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href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Idw/lang&amp;action=edit">+/−</a></small></span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Phso2" title="User:Phso2">Phso2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Phso2" title="User talk:Phso2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-Phso2-2019-12-11T12:55:00.000Z-File:Blason_famille_Bruyères.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 11 December 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Phso2-2019-12-11T12:55:00.000Z-File:Blason_famille_Bruyères.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-11T12:55:00.000Z","author":"Phso2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Phso2-2019-12-11T12:55:00.000Z-File:Blason_famille_Bruy\u00e8res.svg","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Phso2-2019-12-11T12:55:00.000Z-File:Blason_famille_Bruyères.svg"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Blason famille fr Billiet&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Blason famille fr Billiet&quot;}--><h2 id="Blason_famille_fr_Billiet" data-mw-thread-id="h-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z"></span>Blason famille fr Billiet<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SanglierT&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Blason famille fr Billiet"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-SanglierT-2020-10-18T13:33:00.000Z-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z","timestamp":"2020-10-18T13:33:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Blason famille fr Billiet&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Blason famille fr Billiet&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet"></span>Bonjour, </p><p>Je viens de tomber sur <a href="/wiki/File:Blason_famille_fr_Billiet.svg" title="File:Blason famille fr Billiet.svg">cette image</a> dont vous êtes l'auteur, semble-t-il. </p><p>Je me demande s'il n'y aurait pas une petite erreur. En effet, le blasonnement indique que les têtes de maure sont tortillées du champ. Or le champ est d'azur mais dans l'image, les tortils sont d'argent (couleur du chef). </p><p>A votre avis, petite erreur de représentation ou blasonnement incorrect ? <a href="/wiki/User:Jpgibert" title="User:Jpgibert">Jpgibert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jpgibert" title="User talk:Jpgibert"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:00, 18 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z","author":"Jpgibert","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet","replies":["c-SanglierT-2020-10-18T13:33:00.000Z-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z-Blason_famille_fr_Billiet"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SanglierT-2020-10-18T13:33:00.000Z-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z"></span>Bonjour, le champ du chef étant d'argent, il me semble qu'il n'y a pas d'erreur. J'avoue que cette image ne semble même plus utilisé et je ne souvient plus des circonstances dans lesquelles je l'ai réalisé. Cordialement <a href="/wiki/User:SanglierT" title="User:SanglierT">Mathieu C.</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-SanglierT-2020-10-18T13:33:00.000Z-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:33, 18 October 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SanglierT-2020-10-18T13:33:00.000Z-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-18T13:33:00.000Z","author":"SanglierT","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SanglierT-2020-10-18T13:33:00.000Z-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Mathieu C."}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SanglierT-2020-10-18T13:33:00.000Z-Jpgibert-2020-10-18T13:00:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Giorgio_Pallavicini-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Italian_coa-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Giorgio_Pallavicini-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z-Italian_coa&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Italian coa&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Italian coa&quot;}--><h2 id="Italian_coa" data-mw-thread-id="h-Italian_coa-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Italian_coa-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z"></span>Italian coa<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Italian_coa-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SanglierT&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: Italian coa"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Giorgio_Pallavicini-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Italian_coa-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Giorgio_Pallavicini-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z-Italian_coa"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Giorgio_Pallavicini-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z-Italian_coa","timestamp":"2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Giorgio_Pallavicini-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Italian_coa-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Giorgio_Pallavicini-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z-Italian_coa&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Italian coa&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Italian coa&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Giorgio_Pallavicini-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z-Italian_coa"></span>hi, I wanted to ask you a favor, would you like to take a look at the coats of arms of some Italian noble families that you find in the link below? A thousand thanks </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progetto:Laboratorio_grafico/Immagini_da_migliorare#Stemmi_italiani">https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progetto:Laboratorio_grafico/Immagini_da_migliorare#Stemmi_italiani</a> Now it may be ok. Can you see it? Thanks (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giorgio_Pallavicini" title="User talk:Giorgio Pallavicini"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-Giorgio_Pallavicini-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z-Italian_coa" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 8 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Giorgio_Pallavicini-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z-Italian_coa"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z","author":"Giorgio Pallavicini","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Giorgio_Pallavicini-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z-Italian_coa","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Giorgio_Pallavicini-2021-09-08T14:01:00.000Z-Italian_coa"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-149.20.196.127-20230105141500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms-20230105141500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-149.20.196.127-20230105141500-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Eugene Tisserant Coat of Arms&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Eugene Tisserant Coat of Arms&quot;}--><h2 