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c03">症状を軽く見たり、不機嫌になったり、いきなり外出したりとかの逃避行動に走る</span>男性が散見されるのはなんでなんだろう?<span class="f20 c16">どういう心理?</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/dobrepivko/status/1892923318904188992" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-21 22:04:22</a> </span> </span> </div> <div data-index="1"> <div class="type_markdown"> <nav class='show_headings'> <span>目次</span> <ul> <li class="h_1"><a href="#h1_0">前提)これやる人は夫側だけじゃない</a></li> <li class="h_1"><a href="#h6_0">そういう人が身近にいて、こんな感じ</a></li> <li class="h_1"><a href="#h18_0">そうする側の反応「居ても何もできない」「どうしていいか不明」</a></li> <li class="h_1"><a href="#h27_0">これってどういう気持ちでこうなるの?</a></li> <li class="h_2"><a href="#h38_0">「イレギュラーに対応できず、苛立ってしまう」というケース</a></li> <li class="h_2"><a href="#h43_0">やってしまった側の後悔「あのときはこういうことだったのかも…」</a></li> <li class="h_1"><a href="#h46_0">「こうしてほしい」お互いが訓練的に話したり、言ってみることが大事かも</a></li> </ul> </nav> <h2 class="md-h-1" data-h-index="0">前提)これやる人は夫側だけじゃない <button type="button" class="hidebtn" title="目次" onclick="openDialog('/dialog/index/2515623');"><svg class="svg-icon fa-list-alt"><use xlink:href="#list-alt" /></svg></button> </h2> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='2' data-id='1893249815921746262'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/ns23p' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="4" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">パワー</strong> <span class="status_name">@ns23p</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f20 c12">わたし女だけどまじでこれしちゃうんだよな </span><a href="https://t.co/5b5ITcF65R" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/dobrepivko/sta…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/ns23p/status/1893249815921746262" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 19:41:45</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='3' data-id='1893248364650615038'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/rrrrrpuuu' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="5" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">おがさわら</strong> <span class="status_name">@rrrrrpuuu</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f17 c12">配属者じゃないけどわいの親がそうです!!</span>前にそれで友達の前でめちゃくちゃ怒鳴られたことあります!またはちょっと具合悪いかも…っていうと嫌な顔してあからさまに態度にだして<span class="f17 c12">なんでお前いつも具合悪いの?とかいってきます!!どういう心理ですか??? </span><a href="https://t.co/WHdQq81YjA" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/dobrepivko/sta…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/rrrrrpuuu/status/1893248364650615038" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 19:35:59</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='4' data-id='1893249705510838354'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/yyyy_8888_' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="6" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">Y</strong> <span class="status_name">@yyyy_8888_</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f20 c19">これは多分男性に限らずでは…?</span><span class="f17 c12"> 私の場合は母親がそうだった。</span>子どもの頃、体温計で測って明らかに熱があると分かる場合は普通に接してくれたけど、頭が痛いとか気持ち悪いとか、証明できない体調不良の時はなぜか症状を軽く見て学校行けば治るから早く準備しなさいと不機嫌に対応された。 <a href="https://t.co/BRz2qspWjt" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/dobrepivko/sta…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/yyyy_8888_/status/1893249705510838354" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 19:41:19</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='5' data-id='1893206092647186469'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/ri3550' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="7" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">自律さん</strong> <span class="status_name">@ri3550</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f17 c12">自分は女(妻)の立場なのですがまさしくこの男性の状態になります </span><a href="https://t.co/c0l8g87v5K" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/dobrepivko/sta…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/ri3550/status/1893206092647186469" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 16:48:01</a> </span> </span> </div> <div data-index="6"> <div class="type_markdown"> <h2 class="md-h-1" data-h-index="0">そういう人が身近にいて、こんな感じ <button type="button" class="hidebtn" title="目次" onclick="openDialog('/dialog/index/2515623');"><svg class="svg-icon fa-list-alt"><use xlink:href="#list-alt" /></svg></button> </h2> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='7' data-id='1893152843177054368'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/beyond55277915' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="8" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">beyond</strong> <span class="status_name">@beyond55277915</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/dobrepivko" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@dobrepivko</a><span class="f17 c08"> 私が中学生の時、母が具合悪くなり🚑を呼ぶ事になった</span> <span class="f17 c08">父もいたが何故かイライラして何もしない</span> 私か119に電話した 🚑が到着 <span class="f17 c08">父が</span><span class="f20 c08">『お前行けるか?』</span><span class="f17 c08">と当時中学生の私に一緒に病院に行けと言う</span> それまでも父のこと嫌いだったけど、あれで決定的に大嫌いになったなー</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/beyond55277915/status/1893152843177054368" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 13:16:25</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='8' data-id='1893169676173127891'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/kiki_pmpmprn' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="9" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">Kiki /كيكي 🇬🇧🇯🇵</strong> <span class="status_name">@kiki_pmpmprn</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/dobrepivko" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@dobrepivko</a> めちゃくちゃ<span class="f20 c08">うちの父</span>です。