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srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/80px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">For the sake of expedience and ease of reading: <ul><li>If you leave me a message here, I’ll reply here. If the matter requires some expedience, I’ll probably place the {{talkback}} template on your page to notify you of my reply.</li> <li>Likewise, if I leave you a message on your talkpage, the conversation should take place there.</li></ul></td></tr></tbody></table> <p><span style="font-size: 8pt;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil/Archive_1" title="User talk:TheHerbalGerbil/Archive 1">Archive 1</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil/Archive_2" title="User talk:TheHerbalGerbil/Archive 2">Archive 2</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil/Archive_3" title="User talk:TheHerbalGerbil/Archive 3">Archive 3</a></span> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Translation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Translation-2009-05-11T06:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Translation-2009-05-11T06:57:00.000Z"></span>Translation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Translation-2009-05-11T06:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Translation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ceedjee-2009-05-11T06:57:00.000Z-Translation"></span>Salut TheHerbalGerbil,<br/> Merci pour ta proposition !<br/> </p><p>En quelques mots :<br/> Je suis l'auteur principal de l'article <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batailles_de_Latroun_(1948)" class="extiw" title="fr:Batailles de Latroun (1948)">fr:Batailles de Latroun (1948)</a> qui est AdQ (FA) sur la wikipedia francophone.<br/> Depuis une dizaine de mois, j'essaies de le faire traduire vers <a href="/wiki/Battles_of_Latrun" class="mw-redirect" title="Battles of Latrun">en:Battles of Latrun</a>.<br/> It is not easy for me because my level in English is not good enough to translate small nuances. I can do the job from "English" to "French" and I understand the nuances but I cannot from "French" to "English" !<br/> Si tu es intéressé par participer, tu es le bienvenu :-)<br/> Merci, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ceedjee&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ceedjee (page does not exist)">Ceedjee</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ceedjee&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Ceedjee (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Ceedjee-2009-05-11T06:57:00.000Z-Translation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:57, 11 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ceedjee-2009-05-11T06:57:00.000Z-Translation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ceedjee-2009-05-11T06:57:00.000Z-Translation"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SimonTrew-2009-05-12T13:54:00.000Z-Translation"></span>Oui, c'est bon, un menage-a-trois! </p><p>Je peut faire francais -> anglais mais ni l'autrefois. Je pense, c'est mieux si les francophones faire les refs etc et je fais la traduction. Il fault also make sure that je n'ai pas mettre les erreurs factuelles. </p><p>Excusez-moi mon francais affreux, je peut pas comprendre assez bien mais parce-que je ne utile souvement, je trompe en ecriver. </p><p>Peut-etre son avis: J'ai traduit <a href="/wiki/L%C3%A9on_Gard" title="Léon Gard">Léon Gard</a> et un francais, le fils du peintre, est tres heureux! C'est bon! Je ne suis pas sur traduire les titres de les oeuvres ou rester en francais? Quest-ce-que vous pensez? <a href="/wiki/User:SimonTrew" title="User:SimonTrew">SimonTrew</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SimonTrew" title="User talk:SimonTrew">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-SimonTrew-2009-05-12T13:54:00.000Z-Translation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:54, 12 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SimonTrew-2009-05-12T13:54:00.000Z-Translation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SimonTrew-2009-05-12T13:54:00.000Z-Translation"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SimonTrew-2009-05-12T13:59:00.000Z-Translation"></span>May I suggest we move these discussions onto the talk page of the article itself? It will keep it in one place and also help keep the history of the article (not of the subject, but of the article's creation) all together? <a href="/wiki/User:SimonTrew" title="User:SimonTrew">SimonTrew</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SimonTrew" title="User talk:SimonTrew">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-SimonTrew-2009-05-12T13:59:00.000Z-Translation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SimonTrew-2009-05-12T13:59:00.000Z-Translation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SimonTrew-2009-05-12T13:59:00.000Z-Translation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SimonTrew-2009-05-14T11:50:00.000Z-SimonTrew-2009-05-12T13:59:00.000Z"></span>If you use AWB could you maybe scan over the article, only a couple of sections left to do. <a href="/wiki/User:SimonTrew" title="User:SimonTrew">SimonTrew</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SimonTrew" title="User talk:SimonTrew">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-SimonTrew-2009-05-14T11:50:00.000Z-SimonTrew-2009-05-12T13:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SimonTrew-2009-05-14T11:50:00.000Z-SimonTrew-2009-05-12T13:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SimonTrew-2009-05-14T11:50:00.000Z-SimonTrew-2009-05-12T13:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SimonTrew-2009-05-14T17:39:00.000Z-SimonTrew-2009-05-14T11:50:00.000Z"></span>Have finished doing the remaining sections obviously needs someone else to go over it. Doing it oneself, one can't see the meat for the potatoes sometimes.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>The next major task is fixing the refs Ceedjee says he will do this at the weekend. <a href="/wiki/User:SimonTrew" title="User:SimonTrew">SimonTrew</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SimonTrew" title="User talk:SimonTrew">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-SimonTrew-2009-05-14T17:39:00.000Z-SimonTrew-2009-05-14T11:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SimonTrew-2009-05-14T17:39:00.000Z-SimonTrew-2009-05-14T11:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SimonTrew-2009-05-14T17:39:00.000Z-SimonTrew-2009-05-14T11:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_cyber-thuggery_clouds_your_judgement" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_cyber-thuggery_clouds_your_judgement-2009-07-02T23:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_cyber-thuggery_clouds_your_judgement-2009-07-02T23:56:00.000Z"></span>The cyber-thuggery clouds your judgement<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_cyber-thuggery_clouds_your_judgement-2009-07-02T23:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: The cyber-thuggery clouds your judgement"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-12.36.128.89-2009-07-02T23:56:00.000Z-The_cyber-thuggery_clouds_your_judgement"></span>Your continued incivility at controversial sites like PETA, Homeopathy, 9/11 Truth Movement and others, is unwelcome in the wikicommunity.<br/> It is precisely because of thuggery like yours that wikipedia has evolved into a big joke.<br/> or little joke, really. <br/> a little pond and you just want to be a big fish here in the worst way.<br/> the weird thing is, you have fleeting moments of reasonableness and constructive contributions.<br/> Perhaps you are schizophrenic. Or just a child lashing out when you dont get your way.<br/> its just too bad that your petty bickering trumps the good side.<br/> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/12.36.128.89" title="Special:Contributions/12.36.128.89">12.36.128.89</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:12.36.128.89" title="User talk:12.36.128.89">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-12.36.128.89-2009-07-02T23:56:00.000Z-The_cyber-thuggery_clouds_your_judgement" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:56, 2 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-12.36.128.89-2009-07-02T23:56:00.000Z-The_cyber-thuggery_clouds_your_judgement"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-12.36.128.89-2009-07-02T23:56:00.000Z-The_cyber-thuggery_clouds_your_judgement"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-03T00:09:00.000Z-12.36.128.89-2009-07-02T23:56:00.000Z"></span>I’m sorry, have we dated? — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-03T00:09:00.000Z-12.36.128.89-2009-07-02T23:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:09, 3 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-03T00:09:00.000Z-12.36.128.89-2009-07-02T23:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-03T00:09:00.000Z-12.36.128.89-2009-07-02T23:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abce2-2009-07-03T00:51:00.000Z-The_cyber-thuggery_clouds_your_judgement"></span>Do worry, it's been resolved on the admins incedent board.