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The term is derived from "<a href="/wiki/Slut_shaming" class="mw-redirect" title="Slut shaming">slut shaming</a>" and is used predominantly by <a href="/wiki/Men%27s_rights_activism" class="mw-redirect" title="Men's rights activism">men's rights activists</a> and other denizens of the <a href="/wiki/Manosphere" title="Manosphere">manosphere</a>. The logic in the term's use is that the man in question is made to feel ashamed solely for being male rather than the specific context of how he has behaved, and that the women shaming him are saying that they don't want men to flirt with women at all. Needless to say, this is (almost always) <a href="/wiki/Bullshit" title="Bullshit">bullshit</a>, since the implication is ultimately that there are few/no acceptable restrictions on seeking sex. </p><p>What some call "creep shaming" is actually pointing out a variety of inappropriate behaviors, including, but not limited to: persistent and/or disrespectful sexual propositioning (including cold-propositioning),<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2">[note 1]</a></sup> assuming that women are seeking their attention, failing to read obvious body language that expresses a lack of interest on the part of the targeted woman, and failing to take "no" for an answer. It's revealing that whereas some women are reappropriating the term "slut", MRAs aren't lining up to "own" the designation of "creep". </p> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Making_women_vulnerable"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Making women vulnerable</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Who_complains"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Who complains</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Relationship_with_slut_shaming"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Relationship with slut shaming</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Creeps_and_flirting"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Creeps and flirting</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Disability"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Disability</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#See_also"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">See also</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#Notes"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">Notes</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#References"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">References</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Making_women_vulnerable">Making women vulnerable</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Creep_shaming&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Making women vulnerable">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>The "anti-creep shaming campaign" is about discouraging people from protecting themselves from harm. A person sometimes intuitively feels they are not safe with another, but is made to feel guilty about acting on this feeling. Astute readers may recognize that as a tactic often used by anyone seeking to emotionally manipulate another; i.e. abusive behavior. </p> <table style="margin: auto; border-collapse:collapse; border-style:none; background-color:transparent;" class="cquote"> <tbody><tr> <td><div style="padding:4px 50px;position:relative;"><span style="position:absolute;left:10px;top:-6px;z-index:1;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-weight:bold;color:#B2B7F2;font-size:36px">“</span><span style="position:absolute;right:10px;bottom:-20px;z-index:1;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-weight:bold;color:#B2B7F2;font-size:36px">”</span>[I]t's a really freaking dangerous idea to twist a woman's open, honest communication about her boundaries/expectations into ‘creep shaming' that victimizes men.</div> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="padding:4px 10px 8px;font-size:smaller;line-height:1.6em;text-align:right;"><cite style="font-style:normal;position:relative;z-index:2">—Jessica Wakeman<sup id="cite_ref-repeat_3-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-repeat-3">[2]</a></sup></cite> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p>An example which had some impact in the blogosphere in 2012 occurred when blogger Jessica Wakeman posted an "open letter" about a bad dating experience which had culminated in her being called "mean and bitchy" as well as "crazy."<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-4">[3]</a></sup> In the comments thread, one reader posted a lengthy comment very much taking the man's side and explaining his behaviour as a response to feeling "creep shamed."<sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-5">[4]</a></sup> Wakemen responded to this comment in her next blog, entitled "Why 'Creep Shaming' Is Total BS", again prompting hostile comments from MRA supporters.<sup id="cite_ref-repeat_3-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-repeat-3">[2]</a></sup> Other bloggers picked up on this issue, exploring the phenomenon of creep shaming as well as connotations of the word "creep" itself.<sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-6">[5]</a></sup> </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Who_complains">Who complains</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Creep_shaming&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Who complains">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>According to the MRAs who coined the phrase, creep shaming is a weapon that people (<a href="/wiki/Feminist" class="mw-redirect" title="Feminist">feminists</a> in particular) use to <a href="/wiki/Persecution_complex" title="Persecution complex">"persecute"</a> <a href="/wiki/Men" class="mw-redirect" title="Men">men</a>, and an example of female "<a href="/wiki/Privilege" title="Privilege">privilege</a>." </p><p>An example of this worldview can be seen in this comment posted on Reddit in 2011, which has since become a popular talking point in both MRA and feminist circles: </p> <blockquote class="letter" style="width:auto; background:#f8f8ff; border:1px solid #C9C9CF;"> <p>Creep shaming is probably one of the most insidious and anti-equality things you can do. The ability to label men as "creepy" is just one privilege that women enjoy, and a constant source of fear of ostracizing that all men must fear in our society.<sup id="cite_ref-7" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-7">[6]</a></sup> </p> </blockquote> <p>The people who like to throw the term around tend to be bitter <a href="/wiki/Misogyny" title="Misogyny">misogynists</a> with a near-total lack of self-awareness, and therefore avoid paying attention to the whole context of what "creepiness" is. The term 'creep' describes effectively when someone has overstepped someone else's boundaries and may make it hard to avoid reflecting on the impact of this behavior. A person can only stop being a creep by genuinely respecting others and their boundaries more. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Lucas_Werner" title="Lucas Werner">Lucas Werner</a> claimed that the word "creep" is analogous to racist and homophobic slurs, and that it is ageist because it is often applied to older men who pursue younger women.<sup id="cite_ref-werner_8-0" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-werner-8">[7]</a></sup> </p><p>Some uses of the creep shaming <a href="/wiki/Meme" title="Meme">meme</a> also tie in with other common ideas among misogynists, such as a disdain for women having agency and the <a href="/wiki/Pick-up_artist" title="Pick-up artist">pick-up artist</a> view that if your attempts at seducing a woman don't work, there must be something wrong with <i>her</i> and not you. These misogynists also appear to believe that a woman trying to avoid a man she considers a possible threat is worse than the prospect of a guy not being able to pursue a woman. The subtext is that these guys don't want to acknowledge that they may actually have some personality issues to work out before most women will show interest in them, so instead they attack women for, essentially, having standards and an instinct for self-preservation. It's essentially entitled <a href="/wiki/Nice_guy" class="mw-redirect" title="Nice guy">NiceGuyism</a> turned into a <a href="/wiki/Debate" title="Debate">debating</a> point. </p><p>People who complain about creep-shaming tend to make the common assumption that equality equals fairness. Equality in the dating sphere is a goal both men and women should work towards but fairness has nothing to do with how one feels about someone else and it is entirely a judgement call made by someone else. </p><p>Another common criticism by men is that there is no equivalent of "creep" that can be applied to a woman.