<span class="f20 c08">家族が病気の時、赤ちゃんがいて手が必要な時、来客が来ている時、孫たちが遊びに聞いてる時………</span><span class="f20 c19">いつのまにか外出していなくなるか、自室に消えて昼寝しています。</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/kiki_pmpmprn/status/1893169676173127891" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 14:23:18</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='9' data-id='1893012642127847639'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/bell_tiger56968' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="10" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">les yeux du tigre</strong> <span class="status_name">@bell_tiger56968</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>おお、、立派なDV行動、、うちのDV実父が母が癌になって<span class="f17 c08">抗癌剤治療中に抗がん剤投与後の副作用で唸っている枕元で</span><span class="f20 c03">「そんなに癌が自慢か!!」と怒鳴った</span>んよな。心理は<span class="f17 c08">自分は健康なので相手が弱ると健康管理がなってないとイライラする</span>から。DVマンは世話が自分に降りかかると怒り出す。面倒だから。 <a href="https://t.co/EAn7pvzVew" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/dobrepivko/sta…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/bell_tiger56968/status/1893012642127847639" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 03:59:19</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='10' data-id='1893159978544046171'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/KW7DzYtJuoMS50v' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="11" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">太ワク</strong> <span class="status_name">@KW7DzYtJuoMS50v</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f17 c08">うちは妻がこれ。私が体調を崩して動けなくなると、露骨に不機嫌になり物や子供に八つ当たり</span>して物音を立てわめき散らすので、<span class="f17 c08">静養したくても心が休まらない。</span>彼女は生活することすべてを面倒くさい・やりたくないと感じているので、<span class="f17 c19">私が動けない分の家事負担が増えることに堪えられない</span>のだ。 <a href="https://t.co/sIcVIWUo30" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/dobrepivko/sta…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/KW7DzYtJuoMS50v/status/1893159978544046171" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 13:44:46</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='11' data-id='1893169090979823772'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/aiba3588' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="12" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">六瓢箪</strong> <span class="status_name">@aiba3588</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/dobrepivko" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@dobrepivko</a> うちの旦那も同じかな、、容赦ないです ただ、旦那も体調悪くても無理して子供を 連れ出したりするんで、、状況によるかな</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/aiba3588/status/1893169090979823772" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 14:20:59</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='12' data-id='1893148319855321202'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/mo_04_24' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="13" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">ひみつ</strong> <span class="status_name">@mo_04_24</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/dobrepivko" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@dobrepivko</a> うちの旦那は<span class="f17 c08">私の症状に合わせて</span> <span class="f17 c08">旦那も瞬時に体調不良になります。</span> さっきまで元気だったのに 急に高熱(自称)も出ます。 そして熱も無いのにハアハア行って寝込む。 <span class="f17 c08">此方は本当に体調悪いので 育児家事も頼めず本当に冷めます。</span> この人、私に必要かな…て</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/mo_04_24/status/1893148319855321202" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 12:58:27</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='13' data-id='1893175544230883427'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/yellow__spice' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="14" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">きいろ5y☺︎</strong> <span class="status_name">@yellow__spice</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>母の病状を医師から母と父に説明されてる時に診察室を出てった父を思い出した。 自分が不安な時に出てっちゃう夫頼りなかったろうな <a href="https://t.co/M5DjiPB7pv" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/dobrepivko/sta…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/yellow__spice/status/1893175544230883427" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 14:46:37</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='14' data-id='1893191049021137058'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/UcO8xYs0IC96415' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="15" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">りんご</strong> <span class="status_name">@UcO8xYs0IC96415</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/dobrepivko" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@dobrepivko</a> わかる。<span class="f17 c08">うちの父親も母親具合悪いと不機嫌になってた。なんで具合悪いのって。</span>逆に自分が具合悪いと家族全員で気遣わないと機嫌悪くなってた。家にみんないて俺を心配しないのなんでって。いや、わかんねえよ。だからそんな父親は母親死後、子ども全員に疎遠されました。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/UcO8xYs0IC96415/status/1893191049021137058" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 15:48:14</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='15' data-id='1893163486013988996'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/electricflush' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="16" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">わたあめ</strong> <span class="status_name">@electricflush</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/dobrepivko" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@dobrepivko</a> 人の気持ちがわからない <span class="f17 c08">自分にとって不都合なことだから逃げる</span> (自分のために笑ってくれない、世話してくれないなど) らしいです。 