<a href="/wiki/User:Abce2" title="User:Abce2"><span style="font-family:Fantasy; color:#36F;">Abce2</span></a>|<small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abce2" title="User talk:Abce2"><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#09A;"><i>Free Lemonade</i></span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Abce2" title="Special:Contributions/Abce2"><span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#FA1;"><i>Only 25 cents!</i></span></a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Abce2-2009-07-03T00:51:00.000Z-The_cyber-thuggery_clouds_your_judgement" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abce2-2009-07-03T00:51:00.000Z-The_cyber-thuggery_clouds_your_judgement"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abce2-2009-07-03T00:51:00.000Z-The_cyber-thuggery_clouds_your_judgement"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tryptofish-2009-07-03T19:24:00.000Z-Abce2-2009-07-03T00:51:00.000Z"></span>Hi NRen. I have an eerie feeling I once dated someone like that too! (joke) And I thought I had it bad. Sorry you're getting this stuff. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Tryptofish-2009-07-03T19:24:00.000Z-Abce2-2009-07-03T00:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tryptofish-2009-07-03T19:24:00.000Z-Abce2-2009-07-03T00:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tryptofish-2009-07-03T19:24:00.000Z-Abce2-2009-07-03T00:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hasn't_been_proven?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hasn't_been_proven?-2009-07-06T02:16:00.000Z"><span id="Hasn.27t_been_proven.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hasn't_been_proven?-2009-07-06T02:16:00.000Z"></span>Hasn't been proven?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hasn't_been_proven?-2009-07-06T02:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Hasn't been proven?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:16:00.000Z-Hasn't_been_proven?"></span>Your statement, this, at 911Truth, caught my interest? </p><p><b>Except that the official story hasn’t been proven to be full of holes and based on thin evidence.</b> </p><p>It catches my interest because it looks like an all-encompassing <b>negative</b> claim about what has <b>not</b> been proven. It makes me wonder how anyone could have arrived at such a conclusion, rationally, without having read all the books and watched documentaries that exist? If you have done so, I wish you had said so on the talk page, to make your comment more credible or understandable. Perhaps you are saying that mainstream media has only begun to identify the holes in the 911 Commission Report. Have you read this NYT article? </p><p>NYT <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/25/nyregion/a-nation-challenged-the-towers-experts-urging-broader-inquiry-in-towers-fall.html">Experts urge broader inquiry</a> Government engineers find high temperatures puzzling (and criticize their own investigation) --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ihaveabutt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ihaveabutt (page does not exist)">Ihaveabutt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ihaveabutt" title="User talk:Ihaveabutt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:16:00.000Z-Hasn't_been_proven?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:16, 6 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:16:00.000Z-Hasn't_been_proven?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:16:00.000Z-Hasn't_been_proven?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:03:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:16:00.000Z"></span>The investigations already carried out answer the important questions: How and why the towers collapsed. No matter how much you rant and point at puffs of smoke, hot spots and paint chips, it won’t change those answers. Anyway, your article is from December 2001. Maybe you think things have only gotten worse for the “official story” since then? I think they got better. — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:03:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:03:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:03:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rust,_aluminum_and_paint_chips_?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rust,_aluminum_and_paint_chips_?-2009-07-06T02:26:00.000Z"><span id="Rust.2C_aluminum_and_paint_chips_.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rust,_aluminum_and_paint_chips_?-2009-07-06T02:26:00.000Z"></span>Rust, aluminum and paint chips ?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rust,_aluminum_and_paint_chips_?-2009-07-06T02:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Rust, aluminum and paint chips ?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:26:00.000Z-Rust,_aluminum_and_paint_chips_?"></span>At 911Truth you ask: </p><p><b>Maybe you’d like to explain how finding rust, aluminum and paint chips in a skyscraper collapse supports controlled demolition? </b> </p><p>I fail to see how that could be regarded as a serious summary of someone's academic paper, or as someone's view. Anyway, this other paper is probably scientifically less technical, and likely a better starting point for the possible discussion you might welcome. </p><p>TITLE Fourteen Points of Agreement with Official Government Reports on the World Trade Center Destruction </p><p>QUOTE Reports by FEMA and NIST lay out the official account of the destruction of the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001. In this Letter, we wish to set a foundation for productive discussion and understanding by focusing on those areas where we find common ground with FEMA and NIST, while at the same time countering several popular myths about the WTC collapses. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCIEJ/2008/00000002/00000001/35TOCIEJ.SGM">http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCIEJ/2008/00000002/00000001/35TOCIEJ.SGM</a> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ihaveabutt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ihaveabutt (page does not exist)">Ihaveabutt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ihaveabutt" title="User talk:Ihaveabutt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:26:00.000Z-Rust,_aluminum_and_paint_chips_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:26, 6 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:26:00.000Z-Rust,_aluminum_and_paint_chips_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:26:00.000Z-Rust,_aluminum_and_paint_chips_?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:09:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:26:00.000Z"></span>Not much better than the nanothermite paper. At least not completely ridiculous. But why do you think you need to slam a paper on my desk? Are you trying to force some kind of discussion? Do you really think there’s any discussion to be had other than to have it explained to you for the thousandth time why your conspiracy theories are ridiculous? Look, if you want to question what happened on 9/11, that’s your prerogative. Just don’t browbeat and bullshit the rest of us into going along with you. — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:09:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:09, 6 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:09:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:09:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="That’s_just_fucking_surreal!" data-mw-thread-id="h-That’s_just_fucking_surreal!-2009-07-06T02:27:00.000Z"><span id="That.E2.80.99s_just_fucking_surreal.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-That’s_just_fucking_surreal!-2009-07-06T02:27:00.000Z"></span>That’s just fucking surreal!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-That’s_just_fucking_surreal!-2009-07-06T02:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: That’s just fucking surreal!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:27:00.000Z-That’s_just_fucking_surreal!"></span>Those are your words at 911Truth, right? </p><p>I don't see how that counts as professionally, reasonably, providing information. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ihaveabutt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ihaveabutt (page does not exist)">Ihaveabutt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ihaveabutt" title="User talk:Ihaveabutt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:27:00.000Z-That’s_just_fucking_surreal!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:27:00.000Z-That’s_just_fucking_surreal!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:27:00.000Z-That’s_just_fucking_surreal!