflict. <a href="/wiki/User:TheHiddenCity" title="User:TheHiddenCity">TheHiddenCity</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheHiddenCity" title="User talk:TheHiddenCity">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheHiddenCity-20241126223300-Knightoftheswords281-20241126203800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Jim_Abrahams" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Jim_Abrahams-November_26-20241126194000">RD: Jim Abrahams</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: RD: Jim Abrahams">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Jim_Abrahams" title="Jim Abrahams">Jim Abrahams</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Jim_Abrahams" title="Talk:Jim Abrahams">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jim_Abrahams&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jim_Abrahams&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Jim+Abrahams">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://deadline.com/2024/11/jim-abrahams-dead-airplane-naked-gun-1236187854/">Deadline Hollywood</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJim+Abrahams%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Jim+Abrahams&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: part of the Zucker, Abrahams, Zucker trio that produced comedy films like Airplane! Article needs more sources <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241126194000-RD:_Jim_Abrahams" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_John_Tinniswood" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_John_Tinniswood-November_26-20241126150500">RD: John Tinniswood</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: RD: John Tinniswood">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/John_Tinniswood" title="John Tinniswood">John Tinniswood</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:John_Tinniswood" title="Talk:John Tinniswood">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Tinniswood&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:John_Tinniswood&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=John+Tinniswood">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): [<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crk43k54mk0o">[1]</a>], [<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/26/uk/oldest-man-john-tinniswood-death-scli-intl/index.html">[2]</a>] Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Julius_Barclay" title="User:Julius Barclay">Julius Barclay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Julius_Barclay" title="User talk:Julius Barclay">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Julius_Barclay&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJohn+Tinniswood%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=John+Tinniswood&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: World's oldest man, oldest surviving World War II Veteran, died Monday aged 112. Was oldest man since 29 June 2024. <a href="/wiki/User:Julius_Barclay" title="User:Julius Barclay">Julius Barclay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Julius_Barclay" title="User talk:Julius Barclay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Julius_Barclay-20241126150500-RD:_John_Tinniswood" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Jan_Furtok" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Jan_Furtok-November_26-20241126172500">RD: Jan Furtok</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: RD: Jan Furtok">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Jan_Furtok" title="Jan Furtok">Jan Furtok</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Jan_Furtok" title="Talk:Jan Furtok">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jan_Furtok&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jan_Furtok&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Jan+Furtok">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.polskieradio.pl/395/7790/Artykul/3450995,jan-furtok-former-polish-national-team-footballer-dies-at-62">Polish Radio</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Abcmaxx&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJan+Furtok%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Jan+Furtok&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: The article could be easily expanded, doesn't convey nearly enough that he was one of Poland’s best ever players. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241126172500-RD:_Jan_Furtok" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="November_25" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_25-20241124170400">November 25</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: November 25">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Current_events/2024_November_25" title="Portal:Current events/2024 November 25">Portal:Current events/2024 November 25</a></div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248507241"><div class="current-events"> <div role="region" aria-label="November 25" id="2024_November_25" class="current-events-main vevent"> <div class="current-events-heading plainlinks"> <div class="current-events-title" role="heading">November 25, 2024 (2024-11-25) (Monday) </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_25&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_25&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_25&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> Armed conflicts and attacks <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Haitian_crisis_(2018%E2%80%93present)" title="Haitian crisis (2018–present)">Haitian crisis</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/United_Nations" title="United Nations">United Nations</a> orders its staff to evacuate from <a href="/wiki/Port-au-Prince" title="Port-au-Prince">Port-au-Prince</a>, <a href="/wiki/Haiti" title="Haiti">Haiti</a>, as clashes between <a href="/wiki/Gang_war_in_Haiti" title="Gang war in Haiti">armed gangs</a>, <a href="/wiki/Haitian_National_Police" title="Haitian National Police">police</a>, and civilian vigilantes escalate in the city. Nonprofit organization <a href="/wiki/Food_for_the_Poor" title="Food for the Poor">Food for the Poor</a> also ceases operations in Haiti due to gang disruptions. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/25/un-evacuation-in-haiti-police-assault-stronghold-of-gang-leader-barbecue">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Business and economy <ul><li><a href="/wiki/German_economic_crisis_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="German economic crisis (2022–present)">German economic crisis</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Germany" title="Germany">Germany</a>'s largest <a href="/wiki/Steelmaking" title="Steelmaking">steelmaker</a> conglomerate <a href="/wiki/ThyssenKrupp" title="ThyssenKrupp">ThyssenKrupp</a> announces plans to <a href="/wiki/Layoff" title="Layoff">layoff</a> 11,000 workers, including 5,000 in <a href="/wiki/Europe" title="Europe">Europe</a>, by 2030. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/german-steel-giant-thyssenkrupp-to-slash-11000-jobs/a-70880227">(DW)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Disasters and accidents <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024%E2%80%9325_Australian_region_cyclone_season" title="2024–25 Australian region cyclone season">2024–25 Australian region cyclone season</a> <ul><li>Sixteen people are killed and six others are missing in <a href="/wiki/Flash_flood" title="Flash flood">flash floods</a> caused by <a href="/wiki/Tropical_Low_01U_(2024)" title="Tropical Low 01U (2024)">Tropical Low 01U</a> in <a href="/wiki/Sumatra" title="Sumatra">Sumatra</a>, <a href="/wiki/Indonesia" title="Indonesia">Indonesia</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/indonesia-north-sumatra-flash-floods-landslide-df987590034f68545597a2e917fc82e9">(AP)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-41523464.html">(The Irish Examiner)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Red_Sea_tourist_boat_disaster" title="2024 Red Sea tourist boat disaster">2024 Red Sea tourist boat disaster</a> <ul><li>Sixteen people are missing and 28 others are rescued after a boat carrying tourists sinks off the coast of <a href="/wiki/Marsa_Alam" title="Marsa Alam">Marsa Alam</a>, <a href="/wiki/Red_Sea_Governorate" title="Red Sea Governorate">Red Sea Governorate</a>, <a href="/wiki/Egypt" title="Egypt">Egypt</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2m7z9xpndo.amp">(BBC News)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Swiftair_Flight_5960" title="Swiftair Flight 5960">Swiftair Flight 5960</a> <ul><li>One crew member is killed and three others are injured when a <a href="/wiki/DHL_Aviation" title="DHL Aviation">DHL</a> <a href="/wiki/Boeing_737-400F" class="mw-redirect" title="Boeing 737-400F">Boeing 737-400F</a> <a href="/wiki/Cargo_plane" class="mw-redirect" title="Cargo plane">cargo plane</a> operated by <a href="/wiki/Swiftair" title="Swiftair">Swiftair</a> crashes into the ground near a residential building while approaching <a href="/wiki/Vilnius_Airport" title="Vilnius Airport">Vilnius Airport</a> in <a href="/wiki/Lithuania" title="Lithuania">Lithuania</a>. No one on the ground is injured. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/dhl-cargo-plane-crashes-near-vilnius-airport-2024-11-25/">(Reuters)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/lithuania-dhl-freight-plane-crashes-near-vilnius-airport/a-70875160">(DW)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Nine <a href="/wiki/Economic_migrant" title="Economic migrant">migrants</a>, including six children, are killed and 39 others are rescued from a <a href="/wiki/Shipwreck" title="Shipwreck">shipwreck</a> off the coast of <a href="/wiki/Samos" title="Samos">Samos</a>, <a href="/wiki/Greece" title="Greece">Greece</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/25/several-migrants-drown-in-shipwreck-off-greek-island-of-samos">(Al Jazeera)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://tribune.com.pk/story/2511856/nine-including-six-children-die-in-separate-boat-sinkings-in-near-greece">(The Express Tribune)</a></li></ul> International relations <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Afghanistan%E2%80%93Russia_relations" title="Afghanistan–Russia relations">Afghanistan–Russia relations</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Secretary_of_the_Security_Council_of_Russia" title="Secretary of the Security Council of Russia">Secretary of the Security Council of Russia</a> <a href="/wiki/Sergei_Shoigu" title="Sergei Shoigu">Sergei Shoigu</a> pledges <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a>'s intent to build closer ties with the <a href="/wiki/Taliban" title="Taliban">Taliban</a> <a href="/wiki/Government_of_Afghanistan" title="Government of Afghanistan">Government of Afghanistan</a>, and states that the <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> should lead rebuilding efforts due to its part in the <a href="/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%932021)" title="War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)">War in Afghanistan</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-pledges-broader-afghanistan-ties-says-us-should-help-rebuild-2024-11-26/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Foreign ministers of the <a href="/wiki/G7" title="G7">G7</a> nations hold a meeting in <a href="/wiki/Fiuggi" title="Fiuggi">Fiuggi</a> and <a href="/wiki/Anagni" title="Anagni">Anagni</a>, <a href="/wiki/Italy" title="Italy">Italy</a>, to discuss <a href="/wiki/Ceasefire" title="Ceasefire">ceasefire</a> efforts between <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israel</a> and <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a> as well as the <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court" title="International Criminal Court">International Criminal Court</a>'s <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Israeli_figures" title="International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures">arrest warrants</a> for <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Israel" title="Prime Minister of Israel">Israeli Prime Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu" title="Benjamin Netanyahu">Benjamin Netanyahu</a> and <a href="/wiki/Hamas" title="Hamas">Hamas</a> <a href="/wiki/Al-Qassam_Brigades" title="Al-Qassam Brigades">military chief</a> <a href="/wiki/Mohammed_Deif" title="Mohammed Deif">Mohammed Deif</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.digitaljournal.com/world/g7-ministers-discuss-ceasefire-efforts-in-mideast/article#ixzz8sdiiSSt">(Digital Journal)</a></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Censorship_in_Australia" title="Censorship in Australia">Censorship in Australia</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Parliament_of_Australia" title="Parliament of Australia">Australian Parliament</a> vetoes a bill that would authorize the <a href="/wiki/Australian_Communications_and_Media_Authority" title="Australian Communications and Media Authority">Australian Communications and Media Authority</a> to implement detailed <a href="/wiki/Surveillance" title="Surveillance">surveillance</a> on <a href="/wiki/Digital_platform_(infrastructure)" title="Digital platform (infrastructure)">digital platforms</a> and enforce anti-<a href="/wiki/Misinformation" title="Misinformation">misinformation</a> punitive measures on them, which opposition politicians condemn as "<a href="/wiki/Censorship" title="Censorship">censorship laws</a>" and a betrayal to <a href="/wiki/Democracy" title="Democracy">democracy</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/australia-misinformation-bill-tech-1625518609bcc407c63c9934b6a2a848">(AP)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Indictments_against_Donald_Trump" title="Indictments against Donald Trump">Indictments against Donald Trump</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/United_States_federal_judge" title="United States federal judge">U.S. federal judge</a> <a href="/wiki/Tanya_Chutkan" title="Tanya Chutkan">Tanya Chutkan</a> of the <a href="/wiki/United_States_District_Court_for_the_District_of_Columbia" title="United States District Court for the District of Columbia">District Court for the District of Columbia</a> dismisses the two criminal cases by <a href="/wiki/Jack_Smith_(lawyer)" title="Jack Smith (lawyer)">Jack Smith</a> against <a href="/wiki/President-elect_of_the_United_States" title="President-elect of the United States">President-elect</a> <a href="/wiki/Donald_Trump" title="Donald Trump">Donald Trump</a>, including the <a href="/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_classified_documents_prosecution" title="Mar-a-Lago classified documents prosecution">classified documents case</a> and <a href="/wiki/Federal_prosecution_of_Donald_Trump_(election_obstruction_case)" title="Federal prosecution of Donald Trump (election obstruction case)">the case</a> involving <a href="/wiki/Attempts_to_overturn_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election" title="Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election">Trump's efforts</a> to overturn his defeat to <a href="/wiki/President_of_the_United_States" title="President of the United States">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Joe_Biden" title="Joe Biden">Joe Biden</a> in the <a href="/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election" title="2020 United States presidential election">2020 presidential election</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jack-smith-dismiss-charges-trump-d-c-election-case/">(CBS News)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/25/jack-smith-drops-case-trump-election-00191514">(Politico)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Five people are killed in a <a href="/wiki/Mass_shooting" title="Mass shooting">mass shooting</a> in <a href="/wiki/Saint_Andrew_Parish,_Jamaica" title="Saint Andrew Parish, Jamaica">Saint Andrew</a>, <a href="/wiki/Kingston,_Jamaica" title="Kingston, Jamaica">Kingston, Jamaica</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/jamaica-mass-shooting-five-killed-8b084e634a50230a12678814a30b63ef">(AP)</a></li></ul> Politics and elections <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Jubaland_presidential_election" title="2024 Jubaland presidential election">2024 Jubaland presidential election</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Jubaland" title="Jubaland">Jubaland</a> House of Representatives re-elects incumbent <a href="/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_Jubaland" title="List of presidents of Jubaland">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Ahmed_Madobe" class="mw-redirect" title="Ahmed Madobe">Ahmed Madobe</a> for the third time amid tensions with the <a href="/wiki/Somali_federal_government" class="mw-redirect" title="Somali federal government">Somali federal government</a> that resulted in <a href="/wiki/Somali_National_Army" title="Somali National Army">armed forces</a> being deployed to <a href="/wiki/Kamboni" title="Kamboni">Kamboni</a>, <a href="/wiki/Badhadhe_District" title="Badhadhe District">Badhadhe District</a>, <a href="/wiki/Lower_Juba" title="Lower Juba">Lower Juba</a>, <a href="/wiki/Somalia" title="Somalia">Somalia</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.barrons.com/articles/somalia-s-jubaland-leader-at-odds-with-mogadishu-wins-third-term-1b9a5fdd">(AFP)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.garoweonline.com/en/news/somalia/somalia-ahmed-madobe-romps-to-victory-in-jubaland">(Garowe Online)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://eastleighvoice.co.ke/somalia/92421/ahmed-madobe-re-elected-as-jubaland-president-for-a-third-term">(The Eastleigh Voice)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Science and technology <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Microsoft" title="Microsoft">Microsoft</a> reports widespread outages across <a href="/wiki/Microsoft_Outlook" title="Microsoft Outlook">Outlook</a>, <a href="/wiki/Microsoft_Teams" title="Microsoft Teams">Teams</a>, and other <a href="/wiki/Microsoft_365" title="Microsoft 365">365</a> programs. The outages are later resolved during the evening. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/11/25/microsoft-outage-outlook-and-teams-restoration-time-unclear-as-company-deploys-fix/">(Forbes)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/25/tech/microsofts-outlook-teams-outage/index.html">(CNN)</a></li></ul> Sports <ul><li>In <a href="/wiki/Auto_racing" title="Auto racing">auto racing</a>, <a href="/wiki/Formula_One" title="Formula One">Formula One</a> announces that <a href="/wiki/General_Motors" title="General Motors">General Motors</a> will join the grid as a <a href="/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_constructors" title="List of Formula One constructors">constructor</a> under the <a href="/wiki/Cadillac_Formula_One_Team" class="mw-redirect" title="Cadillac Formula One Team">Cadillac Team</a> beginning in the <a href="/wiki/2026_Formula_One_World_Championship" title="2026 Formula One World Championship">2026 season</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/statement-on-general-motors-application-to-join-fia-formula-one-world.69uoRF1uwHwXkr4efkpnhc">(Formula 1)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://frontofficesports.com/formula-one-will-add-gm-to-grid-as-cadillac-by-2026/">(Front Office Sports)</a></li> <li>In <a href="/wiki/Cricket_(sport)" class="mw-redirect" title="Cricket (sport)">cricket</a>, <a href="/wiki/Batting_(cricket)" title="Batting (cricket)">batter</a> <a href="/wiki/Vaibhav_Suryavanshi" title="Vaibhav Suryavanshi">Vaibhav Suryavanshi</a> becomes the youngest player to sign with the <a href="/wiki/Indian_Premier_League" title="Indian Premier League">Indian Premier League</a> at the age of 13. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/cricket-13-year-old-becomes-youngest-ipl-auction-signing/a-70882497">(DW)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/vaibhav-suryavanshi-13-becomes-youngest-player-to-be-bought-at-ipl-auction-sold-to-rr-for-inr-1-10-crore-101732547104362.html">(Hindustan Times)</a></li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_2024" title="World Chess Championship 2024">World Chess Championship 2024</a> starts in <a href="/wiki/Singapore" title="Singapore">Singapore</a> with <a href="/wiki/Ding_Liren" title="Ding Liren">Ding Liren</a> winning with black against <a href="/wiki/Gukesh_Dommaraju" title="Gukesh Dommaraju">Gukesh Dommaraju</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.fide.com/news/3320">(FIDE)</a></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Mike_Hasenfratz" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Mike_Hasenfratz-November_25-20241126025000">RD: Mike Hasenfratz</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: RD: Mike Hasenfratz">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Mike_Hasenfratz" title="Mike Hasenfratz">Mike Hasenfratz</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Mike_Hasenfratz" title="Talk:Mike Hasenfratz">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mike_Hasenfratz&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mike_Hasenfratz&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Mike+Hasenfratz">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://leaderpost.com/sports/reginas-hockey-community-mourns-losses-of-referee-mike-hasenfratz-pats-champ-jim-minor">[3]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://chl.ca/whl/article/whl-mourns-passing-of-hasenfratz-former-whl-official-of-the-year/">[4]</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Flibirigit" title="User:Flibirigit">Flibirigit</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flibirigit" title="User talk:Flibirigit">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Flibirigit&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BMike+Hasenfratz%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Mike+Hasenfratz&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Pyropylon98" title="User:Pyropylon98">Pyropylon98</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pyropylon98" title="User talk:Pyropylon98">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pyropylon98&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BMike+Hasenfratz%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Mike+Hasenfratz&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Former referee in the National Hockey League <a href="/wiki/User:Flibirigit" title="User:Flibirigit">Flibirigit</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flibirigit" title="User talk:Flibirigit">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flibirigit-20241126025000-RD:_Mike_Hasenfratz" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:50, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support Short but adequate. No serious issues. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20241126032700-Flibirigit-20241126025000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:27, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Working on expansion. <a href="/wiki/User:Flibirigit" title="User:Flibirigit">Flibirigit</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flibirigit" title="User talk:Flibirigit">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flibirigit-20241126192500-Ad_Orientem-20241126032700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Nikki_Kaye" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Nikki_Kaye-November_25-20241126010700">RD: Nikki Kaye</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: RD: Nikki Kaye">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Nikki_Kaye" title="Nikki Kaye">Nikki Kaye</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Nikki_Kaye" title="Talk:Nikki Kaye">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nikki_Kaye&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nikki_Kaye&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Nikki+Kaye">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/534834/live-former-national-minister-nikki-kaye-dies-aged-44">Former National minister Nikki Kaye dies, aged 44</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede66</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Schwede66&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BNikki+Kaye%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Nikki+Kaye&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Former New Zealand MP; died aged 44 from cancer. Date of death is not known yet. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241126010700-RD:_Nikki_Kaye" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Oppose Significant amount of CN tags. 🛧<a href="/wiki/User:Midori_No_Sora" title="User:Midori No Sora">Midori No Sora♪</a>🛪 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Midori_No_Sora" title="User talk:Midori No Sora"> ☁＝☁＝✈</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Midori_No_Sora-20241126025700-Schwede66-20241126010700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:57, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support I have added some references to all but one of the CN tags to improve verifiability. Think article is in good enough shape now. <a href="/wiki/User:Kiwichris" title="User:Kiwichris">Kiwichris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kiwichris" title="User talk:Kiwichris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kiwichris-20241126051000-Schwede66-20241126010700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:10, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Swiftair_737_crashes_in_Lithuania" data-mw-thread-id="h-Swiftair_737_crashes_in_Lithuania-November_25-20241126003800">Swiftair 737 crashes in Lithuania</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Swiftair 737 crashes in Lithuania">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 171px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:EC-MFE_B734_Swiftair_MUC_20240718.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/EC-MFE_B734_Swiftair_MUC_20240718.jpg/171px-EC-MFE_B734_Swiftair_MUC_20240718.jpg" decoding="async" width="171" height="114" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/EC-MFE_B734_Swiftair_MUC_20240718.jpg/257px-EC-MFE_B734_Swiftair_MUC_20240718.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/EC-MFE_B734_Swiftair_MUC_20240718.jpg/342px-EC-MFE_B734_Swiftair_MUC_20240718.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3000" data-file-height="2000"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/Swiftair_Flight_5960" title="Swiftair Flight 5960">Swiftair Flight 5960</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Swiftair_Flight_5960" title="Talk:Swiftair Flight 5960">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Swiftair_Flight_5960&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Swiftair_Flight_5960&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Swiftair+Flight+5960">tag</a>) Blurb: A <a href="/wiki/Swiftair" title="Swiftair">Swiftair</a> <a href="/wiki/Boeing_737" title="Boeing 737">Boeing 737</a> (accident aircraft pictured) crashes near <a href="/wiki/Vilnius_Airport" title="Vilnius Airport">Vilnius Airport</a>, Lithuania, killing one pilot. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgr0v5rdnkzo">BBC</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.flightglobal.com/safety/one-crew-fatality-after-inbound-737-freighter-crashes-north-of-vilnius-airport-police/160873.article">FlightGlobal</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/25/europe/lithuania-dhl-cargo-plane-crash-vilnius-intl-hnk/index.html">CNN</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Aydoh8" title="User:Aydoh8">Aydoh8</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aydoh8" title="User talk:Aydoh8">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Aydoh8&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BSwiftair+Flight+5960%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Swiftair+Flight+5960&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:RandomInfinity17" title="User:RandomInfinity17">RandomInfinity17</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RandomInfinity17" title="User talk:RandomInfinity17">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RandomInfinity17&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BSwiftair+Flight+5960%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Swiftair+Flight+5960&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div>Nominator's comments: Very rare to see an airliner crashing in Europe. No immediate quality issues apart from a UGS tag which could easily be fixed. <a href="/wiki/User:Aydoh8" title="User:Aydoh8">Aydo</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aydoh8" title="User talk:Aydoh8">h8</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Aydoh8" title="Special:Contributions/Aydoh8">[contribs]</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Aydoh8-20241126003800-Swiftair_737_crashes_in_Lithuania" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:38, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I'd support this as a testament to the development of airliner crash safety; ten were involved in a crash of a cargo airliner and only one lost their life. Oppose for now because only one person died. Maybe if this becomes a wider incident like the <a href="/wiki/Maneuvering_Characteristics_Augmentation_System" title="Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System">737 plague</a> it'd be notable but as it is we're to a point where (at least in my opinion) large airplane crashes are not blurb-worthy. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241126011100-Aydoh8-20241126003800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:11, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose low number of fatalities/injuries as this was a cargo plane and does not seem like a systemic issue that would cause scrutiny of the aircraft line. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20241126013800-Aydoh8-20241126003800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:38, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose good faith nom. Only a single fatality and the long term significance of this event is doubtful. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20241126032600-Aydoh8-20241126003800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:26, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose per above. Thankfully a comparatively minor incident with low casualties. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241126035800-Aydoh8-20241126003800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:58, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Seems unlikely to be posted but it's in the news and we have a decent article about it. Attracted international coverage. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241126122900-Aydoh8-20241126003800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose good faith nom but only 1 fatality and pretty much everything above <a href="/wiki/User:TheAstorPastor" title="User:TheAstorPastor">The AP </a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheAstorPastor" title="User talk:TheAstorPastor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheAstorPastor-20241126172600-Aydoh8-20241126003800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Support it was a cargo plane, the only people on board where the pilots, casualties shouldn't be what keeps this from being posted. Article is of high quality, and this is getting global coverage in the news.</dd> <dd>It's a Boeing 737 crash, that alone should warrant inclusion. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241126200700-Aydoh8-20241126003800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Trump_Charges_Dismissed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Trump_Charges_Dismissed-November_25-20241125234100">Trump Charges Dismissed</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Trump Charges Dismissed">edit</a>]</div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1250141580">.mw-parser-output .archive-top{background-color:#EDEAFF;color:inherit;padding:0 0.6em;border:1px solid #8779DD}.mw-parser-output .archive-top-result .side-box-abovebelow{background-color:#c3c3c3;color:inherit;text-align:center;font-size:110%;font-weight:bold}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .archive-top{background-color:#181424;border:1px solid #8072d6;color:#fff}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .archive-top-result .side-box-abovebelow{background-color:#141126;color:#fff}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .archive-top{background-color:#181424;border:1px solid #8072d6;color:#fff}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .archive-top-result .side-box-abovebelow{background-color:#141126;color:#fff}}@media(min-width:640px){.mw-parser-output .archive-top-result{width:30%}}</style><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1235681985">.mw-parser-output .side-box{margin:4px 0;box-sizing:border-box;border:1px solid #aaa;font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em;background-color:var(--background-color-interactive-subtle,#f8f9fa);display:flow-root}.mw-parser-output .side-box-abovebelow,.mw-parser-output .side-box-text{padding:0.25em 0.9em}.mw-parser-output .side-box-image{padding:2px 0 2px 0.9em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .side-box-imageright{padding:2px 0.9em 2px 0;text-align:center}@media(min-width:500px){.mw-parser-output .side-box-flex{display:flex;align-items:center}.mw-parser-output .side-box-text{flex:1;min-width:0}}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .side-box{width:238px}.mw-parser-output .side-box-right{clear:right;float:right;margin-left:1em}.mw-parser-output .side-box-left{margin-right:1em}}</style><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">No consensus to post is forthcoming. Closing. <a href="/wiki/User:Isabelle_Belato" title="User:Isabelle Belato">Isabelle Belato</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Isabelle_Belato" title="User talk:Isabelle Belato">🏳‍🌈</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Isabelle_Belato-20241126203200-Trump_Charges_Dismissed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Indictments_against_Donald_Trump" title="Indictments against Donald Trump">Indictments against Donald Trump</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Indictments_against_Donald_Trump" title="Talk:Indictments against Donald Trump">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indictments_against_Donald_Trump&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Indictments_against_Donald_Trump&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Indictments+against+Donald+Trump">tag</a>) Blurb: <s>All remaining <a href="/wiki/Indictments_against_Donald_Trump" title="Indictments against Donald Trump">Federal criminal charges</a> against US president-elect <a href="/wiki/Donald_Trump" title="Donald Trump">Donald Trump</a> are dismissed.</s> (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: All remaining <a href="/wiki/Indictments_against_Donald_Trump" title="Indictments against Donald Trump">Federal criminal charges</a> against US president-elect <a href="/wiki/Donald_Trump" title="Donald Trump">Donald Trump</a> are dismissed without prejudice due to <a href="/wiki/Presidential_immunity_in_the_United_States" title="Presidential immunity in the United States">presidential immunity</a>. News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/trump-capitol-riot-justice-department-jack-smith-d6172cf98d8e03e099571c908267456c">AP</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ad_Orientem&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BIndictments+against+Donald+Trump%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Indictments+against+Donald+Trump&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article needs updating</div>Nominator's comments: Under normal circumstances I would not make or support this nomination. However, most of the indictments were posted on ITN against the very strong objection of some editors both on BLP grounds and the fact that it was contrary to our customary practice of only posting convictions. Under the circumstances, I think we need to take note of what is probably their final disposition. It is receiving front page coverage both in the US and abroad. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) 23:41, 25 November 2024 (UTC) -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20241125234100-Trump_Charges_Dismissed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I have struck my original blurb in favor of the alt which is much better. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20241126010200-Ad_Orientem-20241125234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>two wrongs don't make a right — <a href="/wiki/User:Hako9" title="User:Hako9">hako9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hako9" title="User talk:Hako9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Hako9-20241125234700-Ad_Orientem-20241125234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>True, but this is probably as close as we can get. The indictments should never have been posted and it is my sincere hope that we never do anything like that again. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20241125235000-Hako9-20241125234700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:50, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Oppose - consequence of a story we already posted, Trump winning the presidential election. The idea that a truly unprecedented event, a former president being indicted on criminal charges, should not have been posted is both a personal opinion and not relevant to whether or not this story should be posted. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy">nableezy</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20241125235400-Ad_Orientem-20241125234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>If you are going to post that someone is charged with a crime, and we certainly would have (and in one case correctly did) post any convictions, why would we not post the dismissal of the charges? (Unless the decisions involved were heavily motivated by a strong animus or a desire to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RGW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RGW">right great wrongs</a>.) -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20241126000100-Nableezy-20241125235400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:01, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Besides the utter lack of AGF in that parentheses, the reason is that one thing was unprecedented and treated as such across the globe, and the other is a predictable consequence of what we already posted. I wont return the favor of failing to AGF in making unsubstantiated claims about the motives of this nomination. And also, despite the claim that there is a probable final disposition of this story here, the charges were dismissed without prejudice, allowing them to be re-filed when Trumps presidency comes to an end. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy">nableezy</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20241126000800-Ad_Orientem-20241126000100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:08, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>So basically we can announce criminal indictments on the main page of one of the most trafficked websites in the world, and quietly ignore it when they go away? The fact that he was an ex-president is neither here nor there. He was entitled to the basic protections of BLP and we set aside our very longstanding practice of only posting convictions. And FTR my opinion of Donald Trump is unprintable. But I do believe in basic fairness, even for people I detest. I'm not going to relitigate what happened beyond that it was an egregious error that should not be compounded. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20241126002600-Nableezy-20241126000800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:26, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>It is here and there, that was an unprecedented event in US history. And sources treated it as such. The basic protections of BLP are to not say anything untrue about a public figure, and he was indicted. There was zero BLP issue in saying that. I dgaf what our very longstanding practice is, there is nothing in BLP that says we should not include what is verifiably true. And there is nothing in any guideline that says one of the biggest news stories of the year should not be on our front page section of In the News. BLP does not mean, and has never meant, we cannot include anything negative about a living person, it means we write conservatively and accurately. It was indisputably true that Donald Trump was indicted in several criminal cases and that he was the first former US president in history to have been indicted. There is 0 BLP issue in saying that, not in an article and not on the front page. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy">nableezy</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20241126004400-Ad_Orientem-20241126002600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:44, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose was foregone conclusion as soon as Trump was named the winner. Also a subtlety is that they are being dropped without prejudice, meaning they could be brought up once he is out of office, so it's not the true end of the story. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241126002100-Ad_Orientem-20241125234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:21, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>It was a forgone conclusion that Trump was going to face criminal indictments. We posted them anyway. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20241126002700-Masem-20241126002100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:27, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>No it wasn't, we had no way to predict how the grand jury, and Smith's subsequent actions, would go, because they didn't discuss them in public until court filings. Trump said numerous times that he would make the cases go away as president, and the DOJ has a standing policy that they cannot go after a sitting president, so that this happened like this was of zero surprise.. Only that Smith volunteered to end it before Trump took office might not have been part of it but the net result was. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241126003200-Ad_Orientem-20241126002700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Strong oppose current blurb If Trump's charges were dismissed on the merits or he was explicitly found not guilty, that would be one thing. Here, however, the blurb is actively misleading: the current phrasing, by omission, makes it sound like the case against Trump was dismissed on the merits. In fact, the opposite is true: the government initiated the motion to dismiss on a without prejudice basis while maintaining the strength of its case. The sole and only reason for this is the constitutional prohibition on prosecuting a sitting president. Per the Government's motion to dismiss: the dismissal "does not turn on the gravity of the crimes charged, the strength of the government's proof, or the merits of the prosecution, which the government stands fully behind". <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241126004000-Ad_Orientem-20241125234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:40, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Fair point. I tend to try and keep blurbs succinct but have no objections to an alt blurb if you would care to propose one. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20241126004200-Flipandflopped-20241126004000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:42, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>And a fair response, <a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a>. I have added an alt blurb. <s>I soft support alt blurb.</s> On the one hand, I think that this a foregone conclusion: if he won, this was always going to happen. On the other hand, I am generally an inclusionist when it comes to things making global headlines going on ITN. Given that we posted the indictment, I am inclined to support for reasons of balance. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241126005100-Ad_Orientem-20241126004200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:51, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Upon further review of the target article, I oppose on quality grounds per Andrew Davidson. The target article doesn't contain sufficient explanation & updated information corresponding to the info communicated in the blurb. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241126154600-Flipandflopped-20241126005100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Oppose for now per all above. Maybe I'd support if he actually went to prison in this time. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241126011200-Ad_Orientem-20241125234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:12, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose per MASEM. The process leading to the dismissal of charges was perhaps unexpected, but the fact of the matter is, the ultimate result of these cases with Trump as the sitting president likely wouldn't have had much actual impact, and I'd say the lack of a verdict is of even less impact in the end. <a href="/wiki/User:DarkSide830" title="User:DarkSide830">DarkSide830</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DarkSide830" title="User talk:DarkSide830">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-DarkSide830-20241126012600-Ad_Orientem-20241125234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:26, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose per all above. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241126060900-Ad_Orientem-20241125234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:09, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Oppose for the same reasons the 1 July 2024 SCOTUS decision on presidential immunity. Trump winning the presidential election is noteworthy, while this doesn't have the notability for ITN. <a href="/wiki/User:JohnAdams1800" title="User:JohnAdams1800">JohnAdams1800</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JohnAdams1800" title="User talk:JohnAdams1800">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-JohnAdams1800-20241126155200-The_Kip-20241126060900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Comment Procedurally, there's zero mention of this blurb at the bolded target.—<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20241126070900-Ad_Orientem-20241125234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:09, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose The nominated article has not been updated. And that article covers multiple proceedings and some are still open or are now proceeding to sentencing. We shouldn't run a headline saying that all charges have been dismissed when it's more complex than that. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241126084300-Ad_Orientem-20241125234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:43, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose per all above - wasn't this closed ? <a href="/wiki/User:TheAstorPastor" title="User:TheAstorPastor">The AP </a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheAstorPastor" title="User talk:TheAstorPastor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheAstorPastor-20241126172800-Ad_Orientem-20241125234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Oppose why is this still open? <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241126200500-Ad_Orientem-20241125234100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_2024_Sambhal_Violence,_Uttar_Pradesh,_India" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_2024_Sambhal_Violence,_Uttar_Pradesh,_India-November_25-20241125103600">(Closed) 2024 Sambhal Violence, Uttar Pradesh, India</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: (Closed) 2024 Sambhal Violence, Uttar Pradesh, India">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Very tragic that at least four people have died. However, there <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SNOW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SNOW">seems to be no chance</a> of posting this due to opposition on the basis of global significance. <a href="/wiki/User:Bremps" title="User:Bremps">Bremps</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bremps" title="User talk:Bremps">...</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bremps-20241125201600-(Closed)_2024_Sambhal_Violence,_Uttar_Pradesh,_India" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_Sambhal_Violence" class="mw-redirect" title="2024 Sambhal Violence">2024 Sambhal Violence</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_Sambhal_Violence" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:2024 Sambhal Violence">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_Sambhal_Violence&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_Sambhal_Violence&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Sambhal+Violence">tag</a>) Blurb: At least 4 people died and 30 injuries(20 police), Violent clashes in Uttar Pradesh, India (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3de7k5gk78o/">BBC</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.indiatoday.in/india/video/case-against-samajwadi-mp-for-inciting-sambhal-violence-4-people-killed-in-clashes-2639656-2024-11-25/">Indiatoday</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bareilly/sambhal-violence-death-toll-raises-to-five-fir-filed-as-police-recover-videos-of-masked-attackers/articleshow/115646638.cms/">Timesofindia</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/sambhal-violence-what-led-to-violent-clashes-curfew-that-left-five-dead/articleshow/115653382.cms?from=mdr/">Economic Times</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Spworld2" title="User:Spworld2">Spworld2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spworld2" title="User talk:Spworld2">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spworld2&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Sambhal+Violence%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Sambhal+Violence&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Spworld2" title="User:Spworld2">Spworld2</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spworld2" title="User talk:Spworld2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Spworld2-20241125170400-(Closed)_2024_Sambhal_Violence,_Uttar_Pradesh,_India" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] changed RD box to normal ITN box --<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:1700:4579:B80:9D1C:5ECE:9EEB:47FD" title="Special:Contributions/2600:1700:4579:B80:9D1C:5ECE:9EEB:47FD">2600:1700:4579:B80:9D1C:5ECE:9EEB:47FD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2600:1700:4579:B80:9D1C:5ECE:9EEB:47FD" title="User talk:2600:1700:4579:B80:9D1C:5ECE:9EEB:47FD">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-2600:1700:4579:B80:9D1C:5ECE:9EEB:47FD-20241125103600-(Closed)_2024_Sambhal_Violence,_Uttar_Pradesh,_India" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Oppose Without expansion, this seems like a small flare up in a country where such protests and conflicts are commonplace. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241125132500-2600:1700:4579:B80:9D1C:5ECE:9EEB:47FD-20241125103600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose Sad to say but such violence and riots are common in India; additionally, it is a small flare-up with only 4 deaths, thus not not worthy of ITN <a href="/wiki/User:TheAstorPastor" title="User:TheAstorPastor">The AP </a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheAstorPastor" title="User talk:TheAstorPastor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheAstorPastor-20241125132900-2600:1700:4579:B80:9D1C:5ECE:9EEB:47FD-20241125103600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose per all above. Tragic, but commonplace in a country like India. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20241125143000-2600:1700:4579:B80:9D1C:5ECE:9EEB:47FD-20241125103600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:30, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment Undecided on the nom but do we really need three comments belittling the world's largest democracy and trivialising the deaths as "only 4" in a "country like India"? <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241125145000-2600:1700:4579:B80:9D1C:5ECE:9EEB:47FD-20241125103600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>we are stating facts and not because it is “the world's largest democracy” we are not going to give it a special notoriety if they are recurrent events in that country. It is the same parameter we use to judge shootings in the United States or earthquakes in the Philippines. Since this is not a news-ticket portal, we should value it more for notoriety than for newsworthiness. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20241125145800-AusLondonder-20241125145000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>WP is not a newspaper and not every event, even those involving deaths, necessary need coverage, much less inclusion on the main page. How likely is this going to have enduring coverage and not just a burst of news? — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241125152300-AusLondonder-20241125145000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>I am an Indian myself, and I don't find any interpretation of any comment that is "belittling" the "world's largest democracy." Even though the incident is tragic, it has a low number of fatalities; as such, I didn't find it worthy for ITN. Also to note - such incidents are common and recurring in India sadly so we can't possibly include each of them to ITN <a href="/wiki/User:TheAstorPastor" title="User:TheAstorPastor">The AP </a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheAstorPastor" title="User talk:TheAstorPastor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheAstorPastor-20241125153300-AusLondonder-20241125145000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd>Soft oppose I'm not seeing this being reported outside of Indian news sources. It's terrible that people have died, but I just don't think this is a major enough event to warrant ITN posting. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241125163800-2600:1700:4579:B80:9D1C:5ECE:9EEB:47FD-20241125103600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="2024_Uruguayan_general_election" data-mw-thread-id="h-2024_Uruguayan_general_election-November_25-20241125033000">2024 Uruguayan general election</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: 2024 Uruguayan general election">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-ITNR"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 125px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:Yamand%C3%BA_Orsi_perfil_(cropped).png" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Yamand%C3%BA_Orsi_perfil_%28cropped%29.png/125px-Yamand%C3%BA_Orsi_perfil_%28cropped%29.png" decoding="async" width="125" height="158" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Yamand%C3%BA_Orsi_perfil_%28cropped%29.png/188px-Yamand%C3%BA_Orsi_perfil_%28cropped%29.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Yamand%C3%BA_Orsi_perfil_%28cropped%29.png/250px-Yamand%C3%BA_Orsi_perfil_%28cropped%29.png 2x" data-file-width="482" data-file-height="608"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_Uruguayan_general_election" title="2024 Uruguayan general election">2024 Uruguayan general election</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_Uruguayan_general_election" title="Talk:2024 Uruguayan general election">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_Uruguayan_general_election&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_Uruguayan_general_election&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Uruguayan+general+election">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/Yamand%C3%BA_Orsi" title="Yamandú Orsi">Yamandú Orsi</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Broad_Front_(Uruguay)" title="Broad Front (Uruguay)">Broad Front</a> wins the runoff to the <a href="/wiki/2024_Uruguayan_general_election" title="2024 Uruguayan general election">2024 Uruguayan general election</a> against <a href="/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_Delgado_(politician)" title="Álvaro Delgado (politician)">Álvaro Delgado</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Republican_Coalition" title="Republican Coalition">Republican Coalition</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: <a href="/wiki/Yamand%C3%BA_Orsi" title="Yamandú Orsi">Yamandú Orsi</a> (pictured) is <a href="/wiki/2024_Uruguayan_general_election" title="2024 Uruguayan general election">elected</a> <a href="/wiki/President_of_Uruguay" title="President of Uruguay">president of Uruguay</a> News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/25/yamandu-orsi-wins-uruguays-run-off-presidential-election">Al Jazeera</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/uruguay-presidential-election-yamandu-orsi-d3481a8bb23c49dc777cbdeb0db6aa5f">AP News</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Staraction" title="User:Staraction">Staraction</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staraction" title="User talk:Staraction">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Staraction&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Uruguayan+general+election%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Uruguayan+general+election&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:Fadesga" title="User:Fadesga">Fadesga</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fadesga" title="User talk:Fadesga">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fadesga&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Uruguayan+general+election%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Uruguayan+general+election&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Gbuvn" title="User:Gbuvn">Gbuvn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gbuvn" title="User talk:Gbuvn">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gbuvn&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Uruguayan+general+election%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Uruguayan+general+election&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>), <a href="/wiki/User:Fadesga" title="User:Fadesga">Fadesga</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fadesga" title="User talk:Fadesga">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fadesga&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Uruguayan+general+election%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Uruguayan+general+election&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>), <a href="/wiki/User:Loveisamoracle" title="User:Loveisamoracle">Loveisamoracle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Loveisamoracle" title="User talk:Loveisamoracle">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Loveisamoracle&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Uruguayan+general+election%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Uruguayan+general+election&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>), <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Segagustin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Segagustin (page does not exist)">Segagustin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Segagustin" title="User talk:Segagustin">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Segagustin&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Uruguayan+general+election%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Uruguayan+general+election&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Spaastm" title="User:Spaastm">Spaastm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spaastm" title="User talk:Spaastm">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spaastm&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Uruguayan+general+election%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Uruguayan+general+election&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> The nominated event is listed on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">WP:ITN/R</a>, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">WP:ITNCRIT</a>, not the significance.</div>Nominator's comments: I believe this is ITN/R as both a change in the president (according to AP News) and as the results of a general election. Please let me know if I'm missing something; thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Staraction" title="User:Staraction">Staraction</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staraction" title="User talk:Staraction">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Staraction" title="Special:Contributions/Staraction">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Staraction-20241125033000-2024_Uruguayan_general_election" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:30, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Comment <a href="/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_Delgado" class="mw-disambig" title="Álvaro Delgado">Álvaro Delgado</a> is a disambiguation link. I think you mean <a href="/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_Delgado_(politician)" title="Álvaro Delgado (politician)">Álvaro Delgado (politician)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:64.114_etc" title="User:64.114 etc">64.114</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:64.114_etc" title="User talk:64.114 etc">etc</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-64.114_etc-20241125040000-Staraction-20241125033000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Fixed - thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Staraction" title="User:Staraction">Staraction</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staraction" title="User talk:Staraction">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Staraction" title="Special:Contributions/Staraction">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Staraction-20241125071200-64.114_etc-20241125040000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:12, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose very little prose on campaign and aftermath. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241125063600-Staraction-20241125033000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose on quality Second half of the article is almost entirely tables. Needs more prose to be suitable for ITN. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241125071500-Staraction-20241125033000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Soft oppose the article only has a one sentence aftermath section and is mostly tables. It is ITN/R, so once that is cleaned up I'll change my vote. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241125163700-Staraction-20241125033000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Breyten_Breytenbach" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Breyten_Breytenbach-November_25-20241124170400">RD: Breyten Breytenbach</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: RD: Breyten Breytenbach">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Breyten_Breytenbach" title="Breyten Breytenbach">Breyten Breytenbach</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Breyten_Breytenbach" title="Talk:Breyten Breytenbach">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Breyten_Breytenbach&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Breyten_Breytenbach&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Breyten+Breytenbach">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2lzy87veno">[5]</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Plifal" title="User:Plifal">Plifal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Plifal" title="User talk:Plifal">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Plifal&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BBreyten+Breytenbach%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Breyten+Breytenbach&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Laterthanyouthink" title="User:Laterthanyouthink">Laterthanyouthink</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laterthanyouthink" title="User talk:Laterthanyouthink">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Laterthanyouthink&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BBreyten+Breytenbach%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Breyten+Breytenbach&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Nominator's comments: Important anti-apartheid activist and poet laureate. – <a href="/wiki/User:Plifal" title="User:Plifal">Plifal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Plifal#top" title="User talk:Plifal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Plifal-20241124170400-RD:_Breyten_Breytenbach" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Not Ready. Citation needed tags are in place. 🛧<a href="/wiki/User:Midori_No_Sora" title="User:Midori No Sora">Midori No Sora♪</a>🛪 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Midori_No_Sora" title="User talk:Midori No Sora"> ☁＝☁＝✈</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Midori_No_Sora-20241125061600-Plifal-20241124170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:16, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Soft support I only see one CN tag. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241125163600-Plifal-20241124170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support Properly cited. His works are their own citations. <a href="/wiki/User:Bremps" title="User:Bremps">Bremps</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bremps" title="User talk:Bremps">...</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bremps-20241125201200-Plifal-20241124170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:12, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support I have added significantly to this article since yesterday, and although there is no doubt more that could be added, I think it's ready to go. <a href="/wiki/User:Laterthanyouthink" title="User:Laterthanyouthink">Laterthanyouthink</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laterthanyouthink" title="User talk:Laterthanyouthink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Laterthanyouthink-20241126004400-Plifal-20241124170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:44, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support The article is ready for RD. --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20241126033400-Plifal-20241124170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:34, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Support. No citation needed tags when I looked just a few minutes ago. Putting this onto the main page might lead to some much-needed improvement... -- <a href="/wiki/User:SashiRolls" title="User:SashiRolls"> SashiRolls</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SashiRolls" title="User talk:SashiRolls"> 🌿 </a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SashiRolls" title="Special:Contributions/SashiRolls"> 🍥</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SashiRolls-20241126210500-Plifal-20241124170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Seems adequate to me, no CN Tags. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241126225600-Plifal-20241124170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:56, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="November_24" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_24-20241124041900">November 24</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: November 24">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Current_events/2024_November_24" title="Portal:Current events/2024 November 24">Portal:Current events/2024 November 24</a></div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248507241"><div class="current-events"> <div role="region" aria-label="November 24" id="2024_November_24" class="current-events-main vevent"> <div class="current-events-heading plainlinks"> <div class="current-events-title" role="heading">November 24, 2024 (2024-11-24) (Sunday) </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_24&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_24&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_24&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> Armed conflicts and attacks <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)">Israel–Hezbollah conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon" title="2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon">2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Basta_airstrikes" title="2024 Basta airstrikes">2024 Basta airstrikes</a> <ul><li>The death toll from yesterday's airstrike in <a href="/wiki/Basta,_Beirut" title="Basta, Beirut">Basta</a>, <a href="/wiki/Beirut" title="Beirut">Beirut</a>, <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a>, increases to 29 with 67 others injured. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/11/24/live-israeli-bombardment-kills-38-people-in-gaza-33-in-lebanon?update=3345724">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Tyre_airstrikes" title="2024 Tyre airstrikes">2024 Tyre airstrikes</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces" title="Israel Defense Forces">Israeli</a> <a href="/wiki/Artillery" title="Artillery">artillery</a> targets a <a href="/wiki/Lebanese_Armed_Forces" title="Lebanese Armed Forces">Lebanese Army</a> base in <a href="/wiki/Tyre_District" title="Tyre District">Tyre District</a>, Lebanon, killing one soldier and injuring 18 others. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanon-military-says-one-soldier-killed-18-hurt-israeli-strike-army-centre-2024-11-24/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Hezbollah" title="Hezbollah">Hezbollah</a> launches over 300 missiles at Israel, targeting the <a href="/wiki/Ashdod_Naval_Base" title="Ashdod Naval Base">Ashdod Naval Base</a> in <a href="/wiki/Ashdod" title="Ashdod">Ashdod</a> for the first time and injuring eleven people. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/24/hezbollah-says-it-hit-ashdod-naval-base-and-tel-aviv-three-wounded">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war" title="Israel–Hamas war">Israel–Hamas war</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Israeli_invasion_of_the_Gaza_Strip" title="Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip">Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip</a> <ul><li>At least six people are killed in <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israeli</a> attacks across the <a href="/wiki/Gaza_Strip" title="Gaza Strip">Gaza Strip</a>, one in the <a href="/wiki/Nuseirat_refugee_camp" title="Nuseirat refugee camp">Nuseirat refugee camp</a>, two in the <a href="/wiki/Maghazi_refugee_camp" title="Maghazi refugee camp">Maghazi refugee camp</a>, and three in <a href="/wiki/Rafah" title="Rafah">Rafah</a>. The <a href="/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces" title="Israel Defense Forces">Israel Defense Forces</a> issue a new <a href="/wiki/Gaza_Strip_evacuations" title="Gaza Strip evacuations">evacuation order</a> in <a href="/wiki/Shuja%27iyya" title="Shuja'iyya">Shuja'iyya</a>, <a href="/wiki/Gaza_City" title="Gaza City">Gaza City</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/24/israeli-attacks-kill-six-across-gaza-army-issues-new-evacuation-order">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Pakistani_general_election" title="2024 Pakistani general election">2024 Pakistani general election</a>, <a href="/wiki/Arrest_of_Imran_Khan" title="Arrest of Imran Khan">Arrest of Imran Khan</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_Pakistan" title="Law enforcement in Pakistan">Pakistani police</a> arrest thousands of supporters of jailed former <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Pakistan" title="Prime Minister of Pakistan">Prime Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Imran_Khan" title="Imran Khan">Imran Khan</a> ahead of a planned protest to demand for the release of Khan and other members of the <a href="/wiki/Pakistan_Tehreek-e-Insaf" title="Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf">Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf</a> party, along with the resignation of the current <a href="/wiki/Government_of_Pakistan" title="Government of Pakistan">government</a>. The capital city of <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a>, <a href="/wiki/Islamabad" title="Islamabad">Islamabad</a>, is placed under a <a href="/wiki/Preventive_action" title="Preventive action">security lockdown</a> before the protest takes place. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/pakistan-thousands-of-khan-supporters-reportedly-arrested/a-70870360">(DW)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/534727/islamabad-locked-down-ahead-of-protests-seeking-ex-pm-imran-khan-s-release">(RNZ)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Death_of_Zvi_Kogan" title="Death of Zvi Kogan">Death of Zvi Kogan</a> <ul><li>Missing <a href="/wiki/Israelis" title="Israelis">Israeli</a>-<a href="/wiki/Moldovans" title="Moldovans">Moldovan</a> <a href="/wiki/Rabbi" title="Rabbi">rabbi</a> <a href="/wiki/Death_of_Zvi_Kogan" title="Death of Zvi Kogan">Zvi Kogan</a> is found murdered in the <a href="/wiki/United_Arab_Emirates" title="United Arab Emirates">United Arab Emirates</a>, with three <a href="/wiki/Uzbekistan" title="Uzbekistan">Uzbek nationals</a> later arrested for the murder. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/24/world/middleeast/dubai-israeli-rabbi-disapperance.html">(The New York Times)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/nov/25/uae-nab-3-uzbek-nationals-killing-israeli-moldovan/">(The Washington Times)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Russia" title="LGBTQ rights in Russia">LGBTQ rights in Russia</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/President_of_Russia" title="President of Russia">Russian President</a> <a href="/wiki/Vladimir_Putin" title="Vladimir Putin">Vladimir Putin</a> signs a bill into law banning the adoption of <a href="/wiki/Russians" title="Russians">Russian</a> children by citizens of countries where <a href="/wiki/Gender_transition" title="Gender transition">gender transition</a> is legal. The bill also outlaws material that promotes <a href="/wiki/Childlessness" title="Childlessness">childlessness</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/russia-lgbtq-adoption-putin-b8d16be856d811458ef8d41f9017d8dd">(AP)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Masrour_Barzani" title="Masrour Barzani">Masrour Barzani</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Kurdistan_Region" title="Prime Minister of Kurdistan Region">Prime Minister</a> of <a href="/wiki/Kurdistan_Region" title="Kurdistan Region">Kurdistan Region</a>, <a href="/wiki/Iraq" title="Iraq">Iraq</a>, vehemently criticizes Iraq's proposed legislation to lower the <a href="/wiki/Marriageable_age" title="Marriageable age">legal age of marriage</a> to nine, labeling it a severe regression in women's rights. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2024/11/24/kurdistan-pm-slams-iraq-s-proposal-to-lower-legal-marriage-age-to-nine">(Al Arabiya)</a></li> <li>Six people are killed and five others are injured after a <a href="/wiki/Mass_shooting" title="Mass shooting">mass shooting</a> at a bar in <a href="/wiki/Villahermosa" title="Villahermosa">Villahermosa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Tabasco" title="Tabasco">Tabasco</a>, <a href="/wiki/Mexico" title="Mexico">Mexico</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/mexico-gunmen-bar-killed-injured-tabasco-cead0b97a539ea03b98685f2da2df369">(AP)</a></li> <li>An unidentified gunman injures three <a href="/wiki/Public_Security_Directorate" title="Public Security Directorate">police officers</a> near the Israeli <a href="/wiki/Diplomatic_mission" title="Diplomatic mission">embassy</a> in <a href="/wiki/Amman" title="Amman">Amman</a>, <a href="/wiki/Jordan" title="Jordan">Jordan</a>, before being shot dead. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/jordanian-police-cordon-off-area-near-israeli-embassy-after-gunshots-heard-2024-11-24/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul> Politics and elections <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Romanian_presidential_election" title="2024 Romanian presidential election">2024 Romanian presidential election</a> <ul><li>The first round of the <a href="/wiki/President_of_Romania" title="President of Romania">presidential elections</a> in <a href="/wiki/Romania" title="Romania">Romania</a> takes place, to determine which two candidates will compete against each other in the second round on December 8. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/11/24/polls-open-in-what-is-expected-to-be-first-round-of-romanias-presidential-election">(Euronews)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Independent_politician" title="Independent politician">Independent</a> candidate <a href="/wiki/C%C4%83lin_Georgescu" title="Călin Georgescu">Călin Georgescu</a> and <a href="/wiki/Save_Romania_Union" title="Save Romania Union">Save Romania Union</a> candidate <a href="/wiki/Elena_Lasconi" title="Elena Lasconi">Elena Lasconi</a> win the first round and pass onto the second round on 8 December. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.libertatea.ro/stiri/usr-elena-lasconi-turul-doi-numaratoare-paralela-marcel-ciolacu-recunoaste-infrangere-5096492">(Libertatea)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Uruguayan_general_election" title="2024 Uruguayan general election">2024 Uruguayan general election</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Uruguayans" title="Uruguayans">Uruguayans</a> vote in the second round of the general election to elect a <a href="/wiki/President_of_Uruguay" title="President of Uruguay">president</a> between <a href="/wiki/Yamand%C3%BA_Orsi" title="Yamandú Orsi">Yamandú Orsi</a> and <a href="/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_Delgado_(politician)" title="Álvaro Delgado (politician)">Álvaro Delgado</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/uruguay-votes-next-president-closely-fought-runoff-race-2024-11-24/">(Reuters)</a></li> <li>The ruling <a href="/wiki/National_Party_(Uruguay)" title="National Party (Uruguay)">National Party</a> concedes defeat as <a href="/wiki/Broad_Front_(Uruguay)" title="Broad Front (Uruguay)">Broad Front</a> candidate Yamandú Orsi wins the election with 52% of the vote. Over 5% of the votes were <a href="/wiki/Spoilt_vote" title="Spoilt vote">invalid</a>, a record high for <a href="/wiki/Uruguay" title="Uruguay">Uruguay</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/uruguay-center-left-candidate-wins-presidential-election/a-70874926">(DW)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://time.com/7178949/uruguay-election-runoff-results-delgado-concedes-leftist-president-yamandu-orsi/">(TIME)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Swiss_referendums" title="2024 Swiss referendums">2024 Swiss referendums</a> <ul><li>Residents of <a href="/wiki/Switzerland" title="Switzerland">Switzerland</a> vote on four national issues, including a highly debated expansion programme for national <a href="/wiki/Highway" title="Highway">highways</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.admin.ch/gov/en/start/documentation/votes/20241124.html">(The Federal Council)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-politics/swiss-motorway-extension-plans-could-be-scuppered-by-voters/88115550">(Swiss Info)</a></li> <li>Swiss voters approve of a measure to institute a new <a href="/wiki/Health_system" title="Health system">healthcare model</a>, while rejecting measures to build larger <a href="/wiki/Motorways_of_Switzerland" title="Motorways of Switzerland">motorways</a>, institute easier <a href="/wiki/Eviction" title="Eviction">evictions</a>, and stricter regulations on <a href="/wiki/Sublease" class="mw-redirect" title="Sublease">subletting</a> properties. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-politics/november-24-2024-votes-the-results-from-across-switzerland/88148785">(SwissInfo)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/11/24/voters-in-switzerland-say-no-to-bigger-motorways-and-to-easier-evictions">(Euronews)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Censorship_in_Israel" title="Censorship in Israel">Censorship in Israel</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Government_of_Israel" class="mw-redirect" title="Government of Israel">government of Israel</a> approves a resolution to cut ties with and impose sanctions on the <a href="/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_Israel" title="List of newspapers in Israel">Israeli newspaper</a> <a href="/wiki/Haaretz" title="Haaretz">Haaretz</a>, after the newspaper ran "many articles that hurt the <a href="/wiki/Legitimacy_of_the_State_of_Israel" title="Legitimacy of the State of Israel">legitimacy of the State of Israel</a> and its right to self-defence". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/24/israel-sanctions-haaretz-due-to-articles-that-hurt-israeli-state">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Sports <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_ATP_Tour" title="2024 ATP Tour">2024 ATP Tour</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Davis_Cup" title="2024 Davis Cup">2024 Davis Cup</a> <ul><li>In <a href="/wiki/Tennis" title="Tennis">tennis</a>, <a href="/wiki/Italy_Davis_Cup_team" title="Italy Davis Cup team">Italy</a> wins their third <a href="/wiki/Davis_Cup" title="Davis Cup">Davis Cup</a> title after <a href="/wiki/Matteo_Berrettini" title="Matteo Berrettini">Matteo Berrettini</a> and <a href="/wiki/Jannik_Sinner" title="Jannik Sinner">Jannik Sinner</a> defeat <a href="/wiki/Botic_van_de_Zandschulp" title="Botic van de Zandschulp">Botic van de Zandschulp</a> and <a href="/wiki/Tallon_Griekspoor" title="Tallon Griekspoor">Tallon Griekspoor</a> of the <a href="/wiki/Netherlands_Davis_Cup_team" title="Netherlands Davis Cup team">Netherlands</a> in <a href="/wiki/2024_Davis_Cup_Finals" title="2024 Davis Cup Finals">the final</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5944011/2024/11/24/italy-davis-cup-win-netherlands/">(The Athletic)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_World_Rally_Championship" title="2024 World Rally Championship">2024 World Rally Championship</a> <ul><li>In <a href="/wiki/Rallying" title="Rallying">rally motorsport</a>, <a href="/wiki/Thierry_Neuville" title="Thierry Neuville">Thierry Neuville</a> of <a href="/wiki/Hyundai_World_Rally_Team" title="Hyundai World Rally Team">Hyundai</a> wins the <a href="/wiki/List_of_World_Rally_Championship_Drivers%27_champions" title="List of World Rally Championship Drivers' champions">World Rally Drivers' Championship</a> at <a href="/wiki/2024_Rally_Japan" title="2024 Rally Japan">Rally Japan</a>, his first world title in the sport. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241124-neuville-wins-world-rally-title-after-tanak-crashes-in-japan">(France 24)</a></li></ul></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Colin_Renfrew" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Colin_Renfrew-November_24-20241126060100">RD: Colin Renfrew</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: RD: Colin Renfrew">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Colin_Renfrew" title="Colin Renfrew">Colin Renfrew</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Colin_Renfrew" title="Talk:Colin Renfrew">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Colin_Renfrew&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Colin_Renfrew&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Colin+Renfrew">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2024/11/25/colin-renfrew-archaology-jesus-college-cambridge-obituary/">The Telegraph</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:240F:7A:6253:1:98F0:B089:1413:EFBE&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:240F:7A:6253:1:98F0:B089:1413:EFBE (page does not exist)">240F:7A:6253:1:98F0:B089:1413:EFBE</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:98F0:B089:1413:EFBE" title="User talk:240F:7A:6253:1:98F0:B089:1413:EFBE">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:98F0:B089:1413:EFBE&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BColin+Renfrew%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Colin+Renfrew&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: British archaeologist. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/240F:7A:6253:1:98F0:B089:1413:EFBE" title="Special:Contributions/240F:7A:6253:1:98F0:B089:1413:EFBE">240F:7A:6253:1:98F0:B089:1413:EFBE</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:98F0:B089:1413:EFBE" title="User talk:240F:7A:6253:1:98F0:B089:1413:EFBE">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-240F:7A:6253:1:98F0:B089:1413:EFBE-20241126060100-RD:_Colin_Renfrew" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:01, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Oppose Article needs major ref work. --<a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241126060600-240F:7A:6253:1:98F0:B089:1413:EFBE-20241126060100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:06, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Bruce_Thompson_(Georgia_politician)" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Bruce_Thompson_(Georgia_politician)-November_24-20241125175600">RD: Bruce Thompson (Georgia politician)</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: RD: Bruce Thompson (Georgia politician)">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Bruce_Thompson_(Georgia_politician)" title="Bruce Thompson (Georgia politician)">Bruce Thompson (Georgia politician)</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Bruce_Thompson_(Georgia_politician)" title="Talk:Bruce Thompson (Georgia politician)">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bruce_Thompson_(Georgia_politician)&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bruce_Thompson_(Georgia_politician)&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Bruce+Thompson+%28Georgia+politician%29">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://apnews.com/article/bruce-thompson-georgia-labor-commissioner-dead-e4a9e1336213d85e77440c4f38f489c7">[6]</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu">Muboshgu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Muboshgu" title="User talk:Muboshgu">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Muboshgu&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BBruce+Thompson+%28Georgia+politician%29%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Bruce+Thompson+%28Georgia+politician%29&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div> – <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu">Muboshgu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Muboshgu#top" title="User talk:Muboshgu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Muboshgu-20241125175600-RD:_Bruce_Thompson_(Georgia_politician)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Barbara_Taylor_Bradford" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Barbara_Taylor_Bradford-November_24-20241125155900">RD: Barbara Taylor Bradford</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: RD: Barbara Taylor Bradford">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Barbara_Taylor_Bradford" title="Barbara Taylor Bradford">Barbara Taylor Bradford</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Barbara_Taylor_Bradford" title="Talk:Barbara Taylor Bradford">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barbara_Taylor_Bradford&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Barbara_Taylor_Bradford&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Barbara+Taylor+Bradford">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/english/hollywood/news/a-woman-of-substance-fame-writer-barbara-taylor-bradford-passes-away-at-91/articleshow/115662611.cms">The Times of India</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User:Pharaoh of the Wizards">Pharaoh of the Wizards</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User talk:Pharaoh of the Wizards">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BBarbara+Taylor+Bradford%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Barbara+Taylor+Bradford&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: British-American novelist <a href="/wiki/User:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User:Pharaoh of the Wizards">Pharaoh of the Wizards</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User talk:Pharaoh of the Wizards">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241125155900-RD:_Barbara_Taylor_Bradford" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Soft support: Adaptations uncited, two cn tags, and a bit of a prose problem, but otherwise the article looks fine. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241125163500-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241125155900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose No need to be so soft with it. Two CN tags, and a completely unsourced Selected works section mean that this article needs work before it can be posted. Cheers, atque supra! <a href="/wiki/User:Fakescientist8000" title="User:Fakescientist8000">Fake</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fakescientist8000" title="User talk:Fakescientist8000">scientist</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000" title="Special:Contributions/Fakescientist8000">8000</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Fakescientist8000-20241125194600-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241125155900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>support I've fixed the cn tags and have added references to all the selected works listed <a href="/wiki/User:Lajmmoore" title="User:Lajmmoore">Lajmmoore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lajmmoore" title="User talk:Lajmmoore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Lajmmoore-20241126230400-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241125155900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose per article quality. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241126230800-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241125155900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_RD:_Rico_Carty" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_RD:_Rico_Carty-November_24-20241124170400">(Posted) RD: Rico Carty</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: (Posted) RD: Rico Carty">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Rico_Carty" title="Rico Carty">Rico Carty</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Rico_Carty" title="Talk:Rico Carty">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rico_Carty&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rico_Carty&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Rico+Carty">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://elpregonerord.com/fallece-el-pelotero-dominicano-rico-carty/">[7]</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu">Muboshgu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Muboshgu" title="User talk:Muboshgu">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Muboshgu&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BRico+Carty%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Rico+Carty&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div> – <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu">Muboshgu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Muboshgu#top" title="User talk:Muboshgu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Muboshgu-20241124170400-(Posted)_RD:_Rico_Carty" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li><s>Not Ready. Several sentences still require the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITE">usual</a>.</s> Post-Posting Support, Resolved. 🛧<a href="/wiki/User:Midori_No_Sora" title="User:Midori No Sora">Midori No Sora♪</a>🛪 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Midori_No_Sora" title="User talk:Midori No Sora"> ☁＝☁＝✈</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Midori_No_Sora-20241125061700-Muboshgu-20241124170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:17, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Midori_No_Sora" title="User:Midori No Sora">Midori No Sora</a>; should be solved :). <a href="/wiki/User:Kline" title="User:Kline">Kline</a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kline" title="User talk:Kline">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kline" title="Special:Contributions/Kline">contribs</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kline-20241125144400-Midori_No_Sora-20241125061700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Support - looks good now! ✈ <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20241125153400-Muboshgu-20241124170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Support article looks fine. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241125163400-Muboshgu-20241124170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Posted to RD. <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer">Spencer</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spencer" title="User talk:Spencer">T•</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spencer" title="Special:Contributions/Spencer">C</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Spencer-20241125172300-Muboshgu-20241124170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="COP29" data-mw-thread-id="h-COP29-November_24-20241124092400">COP29</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: COP29">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 246px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82_%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2_COP29_12_%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%8F%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8F_2024_(cropped).jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82_%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2_COP29_12_%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%8F%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8F_2024_%28cropped%29.jpg/246px-%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82_%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2_COP29_12_%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%8F%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8F_2024_%28cropped%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="246" height="79" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82_%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2_COP29_12_%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%8F%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8F_2024_%28cropped%29.jpg/369px-%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82_%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2_COP29_12_%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%8F%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8F_2024_%28cropped%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82_%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2_COP29_12_%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%8F%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8F_2024_%28cropped%29.jpg/492px-%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82_%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2_COP29_12_%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%8F%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8F_2024_%28cropped%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1953" data-file-height="630"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference" title="2024 United Nations Climate Change Conference">2024 United Nations Climate Change Conference</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference" title="Talk:2024 United Nations Climate Change Conference">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+United+Nations+Climate+Change+Conference">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/2024_United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference" title="2024 United Nations Climate Change Conference">COP29</a> concludes with an agreement on finance for developing nations to help them address and <a href="/wiki/Climate_change_mitigation" title="Climate change mitigation">mitigate climate change</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/23/climate/cop29-climate-talks-conclusion.html">NYT</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/cop29-agrees-deal-kick-start-global-carbon-credit-trading-2024-11-23/">Reuters</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c8jykpdgr08t">BBC</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew Davidson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Andrew_Davidson&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+United+Nations+Climate+Change+Conference%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+United+Nations+Climate+Change+Conference&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:Arcahaeoindris" title="User:Arcahaeoindris">Arcahaeoindris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arcahaeoindris" title="User talk:Arcahaeoindris">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arcahaeoindris&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+United+Nations+Climate+Change+Conference%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+United+Nations+Climate+Change+Conference&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Kirkylad" title="User:Kirkylad">Kirkylad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kirkylad" title="User talk:Kirkylad">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kirkylad&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+United+Nations+Climate+Change+Conference%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+United+Nations+Climate+Change+Conference&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Toghrul_R" title="User:Toghrul R">Toghrul R</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toghrul_R" title="User talk:Toghrul R">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Toghrul_R&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+United+Nations+Climate+Change+Conference%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+United+Nations+Climate+Change+Conference&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated</div>Nominator's comments: Neither the conference nor our article seem impressive but we should consider the topic while we are planning to promote multiple motor racing events (<a href="/wiki/2024_Formula_One_World_Championship" title="2024 Formula One World Championship">1</a>, <a href="/wiki/2024_MotoGP_World_Championship" title="2024 MotoGP World Championship">2</a>, <a href="/wiki/2024_World_Rally_Championship" title="2024 World Rally Championship">3</a>). It's certainly in the news and significant. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241124092400-COP29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:24, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>What relevance do the Motorsports items have to this, beyond ye olde “sports r dumb” comment? <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241124094300-Andrew_Davidson-20241124092400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:43, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>They all use fossil fuels. The conference agreed a statement about transitioning away from fossil fuels despite opposition from countries like Saudi Arabia. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241124095400-The_Kip-20241124094300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Ugh, this is irrelevant to whether this conference should get posted or not. We should be considering each event individually on their own merits. I am personally neutral on this nomination, as I do not know much about COP. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20241124100900-Andrew_Davidson-20241124095400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>FYI, the similar <a href="/wiki/COP28" class="mw-redirect" title="COP28">COP28</a> conference was posted last year. See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/December_2023#(Posted)_COP_28" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/December 2023">nomination</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241124121900-Natg_19-20241124100900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Which at least was a commitment to direct action to reduce factors impacting climate change. Funding aspects like this year's is not a direct action. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241125162900-Andrew_Davidson-20241124121900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>So true dude... we should outlaw all motorsports because Palau said so or something idk. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241125184300-Andrew_Davidson-20241124095400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:43, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Support: Article looks good and well cited. <a href="/wiki/User:Moraljaya67" title="User:Moraljaya67">Moraljaya67</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moraljaya67" title="User talk:Moraljaya67">talk</a>)</li> <li>Oppose on quality, at least. Article may be well sourced but is a mess in terms of tenses (a lot of future tense). In terms of significance, I'm not sure if this result is really as impactful as something like the Paris agreement to merit posting. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241124133000-Andrew_Davidson-20241124092400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:30, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Oppose on quality per above. I'm neutral, leaning support on notability. The title really should be COP29 though, Climate Change has always and will always be brought here only to not be posted. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241124140600-Masem-20241124133000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Fixed the headline. <a href="/wiki/User:Brandmeister" title="User:Brandmeister">Brandmeister</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brandmeister" title="User talk:Brandmeister">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Brandmeister-20241124141700-Departure–-20241124140600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Comment: Have we posted COP before? <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241124151700-Andrew_Davidson-20241124092400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu ba</a> Yes, indeed we have done it in several occasions, including <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&oldid=1189725022">last year</a>, in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&oldid=1053196158">2021</a> and in <a href="/wiki/Talk:2015_United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference" title="Talk:2015 United Nations Climate Change Conference">2015</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Oltrepier" title="User:Oltrepier">Oltrepier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oltrepier" title="User talk:Oltrepier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Oltrepier-20241124152800-Scu_ba-20241124151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Okay, then I'll vote Support, article is of high enough quality, and there is precedent. