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Each podcast includes discussions of moral philosophy, recent work on moral psychology and neuroscience, and the overlap between the two.</div></div></div></div><div><div></div></div></div><div class="leftContainer"><div class="main"><div class="topRow clearfix"><div class="con"><div class="trackListCon"><div class="clearfix"><div class="trackListCon_title">309<!-- --> Episodes</div><div class="right funcBtn"><span class="funcBtn-item">Reverse</span></div></div><div id="trackListCon_list" class="trackListCon_list"><div><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-305%3A-Emile-Is-the-Name-of-the-Goat-(with-Paul-Bloom)-id5444148-id791531360"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 305: Emile Is the Name of the Goat (with Paul Bloom)" title="Episode 305: Emile Is the Name of the Goat (with Paul Bloom)"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-305%3A-Emile-Is-the-Name-of-the-Goat-(with-Paul-Bloom)-id5444148-id791531360"><p title="Episode 305: Emile Is the Name of the Goat (with Paul Bloom)" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 305: Emile Is the Name of the Goat (with Paul Bloom)</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2025-03-25</span><span class="item icon time">01:44:25</span><span class="item"><img class="heart" src="data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACQAAAAgCAMAAABNTyq8AAAAtFBMVEUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABSe1G2AAAAPHRSTlMAAQIDBAYHCAkKCwwPEBESExUWGBkaGxwdHicoKSorLjA0NTY3ODk6Ozw9Pj9CQ0RGR0hJSktMTU5QUVIiOXN/AAAA0UlEQVQYGY3Bi1KCQACG0W+z0jTS7laWRhaWZZlCuf/7v1cMAw4QsJ5Dov8cSQqnfVIn/trKhk8emc6nMt8eseMvZRZtEgOrnAcYKcd6xLpWBf6jCmwHWMphCWdyOuVVTgG/cvpBO0A7QG6WUE5rAjm9cCWnc8xGDhsDEzmMgX2rRrZF7FaN7kis1GBlSBypQZfUULVu2BqrxoScQJVm5Jm5KrwbCsyb/pkbynyVTKkwUsE9lS6Uc0mNXqRU1KPWXqDErEWTayvZIQ4HH4tDSv4Akfi9Cqw4eqYAAAAASUVORK5CYII="/>2</span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-305%3A-Emile-Is-the-Name-of-the-Goat-(with-Paul-Bloom)-id5444148-id791531360"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">VBW favorite Paul Bloom joins us to break down the Severance season finale and season 2 in general. We all agree that it’s a much-needed return to form and debate some of the choices and questions the episode raises. Plus, an evolutionary account of the ‘ick’  and the adaptive trait of graceful ping-pong ball chasing.  Collisson, B., Saunders, E., &amp; Yin, C. (2025). The ick: Disgust sensitivity, narcissism, and perfectionism in mate choice thresholds. Personality and Individual Differences, 238, 113086. Very Bad Wizards Episode 236: Your Outie is Skilled at Lovemaking (with Paul Bloom) Paul&#x27;s Substack Newsletter &quot;Small Potatoes&quot;</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-304%3A-The-Planes-Don&#x27;t-Land-id5444148-id786988559"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 304: The Planes Don&#x27;t Land" title="Episode 304: The Planes Don&#x27;t Land"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-304%3A-The-Planes-Don&#x27;t-Land-id5444148-id786988559"><p title="Episode 304: The Planes Don&#x27;t Land" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 304: The Planes Don&#x27;t Land</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2025-03-11</span><span class="item icon time">01:40:27</span><span class="item"><img class="heart" src="data:image/png;base64,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"/>2</span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-304%3A-The-Planes-Don&#x27;t-Land-id5444148-id786988559"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">What has four thumbs and can effortlessly glide from the a priori to the a posteriori in a single episode? These guys. In the first segment we tackle a brand new paper called “Being Exalted: an A Priori Argument for the Trinity.” That’s right, the Holy Trinity arrived at through reason alone. Then in the main segment we talk about Richard Feynman’s classic 1974 Caltech commencement address “Cargo Cult Science.” Does Feynman’s metaphor suggest that whole paradigms might be systematically misguided? Or is he just admonishing social scientists to maintain their integrity and use more rigorous methods? As you might imagine, a fight almost breaks out in this one.  