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:11:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:27:00.000Z"></span>I don’t remember being contracted to professionally, reasonably provide information. The information’s already out there. All you need to do is find it. I’m happy to direct people to it if it pleases them. I’m even happier to choose misinformation to smack down at my whim. — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:11:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:11, 6 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:11:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:11:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Established_truthers" data-mw-thread-id="h-Established_truthers-2009-07-06T02:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Established_truthers-2009-07-06T02:33:00.000Z"></span>Established truthers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Established_truthers-2009-07-06T02:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Established truthers"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:33:00.000Z-Established_truthers"></span>At 911Truth you claim that certain authors are "established truthers". </p><p>To say an author is an "established truther" in itself only raises a possible concern, it doesn't establish that the concern is valid or problemmatic. They are not being paid by government or industry to writer those papers. Remember, in the NYT article, it is government scientists themselves that raise doubts about their study. You are welcome to read the article and share your thoughts. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ihaveabutt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ihaveabutt (page does not exist)">Ihaveabutt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ihaveabutt" title="User talk:Ihaveabutt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:33:00.000Z-Established_truthers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:33, 6 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:33:00.000Z-Established_truthers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:33:00.000Z-Established_truthers"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:19:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:33:00.000Z"></span>Working for the government is one thing, but forming your conclusion before you’ve even started an experiment is something else entirely. Jones <i>et al</i> began with the assumption that the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition, and then grasped at straws to find something – <b>anything</b> – that would “prove” controlled demolition. That isn’t academic. It’s not even serious. — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:19:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:19:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:19:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T02:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_blog_regarding_reliability_of_Bentham" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_blog_regarding_reliability_of_Bentham-2009-07-06T03:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_blog_regarding_reliability_of_Bentham-2009-07-06T03:36:00.000Z"></span>The blog regarding reliability of Bentham<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_blog_regarding_reliability_of_Bentham-2009-07-06T03:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: The blog regarding reliability of Bentham"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T03:36:00.000Z-The_blog_regarding_reliability_of_Bentham"></span>The post you refer to regarding Bentham seems to be on a personal or informal blog. I find it hard to take this seriously as a source regarding Bentham. Now, you might well be able to argue that a certain journal is not prestigious, or has had a flaw of some sort. </p><p>But such a case would merely place this journal in the fine company of the NY Times, featuring the likes of Judith Miller and Jason Blair. In other words, reliability needs to look at the context pretty closely. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ihaveabutt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ihaveabutt (page does not exist)">Ihaveabutt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ihaveabutt" title="User talk:Ihaveabutt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T03:36:00.000Z-The_blog_regarding_reliability_of_Bentham" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:36, 6 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T03:36:00.000Z-The_blog_regarding_reliability_of_Bentham"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T03:36:00.000Z-The_blog_regarding_reliability_of_Bentham"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:26:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T03:36:00.000Z"></span>The author understood people might have trouble taking it seriously, so he made sure to source all the quotations he provided. Of course there will always be some people stupid enough to accept or deny something so quickly. — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:26:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T03:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:26, 6 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:26:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T03:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:26:00.000Z-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-06T03:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-07T04:03:00.000Z-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:26:00.000Z"></span>Part of the second sentence ("always") is unclear to me, but I'll take the general thrust. What do you mean the author made sure to source all the quotations he provided? When I saw it was a blog I didn't look closely. Are you saying he refers to sources on that page? That info in the discussion would have been useful. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ihaveabutt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ihaveabutt (page does not exist)">Ihaveabutt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ihaveabutt" title="User talk:Ihaveabutt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-07T04:03:00.000Z-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:03, 7 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-07T04:03:00.000Z-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-07T04:03:00.000Z-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-07T04:03:00.000Z-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:26:00.000Z-1"></span>By the way, in a nearby discussion, I can't tell whether a certain comment "Reverse-worked bullshit" was the commenter after you, or part of your comment. I don't assume the page was changed and I must have been mistaken in inferring the signature. So, I have added my correction to show my prior understanding was probably mistaken. Apologies for the confusion. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ihaveabutt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ihaveabutt (page does not exist)">Ihaveabutt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ihaveabutt" title="User talk:Ihaveabutt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-07T04:03:00.000Z-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:26:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:03, 7 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-07T04:03:00.000Z-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:26:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ihaveabutt-2009-07-07T04:03:00.000Z-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-06T05:26:00.000Z-1"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Keep_it_to_yourself" data-mw-thread-id="h-Keep_it_to_yourself-2009-07-07T23:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Keep_it_to_yourself-2009-07-07T23:49:00.000Z"></span>Keep it to yourself<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Keep_it_to_yourself-2009-07-07T23:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Keep it to yourself"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PrBeacon-2009-07-07T23:49:00.000Z-Keep_it_to_yourself"></span>When you can heed your own advice about not personalizing disputes and distorting the truth, I'll stop countering your pro-whaling arguments. Until then, keep your hypocritical warnings to yourself. <a href="/wiki/User:PrBeacon" title="User:PrBeacon">PrBeacon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PrBeacon" title="User talk:PrBeacon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-PrBeacon-2009-07-07T23:49:00.000Z-Keep_it_to_yourself" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:49, 7 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PrBeacon-2009-07-07T23:49:00.000Z-Keep_it_to_yourself"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PrBeacon-2009-07-07T23:49:00.000Z-Keep_it_to_yourself"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Help_on_Sea_Shepherds" data-mw-thread-id="h-Help_on_Sea_Shepherds-2009-07-07T23:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Help_on_Sea_Shepherds-2009-07-07T23:56:00.000Z"></span>Help on Sea Shepherds<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Help_on_Sea_Shepherds-2009-07-07T23:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Help on Sea Shepherds"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-68.41.80.161-2009-07-07T23:56:00.000Z-Help_on_Sea_Shepherds"></span>Would you mind, if you see our friend San Jose doing anymore blanket reverts trying to keep the POV alive, undoing those reverts? I'm near my limit with this one and don't want to get tagged myself. Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/68.41.80.161" title="Special:Contributions/68.41.80.161">68.41.80.161</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:68.41.80.161" title="User talk:68.41.80.161">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-68.41.80.161-2009-07-07T23:56:00.000Z-Help_on_Sea_Shepherds" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:56, 7 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-68.41.80.161-2009-07-07T23:56:00.000Z-Help_on_Sea_Shepherds"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-68.41.80.161-2009-07-07T23:56:00.000Z-Help_on_Sea_Shepherds"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Change_necessary_to_your_monobook.css" data-mw-thread-id="h-Change_necessary_to_your_monobook.css-2009-07-18T22:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Change_necessary_to_your_monobook.css-2009-07-18T22:01:00.000Z"></span>Change necessary to your monobook.css<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Change_necessary_to_your_monobook.css-2009-07-18T22:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Change necessary to your monobook.css"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gary_King-2009-07-18T22:01:00.000Z-Change_necessary_to_your_monobook.css"></span>In <a href="/wiki/Special:MyPage/monobook.css" title="Special:MyPage/monobook.css">your monobook.css page</a>, you need to add <b><code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">!important</code></b> to the <b><code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">.localcomments</code></b> line, as seen <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Comments_in_Local_Time&diff=302639930&oldid=296611009">here</a>; this ensures that your custom code will override any of the default settings made by the script. Cheers! <span style="font-family:Verdana;"><a href="/wiki/User:Gary_King" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Gary King"><span style="color: #02b;">Gary <b>King</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gary_King" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Gary King"><span style="color: #02e;">talk</span></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Gary_King-2009-07-18T22:01:00.000Z-Change_necessary_to_your_monobook.css" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:01, 18 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gary_King-2009-07-18T22:01:00.000Z-Change_necessary_to_your_monobook.css"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gary_King-2009-07-18T22:01:00.000Z-Change_necessary_to_your_monobook.css"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Is_this_edit_really_necessary?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Is_this_edit_really_necessary?-2009-07-26T19:01:00.000Z"><span id="Is_this_edit_really_necessary.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Is_this_edit_really_necessary?-2009-07-26T19:01:00.000Z"></span>Is this edit really necessary?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Is_this_edit_really_necessary?-2009-07-26T19:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Is this edit really necessary?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A87.80.98.196&diff=304330609&oldid=304328550"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arthur_Rubin-2009-07-26T19:01:00.000Z-Is_this_edit_really_necessary?"></span>http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A87.80.98.196&diff=304330609&oldid=304328550</a> — <a href="/wiki/User:Arthur_Rubin" title="User:Arthur Rubin">Arthur Rubin</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arthur_Rubin" title="User talk:Arthur Rubin">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Arthur_Rubin-2009-07-26T19:01:00.000Z-Is_this_edit_really_necessary?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 26 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arthur_Rubin-2009-07-26T19:01:00.000Z-Is_this_edit_really_necessary?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arthur_Rubin-2009-07-26T19:01:00.000Z-Is_this_edit_really_necessary?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-26T19:04:00.000Z-Arthur_Rubin-2009-07-26T19:01:00.000Z"></span>Frankly, yes. We need to engage these kids in dialog to get them to understand that they’re wrong. Unfortunately, the only dialog they seem to understand is loud and accusatory. — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-26T19:04:00.000Z-Arthur_Rubin-2009-07-26T19:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 26 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-26T19:04:00.000Z-Arthur_Rubin-2009-07-26T19:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-07-26T19:04:00.000Z-Arthur_Rubin-2009-07-26T19:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="9/11_Conspiracy_Theories" data-mw-thread-id="h-9/11_Conspiracy_Theories-2009-08-04T18:08:00.000Z"><span id="9.2F11_Conspiracy_Theories"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-9/11_Conspiracy_Theories-2009-08-04T18:08:00.000Z"></span>9/11 Conspiracy Theories<span data-mw-comment-end="h-9/11_Conspiracy_Theories-2009-08-04T18:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArXivist-2009-08-04T18:08:00.000Z-9/11_Conspiracy_Theories"></span>Hi, </p><p>You've reverted three of my edits at <a href="/wiki/9/11_Conspiracy_Theories" class="mw-redirect" title="9/11 Conspiracy Theories">9/11 Conspiracy Theories</a> citing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Point" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Point">wp:point</a>, however I'm not clear on exactly what you mean. </p><p>Reverting the last two pages seem to be uncalled for, imo. <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=9/11_conspiracy_theories&diff=305987767&oldid=305970079">[1]</a> </p><p>If you look at the above link, I merely took out the phrase "one of the most popular theories" since it is not found in the reference and added a web.archive link since it was broken. Clearly not "disruptive". </p><p>The other edit concerning David Icke was due to the lack of notabilty. My arguments are in the talk page, so I would appreciate if you respond there. </p><p>Reply under "David Icke" for the first edit and "A Quest For Knowledge Edit" for the first edit (concerning Pilots for 9/11 Truth, DRG, etc.). </p><p>Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:ArXivist" title="User:ArXivist">ArXivist</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArXivist" title="User talk:ArXivist">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-ArXivist-2009-08-04T18:08:00.000Z-9/11_Conspiracy_Theories" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 4 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArXivist-2009-08-04T18:08:00.000Z-9/11_Conspiracy_Theories"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArXivist-2009-08-04T18:08:00.000Z-9/11_Conspiracy_Theories"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mercy_for_Animals" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mercy_for_Animals-2009-09-03T01:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mercy_for_Animals-2009-09-03T01:22:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Mercy_for_Animals" title="Mercy for Animals">Mercy for Animals</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mercy_for_Animals-2009-09-03T01:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Mercy for Animals"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikip-2009-09-03T01:22:00.000Z-Mercy_for_Animals"></span>I just wrote an article, <a href="/wiki/Mercy_for_Animals" title="Mercy for Animals">Mercy for Animals</a>. I notice you are active in <a href="/wiki/PETA" class="mw-redirect" title="PETA">PETA</a>. I would appreciate any input or help with the article. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Ikip" title="User:Ikip">Ikip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ikip" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Ikip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Ikip-2009-09-03T01:22:00.000Z-Mercy_for_Animals" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:22, 3 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikip-2009-09-03T01:22:00.000Z-Mercy_for_Animals"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikip-2009-09-03T01:22:00.000Z-Mercy_for_Animals"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="9/11_nose_issue" data-mw-thread-id="h-9/11_nose_issue-2009-09-13T21:40:00.000Z"><span id="9.2F11_nose_issue"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-9/11_nose_issue-2009-09-13T21:40:00.000Z"></span>9/11 nose issue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-9/11_nose_issue-2009-09-13T21:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: 9/11 nose issue"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cs32en-2009-09-13T21:40:00.000Z-9/11_nose_issue"></span>Well, the nose would have been destroyed even by smaller WTC columns. Haven't see any pictures of a plane's nose exiting one of the towers. (There are pictures and videos that show parts of the plane's fuselage.) <span style="border:1px solid;color:#000085"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cs32en" title="User talk:Cs32en"><span style="color:#000085;"> <b>Cs32en</b> </span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Cs32en-2009-09-13T21:40:00.000Z-9/11_nose_issue" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:40, 13 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cs32en-2009-09-13T21:40:00.000Z-9/11_nose_issue"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cs32en-2009-09-13T21:40:00.000Z-9/11_nose_issue"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-09-14T05:16:00.000Z-Cs32en-2009-09-13T21:40:00.000Z"></span>Don’t start worrying about me just yet – I wasn’t being serious. <abbr title="Smiling face" style="border-bottom: none;"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span></abbr> The user was arguing that there was no plane because a plane nose projected out of the building. I was commenting to say that that’s absurd, like saying that there’s no car in his driveway because it’s blue. — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-09-14T05:16:00.000Z-Cs32en-2009-09-13T21:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-09-14T05:16:00.000Z-Cs32en-2009-09-13T21:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2009-09-14T05:16:00.000Z-Cs32en-2009-09-13T21:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amalthea-2009-10-12T21:45:00.000Z-9/11_nose_issue"></span>Concerning <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=319500541">this warning message</a></span> you just posted, I would recommend you elaborate on it. I'm seeing nothing but good faithed comments from that editor, and see nothing that has been reverted in the first place – certainly nothing where a templated warning message would be constructive. --<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amalthea" title="User talk:Amalthea"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Amalthea-2009-10-12T21:45:00.000Z-9/11_nose_issue" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 12 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amalthea-2009-10-12T21:45:00.000Z-9/11_nose_issue"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amalthea-2009-10-12T21:45:00.000Z-9/11_nose_issue"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amalthea-2009-10-13T20:00:00.000Z-Amalthea-2009-10-12T21:45:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for looking into it. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amalthea" title="User talk:Amalthea"><span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Amalthea-2009-10-13T20:00:00.000Z-Amalthea-2009-10-12T21:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 13 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amalthea-2009-10-13T20:00:00.000Z-Amalthea-2009-10-12T21:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amalthea-2009-10-13T20:00:00.000Z-Amalthea-2009-10-12T21:45:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Orphaned_non-free_image_File:SSCS_Flag.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:SSCS_Flag.png-2009-12-08T03:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:SSCS_Flag.png-2009-12-08T03:54:00.000Z"></span>Orphaned non-free image File:SSCS Flag.png<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:SSCS_Flag.png-2009-12-08T03:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Orphaned non-free image File:SSCS Flag.png"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span style="font-size:32px; line-height:1em"><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skier_Dude-2009-12-08T03:54:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:SSCS_Flag.png"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_warning_blue.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="⚠"><img alt="⚠" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/35px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/53px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/70px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></a><figcaption>⚠</figcaption></figure></b></span><p> Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:SSCS_Flag.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:SSCS Flag.png (page does not exist)">File:SSCS Flag.png</a></b>. 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Skier_Dude" title="User:Skier Dude"><span style="color:ForestGreen">Skier Dude</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skier_Dude" title="User talk:Skier Dude"><span style="color:SaddleBrown">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Skier_Dude-2009-12-08T03:54:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:SSCS_Flag.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:54, 8 December 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skier_Dude-2009-12-08T03:54:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:SSCS_Flag.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skier_Dude-2009-12-08T03:54:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:SSCS_Flag.png"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Username_change" data-mw-thread-id="h-Username_change-2010-03-02T02:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Username_change-2010-03-02T02:53:00.000Z"></span>Username change<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Username_change-2010-03-02T02:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Username change"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-02T02:53:00.000Z-Username_change"></span>Think I'm going to make a username change. This one's just a wee bit dated.… — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-02T02:53:00.000Z-Username_change" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:53, 2 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-02T02:53:00.000Z-Username_change"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-02T02:53:00.000Z-Username_change"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Linking" data-mw-thread-id="h-Linking-2010-03-11T15:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Linking-2010-03-11T15:15:00.000Z"></span>Linking<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Linking-2010-03-11T15:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Linking"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T15:15:00.000Z-Linking"></span>Hello, I noticed you undid the links on the Alex Jones site. I was curious why you did that. I'm new here so I don't know if links like that aren't supposed to be within the article, or if you just felt the links would be better left at the end of the page in external links... <a href="/wiki/User:Mojokabobo" title="User:Mojokabobo">Mojokabobo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mojokabobo" title="User talk:Mojokabobo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T15:15:00.000Z-Linking" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 11 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T15:15:00.000Z-Linking"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T15:15:00.000Z-Linking"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-11T18:24:00.000Z-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T15:15:00.000Z"></span>I don't know of any policy specifically against it, but I prefer to have as few external links in article text as possible. I think if the links are already in the External Links section and/or the infobox, there's really no need to link them in the article. — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-11T18:24:00.000Z-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T15:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-11T18:24:00.000Z-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T15:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-11T18:24:00.000Z-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T15:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T20:31:00.000Z-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-11T18:24:00.000Z"></span>Ok, thanks for the clarification, I wasn't sure if I was violating some sort of policy (dear lord the rules can be complicated!!). Personally doesn't matter to me so i'll prob just leave it.