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241124154800-Oltrepier-20241124152800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Support: as much as the final result of this conference feels extremely disappointing, the COPs are still one of the most important tools national delegations and associations have to negotiate on plans aimed to help our planet and its ecosystems survive. So, yeah, I think they should be addressed even when progress is not so significant. By the way, I'll try to go through the article myself to correct the grammar, as suggested by <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Oltrepier" title="User:Oltrepier">Oltrepier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oltrepier" title="User talk:Oltrepier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Oltrepier-20241124153800-Andrew_Davidson-20241124092400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Right, I've tried to get the article in better shape, and I think I should have solved all of the most glaring issues with tenses and grammar, although I must confess there are a lot of useful bits of information that are still missing from the page... <a href="/wiki/User:Oltrepier" title="User:Oltrepier">Oltrepier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oltrepier" title="User talk:Oltrepier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Oltrepier-20241124214000-Oltrepier-20241124153800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:40, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Support per Oltrepier. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241124165600-Andrew_Davidson-20241124092400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose on notability these summits happen regularly and there's always lots of talk but nothing of note ever happens other than vague meaningless declarations as a result, leaving everyone, particularly those still believing something might change, predictably dissapointed. Having a handful of people fly in on private planes from around the world to an oil-rich dictatorship to pretend to do something about climate change is textbook <a href="/wiki/Greenwashing" title="Greenwashing">greenwashing</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241124213300-Andrew_Davidson-20241124092400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:33, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose: For the reasons @Abcmaxx succinctly outlines. Also, because we have posted something in the past doesn't mean we should now. <a href="/wiki/User:Dreameditsbrooklyn" title="User:Dreameditsbrooklyn">Dreameditsbrooklyn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dreameditsbrooklyn" title="User talk:Dreameditsbrooklyn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Dreameditsbrooklyn-20241124220300-Andrew_Davidson-20241124092400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:03, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support These conferences happen annually, but they are the largest regular international conferences on Climate Change. This year's summit notably saw an agreement on a specific numerical goal for climate finance. <a href="/wiki/User:Jackattack1597" title="User:Jackattack1597">Jackattack1597</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jackattack1597" title="User talk:Jackattack1597">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Jackattack1597-20241125045900-Andrew_Davidson-20241124092400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>But none of these outcomes are tangible results of any consequence; the frequency of these conferences makes it all more apparent <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241125110700-Jackattack1597-20241125045900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:07, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>When we have posted the COP conclusion before at ITN, it is usually tied to a commitment to do some actual actions to reduce climate change (even if they can't be held accountable, etc.) Simply saying they will plan to help poorer countries with financing towards climate change is sorta a nothing-burger in the larger picture regarding CC, given that those pooer countries are typically the least likely contributors towards it. — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241125132400-Jackattack1597-20241125045900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Comment: Some may call it an idle man's show and I personally don't see any notable step they took, but the event might still notable enough. Wikipedia has a good article on it, and it is on the news, to present it is what ITN does. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241125145700-Andrew_Davidson-20241124092400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I guess 300 BILLION dollars annually for loans and grants to tiny countries isn't a notable step. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241125184400-ExclusiveEditor-20241125145700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Given that nations that set to receive that money say that's not nearly enough, yes <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/wealthy-countries-back-raising-cop29-climate-deal-300-billion-sources-say-2024-11-23/">[8]</a> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241125205400-Scu_ba-20241125184400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Of the proposed $1.3 trillion from this year onwards, 300 billion does fall short. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241126062000-Scu_ba-20241125184400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:20, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Oppose on significance. This year's summit doesn't seem to have as large of an effect as others and the extent of it being in the news seems to be "it happened" ✈ <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20241125162700-Andrew_Davidson-20241124092400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Weak oppose per Abcmaxx. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241126061000-Andrew_Davidson-20241124092400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:10, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_RD:_Chia-ying_Yeh" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_RD:_Chia-ying_Yeh-November_24-20241124131500">(Posted) RD: Chia-ying Yeh</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: (Posted) RD: Chia-ying Yeh">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Chia-ying_Yeh" title="Chia-ying Yeh">Chia-ying Yeh</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Chia-ying_Yeh" title="Talk:Chia-ying Yeh">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chia-ying_Yeh&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Chia-ying_Yeh&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Chia-ying+Yeh">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202411/24/WS67431a23a310f1265a1cf43a.html">China Daily</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Greencarp" title="User:Greencarp">Greencarp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Greencarp" title="User talk:Greencarp">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Greencarp&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BChia-ying+Yeh%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Chia-ying+Yeh&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Zanhe" title="User:Zanhe">Zanhe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zanhe" title="User talk:Zanhe">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zanhe&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BChia-ying+Yeh%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Chia-ying+Yeh&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Death confirmed today. Chinese-born Canadian poet and sinologist <a href="/wiki/User:Greencarp" title="User:Greencarp">Greencarp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Greencarp" title="User talk:Greencarp">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Greencarp-20241124131500-(Posted)_RD:_Chia-ying_Yeh" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Support article properly cited. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241124151600-Greencarp-20241124131500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Support - looks good enough ✈ <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20241125153800-Greencarp-20241124131500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support and marking ready. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241125163600-Greencarp-20241124131500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Posted to RD. <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer">Spencer</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spencer" title="User talk:Spencer">T•</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spencer" title="Special:Contributions/Spencer">C</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Spencer-20241125171900-Greencarp-20241124131500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Ready)_RD:_Zvi_Kogan" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Ready)_RD:_Zvi_Kogan-November_24-20241124074600">(Ready) RD: Zvi Kogan</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: (Ready) RD: Zvi Kogan">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Zvi_Kogan" class="mw-redirect" title="Zvi Kogan">Zvi Kogan</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Zvi_Kogan" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Zvi Kogan">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zvi_Kogan&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Zvi_Kogan&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Zvi+Kogan">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/11/24/israel-uae-rabbi-missing/3b02be2a-aa34-11ef-a365-f28068283fb3_story.html">Washington Post</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thriley" title="User talk:Thriley">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thriley&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BZvi+Kogan%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Zvi+Kogan&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Death confirmed today. Article was just created. Needs expansion. <a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thriley" title="User talk:Thriley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Thriley-20241124074600-(Ready)_RD:_Zvi_Kogan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:46, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Support article looks good. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241124151500-Thriley-20241124074600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support Article is in good shape with lots of sources. Z'L <a href="/wiki/User:Pyramids09" title="User:Pyramids09">Pyramids09</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pyramids09" title="User talk:Pyramids09">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Pyramids09-20241125104600-Thriley-20241124074600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Support - looks ready for posting ✈ <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20241125153700-Thriley-20241124074600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Support and marking ready. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241125163700-Thriley-20241124074600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Comment: Not sure if this is technically eligible for RD if the article is about his death? Not sure how this has been handled in the past. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRDBLURB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRDBLURB">WP:ITNRDBLURB</a> suggests that something like this should be blurbed when the death is the main topic. <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer">Spencer</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spencer" title="User talk:Spencer">T•</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spencer" title="Special:Contributions/Spencer">C</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Spencer-20241125171600-Thriley-20241124074600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Support it would be a gimme if the title were "assassination of," as it should be. <a href="/wiki/User:Scharb" title="User:Scharb">Scharb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scharb" title="User talk:Scharb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scharb-20241125175700-Thriley-20241124074600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_RD:_Fred_R._Harris" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_RD:_Fred_R._Harris-November_24-20241124042300">(Posted) RD: Fred R. Harris</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: (Posted) RD: Fred R. Harris">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Fred_R._Harris" title="Fred R. Harris">Fred R. Harris</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Fred_R._Harris" title="Talk:Fred R. Harris">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fred_R._Harris&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fred_R._Harris&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Fred+R.+Harris">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/23/us/politics/fred-r-harris-dead.html">NYT</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Staraction" title="User:Staraction">Staraction</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staraction" title="User talk:Staraction">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Staraction&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BFred+R.+Harris%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Fred+R.+Harris&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Sunshineisles2" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sunshineisles2">Sunshineisles2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sunshineisles2" title="User talk:Sunshineisles2">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sunshineisles2&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BFred+R.+Harris%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Fred+R.+Harris&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>), <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MallonAllah12&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MallonAllah12 (page does not exist)">MallonAllah12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MallonAllah12" title="User talk:MallonAllah12">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MallonAllah12&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BFred+R.+Harris%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Fred+R.+Harris&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flipandflopped</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Flipandflopped&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BFred+R.+Harris%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Fred+R.+Harris&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: American politican from Oklahoma. <a href="/wiki/User:Staraction" title="User:Staraction">Staraction</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staraction" title="User talk:Staraction">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Staraction" title="Special:Contributions/Staraction">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Staraction-20241124042300-(Posted)_RD:_Fred_R._Harris" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:23, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Support no problems with the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241124151500-Staraction-20241124042300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support addressed a couple CN tags and reviewed the article; looks good. Tagging ready now. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241125164300-Staraction-20241124042300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Posted to RD. <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer">Spencer</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spencer" title="User talk:Spencer">T•</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spencer" title="Special:Contributions/Spencer">C</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Spencer-20241125171300-Staraction-20241124042300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="2024_World_Rally_Championship" data-mw-thread-id="h-2024_World_Rally_Championship-November_24-20241124041900">2024 World Rally Championship</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: 2024 World Rally Championship">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-ITNR"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 114px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:2014_Rallye_Deutschland_by_2eight_8SC0443.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/2014_Rallye_Deutschland_by_2eight_8SC0443.jpg/114px-2014_Rallye_Deutschland_by_2eight_8SC0443.jpg" decoding="async" width="114" height="171" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/2014_Rallye_Deutschland_by_2eight_8SC0443.jpg/171px-2014_Rallye_Deutschland_by_2eight_8SC0443.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/2014_Rallye_Deutschland_by_2eight_8SC0443.jpg/228px-2014_Rallye_Deutschland_by_2eight_8SC0443.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1367" data-file-height="2048"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_World_Rally_Championship" title="2024 World Rally Championship">2024 World Rally Championship</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_World_Rally_Championship" title="Talk:2024 World Rally Championship">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_World_Rally_Championship&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_World_Rally_Championship&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+World+Rally+Championship">tag</a>) Blurb: In <a href="/wiki/Motorsport" title="Motorsport">motorsport</a>, <a href="/wiki/Thierry_Neuville" title="Thierry Neuville">Thierry Neuville</a> (pictured) and <a href="/wiki/Martijn_Wydaeghe" title="Martijn Wydaeghe">Martijn Wydaeghe</a> win <a href="/wiki/2024_World_Rally_Championship" title="2024 World Rally Championship">the World Rally Championship</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: In <a href="/wiki/Motorsport" title="Motorsport">motorsport</a>, <a href="/wiki/Thierry_Neuville" title="Thierry Neuville">Thierry Neuville</a> (pictured) and <a href="/wiki/Martijn_Wydaeghe" title="Martijn Wydaeghe">Martijn Wydaeghe</a> win <a href="/wiki/2024_World_Rally_Championship" title="2024 World Rally Championship">the World Rally Championship</a>, while <a href="/wiki/Toyota_Gazoo_Racing_WRT" title="Toyota Gazoo Racing WRT">Toyota</a> win the manufacturer's title. News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20241124-neuville-wins-world-rally-title-after-tanak-crashes-in-japan">France 24</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Moraljaya67" title="User:Moraljaya67">Moraljaya67</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moraljaya67" title="User talk:Moraljaya67">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Moraljaya67&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+World+Rally+Championship%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+World+Rally+Championship&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:Unnamelessness" title="User:Unnamelessness">Unnamelessness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unnamelessness" title="User talk:Unnamelessness">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Unnamelessness&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+World+Rally+Championship%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+World+Rally+Championship&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Unnamelessness" title="User:Unnamelessness">Unnamelessness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unnamelessness" title="User talk:Unnamelessness">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Unnamelessness&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+World+Rally+Championship%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+World+Rally+Championship&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated The nominated event is listed on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">WP:ITN/R</a>, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">WP:ITNCRIT</a>, not the significance.</div>Nominator's comments: Looks like the article is good for posting. <a href="/wiki/User:Moraljaya67" title="User:Moraljaya67">Moraljaya67</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moraljaya67" title="User talk:Moraljaya67">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Moraljaya67-20241124041900-2024_World_Rally_Championship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:19, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Comment tweaked the blurb Added ALT blurb. <a href="/wiki/User:Unnamelessness" title="User:Unnamelessness">Unnamelessness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unnamelessness" title="User talk:Unnamelessness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Unnamelessness-20241124073000-Moraljaya67-20241124041900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:30, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support The article is good to go. Probrably could issue a blurb together with the F1, something like: In <a href="/wiki/Motorsport" title="Motorsport">motorsport</a>, <a href="/wiki/Max_Verstappen" title="Max Verstappen">Max Verstappen</a> and the crew of <a href="/wiki/Thierry_Neuville" title="Thierry Neuville">Thierry Neuville</a> and <a href="/wiki/Martijn_Wydaeghe" title="Martijn Wydaeghe">Martijn Wydaeghe</a> respectively win the <a href="/wiki/2024_Formula_One_World_Championship" title="2024 Formula One World Championship">the Formula One World Championship</a> and <a href="/wiki/2024_World_Rally_Championship" title="2024 World Rally Championship">the World Rally Championship</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Unnamelessness" title="User:Unnamelessness">Unnamelessness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unnamelessness" title="User talk:Unnamelessness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Unnamelessness-20241124075200-Moraljaya67-20241124041900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:52, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>These are completely unrelated sports, so shouldn't be combined. Yes they both use cars, but we wouldn't combine rugby with football just because they both use balls, or tennis with squash because they both use racquets. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241124155700-Unnamelessness-20241124075200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The difference is that both championships are organized by the same organization (<a href="/wiki/F%C3%A9d%C3%A9ration_Internationale_de_l%27Automobile" title="Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile">Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile</a>), and both championships are listed under the same ITNR category (Motorsport). <a href="/wiki/User:Unnamelessness" title="User:Unnamelessness">Unnamelessness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unnamelessness" title="User talk:Unnamelessness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Unnamelessness-20241124163200-Modest_Genius-20241124155700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:32, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Support article looks good. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241124151400-Moraljaya67-20241124041900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment many parts of the text are ungrammatical and unidiomatic, as if they've been through automated translation. I've tried to tidy up the season summary, but parts are still contradictory or difficult to follow. This could do with some attention by someone who followed the season - I don't have time to dig into all the references. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241124155600-Moraljaya67-20241124041900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <ul><li>Support Also Support unnamelessness’ suggestion <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/27.96.223.193" title="Special:Contributions/27.96.223.193">27.96.223.193</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:27.96.223.193" title="User talk:27.96.223.193">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-27.96.223.193-20241125044000-Moraljaya67-20241124041900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose an independent blurb, as I am in favour of a conjoined blurb with the F1 ITNR blurb. Two motorsport blurbs clogs up the main page, and they can logically be grouped together. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241125070600-Moraljaya67-20241124041900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>They are 2 completely different events and so should not be merged into one blurb. <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302">Joseph</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">2302</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20241125112600-Flipandflopped-20241125070600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>they’re both motorsport. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/27.96.223.193" title="Special:Contributions/27.96.223.193">27.96.223.193</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:27.96.223.193" title="User talk:27.96.223.193">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-27.96.223.193-20241125231400-Joseph2302-20241125112600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:14, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li>Support only as a separate blurb. This is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNR">WP:ITNR</a> and meets article quality standards and so should be posted as a separate blurb- this is no different to having multiple election articles listed at the same time on ITN. This discussion isn't an appropriate place to try and re-write how ITN and ITNR nominations work, these 2 events are not related just because they both use cars. <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302">Joseph</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">2302</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20241125112900-Moraljaya67-20241124041900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Voicing quality concerns about how to better optimize the phrasing of blurb(s) is inappropriate to bring up in the discussion and voting section of those very same blurbs? ITNR means the event itself is notable enough to make it on the main page. How the article is blurbed and presented remains subject to community consensus, which entails room for disagreement without accusations of inappropriate behaviour. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241125165400-Joseph2302-20241125112900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>A combined mix of 2 not the same events is not the same as posting them separately which is what the ITNR nomination is for. <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302">Joseph</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">2302</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20241125182300-Flipandflopped-20241125165400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Well, I will respectfully agree to disagree. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241126003200-Joseph2302-20241125182300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_Sara_Duterte" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_Sara_Duterte-November_24-20241125045200">(Closed) Sara Duterte</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: (Closed) Sara Duterte">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">non-admin closure <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTNEWS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTNEWS">WP:NOTNEWS</a> i need to wait if there's will have a impeachment. <a href="/wiki/User:Royiswariii" title="User:Royiswariii">Royiswariii</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Royiswariii" title="User talk:Royiswariii">Talk!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Royiswariii-20241125105400-(Closed)_Sara_Duterte" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:54, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 128px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:VPSDPortrait_(cropped)_(3).jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/VPSDPortrait_%28cropped%29_%283%29.jpg/128px-VPSDPortrait_%28cropped%29_%283%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="128" height="153" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/VPSDPortrait_%28cropped%29_%283%29.jpg/192px-VPSDPortrait_%28cropped%29_%283%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/VPSDPortrait_%28cropped%29_%283%29.jpg/256px-VPSDPortrait_%28cropped%29_%283%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3648" data-file-height="4362"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/Sara_Duterte" title="Sara Duterte">Sara Duterte</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Sara_Duterte" title="Talk:Sara Duterte">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sara_Duterte&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sara_Duterte&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Sara+Duterte">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_Philippines" title="Vice President of the Philippines">The Vice President of the Philippines</a> <a href="/wiki/Sara_Duterte" title="Sara Duterte">Sara Duterte</a> (pictured) causes outrage after claiming in a briefing that she had spoken to kill President <a href="/wiki/Ferdinand_Marcos_Jr." class="mw-redirect" title="Ferdinand Marcos Jr.">Ferdinand Marcos Jr.</a>, <a href="/wiki/First_lady" title="First lady">First lady</a> <a href="/wiki/Liza_Araneta_Marcos" title="Liza Araneta Marcos">Liza Araneta Marcos</a> and House Speaker <a href="/wiki/Martin_Romualdez" title="Martin Romualdez">Martin Romualdez</a> if she were to killed. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: <a href="/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_Philippines" title="Vice President of the Philippines">Vice President of the Philippines</a> <a href="/wiki/Sara_Duterte" title="Sara Duterte">Sara Duterte</a> (pictured) under fire after allegedly revealing in a briefing if she had arranged and <a href="/wiki/Assassination" title="Assassination">assassination</a> of <a href="/wiki/President_of_the_Philippines" title="President of the Philippines">President of the Philippines</a> <a href="/wiki/Ferdinand_Marcos_Jr." class="mw-redirect" title="Ferdinand Marcos Jr.">Ferdinand Marcos Jr.</a>, <a href="/wiki/First_lady" title="First lady">First lady</a> <a href="/wiki/Liza_Araneta_Marcos" title="Liza Araneta Marcos">Liza Araneta Marcos</a> and <a href="/wiki/House_Speaker_of_the_Philippines" class="mw-redirect" title="House Speaker of the Philippines">House Speaker of the Philippines</a> <a href="/wiki/Martin_Romualdez" title="Martin Romualdez">Martin Romualdez</a> if she were to die. Alternative blurb II: The <a href="/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_Philippines" title="Vice President of the Philippines">Vice President of the Philippines</a> <a href="/wiki/Sara_Duterte" title="Sara Duterte">Sara Duterte</a> (pictured) faces criticism after reportedly admitting in a briefing that she ordered the <a href="/wiki/Assassination" title="Assassination">assassination</a> of <a href="/wiki/President_of_the_Philippines" title="President of the Philippines">President of the Philippines</a> <a href="/wiki/Ferdinand_Marcos_Jr." class="mw-redirect" title="Ferdinand Marcos Jr.">Ferdinand Marcos Jr.</a>, First lady <a href="/wiki/Liza_Araneta_Marcos" title="Liza Araneta Marcos">Liza Araneta Marcos</a> and <a href="/wiki/House_Speaker_of_the_Philippines" class="mw-redirect" title="House Speaker of the Philippines">House Speaker of the Philippines</a> <a href="/wiki/Martin_Romualdez" title="Martin Romualdez">Martin Romualdez</a> if she were killed. News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/philippine-vps-death-threat-president-security-matter-official-says-rcna181526">NBC</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/23/asia/philippines-duterte-marcos-intl-hnk/index.html">CNN</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/philippine-vps-assassination-threat-against-president-national-security-matter-2024-11-24/">Reuters</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Royiswariii" title="User:Royiswariii">Royiswariii</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Royiswariii" title="User talk:Royiswariii">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Royiswariii&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BSara+Duterte%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Sara+Duterte&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div>Nominator's comments: Just In that President Marcos Jr gave a official statement on Sara Duterte said (Source: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/928076/marcos-criminal-moves-sara-duterte/story/">GMA News</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:Royiswariii" title="User:Royiswariii">Royiswariii</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Royiswariii" title="User talk:Royiswariii">Talk!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Royiswariii-20241125045200-(Closed)_Sara_Duterte" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Strong oppose until this evolves into widespread protests, or a political crisis, or something beyond non-specific claims of "outrage". At least something with article to point towards, feigning the possibility of Duterte's death following these comments. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241125050300-Royiswariii-20241125045200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Added bold formatting to bring all blurbs to ITN style. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241125050500-Departure–-20241125050300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:05, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>check the alt blurb <a href="/wiki/User:Royiswariii" title="User:Royiswariii">Royiswariii</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Royiswariii" title="User talk:Royiswariii">Talk!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Royiswariii-20241125052900-Departure–-20241125050300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:29, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Comment: Please note that it started on conflict of Marcos-Duterte on Investigation of War on Drugs in the Philippines of Former President <a href="/wiki/Rodrigo_Duterte" title="Rodrigo Duterte">Rodrigo Duterte</a>. And in Mary Grace Piattos issue that possibly go on impeachment too (While I'm replying this, it's in the investigation of Quad committee of the Philippines). I can't remember other issues of Duterte-Marcos it's so many issues lol. <a href="/wiki/User:Royiswariii" title="User:Royiswariii">Royiswariii</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Royiswariii" title="User talk:Royiswariii">Talk!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Royiswariii-20241125053600-Royiswariii-20241125052900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose "Politician criticized for incendiary comments about hypothetical situation" is not ITN material. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241125063300-Royiswariii-20241125045200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:33, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose: This is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTNEWS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTNEWS">WP:NOTNEWS</a> and also, I think, that every criticisms/controversies of a certain politician is habitual news.<a href="/wiki/User:Moraljaya67" title="User:Moraljaya67">Moraljaya67</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moraljaya67" title="User talk:Moraljaya67">talk</a>)</li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="November_23" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_23-20241124060500">November 23</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: November 23">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Current_events/2024_November_23" title="Portal:Current events/2024 November 23">Portal:Current events/2024 November 23</a></div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248507241"><div class="current-events"> <div role="region" aria-label="November 23" id="2024_November_23" class="current-events-main vevent"> <div class="current-events-heading plainlinks"> <div class="current-events-title" role="heading">November 23, 2024 (2024-11-23) (Saturday) </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_23&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_23&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_23&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> Armed conflicts and attacks <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)">Israel–Hezbollah conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon" title="2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon">2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Basta_airstrikes" title="2024 Basta airstrikes">2024 Basta airstrikes</a> <ul><li>At least 20 people are killed and 66 others are injured in an <a href="/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces" title="Israel Defense Forces">Israeli</a> airstrike in <a href="/wiki/Basta,_Beirut" title="Basta, Beirut">Basta</a>, <a href="/wiki/Beirut" title="Beirut">Beirut</a>, <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://today.lorientlejour.com/article/1436645/israeli-strike-on-a-building-in-basta-central-beirut-at-least-four-dead-day-414-of-the-war.html">(L'Orient Today)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/least-four-missiles-fired-strike-that-rocked-beirut-security-sources-say-2024-11-23/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Tyre_airstrikes" title="2024 Tyre airstrikes">2024 Tyre airstrikes</a> <ul><li>Two people are killed and three others are injured in an <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israeli</a> <a href="/wiki/Drone_warfare" title="Drone warfare">drone strike</a> on <a href="/wiki/Tyre,_Lebanon" title="Tyre, Lebanon">Tyre</a>, Lebanon. The victims are <a href="/wiki/Palestinian_refugee_camps" title="Palestinian refugee camps">Palestinian refugees</a> from the nearby <a href="/wiki/Rashidieh" title="Rashidieh">Rashidieh</a> camp. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-11-23-2024-60f383ef1f42ff9928770a77d27ec4b8">(AP)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Israeli airstrikes across Lebanon kill 18 people, including four children, in <a href="/wiki/Shmustar" title="Shmustar">Shmustar</a>, <a href="/wiki/Roumieh" title="Roumieh">Roumieh</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Bodai" title="Bodai">Bodai</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-11-23-2024-60f383ef1f42ff9928770a77d27ec4b8">(AP)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Insurgency_in_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Kurram_massacre" class="mw-redirect" title="2024 Kurram massacre">2024 Kurram massacre</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Sectarian_violence_in_Pakistan" title="Sectarian violence in Pakistan">Sectarian clashes</a> between <a href="/wiki/Sunni_Islam" title="Sunni Islam">Sunni</a> and <a href="/wiki/Shia_Islam" title="Shia Islam">Shia</a> fighters in <a href="/wiki/Kurram_District" title="Kurram District">Kurram District</a>, <a href="/wiki/Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a>, kill 33 people and injure 25 others. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/pakistan-sectarian-violence-kurram-aec6e365dd13de8e381740008fbd14b7">(AP)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Islamic_State%E2%80%93Taliban_conflict" title="Islamic State–Taliban conflict">Islamic State–Taliban conflict</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Islamic_State_%E2%80%93_Khorasan_Province" title="Islamic State – Khorasan Province">Islamic State Khorasan</a> claims responsibility for a <a href="/wiki/Mass_shooting" title="Mass shooting">mass shooting</a> that killed ten <a href="/wiki/Sufi" class="mw-redirect" title="Sufi">Sufi</a> worshippers at a shrine in <a href="/wiki/Nahrin_District" title="Nahrin District">Nahrin District</a>, <a href="/wiki/Baghlan" title="Baghlan">Baghlan</a>, <a href="/wiki/Afghanistan" title="Afghanistan">Afghanistan</a>, two days ago. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.arabnews.com/node/2580519/world">(Arab News)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.barrons.com/news/is-khorasan-claims-attack-on-sufi-shrine-in-afghanistan-ee656ee0">(Barron's)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Sudanese_civil_war_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Sudanese civil war (2023–present)">Sudanese civil war </a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Sudanese_Armed_Forces" title="Sudanese Armed Forces">Sudanese Armed Forces</a> recapture <a href="/wiki/Singa,_Sudan" title="Singa, Sudan">Sinja</a>, the capital of <a href="/wiki/Sennar_State" title="Sennar State">Sennar State</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sudan" title="Sudan">Sudan</a>, from the <a href="/wiki/Rapid_Support_Forces" title="Rapid Support Forces">Rapid Support Forces</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.newarab.com/news/sudan-army-says-recaptures-capital-key-state-sennar">(The New Arab)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Disasters and accidents <ul><li>Twenty-four people are killed and 46 others are rescued after two boats carrying 70 passengers <a href="/wiki/Capsizing" title="Capsizing">capsize</a> when the boats' engines failed in the <a href="/wiki/Indian_Ocean" title="Indian Ocean">Indian Ocean</a> off the north coast of <a href="/wiki/Madagascar" title="Madagascar">Madagascar</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/at-least-24-dead-after-two-boats-capsize-off-coast-of-madagascar/ar-AA1uFC5r?ocid=BingNewsSerp">(BBC News)</a></li></ul> International relations <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference" title="2024 United Nations Climate Change Conference">2024 United Nations Climate Change Conference</a> <ul><li>World leaders at the COP29 climate summit in <a href="/wiki/Baku" title="Baku">Baku</a>, <a href="/wiki/Azerbaijan" title="Azerbaijan">Azerbaijan</a>, sign a deal to send at least $300 billion annually to <a href="/wiki/Developing_country" title="Developing country">developing nations</a> in the fight against climate change. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cop-29-climate-talks-agree-on-300-billion-dollars-a-year-for-poor-countries/">(CBS News)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93United_States_relations" title="Russia–United States relations">Russia–United States relations</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community" title="United States Intelligence Community">United States Intelligence Community</a> declassifies a document which accuses <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a> of <a href="/wiki/List_of_Russian_assassinations" title="List of Russian assassinations">assassinating</a> <a href="/wiki/Opposition_to_Vladimir_Putin_in_Russia" title="Opposition to Vladimir Putin in Russia">political opponents</a> to <a href="/wiki/President_of_Russia" title="President of Russia">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Vladimir_Putin" title="Vladimir Putin">Vladimir Putin</a> abroad. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://kyivindependent.com/us-document-about-assassinations-suspected-by-russia/">(Kyiv Independent)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-11-22/putin-s-assassination-targets-revealed-in-declassified-memo">(Bloomberg)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Politics and elections <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Constitutional_crisis_in_Somalia" title="Constitutional crisis in Somalia">Constitutional crisis in Somalia</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Jubaland_presidential_election" title="2024 Jubaland presidential election">2024 Jubaland presidential election</a> <ul><li>At least one security officer is killed and two others are injured in a gunfight between <a href="/wiki/Jubaland" title="Jubaland">Jubaland</a> police and security guards in <a href="/wiki/Kismayo" title="Kismayo">Kismayo</a>, <a href="/wiki/Somalia" title="Somalia">Somalia</a>, after rival candidates announced a parallel election amid a disagreement on the electoral procedure for the presidential election on Monday. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2024/Nov/199040/gunfight_in_kismayo_leaves_one_dead_heightens_federal_jubbaland_tensions.aspx">(Hiiraan Online)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://ntvkenya.co.ke/news/jubaland-rival-candidates-announce-parallel-election-plans/">(NTV Kenya)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://nation.africa/africa/news/jubaland-rival-candidates-announce-parallel-election-plans-4833334">(NATION)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_anti-tourism_protests_in_Spain" title="2024 anti-tourism protests in Spain">2024 anti-tourism protests in Spain</a> <ul><li>Tens of thousands of people protest against rising <a href="/wiki/Renting" title="Renting">rent costs</a> and lack of <a href="/wiki/Public_housing" title="Public housing">social housing</a> for residents in <a href="/wiki/Barcelona" title="Barcelona">Barcelona</a>, <a href="/wiki/Spain" title="Spain">Spain</a>. The protests emerge after a recent <a href="/wiki/Bank_of_Spain" title="Bank of Spain">Bank of Spain</a> report showed the average <a href="/wiki/Spaniards" title="Spaniards">Spaniard</a> spends about 40% of their income on rent. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/spain-housing-protest-rents-fa783c818f736d7364df6c54fdcf8784">(AP)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Philippines" title="Philippines">Philippine</a> <a href="/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_Philippines" title="Vice President of the Philippines">Vice President</a> <a href="/wiki/Sara_Duterte" title="Sara Duterte">Sara Duterte</a> claims to have spoken with a <a href="/wiki/Contract_killer" class="mw-redirect" title="Contract killer">contract killer</a> to target <a href="/wiki/President_of_The_Philippines" class="mw-redirect" title="President of The Philippines">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Bongbong_Marcos" title="Bongbong Marcos">Bongbong Marcos</a>, <a href="/wiki/First_Spouse_of_the_Philippines" class="mw-redirect" title="First Spouse of the Philippines">his wife</a> <a href="/wiki/Liza_Araneta_Marcos" title="Liza Araneta Marcos">Liza</a> and <a href="/wiki/Speaker_of_the_House_of_Representatives_of_the_Philippines" title="Speaker of the House of Representatives of the Philippines">House Speaker</a> <a href="/wiki/Martin_Romualdez" title="Martin Romualdez">Martin Romualdez</a> in the event of her assassination, which the administration deemed an "active threat" against the government. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.abs-cbn.com/news/nation/2024/11/23/vp-duterte-s-claim-of-tapping-hitman-for-marcos-jr-an-active-threat-malaca-ang-1130">(ABS-CBN)</a></li></ul> Sports <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_U_Sports_football_season" title="2024 U Sports football season">2024 U Sports football season</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/59th_Vanier_Cup" title="59th Vanier Cup">59th Vanier Cup</a> <ul><li>In <a href="/wiki/Canadian_football" title="Canadian football">Canadian football</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Laval_Rouge_et_Or_football" title="Laval Rouge et Or football">Laval Rouge et Or</a> defeats the <a href="/wiki/Wilfrid_Laurier_Golden_Hawks_football" title="Wilfrid Laurier Golden Hawks football">Wilfrid Laurier Golden Hawks</a> 22–17 in the 59th <a href="/wiki/Vanier_Cup" title="Vanier Cup">Vanier Cup</a>, claiming their 12th <a href="/wiki/U_Sports_football" title="U Sports football">U Sports football</a> title. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.tsn.ca/u-sports/laval-wins-vanier-cup-with-victory-over-laurier-1.2208874">(TSN)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Formula_One_World_Championship" title="2024 Formula One World Championship">2024 Formula One World Championship</a> <ul><li>In <a href="/wiki/Auto_racing" title="Auto racing">auto racing</a>, <a href="/wiki/Max_Verstappen" title="Max Verstappen">Max Verstappen</a> of <a href="/wiki/Red_Bull_Racing" title="Red Bull Racing">Red Bull</a> wins his fourth consecutive <a href="/wiki/World_Drivers%27_Championship" class="mw-redirect" title="World Drivers' Championship">World Drivers' Championship</a> at the <a href="/wiki/2024_Las_Vegas_Grand_Prix" title="2024 Las Vegas Grand Prix">Las Vegas Grand Prix</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/othersports/928030/max-verstappen-wraps-up-4th-straight-driver-s-championship/story/">(GMA News)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_National_Women%27s_Soccer_League_season" title="2024 National Women's Soccer League season">2024 National Women's Soccer League season</a> <ul><li>In <a href="/wiki/Association_football" title="Association football">association football</a>, the <a href="/wiki/Orlando_Pride" title="Orlando Pride">Orlando Pride</a> wins its first <a href="/wiki/National_Women%27s_Soccer_League" title="National Women's Soccer League">National Women's Soccer League</a> title after defeating the <a href="/wiki/Washington_Spirit" title="Washington Spirit">Washington Spirit</a> 1–0 in <a href="/wiki/NWSL_playoffs" title="NWSL playoffs">the championship</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2024/11/24/soccer/pride-nwsl-title/">(The Japan Times)</a></li></ul></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Ready)_2024_Formula_One_World_Championship" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Ready)_2024_Formula_One_World_Championship-November_23-20241124073400">(Ready) 2024 Formula One World Championship</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: (Ready) 2024 Formula One World Championship">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-ITNR"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 122px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:2024-08-25_Motorsport,_Formel_1,_Gro%C3%9Fer_Preis_der_Niederlande_2024_STP_3973_by_Stepro_(medium_crop).jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/2024-08-25_Motorsport%2C_Formel_1%2C_Gro%C3%9Fer_Preis_der_Niederlande_2024_STP_3973_by_Stepro_%28medium_crop%29.jpg/122px-2024-08-25_Motorsport%2C_Formel_1%2C_Gro%C3%9Fer_Preis_der_Niederlande_2024_STP_3973_by_Stepro_%28medium_crop%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="122" height="161" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/2024-08-25_Motorsport%2C_Formel_1%2C_Gro%C3%9Fer_Preis_der_Niederlande_2024_STP_3973_by_Stepro_%28medium_crop%29.jpg/183px-2024-08-25_Motorsport%2C_Formel_1%2C_Gro%C3%9Fer_Preis_der_Niederlande_2024_STP_3973_by_Stepro_%28medium_crop%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/2024-08-25_Motorsport%2C_Formel_1%2C_Gro%C3%9Fer_Preis_der_Niederlande_2024_STP_3973_by_Stepro_%28medium_crop%29.jpg/244px-2024-08-25_Motorsport%2C_Formel_1%2C_Gro%C3%9Fer_Preis_der_Niederlande_2024_STP_3973_by_Stepro_%28medium_crop%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1728" data-file-height="2282"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_Formula_One_World_Championship" title="2024 Formula One World Championship">2024 Formula One World Championship</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_Formula_One_World_Championship" title="Talk:2024 Formula One World Championship">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_Formula_One_World_Championship&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_Formula_One_World_Championship&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Formula+One+World+Championship">tag</a>) Blurb: In <a href="/wiki/Motorsport" title="Motorsport">motorsport</a>, <a href="/wiki/Max_Verstappen" title="Max Verstappen">Max Verstappen</a> (pictured) wins <a href="/wiki/2024_Formula_One_World_Championship" title="2024 Formula One World Championship">the Formula One World Championship</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: In <a href="/wiki/Motorsport" title="Motorsport">motorsport</a>, <a href="/wiki/Max_Verstappen" title="Max Verstappen">Max Verstappen</a> (pictured) wins <a href="/wiki/2024_Formula_One_World_Championship" title="2024 Formula One World Championship">the Formula One World Championship</a>, while <a href="/wiki/Thierry_Neuville" title="Thierry Neuville">Thierry Neuville</a> and <a href="/wiki/Martijn_Wydaeghe" title="Martijn Wydaeghe">Martijn Wydaeghe</a> win <a href="/wiki/2024_World_Rally_Championship" title="2024 World Rally Championship">the World Rally Championship</a>. News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/42520866/max-verstappen-wins-fourth-f1-world-title-las-vegas-red-bull">ESPN</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Unnamelessness" title="User:Unnamelessness">Unnamelessness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unnamelessness" title="User talk:Unnamelessness">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Unnamelessness&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Formula+One+World+Championship%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Formula+One+World+Championship&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article needs updating The nominated event is listed on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">WP:ITN/R</a>, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">WP:ITNCRIT</a>, not the significance.