Moore, H. J. (2025). Being Exalted: An A Priori Argument for the Trinity. Sophia, 1-23. [link.springer.com] Cargo Cult Science by Richard Feynman [caltech.edu] Interrogating the “cargo cult science” metaphor by Andrew Gelman and Megan Higgs [columbia.edu]</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-303%3A-Measure-This-id5444148-id782745844"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 303: Measure This" title="Episode 303: Measure This"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-303%3A-Measure-This-id5444148-id782745844"><p title="Episode 303: Measure This" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 303: Measure This</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2025-02-25</span><span class="item icon time">01:26:20</span><span class="item"><img class="heart" src="data:image/png;base64,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"/>1</span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-303%3A-Measure-This-id5444148-id782745844"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">Everyone knows Tamler hates numbers but he’s not the only one who worries about them. We talk about the philosopher C. Thi Nguyen’s excellent paper “Value Capture” which examines how the ever-increasing presence of metrics, data, indicators, rankings, and other forms quantification shape our values as individuals and institutions. Plus, VBW Does Conceptual Analysis – we’re on to the ‘S’ words now: smug.  Nguyen, C. T. (2024). Value capture. J. Ethics &amp; Soc. Phil., 27, 469.</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-302%3A-Metaphysical-Edging-id5444148-id778732213"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 302: Metaphysical Edging" title="Episode 302: Metaphysical Edging"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-302%3A-Metaphysical-Edging-id5444148-id778732213"><p title="Episode 302: Metaphysical Edging" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 302: Metaphysical Edging</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2025-02-11</span><span class="item icon time">01:17:08</span><span class="item"></span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-302%3A-Metaphysical-Edging-id5444148-id778732213"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">What makes something weird? What makes something eerie? David and Tamler wander into Mark Fisher’s The Weird and the Eerie to learn more about these concepts. How does weird art expand our imagination of what’s possible? Why does the feeling of eeriness dissolve when we get an explanation for what we see? What draws us to phenomena that evoke these unsettling feelings?   Plus – DeepSeek has Silicon Valley shitting themselves but how does it really stack up against good old American AI? The Weird and the Eerie by Mark Fisher [amazon.com affiliate link]</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-301%3A-Believing-is-Seeing--id5444148-id774647508"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 301: Believing is Seeing?" title="Episode 301: Believing is Seeing?"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-301%3A-Believing-is-Seeing--id5444148-id774647508"><p title="Episode 301: Believing is Seeing?" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 301: Believing is Seeing?</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2025-01-28</span><span class="item icon time">01:29:34</span><span class="item"></span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-301%3A-Believing-is-Seeing--id5444148-id774647508"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">It’s Back 2 Basics: Psychology edition! Do coins look bigger to poor people? Do hills look steeper to people wearing heavy backpacks? What’s the difference between perception and attention, or perception and judgment? David and Tamler discuss the long standing debate over whether our beliefs, desires, and past experience can penetrate our vision and change our visual perception. Plus some thoughts on the passing of Tamler’s favorite artist David Lynch. Firestone, C., &amp; Scholl, B. J. (2016).  Cognition does not affect perception: Evaluating the evidence for “top-down” effects. Behavioral and brain sciences, 39, e229. Cognitive Penetration and the Epistemology of Perception by Nico Silins  Bruner, J. S., &amp; Goodman, C. C. (1947). Value and need as organizing factors in perception. The journal of abnormal and social psychology, 42(1), 33. Fodor, Jerry A. &quot;Precis of the modularity of mind.&quot; Behavioral and brain sciences 8.1 (1985): 1-5.</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-300%3A-If-We-Only-Had-A-Brain-id5444148-id770524465"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 300: If We Only Had A Brain" title="Episode 300: If We Only Had A Brain"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-300%3A-If-We-Only-Had-A-Brain-id5444148-id770524465"><p title="Episode 300: If We Only Had A Brain" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 300: If We Only Had A Brain</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2025-01-14</span><span class="item icon time">01:48:00</span><span class="item"></span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-300%3A-If-We-Only-Had-A-Brain-id5444148-id770524465"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">David and Tamler celebrate their 300th