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data-mw-ve-target-container> <div class="vector-body-before-content"> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">Från Wikipedia</div> </div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="sv" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-thread-id="h--2006-08-06T02:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h--2006-08-06T02:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="h--2006-08-06T02:05:00.000Z"></span></span><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacitus-2006-08-06T02:05:00.000Z"></span>Uppslagsordet "prussiska" existerar varken i Ugglan eller NE, däremot finns <a href="/wiki/Preussiska" class="mw-redirect" title="Preussiska">preussiska</a>. <span style="border: 1px solid red;"> <a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Torvindus" class="mw-redirect" title="Användare:Torvindus">Torvindus</a> <a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Torvindus" title="Användardiskussion:Torvindus">☎</a> </span> 29 november 2005 kl.23.13 (CET) </p> <dl><dd>Preussiska och prussiska är olika språk. /<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:RaSten" title="Användardiskussion:RaSten">RaSten</a> 30 november 2005 kl.00.03 (CET)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Jaså, kan du förklara det närmare? <span style="border: 1px solid red;"> <a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Torvindus" class="mw-redirect" title="Användare:Torvindus">Torvindus</a> <a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion:Torvindus" title="Användardiskussion:Torvindus">☎</a> </span> 30 november 2005 kl.01.33 (CET)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Preussiska ensamt är väl inte någon bra term, eftersom det lätt förväxlas med den tyska som talas i Preussen. Så antingen prussiska eller fornpreussiska bör nog användas. Jag har försökt utreda, men ännu inte kommit till någon säker slutsats./<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Sannab" title="Användare:Sannab">sanna</a> 30 november 2005 kl.15.14 (CET)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I brist på alternativ information så bör vi väl som Torvindus föreslagit följa NE, och där används <b>preussiska</b> som uppslag för det språk som det baltiska folkslaget <b>pruser</b> alternativt <b>preussare</b> talar. Därför bör redirecten härifrån till <a href="/wiki/Preussiska" class="mw-redirect" title="Preussiska">preussiska</a> återställas. Observera att på svwiki kallas folkslaget <a href="/wiki/Prusser" class="mw-redirect" title="Prusser">prusser</a>, vilket kanske i så fall också bör åtgärdas./<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Sannab" title="Användare:Sannab">sanna</a> 1 december 2005 kl.11.02 (CET)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Jag håller med om att <b>preussiska</b> är den bättre termen. Om nu den tyska dialekten är ett problem är det väl bara ätt benämna den för <b>preussisk tyska</b>. <a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Aszev" title="Användare:Aszev">Aszev</a> 11 maj 2006 kl.19.32 (CEST)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Vidare problem blir det med <a href="/wiki/Kategori:Preussare" title="Kategori:Preussare">Kategori:Preussare</a> som behandlar tyskar. /<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Fenix" title="Användare:Fenix">Fenix</a> 2 juni 2006 kl.21.27 (CEST)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Jag flyttade på eget bevåg den här artikeln till prusiska då jag strax innan hade flyttat prusser till pruser. Jag hade inte upptäckt den här diskussionen innan. Termen prusser är helt ny för mig och som redan har nämnts här finns den inte med i uppslagsverken. Jag uppfattade det som en felstavning helt enkelt och ändrade det till den för mig välkända varianten pruser. Nationalencyklopedin tycks dock rekommendera formen preussare. Men jag anser att pruser är ett bättre val då den termen inte riskerar att leda till förväxlingar med de välkända tysktalande preussarna från 1700- och 1800-talet.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=Anv%C3%A4ndare:Tacitus&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Användare:Tacitus [inte skriven än]">Tacitus</a> <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Prusiska#c-Tacitus-2006-08-06T02:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">6 augusti 2006 kl. 04.05 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacitus-2006-08-06T02:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacitus-2006-08-06T02:05:00.000Z"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacitus-2006-08-12T19:41:00.000Z-Tacitus-2006-08-06T02:05:00.000Z"></span>Jag har nu fixat alla länkar till den här artikeln och upptäckte då ett problem. Artikeln "preussiska" har redirectats hit men de sidor som länkar till den syftade med endast ett undantag på Preussen under 1700- och 1800-talet. Redirecten bör därför antingen ändras till <a href="/wiki/Preussen" title="Preussen">Preussen</a> eller så bör <a href="/wiki/Preussiska" class="mw-redirect" title="Preussiska">preussiska </a> bli en förgreningssida.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=Anv%C3%A4ndare:Tacitus&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Användare:Tacitus [inte skriven än]">Tacitus</a> <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Prusiska#c-Tacitus-2006-08-12T19:41:00.000Z-Tacitus-2006-08-06T02:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12 augusti 2006 kl. 21.41 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacitus-2006-08-12T19:41:00.000Z-Tacitus-2006-08-06T02:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacitus-2006-08-12T19:41:00.000Z-Tacitus-2006-08-06T02:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fenix-2006-08-12T19:45:00.000Z-Tacitus-2006-08-12T19:41:00.000Z"></span>Eftersom preussiska är det namn NE använder på detta språk ska den sidan i så fall bli en förgrening. /<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Fenix" title="Användare:Fenix">Fenix</a> <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Prusiska#c-Fenix-2006-08-12T19:45:00.000Z-Tacitus-2006-08-12T19:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12 augusti 2006 kl. 21.45 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fenix-2006-08-12T19:45:00.000Z-Tacitus-2006-08-12T19:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fenix-2006-08-12T19:45:00.000Z-Tacitus-2006-08-12T19:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Undergrupp" data-mw-thread-id="h-Undergrupp-2006-08-06T16:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Undergrupp-2006-08-06T16:34:00.000Z"></span>Undergrupp<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Undergrupp-2006-08-06T16:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Prusiska&action=edit&section=1" title="Redigera avsnitts källkod: Undergrupp"><span>redigera wikitext</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fenix-2006-08-06T16:34:00.000Z-Undergrupp"></span>enwiki säger Östbaltiska, Ethnologue Västbaltiska. Någon som vet?/<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Sannab" title="Användare:Sannab">sanna</a> 29 november 2005 kl.23.24 (CET) </p> <dl><dd>Även nowiki säger Västbaltiska, och texten från ugglan antyder också att lettiska och litausiska (östbaltiska språk) står närmare varandra än prussiska. Jag har därför ändrat till Västbaltiska./<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Sannab" title="Användare:Sannab">sanna</a> 30 november 2005 kl.15.14 (CET)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>"till lettiska språkgrenen hörande" Vad menar ugglan med en lettisk gren, då det väl endast finns öst- och västbaltiska grenar? /<a href="/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Fenix" title="Användare:Fenix">Fenix</a> <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Prusiska#c-Fenix-2006-08-06T16:34:00.000Z-Undergrupp" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">6 augusti 2006 kl. 18.34 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fenix-2006-08-06T16:34:00.000Z-Undergrupp"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">svara</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fenix-2006-08-06T16:34:00.000Z-Undergrupp"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Hämtad från ”<a dir="ltr" href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Prusiska&oldid=2569756">https://sv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Prusiska&oldid=2569756</a>”</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> Sidan redigerades senast den 12 augusti 2006 kl. 20.45.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Wikipedias text är tillgänglig under licensen <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.sv">Creative Commons Erkännande-dela-lika 4.0 Unported</a>. 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