<sup id="cite_ref-9" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-9">[8]</a></sup> There are many adjectives and nouns that are used to describe similar behaviour in women, from "bunny boiler"<sup id="cite_ref-10" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-10">[9]</a></sup> and "stalker" to "needy", "clingy", and "desperate". </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Relationship_with_slut_shaming">Relationship with slut shaming</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Creep_shaming&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Relationship with slut shaming">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Practitioners of slut shaming and the anti-creep-shaming crowd are making the same fundamental assumption about human <a href="/wiki/Sexuality" title="Sexuality">sexuality</a>. Both are essentially arguments from <a href="/wiki/Biological_determinism" title="Biological determinism">biological determinism</a>. Slut shaming operates under the assumption that women are not supposed to be sexually active and/or have sexual desires. Some versions of decrying creep shaming are taking the related traditionalist argument, that the male sex drive is all-powerful and therefore <a href="/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy" class="mw-redirect" title="Naturalistic fallacy">it is inappropriate to criticize</a> "creeps" for being slaves to their genitalia: a concept which might itself be called creepy. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Creeps_and_flirting">Creeps and flirting</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Creep_shaming&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Creeps and flirting">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>There's a difference between "creepy" behaviour and flirting. The women who protest against actual creeps do not want to prevent men from ever trying to sexually or romantically pursue women, but draw awareness to the fact that there are respectful and appropriate ways of doing so. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Disability">Disability</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Creep_shaming&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Disability">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>The above aside, there exist legitimate disabilities out there, such as <a href="/wiki/Autism" title="Autism">autism</a>, that genuinely hamper social skills and social awareness by those who have the disorders in question and haven't yet learnt how to master social situations, so "creep shaming" may actually be somewhat, even if unintentionally, <a href="/wiki/Ableist" class="mw-redirect" title="Ableist">ableist</a> on the part of those doing the "shaming." There is a caveat however in that disability and how it relates to supposed "creep shaming" is not something to use as a cudgel against feminists, though no doubt some rather disingenuous reactionary bigots will try. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="See_also">See also</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Creep_shaming&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: See also">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Manosphere_glossary" title="Manosphere glossary">Manosphere glossary</a></li></ul> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Notes">Notes</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Creep_shaming&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Notes">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <div class="references-small" style="font-size:90%;"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-2">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">In non-sexual situations; when you're at, say, SwingerCon 2016 this is probably part of the <i>point</i>.</span> </li> </ol></div></div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="References">References</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Creep_shaming&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: References">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <div class="references-small" style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2; font-size:80%;"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-privilege-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-privilege_1-0">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><i>A Voice for Men</i>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/use-of-the-word-%E2%80%9Ccreep%E2%80%9D-demonstrates-female-privilege/">"Use of the Word “Creep” Demonstrates Female Privilege"</a>, John the Other, March 6, 2011.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-repeat-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink">↑ <sup><a href="#cite_ref-repeat_3-0">2.0</a></sup> <sup><a href="#cite_ref-repeat_3-1">2.1</a></sup></span> <span class="reference-text"><i>The Frisky</i>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://thefrisky.com/the-soapbox-why-creep-shaming-is-total-bs/">"Why “Creep Shaming” Is Total BS"</a> Jessica Wakeman, April 6, 2012.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-4"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-4">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><i>The Frisky</i>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20170411012253/http://www.thefrisky.com/2012-04-06/an-open-letter-to-the-guy-who-called-me-crazy/">"An Open Letter To The Guy Who Called Me “Crazy”"</a>, Jessica Wakeman, April 6, 2012.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-5"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-5">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.thefrisky.com/2012-04-06/an-open-letter-to-the-guy-who-called-me-crazy/#comment-492361258">Comment by ConfessionalID</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-6"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-6">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">For example, see Olivia Davis, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://goodmenproject.com/gender-fight/on-creep-and-creep-shaming">On “Creep” and “Creep-Shaming”</a>. goodmenproject.com, 25 April 2012.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-7"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-7">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.reddit.com/r/BigotryShowcase/comments/lnb70/guy_is_accused_of_being_a_creep_while_waiting_for/c2u3310">Comment by AntiBigots</a> in a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.reddit.com/r/BigotryShowcase/comments/lnb70/guy_is_accused_of_being_a_creep_while_waiting_for">Reddit thread</a> that is rich in butthurt.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-werner-8"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-werner_8-0">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2708880">/* Errors processing stylesheet [[:Module:Citation/CS1/styles.css]] (rev 2708880): • Invalid or unsupported value for property ⧼code⧽background⧼/code⧽ at line 44 character 14. • Invalid or unsupported value for property ⧼code⧽background⧼/code⧽ at line 50 character 14. • Invalid or unsupported value for property ⧼code⧽background⧼/code⧽ at line 55 character 14. • Invalid or unsupported value for property ⧼code⧽background⧼/code⧽ at line 64 character 14. • Invalid or unsupported value for property ⧼code⧽color⧼/code⧽ at line 96 character 9. • Invalid or unsupported value for property 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