</div>Nominator's comments: May produce a combination blurb with the WRC. <a href="/wiki/User:Unnamelessness" title="User:Unnamelessness">Unnamelessness</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unnamelessness" title="User talk:Unnamelessness">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Unnamelessness-20241124073400-(Ready)_2024_Formula_One_World_Championship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:34, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Support with conjoined F1-WRC blurb. Article should be OK too even without the prose on the latest race. <a href="/wiki/User:Angusgtw" title="User:Angusgtw">Angusgtw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Angusgtw" title="User talk:Angusgtw">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Angusgtw-20241124082600-Unnamelessness-20241124073400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:26, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Queston What's a WRC? <a href="/wiki/User:HiLo48" title="User:HiLo48">HiLo48</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HiLo48" title="User talk:HiLo48">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-HiLo48-20241124085500-Unnamelessness-20241124073400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:55, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:HiLo48" title="User:HiLo48">HiLo48</a>: <a href="/wiki/World_Rally_Championship" title="World Rally Championship">World Rally Championship</a>. Personally I would not be in favour of a merge because they're 2 different types of motor racing. <a href="/wiki/User:The_C_of_E" title="User:The C of E">The C of E God Save the King!</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_C_of_E" title="User talk:The C of E">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_C_of_E-20241124090500-HiLo48-20241124085500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:05, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I fully agree. <a href="/wiki/User:HiLo48" title="User:HiLo48">HiLo48</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HiLo48" title="User talk:HiLo48">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-HiLo48-20241124091000-The_C_of_E-20241124090500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:10, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Support article looks good. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241124151400-Unnamelessness-20241124073400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Support combined blurb per Angusgtw. We should combine the entries for the F1 and world rally championship. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241125071200-Unnamelessness-20241124073400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:12, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Support - article looks ready ✈ <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20241125153900-Unnamelessness-20241124073400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Strong oppose combined blurb That would be like combining the Super Bowl and Rugby World Cup finals because they both use an oval ball. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241125160500-Unnamelessness-20241124073400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Comment Must we run a photo of a Dutch and Belgian athlete in front of the British flag? How about we use something like <a href="/wiki/File:Max_Verstappen_2017_Malaysia_1.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Max_Verstappen_2017_Malaysia_1.jpg/20px-Max_Verstappen_2017_Malaysia_1.jpg" decoding="async" width="20" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Max_Verstappen_2017_Malaysia_1.jpg/30px-Max_Verstappen_2017_Malaysia_1.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Max_Verstappen_2017_Malaysia_1.jpg/40px-Max_Verstappen_2017_Malaysia_1.jpg 2x" data-file-width="800" data-file-height="1200"/></a> instead? <a href="/wiki/User:Bremps" title="User:Bremps">Bremps</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bremps" title="User talk:Bremps">...</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bremps-20241125201900-Unnamelessness-20241124073400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Support <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ArionStar&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ArionStar (page does not exist)">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20241126012400-Unnamelessness-20241124073400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:24, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Support per nom <a href="/wiki/User:IDB.S" title="User:IDB.S">IDB.S</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IDB.S" title="User talk:IDB.S">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-IDB.S-20241126041200-ArionStar-20241126012400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:12, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li>Support on quality, weak oppose combined blurb. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241126061100-Unnamelessness-20241124073400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:11, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Chuck_Woolery" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Chuck_Woolery-November_23-20241124060500">RD: Chuck Woolery</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: RD: Chuck Woolery">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Chuck_Woolery" title="Chuck Woolery">Chuck Woolery</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Chuck_Woolery" title="Talk:Chuck Woolery">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chuck_Woolery&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Chuck_Woolery&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Chuck+Woolery">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/chuck-woolery-dead-wheel-fortune-love-connection-1236070165/">https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/chuck-woolery-dead-wheel-fortune-love-connection-1236070165/</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:RachelTensions" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RachelTensions">RachelTensions</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RachelTensions" title="User talk:RachelTensions">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RachelTensions&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BChuck+Woolery%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Chuck+Woolery&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Filmography needs sourcing. <a href="/wiki/User:RachelTensions" class="mw-redirect" title="User:RachelTensions">RachelTensions</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RachelTensions" title="User talk:RachelTensions">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-RachelTensions-20241124060500-RD:_Chuck_Woolery" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:05, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Soft support filmography needs sourcing, but other than that it only has two cn tags. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241124151200-RachelTensions-20241124060500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="November_22" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_22-20241122034800">November 22</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: November 22">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Current_events/2024_November_22" title="Portal:Current events/2024 November 22">Portal:Current events/2024 November 22</a></div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248507241"><div class="current-events"> <div role="region" aria-label="November 22" id="2024_November_22" class="current-events-main vevent"> <div class="current-events-heading plainlinks"> <div class="current-events-title" role="heading">November 22, 2024 (2024-11-22) (Friday) </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_22&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_22&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_22&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> Armed conflicts and attacks <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict" class="mw-redirect" title="Israel–Hezbollah conflict">Israel–Hezbollah conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Beqaa_Valley_airstrikes" title="2024 Beqaa Valley airstrikes">2024 Beqaa Valley airstrikes</a> <ul><li>An <a href="/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces" title="Israel Defense Forces">Israeli</a> airstrike targeting the <a href="/wiki/List_of_hospitals_in_Lebanon" title="List of hospitals in Lebanon">Dar El Amal Hospital</a> in <a href="/wiki/Duris,_Lebanon" title="Duris, Lebanon">Duris</a> in the <a href="/wiki/Bekaa_Valley" class="mw-redirect" title="Bekaa Valley">Bekaa Valley</a>, <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a>, kills the hospital director and six other <a href="/wiki/Health_workers" class="mw-redirect" title="Health workers">health workers</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-army-kills-hospital-director-6-staffers-in-deliberate-airstrike-on-his-home-in-eastern-lebanon-report/3401759">(Anadolu Agency)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/22/israel-bombards-beirut-suburbs-as-fighting-rages-in-southern-lebanon">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon" title="2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon">2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon</a> <ul><li>At least five <a href="/wiki/Medic" title="Medic">medics</a> are killed when <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israeli</a> airstrikes hit a multistorey building in <a href="/wiki/Chyah" title="Chyah">Chyah</a>, <a href="/wiki/Beirut" title="Beirut">Beirut</a>, Lebanon. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/22/israel-bombards-beirut-suburbs-as-fighting-rages-in-southern-lebanon">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Kursk_offensive" title="2024 Kursk offensive">2024 Kursk offensive</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russian</a> human rights commissioner <a href="/wiki/Tatyana_Moskalkova" title="Tatyana Moskalkova">Tatyana Moskalkova</a> states that 46 of one thousand <a href="/wiki/Russians" title="Russians">Russian civilians</a> who claimed to have been forcibly relocated by <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a> into its territory have been returned, following extensive negotiations involving the <a href="/wiki/International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement" title="International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement">Red Cross</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-kyiv-returned-46-civilians-taken-ukraine-after-incursion-2024-11-22/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Two people are killed and 12 others are injured in a Russian <a href="/wiki/Drone_warfare" title="Drone warfare">drone</a> attack on <a href="/wiki/Civilian" title="Civilian">civilian</a> infrastructure in <a href="/wiki/Sumy" title="Sumy">Sumy</a>, Ukraine. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-drone-attack-sumy-kills-two-injures-12-local-authorities-say-2024-11-22/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Insurgency_in_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sectarian_violence_in_Pakistan" title="Sectarian violence in Pakistan">Sectarian violence in Pakistan</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Kurram_massacre" class="mw-redirect" title="2024 Kurram massacre">2024 Kurram massacre</a> <ul><li>Large crowds of protesters gather in <a href="/wiki/Parachinar" title="Parachinar">Parachinar</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a>, to protest the massacre of 50 <a href="/wiki/Shia_Islam" title="Shia Islam">Shiite</a> <a href="/wiki/Pakistanis" title="Pakistanis">Pakistanis</a> as well as the ongoing <a href="/wiki/Sectarian_violence" title="Sectarian violence">sectarian violence</a> in the region. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pakistani-town-uproar-after-40-shiites-gunned-down-bus-convoy-2024-11-22/">(Reuters)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://menafn.com/1108915953/Fear-Grips-Pakistans-Kurram-District-As-50-Killed-In-Cold-Blood">(MENAFN)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/New_People%27s_Army_rebellion" title="New People's Army rebellion">New People's Army rebellion</a> <ul><li>Eight <a href="/wiki/New_People%27s_Army" title="New People's Army">New People's Army</a> guerrillas are killed after two separate encounters since yesterday by the <a href="/wiki/Philippine_Army" title="Philippine Army">Philippine Army</a> in <a href="/wiki/Candoni" title="Candoni">Candoni</a>, <a href="/wiki/Negros_Occidental" title="Negros Occidental">Negros Occidental</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.philstar.com/nation/2024/11/25/2402752/fatalities-negros-clashes-climb-8/">(The Philippine Star)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Mali_War" title="Mali War">Mali War</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Jama%27at_Nasr_al-Islam_wal-Muslimin" title="Jama'at Nasr al-Islam wal-Muslimin">Jama'at Nasr al-Islam wal-Muslimin</a> claims responsibility for an attack in <a href="/wiki/Mali" title="Mali">Mali</a> the previous day which killed seven <a href="/wiki/Wagner_Group" title="Wagner Group">Wagner Group</a> mercenaries. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/least-seven-russian-mercenaries-killed-mali-attack-2024-11-22/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Mexican_drug_war" title="Mexican drug war">Mexican drug war</a> <ul><li>The bodies of six people were found at the height of the Alazán Plan ejido with signs of torture on the highway that connects the municipalities of <a href="/wiki/San_Fernando,_Tamaulipas" title="San Fernando, Tamaulipas">San Fernando</a> with <a href="/wiki/Reynosa_Municipality" title="Reynosa Municipality">Reynosa</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.excelsior.com.mx/nacional/tamaulipas-hallan-6-cuerpos-22-noviembre-2024-san-fernando-reynosa/1685807">(Excelsior)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Business and economy <ul><li><a href="/wiki/German_economic_crisis_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="German economic crisis (2022–present)">German economic crisis</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Germany" title="Germany">German</a> <a href="/wiki/Automotive_industry" title="Automotive industry">automotive supplier</a> <a href="/wiki/Bosch_(company)" title="Bosch (company)">Bosch</a> announces plans to <a href="/wiki/Layoff" title="Layoff">lay off</a> 5,550 employees, including 3,500 by 2027, as part of measures to reduce costs. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/germany-bosch-to-cut-5000-jobs-with-car-industry-in-crisis/a-70862628">(DW)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/bosch-axe-5550-jobs-latest-blow-german-auto-sector-2024-11-22/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Disasters and accidents <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" title="2024 Laos methanol poisoning">2024 Laos methanol poisoning</a> <ul><li>A second <a href="/wiki/Australians" title="Australians">Australian</a> tourist dies of <a href="/wiki/Methanol_toxicity" title="Methanol toxicity">alcohol poisoning</a> in <a href="/wiki/Vang_Vieng" title="Vang Vieng">Vang Vieng</a>, <a href="/wiki/Laos" title="Laos">Laos</a>, bringing the death toll from the incident to six. Eight others remain hospitalized. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-22/holly-bowles-dies-methanol-poisoning-laos-bianca-jones-melbourne/104632612">(ABC News Australia)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Health and environment <ul><li>An infant dies and at least ten other people fall ill in a <a href="/wiki/Listeriosis" title="Listeriosis">listeria outbreak</a> related to ready-to-eat meat and poultry products in <a href="/wiki/California" title="California">California</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/yu-shang-food-listeria-death-infant-illness-b8b3c72f331db48b26c33949006f0d3a">(AP)</a></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Conscription_of_yeshiva_students" title="Conscription of yeshiva students">Conscription of yeshiva students</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces" title="Israel Defense Forces">Israel Defense Forces</a> issue more than 1,000 <a href="/wiki/Arrest_warrant" title="Arrest warrant">arrest warrants</a> to <a href="/wiki/Haredi_Judaism" title="Haredi Judaism">ultra-Orthodox Jews</a> in <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israel</a> for <a href="/wiki/Draft_evasion" title="Draft evasion">evading draft orders</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/19/middleeast/israel-arrest-warrants-ultra-orthodox-draft-intl-latam/index.html">(CNN)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-issued-over-1000-arrest-warrants-to-ultra-orthodox-who-ignored-draft-orders-says-officer/">(The Times of Israel)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Norway%E2%80%93United_States_relations" title="Norway–United States relations">Norway–United States relations</a> <ul><li>A <a href="/wiki/Norwegians" title="Norwegians">Norwegian</a> man working as a guard at the <a href="/wiki/Embassy_of_the_United_States,_Oslo" title="Embassy of the United States, Oslo">United States Embassy</a> in <a href="/wiki/Oslo" title="Oslo">Oslo</a> is arrested, on suspicion of <a href="/wiki/Espionage" title="Espionage">spying</a> for <a href="/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Service_(Russia)" title="Foreign Intelligence Service (Russia)">Russia</a> and <a href="/wiki/Council_for_Intelligence_Coordination" title="Council for Intelligence Coordination">Iran</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/22/politics/norwegian-embassy-guard-accused-spy-russia-iran/index.html">(CNN)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Energy_industry" title="Energy industry">Energy company</a> <a href="/wiki/Phillips_66" title="Phillips 66">Phillips 66</a> is indicted in a <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> <a href="/wiki/Federal_judiciary_of_the_United_States" title="Federal judiciary of the United States">federal court</a> on six charges of violating the <a href="/wiki/Clean_Water_Act" title="Clean Water Act">Clean Water Act</a> in <a href="/wiki/Los_Angeles_County" class="mw-redirect" title="Los Angeles County">Los Angeles County</a>, <a href="/wiki/California" title="California">California</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/losangeles/news/phillips-66-faces-federal-charges-accused-of-polluting-la-sewers-with-790000-gallons-of-wastewater/">(CBS News)</a></li></ul> Politics and elections <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Senegalese_parliamentary_election" title="2024 Senegalese parliamentary election">2024 Senegalese parliamentary election</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/National_Autonomous_Electoral_Commission_(Senegal)" title="National Autonomous Electoral Commission (Senegal)">National Autonomous Electoral Commission</a> of <a href="/wiki/Senegal" title="Senegal">Senegal</a> certifies the results of the <a href="/wiki/National_Assembly_(Senegal)" title="National Assembly (Senegal)">parliamentary</a> election, with the ruling <a href="/wiki/PASTEF" title="PASTEF">PASTEF</a> party winning 130 out of 165 seats. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rfi.fr/fr/afrique/20241121-s%C3%A9n%C3%A9gal-le-parti-au-pouvoir-pastef-remporte-haut-la-main-les-l%C3%A9gislatives-anticip%C3%A9es-du-17-novembre">(RFI)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/21/senegals-ruling-pastef-party-secures-large-majority-in-parliament">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Nicaragua" title="Nicaragua">Nicaraguan</a> lawmakers vote unanimously to approve a <a href="/wiki/Constitution_of_Nicaragua" title="Constitution of Nicaragua">constitutional amendment</a> that strengthens the political power of <a href="/wiki/President_of_Nicaragua" title="President of Nicaragua">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Daniel_Ortega" title="Daniel Ortega">Daniel Ortega</a> and makes his wife and <a href="/wiki/Vice_President_of_Nicaragua" title="Vice President of Nicaragua">Vice President</a> <a href="/wiki/Rosario_Murillo" title="Rosario Murillo">Rosario Murillo</a> "co-president". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://confidencial.digital/english/ortega-and-murillo-seize-absolute-power-in-nicaragua/">(Confidencial)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/22/nicaragua-approves-reforms-boosting-power-of-president-ortega-and-his-wife">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul> Science and technology <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Censorship_in_Belarus" title="Censorship in Belarus">Censorship in Belarus</a> <ul><li>In a speech at <a href="/wiki/Minsk_State_Linguistic_University" title="Minsk State Linguistic University">Minsk State Linguistic University</a>, <a href="/wiki/President_of_Belarus" title="President of Belarus">Belarusian President</a> <a href="/wiki/Alexander_Lukashenko" title="Alexander Lukashenko">Alexander Lukashenko</a> threatens to shut down the <a href="/wiki/Internet" title="Internet">Internet</a> in <a href="/wiki/Belarus" title="Belarus">his country</a> if there are mass protests before the <a href="/wiki/2025_Belarusian_presidential_election" title="2025 Belarusian presidential election">upcoming presidential election</a> after the <a href="/wiki/2020_Belarusian_presidential_election" title="2020 Belarusian presidential election">previous election</a> saw <a href="/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_Belarusian_protests" title="2020–2021 Belarusian protests">mass protests</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rferl.org/a/belarus-lukashenka-internet-shutdown-protests/33211982.html">(Rferl)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Instagram" title="Instagram">Instagram</a> <a href="/wiki/Chief_executive_officer" title="Chief executive officer">CEO</a> <a href="/wiki/Adam_Mosseri" title="Adam Mosseri">Adam Mosseri</a> announces that <a href="/wiki/Meta_Platforms" title="Meta Platforms">Meta Platforms</a> social network <a href="/wiki/Threads_(social_network)" title="Threads (social network)">Threads</a> will test <a href="/wiki/Artificial_intelligence" title="Artificial intelligence">AI</a>-powered summaries for trending topics. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/22/taking-a-cue-from-x-threads-tests-ai-powered-summaries-of-trending-topics/">(TechCrunch)</a></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_Russia_launches_ICBM/IRBM_into_Ukraine" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_Russia_launches_ICBM/IRBM_into_Ukraine-November_22-20241122170300">(Closed) Russia launches ICBM/IRBM into Ukraine</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: (Closed) Russia launches ICBM/IRBM into Ukraine">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Non-admin closure per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SNOW" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SNOW">WP:SNOW</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20241123004100-(Closed)_Russia_launches_ICBM/IRBM_into_Ukraine" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Oreshnik_(missile)" title="Oreshnik (missile)">Oreshnik (missile)</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Oreshnik_(missile)" title="Talk:Oreshnik (missile)">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oreshnik_(missile)&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Oreshnik_(missile)&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Oreshnik+%28missile%29">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a> launches a hypersonic projectile claimed to be an <a href="/wiki/Oreshnik_(missile)" title="Oreshnik (missile)">Oreshnik</a> <a href="/wiki/Intermediate-range_ballistic_missile" title="Intermediate-range ballistic missile">intermediate-range ballistic missile</a> from <a href="/wiki/Astrakhan_Oblast" title="Astrakhan Oblast">Astrakhan Oblast</a> in a conventional strike on <a href="/wiki/Dnipro" title="Dnipro">Dnipro</a>, <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-launches-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-attack-ukraine-kyiv-says-2024-11-21/">Reuters</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:219.74.216.56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:219.74.216.56 (page does not exist)">219.74.216.56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:219.74.216.56" title="User talk:219.74.216.56">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:219.74.216.56&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BOreshnik+%28missile%29%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Oreshnik+%28missile%29&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div>Nominator's comments: Major escalation of Russian invasion of Ukraine. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:219.74.216.56&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:219.74.216.56 (page does not exist)">219.74.216.56</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:219.74.216.56#top" title="User talk:219.74.216.56">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/219.74.216.56" title="Special:Contributions/219.74.216.56">contribs</a>) <ul><li>What exactly was launched is unclear, as we can't take Russia's own claims to their word, and more reliable sources says it wasn't ICBMs <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-war-missiles-kyiv-claims-icbm-dnipro-after-atacams-strike/">[9]</a>. This is an escalation, but at this point, reasonably covered by the ongoing. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241122170300-(Closed)_Russia_launches_ICBM/IRBM_into_Ukraine" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Strong oppose - this was NOT a nuclear warhead, and we have an article for the projectile - <a href="/wiki/Oreshnik_(missile)" title="Oreshnik (missile)">Oreshnik (missile)</a>. Let's not puff it up any more than it was. We didn't post Ukraine using West-supplied long-range missiles and Putin's nuclear threats that he always makes, so let's not post the use of Russia's shiny new toy. Also, you may want to use a template for future ITN submissions. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241122172600-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Moved to a template. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241122173200-Departure–-20241122172600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose per Masem and Departure. Covered by ongoing. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241122185500-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose. Appears not to be an ICBM, which might be notable. Otherwise, this appears to be suitably covered by ongoing. ---- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241122190400-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support in principle, just change blurb according to RS, major escalation. <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20241122204200-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Could you point me towards the RS that states this was an ICBM, or anything other than the blurb states, then? Also, this wasn't even the only hypersonic ballistic missile launch that day. Multiple <a href="/wiki/Kh-47M2_Kinzhal" title="Kh-47M2 Kinzhal">Kh-47M2 Kinzhal</a> strikes were reported in the same Reuters article. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241122204700-BilboBeggins-20241122204200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Ok, source state that it was new intermediate-range ballistic missile.</dd> <dd>But also that it was a nuclear-capable weapon <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/22/what-do-we-know-about-russias-new-ballistic-missile-oreshnik">[10]</a>.</dd> <dd>It was a major escalation and major event in war, Putin addressed the nation, which he only did after the start of the war, mobilisation, and Prigozhin mutiny. <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20241122214100-Departure–-20241122204700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The Kinzhal also has nuclear capabilities. Prigozhin's mutiny was quite a while ago so it tracks he'd make another address to remind the West there's a war going on, even when it's just a new weapon. I'd prefer not to take Putin on his word that this was something special. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241122214900-BilboBeggins-20241122214100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Oppose per Departure- <a href="/wiki/User:TheHiddenCity" title="User:TheHiddenCity">TheHiddenCity|</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheHiddenCity" title="User talk:TheHiddenCity">talk</a>) — Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">undated</a> comment added <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheHiddenCity-20241122215400-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose good faith nom. Just another day in a country that's been ruthlessly invaded and subjected to near daily indiscriminate bombing attacks. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20241122220100-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose not actually an intercontinental ballistic missile nor nuclear. If one of those is launched, would be more likely to fulfill notability requirement. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241122221300-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose Covered by Ongoing, <a href="/wiki/User:Editor_5426387" title="User:Editor 5426387">Editor 5426387</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Editor_5426387" title="User talk:Editor 5426387">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Editor_5426387-20241122224600-Masem-20241122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="2024_Kurram_massacre" data-mw-thread-id="h-2024_Kurram_massacre-November_22-20241122034800">2024 Kurram massacre</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: 2024 Kurram massacre">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_Kurram_massacre" class="mw-redirect" title="2024 Kurram massacre">2024 Kurram massacre</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_Kurram_massacre" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:2024 Kurram massacre">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_Kurram_massacre&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_Kurram_massacre&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Kurram+massacre">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/2024_Kurram_massacre" class="mw-redirect" title="2024 Kurram massacre">Gunmen attacked</a> a large passenger convoy of vehicles in <a href="/wiki/Kurram_district" class="mw-redirect" title="Kurram district">Kurram district</a> of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province of Pakistan, resulting in the death of 50 people and 30 injuries. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqxw18yvrndo">BBC</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/gun-attack-passenger-vans-pakistan-claims-11-lives-2024-11-21/">Reuters</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/world/asia/kurram-pakistan-attack.html">NY Times</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.voanews.com/a/gunmen-massacre-dozens-of-passengers-in-pakistan/7872050.html">VOA</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.app.com.pk/national/kp-cm-condemns-armed-attack-on-passenger-vehicles-in-kurram/">APP</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/21/dozens-killed-in-north-west-pakistan-in-gun-attack-on-shia-convoy">The Guardian</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/pakistan-gunmen-kill-38-on-highway-near-afghan-border/a-70845391">DW</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/video/shootings-pakistan-a7cbc00ab0574ecbb1da8be8308a8da6">AP</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Ainty_Painty" title="User:Ainty Painty">Ainty Painty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ainty_Painty" title="User talk:Ainty Painty">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ainty_Painty&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Kurram+massacre%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Kurram+massacre&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:Noble_Attempt" title="User:Noble Attempt">Noble Attempt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Noble_Attempt" title="User talk:Noble Attempt">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Noble_Attempt&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Kurram+massacre%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Kurram+massacre&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Ainty_Painty" title="User:Ainty Painty">Ainty Painty</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ainty_Painty" title="User talk:Ainty Painty">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800-2024_Kurram_massacre" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support: Seems noteworthy. Deserves attention. <a href="/wiki/User:Ivebeenhacked" title="User:Ivebeenhacked">Hacked</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivebeenhacked" title="User talk:Ivebeenhacked">Talk</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked" title="Special:Contributions/Ivebeenhacked">Contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ivebeenhacked-20241122040500-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support: Another major attack that should be on the main page. <a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harizotoh9" title="User talk:Harizotoh9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Harizotoh9-20241122053500-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:35, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support: A very significant and major insurgent attack, should be on the main <a href="/wiki/User:M_Waleed" title="User:M Waleed">Waleed</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:M_Waleed#top" title="User talk:M Waleed">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-M_Waleed-20241122053900-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose on quality Seems too short, and what reactions there are are the usual "fluff" in the sense that there's condolances and not actual any actions. Likely needs a background section too. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241122055800-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Local leaders complaining of a lack of security, officials saying the death toll will rise, and the PM and President both commenting on the incident are not "fluff". The entire section is only 5 sentences long. <a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harizotoh9" title="User talk:Harizotoh9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Harizotoh9-20241122060900-Masem-20241122055800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I would expect a good reaction section not to be flooded with non-action statements of sympathy and anger, but actual steps towards action to investigate and make sure such events happen again, what they are doing for familes of the victims, etc. (eg: its far too easy for quote anyone with "thoughts and prayers" after a tragic event, that doesn't make for good encyclopedic content) — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241122131900-Harizotoh9-20241122060900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose: Not enough sources, and it reads as a stub. <a href="/wiki/User:Aneirinn" title="User:Aneirinn">Aneirinn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aneirinn" title="User talk:Aneirinn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Aneirinn-20241122063600-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:36, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose on quality as the article is barebones. Support on notability, however. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241122073000-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Sectarian nature makes it more relevant to mention in the headline.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sportsnut24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sportsnut24 (page does not exist)">Sportsnut24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sportsnut24" title="User talk:Sportsnut24">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Sportsnut24-20241122101500-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:15, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose on quality, support on notability the ongoing land dispute & sectarian conflict which is at the source of the attack needs to be fleshed out in the background section. As of now, all the article says is "Sunni and Shia Muslims are in conflict in the region over a dispute over land". That is nowhere near a sufficient explanation. We can't put an incomplete article on the main page. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241122221900-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>support I don't see the Quality problems that other voter are talking about, it looks fine to me. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241124151100-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose on quality Seems short, I'd like to have it with more detail. Support on notability A significant <a href="/wiki/Shia-Sunni_relations" class="mw-redirect" title="Shia-Sunni relations">Shia-Sunni relations</a> attack <a href="/wiki/User:TheHiddenCity" title="User:TheHiddenCity">TheHiddenCity</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheHiddenCity" title="User talk:TheHiddenCity">talk</a>) 22:27, 22 November (UTC)</li> <li>Support: - Notable, ITN-worthy and likely to be expanded further. I don’t think the brevity is sufficient reason not to post. <a href="/wiki/User:Jusdafax" title="User:Jusdafax">Jusdafax</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jusdafax" title="User talk:Jusdafax">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Jusdafax-20241126204900-Ainty_Painty-20241122034800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="November_21" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_21-20241121122500">November 21</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: November 21">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Current_events/2024_November_21" title="Portal:Current events/2024 November 21">Portal:Current events/2024 November 21</a></div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248507241"><div class="current-events"> <div role="region" aria-label="November 21" id="2024_November_21" class="current-events-main vevent"> <div class="current-events-heading plainlinks"> <div class="current-events-title" role="heading">November 21, 2024 (2024-11-21) (Thursday) </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_21&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_21&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_21&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> Armed conflicts and attacks <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Dnipro_strikes_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="Dnipro strikes (2022–present)">Dnipro strikes</a>, <a href="/wiki/Russian_strikes_against_Ukrainian_infrastructure_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure (2022–present)">Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces" title="Russian Armed Forces">Russia</a> strikes <a href="/wiki/Dnipro" title="Dnipro">Dnipro</a>, Ukraine, with a projectile stated by <a href="/wiki/President_of_Russia" title="President of Russia">Russian President</a> <a href="/wiki/Vladimir_Putin" title="Vladimir Putin">Vladimir Putin</a> to be a new <a href="/wiki/Oreshnik_(missile)" title="Oreshnik (missile)">Oreshnik</a> <a href="/wiki/Intermediate-range_ballistic_missile" title="Intermediate-range ballistic missile">intermediate-range ballistic missile</a> (IRBM) model. This confirms earlier reports from the <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> and other western officials, who said that Russia had used an IRBM after initial reports misidentified the missile as a <a href="/wiki/RS-26_Rubezh" title="RS-26 Rubezh">RS-26 Rubezh</a> <a href="/wiki/Intercontinental_ballistic_missile" title="Intercontinental ballistic missile">intercontinental ballistic missile</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-launches-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-attack-ukraine-kyiv-says-2024-11-21/">(Reuters)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-war-missiles-kyiv-claims-icbm-dnipro-after-atacams-strike/">(CBS News)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c20726y20kvt?post=asset%3A47fd8644-8538-475d-a3cc-6f5714f0d191#post">(BBC News)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Hungary_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Hungary and the Russian invasion of Ukraine">Hungary and the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Hungary" title="Hungary">Hungary</a> announces the deployment of a <a href="/wiki/Missile_defense" title="Missile defense">missile defense</a> system on <a href="/wiki/Hungary%E2%80%93Ukraine_border" title="Hungary–Ukraine border">its border</a> with <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a>, saying that the threat of escalation with <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a> is now "greater than ever". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/hungary-install-air-defence-system-near-ukraine-border-2024-11-21/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/United_Kingdom_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="United Kingdom and the Russian invasion of Ukraine">United Kingdom and the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/List_of_ambassadors_of_Russia_to_the_United_Kingdom" title="List of ambassadors of Russia to the United Kingdom">Russian ambassador</a> to the <a href="/wiki/United_Kingdom" title="United Kingdom">United Kingdom</a> <a href="/wiki/Andrey_Kelin" title="Andrey Kelin">Andrey Kelin</a> says that the UK is now "directly involved" in the war in Ukraine following yesterday's use of British <a href="/wiki/Storm_Shadow" title="Storm Shadow">Storm Shadow</a> <a href="/wiki/Cruise_missile" title="Cruise missile">cruise missiles</a> by Ukraine to strike targets inside Russia. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://news.sky.com/story/britain-directly-involved-in-ukraine-war-russian-ambassador-tells-sky-news-13257896">(Sky News)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Insurgency_in_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Sectarian_violence_in_Pakistan" title="Sectarian violence in Pakistan">Sectarian violence in Pakistan</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Kurram_massacre" class="mw-redirect" title="2024 Kurram massacre">2024 Kurram massacre</a> <ul><li>At least 42 people are killed and many others are wounded as gunmen <a href="/wiki/Mass_shooting" title="Mass shooting">open fire</a> against two convoys carrying <a href="/wiki/Shia_Islam" title="Shia Islam">Shia</a> people in <a href="/wiki/Kurram_District" title="Kurram District">Kurram District</a>, <a href="/wiki/Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/22/dozens-killed-in-sectarian-violence-in-pakistans-khyber-pakhtunkhwa">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)">Israel–Hezbollah conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Hezbollah" title="Hezbollah">Hezbollah</a> fires a rocket barrage at <a href="/wiki/Northern_District_(Israel)" title="Northern District (Israel)">northern</a> <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israel</a>, killing one person in the city of <a href="/wiki/Nahariya" title="Nahariya">Nahariya</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/man-killed-rocket-attack-northern-israeli-town-israeli-medics-say-2024-11-21/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Colombian_conflict" title="Colombian conflict">Colombian conflict</a> <ul><li>Five <a href="/wiki/Colombian_Army" class="mw-redirect" title="Colombian Army">soldiers</a> are killed and four other people are injured after bombing attack in the municipality of <a href="/wiki/Anor%C3%AD" title="Anorí">Anorí</a>, <a href="/wiki/Antioquia_Department" title="Antioquia Department">Antioquia Department</a>, <a href="/wiki/Colombia" title="Colombia">Colombia</a>. The <a href="/wiki/National_Liberation_Army_(Colombia)" title="National Liberation Army (Colombia)">National Liberation Army</a> is blamed. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://elpais.com/america-colombia/2024-11-21/el-eln-asesina-a-cinco-soldados-cerca-de-un-espacio-de-reincorporacion-en-antioquia-a-dos-anos-del-inicio-de-los-dialogos-de-paz.html">(El País)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Disasters and accidents <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" title="2024 Laos methanol poisoning">2024 Laos methanol poisoning</a> <ul><li>An <a href="/wiki/Australian_people" class="mw-redirect" title="Australian people">Australian</a> and a <a href="/wiki/British_people" title="British people">British</a> tourist die after <a href="/wiki/Methanol_toxicity" title="Methanol toxicity">consuming poisoned alcohol</a> in <a href="/wiki/Vang_Vieng" title="Vang Vieng">Vang Vieng</a>, <a href="/wiki/Laos" title="Laos">Laos</a>, bringing the death toll from the incident to five. Nine others are hospitalized. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx27wyrxz9yo">(BBC News)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/australian-laos-thailand-alcohol-poisoning-american-new-zealand-d44a61c3a12bbee4fd917346493d7f94">(AP)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Health and environment <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Ministry_of_Health_(New_Zealand)" title="Ministry of Health (New Zealand)">Ministry of Health</a> of <a href="/wiki/New_Zealand" title="New Zealand">New Zealand</a> declares a national <a href="/wiki/Epidemic" title="Epidemic">epidemic</a> of <a href="/wiki/Whooping_cough" title="Whooping cough">whooping cough</a> after a recent spike of 263 cases in the past four weeks. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/534519/new-zealand-declares-whooping-cough-epidemic">(RNZ)</a></li></ul> International relations <ul><li><a href="/wiki/International_sanctions_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="International sanctions during the Russian invasion of Ukraine">International sanctions during the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a>, <a href="/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93United_States_relations" title="Russia–United States relations">Russia–United States relations</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Treasury" title="United States Secretary of the Treasury">U.S. Treasury Secretary</a> <a href="/wiki/Janet_Yellen" title="Janet Yellen">Janet Yellen</a> announces that the <a href="/wiki/United_States_Department_of_the_Treasury" title="United States Department of the Treasury">Treasury Department</a> has imposed sanctions against <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a>'s third-largest bank <a href="/wiki/Gazprombank" title="Gazprombank">Gazprombank</a> and its subsidiaries. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://thehill.com/policy/international/5002275-treasury-imposes-sanctions-on-russian-banks-financial-officials/">(The Hill)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2022_Brazilian_coup_plot" title="2022 Brazilian coup plot">2022 Brazilian coup plot</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Brazil" title="Brazil">Brazilian</a> <a href="/wiki/Federal_Police_(Brazil)" class="mw-redirect" title="Federal Police (Brazil)">Federal Police</a> indicts former <a href="/wiki/President_of_Brazil" title="President of Brazil">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Jair_Bolsonaro" title="Jair Bolsonaro">Jair Bolsonaro</a> and 36 others for attempting a <a href="/wiki/Coup" class="mw-redirect" title="Coup">coup</a> after he lost to <a href="/wiki/Lula_da_Silva" class="mw-redirect" title="Lula da Silva">Lula da Silva</a> in the <a href="/wiki/2022_Brazilian_presidential_election" class="mw-redirect" title="2022 Brazilian presidential election">2022 election</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-indictment-0d62fe0a7399483aee48cf3c845560ea">(AP)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Novi_Sad_railway_station_canopy_collapse" title="Novi Sad railway station canopy collapse">Novi Sad railway station canopy collapse</a> <ul><li>Eleven people, including former <a href="/wiki/Ministry_of_Construction,_Transport_and_Infrastructure_(Serbia)" title="Ministry of Construction, Transport and Infrastructure (Serbia)">construction minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Goran_Vesi%C4%87" title="Goran Vesić">Goran Vesić</a>, are arrested as part of an investigation into the <a href="/wiki/Novi_Sad_railway_station" title="Novi Sad railway station">Novi Sad railway station</a> accident that caused 15 deaths earlier this month. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/serbian-train-station-collapse-prompts-wave-of-arrests/a-70854872">(DW)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://al24news.com/en/serbia-arrests-11-over-fatal-train-station-accident/">(AL24)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war" title="War crimes in the Israel–Hamas war">War crimes in the Israel–Hamas war</a>, <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine" title="International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine">International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Israeli_figures" title="International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures">International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court" title="International Criminal Court">International Criminal Court</a> issues arrest warrants for <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Israel" title="Prime Minister of Israel">Israeli Prime Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu" title="Benjamin Netanyahu">Benjamin Netanyahu</a>, former <a href="/wiki/Ministry_of_Defense_(Israel)" title="Ministry of Defense (Israel)">Israeli minister of defense</a> <a href="/wiki/Yoav_Gallant" title="Yoav Gallant">Yoav Gallant</a>, and the leader of <a href="/wiki/Hamas" title="Hamas">Hamas</a>' <a href="/wiki/Al-Qassam_Brigades" title="Al-Qassam Brigades">military wing</a> <a href="/wiki/Mohammed_Deif" title="Mohammed Deif">Mohammed Deif</a>, who is presumed to be dead. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-830135">(Jerusalem Post)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> Science and technology <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Pakistan" title="Internet censorship in Pakistan">Internet censorship in Pakistan</a> <ul><li>It is reported that <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a> internet authorities have banned the use of <a href="/wiki/Bluesky" title="Bluesky">Bluesky</a> in the country amidst a surge in popularity in the app. The ban is confirmed by internet watchdog <a href="/wiki/NetBlocks" title="NetBlocks">NetBlocks</a> in a post on X (formerly known as <a href="/wiki/Twitter" title="Twitter">Twitter</a>). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.techradar.com/pro/vpn/pakistan-blocks-bluesky-amid-popularity-surge">(TechRadar)</a></li></ul></li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/European_Southern_Observatory" title="European Southern Observatory">European Southern Observatory</a> announces that its astronomers in <a href="/wiki/Chile" title="Chile">Chile</a> capture the first close-up image of a <a href="/wiki/WOH_G64" title="WOH G64">star</a> outside the <a href="/wiki/Milky_Way" title="Milky Way">Milky Way</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/science/behemoth-star-closeup-picture.html">(The New York Times)</a></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Alice_Brock" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Alice_Brock-November_21-20241125034400">RD: Alice Brock</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: RD: Alice Brock">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Alice_Brock" title="Alice Brock">Alice Brock</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Alice_Brock" title="Talk:Alice Brock">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alice_Brock&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Alice_Brock&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Alice+Brock">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alice-brock-arlo-guthrie-alices-restaurant-dead-rcna181486">NBC News</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD (page does not exist)">240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BAlice+Brock%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Alice+Brock&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Mn_monkey" title="User:Mn monkey">Mn monkey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mn_monkey" title="User talk:Mn monkey">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mn_monkey&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BAlice+Brock%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Alice+Brock&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:JMyrleFuller" title="User:JMyrleFuller">JMyrleFuller</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JMyrleFuller" title="User talk:JMyrleFuller">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JMyrleFuller&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BAlice+Brock%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Alice+Brock&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD" title="Special:Contributions/240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD">240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD-20241125034400-RD:_Alice_Brock" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support. Looks good to me. 🛧<a href="/wiki/User:Midori_No_Sora" title="User:Midori No Sora">Midori No Sora♪</a>🛪 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Midori_No_Sora" title="User talk:Midori No Sora"> ☁＝☁＝✈</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Midori_No_Sora-20241125061900-240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD-20241125034400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:19, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support: - Informative, well-sourced article that is ready for the Front Page. <a href="/wiki/User:Jusdafax" title="User:Jusdafax">Jusdafax</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jusdafax" title="User talk:Jusdafax">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Jusdafax-20241126205700-240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD-20241125034400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Satis. <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Grimes2-20241126211000-240F:7A:6253:1:81A9:9B3:1C4C:1AAD-20241125034400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_Gautam_Adani_indicted" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_Gautam_Adani_indicted-November_21-20241122072700">(Closed) Gautam Adani indicted</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: (Closed) Gautam Adani indicted">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">No consensus to post is likely emerge; some consensus that the entire topic is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFD">not even notable</a>, however, might. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241122120900-(Closed)_Gautam_Adani_indicted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 121px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:Gautam_Adani.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Gautam_Adani.jpg/121px-Gautam_Adani.jpg" decoding="async" width="121" height="162" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Gautam_Adani.jpg/182px-Gautam_Adani.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Gautam_Adani.jpg/242px-Gautam_Adani.jpg 2x" data-file-width="392" data-file-height="525"/></a></div> </div>Articles: <a href="/wiki/Gautam_Adani" title="Gautam Adani">Gautam Adani</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Gautam_Adani" title="Talk:Gautam Adani">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gautam_Adani&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gautam_Adani&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gautam+Adani">tag</a>) and <a href="/wiki/United_States_of_America_v._Gautam_Adani_et_al." title="United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al.">United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al.</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:United_States_of_America_v._Gautam_Adani_et_al." title="Talk:United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al.">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_of_America_v._Gautam_Adani_et_al.&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:United_States_of_America_v._Gautam_Adani_et_al.&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=United+States+of+America+v.+Gautam+Adani+et+al.">tag</a>) Blurb: Indian billionaire <a href="/wiki/Gautam_Adani#Bribery_charges" title="Gautam Adani">Gautam Adani</a> and his associates <a href="/wiki/United_States_of_America_v._Gautam_Adani_et_al." title="United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al.">are indicted</a> by federal prosecutors for bribing Indian Government officials and concealing the details from American investors. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-21/who-is-indian-billionaire-gautam-adani-and-what-are-the-us-bribery-charges">[11]</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Ratnahastin" title="User:Ratnahastin">Ratnahastin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ratnahastin" title="User talk:Ratnahastin">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ratnahastin&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BGautam+Adani%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gautam+Adani&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated</div> - <a href="/wiki/User:Ratnahastin" title="User:Ratnahastin">Ratnahastin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ratnahastin" title="User talk:Ratnahastin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ratnahastin-20241122072700-(Closed)_Gautam_Adani_indicted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Oppose at least on quality - the trial article, which should be linked, is a stub. Unsure on notability, as we don't often post trials of individuals aside from major world leaders. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241122072900-Ratnahastin-20241122072700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/United_States_of_America_v._Gautam_Adani_et_al." title="United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al.">United States of America v. Gautam Adani et al.</a>, linking the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241122091200-The_Kip-20241122072900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Oppose on quality and on notability yet another case of corruption of a local personality. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20241122075600-Ratnahastin-20241122072700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose We seem to have a rash of indictments and warrants lately. Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SUSPECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SUSPECT">WP:SUSPECT</a>, "A living person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until convicted by a court of law. Accusations, investigations, arrests and charges do not amount to a conviction." <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241122091700-Ratnahastin-20241122072700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Strong oppose posting this as if he were found guilty violates <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SUSPECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SUSPECT">WP:SUSPECT</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302">Joseph</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">2302</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20241122095300-Ratnahastin-20241122072700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Oppose. Who is this guy? <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20241122104100-Ratnahastin-20241122072700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose. There are lots of reasons why this isn't suitable for ITN. The case article - which should be the bold link - is a stub. This is a domestic case involving a private individual, very different from the ICC seeking a national leader. The case itself does not seem particularly significant, there are fraud and corruption trials all the time. The blurb is misleading, because it incorrectly implies Indian prosecutors, and isn't NPOV. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241122120400-Ratnahastin-20241122072700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_New_Lithuanian_PM" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_New_Lithuanian_PM-November_21-20241122014900">(Posted) New Lithuanian PM</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: (Posted) New Lithuanian PM">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-ITNR"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 171px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg/171px-Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg" decoding="async" width="171" height="114" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg/257px-Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg/342px-Gintautas_Paluckas_by_Augustas_Didzgalvis.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1800" data-file-height="1200"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/Gintautas_Paluckas" title="Gintautas Paluckas">Gintautas Paluckas</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Gintautas_Paluckas" title="Talk:Gintautas Paluckas">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gintautas_Paluckas&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gintautas_Paluckas&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gintautas+Paluckas">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/Gintautas_Paluckas" title="Gintautas Paluckas">Gintautas Paluckas</a> is elected by the <a href="/wiki/Seimas" title="Seimas">Seimas</a> as the new <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Lithuania" title="Prime Minister of Lithuania">Prime Minister of Lithuania</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: Following <a href="/wiki/2024_Lithuanian_parliamentary_election" title="2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election">parliamentary elections</a>, <a href="/wiki/Gintautas_Paluckas" title="Gintautas Paluckas">Gintautas Paluckas</a> is elected by the <a href="/wiki/Seimas" title="Seimas">Seimas</a> as the new <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Lithuania" title="Prime Minister of Lithuania">Prime Minister of Lithuania</a>. News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.politico.eu/article/gintautas-paluckas-is-new-lithuania-pm/">[12]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2419533/gintautas-paluckas-confirmed-as-lithuania-s-prime-minister">[13]</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:98.170.164.88&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:98.170.164.88 (page does not exist)">98.170.164.88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:98.170.164.88" title="User talk:98.170.164.88">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:98.170.164.88&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BGintautas+Paluckas%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gintautas+Paluckas&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Augenis" title="User:Augenis">Augenis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Augenis" title="User talk:Augenis">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Augenis&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BGintautas+Paluckas%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gintautas+Paluckas&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Editorius124" title="User:Editorius124">Editorius124</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Editorius124" title="User talk:Editorius124">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Editorius124&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BGintautas+Paluckas%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Gintautas+Paluckas&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated The nominated event is listed on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/R" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/R">WP:ITN/R</a>, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNCRIT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNCRIT">WP:ITNCRIT</a>, not the significance.</div>Nominator's comments: ITN/R applies as the PM administers the executive branch (per <a href="/wiki/List_of_current_heads_of_state_and_government" title="List of current heads of state and government">here</a>, and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=990691177">the posting of his predecessor</a>), and since Paluckas was not previously mentioned in ITN. The results of the <a href="/wiki/2024_Lithuanian_parliamentary_election" title="2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election">2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election</a> were posted <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&oldid=1254647519">from November 1st</a> to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1255027133">2nd</a>, but that blurb mentioned <a href="/wiki/Vilija_Blinkevi%C4%8Di%C5%ABt%C4%97" title="Vilija Blinkevičiūtė">Vilija Blinkevičiūtė</a> as the leader of the winning party, and she unexpectedly chose not to become PM. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88" title="Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88">98.170.164.88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:98.170.164.88" title="User talk:98.170.164.88">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-98.170.164.88-20241122014900-(Posted)_New_Lithuanian_PM" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Comment: The blurb should get a link to <a href="/wiki/2024_Lithuanian_parliamentary_election" title="2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election">2024 Lithuanian parliamentary election</a>, also that would satisfy ITN/R better. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241122044300-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:43, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Target articles seem to be of adequate quality. Propose altblurb incorporating election article. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241122072700-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support: Seems fair enough and ready. <a href="/wiki/User:Elios_Peredhel" title="User:Elios Peredhel">Elios Peredhel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elios_Peredhel" title="User talk:Elios Peredhel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Elios_Peredhel-20241122081800-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Note After clarifying the issue on the talk page, I just want to point out that he is not technically the PM at the moment. He will officially become PM once his cabinet is finalized, probably in December. I don't think it's a big deal as a lot of changes in political office don't take effect immediately, and this is the stage in the process at which his predecessor was posted to ITN anyway. If we do want to delay it until he is officially the PM, I'm fine with that. If not, perhaps changing the word "new" to "next" in the blurb would better suit his status, although even the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2419533/gintautas-paluckas-confirmed-as-lithuania-s-prime-minister">Lithuanian public broadcaster</a> doesn't do that or make much of a distinction. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88" title="Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88">98.170.164.88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:98.170.164.88" title="User talk:98.170.164.88">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-98.170.164.88-20241122091600-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:16, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>FYI: Trump was posted as soon as he was called the winner of the US elections even though he wont take office until January. <a href="/wiki/User:Prodrummer619" title="User:Prodrummer619">Prodrummer619</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Prodrummer619" title="User talk:Prodrummer619">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Prodrummer619-20241122111800-98.170.164.88-20241122091600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Support. We should post announcement now. <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20241122104100-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support alt blurb : Incorporates both election and his article as it seems PM is not directly elected by people in Lithuania, also he is still not the PM (blurb says he's just elected) and cabinet comes from elected officials. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241122131900-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support no problems quality wise, ITN/R. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241122161900-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support and preferred altblurb. @<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> can this be posted as we seem to have consensus? <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241123150800-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:08, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Posted with altblurb. — <a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk">Red-tailed hawk</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User talk:Red-tailed hawk">(nest)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241124040900-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:09, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Could we please replace the image of Yoav Gallant with <a href="/wiki/File:Gintautas_Paluckas_VRK.jpg" title="File:Gintautas Paluckas VRK.jpg">File:Gintautas Paluckas VRK.jpg</a>? Currently it looks like Gallant is the new Lithuanian PM... <a href="/wiki/User:Toadspike" title="User:Toadspike">Toadspike</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toadspike" title="User talk:Toadspike">[Talk]</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Toadspike-20241125074600-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I agree. Got confused for a moment why Lithuanian PM has a photo with Israeli flag backdrop. <a href="/wiki/User:OhanaUnited" title="User:OhanaUnited">OhanaUnited</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:OhanaUnited" title="User talk:OhanaUnited">Talk page</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-OhanaUnited-20241125141200-Toadspike-20241125074600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>+1 <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/51.154.145.205" title="Special:Contributions/51.154.145.205">51.154.145.205</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:51.154.145.205" title="User talk:51.154.145.205">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-51.154.145.205-20241125145100-Toadspike-20241125074600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd>Someone change photo. Apparently I can't do that. <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20241126120700-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Picture was changed to Paluckas by <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede66</a> on 15:46, 26 November 2024 (UTC). <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241126154600-98.170.164.88-20241122014900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Jodi_Rell" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Jodi_Rell-November_21-20241122003600">RD: Jodi Rell</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: RD: Jodi Rell">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Jodi_Rell" title="Jodi Rell">Jodi Rell</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Jodi_Rell" title="Talk:Jodi Rell">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jodi_Rell&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jodi_Rell&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Jodi+Rell">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/connecticut-governor-jodi-rell-dies-27319b5f00b8287f5666a47f8561aa4c">AP News</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Staraction" title="User:Staraction">Staraction</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staraction" title="User talk:Staraction">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Staraction&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJodi+Rell%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Jodi+Rell&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJodi+Rell%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Jodi+Rell&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Connecticut governor; death announced 21 November. <a href="/wiki/User:Staraction" title="User:Staraction">Staraction</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staraction" title="User talk:Staraction">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Staraction" title="Special:Contributions/Staraction">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Staraction-20241122003600-RD:_Jodi_Rell" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:36, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><ul><li>Oppose: Heavily uncited BLP. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241122043900-Staraction-20241122003600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Bolsonaro_indicted" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bolsonaro_indicted-November_21-20241121221200">Bolsonaro indicted</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Bolsonaro indicted">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/2022_Brazilian_coup_plot" title="2022 Brazilian coup plot">2022 Brazilian coup plot</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2022_Brazilian_coup_plot" title="Talk:2022 Brazilian coup plot">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2022_Brazilian_coup_plot&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2022_Brazilian_coup_plot&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2022+Brazilian+coup+plot">tag</a>) Blurb: Former <a href="/wiki/President_of_Brazil" title="President of Brazil">President of Brazil</a> <a href="/wiki/Jair_Bolsonaro" title="Jair Bolsonaro">Jair Bolsonaro</a> and 36 others are indicted by Brazilian police for their roles in the <a href="/wiki/2022_Brazilian_coup_plot" title="2022 Brazilian coup plot">attempt to overthrow the 2022 election</a>, including the attempted assassination of current president <a href="/wiki/Luiz_In%C3%A1cio_Lula_da_Silva" title="Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva">Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: Former <a href="/wiki/President_of_Brazil" title="President of Brazil">President of Brazil</a> <a href="/wiki/Jair_Bolsonaro" title="Jair Bolsonaro">Jair Bolsonaro</a> and 36 others are formally accused by Brazilian police for their roles in the <a href="/wiki/2022_Brazilian_coup_plot" title="2022 Brazilian coup plot">attempt to overthrow the 2022 election</a>, including the attempted assassination of current president <a href="/wiki/Luiz_In%C3%A1cio_Lula_da_Silva" title="Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva">Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva</a>. News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/21/americas/brazilian-ex-president-jair-bolsonaro-indicted-over-attempted-coup-plot/index.html">CNN</a> [<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-indictment-0d62fe0a7399483aee48cf3c845560ea">AP News</a>] Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2022+Brazilian+coup+plot%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2022+Brazilian+coup+plot&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2022+Brazilian+coup+plot%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2022+Brazilian+coup+plot&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article needs updating</div> <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241121221200-Bolsonaro_indicted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Strong support The fact that Bolsonaro is linked with an attempt to assassinate Lula is notable enough. The indictment is very ITN worthy. The article looks good too aside from two cn tags in the Timeline section (not sure if that section itself needs and expansion). --<a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241121221600-Masem-20241121221200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Note I don't see the indictments added yet. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241121221900-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241121221600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:19, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Added a paragraph about it and a sentence to the lead. <a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241121224500-Masem-20241121221900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>The article does not seem to be updated with the information about the indictments. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20241121221800-Masem-20241121221200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Added some updates. <a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241121224500-Natg_19-20241121221800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd>Strong support on notability - Brazil's equivalent of Trump's indictment(s). No reason this should be treated any different... except maybe on quality, which I've no comment. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241122013100-Masem-20241121221200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>• Support A former world leader is being prosecuted from overthrowing democracy is definitely newsworthy. <a href="/wiki/User:Rager7" title="User:Rager7">Rager7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rager7" title="User talk:Rager7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rager7-20241122220200-Masem-20241121221200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256395271">.mw-parser-output .hidden-archive{box-sizing:border-box;border:1px solid #a2a9b1;width:100%;clear:both;text-align:center;padding:1px;margin:0.2em auto 0;font-size:100%}.mw-parser-output .hat-header{padding:0.25em 1em;line-height:1.5em;text-align:center;background-color:#f2dfce;color:inherit}.mw-parser-output .hat-content{border:solid 1px silver;padding:8px;background-color:#fff4f2;color:inherit;text-align:left}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .hat-header{background-color:#492b13}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .hat-content{background-color:#391c19}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .hat-header{background-color:#492b13}html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .hat-content{background-color:#391c19}}</style> <table class="hidden-archive mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed"> <tbody><tr> <th class="hat-header"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOAP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOAP">WP:SOAP</a> thread — <a href="/wiki/User:Knightoftheswords281" title="User:Knightoftheswords281">Knightof</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knightoftheswords281" title="User talk:Knightoftheswords281">theswords</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Knightoftheswords281-20241122134400-Bolsonaro_indicted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] </th></tr> <tr> <td style="font-style:italic;">The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. </td></tr> <tr> <td class="hat-content"> <dl><dd>Oppose seeing as how Lula got out of prison based on the political whims of a judge and then ran for president again this doesn't really mean anything. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241122015100-Bolsonaro_indicted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOAP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOAP">WP:SOAP</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241122072500-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Lula was sentenced by the <a href="/wiki/Sergio_Moro" title="Sergio Moro">same judge</a> who would serve in the <a href="/wiki/Cabinet_of_Jair_Bolsonaro" title="Cabinet of Jair Bolsonaro">Cabinet of Jair Bolsonaro</a>, if political bias has to be talked about at all. None of this is relevant to whether Bolsonaro's indictment is notable or not; it is and we posted the Lula developments back then as well. Personal judgments of political assesments by editors aside. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241122075600-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> </td></tr></tbody></table> <ul><li>Support Highly noteworthy development in the attempted overthrow of democracy. Will be interesting to see if the matter is actually prosecuted properly and justice served unlike what happened in the US with Trump free to run again despite his attempt to overthrow democracy. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241122041100-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support: Of immense notability, and article, especially this particular event, are well cited. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241122043700-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Former President indicted on serious charges is bigly news. <a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harizotoh9" title="User talk:Harizotoh9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Harizotoh9-20241122052400-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:24, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support: Internationally noteworthy and quality articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Aneirinn" title="User:Aneirinn">Aneirinn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aneirinn" title="User talk:Aneirinn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Aneirinn-20241122064100-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support per Departure. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241122072500-Scu_ba-20241122015100-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Support While this was only the first of Bolsonaro's coup attempts (followed by <a href="/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_Brazilian_election_protests" title="2022–2023 Brazilian election protests">2022–2023 Brazilian election protests</a>, <a href="/wiki/2023_Brazilian_Congress_attack" title="2023 Brazilian Congress attack">2023 Brazilian Congress attack</a>), he is more significantly involved here than the others and likely the only event he is to be charged for. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241122072900-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support - Former major world leader has been indicted in criminal court, due one of the most significant events in recent Brazilian history. Very notable. <a href="/wiki/User:PrecariousWorlds" title="User:PrecariousWorlds">PrecariousWorlds</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrecariousWorlds" title="User talk:PrecariousWorlds">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-PrecariousWorlds-20241122092300-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:23, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support, major political event. <a href="/wiki/User:BilboBeggins" title="User:BilboBeggins">BilboBeggins</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilboBeggins" title="User talk:BilboBeggins">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BilboBeggins-20241122104000-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose. The blurb and the article falsely tell us that the police have indicted Bolsonaro. In fact, the decision to indict lies with prosecutors, who have not yet made that decision. As per the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/world/americas/bolsonaro-coup-brazil-election-charges.html">NYT article</a> cited in the Wikipedia article: "Brazil’s federal police urged prosecutors to charge Mr. Bolsonaro and three dozen others (...) Federal prosecutors have still not decided whether to pursue charges in any of these cases". <a href="/wiki/User:Sandstein" title="User:Sandstein"> Sandstein </a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Sandstein-20241122104700-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose per Sandstein's good point and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SUSPECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SUSPECT">WP:SUSPECT</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241122113900-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support per Gotitbro and WP:SUSPECT. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241122121100-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose/Wait per Sandstein on account of the blurb not being factually accurate. These indictments are likely still forthcoming. I think blurb posting on this topic should wait until that time. <a href="/wiki/User:DarkSide830" title="User:DarkSide830">DarkSide830</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DarkSide830" title="User talk:DarkSide830">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-DarkSide830-20241122162100-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:21, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support. We need to get the wording right per the above, but this is the official report of a long police investigation, which is a major story in and of itself. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241122174800-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support altblurb Prosecutors have clarified that although they will indict, it will take time to proceed to that next stage for logistical reasons: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/bolsonaros-coup-indictment-postponed-by-brazils-top-prosecutor-sources-say-2024-11-22/">see here</a>. However, I think this is ITN now, and so posting now (when coverage is high) is appropriate. It would be different if the prosecutor hadn't yet decided on an indictment: he WILL certainly be indicted, just after the Holidays. As such, I have proposed an altblurb which uses modified language. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241122223000-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support unusual occurrence and we have previously posted similar events concerning heads of state (e.g. jailing of <a href="/wiki/Frank_Bainimarama" title="Frank Bainimarama">Frank Bainimarama</a>). @<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> do we have consensus here? <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241123151200-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose as we post convictions, not indictments, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPCRIME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPCRIME">WP:BLPCRIME</a>. Posting Trump’s indictment was a mistake, so it’s better to not make it once again.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User talk:Kiril Simeonovski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20241123152700-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I tend to agree in principle re: BLPCRIME, but I think for heads of state the indictment itself is notable (for Trump as well as the Netanyahu/Gallant arrest warrants currently posted to the Main Page). <a href="/wiki/User:DecafPotato" title="User:DecafPotato">DecafPotato</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DecafPotato" title="User talk:DecafPotato">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-DecafPotato-20241123225100-Kiril_Simeonovski-20241123152700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <ul><li>Oppose per Kiril Simeonovski <a href="/wiki/User:TheAstorPastor" title="User:TheAstorPastor">The AP </a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheAstorPastor" title="User talk:TheAstorPastor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheAstorPastor-20241124162800-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <ul><li>Support A major political/legal event with international coverage. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ArionStar&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ArionStar (page does not exist)">ArionStar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArionStar" title="User talk:ArionStar">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ArionStar-20241125233400-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:34, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Strongest Possible Oppose We've been down this road with Donald Trump and that was an egregious error. The Federal charges in his case have now disappeared and as of this post the consensus seems to be to ignore it. This is why we post convictions, not accusations. -<a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ad_Orientem-20241126032100-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>We posted when Trump was impeached (knowing full well there would be no removal by the Senate), and as mentioned above, the grand jury findings still exist and new indictments could be raised in the future (just not likely in the next four years). We have also posted the arrest warrants from the ICC for Putin and for Israel/Hamas leaders. Clearly when former leaders of countries are at least charged, in a formal manner consistent with the nation's laws, for major crimes, that seems to be the point to post, even if no actual conviction comes down the road. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241126043000-Ad_Orientem-20241126032100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:30, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>BLP comment <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPCRIME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPCRIME">WP:BLPCRIME/WP:BLPSUSPECT</a> have been mentioned. The policy reads <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style><blockquote class="talkquote">For individuals who are not public figures—that is, individuals not covered by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Public_figures" title="Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons">§ Public figures</a>—editors must seriously consider not including material —in any article—that suggests the person has committed or is accused of having committed a crime, unless a conviction has been secured for that crime.</blockquote> However, Bolsonara is a public figure. Consensus might determine this doesn't belong on ITN, but it's not dictated by this policy.—<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20241126041900-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:19, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a>: That's a very unfortunate section. All living persons with Wikipedia articles are public figures in some way. Otherwise, they would not be covered in reliable sources that justify the existence of their articles. Could you please explain what makes politicians more prominent public figures than artists, scientists or sportspeople?--<a href="/wiki/User:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User talk:Kiril Simeonovski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20241126125900-Bagumba-20241126041900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>WP tends to use the legal definition of <a href="/wiki/Public_figure" title="Public figure">Public figure</a> to determine who is public. It is certainly not the case that any notable person we consider to be a public figure, but generally use that for those that are nearly always going to be covered by media, like politicians, actors, athletes, and top-level businessmen. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241126130400-Kiril_Simeonovski-20241126125900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I'm unsure whether the legal definition is the same everywhere (for instance, <a href="/wiki/Public_figure" title="Public figure">public figure</a> lists only the case in the United States, which may not be true for Brazil or anywhere else). Furthermore, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PUBLICFIGURE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PUBLICFIGURE">WP:PUBLICFIGURE</a> isn't lex specialis that can override <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPCRIME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPCRIME">WP:BLPCRIME</a>, and the examples given under WP:PUBLICFIGURE don't even list a case involving indictments (WP:BLPCRIME should normally be more restrictive than WP:PUBLICFIGURE due to the <a href="/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence" title="Presumption of innocence">presumption of innocence</a>. Otherwise, we risk to make a <a href="/wiki/False_positive" class="mw-redirect" title="False positive">false positive</a>.).--<a href="/wiki/User:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User:Kiril Simeonovski">Kiril Simeonovski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kiril_Simeonovski" title="User talk:Kiril Simeonovski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kiril_Simeonovski-20241126132500-Masem-20241126130400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>To be clear, BLPCRIME is more geared towards protecting the privacy of those that are clearly not public figures (those whom have never been written about until such an event) rather than the allowance that we should cover crimes related to public figures. No matter how you slice it, Bolosanaro is a public figure, and thus the protection that we look for under BLPCRIME simply is not applicable.</dd> <dd>Beyond the scope of BLPCRIME, all other aspects of BLP in general apply: we do have to write with presumption of innocence, we should be accurate to what actually happened here from a legal perspective and not jump to conclusions (that is: I know the original articles on this all said, directly, "indictment", but that was clearly not the best wording). But there's no reason we can expect any attempt to protect Bolosanaro's privacy here via BLPCRIME. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241126134600-Kiril_Simeonovski-20241126132500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-marks">That's a very unfortunate section</q>: Take that up at that policy's talk page. —<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20241126140700-Kiril_Simeonovski-20241126125900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <ul><li>"Indictment" comment I was evaluating whether to post this, but saw <a href="/wiki/User:Sandstein" title="User:Sandstein">Sandstein</a>'s comment above: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-marks">The blurb and the article falsely tell us that the police have indicted Bolsonaro. In fact, the decision to indict lies with prosecutors.</q> Reuters says: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk inline-quote-talk-marks">Brazil's prosecutor general is expected to weigh those two cases along with the police report on the alleged coup plot before bringing any charges against Bolsonaro early next year.</q><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/what-is-state-bolsonaros-legal-trouble-brazil-2024-11-25/">[14]</a> So it seems there's a conflict on whether he's indicted yet or not. For balance, CNN a few days ago had <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/21/americas/brazilian-ex-president-jair-bolsonaro-indicted-over-attempted-coup-plot/index.html">"Brazil’s Bolsonaro and allies indicted in 2022 coup plot probe"</a>. The previous Trump post that's been mentioned <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1159439853">was for an indictment</a>, but this discussion is not necessarily binded by that (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNSIGNIF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNSIGNIF">WP:ITNSIGNIF</a>). If there hasn't been an indictment, <a href="/wiki/2022_Brazilian_coup_plot" title="2022 Brazilian coup plot">2022 Brazilian coup plot</a> needs to be updated to say that he's been accused by the police (or similar), and not use idict. —<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20241126043500-Scu_ba-20241122015100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:35, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>There is also <a href="/wiki/Talk:2022_Brazilian_coup_plot#Indictment" title="Talk:2022 Brazilian coup plot">Talk:2022 Brazilian coup plot § Indictment</a> —<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20241126052400-Bagumba-20241126043500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:24, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Sandstein" title="User:Sandstein">Sandstein</a> This is caused by a translation issue and cultural barrier. The literal definition of "indict" is "to formally accuse of or charge with a serious crime". The police have formally accused Bolsonaro, under Brazil's criminal procedure for the referral of cases. The prosecutor then has a supplementary decision as to how or whether to lay charges in Court. In Portuguese, the same verb - "indiciar" - is used for both of these two "types" of accusations: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.metropoles.com/colunas/paulo-cappelli/bolsonaro-quebra-o-silencio-apos-ser-indiciado-pela-policia-federal">see here</a>. So, when English sources like CNN are translating from Portuguese coverage, they say he was "indicted": technically true, because of the literal definition of the word and how it is used in Brazil. However, it is misleading to the American reader, who usually interpret "indictment" purely legalistically - that is to say, charges have been laid in court by a prosecutor.</dd> <dd>Using the altblurb language of "formally accused by police" is more precise and avoids that misleading impact. IMHO there is a consensus that the story itself is notable enough, so I would recommend going with the alt as a compromise measure. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241126160000-Bagumba-20241126043500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flipandflopped</a>: If the alt blurb is considered accurate, then the article needs to change its contentious use of indict to something about being formally accused by the police.—<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20241126172600-Flipandflopped-20241126160000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Fair point. I have raised the issue on the talk page and will make modifications to the article ASAP after giving folks time to raise disagreements to my interpretation. Hopefully then you or another admin can consider whether or not to post on the merits re: the notability of the event itself. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241126174800-Bagumba-20241126172600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_ICC_arrest_warrants_for_Benjamin_Netanyahu,_Yoav_Gallant,_and_Mohammed_Deif" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_ICC_arrest_warrants_for_Benjamin_Netanyahu,_Yoav_Gallant,_and_Mohammed-November_21-20241121135600">(Posted) ICC arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu, Yoav Gallant, and Mohammed Deif</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: (Posted) ICC arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu, Yoav Gallant, and Mohammed Deif">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine" title="International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine">International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine" title="Talk:International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=International+Criminal+Court+investigation+in+Palestine">tag</a>) Blurb: The <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court" title="International Criminal Court">International Criminal Court</a> issues arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister <a href="/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu" title="Benjamin Netanyahu">Benjamin Netanyahu</a>, former Defense Minister <a href="/wiki/Yoav_Gallant" title="Yoav Gallant">Yoav Gallant</a>, and Hamas leader <a href="/wiki/Mohammed_Deif" title="Mohammed Deif">Mohammed Deif</a> in its <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine" title="International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine">investigation of war crimes in Palestine</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/21/icc-issues-arrest-warrant-for-benjamin-netanyahu-israel">The Guardian</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/11/21/world/israel-netanyahu-hamas-gaza">NYTimes</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Nableezy" title="User:Nableezy">Nableezy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nableezy&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BInternational+Criminal+Court+investigation+in+Palestine%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=International+Criminal+Court+investigation+in+Palestine&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:ARandomName123" title="User:ARandomName123">ARandomName123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ARandomName123" title="User talk:ARandomName123">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ARandomName123&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BInternational+Criminal+Court+investigation+in+Palestine%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=International+Criminal+Court+investigation+in+Palestine&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated</div>Nominator's comments: We previously posted warrants being issued for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/June_2011#[Posted]_ICC_arrest_warrant_for_Gaddafi" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/June 2011">Muammar Gaddafi </a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN_archives/2009/March" title="Wikipedia:ITN archives/2009/March">Omar Bashir</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/March_2023#(Posted)_ICC_arrest_warrant_for_Putin" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/March 2023">Vladimir Putin</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy">nableezy</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20241121135600-(Posted)_ICC_arrest_warrants_for_Benjamin_Netanyahu,_Yoav_Gallant,_and_Mohammed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Support Since the arrest warrants of Putin and others' were posted, I think this should be posted too as it is about a incumbent Prime Minister. <a href="/wiki/User:LiamKorda" title="User:LiamKorda">Liam</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LiamKorda" title="User talk:LiamKorda">Korda</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-LiamKorda-20241121141200-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Strong support on notability, arrest warrants against world leaders have been posted before. Weak oppose on quality, the article isn't updated to where I think it should be to be posted. Besides that, otherwise it's well sourced. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241121141500-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Support This will severely limit the travel options for the wanted persons. <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Grimes2-20241121142000-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support We did post the warrant for Putin, this precedentially follows. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241121145000-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support front page news, so meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNSIGNIF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNSIGNIF">WP:ITNSIGNIF</a>. Would be good to add more to the section of the article about the warrants, but there's about enough to just about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNQUALITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNQUALITY">WP:ITNQUALITY</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Joseph2302" title="User:Joseph2302">Joseph</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">2302</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joseph2302" title="User talk:Joseph2302">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Joseph2302-20241121145400-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Weak support - Support on significance and precedent. I think the quality could be better but not quite to the point where it should stop this from being posted. ✈ <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_gigs" title="User:Mike gigs">mike_gigs</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_gigs" title="User talk:Mike gigs">talk</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/mike_gigs" title="Special:Contributions/mike gigs">contribs</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mike_gigs-20241121145700-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Arrest warrants against world leaders are very rare i think <a href="/wiki/User:Bakhos2010" title="User:Bakhos2010">Bakhos2010</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bakhos2010" title="User talk:Bakhos2010">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bakhos2010-20241121150100-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Strong support as per <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a>. Suggest blurb is in present tense. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123" title="User talk:Martinevans123">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Martinevans123-20241121150200-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support. Important development, rare event, and per ITN precedent. The article is detailed and well-referenced; I find its organisation quite confusing and the update isn't great, but it provides the facts of the case and is in good enough shape to post. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241121151300-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support on notability as there is precedent that an international arrest warrant for an incumbent leader is notable, and on quality per Modest Genius above. <a href="/wiki/User:Vanilla_Wizard" title="User:Vanilla Wizard"> Vanilla </a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vanilla_Wizard" title="User talk:Vanilla Wizard"> Wizard </a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vanilla_Wizard" title="Special:Contributions/Vanilla Wizard">💙</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Vanilla_Wizard-20241121154400-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Comment - an article has been made at <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Israeli_figures" title="International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures">International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures</a>. It's not protected yet, nor is it ITN quality, but it should be made the target. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241121154800-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Absolutely no need for a separate article for the issuing of arrest warrants. It would have been far better to have an expansion of the ICC case. — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241121193100-Departure–-20241121154800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Support per norm. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241121160700-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Comment It would be good if we could get the Hīkoi mō te Tiriti posted now given clear consensus in favour. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241121161200-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Wrong section? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy">nableezy</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20241121161300-AusLondonder-20241121161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Oops yeah, was intending to comment below. For clarity, Support posting this, too. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241121162200-AusLondonder-20241121161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Strong support per nom. Article looks good. --<a href="/wiki/User:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User:TDKR Chicago 101">TDKR Chicago 101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TDKR_Chicago_101" title="User talk:TDKR Chicago 101">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TDKR_Chicago_101-20241121162500-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support the general event being posted on notability. I would prefer the target being the <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Israeli_figures" title="International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures">International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures</a> article though, which I believe has been brought up to a reasonable level of quality by now. <a href="/wiki/User:Liu1126" title="User:Liu1126">Liu1126</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liu1126" title="User talk:Liu1126">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Liu1126-20241121173800-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Posted. I used the main article, since it wasn't really discussed if the sub-article should be used instead, and there's an obvious titling/scope issue with it. I used an image of Netanyahu and an additional use of "Israeli" per the choices used for the Russian ones in 2023. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Posted/March_2023#March_17">[15]</a> These can all be changed if necessary. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241121181000-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>For what's worth, I believe that the article <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Israeli_figures" title="International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures">International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures</a> should be placed, while not replacing the <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_investigation_in_Palestine" title="International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine">International Criminal Court investigation in Palestine</a> article — <a href="/wiki/User:Mignof" title="User:Mignof">Mignof</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mignof" title="User talk:Mignof">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mignof" title="Special:Contributions/Mignof">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Mignof-20241126201100-Patar_knight-20241121181000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Comment. Mohammed Deif is dead. What would his arrest warrant even mean in this case? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/104.171.53.110" title="Special:Contributions/104.171.53.110">104.171.53.110</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:104.171.53.110" title="User talk:104.171.53.110">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-104.171.53.110-20241121193600-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Our article explains that it's because neither Hamas nor independent sources have confirmed his death, so the ICC cannot determine if he is dead and decided to issue in case he is alive. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241121200000-104.171.53.110-20241121193600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>(<a href="/wiki/Help:Edit_conflict" title="Help:Edit conflict">edit conflict</a>) Israel claims to have killed him in July, Hamas claims he's still alive. The ICC has been unable to determine either way, so issued the warrant. Regardless of whether you think either claim is tenable, or if any of these people will be arrested, the blurb is factually correct in stating that the court has issued a warrant. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241121200100-104.171.53.110-20241121193600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a>: would you be amenable to adding the phrase "allegedly killed" or something similar next to Deif's name for clarity (so it'd read "allegedly killed Hamas leader Mohammed Deif")? <a href="/wiki/User:Dantheanimator" title="User:Dantheanimator">Dan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dantheanimator" title="User talk:Dantheanimator">the</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dantheanimator" title="Special:Contributions/Dantheanimator">Animator</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Dantheanimator-20241122074800-Modest_Genius-20241121200100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The claims of Deif's death are weaker than our article suggests. Further phrasing appears unwarranted. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241122091900-Dantheanimator-20241122074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a>, makes sense but I think the claims could still add important context (e.g. the fact that there are legitimate questions regarding his death suggests he is missing/hiding and thus the warrant won't have any immediate effects on him, unlike Bibi & Gallant who have generally been going about their lives). I'm open to other phrasing but I still think it's an important thing to add for context/clarity. Usually also the blurb is supposed to based on the article and the article in this case talks more about the warrant's effects on Israeli officials so I think it's helpful to readers to reflect this dynamic/disequilibrium in impact in the blurb. Open to other ideas though and thanks for the reply, <a href="/wiki/User:Dantheanimator" title="User:Dantheanimator">Dan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dantheanimator" title="User talk:Dantheanimator">the</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dantheanimator" title="Special:Contributions/Dantheanimator">Animator</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Dantheanimator-20241122163700-Gotitbro-20241122091900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I think this is too much detail to get into for a blurb. A warrant was issued and the relevant part of the article explains the ICC's reasoning for issuing the warrant for Deif. If you have reliable sources that discuss the practical effects of the warrants, I would suggest adding to the article. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241122174400-Dantheanimator-20241122163700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Fair enough. I still think adding two words to some effect would be rather helpful but I don't feel too strongly about it so it's alright. Many thanks for the replies! :) <a href="/wiki/User:Dantheanimator" title="User:Dantheanimator">Dan</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dantheanimator" title="User talk:Dantheanimator">the</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Dantheanimator" title="Special:Contributions/Dantheanimator">Animator</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Dantheanimator-20241123043900-Patar_knight-20241122174400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>@<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> Out of curiosity more than anything, if a pic of Netanyahu was originally posted, why does ITN now show the other guy? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241126120200-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I think like joint Nobel Prize announcements, the idea is that each day a different person will have their image. Now I think it's due time for Deif to get his picture, Gallant was on the front page all of yesterday <a href="/wiki/User:QueensanditsCrazy" title="User:QueensanditsCrazy">QueensanditsCrazy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QueensanditsCrazy" title="User talk:QueensanditsCrazy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-QueensanditsCrazy-20241126135200-Serial_Number_54129-20241126120200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Oh, I see he doesn't have an image in his page. Not many photos of him exist apparently, but the article has links that have some pictures. Are these pictures copyrighted or some other thing that means it can't be used in his infobox and thus on the main page? <a href="/wiki/User:QueensanditsCrazy" title="User:QueensanditsCrazy">QueensanditsCrazy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QueensanditsCrazy" title="User talk:QueensanditsCrazy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-QueensanditsCrazy-20241126135300-QueensanditsCrazy-20241126135200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:53, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Typically the admins try to rotate the photos between different topics or people every several days, but that is up to admin discretion, as the ITN box is protected and editable only by administrators. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20241126173500-Serial_Number_54129-20241126120200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd>Comment - Bit late, but I think at this point <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Israeli_figures" title="International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures">International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli figures</a> should be posted, since it is the article that details the news story at hand. It would like linking to <a href="/wiki/United_States_presidential_election" title="United States presidential election">United States presidential election</a> for <a href="/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election" title="2024 United States presidential election">the recent election</a>. @<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> — <a href="/wiki/User:Knightoftheswords281" title="User:Knightoftheswords281">Knightof</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knightoftheswords281" title="User talk:Knightoftheswords281">theswords</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Knightoftheswords281-20241126215100-Nableezy-20241121135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:51, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Closed)_2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Closed)_2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning-November_21-20241121122500">(Closed) 2024 Laos methanol poisoning</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: (Closed) 2024 Laos methanol poisoning">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Consensus to post will not develop. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20241121215300-(Closed)_2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" title="2024 Laos methanol poisoning">2024 Laos methanol poisoning</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" title="Talk:2024 Laos methanol poisoning">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Laos+methanol+poisoning">tag</a>) Blurb: Four tourists are dead and ten others injured from a suspected <a href="/wiki/2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" title="2024 Laos methanol poisoning">methanol poisoning in Laos</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-teen-dies-after-suspected-methanol-poisoning-in-laos-20241121-p5kskc.html">The Age</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/nov/21/laos-methanol-poisoning-deaths-vang-vieng-holly-bowles-bianca-jones-hospitalisation-ntwnfb">Guardian</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:GMH_Melbourne" title="User:GMH Melbourne">GMH Melbourne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GMH_Melbourne" title="User talk:GMH Melbourne">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GMH_Melbourne&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Laos+methanol+poisoning%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Laos+methanol+poisoning&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div> <a href="/wiki/User:GMH_Melbourne" title="User:GMH Melbourne">GMH Melbourne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GMH_Melbourne" title="User talk:GMH Melbourne">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500-(Closed)_2024_Laos_methanol_poisoning" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support Sources ok, size ok. Terrible event. <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Grimes2-20241121124100-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Oppose Terrible event, yes, but there's not a high number of fatalities, and the fact that they are tourists does not make it more notorious or more special.</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20241121125600-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Note that unfortunately the death toll is likely to rise as there are a number of people on life support. <a href="/wiki/User:GMH_Melbourne" title="User:GMH Melbourne">GMH Melbourne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GMH_Melbourne" title="User talk:GMH Melbourne">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GMH_Melbourne-20241121130300-Alsoriano97-20241121125600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose Seems like mostly a small domestic crime issue (if it was an intended crime), and given the number of <a href="/wiki/List_of_methanol_poisoning_incidents" title="List of methanol poisoning incidents">List of methanol poisoning incidents</a>, such events are not uncommon around the world. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241121130700-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose Clearly an isolated domestic crime/food safety incident with limited effect.<a href="/wiki/User:%E5%BB%A3%E4%B9%9D%E7%9B%B4%E9%80%9A%E8%BB%8A" title="User:廣九直通車">廣九直通車</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E5%BB%A3%E4%B9%9D%E7%9B%B4%E9%80%9A%E8%BB%8A" title="User talk:廣九直通車">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-廣九直通車-20241121134400-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Note also, that there are victims in Australia, New Zealand, the US, Denmark, UK, and Laos, with the news being reported by organisations around the world. <a href="/wiki/User:GMH_Melbourne" title="User:GMH Melbourne">GMH Melbourne</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GMH_Melbourne" title="User talk:GMH Melbourne">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-GMH_Melbourne-20241121134800-廣九直通車-20241121134400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd>Oppose Unfortunate event but death toll is low and seems to be more of a local news event. <a href="/wiki/User:LiamKorda" title="User:LiamKorda">Liam</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LiamKorda" title="User talk:LiamKorda">Korda</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-LiamKorda-20241121141300-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Oppose on notability. This seems to be an incident of food poisoning the likes of which we've seen numerous times and are likely to see again. Not nearly as widespread or otherwise impactful as a contamination event should be to get posted; this seems to be restricted to a single hotel in Vang Vieng. Weak oppose on quality at the moment. Also, this nomination may be stale as the fatalities happened on 13 November, and this is likely to roll off the news cycle and ITN as a whole before notability gets demonstrated and quality improves. The oldest blurb is <a href="/wiki/Justin_Welby" title="Justin Welby">Justin Welby</a>'s resignation from 12 November. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241121142100-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose. Tragic event, but accidents that cause four fatalities are sadly quite common. Even methanol poisoning isn't that unusual, see <a href="/wiki/List_of_methanol_poisoning_incidents" title="List of methanol poisoning incidents">list of methanol poisoning incidents</a> - and those are just the incidents that received media coverage and editor attention. The nationality of the victims has attracted media attention, but shouldn't affect our judgement of significance. I see no reason to treat this any differently than a traffic collision that caused four deaths, which would never be an ITN blurb. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241121152100-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Oppose routine accident/crime. not ITN worthy despite the tragedy. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241121160600-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose The page <a href="/wiki/List_of_methanol_poisoning_incidents" title="List of methanol poisoning incidents">List of methanol poisoning incidents</a> shows that moonshine deaths are far from unusual in the developing world. There were 65 in one batch in India just this June <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Tamil_Nadu_alcohol_poisoning">[16]</a>. News websites and TV have an odd habit of exaggerating the attention they give to events when their own citizens die in incidents abroad. For example, this Guardian piece <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/24/british-woman-among-three-dead-as-south-of-france-hit-by-severe-flooding">"British woman among three dead as south of France hit by severe flooding"</a>; as if British news would report on three people dying in a French flood in any other way. We shouldn't be copying that kind of journalism. It kind of reminds me of this <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNVj59B_sLE">[17]</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Unknown_Temptation&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Unknown Temptation (page does not exist)">Unknown Temptation</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unknown_Temptation" title="User talk:Unknown Temptation">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Unknown_Temptation-20241121192500-GMH_Melbourne-20241121122500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Ironically that Guardian article is from <a href="/wiki/Agence_France-Presse" title="Agence France-Presse">Agence France-Presse</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241121193000-Unknown_Temptation-20241121192500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. 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title="Cruise missile">cruise missiles</a> are launched into <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russian</a> territory by <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a> for the first time, following approval by the <a href="/wiki/Starmer_ministry" title="Starmer ministry">Starmer cabinet</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/nov/20/russia-ukraine-war-live-biden-us-weapons-missiles-putin-nuclear?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with%3Ablock-673dfb778f08b8d1c90a6954#block-673dfb778f08b8d1c90a6954">(The Guardian)</a></li></ul></li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States" title="Federal government of the United States">U.S.</a>, <a href="/wiki/Government_of_Italy" title="Government of Italy">Italian</a>, <a href="/wiki/Government_of_Greece" title="Government of Greece">Greek</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Government_of_Spain" title="Government of Spain">Spanish governments</a> temporarily close their <a href="/wiki/Diplomatic_mission" title="Diplomatic mission">embassies</a> in <a href="/wiki/Kyiv" title="Kyiv">Kyiv</a>, Ukraine, following threats of a "significant air attack" from <a href="/wiki/Russian_Armed_Forces" title="Russian Armed Forces">Russia</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/nov/20/u-allies-shutter-embassies-ukraine-following-threa/">(The Washington Times)</a></li> <li>The embassies of <a href="/wiki/Kazakhstan" title="Kazakhstan">Kazakhstan</a> and <a href="/wiki/Kyrgyzstan" title="Kyrgyzstan">Kyrgyzstan</a> urge their citizens to leave areas near Ukrainian combat zones or to leave Ukraine altogether amid an escalating risk of Russian retaliatory attacks. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://timesca.com/war-in-ukraine-kazakhstan-kyrgyzstan-tell-citizens-to-step-up-safety/">(The Times of Central Asia)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Mali_War" title="Mali War">Mali War</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Fall_of_Timbuktu" title="Fall of Timbuktu">Fall of Timbuktu</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court" title="International Criminal Court">International Criminal Court</a> sentences <a href="/wiki/Mali" title="Mali">Malian</a> <a href="/wiki/Islamist_insurgency_in_the_Sahel" title="Islamist insurgency in the Sahel">Islamist</a> militant and <a href="/wiki/Ansar_Dine" title="Ansar Dine">Ansar Dine</a> member <a href="/wiki/Al-Hassan_Ag_Abdoul_Aziz" title="Al-Hassan Ag Abdoul Aziz">al-Hassan Ag Abdoul Aziz</a> to 10 years in prison on charges of <a href="/wiki/War_crime" title="War crime">war crimes</a> and <a href="/wiki/Crimes_against_humanity" title="Crimes against humanity">crimes against humanity</a> committed in 2012 and 2013 in <a href="/wiki/Timbuktu" title="Timbuktu">Timbuktu</a>, Mali. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/20/icc-sentences-al-hassan-ag-abdoul-aziz-to-10-years-over-mali-war-crimes">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Sudanese_civil_war_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Sudanese civil war (2023–present)">Sudanese civil war</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Battle_of_Khartoum_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Battle of Khartoum (2023–present)">Battle of Khartoum</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Sudanese_Armed_Forces" title="Sudanese Armed Forces">Sudanese Armed Forces</a> intensify their offensive in the <a href="/wiki/Khartoum" title="Khartoum">Khartoum</a> capital region, particularly in <a href="/wiki/Khartoum_North" title="Khartoum North">Khartoum North</a> where the battle has rapidly escalated. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://sudantribune.com/article293602/">(Sudan Tribune)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Syrian_civil_war" title="Syrian civil war">Syrian civil war</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Israel%27s_role_in_the_Syrian_civil_war" class="mw-redirect" title="Israel's role in the Syrian civil war">Israel's role in the Syrian civil war</a> <ul><li>Thirty-six people are killed and more than 50 others are injured in <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israeli</a> <a href="/wiki/Airstrike" title="Airstrike">airstrikes</a> in <a href="/wiki/Palmyra" title="Palmyra">Palmyra</a>, <a href="/wiki/Syria" title="Syria">Syria</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-attacks-syrias-palmyra-syrian-state-news-agency-says-2024-11-20/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> Business and economy <ul><li><a href="/wiki/German_economic_crisis_(2022%E2%80%93present)" title="German economic crisis (2022–present)">German economic crisis</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/U.S." class="mw-redirect" title="U.S.">American</a> <a href="/wiki/Automotive_industry" title="Automotive industry">automaker</a> <a href="/wiki/Ford_Motor_Company" title="Ford Motor Company">Ford</a> announces that it will cut 4,000 jobs in <a href="/wiki/European_Union" title="European Union">Europe</a>, including 2,900 in <a href="/wiki/Germany" title="Germany">Germany</a>, citing economic instability and conflicts with <a href="/wiki/Environmental_law" title="Environmental law">environmental regulations</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.newsweek.com/ford-european-job-cuts-eletric-vehicle-market-1989024">(Newsweek)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Disasters and accidents <ul><li><a href="/wiki/November_2024_Northeast_Pacific_bomb_cyclone" title="November 2024 Northeast Pacific bomb cyclone">November 2024 Northeast Pacific bomb cyclone</a> <ul><li>Two people are killed and more than 570,000 people are <a href="/wiki/Power_outage" title="Power outage">without power</a> when a <a href="/wiki/Explosive_cyclogenesis" title="Explosive cyclogenesis">bomb cyclone</a> makes landfall over the <a href="/wiki/West_Coast_of_the_United_States" title="West Coast of the United States">West Coast</a> of the <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> and <a href="/wiki/British_Columbia" title="British Columbia">British Columbia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Canada" title="Canada">Canada</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/20/weather/bomb-cylone-west-coast-washington-climate/index.html">(CNN)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nbcnews.com/weather/winter-weather/bomb-cyclone-pacific-northwest-rcna180941">(NBC News)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Baltic_Sea_submarine_cable_disruptions" title="2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions">2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions</a> <ul><li>The <a href="/wiki/Government_of_Russia" title="Government of Russia">Russian government</a> denies accusations made by European governments of their involvement in sabotaging two <a href="/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable" title="Submarine communications cable">submarine telecommunications cables</a> in the <a href="/wiki/Baltic_Sea" title="Baltic Sea">Baltic Sea</a> as a means of <a href="/wiki/Hybrid_warfare" title="Hybrid warfare">hybrid warfare</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/russia-denies-cutting-baltic-sea-cables-as-tensions-rise/a-70832595">(DW)</a></li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/Royal_Danish_Navy" title="Royal Danish Navy">Royal Danish Navy</a> boards the <a href="/wiki/China" title="China">Chinese</a> <a href="/wiki/Cargo_ship" title="Cargo ship">cargo ship</a> Yi Peng 3 in the <a href="/wiki/Baltic_Sea" title="Baltic Sea">Baltic Sea</a> after the ship is suspected to be involved in the <a href="/wiki/Sabotage" title="Sabotage">sabotage</a> of the submarine cables. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://eadaily.com/en/news/2024/11/20/the-danish-navy-boarded-a-chinese-cargo-ship-who-broke-the-cables-at-the-bottom-of-the-baltic-sea">(EurAsia Daily)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Indonesia" title="Capital punishment in Indonesia">Capital punishment in Indonesia</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/President_of_the_Philippines" title="President of the Philippines">Philippine President</a> <a href="/wiki/Bongbong_Marcos" title="Bongbong Marcos">Bongbong Marcos</a> confirms the return of <a href="/wiki/Mary_Jane_Veloso" title="Mary Jane Veloso">Mary Jane Veloso</a> to the <a href="/wiki/Philippines" title="Philippines">Philippines</a> following 14 years on <a href="/wiki/Death_row" title="Death row">death row</a> in <a href="/wiki/Indonesia" title="Indonesia">Indonesia</a>, after the <a href="/wiki/Government_of_Indonesia" title="Government of Indonesia">Indonesian government</a> implemented a policy for the <a href="/wiki/Repatriation" title="Repatriation">repatriation</a> of foreign prisoners. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3287274/indonesia-agrees-return-filipino-death-row-inmate-mary-jane-veloso-philippines">(South China Morning Post)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/India" title="India">Indian</a> billionaire and <a href="/wiki/Adani_Group" title="Adani Group">Adani Group</a> chairman <a href="/wiki/Gautam_Adani" title="Gautam Adani">Gautam Adani</a> is indicted in the <a href="/wiki/U.S." class="mw-redirect" title="U.S.">U.S.</a> for his role in an alleged multi-billion dollar <a href="/wiki/Bribery" title="Bribery">bribery</a> and <a href="/wiki/Fraud" title="Fraud">fraud</a> scheme where he and seven others paid <a href="/wiki/Government_of_India" title="Government of India">Indian government</a> officials <a href="/wiki/US$" class="mw-redirect" title="US$">US$</a>265 million to obtain contracts for <a href="/wiki/Adani_Green_Energy" title="Adani Green Energy">Adani Green Energy</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.asiaone.com/world/billionaire-gautam-adani-indias-adani-group-charged-us-bribery-fraud">(AsiaOne)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-20/us-prosecutors-indict-gautam-adani-on-bribery-charges">(Bloomberg)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/New_Zealand" title="New Zealand">New Zealand</a> designates <a href="/wiki/Yemen" title="Yemen">Yemen</a>'s <a href="/wiki/Houthi_movement" title="Houthi movement">Houthi movement</a> and <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a>'s <a href="/wiki/Hezbollah" title="Hezbollah">Hezbollah</a> as <a href="/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups" title="List of designated terrorist groups">terrorist groups</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-zealand-designates-houthis-and-entirety-of-hezbollah-as-terror-organizations/">(The Times of Israel)</a></li></ul> Politics and elections <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_United_Kingdom_farmers%27_protests" class="mw-redirect" title="2024 United Kingdom farmers' protests">2024 United Kingdom farmers' protests</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Deputy_Prime_Minister_of_the_United_Kingdom" title="Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom">Deputy Prime Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Angela_Rayner" title="Angela Rayner">Angela Rayner</a> dismisses concerns brought on by protests in <a href="/wiki/London" title="London">London</a> from <a href="/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_United_Kingdom" title="Agriculture in the United Kingdom">United Kingdom farmers</a> against new agricultural inheritance taxation policies as "<a href="/wiki/Fearmongering" title="Fearmongering">scaremongering</a>". <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://news.sky.com/story/trump-wins-uk-reaction-starmer-labour-badenoch-tories-politics-live-12593360">(Sky News)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Mali_War" title="Mali War">Mali War</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Mali" title="Mali">Malian</a> <a href="/wiki/Military_junta" title="Military junta">junta</a> chief <a href="/wiki/Assimi_Go%C3%AFta" title="Assimi Goïta">Assimi Goïta</a> dismisses <a href="/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Mali" class="mw-redirect" title="Prime Minister of Mali">Prime Minister</a> <a href="/wiki/Choguel_Kokalla_Ma%C3%AFga" title="Choguel Kokalla Maïga">Choguel Kokalla Maïga</a> for criticizing the junta government's decision to indefinitely postpone a return to civilian rule. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/mali-junta-chief-sacks-prime-minister/a-70837908">(DW)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Protests_against_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Protests against the Russian invasion of Ukraine">Protests against the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li>Around 1,671 <a href="/wiki/Anti-war_movement" title="Anti-war movement">anti-war</a> protesters in <a href="/wiki/Belarus" title="Belarus">Belarus</a> are arrested for showing solidarity with <a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a> as part of a crackdown on <a href="/wiki/Belarusian_opposition" title="Belarusian opposition">opposition</a> under <a href="/wiki/President_of_Belarus" title="President of Belarus">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Alexander_Lukashenko" title="Alexander Lukashenko">Alexander Lukashenko</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/belarus-lukashenko-ukraine-war-russia-crackdown-2d517139f969c07210faa9d1f2d2c99b">(AP)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Iraq" title="Iraq">Iraq</a> imposes a two-day nationwide <a href="/wiki/Curfew" title="Curfew">curfew</a> as it conducts its first national <a href="/wiki/Census" title="Census">census</a> since 1987. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/20/iraq-conducts-first-national-census-in-nearly-40-years">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul> Science and technology <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Discoveries_of_exoplanets" title="Discoveries of exoplanets">Discoveries of exoplanets</a> <ul><li>In a study published by the <a href="/wiki/Nature_(journal)" title="Nature (journal)">Nature</a> journal, astronomers announce the discovery of <a href="/wiki/IRAS_04125%2B2902_b" title="IRAS 04125+2902 b">IRAS 04125+2902 b</a>, a newborn <a href="/wiki/Exoplanet" title="Exoplanet">exoplanet</a>. The discovery was made by Madyson Barber, a graduate student at the <a href="/wiki/University_of_North_Carolina_at_Chapel_Hill" title="University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill">University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08123-3">(Nature)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/grad-study-discovers-planet-orbiting-nearby-star-astronomers/story?id=116006890">(ABC News)</a></li></ul></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Ursula_Haverbeck" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Ursula_Haverbeck-November_20-20241122101100">RD: Ursula Haverbeck</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: RD: Ursula Haverbeck">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Ursula_Haverbeck" title="Ursula Haverbeck">Ursula Haverbeck</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Ursula_Haverbeck" title="Talk:Ursula Haverbeck">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ursula_Haverbeck&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ursula_Haverbeck&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Ursula+Haverbeck">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/germany-holocaust-denial-ursula-haverbeck-dead-461e77b20a5453eb40973ab11de897e9">AP</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/germany-inveterate-holocaust-denier-haverbeck-dies-at-96/a-70840940">DW</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jta.org/2024/11/22/global/ursula-haverbeck-infamous-german-holocaust-denier-known-as-nazi-grandma-dies-at-96">JTA</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Count_Iblis" title="User:Count Iblis">Count Iblis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Count_Iblis" title="User talk:Count Iblis">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Count_Iblis&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BUrsula+Haverbeck%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Ursula+Haverbeck&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TheHippo0&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TheHippo0 (page does not exist)">TheHippo0</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHippo0&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:TheHippo0 (page does not exist)">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHippo0&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BUrsula+Haverbeck%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Ursula+Haverbeck&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div> <a href="/wiki/User:Count_Iblis" title="User:Count Iblis">Count Iblis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Count_Iblis" title="User talk:Count Iblis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Count_Iblis-20241122101100-RD:_Ursula_Haverbeck" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Comment Its difficult to find sources for the statements of Haverbeck, because Holocaust denial is illegal in several countries. Impossible to post in RD. <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Grimes2-20241123150600-Count_Iblis-20241122101100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_RD:_John_Prescott" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_RD:_John_Prescott-November_20-20241121074800">(Posted) RD: John Prescott</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: (Posted) RD: John Prescott">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/John_Prescott" title="John Prescott">John Prescott</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:John_Prescott" title="Talk:John Prescott">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Prescott&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:John_Prescott&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=John+Prescott">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ce9gp7eke44t">BBC</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Amakuru&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BJohn+Prescott%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=John+Prescott&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Former deputy PM of the UK. A few additional sources needed but it's not in terrible shape. — <a href="/wiki/User:Amakuru" title="User:Amakuru">Amakuru</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amakuru" title="User talk:Amakuru">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Amakuru-20241121074800-(Posted)_RD:_John_Prescott" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support: Lead paragraph has a citation needed flag, otherwise article is in overall good quality. <a href="/wiki/User:Tofusaurus" title="User:Tofusaurus">Tofusaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tofusaurus" title="User talk:Tofusaurus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Tofusaurus-20241121125100-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Slow day, huh? <s>Weak oppose - updated for the death but has a few CN tags - there's another in the article's body on a negative claim about Prescott that really should be sourced or removed. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241121153600-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a></s>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Support I've cleaned up the tags and added a few extra cites. Well written and sourced now for the man they called "Two Jags". <a href="/wiki/User:The_C_of_E" title="User:The C of E">The C of E God Save the King!</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_C_of_E" title="User talk:The C of E">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_C_of_E-20241121155100-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Weak support. The article is extensive and has a lot of citations, but it's very dry prose and hardly a riveting read. There are classic <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROSELINE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROSELINE">WP:PROSELINE</a> problems, a lack of images, and it often (particularly in the 'life after parliament section) feels like a random collection of factoids rather than a coherent biography. Still, those are stylistic issues that don't actually violate our criteria. Could do better, but good enough to post. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241121193400-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support. In good enough enough shape, despite stylistic concerns. - <a href="/wiki/User:SchroCat" title="User:SchroCat">SchroCat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SchroCat" title="User talk:SchroCat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-SchroCat-20241121194200-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Support The article is good enough, except the one yellow tag. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241122000300-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support article isn't perfect but I think it is good enough. David Palmer//<a href="/wiki/User:Cloventt" title="User:Cloventt">cloventt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cloventt" title="User talk:Cloventt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Cloventt-20241122004300-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:43, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li><s>Oppose I've added a few more CN TAGS because there are numerous unsourced lines. The article is not perfect, but it should be close. It is not ready to be posted. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20241122130400-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a></s>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><ul><li>Support There is still a CN TAG to be fixed, but it does not prevent from being posted. Avanti. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20241122140100-Alsoriano97-20241122130400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></dd></dl></li> <li>Oppose till [citation needed] are <s>not</s> fixed. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241122132500-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support, per <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">Alsoriano97</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a>, who are now glad that they too can offer their fulsome support for this {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cn" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cn">cn</a>}}-less article. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241122134600-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Marking this as ready and changing my vote per above. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241122134900-Serial_Number_54129-20241122134600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> looks to be ready. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241123151400-Departure–-20241122134900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Posted—<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20241123160900-Amakuru-20241121074800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="November_19" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_19-20241119055800">November 19</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: November 19">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256386598"> <div style="margin-left:0"> <table class="mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed" style="color:inherit; background: transparent; text-align: left; border: 1px solid Silver; margin: 0.2em auto auto; width:100%; clear: both; padding: 1px;"> <tbody><tr> <th class="cot-header-other" style="; font-size:87%; padding:0.2em 0.3em; text-align:center;"><div style="font-size:115%;margin:0 4em"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Current_events/2024_November_19" title="Portal:Current events/2024 November 19">Portal:Current events/2024 November 19</a></div> </th></tr> <tr> <td style="color:inherit; border: solid 1px Silver; padding: 0.6em; background: var(--background-color-base, #fff);"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248507241"><div class="current-events"> <div role="region" aria-label="November 19" id="2024_November_19" class="current-events-main vevent"> <div class="current-events-heading plainlinks"> <div class="current-events-title" role="heading">November 19, 2024 (2024-11-19) (Tuesday) </div> <ul class="current-events-navbar editlink noprint"><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_19&action=edit&editintro=Portal:Current_events/Edit_instructions">edit</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_19&action=history">history</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_November_19&action=watch">watch</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="current-events-content description"> Armed conflicts and attacks <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Russian invasion of Ukraine">Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/List_of_military_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War" title="List of military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War">Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/United_States_and_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine">United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/President_of_the_United_States" title="President of the United States">U.S. President</a> <a href="/wiki/Joe_Biden" title="Joe Biden">Joe Biden</a> approves of sending non-persistent <a href="/wiki/Anti-personnel_mine" title="Anti-personnel mine">anti-personnel mines</a> to Ukraine, with Ukraine committing to not use them in areas with civilians. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/20/ukraine-to-get-us-land-mines-for-use-against-russian-forces-reports">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/United_Kingdom" title="United Kingdom">United Kingdom</a> and <a href="/wiki/France" title="France">France</a> both prepare new military packages containing <a href="/wiki/Storm_Shadow" title="Storm Shadow">long-range missiles</a> to send to Ukraine following President Biden's decision to allow deep strikes into Russian territory using <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">American</a> weapons. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.newsweek.com/nato-ukraine-missiles-joe-biden-1988037?