episode with a deep dive into the movie that inspired the podcast’s title. Why is &quot;The Wizard of Oz&quot; the most influential American movie of all time? How does it dig deep into our collective psyches? What makes the effects so timeless and effective? And what’s the actual moral of the story? Plus we crawl up our own asses and talk about what we’re proud of from last year, excited for in 2025, and the ways the podcast has changed since episode 1. The Wizard of Oz (1939)[wikipedia.org] Roger Ebert&#x27;s review of The Wizard of Oz [rogerebert.com] The Wizard of Oz as allegory for atheism [forgetfulfilmcritic.com] Technicolor [wikipedia.org] A Very Bad Wizard: Morality Behind the Curtain by Tamler Sommers [amazon.com affiliate link] Break Music [soundcloud.com]</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-299%3A-Oh-the-Humility!-id5444148-id765335333"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 299: Oh the Humility!" title="Episode 299: Oh the Humility!"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-299%3A-Oh-the-Humility!-id5444148-id765335333"><p title="Episode 299: Oh the Humility!" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 299: Oh the Humility!</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2024-12-24</span><span class="item icon time">02:06:32</span><span class="item"><img class="heart" src="data:image/png;base64,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"/>2</span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-299%3A-Oh-the-Humility!-id5444148-id765335333"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">David and Tamler wrap up the new year talking about intellectual virtues and Rachel Fraser’s excellent essay “Against Humility.” What is intellectual humility exactly and do we need it for knowledge and understanding? Does the value of humility depend on the person or the circumstances? Are there contexts where intellectual arrogance is the epistemic virtue? We arrive at the definitive answers to these questions and anyone who disagrees with us is a stupid idiot. Plus in the second segment we present THE AMBIES (..the ambies), the final episode of &quot;The Ambulators,&quot; our episode by episode breakdown of David Milch’s Deadwood. It’s a clip-filled awards ceremony to celebrate what might be the great TV series of all time. Highlights include Best Quote, Best Scene, Best Character (other than Al), Best Slur, Best Antisemitic slur, and lots more. &quot;Why intellectual humility isn&#x27;t always a virtue&quot; by Rachel Fraser [aeon.co] Deadwood (TV Series) [wikipedia.org]</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-298%3A-Pass-the-Peace-Pipe-id5444148-id761198189"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 298: Pass the Peace Pipe" title="Episode 298: Pass the Peace Pipe"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-298%3A-Pass-the-Peace-Pipe-id5444148-id761198189"><p title="Episode 298: Pass the Peace Pipe" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 298: Pass the Peace Pipe</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2024-12-10</span><span class="item icon time">01:20:38</span><span class="item"><img class="heart" src="data:image/png;base64,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"/>1</span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-298%3A-Pass-the-Peace-Pipe-id5444148-id761198189"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">Why do we punish people? How did our punishment practices evolve and what is their primary function? David and Tamler talk about a new paper that examines punitive justice in three small-scale societies - the Kiowa equestrian foragers in late 19th century North America, Mentawai horticulturalists in Indonesia, and Nuer pastoralists. The authors challenge the dominant view of punishment as a means of norm enforcement arguing instead that its main function is reconciliation, restoring cooperative relationships, and preventing further violence. Get ready for runaway pigs, peace pipes, wife stealing, banana stealing, black magic, leopard-skin chiefs, and David maybe finally coming around to restorative justice. Plus we choose from a long list of fantastic topic suggestions from our beloved Patreon supporters and narrow down to six finalists for the listener selected episode. Fitouchi, L., &amp; Singh, M. (2023). Punitive justice serves to restore reciprocal cooperation in three small-scale societies. Evolution and Human Behavior, 44(5), 502-514. Third-party punishment [wikipedia.org]</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-297%3A-No-Pleasure-in-Meanness-(Flannery-O&#x27;Connor&#x27;s-&quot;A-Good-Man-is-Hard-to-Find&quot;)-id5444148-id756774592"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 297: No Pleasure in Meanness (Flannery O&#x27;Connor&#x27;s &quot;A Good