id="Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms" data-mw-thread-id="h-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms-20230105141500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms-20230105141500"></span>Eugene Tisserant Coat of Arms<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms-20230105141500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SanglierT&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: Eugene Tisserant Coat of Arms"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-149.20.196.127-20230105141500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms-20230105141500","replies":["c-149.20.196.127-20230105141500-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-SanglierT-20230406173500-2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C-20230403102000","timestamp":"20230406173500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-149.20.196.127-20230105141500&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms-20230105141500&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-149.20.196.127-20230105141500-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Eugene Tisserant Coat of Arms&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Eugene Tisserant Coat of Arms&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-149.20.196.127-20230105141500-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms"></span>I’m researching my family line and have found that Eugene Tisserant is my ancestor. Can you tell me how you found this coat of arms? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/149.20.196.127" title="Special:Contributions/149.20.196.127">149.20.196.127</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-149.20.196.127-20230105141500-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 5 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-149.20.196.127-20230105141500-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230105141500","author":"149.20.196.127","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-149.20.196.127-20230105141500-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms","replies":["c-SanglierT-20230105173200-149.20.196.127-20230105141500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-149.20.196.127-20230105141500-Eugene_Tisserant_Coat_of_Arms"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SanglierT-20230105173200-149.20.196.127-20230105141500"></span>Sorry to say that but I really doubt, as Mgr Eugene Tisserant was a Cardinal, so he wasn't ancestor of someone. And that's personnal arms, not family ones, so not inheritable by collaterals. Best regards. <a href="/wiki/User:SanglierT" title="User:SanglierT">Mathieu C.</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-SanglierT-20230105173200-149.20.196.127-20230105141500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 5 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SanglierT-20230105173200-149.20.196.127-20230105141500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230105173200","author":"SanglierT","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SanglierT-20230105173200-149.20.196.127-20230105141500","replies":["c-2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C-20230403102000-SanglierT-20230105173200"],"displayName":"Mathieu C."}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SanglierT-20230105173200-149.20.196.127-20230105141500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C-20230403102000-SanglierT-20230105173200"></span>Thank you for the reply and I’m sorry it’s been such a long time since I’ve responded but—-how did you find this coat of arms? The research I’ve been conducting shows my family name changing from Tisserant to Ticeran with this man being one of the progenitors. It would help with my research if you can share your source for this coat of arms. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C" title="Special:Contributions/2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C">2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C-20230403102000-SanglierT-20230105173200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:20, 3 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C-20230403102000-SanglierT-20230105173200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230403102000","author":"2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C-20230403102000-SanglierT-20230105173200","replies":["c-SanglierT-20230406173500-2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C-20230403102000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C-20230403102000-SanglierT-20230105173200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SanglierT-20230406173500-2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C-20230403102000"></span>Again he's definitly not your ancestor <a class="external text" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Tisserant">Eugène Tisserant</a>, you probably make some "shortcut" with someone who had the same name, the Eugène Tisserant for which I draw arms was a roman catholic priest and cardinal so he definitly have no child <a class="external autonumber" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Tisserant">[1]</a>. End of the story. Good luck for your research. <a href="/wiki/User:SanglierT" title="User:SanglierT">Mathieu C.</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-SanglierT-20230406173500-2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C-20230403102000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 6 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SanglierT-20230406173500-2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C-20230403102000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230406173500","author":"SanglierT","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-SanglierT-20230406173500-2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C-20230403102000","replies":[],"displayName":"Mathieu C."}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SanglierT-20230406173500-2603:6011:DC3E:9A25:A07E:EA2C:C4D6:775C-20230403102000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Anastasy.n-20221119202900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Question-20221119202900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Anastasy.n-20221119202900-Question&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Question&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Question&quot;}--><h2 id="Question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question-20221119202900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question-20221119202900"></span>Question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question-20221119202900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SanglierT&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: Question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Anastasy.n-20221119202900","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Question-20221119202900","replies":["c-Anastasy.n-20221119202900-Question"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Anastasy.n-20221119202900-Question","timestamp":"20221119202900"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Anastasy.n-20221119202900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Question-20221119202900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Anastasy.n-20221119202900-Question&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Question&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Question&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anastasy.n-20221119202900-Question"></span>Bonjour