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/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header" style="color: #202122;background-color: #b0c4de">Background information</th></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label"><span class="nowrap">Birth name</span></th><td class="infobox-data nickname">Philip Bates</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Born</th><td class="infobox-data"><span style="display:none"> (<span class="bday">1953-03-30</span>) </span>30 March 1953<span class="noprint ForceAgeToShow"> (age 71)</span><br />Tamworth, Staffordshire</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Genres</th><td class="infobox-data">Rock, Pop, Blues</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Occupation</th><td class="infobox-data role">Musician</td></tr><tr><th scope="row" class="infobox-label">Instruments</th><td class="infobox-data note"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1129693374">.mw-parser-output .hlist dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist 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vocalist">lead vocalist</a> for <a href="/wiki/ELO_Part_II" title="ELO Part II">ELO Part II</a> from 1993 through to 1999 and then its successor band <a href="/wiki/The_Orchestra_(band)" title="The Orchestra (band)">The Orchestra</a> from 2007 to 2011 and both times being replaced by <a href="/wiki/Parthenon_Huxley" title="Parthenon Huxley">Parthenon Huxley</a>. </p><p>He was also briefly the singer and guitarist for a reunited <a href="/wiki/The_Move" title="The Move">Move</a>, from 2004 to 2007, under the leadership of <a href="/wiki/Electric_Light_Orchestra" title="Electric Light Orchestra">ELO</a> and ELO part 2 drummer <a href="/wiki/Bev_Bevan" title="Bev Bevan">Bev Bevan</a>. </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc" /> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Biography">Biography</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Phil_Bates&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Biography"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Bates was born in <a href="/wiki/Tamworth,_Staffordshire" title="Tamworth, Staffordshire">Tamworth, Staffordshire</a>, England. At the age of twelve he formed his first band, The Wild Four, which was soon renamed The Teenbeats. Bates moved away from his home town in 1970, living in Handsworth, Birmingham, and working in Birmingham music store, Ringway Music (which was owned by jazz musicians Ken Ingarfield, Lionel Rubin, and George Watts). </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1251242444"><table class="box-Empty_section plainlinks metadata ambox mbox-small-left ambox-content" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wiki_letter_w_cropped.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="[icon]" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Wiki_letter_w_cropped.svg/20px-Wiki_letter_w_cropped.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="14" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Wiki_letter_w_cropped.svg/30px-Wiki_letter_w_cropped.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Wiki_letter_w_cropped.svg/40px-Wiki_letter_w_cropped.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="44" data-file-height="31" /></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><div class="mbox-text-span"><b>This section is empty.</b> You can help by <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phil_Bates&action=edit&section=">adding to it</a>. <span class="date-container"><i>(<span class="date">August 2014</span>)</i></span></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Early_bands">Early bands</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Phil_Bates&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Early bands"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>In 1970, Bates joined Wolverhampton heavy-rock band, JUG, playing several stints at Glasgow's infamous Electric Garden on <a href="/wiki/Sauchiehall_Street" title="Sauchiehall Street">Sauchiehall Street</a>. Next was a complete musical reversal when Bates joined cabaret/folk band, Enigma, which was being groomed to challenge the New Seekers, by Morgan Music/Studios in London. Enigma became Quill in 1972, releasing a single 'Spent The Rent' on the EMI's Parlophone label. Next was a stint as a solo artist, with a publishing deal with Southern Music, and a single. 'Mr Hand Me Down' released under the name Billy Bates on <a href="/wiki/Spark_Records_(UK_label)" class="mw-redirect" title="Spark Records (UK label)">Spark Records</a> followed in 1974. In 1976, Bates put out 'Take to the Mountains' under the name, Billy Bates Company. During the 1970s, Bates established himself as a session musician on the London recording scene, doing sessions for Billy Ocean, Alvin Stardust ... and for producers like Steve Lillywhite, Colin Thurston and Tony Visconti, plus many TV and radio jingles. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Trickster">Trickster</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Phil_Bates&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Trickster"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>During a spell as a resident musician in London's Piccadilly at the Piazza restaurant, Bates formed Trickster. Trickster released one single, 'Flyaway', on the United Artists label before signing with ELO's record label, Jet Records, and being managed by the infamous <a href="/wiki/Don_Arden" title="Don Arden">Don Arden</a>. Several singles and two albums were released by Jet, 'Find the Lady' and 'Back to Zero'. Trickster enjoyed minor chart successes with the singles 'If That's The Way The Feeling Takes You' in the US, and 'I'm Satisfied' in the UK, and featured as support band on ELO's ground-breaking and spectacular 1978 Spaceship world tour. Trickster also appeared as <a href="/wiki/Boston_(band)" title="Boston (band)">Boston</a>'s "Special Guest" during their 1979 tour for "<a href="/wiki/Don%27t_Look_Back_(Boston_album)" title="Don't Look Back (Boston album)">Don't Look Back</a>". </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Quill_and_Don't_Panic"><span id="Quill_and_Don.27t_Panic"></span>Quill and Don't Panic</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Phil_Bates&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Quill and Don't Panic"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>In 1981, after Trickster left Jet Records label, Bates moved back to Birmingham and re-joined Quill (sometimes referred to as "Kwil"), where he met his 2nd wife, Josephine, with whom he later formed the band, Don't Panic. After a period writing songs for RCA/Arista Music, Don't Panic spent three years, 1987–1990, playing the hotel circuit in the United Arab Emirates, in Dubai and Abu Dhabi. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Atlantic">Atlantic</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Phil_Bates&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Atlantic"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Bates resumed solo work, and jingle writing/singing/playing at the Old Smithy Studios, Worcester, where he also became lead singer/songwriter and playing guitar, keyboards and bass with the AOR band, Atlantic. Atlantic released one CD, <i>Power</i>. Around the same time, Bates was the featured vocalist on the theme song for <i>The Gladiators</i> TV programme, and featured on several tracks of the accompanying gold-selling album. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="ELO_Part_II">ELO Part II</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Phil_Bates&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: ELO Part II"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>In 1993, Bates met up with old friend <a href="/wiki/Kelly_Groucutt" title="Kelly Groucutt">Kelly Groucutt</a>, who had been <a href="/wiki/ELO" class="mw-redirect" title="ELO">ELO</a> bassist, resulting in Bates joining ELO Part 2, replacing Pete Haycock and Neil Lockwood. ELO Part 2 took the music of ELO around the world, often playing with symphony orchestras in large venues around the globe. Extensive touring in Australia, New Zealand, Argentina, Brazil, Peru, Chile, US, Canada, Latvia, Lithuania, Russia, Poland, Czechoslovakia, South Africa, UK followed ... until 1999, when Bates quit to spend more time with his family, and to study for a degree. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Solo_work_and_recent_career">Solo work and recent career</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Phil_Bates&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Solo work and recent career"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>After supporting his studies with all manner of gigs, stints in call centres, and a period as a bookseller in Hay-on-Wye, Bates graduated from the University of Wales in 2003 with a History BA Hons. The solo albums 'Naked' and 'Agony & Ecstasy' were released in 1996 and 1998, plus tours of the UK and Germany with <a href="/wiki/Mik_Kaminski" title="Mik Kaminski">Mik Kaminski</a>. Two further solo albums, <i>Alter Ego</i> (2003) and <i>One Sky</i> (2005) followed. All released on Bates's own labels, DPP, and latterly Essential Music. A compilation CD <i>Retrospectiv</i>, also on Essential, was released in 2007. </p><p>After leaving ELO Part 2, Bates became a member of the Eleanor Rigby Experience, along with Andy Bole, Maartin Allcock, Clive Bunker and Tina McBain, who released 2 CDs and toured extensively in the UK. A short stint with The Bev Bevan Band and "Bev Bevan's Move" followed (2003/2005), along with the formation in the same year of German-based band, ELB (Electric Light Band). In 2007, Bates rejoined his old mates from ELO Part 2 in The Orchestra (featuring members of ELO and Part 2). </p><p>In 2008, Bates formed the Beatles, Blues and Blue Violin project (BBBV) with <a href="/wiki/Mik_Kaminski" title="Mik Kaminski">Mik Kaminski</a> and Tina McBain, resulting in a tour, and the 2010 BBBV album. </p><p>In 2022 and 2023, Bates is still gigging extensively with his "Tribute to ELO" throughout Europe as "Phil Bates and Band". He has often appeared live on German, Swiss and Polish TV playing ELO songs. He plays guitar and several other instruments on <a href="/wiki/Les_Penning" title="Les Penning">Les Penning</a>'s album <i>Belerion</i>, which was released in December 2016. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="References">References</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Phil_Bates&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: References"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239543626">.mw-parser-output .reflist{margin-bottom:0.5em;list-style-type:decimal}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .reflist{font-size:90%}}.mw-parser-output .reflist .references{font-size:100%;margin-bottom:0;list-style-type:inherit}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-2{column-width:30em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns-3{column-width:25em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns{margin-top:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns ol{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .reflist-columns li{page-break-inside:avoid;break-inside:avoid-column}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-alpha{list-style-type:upper-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-upper-roman{list-style-type:upper-roman}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-alpha{list-style-type:lower-alpha}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-greek{list-style-type:lower-greek}.mw-parser-output .reflist-lower-roman{list-style-type:lower-roman}</style><div class="reflist"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-Face-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-Face_1-0">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.face-the-music.de/phil_e.html">"Phil Bates"</a>. <i>Face-the-music.de</i><span class="reference-accessdate">. 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