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1732016216">(Newsweek)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Attacks_in_Russia_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine">Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Ukraine" title="Ukraine">Ukraine</a> launches <a href="/wiki/ATACMS" title="ATACMS">ATACMS</a> <a href="/wiki/Ballistic_missile" title="Ballistic missile">ballistic missiles</a> at targets in <a href="/wiki/Bryansk_Oblast" title="Bryansk Oblast">Bryansk Oblast</a>, <a href="/wiki/Russia" title="Russia">Russia</a>, according to the <a href="/wiki/Ministry_of_Defence_(Russia)" title="Ministry of Defence (Russia)">Russian Defence Ministry</a>. It is the first time that Ukraine has used the <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">American</a>-supplied missiles to strike targets inside Russia. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0mzjm7knw7o">(BBC News)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Nuclear_risk_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine" title="Nuclear risk during the Russian invasion of Ukraine">Nuclear risk during the Russian invasion of Ukraine</a>, <a href="/wiki/Russia_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction" title="Russia and weapons of mass destruction">Russia and weapons of mass destruction</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/President_of_Russia" title="President of Russia">Russian President</a> <a href="/wiki/Vladimir_Putin" title="Vladimir Putin">Vladimir Putin</a> signs a <a href="/wiki/Decree_of_the_President_of_Russia" title="Decree of the President of Russia">decree</a> that allows Russia to use <a href="/wiki/Nuclear_weapon" title="Nuclear weapon">nuclear weapons</a> in response to <a href="/wiki/Conventional_weapon" title="Conventional weapon">conventional</a> attacks by a non-nuclear state supported by a <a href="/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons" title="List of states with nuclear weapons">nuclear power</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-issues-warning-us-with-new-nuclear-doctrine-2024-11-19/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hezbollah_conflict_(2023%E2%80%93present)" title="Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)">Israel–Hezbollah conflict</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Israeli_invasion_of_Lebanon" title="2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon">2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon</a> <ul><li>Three <a href="/wiki/Lebanese_Armed_Forces" title="Lebanese Armed Forces">Lebanese soldiers</a> are killed and 17 other people are injured in an <a href="/wiki/Israel" title="Israel">Israeli</a> airstrike in <a href="/wiki/Sarafand,_Lebanon" title="Sarafand, Lebanon">Sarafand</a>, <a href="/wiki/Lebanon" title="Lebanon">Lebanon</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/20/israeli-attack-kills-three-more-lebanese-soldiers-as-death-toll-passes-forty">(Al Jazeera)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/beirut-says-3-lebanese-soldiers-killed-in-israeli-airstrike-in-south/">(Times of Israel)</a></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Haitian_crisis_(2018%E2%80%93present)" title="Haitian crisis (2018–present)">Haitian crisis</a> <ul><li>Twenty-eight suspected gang members are killed by police and residents in <a href="/wiki/P%C3%A9tion-Ville" title="Pétion-Ville">Pétion-Ville</a>, <a href="/wiki/Port-au-Prince" title="Port-au-Prince">Port-au-Prince</a>, <a href="/wiki/Haiti" title="Haiti">Haiti</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/19/haitian-authorities-say-28-alleged-gang-members-killed-by-police-residents">(Al Jazeera)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jamaicaobserver.com/2024/11/20/haiti-police-civilians-kill-28-gang-members-say-authorities/">(The Jamaica Observer)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Doctors_Without_Borders" class="mw-redirect" title="Doctors Without Borders">Doctors Without Borders</a> announces it will suspend operations in Port-au-Prince indefinitely following <a href="/wiki/Rape_threat" title="Rape threat">rape</a> and <a href="/wiki/Death_threat" title="Death threat">death threats</a> from <a href="/wiki/Haitian_National_Police" title="Haitian National Police">Haitian police</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/haiti-doctors-without-borders-halts-work-in-port-au-prince/a-70826801">(DW)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Insurgency_in_Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a> <ul><li>Twelve <a href="/wiki/Pakistan_Army" title="Pakistan Army">soldiers</a> are killed and others are wounded after a <a href="/wiki/Suicide_attack" title="Suicide attack">suicide</a> <a href="/wiki/Car_bomb" title="Car bomb">car bombing</a> targeting a security post in <a href="/wiki/Bannu" title="Bannu">Bannu</a>, <a href="/wiki/Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa" title="Khyber Pakhtunkhwa">Khyber Pakhtunkhwa</a>, <a href="/wiki/Pakistan" title="Pakistan">Pakistan</a>. Six <a href="/wiki/Hafiz_Gul_Bahadur_Group" title="Hafiz Gul Bahadur Group">Hafiz Gul Bahadur Group</a> gunmen are killed in the ensuing <a href="/wiki/Shootout" title="Shootout">shootout</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://apnews.com/article/pakistan-suicide-bombing-security-forces-killed-f17f4521de40a27e3ebf76ccf15d58ec">(AP)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Business and economy <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_Boeing_machinists_strike" title="2024 Boeing machinists strike">2024 Boeing machinists strike</a> <ul><li>American <a href="/wiki/Aerospace_manufacturer" title="Aerospace manufacturer">aerospace company</a> <a href="/wiki/Boeing" title="Boeing">Boeing</a> announces it will <a href="/wiki/Layoff" title="Layoff">layoff</a> 17,000 workers by the end of 2024, 10% of its global workforce, due to financial difficulties following the <a href="/wiki/2024_Boeing_machinists_strike" title="2024 Boeing machinists strike">machinists strike</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.assemblymag.com/articles/98910-boeing-to-lay-off-17-000-workers-amid-financial-struggles">(Assembly Magazine)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wafb.com/2024/11/20/boeing-cut-nearly-20000-employees-before-christmas/">(WAFB9)</a></li></ul></li></ul> International relations <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2024_G20_Rio_de_Janeiro_summit" title="2024 G20 Rio de Janeiro summit">2024 G20 Rio de Janeiro summit</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/South_Africa" title="South Africa">South Africa</a> becomes the first country from <a href="/wiki/Africa" title="Africa">Africa</a> to chair the <a href="/wiki/G20" title="G20">G20</a> after receiving the leadership position during the second day of the summit in <a href="/wiki/Rio_de_Janeiro" title="Rio de Janeiro">Rio de Janeiro</a>, <a href="/wiki/Brazil" title="Brazil">Brazil</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://en.tempo.co/read/1943387/south-africa-becomes-first-african-country-to-lead-g20">(Tempo)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Law and crime <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2020_Hong_Kong_pro-democracy_primaries" title="2020 Hong Kong pro-democracy primaries">2020 Hong Kong pro-democracy primaries</a>, <a href="/wiki/Hong_Kong_47" title="Hong Kong 47">Hong Kong 47</a> <ul><li>Forty-five <a href="/wiki/Pro-democracy_camp" class="mw-redirect" title="Pro-democracy camp">pro-democracy</a> activists in <a href="/wiki/Hong_Kong" title="Hong Kong">Hong Kong</a> are sentenced to prison terms of between four and 10 years over an unofficial primary held in 2020. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/hundreds-queue-sentencing-47-hong-kong-democrats-2024-11-19/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2022%E2%80%932023_Brazilian_election_protests" title="2022–2023 Brazilian election protests">2022–2023 Brazilian election protests</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Federal_Police_of_Brazil" title="Federal Police of Brazil">Brazilian Federal Police</a> arrest five people, including four <a href="/wiki/G20" title="G20">G20</a> security guards, for their alleged involvement in a plot to <a href="/wiki/Assassinate" class="mw-redirect" title="Assassinate">assassinate</a> <a href="/wiki/President_of_Brazil" title="President of Brazil">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Lula_da_Silva" class="mw-redirect" title="Lula da Silva">Lula da Silva</a> and <a href="/wiki/Vice_President_of_Brazil" title="Vice President of Brazil">Vice President</a> <a href="/wiki/Geraldo_Alckmin" title="Geraldo Alckmin">Geraldo Alckmin</a> following the <a href="/wiki/2022_Brazilian_general_election" title="2022 Brazilian general election">general election</a> in 2022. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/19/brazil-arrests-five-suspects-in-alleged-lula-assassination-plot">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li> <li>The <a href="/wiki/Tunisian_Armed_Forces#Navy" title="Tunisian Armed Forces">Tunisian coast guard</a> announces that on the night of November 8, a patrol boat rammed and sank a boat carrying migrants on its coasts, killing 53 people. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.fanpage.it/politica/la-guardia-costiera-tunisina-sperona-e-uccide-52-migranti-mio-cugino-musa-e-uno-dei-minori-annegati-quella-notte/">(Fanpage)</a></li></ul> Politics and elections <ul><li><a href="/wiki/2023%E2%80%932024_Georgian_protests" title="2023–2024 Georgian protests">2023–2024 Georgian protests</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_Georgia_(country)" title="Law enforcement in Georgia (country)">Georgian police</a> reportedly break up <a href="/wiki/Occupy_movement" title="Occupy movement">tent camps</a> while beating and detaining protesters in <a href="/wiki/Tbilisi" title="Tbilisi">Tbilisi</a>, <a href="/wiki/Georgia_(country)" title="Georgia (country)">Georgia</a>, demonstrating against the allegedly <a href="/wiki/Electoral_fraud" title="Electoral fraud">rigged</a> <a href="/wiki/2024_Georgian_parliamentary_election" title="2024 Georgian parliamentary election">parliamentary election</a> in October. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/georgia-police-break-up-election-protest-camp/a-70817930">(DW)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Abkhazian_protests" title="2024 Abkhazian protests">2024 Abkhazian protests</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Abkhazia" title="Abkhazia">Abkhazian</a> <a href="/wiki/President_of_Abkhazia" title="President of Abkhazia">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Aslan_Bzhania" title="Aslan Bzhania">Aslan Bzhania</a> <a href="/wiki/Resigns" class="mw-redirect" title="Resigns">resigns</a> following negotiations with the opposition and is succeeded by <a href="/wiki/Vice_President_of_Abkhazia" title="Vice President of Abkhazia">Vice President</a> <a href="/wiki/Badra_Gunba" title="Badra Gunba">Badra Gunba</a> as <a href="/wiki/Acting_(law)" title="Acting (law)">acting</a> president. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://abkhazworld.com/aw/current-affairs/2878-president-aslan-bzhania-agrees-to-resign-after-eight-hour-negotiations">(Abkhaz World)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/leader-breakaway-georgian-region-resigns-russias-interfax-reports-2024-11-18/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_United_Kingdom_farmers%27_protests" class="mw-redirect" title="2024 United Kingdom farmers' protests">2024 United Kingdom farmers' protests</a> <ul><li>Thousands of <a href="/wiki/British_people" title="British people">British</a> <a href="/wiki/Farmer" title="Farmer">farmers</a> protest at the <a href="/wiki/Houses_of_Parliament" class="mw-redirect" title="Houses of Parliament">Houses of Parliament</a> in <a href="/wiki/London" title="London">London</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_Kingdom" title="United Kingdom">United Kingdom</a>, against a new <a href="/wiki/Inheritance_tax" title="Inheritance tax">inheritance tax</a> on <a href="/wiki/Land_ownership" class="mw-redirect" title="Land ownership">land ownership</a> that includes <a href="/wiki/Farm" title="Farm">farms</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/19/british-farmers-protest-against-tractor-tax-on-inheritance">(Al Jazeera)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czj71zyy934o">(BBC News)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/2024_Venezuelan_presidential_election" title="2024 Venezuelan presidential election">2024 Venezuelan presidential election</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Venezuela_relations" title="United States–Venezuela relations">United States–Venezuela relations</a> <ul><li>The United States announces it recognizes <a href="/wiki/Venezuela" title="Venezuela">Venezuelan</a> <a href="/wiki/Venezuelan_opposition" title="Venezuelan opposition">opposition leader</a> <a href="/wiki/Edmundo_Gonz%C3%A1lez" title="Edmundo González">Edmundo González</a> as the <a href="/wiki/President_of_Venezuela" title="President of Venezuela">President-elect</a> following the presidential election in July. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/19/us-recognises-venezuelan-opposition-leader-gonzalez-as-president-elect">(Al Jazeera)</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</a> <ul><li>Over 40,000 people gather in front of the <a href="/wiki/New_Zealand" title="New Zealand">New Zealand</a> <a href="/wiki/Parliament_House,_Wellington" title="Parliament House, Wellington">Parliament House</a> in <a href="/wiki/Wellington" title="Wellington">Wellington</a> to protest against the <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">Treaty Principles Bill</a> that would change <a href="/wiki/M%C4%81ori_people" title="Māori people">Māori people</a>'s rights, making it one of the largest protests in the country. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dw.com/en/new-zealand-42000-demonstrate-support-for-maori-rights/a-70816454">(DW)</a></li></ul></li></ul> Science and technology <ul><li><a href="/wiki/SpaceX" title="SpaceX">SpaceX</a> <a href="/wiki/Starship_flight_test_6" title="Starship flight test 6">launches</a> their sixth <a href="/wiki/SpaceX_Starship" title="SpaceX Starship">Starship</a> rocket at the <a href="/wiki/Boca_Chica_(Texas)" title="Boca Chica (Texas)">Boca Chica</a> <a href="/wiki/SpaceX_Starbase" title="SpaceX Starbase">launch pad</a> in <a href="/wiki/Brownsville,_Texas" title="Brownsville, Texas">Brownsville</a>, <a href="/wiki/Texas" title="Texas">Texas</a>, <a href="/wiki/United_States" title="United States">U.S</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reuters.com/science/spacex-launches-sixth-starship-rocket-texas-2024-11-19/">(Reuters)</a></li></ul></div></div></div> </td></tr></tbody></table></div> <hr/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_2024_Somaliland_presidential_election-November_19-20241122054800">(Posted) 2024 Somaliland presidential election</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: (Posted) 2024 Somaliland presidential election">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 123px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_(cropped).jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_%28cropped%29.jpg/123px-Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_%28cropped%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="123" height="159" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_%28cropped%29.jpg/185px-Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_%28cropped%29.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_%28cropped%29.jpg/246px-Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi_%28cropped%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="271" data-file-height="351"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" title="2024 Somaliland presidential election">2024 Somaliland presidential election</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" title="Talk:2024 Somaliland presidential election">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2024_Somaliland_presidential_election&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2024_Somaliland_presidential_election&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Somaliland+presidential+election">tag</a>) Blurb: Opposition candidate <a href="/wiki/Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi" title="Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi">Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi</a> "Irro" (pictured) is confirmed to have won the <a href="/wiki/2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" title="2024 Somaliland presidential election">2024 Somaliland presidential election</a>, beating incumbent <a href="/wiki/President_of_Somaliland" title="President of Somaliland">President</a> <a href="/wiki/Muse_Bihi_Abdi" title="Muse Bihi Abdi">Muse Bihi Abdi</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: <a href="/wiki/Abdirahman_Mohamed_Abdullahi" title="Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi">Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi</a> is <a href="/wiki/2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" title="2024 Somaliland presidential election">elected</a> <a href="/wiki/President_of_Somaliland" title="President of Somaliland">President of Somaliland</a>. News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpvzxg3n3dmo">[18]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/somaliland-opposition-leader-abdirahman-cirro-wins-election-garowe-online-2024-11-19/">[19]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/19/oppositions-abdullahi-wins-presidential-election-in-breakaway-somaliland">[20]</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Created and nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Subayerboombastic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Subayerboombastic (page does not exist)">Subayerboombastic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Subayerboombastic" title="User talk:Subayerboombastic">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Subayerboombastic&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5B2024+Somaliland+presidential+election%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=2024+Somaliland+presidential+election&preloadparams%5b%5d=created+and+nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Subayerboombastic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Subayerboombastic (page does not exist)">Subayerboombastic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Subayerboombastic" title="User talk:Subayerboombastic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Subayerboombastic-20241122054800-(Posted)_2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] Comment: Somaliland is not fully internationally recognized as a sovereign state. <a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harizotoh9" title="User talk:Harizotoh9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Harizotoh9-20241122071800-(Posted)_2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Nor is Taiwan, but both are de facto independent and functioning democracies. I'm undecided whether that is sufficient to post, but it certainly isn't a clear-cut case. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241122121100-Harizotoh9-20241122071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The argument for posting about elections in the Republic of China is entirely different than posting about elections in breakaway separatist republics. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241122162600-Modest_Genius-20241122121100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Isn't Taiwan a breakaway rebel province (PRC view) or the legitimate government (ROC view)? <a href="/wiki/User:Howard_the_Duck" title="User:Howard the Duck">Howard the Duck</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Howard_the_Duck" title="User talk:Howard the Duck">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Howard_the_Duck-20241124010500-Scu_ba-20241122162600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:05, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Taiwan is much more recognized than Somaliland though. <a href="/wiki/User:Harizotoh9" title="User:Harizotoh9">Harizotoh9</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Harizotoh9" title="User talk:Harizotoh9">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Harizotoh9-20241123134200-Modest_Genius-20241122121100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:42, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Oppose we don't post election results for unrecognized states like Transnistria, South Ossetia, Abkhazia (<a href="/wiki/2024_Abkhazian_protests" title="2024 Abkhazian protests">whose government was toppled 3 days ago</a>). <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241122162500-Harizotoh9-20241122071800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256395271"> <table class="hidden-archive mw-collapsible mw-archivedtalk mw-collapsed"> <tbody><tr> <th class="hat-header"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTFORUM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTFORUM">WP:NOTFORUM</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241124010700-(Posted)_2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] </th></tr> <tr> <td style="font-style:italic;">The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. </td></tr> <tr> <td class="hat-content"> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu ba</a>: Apples and pears, Somaliland isn't a puppet state propped up by a globe-threatening dictatorship. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241123151700-(Posted)_2024_Somaliland_presidential_election" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>True, it's just propped up by a <a href="/wiki/Ethiopia" title="Ethiopia">region threatening dictatorship</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241123161300-Abcmaxx-20241123151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd>Support ITN has posted election results <s>from the SADR</s> (Seems I misremembered? Regardless, the distinction for which nation we deem fine and not is quite arbitrary. Somaliland functions as a state with its own independent elections, it is not a micronation or an autonomous region in its current de facto state) and even subnational entities so I would say this is fine. I'm glad someone was able to nominate this, I intended to originally regardless. A change in government too, which is notable. The article looks fine to me. <a href="/wiki/User:Ornithoptera" title="User:Ornithoptera">Ornithoptera</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ornithoptera" title="User talk:Ornithoptera">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ornithoptera-20241122175900-Abcmaxx-20241123151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Comment: For the record, the <a href="/wiki/2021_Somaliland_parliamentary_election" title="2021 Somaliland parliamentary election">2021 Somaliland parliamentary election</a> was not only nominated but also made it to the very top of the front page <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Posted/June_2021">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Posted/June_2021</a> check June 6. Yes Somaliland is Unrecognized, but it is a fully functioning democracy same as Taiwan. In the past its articles have been featured and now should be no different. Somaliland is a free standing de facto state and articles from less independent states have been featured before, such as North Cyprus. Main point being there is precedent from their election in 2021 that they can be featured so I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Subayerboombastic&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Subayerboombastic (page does not exist)">Subayerboombastic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Subayerboombastic" title="User talk:Subayerboombastic">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Subayerboombastic-20241122182800-Abcmaxx-20241123151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Support Not ITNR, but there is also is no hard rule against posting. We have posted Somaliland election results before. This one is particularly notable because it represents a major change - such a major change, in fact, that there are articles in reputable sources saying <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.the-independent.com/news/uk/politics/trump-somaliland-new-country-gavin-williamson-b2648376.html">it may lead to Donald Trump's administration recognizing Somaliland as a state</a>. All in all, it is drumming up news coverage and has broader ramifications in international geopolitics. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241122224000-Abcmaxx-20241123151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support per above, and propose altblurb. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip">The</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip">Kip</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Kip" title="Special:Contributions/The Kip">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_Kip-20241123035800-Abcmaxx-20241123151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:58, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support. We look at unrecognized states on a case by case basis. They are not automatically bound. Here it looks like it has geopolitical considerations as well as being a change of a longtime governing party. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241123043400-Abcmaxx-20241123151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:34, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Somaliland is a de facto long-standing independent state just like any other, the only exception is that other countries have no interest in recognising them (in some cases it would be against their own interest to do so). Unlike some other examples, it's not a puppet state nor just some rogue separatists controlling a territory. The closest example would be Taiwan, although the geo-political situation and involvement of world powers is very different. I would even propose to make it ITN/R. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241123152700-Abcmaxx-20241123151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>@<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> don't want this to become stale, can someone take a look at this? 5:1 ratio and both perspectives have made arguments clear. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241123162400-Abcmaxx-20241123151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:24, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Support as per Modest Genius. Recognition isn't necessary for the election results to be significant enough for ITN. --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20241124005800-Abcmaxx-20241123151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Comment: Seems like there is consensus to post; however the prose update in the results section is too short. <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer">Spencer</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spencer" title="User talk:Spencer">T•</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spencer" title="Special:Contributions/Spencer">C</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Spencer-20241124041200-Abcmaxx-20241123151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I exapanded this a little by the way <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241124193600-Spencer-20241124041200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:36, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Support per above<a href="/wiki/User:Kowal2701" title="User:Kowal2701">Kowal2701</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kowal2701" title="User talk:Kowal2701">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kowal2701-20241124171900-Abcmaxx-20241123151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Posted without the nickname or opponent. – <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu">Muboshgu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Muboshgu#top" title="User talk:Muboshgu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Muboshgu-20241124184500-Abcmaxx-20241123151700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_RD:_Diane_Coleman" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_RD:_Diane_Coleman-November_19-20241122032000">(Posted) RD: Diane Coleman</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: (Posted) RD: Diane Coleman">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Diane_Coleman" title="Diane Coleman">Diane Coleman</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Diane_Coleman" title="Talk:Diane Coleman">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diane_Coleman&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Diane_Coleman&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Diane+Coleman">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/20/us/diane-coleman-dead.html">New York Times</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Updated and nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:TJMSmith" title="User:TJMSmith">TJMSmith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TJMSmith" title="User talk:TJMSmith">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TJMSmith&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BDiane+Coleman%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Diane+Coleman&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated+and+updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: American lawyer and disability rights advocate. Died on Nov 1. First reported November 19 here: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.ncd.gov/2024/11/19/ncd-remembers-diane-coleman/">National Council on Disablity 2024</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:TJMSmith" title="User:TJMSmith">TJMSmith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TJMSmith" title="User talk:TJMSmith">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TJMSmith-20241122032000-(Posted)_RD:_Diane_Coleman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support Looks ready. <a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thriley" title="User talk:Thriley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Thriley-20241122173300-TJMSmith-20241122032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Posted <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20241123070500-TJMSmith-20241122032000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:05, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Withdrawn)_Undersea_cables_incident" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Withdrawn)_Undersea_cables_incident-November_19-20241121005000">(Withdrawn) Undersea cables incident</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: (Withdrawn) Undersea cables incident">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1250141580"><div class="boilerplate archived archive-top mw-archivedtalk" style=""><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1235681985"><div class="side-box metadata side-box-right archive-top-result" style="padding: 10px; line-height: inherit;"> <div class="side-box-abovebelow" style="padding: 0;"> NON-ADMIN CLOSURE</div> <div class="side-box-flex"> <div class="side-box-text" style="padding: 0;">Nominator withdrew nomination <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241121034700-(Withdrawn)_Undersea_cables_incident" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</div></div> </div> <div class="boilerplate-header" style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;"> The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. </div> <hr/> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Transatlantic_cables_incident" title="Transatlantic cables incident">Transatlantic cables incident</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Transatlantic_cables_incident" title="Talk:Transatlantic cables incident">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Transatlantic_cables_incident&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Transatlantic_cables_incident&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Transatlantic+cables+incident">tag</a>) Blurb: The <a href="/wiki/Royal_Danish_Navy" title="Royal Danish Navy">Royal Danish Navy</a> detains a <a href="/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_China" class="mw-redirect" title="People's Republic of China">Chinese</a> vessel in the <a href="/wiki/Transatlantic_cables_incident" title="Transatlantic cables incident">first enforcement action since 1959</a> of the <a href="/wiki/Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Submarine_Telegraph_Cables" title="Convention for the Protection of Submarine Telegraph Cables">Convention for the Protection of Submarine Telegraph Cables</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/chinese-registered-ship-is-held-in-baltic-sea-sabotage-investigation-27929472">[21]</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Updated and nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Chetsford" title="User:Chetsford">Chetsford</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetsford" title="User talk:Chetsford">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chetsford&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BTransatlantic+cables+incident%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Transatlantic+cables+incident&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated+and+updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated</div> Nominator's comment: I threw this article on the 1959 incident together a few minutes ago after news of the Danish intervention broke; I believe it's in good shape but apologies for any errors or omissions due to haste <a href="/wiki/User:Chetsford" title="User:Chetsford">Chetsford</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetsford" title="User talk:Chetsford">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Chetsford-20241121005000-(Withdrawn)_Undersea_cables_incident" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Strong oppose for now - the target should be <a href="/wiki/2024_Baltic_Sea_submarine_cable_disruptions" title="2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions">2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions</a> or ideally <a href="/wiki/Yi_Peng_3" title="Yi Peng 3">Yi Peng 3</a>, the ship detained. If something is conclusively proven and charged in a court of law or any escalations or developments to any of the numerous wars going on worldwide come of this, maybe I'll support, but for now it's equivalent to a marginally important arrest of a private individual and therefore not ITN-worthy. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241121010800-Chetsford-20241121005000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Withdraw as nom My apologies, I wasn't aware we had a <a href="/wiki/2024_Baltic_Sea_submarine_cable_disruptions" title="2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions">2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions</a> article at all. Thanks to <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> for pointing this out. <a href="/wiki/User:Chetsford" title="User:Chetsford">Chetsford</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chetsford" title="User talk:Chetsford">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Chetsford-20241121011000-Chetsford-20241121005000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div style="padding-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic; border-top: 1px solid #a2a9b1; margin: 0.5em 0; padding-top: 0.5em">The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.</div> </div><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_RD:_Tony_Campolo" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_RD:_Tony_Campolo-November_19-20241120085200">(Posted) RD: Tony Campolo</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: (Posted) RD: Tony Campolo">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Tony_Campolo" title="Tony Campolo">Tony Campolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Tony_Campolo" title="Talk:Tony Campolo">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tony_Campolo&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tony_Campolo&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Tony+Campolo">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tony-campolo-sociologist-and-famed-red-letter-christian-has-died/ar-AA1uoGja">MSN</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User:Pharaoh of the Wizards">Pharaoh of the Wizards</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User talk:Pharaoh of the Wizards">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BTony+Campolo%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Tony+Campolo&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: American sociologist and Baptist pastor. <a href="/wiki/User:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User:Pharaoh of the Wizards">Pharaoh of the Wizards</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards" title="User talk:Pharaoh of the Wizards">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200-(Posted)_RD:_Tony_Campolo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Support: Article looks good. No obvious gaps in references; If anyone observes any gaps, please point them out and we can get them addressed. <a href="/wiki/User:KConWiki" title="User:KConWiki">KConWiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KConWiki" title="User talk:KConWiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-KConWiki-20241120143300-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li><s>Oppose</s> for now. there is a quote that needs a citation, but the article is otherwise in good shape. <a href="/wiki/User:HistoryTheorist" title="User:HistoryTheorist">❤History</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:HistoryTheorist" title="User talk:HistoryTheorist">Theorist❤</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-HistoryTheorist-20241120211200-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>What specifically is the concern you allude to? <a href="/wiki/User:KConWiki" title="User:KConWiki">KConWiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KConWiki" title="User talk:KConWiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-KConWiki-20241120220100-HistoryTheorist-20241120211200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:01, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>There is like two sentences thats uncited in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241120223400-KConWiki-20241120220100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd>Support Article looks good. Except for like two sentences all other sections are cited well. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241120223700-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Comment: If people with concerns about missing citations can put up CN tags or give which specific areas are of concern, I will be happy to attempt to resolve them. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:KConWiki" title="User:KConWiki">KConWiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KConWiki" title="User talk:KConWiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-KConWiki-20241121000700-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks. I have had some issues with power outages and thus lack of reliable internet, so I will do that. <a href="/wiki/User:HistoryTheorist" title="User:HistoryTheorist">❤History</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:HistoryTheorist" title="User talk:HistoryTheorist">Theorist❤</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-HistoryTheorist-20241122050900-KConWiki-20241121000700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Support Not the strongest of supports because there is still some referencing work I would like to see happen, but not a dealbreaker for ITN. <a href="/wiki/User:HistoryTheorist" title="User:HistoryTheorist">❤History</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:HistoryTheorist" title="User talk:HistoryTheorist">Theorist❤</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-HistoryTheorist-20241123044000-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>A whole load of unreferenced works. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Stephen-20241123070300-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yeah, typically would want ISBNs or similar or citations. —<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Bagumba-20241123135900-Stephen-20241123070300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:59, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>I will work on ISBNs today - <a href="/wiki/User:KConWiki" title="User:KConWiki">KConWiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KConWiki" title="User talk:KConWiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-KConWiki-20241123143500-Stephen-20241123070300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:35, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></li> <li>Commment: I now have gone through the entire published works section, removed a couple of duplicates, provided ISBNs for all listed works, and provided either Internet Archive or else Google Books links for almost all listed works. Anyone who would care to review and comment, please feel free. Are there any other areas of concern? Thanks to all - <a href="/wiki/User:KConWiki" title="User:KConWiki">KConWiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KConWiki" title="User talk:KConWiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-KConWiki-20241123212700-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Not ready I've had a look and date and place of birth are unreferenced. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241124200900-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Comment: Thanks for that observation - I have now covered both birthdate and birthplace with the recent <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/24/us/tony-campolo-dead.html">NYT obituary</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:KConWiki" title="User:KConWiki">KConWiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KConWiki" title="User talk:KConWiki">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-KConWiki-20241124203500-Schwede66-20241124200900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul></li> <li>Support issues look to have been fixed. @<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> will fall off nominations soon, will we be able to post this in time please? <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241125085200-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Posted – <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241125085700-Pharaoh_of_the_Wizards-20241120085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_Hīkoi_mō_te_Tiriti" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_Hīkoi_mō_te_Tiriti-November_19-20241119164000">(Posted) Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: (Posted) Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1053378754"><div role="figure" class="itn-img"> <div class="thumbinner mp-thumb" style="background: transparent; color: inherit; border: none; padding: 0; max-width: 162px;"> <a href="/wiki/File:Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Proposed image"><img alt="Proposed image" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg/162px-Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg" decoding="async" width="162" height="122" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg/243px-Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg/324px-Hikoi_to_Parliament_2.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4000" data-file-height="3000"/></a></div> </div>Article: <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Talk:Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=H%C4%ABkoi+m%C5%8D+te+Tiriti">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</a> arrives at <a href="/wiki/New_Zealand" title="New Zealand">New Zealand</a>'s <a href="/wiki/Parliament_of_New_Zealand" class="mw-redirect" title="Parliament of New Zealand">Parliament</a> with over 60,000 people after 9 day journey to protest <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">bill that would reform</a> the <a href="/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi">Principles</a> of the <a href="/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Treaty of Waitangi">Treaty of Waitangi</a> amid fears it would reduce <a href="/wiki/M%C4%81ori_rights" class="mw-redirect" title="Māori rights">Māori rights</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) Alternative blurb: <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</a> (pictured) arrives as the largest protest in the country's history at <a href="/wiki/New_Zealand_Parliament" title="New Zealand Parliament">New Zealand's Parliament</a>, protesting <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">the bill that would reform</a> the <a href="/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi">principles of the Treaty of Waitangi</a> amid fears it would reduce <a href="/wiki/M%C4%81ori_protest_movement" title="Māori protest movement">Māori rights</a>. Alternative blurb II: New Zealand witnesses the <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">largest protest</a> (pictured) in its history in response to <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">a proposed bill</a> that would reinterpret the <a href="/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Treaty of Waitangi">Treaty of Waitangi</a>. Alternative blurb III: New Zealand witnesses the <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">largest protest</a> (pictured) in its history in response to <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">a proposed bill</a> that would reform the <a href="/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi">principles of the Treaty of Waitangi</a>. Alternative blurb IV: New Zealand witnesses <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">one of the largest protests</a> (pictured) in its history in response to <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">a proposed bill</a> that would reform the <a href="/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi">principles of the Treaty of Waitangi</a>. News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/11/19/national-hikoi-heads-to-parliament-what-to-expect-today/">1news.co.nz</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Updated and nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Serial_Number_54129" title="User:Serial Number 54129">Serial Number 54129</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Serial_Number_54129&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BH%C4%ABkoi+m%C5%8D+te+Tiriti%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=H%C4%ABkoi+m%C5%8D+te+Tiriti&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated+and+updated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Created by <a href="/wiki/User:TheLoyalOrder" title="User:TheLoyalOrder">TheLoyalOrder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheLoyalOrder" title="User talk:TheLoyalOrder">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheLoyalOrder&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BH%C4%ABkoi+m%C5%8D+te+Tiriti%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=H%C4%ABkoi+m%C5%8D+te+Tiriti&preloadparams%5b%5d=created">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div> <ul><li>Small country not used to seeing large marches, first nation issues, covered internationally and with long term effects. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000-(Posted)_Hīkoi_mō_te_Tiriti" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment The protest has broad support by <a href="/wiki/P%C4%81keh%C4%81" title="Pākehā">Pākehā</a> (non-Māori), hence the blurb isn't quite right. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241119181800-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede66</a>, blurb now tweaked. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241119185900-Schwede66-20241119181800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Sorry, I still don't like the blurb and have posted an altblurb for consideration. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120044400-Serial_Number_54129-20241119185900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Support - Massive international coverage, largest protests in New Zealand for a long time. <a href="/wiki/User:PrecariousWorlds" title="User:PrecariousWorlds">PrecariousWorlds</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrecariousWorlds" title="User talk:PrecariousWorlds">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-PrecariousWorlds-20241119190700-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Suppport, though the blurb is inaccurate, proponents of the bill also argue it will redefine the principles, that's the point of the legislation. <a href="/wiki/User:TheLoyalOrder" title="User:TheLoyalOrder">TheLoyalOrder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheLoyalOrder" title="User talk:TheLoyalOrder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheLoyalOrder-20241119194600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:TheLoyalOrder" title="User:TheLoyalOrder">TheLoyalOrder</a>: Tweaked. Note it was taken directly from your original lead ;) <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241119204700-TheLoyalOrder-20241119194600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Support Per above <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241119194700-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Weak support Plenty of coverage and it's a nationwide protest with over 30,000 in attendance in Wellington alone after all. The lede could be expanded, though. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241119201900-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Lead expanded. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241119204700-Departure–-20241119201900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Oppose as stale. These protests began on 10 November, and it has been 9 days since then. — <a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk">Red-tailed hawk</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User talk:Red-tailed hawk">(nest)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Red-tailed_hawk-20241119212200-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The protests are in their final day as they reach Wellington and Parliament today. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241119215000-Red-tailed_hawk-20241119212200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Red-tailed_hawk" title="User:Red-tailed hawk">Red-tailed hawk</a>: Hello. The marches stated nine days ago relatively small. They garnered very little attention then, naturally, because of their size. This is the climax. ITN shows the Oscars, not the date the invites go out. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241119223000-Red-tailed_hawk-20241119212200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:30, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Comment Maybe put <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">occurs across New Zealand</q> earlier, followed by <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">against ....