Je l’appelle Nicolas Anasatasy Sauriez vous m’en dire plus sur ce blason que vous avez créé ? Merci beaucoup. Bien à vous , Nicolas <small class="autosigned" lang="en" dir="ltr">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Commons:Signatures" title="Commons:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <bdi><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Anastasy.n&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Anastasy.n (page does not exist)">Anastasy.n</a></bdi> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anastasy.n" title="User talk:Anastasy.n">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Anastasy.n" title="Special:Contributions/Anastasy.n">contribs</a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-Anastasy.n-20221119202900-Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:29, 19 November 2022 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anastasy.n-20221119202900-Question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-Belysarius-20230314092900&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg-20230314092900&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-Belysarius-20230314092900-Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Blason Famille Garnier 1.svg&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Blason Famille Garnier 1.svg&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Belysarius-20230314092900-Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg"></span>Bonjour SanglierT,<br/> Merci beaucoup pour l'import de ces blasons <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg/30px-Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg/45px-Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg/60px-Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="660"/></a></span> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Blason_Famille_Garnier_de_La_Barreyre.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Blason_Famille_Garnier_de_La_Barreyre.svg/30px-Blason_Famille_Garnier_de_La_Barreyre.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Blason_Famille_Garnier_de_La_Barreyre.svg/45px-Blason_Famille_Garnier_de_La_Barreyre.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Blason_Famille_Garnier_de_La_Barreyre.svg/60px-Blason_Famille_Garnier_de_La_Barreyre.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="660"/></a></span> dont la conception est certainement inspirée de l'armorial du Vivarais de Marc Gauer qui cite l'armorial d'Hozier. Pourtant l'armorial d'Hozier donne des blasons différents <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k111467n/f620.image">https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k111467n/f620.image</a> et <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k111467n/f258.image">https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k111467n/f258.image</a>. On voit dans l'armorial d'Hozier que ce n'est pas le coeur lui-même qui est enflammé mais l'empennage de chacune des flèches. <br/>Très cordialement, <br/><a href="/wiki/User:Belysarius" title="User:Belysarius">Belysarius</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Belysarius" title="User talk:Belysarius"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-Belysarius-20230314092900-Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:29, 14 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Belysarius-20230314092900-Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230314092900","author":"Belysarius","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Belysarius-20230314092900-Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg","replies":["c-SanglierT-20230314185000-Belysarius-20230314092900"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Belysarius-20230314092900-Blason_Famille_Garnier_1.svg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SanglierT-20230314185000-Belysarius-20230314092900"></span>Bonjour Belysarius,</dd> <dd>Je me suis basé à l'époque sur l'Armorial du Vivarais de Benoit Florentin d'Entrevaux, à l'époque Marc Gauer n'avait pas encore fait le sien!! Mais il a sans doute utilisé la même source que moi. Cependant je ne touche plus à mes anciens dessins et publie le moins possible (hormis les évêques) sur commons. Donc si quelqu'un se sent l'envie de modifier les dessins que j'avais réalisé je lui laisse cela avec plaisir.</dd> <dd>Cordialement</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:SanglierT" title="User:SanglierT">Mathieu C.</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-SanglierT-20230314185000-Belysarius-20230314092900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 14 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SanglierT-20230314185000-Belysarius-20230314092900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230314185000","author":"SanglierT","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SanglierT-20230314185000-Belysarius-20230314092900","replies":[],"displayName":"Mathieu C."}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SanglierT-20230314185000-Belysarius-20230314092900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-C2b2v-20230630070400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Armoiries_famille_Courbis-20230630070400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-C2b2v-20230630070400-Armoiries_famille_Courbis&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Armoiries famille Courbis&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Armoiries famille Courbis&quot;}--><h2 id="Armoiries_famille_Courbis" data-mw-thread-id="h-Armoiries_famille_Courbis-20230630070400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Armoiries_famille_Courbis-20230630070400"></span>Armoiries famille Courbis<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Armoiries_famille_Courbis-20230630070400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SanglierT&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8" title="Edit section: Armoiries famille Courbis"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-C2b2v-20230630070400","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Armoiries_famille_Courbis-20230630070400","replies":["c-C2b2v-20230630070400-Armoiries_famille_Courbis"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-SanglierT-20230701092400-C2b2v-20230701091000","timestamp":"20230701092400"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-C2b2v-20230630070400&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Armoiries_famille_Courbis-20230630070400&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-C2b2v-20230630070400-Armoiries_famille_Courbis&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Armoiries famille Courbis&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Armoiries famille Courbis&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C2b2v-20230630070400-Armoiries_famille_Courbis"></span>Bonjour </p><p>Je me permets de vous contacter car vous êtes l'auteur des <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Courbis.svg">anciennes armoiries de ma famille</a>. Suite à un relèvement de nom éteint nous avons modifié nos armoiries comme suit : "<i>De gueules à la fasce d’or accompagnée de trois