Man is Hard to Find&quot;)" title="Episode 297: No Pleasure in Meanness (Flannery O&#x27;Connor&#x27;s &quot;A Good Man is Hard to Find&quot;)"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-297%3A-No-Pleasure-in-Meanness-(Flannery-O&#x27;Connor&#x27;s-&quot;A-Good-Man-is-Hard-to-Find&quot;)-id5444148-id756774592"><p title="Episode 297: No Pleasure in Meanness (Flannery O&#x27;Connor&#x27;s &quot;A Good Man is Hard to Find&quot;)" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 297: No Pleasure in Meanness (Flannery O&#x27;Connor&#x27;s &quot;A Good Man is Hard to Find&quot;)</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2024-11-26</span><span class="item icon time">01:41:24</span><span class="item"><img class="heart" src="data:image/png;base64,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"/>2</span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-297%3A-No-Pleasure-in-Meanness-(Flannery-O&#x27;Connor&#x27;s-&quot;A-Good-Man-is-Hard-to-Find&quot;)-id5444148-id756774592"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">David and Tamler face off with the Misfit in Flannery O’Connor’s classic short story “A Good Man is Hard to Find.” We sort through the biblical allusions, dark comedy, nihilism, and the possibility of grace or rebirth (but whose?). Plus why do motorists dehumanize cyclists? Is it the helmets? Sounds like a job for the insect-based &quot;Ascent of Man&quot; scale. Limb, M., &amp; Collyer, S. (2023). The effect of safety attire on perceptions of cyclist dehumanisation. Transportation research part F: traffic psychology and behaviour, 95, 494-509. &quot;A Good Man is Hard to Find (short story)&quot; [wikipedia.org] A Good Man is Hard to Find and Other Stories by Flannery O&#x27;Connor [amazon.com affiliate link] (note: you can google for a .pdf of the story and you&#x27;ll find some links floating around!)</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-296%3A-The-Other-CRT-id5444148-id752693376"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 296: The Other CRT" title="Episode 296: The Other CRT"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-296%3A-The-Other-CRT-id5444148-id752693376"><p title="Episode 296: The Other CRT" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 296: The Other CRT</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2024-11-12</span><span class="item icon time">01:03:22</span><span class="item"></span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-296%3A-The-Other-CRT-id5444148-id752693376"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">David and Tamler share a few brief thoughts on the election and then raise some questions about Tucker Carlson being attacked by a demon as he slept in the woods with his wife and four dogs (still don’t believe in ghosts, people?). In the main segment we talk about one of the most popular measures in social psychology – the cognitive reflection test (CRT). Originally designed to identify differences in people’s ability to employ reflection (system 2) to override their initial intuition (system 1), this three-item measure has mushroomed into its own industry with researchers linking CRT scores to job performance, religious belief, conspiracy theorizing and more. But what psychological attribute is this test supposed to measure exactly, and how can we determine its validity? And has the dual process system 1/system 2 framework outlived its usefulness?  Tucker Carlson was totally mauled by a demon and not scratched by his dogs [youtube.com] Frederick, S. (2005). Cognitive reflection and decision making. Journal of Economic Perspectives, 19(4), 25-42. Blacksmith, N., Yang, Y., Ruark, G., &amp; Behrend, T. (2018, July). A Validity Analysis of the Cognitive Reflection Test Using an Item-Response-Tree Model. In Academy of Management Proceedings (Vol. 2018, No. 1, p. 18090). Briarcliff Manor, NY 10510: Academy of Management. Erceg, N., Galić, Z., &amp; Ružojčić, M. (2020). A reflection on cognitive reflection–testing convergent/divergent validity of two measures of cognitive reflection. Judgment and Decision making, 15(5), 741-755. Meyer, A., &amp; Frederick, S. (2023). The formation and revision of intuitions. Cognition, 240, 105380.</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-295%3A-Guess-Who&#x27;s-Coming-to-Dinner-id5444148-id748708351"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 295: Guess Who&#x27;s Coming to Dinner" title="Episode 295: Guess Who&#x27;s Coming to Dinner"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-295%3A-Guess-Who&#x27;s-Coming-to-Dinner-id5444148-id748708351"><p title="Episode 295: Guess Who&#x27;s Coming to Dinner" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 295: Guess Who&#x27;s Coming to Dinner</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2024-10-29</span><span class="item icon time">01:33:57</span><span class="item"></span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-295%3A-Guess-Who&#x27;s-Coming-to-Dinner-id5444148-id748708351"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">David and Tamler hop into their Scooby Van and drive into Tobe Hooper’s mad and macabre horror classic The Texas Chain Saw Massacre.  