<a href="/wiki/User:Mojokabobo" title="User:Mojokabobo">Mojokabobo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mojokabobo" title="User talk:Mojokabobo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T20:31:00.000Z-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-11T18:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T20:31:00.000Z-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-11T18:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T20:31:00.000Z-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-11T18:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-12T12:22:00.000Z-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T20:31:00.000Z"></span>Well, there's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OVERLINK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OVERLINK">WP:OVERLINK</a>. I would say what I did isn't exactly enforcing it, but working "in the spirit" of it. — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-12T12:22:00.000Z-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T20:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 12 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-12T12:22:00.000Z-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T20:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-03-12T12:22:00.000Z-Mojokabobo-2010-03-11T20:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File_copyright_problem_with_File:PatriotU_Crop.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File_copyright_problem_with_File:PatriotU_Crop.jpg-2010-03-19T07:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File_copyright_problem_with_File:PatriotU_Crop.jpg-2010-03-19T07:42:00.000Z"></span>File copyright problem with File:PatriotU Crop.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-File_copyright_problem_with_File:PatriotU_Crop.jpg-2010-03-19T07:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: File copyright problem with File:PatriotU Crop.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fastily-2010-03-19T07:42:00.000Z-File_copyright_problem_with_File:PatriotU_Crop.jpg"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Copyright-problem.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/64px-Copyright-problem.svg.png" decoding="async" width="64" height="69" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/96px-Copyright-problem.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Copyright-problem.svg/128px-Copyright-problem.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="120"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Thank you for uploading <a href="/wiki/File:PatriotU_Crop.jpg" title="File:PatriotU Crop.jpg">File:PatriotU Crop.jpg</a>. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights" title="Wikipedia:Copyrights">copyright</a> very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the <b>license</b> and the <b>source</b> of the file. If you know this information, then you can add a <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Image copyright tags">copyright tag</a></b> to the <a href="/wiki/Help:Image_page" class="mw-redirect" title="Help:Image page">image description page</a>. </p><p>If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their license and tagged them, too. 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Thanks again for your cooperation. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><b><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Fastily&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Fastily (page does not exist)"><span style="color:#4B0082;"><big>F</big><small>ASTILY<sub>sock</sub></small></span></a></b><sup><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fastily" title="User talk:Fastily"><span style="color:#4B0082;">(T<small>ALK</small>)</span></a></small></sup></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Fastily-2010-03-19T07:42:00.000Z-File_copyright_problem_with_File:PatriotU_Crop.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 19 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fastily-2010-03-19T07:42:00.000Z-File_copyright_problem_with_File:PatriotU_Crop.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fastily-2010-03-19T07:42:00.000Z-File_copyright_problem_with_File:PatriotU_Crop.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Creationism" data-mw-thread-id="h-Creationism-2010-03-30T08:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Creationism-2010-03-30T08:15:00.000Z"></span>Creationism<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Creationism-2010-03-30T08:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Creationism"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SQGibbon-2010-03-30T08:15:00.000Z-Creationism"></span>Hey TheHerbalGerbil, I reverted your edit at <a href="/wiki/Creationism" title="Creationism">Creationism</a>. While I certainly agree with your point I don't think it comes across very encyclopedic and in fact seems rather "point of view"-ish (at least the way it was worded). Anyone reading the article has probably already made up their mind whether there is a religious bias and if evolution has been proven true so we don't need to tell them what to think. I wanted to leave you an explanation of why I made the change and not just an impersonal summary in the edit history. <a href="/wiki/User:SQGibbon" title="User:SQGibbon">SQGibbon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SQGibbon" title="User talk:SQGibbon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-SQGibbon-2010-03-30T08:15:00.000Z-Creationism" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:15, 30 March 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SQGibbon-2010-03-30T08:15:00.000Z-Creationism"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SQGibbon-2010-03-30T08:15:00.000Z-Creationism"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ady_Gil_-_Bethune's_detention_and_arrest" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ady_Gil_-_Bethune's_detention_and_arrest-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z"><span id="Ady_Gil_-_Bethune.27s_detention_and_arrest"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ady_Gil_-_Bethune's_detention_and_arrest-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z"></span>Ady Gil - Bethune's detention and arrest<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ady_Gil_-_Bethune's_detention_and_arrest-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Ady Gil - Bethune's detention and arrest"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z-Ady_Gil_-_Bethune's_detention_and_arrest"></span>Hello, I noticed you inserted the word "ostensibly" into the <a href="/wiki/Ady_Gil" title="Ady Gil">Ady Gil</a> article, regarding the purpose of Bethune's visit to the Captain of the Shonan Maru 2. But the supporting news story which is referenced states that as a fact. There is also video of Bethune knocking on the door of the bridge of the Shonan Maru 2 with a piece of paper in his hand - I'll try to find it. Do you have a reliable source that leads you to believe this is not true? <a href="/wiki/User:Ghostofnemo" title="User:Ghostofnemo">Ghostofnemo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ghostofnemo" title="User talk:Ghostofnemo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z-Ady_Gil_-_Bethune's_detention_and_arrest" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:41, 4 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z-Ady_Gil_-_Bethune's_detention_and_arrest"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z-Ady_Gil_-_Bethune's_detention_and_arrest"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:47:00.000Z-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z"></span>Here's the video. Doesn't look like he's planting any explosives or sabotaging the ship: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU5s2hJA95k&feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU5s2hJA95k&feature=related</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Ghostofnemo" title="User:Ghostofnemo">Ghostofnemo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ghostofnemo" title="User talk:Ghostofnemo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:47:00.000Z-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:47, 4 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:47:00.000Z-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:47:00.000Z-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-04-04T12:30:00.000Z-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z"></span>I'm not implying that Bethune had more sinister intentions. But Bethune's visit was a repeat performance of the Potts & Giles incident from a few years back, which was an admitted publicity stunt. To say that in the article would be original research, so I have to settle for using my knowledge to make sure more careful wording is used. — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-04-04T12:30:00.000Z-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 4 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-04-04T12:30:00.000Z-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-04-04T12:30:00.000Z-Ghostofnemo-2010-04-04T11:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="You_are_now_a_Reviewer" data-mw-thread-id="h-You_are_now_a_Reviewer-2010-06-18T18:01:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-You_are_now_a_Reviewer-2010-06-18T18:01:00.000Z"></span>You are now a Reviewer<span data-mw-comment-end="h-You_are_now_a_Reviewer-2010-06-18T18:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: You are now a Reviewer"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Courcelles-2010-06-18T18:01:00.000Z-You_are_now_a_Reviewer"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg/130px-Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg.png" decoding="async" width="130" height="130" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg/195px-Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg/260px-Wikipedia_Reviewer.