</q> <a href="/wiki/User:Kowal2701" title="User:Kowal2701">Kowal2701</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kowal2701" title="User talk:Kowal2701">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kowal2701-20241119215700-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>occurs across New Zealand is a bit too broad, the hikoi started in Auckland and made its way down to Wellington. This all happened in the North Island, maybe occurs in major cities in the North Island of New Zealand <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241119234200-Kowal2701-20241119215700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Not true. The marches started in various places, in both the North and South islands. They all came together in Wellington. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120085300-Rynoip-20241119234200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Clarified N. Island. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241120004100-Kowal2701-20241119215700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>could do something like: <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</a> arrives at <a href="/wiki/New_Zealand" title="New Zealand">New Zealand</a>'s <a href="/wiki/Parliament_of_New_Zealand" class="mw-redirect" title="Parliament of New Zealand">Parliament</a> with over 60,000 people after 9 day journey to protest <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">bill that would reform</a> the <a href="/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi">Principles</a> of the <a href="/wiki/Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Treaty of Waitangi">Treaty of Waitangi</a> amid fears it would reduce <a href="/wiki/M%C4%81ori" class="mw-disambig" title="Māori">Māori</a> rights <a href="/wiki/User:TheLoyalOrder" title="User:TheLoyalOrder">TheLoyalOrder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheLoyalOrder" title="User talk:TheLoyalOrder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheLoyalOrder-20241120005200-Serial_Number_54129-20241120004100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Support Article is of sufficient quality and notability for ITN. --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20241120005300-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose. Fairly minor in scope as far as protests go. <a href="/wiki/User:Nsk92" title="User:Nsk92">Nsk92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nsk92" title="User talk:Nsk92">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nsk92-20241120011000-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>its one of the biggest (possibly the biggest) protests in New Zealand history <a href="/wiki/User:TheLoyalOrder" title="User:TheLoyalOrder">TheLoyalOrder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheLoyalOrder" title="User talk:TheLoyalOrder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheLoyalOrder-20241120013100-Nsk92-20241120011000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:31, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <ul><li>Oppsee Relatively peaceful compared to other protests, nor yet to shown as impactful (eg like the past India's farmer strike that actually impacted commerce in the country). --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241120011600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Protests don't have to be violent to be meaningful and impactful. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241120195300-Masem-20241120011600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>There are protests nearly happening every day around the world. We have no room to cover them all, so we need to look at scale and impact. This specific protest lack either (particularly after it appear no laws will be changed) <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241120200500-AusLondonder-20241120195300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <ul><li>Support the hīkoi is seven times the size of the notable 1975 Land March led by Dame Whina Cooper. Videos of MP Hana-Rwhiti Maipi-Clarke's haka in Parliament on the 14th, relevant to the hīkoi and the Treaty Priniciples Bill are already viral and in global news cycles. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ladygeekiness&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ladygeekiness (page does not exist)">Ladygeekiness</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ladygeekiness&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Ladygeekiness (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ladygeekiness-20241120015300-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Link to <a href="/wiki/M%C4%81ori_land_march" title="Māori land march">Māori land march</a> article for context. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120085600-Ladygeekiness-20241120015300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Support I disagree it's minor, it has made all major news outlets around the world even in non-anglophone countries, which usually pay very little attention to New Zealand and even less so to Maori issues. The lack of violence should not be a factor on notability. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241120093300-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The barrier for inclusion in major news outlets is extremely low. That should not be used as a judgement of significance, because news reports events big and small. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Masem" title="User talk:Masem">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Masem-20241120130000-Abcmaxx-20241120093300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>That applies to domestic news though, if this protest was not notable nor impactful it would not have gathered so much global attention. Plenty of genuinely important news does not get reported either it's a double-edged sword anyway. <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241120144900-Masem-20241120130000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Oppose It appears that the bill is unlikely to become law anyway and so there’s little impact. Such demonstrations and protests are common — for example, there was a big farmers’ protest in London on this day. This one doesn’t seem sufficiently significant. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241120113000-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose A run-of-the-mill, peaceful protest against a bill the NZ government has said it will not back coming into law. No different from the Farmer protests here in the UK at the moment. <a href="/wiki/User:The_C_of_E" title="User:The C of E">The C of E God Save the King!</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_C_of_E" title="User talk:The C of E">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_C_of_E-20241120114000-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support - Absolutely notable, and rare significant news from that corner of the globe. Comparisons to other countries of course run afoul of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNATA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNATA">WP:ITNATA</a>. Duly signed, <a href="/wiki/User:WaltCip" title="User:WaltCip">⛵ WaltClipper</a></li> <li>Comment - I'm utterly befuddled by the rationales used to oppose this item so far. One rationale implies that because there wasn't any violence or killing, it isn't notable; another says that because the journey across country took nine days, that it's technically outside the news cycle; and another is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CRYSTALBALL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CRYSTALBALL">speculating</a> that the bill won't become law anyway so there's no point in protesting. Much of this doesn't have any bearing on the actual significance of the item. Duly signed, <a href="/wiki/User:WaltCip" title="User:WaltCip">⛵ WaltClipper </a>-(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WaltCip" title="User talk:WaltCip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-WaltCip-20241120134500-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support We posted the <a href="/wiki/2023_Australian_Indigenous_Voice_referendum" title="2023 Australian Indigenous Voice referendum">2023 Australian Indigenous Voice referendum</a>, this is perhaps even more significant in that it signals a rollback of already agreed upon law and rights. CRYSTALBALLing aside, about whether this may or may not pass, the protests have to be seen in the context of New Zealand politics where these are important (largest ever?) and a significant point in the country's and Maori history. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241120143600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The difference is the referendum was just that, a referendum with 15,739,686 votes. These are protests 82,000 strong (and that's being generous) in a country of 5.22 Million. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241120165500-Gotitbro-20241120143600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>A meaningless comparison. Voting in a referendum in Australia is compulsory. All the NZ protesters are there by choice. <a href="/wiki/User:HiLo48" title="User:HiLo48">HiLo48</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HiLo48" title="User talk:HiLo48">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-HiLo48-20241121015000-Scu_ba-20241120165500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><dl><dd><dl><dd>That's 1.58% then. For comparison, someone above made a curious (and frankly nonsensical) argument that it's the same as a march of 13,000 people out of a population of 65,000,000... or .02% *facepalm* <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">Tight faded male arse. Decadence and anarchy. A certain style.</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">Smile.</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241120171300-Scu_ba-20241120165500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yeah that's nonsense, the farmer's protest in the UK shouldn't be posted either and if someone nominates it I will vote oppose there too. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241120174400-Serial_Number_54129-20241120171300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li></ul> <ul><li>Oppose protests aren't large enough to warrant posting. Any argument to the contrary is just a pro-Western bias. Comparing these protests to the <a href="/wiki/2024_Armenian_protests" title="2024 Armenian protests">2024 Armenian protests</a> for example, which had 20,000 protesters in a country of 3,000,000, several hundred arrests, and called for a regime change, the verdict of ITN was that it wasn't notable enough to post. These protests are 82,000 in a country of 5,200,000 and are seeking to preserve the special status of one ethnic group over others.</li></ul> <dl><dd>It would be a heinous double standard if we post this to ITN. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241120171700-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li><dl><dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">These protests...are seeking to preserve the special status of one ethnic group over others</q> is a ridiculous and cynical misrepresentation of what the protests are about. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241120195900-Scu_ba-20241120171700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>So you don't believe that <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The New Zealand Government has the right to govern all New Zealanders</q> nor that <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">All New Zealanders are equal under the law with the same rights and duties</q>? Bold of you I guess. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241120215000-AusLondonder-20241120195900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu ba</a>, things are a bit more nuanced than what you make out. Maybe it's best to not argue the finer details that are hard to understand when you don't live here. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241121072500-Scu_ba-20241120215000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Ah yes, I forgot that you have to live in the country that the ITN/C event is taking place in in order to vote on its inclusion. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241121161700-Schwede66-20241121072500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Well your POV is very clear on this one. 13:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC) <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Secretlondon-20241122132900-Scu_ba-20241121161700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>How is it ridiculous and cynical? It is precisely what it is. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241120214900-Scu_ba-20241120171700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>82000 in 5200000 is about 1.6% of the country. How is that not large enough to be significant? --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20241121040200-Scu_ba-20241120171700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>For comparison, an equivalently-sized protest in the United states would be 5.5 million people. <a href="/wiki/User:Turnagra" title="User:Turnagra">Turnagra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Turnagra" title="User talk:Turnagra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Turnagra-20241121175300-MtPenguinMonster-20241121040200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The <a href="/wiki/2017_Women%27s_March" title="2017 Women's March">2017 Women's March</a> was posted the day after it happened, with an attendance between 3 and roughly 4.5 million. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241121180200-Turnagra-20241121175300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>The Armenian protests are neither the largest there, and when seen in context of recent Armenian history, nor unique. 6 protests are registered at <a href="/wiki/Protests_in_Armenia" title="Protests in Armenia">Protests in Armenia</a> in relation to the current PM <a href="/wiki/Nikol_Pashinyan" title="Nikol Pashinyan">Nikol Pashinyan</a> and these were the fourth regular one in the context of the current phase of the <a href="/wiki/Nagorno-Karabakh_conflict" title="Nagorno-Karabakh conflict">Nagorno-Karabakh conflict</a> (whose last flare-up, <a href="/wiki/2023_Azerbaijani_offensive_in_Nagorno-Karabakh" title="2023 Azerbaijani offensive in Nagorno-Karabakh">2023 Azerbaijani offensive in Nagorno-Karabakh</a>, we posted); preceded by <a href="/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_Armenian_protests" title="2020–2021 Armenian protests">2020–2021 Armenian protests</a>, <a href="/wiki/2022_Armenian_protests" title="2022 Armenian protests">2022 Armenian protests</a>, <a href="/wiki/2023_Armenian_protests" title="2023 Armenian protests">2023 Armenian protests</a>. I think why these might not be seen as notable is evident.</dd> <dd>Calling the protests, which are against a minor political party's efforts to re-interpret or rather rollback the <a href="/wiki/Principles_of_the_Treaty_of_Waitangi" title="Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi">Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi</a> (already seen as inadequate for <a href="/wiki/Indigenous_rights_in_New_Zealand" class="mw-redirect" title="Indigenous rights in New Zealand">indigenous rights in New Zealand</a>), preservation of special treatment is rather disingenous. The view that the bill seeks to enable resource exploitation in indigenous lands without having to specifically consult those people has more currency than any purported equal treatment of the citizens of New Zealand. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241121082500-Scu_ba-20241120171700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>What? Do you not support equal rights for all kiwis? <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">indigenous lands without having to specifically consult those people</q> is a bit fake considering the bill is to make all kiwis equal without special rights or privileges. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241121203800-Gotitbro-20241121082500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Support largest protest that New Zealand has ever seen and has been covered extensively in major news sources across the world - the event is absolutely notable enough to post. The article itself is extensive and well-sourced, and easily of the quality we would want for a front page feature. <a href="/wiki/User:Turnagra" title="User:Turnagra">Turnagra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Turnagra" title="User talk:Turnagra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Turnagra-20241120172900-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:29, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support as per other editors. Largest protest in New Zealand's history sounds like something we should post, and it has even made it into German news. Both blurbs are very long however, and a bit arcane. Simpler and shorter blurb proposed. <a href="/wiki/User:Khuft" title="User:Khuft">Khuft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Khuft" title="User talk:Khuft">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Khuft-20241120193200-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support It's in the news and has attracted worldwide attention. ITN shouldn't ignore genuine news from smaller countries. Second blurb sounds better but would be open to other suggestions. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241120195700-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment It would be good if we could get the Hīkoi mō te Tiriti posted now given clear consensus in favour. <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AusLondonder" title="User talk:AusLondonder">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-AusLondonder-20241121161200-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:12, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a>. I've developed ALT3 based on your blurb and my previous ALT1. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120204100-AusLondonder-20241121161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Support per @<a href="/wiki/User:AusLondonder" title="User:AusLondonder">AusLondonder</a>, eyes are on New Zealand especially in part due to <a href="/wiki/Hana-Rawhiti_Maipi-Clarke" title="Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke">Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke</a>'s actions. <a href="/wiki/User:TansoShoshen" title="User:TansoShoshen">TansoShoshen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TansoShoshen" title="User talk:TansoShoshen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TansoShoshen-20241121065200-AusLondonder-20241121161200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li> <li>Comment I don't think we can call it the "largest protest" in the country's history because The Spinoff source in the article merely estimated it as being the largest, and described the difficulty in knowing for sure. The BBC described it as "one of the biggest" rather than "the biggest", so I think the blurb should reflect this. ―<a href="/wiki/User:Panamitsu" title="User:Panamitsu">Panamitsu</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Panamitsu" title="User talk:Panamitsu">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Panamitsu-20241120220900-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The largest protests in NZ were about the <a href="/wiki/1981_South_Africa_rugby_union_tour_of_New_Zealand_and_the_United_States#Tour_of_New_Zealand" title="1981 South Africa rugby union tour of New Zealand and the United States">1981 Springbok tour</a> and involved over 150,000 people, which is more than this protest. See <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://nzhistory.govt.nz/culture/1981-springbok-tour#:~:text=1981%20Springbok%20tour&text=More%20than%20150%2C000%20people%20took,rugby%20team%20(the%20Springboks).">NZ history</a>. And then there were events like the <a href="/wiki/1913_Great_Strike" title="1913 Great Strike">1913 Great Strike</a> when the population was much smaller. What we've got here is hype and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RECENTISM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RECENTISM">WP:RECENTISM</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241120232800-Panamitsu-20241120220900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Note that the 150,000 protesters are the sum of the 200 protests in relation to the 1981 Springbok tour. None of them individually were anywhere near as big as the 42,000 people who were protesting in Wellington on Tuesday, as estimated by the Police. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241121072100-Andrew_Davidson-20241120232800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>If we are going to say that the protest against the treaty is the largest in NZ history, as alt blurbs 2 and 3 do, this needs to be backed up by a claim in the article with a verifiable citation from a reliable source. The article <a href="/wiki/H%C4%ABkoi_m%C5%8D_te_Tiriti" title="Hīkoi mō te Tiriti">Hīkoi mō te Tiriti</a> currently cites a writer for The Spinoff who "estimated it was the largest protest Wellington had ever seen, potentially the largest in New Zealand's history." The last part is hedged.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>With this in mind, I would say that: <ul><li>The original blurb, omitting any comparisons, is fine.</li> <li>Alt blurb 1 may be okay but it depends on how you parse it. If you parse it as "largest (protest in the country's history at New Zealand's Parliament)" then it's fine, as The Spinoff makes this exact claim very confidently. If you parse it "(largest protest in the country's history) at New Zealand's Parliament", which I think is the intended and more natural parsing, then it's problematic.</li> <li>Alt blurbs 2 and 3 are not adequately supported by existing sources or the article text, and even though they may be true, verifiability is the most important criterion to judge them by.</li> <li>Alt blurb 4, which uses the wording "one of the largest protests" (mirroring the BBC), is fine.</li> <li>I might also propose something like "New Zealand witnesses the largest protest in its capital's [or: its parliament's] history...". That would be less ambiguously parsed than alt blurb 1.</li></ul></dd> <dd>Note that the issue isn't even just about comparing head counts of a single protest vs. multiple protests aggregated. The article in The Spinoff mentions a possible 2010 protest with 80,000 people in Auckland, and although the author states that the 80K figure is "hard to prove", and even claims that the current protest is "probably" the biggest single-location NZ protest, that uncertainty may be enough of a reason to avoid outright making the claim that alt blurbs 2-3 (and 1 if you parse it the obvious way) do. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88" title="Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88">98.170.164.88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:98.170.164.88" title="User talk:98.170.164.88">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-98.170.164.88-20241121110400-Schwede66-20241121072100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>The protests you mentioned were against <a href="/wiki/Apartheid" title="Apartheid">apartheid</a> in South Africa, which is the single largest political matter in its modern history and which involved widespread international pressure, not just from New Zealand. If that's your comparison point, then I think this protest is doing well for significance. Duly signed, <a href="/wiki/User:WaltCip" title="User:WaltCip">⛵ WaltClipper </a>-(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WaltCip" title="User talk:WaltCip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-WaltCip-20241121135000-Andrew_Davidson-20241120232800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Oppose Per Masem. <a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thriley" title="User talk:Thriley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Thriley-20241121053600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Sorry, this is a rather long post. Unlike <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a>, I suggest that this is a rather impactful protest. The situation reminds me of the <a href="/wiki/New_Zealand_foreshore_and_seabed_controversy" title="New Zealand foreshore and seabed controversy">2004 foreshore and seabed situation</a>; when that unfolded, I thought it was a super-big mistake by <a href="/wiki/Helen_Clark" title="Helen Clark">Helen Clark</a>'s Labour government. They did survive the 2005 general election, but the resentment was deep-seated enough that they didn't get through in 2008. This feels much the same; this time for <a href="/wiki/Christopher_Luxon" title="Christopher Luxon">Christopher Luxon</a>'s National government. In August, former PM <a href="/wiki/John_Key" title="John Key">John Key</a> gave the current PM what I felt was <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/national-party-conference-sir-john-keys-call-to-take-the-temperature-down-on-race-relations-verdict-on-the-national-coalition-with-nz-first-and-act/OPFFPXREPRAYVJ754HDSRFBDKM/#google_vignette">a public telling off</a> in his typical style (one of Key's nicknames is the "smiling assassin", i.e. he smiles while he's telling you off). And <a href="/wiki/Newshub" title="Newshub">Newshub</a>'s chief political journalist explained yesterday that it's going to be a problem for Luxon for months to come: "This will still be going on at the start of the [next] year and the political calendar is traditionally kicked off with a number of Māori events. That is a problem for Christopher Luxon not to have it voted down by then, not to have it neutered." By the time this is over, it will have inflicted a lot of damage on the government, possibly enough that they don't survive the next election. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241121082100-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>As this is a perennial issue which is going to keep rumbling on, why don't we wait until we get a clear impact such as the passing/withdrawal of the bill or an election result? <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Andrew_Davidson-20241121103000-Schwede66-20241121082100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I agree with Andrew🐉: it is probably wiser to post to ITN once the bill is voted on, as that is when there will be a clearer impact. However, when that happens, the protests are still important context to include in the ITN blurb. --<a href="/wiki/User:MtPenguinMonster" title="User:MtPenguinMonster">MtPenguinMonster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MtPenguinMonster" title="User talk:MtPenguinMonster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-MtPenguinMonster-20241121124300-Andrew_Davidson-20241121103000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The Bill got voted through its first reading last week, the hīkoi was partially in response to this. <a href="/wiki/User:Turnagra" title="User:Turnagra">Turnagra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Turnagra" title="User talk:Turnagra">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Turnagra-20241121174500-MtPenguinMonster-20241121124300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>The bill will get its second reading in six months. This is in the news now, based on the first reading. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241121181300-MtPenguinMonster-20241121124300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></li> <li>Support. Quite a significant protest with international news attention and also in relation to size. The protest is the story here, since the coalition partners have pledged to vote the bill down after the committee stage at furher reaadings, so it will almost certainly die out.-- <a href="/wiki/User:Patar_knight" title="User:Patar knight">Patar knight</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Patar_knight" title="User talk:Patar knight">chat</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Patar_knight" title="Special:Contributions/Patar knight">contributions</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Patar_knight-20241121131600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Support These protests are getting worldwide attention and seems to having a quite impact on the native country. <a href="/wiki/User:LiamKorda" title="User:LiamKorda">Liam</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:LiamKorda" title="User talk:LiamKorda">Korda</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-LiamKorda-20241121140900-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose per Masem. <a href="/wiki/User:Alsoriano97" title="User:Alsoriano97">_-_Alsor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alsoriano97" title="User talk:Alsoriano97">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Alsoriano97-20241121145200-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose. This is a big deal in New Zealand, but lacks long-term or wider significance. No legal change has occurred and a majority of parties have indicated that they will oppose the bill. In the end this is just a bit of domestic politics, letting a minor coalition party introduce something controversial purely so it can be demonstrated how unpopular it is. If the Treaty of Waitanga was repealed then that might be suitable for ITN, some peaceful protests against a bill that has no chance of becoming law is not. Once the bill is defeated the protests will quickly be forgotten. <a href="/wiki/User:Modest_Genius" title="User:Modest Genius">Modest Genius</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Modest_Genius" title="User talk:Modest Genius">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Modest_Genius-20241121172800-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support - we posted the protests in Israel against the judicial reform for example, and that never got implemented either. One of the, if not the, largest peaceful protest in the history of a country, one that is widely covered across the globe, merits posting. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nableezy" title="User talk:Nableezy">nableezy</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Nableezy-20241121174000-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support, per nableezy, who puts it quite well. Due to their national scale and international coverage, as well as the lasting effects on the Indigenous rights discourse within New Zealand, I would say it's blurb worthy. <a href="/wiki/User:Ornithoptera" title="User:Ornithoptera">Ornithoptera</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ornithoptera" title="User talk:Ornithoptera">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Ornithoptera-20241121182200-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:22, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support it is already one of the most significant events in New Zealand political history, just by the sheer scale of the public participation. David Palmer//<a href="/wiki/User:Cloventt" title="User:Cloventt">cloventt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cloventt" title="User talk:Cloventt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Cloventt-20241121204100-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support It is getting widespread international coverage, which makes it rise above "mere domestic politics" as implied above. And even if it was not widespread and international in nature, being "domestic" does not make it ITN worthy, so this argument is redundant. Widespread international coverage + major domestic coverage and recordbreaking levels of domestic political participation + lasting impact on Crown-Indigenous relations in New Zealand = suitable for ITN. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241121221900-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:19, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <ul><li>Comment There are 20 votes in favour and 9 votes opposed – a 2:1 ratio in favour. Both perspectives have hashed out their arguments with reasons. The general ratio is in favour and this will likely not dramatically shift, nor will new arguments emerge. As such, I have marked this nom as ready for an admin decision. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241121222600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <ul><li>Support An enormous protest for Indigenous rights that is drawing international attention. -<a href="/wiki/User:TenorTwelve" title="User:TenorTwelve">TenorTwelve</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TenorTwelve" title="User talk:TenorTwelve">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TenorTwelve-20241122105800-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support per nom. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129">SerialNumber</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129">54129</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Serial_Number_54129-20241122110600-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment I want to note that this article has only 4,475 views since it was created four days ago. <a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thriley" title="User talk:Thriley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Thriley-20241122162800-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a>, that is because people who hear about it in the news are not likely to correctly remember or spell the name of the protest movement (it being "Hīkoi mō te Tiriti"). The general wikipedia page for <a href="/wiki/M%C4%81ori_people" title="Māori people">Māori people</a> went from in the vicinity of 3,000 views per day to over 300,000 total views from November 10 (first day of protests) to present. The article for the <a href="/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill" title="Treaty Principles Bill">Treaty Principles Bill</a> also rose to 100,000 views during that same period, from essentially almost zero prior to the protest beginning. These additional page view stats paint a clearer picture that there has been a surge in interest and coverage. So, just looking at that one stat in isolation is very misleading. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241122211400-Thriley-20241122162800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Support per Turnagra <a href="/wiki/User:TheHiddenCity" title="User:TheHiddenCity">TheHiddenCity</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheHiddenCity" title="User talk:TheHiddenCity">talk</a>) — Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">undated</a> comment added <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TheHiddenCity-20241122220200-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>@<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> Can a non-involved admin make a decision please? <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abcmaxx" title="User talk:Abcmaxx">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Abcmaxx-20241123151900-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>@<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> following up on <a href="/wiki/User:Abcmaxx" title="User:Abcmaxx">Abcmaxx</a> and pinging again because I fear this will become stale if not posted soon. There is enough here for a decision to be made. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241124184300-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:43, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Agree; it would be good if one of my colleagues could have a look. :-) <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241124200500-Flipandflopped-20241124184300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd>Support posting Article quality and significance both seem sufficient, and it would be nice to post this before it's too late. As I wrote above in a reply, I prefer alt blurb 4 because the article and its sources don't adequately back up the claim of it being the very largest protest in the NZ history, though that claim is plausible. The original blurb avoids that issue but creates another: pinning down an estimated number of protestors. The 60,000 figure doesn't seem to be consistent with the numbers the article infobox uses anyway, i.e. >82,000 across the country and 42,000 specifically in Wellington/at parliament. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88" title="Special:Contributions/98.170.164.88">98.170.164.88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:98.170.164.88" title="User talk:98.170.164.88">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-98.170.164.88-20241125041000-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:10, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Oppose No long term significance as it is protesting a bill that is already known to never become law. Just a flash in the pan really like the other nearly daily protests that happen at parliament. Only difference was more people. <a href="/wiki/User:Kiwichris" title="User:Kiwichris">Kiwichris</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kiwichris" title="User talk:Kiwichris">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Kiwichris-20241125060400-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>@<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Administrator_instructions" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Administrator instructions">Admins willing to post ITN</a>: <a href="/wiki/User:Valereee" title="User:Valereee"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Muboshgu" title="User:Muboshgu"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"> </a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anarchyte" title="User:Anarchyte"> </a> Third request for a decision to be made one way or another. Duly signed, <a href="/wiki/User:WaltCip" title="User:WaltCip">⛵ WaltClipper </a>-(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WaltCip" title="User talk:WaltCip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-WaltCip-20241125142000-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Consensus has hardly changed since this was nominated and I think it was ready to go on the 20th. It would truly be a shame to see this not posted because the admins that would have posted were either involved, too busy, or considered this stale by now, which it isn't (not for the next day or so). <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241125150600-WaltCip-20241125142000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>+1. IMHO, there has been a clear consensus to post for at least 5 days. I am not sure what is causing the issue here, given that we have posted a litany of other articles during this same time period. <a href="/wiki/User:Flipandflopped" title="User:Flipandflopped">Flip</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped" title="Special:Contributions/Flipandflopped">and</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Flipandflopped" title="User talk:Flipandflopped">Flopped</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility"> ツ</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Flipandflopped-20241125163300-Departure–-20241125150600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:33, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Posted Adapted version of Alt4. "New Zealand witnesses..." was an awkward construction. <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer">Spencer</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spencer" title="User talk:Spencer">T•</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spencer" title="Special:Contributions/Spencer">C</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Spencer-20241125164900-Serial_Number_54129-20241119164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="(Posted)_Hong_Kong_47" data-mw-thread-id="h-(Posted)_Hong_Kong_47-November_19-20241119134100">(Posted) Hong Kong 47</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: (Posted) Hong Kong 47">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-default"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Hong_Kong_47" title="Hong Kong 47">Hong Kong 47</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Hong_Kong_47" title="Talk:Hong Kong 47">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hong_Kong_47&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hong_Kong_47&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Hong+Kong+47">tag</a>) Blurb: <a href="/wiki/Hong_Kong_47" title="Hong Kong 47">45 pro-democracy activists and politicians</a> are sentenced under the <a href="/wiki/2020_Hong_Kong_national_security_law" title="2020 Hong Kong national security law">Chinese law on Hong Kong national security</a> as a results of participation in the <a href="/wiki/2020_Hong_Kong_pro-democracy_primaries" title="2020 Hong Kong pro-democracy primaries">2020 Hong Kong pro-democracy primaries</a>. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2l4eynl4zo">BBC</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">Manchiu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Manchiu&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BHong+Kong+47%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Hong+Kong+47&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li> <li>Updated by <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Natg_19&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BHong+Kong+47%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Hong+Kong+47&preloadparams%5b%5d=updated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div></div>Nominator's comments: lagrest trial under the HK national security law.-<a href="/wiki/User:Manchiu" title="User:Manchiu">Manchiu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Manchiu" title="User talk:Manchiu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Manchiu-20241119134100-(Posted)_Hong_Kong_47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Wait Tables are not fully filled. Aftermath section is not added yet. Besides, many activists are jailed every year, although this is significant in terms of the number of activists jailed, I don't think we should be giving special consideration to this incident. <a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101">TNM101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101">chat</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TNM101-20241119145200-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>This more than "activists getting jailed", but is a greater geo-political issue of the erosion of democratic norms in Hong Kong. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20241119192700-TNM101-20241119145200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><s>Oppose</s> though this court case is notable, we are now in the sentencing phase, which is not as notable. The time to post this would have been in 2021 when the activists were arrested and charged. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20241119165600-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd>On second thought, if we did not post this before, it would be fine to post this now. However, the article still needs improvement. <a href="/wiki/User:Natg_19" title="User:Natg 19">Natg 19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Natg_19" title="User talk:Natg 19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Natg_19-20241119192700-Natg_19-20241119165600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Support Article quality is now good, although the aftermath section could use some expansion. <a href="/wiki/User:Rynoip" title="User:Rynoip">Rynoip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rynoip" title="User talk:Rynoip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Rynoip-20241119195200-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Strong oppose on quality - The article hardly seems updated following sentencing. While it is in the article, it's not nearly enough prose to (in my eyes) justify an ITN blurb. Support on notability. <a href="/wiki/User:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User:Departure–">Departure–</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Departure%E2%80%93" title="User talk:Departure–">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Departure–-20241119202800-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Support: The article is notable and looks good. Till somebody opposing on quality doesn't put forth on what point is the quality going wrong, I don't see anything wrong. <a href="/wiki/User:ExclusiveEditor" title="User:ExclusiveEditor">ExclusiveEditor</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:ExclusiveEditor" title="User talk:ExclusiveEditor">Notify Me!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-ExclusiveEditor-20241119203300-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support Quality looks good and this is getting worldwide news attention, its certainly a notable news story to see democracy and free speech being sadly eroded in Hong Kong. <a href="/wiki/User:The_C_of_E" title="User:The C of E">The C of E God Save the King!</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_C_of_E" title="User talk:The C of E">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-The_C_of_E-20241120072700-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support - Looks alright. Also, when it comes to the current blurbs, the last one about the election is Mauritius is so old, even the winner has long forgot about it... Maybe add something more fresh, like this? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/51.154.145.205" title="Special:Contributions/51.154.145.205">51.154.145.205</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:51.154.145.205" title="User talk:51.154.145.205">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-51.154.145.205-20241120134100-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Comment The democracy movement effectively stopped in Hong Kong in 2020 when the protests were supressed. And while important in the context of those protests, I am not sure if this is an inflection point in the history of the protests or the movement itself. <a href="/wiki/User:Gotitbro" title="User:Gotitbro">Gotitbro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gotitbro" title="User talk:Gotitbro">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Gotitbro-20241120150500-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Support dystopian clampdown by the Chinese government, Also article is of high quality. <a href="/wiki/User:Scu_ba" title="User:Scu ba">Scu</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scu_ba" title="User talk:Scu ba">ba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Scu_ba-20241120172000-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Posted – <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120184800-Manchiu-20241119134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="RD:_Shuntarō_Tanikawa" data-mw-thread-id="h-RD:_Shuntarō_Tanikawa-November_19-20241119055800">RD: Shuntarō Tanikawa</h4>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: RD: Shuntarō Tanikawa">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248495340"> <div class="ITNCandidate ITNCandidate-RD"> Article: <a href="/wiki/Shuntar%C5%8D_Tanikawa" title="Shuntarō Tanikawa">Shuntarō Tanikawa</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Shuntar%C5%8D_Tanikawa" title="Talk:Shuntarō Tanikawa">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shuntar%C5%8D_Tanikawa&action=history">history</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Shuntar%C5%8D_Tanikawa&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Shuntar%C5%8D+Tanikawa">tag</a>) <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Recent deaths">Recent deaths</a> nomination (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit">Post</a>) News source(s): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/11/19/japan/shuntaro-tanikawa-obit/">Japan Times</a> Credits: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"> <ul><li>Nominated by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288 (page does not exist)">240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288" title="User talk:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288">talk</a> · <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288&action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BShuntar%C5%8D+Tanikawa%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Shuntar%C5%8D+Tanikawa&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated">give credit</a>)</li></ul> </div> Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/2016_RD_proposal" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/2016 RD proposal">this RFC</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news/Archive_57#Are_animals_eligible_for_the_Recent_Deaths_section?" title="Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 57">further discussion</a>). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRD">WP:ITNRD</a>.</div>Nominator's comments: Japanese poet. His death announced on this day. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288" title="Special:Contributions/240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288">240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288" title="User talk:240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288-20241119055800-RD:_Shuntarō_Tanikawa" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>Weak oppose on article quality, i'd say add detail on what's listed on bro's greatest work, "Two Billion Light Years of Solitude (1952)". Also, if this article doesn't get approved soon, it may risk becoming stale as bro passed on november 13. <a href="/wiki/User:BlondArkhangel" title="User:BlondArkhangel">BlondArkhangel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BlondArkhangel" title="User talk:BlondArkhangel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-BlondArkhangel-20241119131400-240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288-20241119055800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <dl><dd>Two citation needed tags. Awards section has no sources. <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Secretlondon-20241119230900-240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288-20241119055800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <ul><li>Now five citation needed tags and twice orange-tagged. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-Schwede66-20241120182100-240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288-20241119055800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li> <li>Oppose on quality Multiple tags <a href="/wiki/User:TNM101" title="User:TNM101">TNM101</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TNM101" title="User talk:TNM101">chat</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#c-TNM101-20241121133700-240F:7A:6253:1:9D37:C1EF:6040:C288-20241119055800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="References" data-mw-thread-id="h-References">References</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&action=edit&section=52" title="Edit section: References">edit</a>]</div> Nominators often include links to external websites and other references in discussions on this page. It is usually best to provide such links using the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:External_Links#How_to_link" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:External Links">inline URL syntax</a> <code>[http://example.com]</code> rather than using <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITE#How_to_format_inline_citations" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITE"><code><ref></ref></code> tags</a>, because that keeps all the relevant information in the same place as the nomination without having to jump to this section, and facilitates the archiving process. 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