How does this endlessly imitated movie still have the power to scare the shit out of people fifty years after its release? We talk about the sounds, smells, heat, and sweat (but not so much the blood) that pour out of the screen. And we dare to ask the question: are the Sawyers – a family of craftsmen and artists, committed to sustainability and fine dining – actually the victims here? Plus we take and fail a test to see if we can identify fake Republicans and Democrats.  Hart, M., &amp; Nazarian, N. (2024) Season&#x27;s mis-greetings: why timing matters in global academia. Nature. Both Democrats and Republicans can pass the Ideological Turing Test [experimental-history.com] The Ideological Turing Test [ituringtest.com] The Texas Chain Saw Massacre [wikipedia.org]  </div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-294%3A-The-Scandal-of-Philosophy-(Hume&#x27;s-Problem-of-Induction)-id5444148-id742879211"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 294: The Scandal of Philosophy (Hume&#x27;s Problem of Induction)" title="Episode 294: The Scandal of Philosophy (Hume&#x27;s Problem of Induction)"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-294%3A-The-Scandal-of-Philosophy-(Hume&#x27;s-Problem-of-Induction)-id5444148-id742879211"><p title="Episode 294: The Scandal of Philosophy (Hume&#x27;s Problem of Induction)" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 294: The Scandal of Philosophy (Hume&#x27;s Problem of Induction)</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2024-10-08</span><span class="item icon time">01:13:30</span><span class="item"></span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-294%3A-The-Scandal-of-Philosophy-(Hume&#x27;s-Problem-of-Induction)-id5444148-id742879211"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">CD Broad called induction “the glory of science and the scandal of philosophy.” As a matter of habit, we’re all confident that the sun will rise tomorrow morning and that we can predict where the planets and stars will be tomorrow night. But what’s the rational justification for beliefs like this? According David Hume, there is none. Deductive justifications can’t give you new information about the world, and inductive justifications are circular, they beg the question. David and Tamler dive into the notorious problem of induction and some (failed?) attempts to offer a resolution. Plus, an article about toddlers and small children who seem to remember their past lives – what should we make of these reports? And is &quot;remembering a past life&quot; and &quot;being possessed by the ghost of that person&quot; a distinction without a difference? The Children Who Remember Past Lives [washington post.com] Ian Stevenson - criticisms [wikipedia.org] The Problem of Induction [plato.stanford.edu] Salmon, W. C. (1978). Unfinished business: The problem of induction. Philosophical Studies: An International Journal for Philosophy in the Analytic Tradition, 33(1), 1-19.  </div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-293%3A-Who-Is-the-Dreamer--(Borges&#x27;-&quot;The-Circular-Ruins&quot;)-id5444148-id739498367"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 293: Who Is the Dreamer? (Borges&#x27; &quot;The Circular Ruins&quot;)" title="Episode 293: Who Is the Dreamer? 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(Borges&#x27; &quot;The Circular Ruins&quot;)</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2024-09-24</span><span class="item icon time">01:25:33</span><span class="item"><img class="heart" src="data:image/png;base64,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"/>1</span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-293%3A-Who-Is-the-Dreamer--(Borges&#x27;-&quot;The-Circular-Ruins&quot;)-id5444148-id739498367"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">David and Tamler crawl up a riverbank, kiss the mud, and dream a discussion of Borges’ “The Circular Ruins.” We sort through various interpretations and allusions, the story as a metaphor for artistic creation, gnostic cosmology, solipsism, eternal recursion, and the unstable boundary between reality and illusion. How does Borges fit all of this and much more in a 5 page story? Plus, Scientific American endorses Kamala Harris – is that a big deal? We look at a study purporting to show that Nature’s Biden endorsement eroded trust in science among Trump supporters. Political endorsement by Nature and trust in