lionceaux du même posés 2 et 1 écartelé d’azur à la bande d’or avec en chef une croisette fourchée du même</i>" (ce qui donne <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.courbis.org/img/avec_devise.jpg">ceci</a>). </p><p>Si vous avez un peu de temps, ce serais très sympa de votre part de créer ces armoiries au format Wikipedia/svg </p><p>Bien cordialement <a href="/wiki/User:C2b2v" title="User:C2b2v">C2b2v</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:C2b2v" title="User talk:C2b2v"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-C2b2v-20230630070400-Armoiries_famille_Courbis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:04, 30 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C2b2v-20230630070400-Armoiries_famille_Courbis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230630070400","author":"C2b2v","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-C2b2v-20230630070400-Armoiries_famille_Courbis","replies":["c-SanglierT-20230701071900-C2b2v-20230630070400"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C2b2v-20230630070400-Armoiries_famille_Courbis"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SanglierT-20230701071900-C2b2v-20230630070400"></span>Bonjour, j'ai dessiné ces armes il y a longtemps en me basant sur l'armorial de Florentin d'Entrevaux. Les illustrations sur wikipedia doivent se baser sur des sources externes, de plus je ne dessine plus que rarement et uniquement des armoiries ecclésiastiques pour illustrer l'encyclopédie. <a href="/wiki/User:SanglierT" title="User:SanglierT">Mathieu C.</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-SanglierT-20230701071900-C2b2v-20230630070400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:19, 1 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SanglierT-20230701071900-C2b2v-20230630070400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230701071900","author":"SanglierT","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SanglierT-20230701071900-C2b2v-20230630070400","replies":["c-C2b2v-20230701091000-SanglierT-20230701071900"],"displayName":"Mathieu C."}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SanglierT-20230701071900-C2b2v-20230630070400"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C2b2v-20230701091000-SanglierT-20230701071900"></span>Merci pour votre réponse. En source externe je peux citer l'ouvrage "La noblesse française" d'Arnaud Clément.̴<a href="/wiki/User:C2b2v" title="User:C2b2v">C2b2v</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:C2b2v" title="User talk:C2b2v"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-C2b2v-20230701091000-SanglierT-20230701071900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:10, 1 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C2b2v-20230701091000-SanglierT-20230701071900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230701091000","author":"C2b2v","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-C2b2v-20230701091000-SanglierT-20230701071900","replies":["c-SanglierT-20230701092400-C2b2v-20230701091000"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C2b2v-20230701091000-SanglierT-20230701071900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SanglierT-20230701092400-C2b2v-20230701091000"></span>Merci pour cette source externe, mais cela ne change pas le fait que je ne dessine plus pour wikipedia (sauf exceptions ecclésiastiques), pour des raisons de licence et d'irrespect. Essayez en faisant une requête sur le projet blason. Cordialement <a href="/wiki/User:SanglierT" title="User:SanglierT">Mathieu C.</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-SanglierT-20230701092400-C2b2v-20230701091000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:24, 1 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SanglierT-20230701092400-C2b2v-20230701091000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230701092400","author":"SanglierT","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-SanglierT-20230701092400-C2b2v-20230701091000","replies":[],"displayName":"Mathieu C."}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SanglierT-20230701092400-C2b2v-20230701091000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Armoiries_famille_lagarde-20240908055600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600-Armoiries_famille_lagarde&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Armoiries famille lagarde&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Armoiries famille lagarde&quot;}--><h2 id="Armoiries_famille_lagarde" data-mw-thread-id="h-Armoiries_famille_lagarde-20240908055600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Armoiries_famille_lagarde-20240908055600"></span>Armoiries famille lagarde<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Armoiries_famille_lagarde-20240908055600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SanglierT&amp;action=edit&amp;section=9" title="Edit section: Armoiries famille lagarde"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Armoiries_famille_lagarde-20240908055600","replies":["c-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600-Armoiries_famille_lagarde"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-SanglierT-20240908073300-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600","timestamp":"20240908073300"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{&quot;headingLevel&quot;:2,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;h-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;heading&quot;,&quot;level&quot;:0,&quot;id&quot;:&quot;h-Armoiries_famille_lagarde-20240908055600&quot;,&quot;replies&quot;:[&quot;c-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600-Armoiries_famille_lagarde&quot;],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Armoiries famille lagarde&quot;,&quot;linkableTitle&quot;:&quot;Armoiries famille lagarde&quot;}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600-Armoiries_famille_lagarde"></span>Bonjour Sanglier T J'aimerai en savoir plus sur le blason de la famille Lagarde, avec un cerf surmonté de trois étoiles. Comment faire pour contacter quelqu'un de cette famille en France svp, pouvez vous m'aider? Merci, louisgardey@gmail.com <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601" title="Special:Contributions/2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601">2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SanglierT#c-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600-Armoiries_famille_lagarde" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600-Armoiries_famille_lagarde"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240908055600","author":"2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600-Armoiries_famille_lagarde","replies":["c-SanglierT-20240908073300-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600-Armoiries_famille_lagarde"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SanglierT-20240908073300-2A02:8440:C111:502F:0:49:EB9B:9601-20240908055600"></span>Bonjour, j'ai réalisé ces armes en me basant sur l'armorial de Benoit d'Entrevaux, vous trouverez sur <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1910140g/f297.item">ce lien</a> la notice correspondante, je n'ai aucun contact ou information concernant les membres encore vivant de cette famille. 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