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hello. Your account has been granted the "<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r886049734">.mw-parser-output .monospaced{font-family:monospace,monospace}</style><span class="monospaced">reviewer</span>" userright, allowing you to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reviewing" class="mw-disambig" title="Wikipedia:Reviewing">review other users' edits</a> on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, is currently undergoing a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes" title="Wikipedia:Pending changes">two-month trial</a> scheduled to end 15 August 2010. </p><p>Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed">autoconfirmed</a> to articles placed under pending changes. 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More detailed documentation and guidelines can be found <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Pending_changes" title="Wikipedia:Pending changes">here</a>. </p><p>If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. <a href="/wiki/User:Courcelles" title="User:Courcelles">Courcelles</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Courcelles" title="User talk:Courcelles">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Courcelles-2010-06-18T18:01:00.000Z-You_are_now_a_Reviewer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 18 June 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Courcelles-2010-06-18T18:01:00.000Z-You_are_now_a_Reviewer"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Courcelles-2010-06-18T18:01:00.000Z-You_are_now_a_Reviewer"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Letting_you_know" data-mw-thread-id="h-Letting_you_know-2010-07-22T00:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Letting_you_know-2010-07-22T00:37:00.000Z"></span>Letting you know<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Letting_you_know-2010-07-22T00:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Letting you know"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tryptofish-2010-07-22T00:37:00.000Z-Letting_you_know"></span>I want to let you know that I've started a discussion, primarily about SlimVirgin, at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#Talk:PETA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts">Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts#Talk:PETA</a>, but I also briefly mention you in it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Tryptofish-2010-07-22T00:37:00.000Z-Letting_you_know" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:37, 22 July 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tryptofish-2010-07-22T00:37:00.000Z-Letting_you_know"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tryptofish-2010-07-22T00:37:00.000Z-Letting_you_know"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hope_you_don't_mind" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hope_you_don't_mind-2010-08-04T17:46:00.000Z"><span id="Hope_you_don.27t_mind"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hope_you_don't_mind-2010-08-04T17:46:00.000Z"></span>Hope you don't mind<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hope_you_don't_mind-2010-08-04T17:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Hope you don't mind"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soxwon-2010-08-04T17:46:00.000Z-Hope_you_don't_mind"></span>I took one of your userboxes and tweaked it for my own page :). <a href="/wiki/User:Soxwon" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Soxwon">Soxwon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soxwon" title="User talk:Soxwon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Soxwon-2010-08-04T17:46:00.000Z-Hope_you_don't_mind" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 4 August 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soxwon-2010-08-04T17:46:00.000Z-Hope_you_don't_mind"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soxwon-2010-08-04T17:46:00.000Z-Hope_you_don't_mind"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removal_of_other_users'_talk_page_comments" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removal_of_other_users'_talk_page_comments-2010-10-14T12:33:00.000Z"><span id="Removal_of_other_users.27_talk_page_comments"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removal_of_other_users'_talk_page_comments-2010-10-14T12:33:00.000Z"></span>Removal of other users' talk page comments<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removal_of_other_users'_talk_page_comments-2010-10-14T12:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Removal of other users' talk page comments"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Meco-2010-10-14T12:33:00.000Z-Removal_of_other_users'_talk_page_comments"></span>I could drop a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Uw-tpv2" title="Template:Uw-tpv2">uw-tpv2</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> here, but since you seem to be an experienced editor, I'll stick with prose. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Inedia&diff=390677539&oldid=382810270">This edit</a> removing the post of an IP user from a discussion is out of bounds. It would take much stronger language and irrational behavior, or some other violation of talk page policies, to justify such a removal. __<a href="/wiki/User:Meco" title="User:Meco">meco</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Meco" title="User talk:Meco">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Meco-2010-10-14T12:33:00.000Z-Removal_of_other_users'_talk_page_comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 14 October 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Meco-2010-10-14T12:33:00.000Z-Removal_of_other_users'_talk_page_comments"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Meco-2010-10-14T12:33:00.000Z-Removal_of_other_users'_talk_page_comments"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-10-14T13:52:00.000Z-Meco-2010-10-14T12:33:00.000Z"></span>No, it isn’t. The editor was badmouthing one of the subjects of the article and trolling. It’s a violation of a handful of policies, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FORUM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FORUM">WP:FORUM</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIVIL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIVIL">WP:CIVIL</a> not being the least of them. If he editor wants to have a positive impact, he can try not being a dick. — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheHerbalGerbil" title="Special:Contributions/TheHerbalGerbil">STALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-10-14T13:52:00.000Z-Meco-2010-10-14T12:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 14 October 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-10-14T13:52:00.000Z-Meco-2010-10-14T12:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2010-10-14T13:52:00.000Z-Meco-2010-10-14T12:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Offence" data-mw-thread-id="h-Offence-2011-06-19T10:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Offence-2011-06-19T10:55:00.000Z"></span>Offence<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Offence-2011-06-19T10:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Offence"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peterl-2011-06-19T10:55:00.000Z-Offence"></span>Hi Just letting you know I (and another 7.5 million people) take offence to a recent comment you placed in the review summary of <a href="/wiki/Criticism_of_sport_utility_vehicles" class="mw-redirect" title="Criticism of sport utility vehicles">Criticism of sport utility vehicles</a>, where you said 'a state in Australia? Seriously?'. Yes, seriously. Have you ever been to Australia? Do you know New South Wales is larger than Texas? And has a population larger than Missouri? And has a very good record in car safety. Seriously? Yes. Notwithstanding that, I don't think the removed sentence accurately conveyed the document's intent, and the article is better off without it. Seriously. <a href="/wiki/User:Peterl" title="User:Peterl">peterl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peterl" title="User talk:Peterl">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Peterl-2011-06-19T10:55:00.000Z-Offence" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 19 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peterl-2011-06-19T10:55:00.000Z-Offence"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peterl-2011-06-19T10:55:00.000Z-Offence"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2011-06-19T21:15:00.000Z-Peterl-2011-06-19T10:55:00.000Z"></span>If people want to take offence at their home state not being an accurate representation of the rest of the world, they can go take a long walk on a short pier. I don’t care if it’s Australia, Belize or Croatia, apart from it being more obvious that an editor is cherry-picking when he has to reach that far to find something to support his POV. — <em><a href="/wiki/User:TheHerbalGerbil" title="User:TheHerbalGerbil">TheHerbalGerbil</a></em><sup>(<a class="mw-selflink selflink">TALK</a>|<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TheHerbalGerbil" title="Special:Contributions/TheHerbalGerbil">STALK</a>)</sup>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-TheHerbalGerbil-2011-06-19T21:15:00.000Z-Peterl-2011-06-19T10:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 19 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2011-06-19T21:15:00.000Z-Peterl-2011-06-19T10:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheHerbalGerbil-2011-06-19T21:15:00.000Z-Peterl-2011-06-19T10:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T13:47:00.000Z"><span id="ArbCom_elections_are_now_open.