scientific expertise during COVID-19 [nature.com] The Circular Ruins by Jorge Luis Borges [wikipedia.org]  </div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-292%3A-Boundary-Issues-id5444148-id735906250"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 292: Boundary Issues" title="Episode 292: Boundary Issues"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-292%3A-Boundary-Issues-id5444148-id735906250"><p title="Episode 292: Boundary Issues" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 292: Boundary Issues</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2024-09-10</span><span class="item icon time">01:15:16</span><span class="item"><img class="heart" src="data:image/png;base64,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"/>1</span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-292%3A-Boundary-Issues-id5444148-id735906250"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">David and Tamler lead off with a breakdown of the new commercial for “friend (not imaginary)” a new AI necklace that takes hikes with you, interrupts your favorite shows, and will be there for your first kiss. Then we talk about a new paper co-authored by VBW favorite Joe Henrich that challenges cognitive science for pretending to be universal without offering evidence. A good discussion punctuated by David’s new theory of the rise of the autism. (TLDL the nerds are having sex).  Friend Reveal Trailer [youtube.com] Kroupin, I., Davis, H. E., &amp; Henrich, J. (2024). Beyond Newton: Why assumptions of universality are critical to cognitive science, and how to finally move past them. Psychological Review. [harvard.edu]</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-291%3A-Shoe-Shining-id5444148-id731391344"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 291: Shoe Shining" title="Episode 291: Shoe Shining"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-291%3A-Shoe-Shining-id5444148-id731391344"><p title="Episode 291: Shoe Shining" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 291: Shoe Shining</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2024-08-27</span><span class="item icon time">02:12:11</span><span class="item"><img class="heart" src="data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACQAAAAgCAMAAABNTyq8AAAAtFBMVEUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABSe1G2AAAAPHRSTlMAAQIDBAYHCAkKCwwPEBESExUWGBkaGxwdHicoKSorLjA0NTY3ODk6Ozw9Pj9CQ0RGR0hJSktMTU5QUVIiOXN/AAAA0UlEQVQYGY3Bi1KCQACG0W+z0jTS7laWRhaWZZlCuf/7v1cMAw4QsJ5Dov8cSQqnfVIn/trKhk8emc6nMt8eseMvZRZtEgOrnAcYKcd6xLpWBf6jCmwHWMphCWdyOuVVTgG/cvpBO0A7QG6WUE5rAjm9cCWnc8xGDhsDEzmMgX2rRrZF7FaN7kis1GBlSBypQZfUULVu2BqrxoScQJVm5Jm5KrwbCsyb/pkbynyVTKkwUsE9lS6Uc0mNXqRU1KPWXqDErEWTayvZIQ4HH4tDSv4Akfi9Cqw4eqYAAAAASUVORK5CYII="/>1</span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-291%3A-Shoe-Shining-id5444148-id731391344"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">Cornell philosopher David Shoemaker joins us for a long winding journey up to the Overlook Hotel, a DEEP dive on Stanley Kubrick’s The Shining. We tackle all the big questions - is the hotel truly haunted? What if anything does it symbolize? Why are there two Gradys and two sets of daughters?  How does the filmmaking – and the Steadicam in particular - amplify our sense of dread?  Does Jack shine too? How does he get out of the storage closet? Is Shelly Duval’s performance actually brilliant? What the fuck is up with Bill? Should the Overlook have included a land acknowledgment? And lots more. Come listen to us, forever and ever and ever…. David Shoemaker&#x27;s website [sites.google.com] Wisecracks by David Shoemaker [amazon.com afilliate link] Review of Wisecracks by Kieran Setiya [atlantic.com] The Shining [wikipedia.org]</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-290%3A-Blinded-by-the-Light-(Plato&#x27;s-Cave-Pt.-2)-id5444148-id725534254"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 290: Blinded by the Light (Plato&#x27;s Cave Pt. 2)" title="Episode 290: Blinded by the Light (Plato&#x27;s Cave Pt. 2)"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-290%3A-Blinded-by-the-Light-(Plato&#x27;s-Cave-Pt.-2)-id5444148-id725534254"><p title="Episode 290: Blinded by the Light (Plato&#x27;s Cave Pt. 2)" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 290: Blinded by the Light (Plato&#x27;s Cave Pt. 2)</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2024-08-06</span><span class="item icon time">01:37:16</span><span class="item"><img class="heart" src="data:image/png;base64,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"/>1</span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-290%3A-Blinded-by-the-Light-(Plato&#x27;s-Cave-Pt.