そんな友達は1人もいないけど夫がそうです。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/electricflush/status/1893163486013988996" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 13:58:42</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='16' data-id='1893155483361702007'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/msmn_home' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="17" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">まさむね</strong> <span class="status_name">@msmn_home</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>私の身内みんなそう 私なら大丈夫と思い込みたい てか人間みんな都合良いように考えるのが常だと思う、<span class="f20 c08">そこに男性も女性もない </span><a href="https://t.co/cmGL3d67v3" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/dobrepivko/sta…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/msmn_home/status/1893155483361702007" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 13:26:55</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='17' data-id='1893171823002665184'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/kaorilavender' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="18" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">Kaorin K.</strong> <span class="status_name">@kaorilavender</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/dobrepivko" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@dobrepivko</a> 病院行けしか言わない。 夕べ〇〇したからだ、などと責められる。※普通のこと。 <span class="f17 c08">そっとしておくのが苦手なのかな。</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/kaorilavender/status/1893171823002665184" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 14:31:50</a> </span> </span> </div> <div data-index="18"> <div class="type_markdown"> <h2 class="md-h-1" data-h-index="0">そうする側の反応「居ても何もできない」「どうしていいか不明」 <button type="button" class="hidebtn" title="目次" onclick="openDialog('/dialog/index/2515623');"><svg class="svg-icon fa-list-alt"><use xlink:href="#list-alt" /></svg></button> </h2> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='19' data-id='1892962157634965696'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/hpzimmerfrei' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="19" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">🌈🌈🌈木村🕑️🌈 lotus123書院 太郎 職業は演奏家&バスーン教師</strong> <span class="status_name">@hpzimmerfrei</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/dobrepivko" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@dobrepivko</a> ん〜 <span class="f20 c19">そこに一緒にいりゃいる分だけ早く治るわけでもないし 普段通りの生活すりゃ良いかなって</span> <span class="f17 c12">私が病気の時でも ヨメさんが看病とかで 疲れたり時間取られたくないって思う</span>けど</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/hpzimmerfrei/status/1892962157634965696" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 00:38:42</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='20' data-id='1893081402477846908'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/dobrepivko' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="2" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">かよ🇩🇪</strong> <span class="status_name">@dobrepivko</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/hpzimmerfrei" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@hpzimmerfrei</a> うーん、普通に<span class="f17 c16">大丈夫?って聞いて優しい態度を見せてくれればそれでいい</span>のですけどね。それだけで早く治りますよ。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/dobrepivko/status/1893081402477846908" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 08:32:32</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='21' data-id='1893230145290305704'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/meda_4hiki' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="20" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">めだか4匹</strong> <span class="status_name">@meda_4hiki</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>これ自分もそうだな〜 <span class="f17 c12">解決出来ることならいいけど、</span><span class="f20 c12">解決策は特になくずっと同じ愚痴を言われると逃げたくなる</span><span class="f17 c12">(親のこと)</span> <a href="https://t.co/ZD0RiTw7AM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">x.com/dobrepivko/sta…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/meda_4hiki/status/1893230145290305704" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 18:23:35</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='22' data-id='1893158762552402140'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/deni_ru80' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="21" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="3" /> <strong class="emj">デニール</strong> <span class="status_name">@deni_ru80</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/dobrepivko" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@dobrepivko</a> こっちは<span class="f20 c03">どうしようも出来ない体調不良を延々と訴えられると辛い。</span><span class="f17 c12">体がキツイからかもだけどやってる</span><span class="f17 c03">家事に対してのチェック</span><span class="f17 c12">やら出来てない気付けてないことに対する</span><span class="f20 c03">あたりがやたらきつくなって辛い。</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/deni_ru80/status/1893158762552402140" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2025-02-22 13:39:56</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet 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