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T13:47:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2015" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2015">ArbCom elections are now open!</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!-2015-11-23T13:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: ArbCom elections are now open!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T13:47:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"></span>Hi,<br/> You appear to be eligible to vote in the current <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2015" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2015">Arbitration Committee election</a>. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">Arbitration Committee</a> is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFAR">arbitration process</a>. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BAN">site bans</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TBAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TBAN">topic bans</a>, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBPOL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBPOL">arbitration policy</a> describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2015/C" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2015/C">review the candidates' statements</a> and submit your choices on <a href="/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/398" title="Special:SecurePoll/vote/398">the voting page</a>. For the Election committee, <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T13:47:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:47, 23 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T13:47:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2015-11-23T13:47:00.000Z-ArbCom_elections_are_now_open!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:Joescience3.jpg_listed_for_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Joescience3.jpg_listed_for_discussion-2016-05-13T08:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Joescience3.jpg_listed_for_discussion-2016-05-13T08:15:00.000Z"></span>File:Joescience3.jpg listed for discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Joescience3.jpg_listed_for_discussion-2016-05-13T08:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: File:Joescience3.jpg listed for discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kelly-2016-05-13T08:15:00.000Z-File:Joescience3.jpg_listed_for_discussion"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> A file that you uploaded or altered, <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Joescience3.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Joescience3.jpg (page does not exist)">File:Joescience3.jpg</a>, has been listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Files for discussion">Wikipedia:Files for discussion</a>. Please see the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2016_May_13#File:Joescience3.jpg" title="Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 May 13"><b>discussion</b></a> to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Kelly" title="User:Kelly"><span style="color:#060;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help"><b>Kelly</b></span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kelly" title="User talk:Kelly">hi!</a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-Kelly-2016-05-13T08:15:00.000Z-File:Joescience3.jpg_listed_for_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:15, 13 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kelly-2016-05-13T08:15:00.000Z-File:Joescience3.jpg_listed_for_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kelly-2016-05-13T08:15:00.000Z-File:Joescience3.jpg_listed_for_discussion"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z"><span id="ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2016" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2016">ArbCom Elections 2016</a>: Voting now open!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256334245">.mw-parser-output .ivmbox{margin-bottom:1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,#fdf2d5);padding:0.5em;display:flex;align-items:center}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-image{padding-left:1px;padding-right:0.5em;max-width:100px;flex:1 0 25px}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text{padding:0.5em 0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:first-child{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:last-child{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello, TheHerbalGerbil. Voting in the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2016" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2016">2016 Arbitration Committee elections</a></b> is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016. </p><p>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">Arbitration Committee</a> is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration">Wikipedia arbitration process</a>. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BAN">site bans</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TBAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TBAN">topic bans</a>, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy">arbitration policy</a> describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. </p><p>If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2016/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2016/Candidates">the candidates' statements</a> and submit your choices on <b><a href="/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/399" title="Special:SecurePoll/vote/399">the voting page</a></b>. <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-21T22:08:00.000Z-ArbCom_Elections_2016:_Voting_now_open!"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z"></span>ArbCom 2017 election voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2017 election voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello, TheHerbalGerbil. Voting in the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2017" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2017">2017 Arbitration Committee elections</a></b> is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 10 December. All users who registered an account before Saturday, 28 October 2017, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Wednesday, 1 November 2017 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. </p><p>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">Arbitration Committee</a> is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration">Wikipedia arbitration process</a>. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BAN">site bans</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TBAN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TBAN">topic bans</a>, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy">arbitration policy</a> describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. </p><p>If you wish to participate in the 2017 election, please review <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2017/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2017/Candidates">the candidates</a> and submit your choices on the <b><a href="/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/400" title="Special:SecurePoll/vote/400">voting page</a></b>. <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2017-12-03T18:42:00.000Z-ArbCom_2017_election_voter_message"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message-2018-11-19T18:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message-2018-11-19T18:42:00.000Z"></span>ArbCom 2018 election voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message-2018-11-19T18:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheHerbalGerbil&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2018 election voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2018-11-19T18:42:00.000Z-ArbCom_2018_election_voter_message"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 40px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello, TheHerbalGerbil. 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