-2)-id5444148-id725534254"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">David and Tamler continue their discussion of Plato’s allegory of the cave. We talk about the connections with mystical traditions including Gnosticism, Sufism, and Buddhist paths to awakening. We also dig deeper into what Socrates calls ‘dialectic’ – what allows this method to journey towards the first principle (the Form of the Good) and then double back to justify the initial assumptions made at the start? And if only philosophers can embark on this journey, why does everyone think of them as useless and corrupt?  Plus we look at some research that attempts to provide empirical support for ‘terror management theory’ which makes us yearn for the unfalsifiability of Ernest Becker’s The Denial of Death. Links Schimel, J., Hayes, J., Williams, T., &amp; Jahrig, J. (2007). Is death really the worm at the core? Converging evidence that worldview threat increases death-thought accessibility. Journal of personality and social psychology, 92(5), 789. [researchgate.net] Many Labs 4: Failure to replicate Mortality Salience Effect With and Without Original Author Involvement [ucpress.edu] Neoplatonism [wikipedia.org] Neoplatonism and Gnosticism [wikipedia.org] Plato&#x27;s Unwritten Doctrines [wikipedia.org]</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-289%3A-Shadows-on-the-Wall-(Plato&#x27;s-Cave-Pt.-1)-id5444148-id721677519"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 289: Shadows on the Wall (Plato&#x27;s Cave Pt. 1)" title="Episode 289: Shadows on the Wall (Plato&#x27;s Cave Pt. 1)"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-289%3A-Shadows-on-the-Wall-(Plato&#x27;s-Cave-Pt.-1)-id5444148-id721677519"><p title="Episode 289: Shadows on the Wall (Plato&#x27;s Cave Pt. 1)" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 289: Shadows on the Wall (Plato&#x27;s Cave Pt. 1)</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2024-07-23</span><span class="item icon time">01:12:17</span><span class="item"><img class="heart" src="data:image/png;base64,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"/>3</span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-289%3A-Shadows-on-the-Wall-(Plato&#x27;s-Cave-Pt.-1)-id5444148-id721677519"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">Over the years we’ve referred repeatedly to Plato’s cave, Platonic forms, and phrases like “copies of copies” without ever really explaining what we mean by these things. So as part of a new mini-series we’re going dive deeper into Plato’s famous images of the cave, the sun, and the divided line from Republic Books 6 and 7. What are Plato’s forms and how do they fit into the overall structure of his most famous dialogue? How does the form of the good relate to the other forms? What are the mystical elements of the cave metaphor? (Note: this is part one of a two-part discussion). Plus, if we could go back in time and give one piece of professional advice to a younger version of ourselves, what would that be? Plato&#x27;s allegory of the cave (this has a couple of useful illustrations) [wikipedia.org] Republic (Hackett Classics) translated by G.M.A. Grube [amazon.com affiliate link] (you can get full text PDF files of Plato&#x27;s Republic for free all over the internet, but this is the version we&#x27;re using) Let us know where we should hold our 300th episode listener meet-up [surveymonkey.com]</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-288%3A-The-Despised-Foot-(The-Denial-of-Death-Pt.-2)-id5444148-id717917752"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 288: The Despised Foot (The Denial of Death Pt. 2)" title="Episode 288: The Despised Foot (The Denial of Death Pt. 2)"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-288%3A-The-Despised-Foot-(The-Denial-of-Death-Pt.-2)-id5444148-id717917752"><p title="Episode 288: The Despised Foot (The Denial of Death Pt. 2)" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 288: The Despised Foot (The Denial of Death Pt. 2)</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2024-07-09</span><span class="item icon time">01:30:05</span><span class="item"><img class="heart" src="data:image/png;base64,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"/>1</span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-288%3A-The-Despised-Foot-(The-Denial-of-Death-Pt.-2)-id5444148-id717917752"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">David and Tamler conclude their discussion of Ernest Becker’s The Denial of Death. We talk about Becker’s philosophy of science (does he have one?), his sweeping explanations for strongman leaders, neuroses, mental illness, sexual fetishes, and the refreshing absence of an answer or resolution to the existential paradox at the heart of being human. Plus, a special Pod Save the Wizards intro - we have a political gabfest about Biden, the infamous debate, Kamala Harris, and more… The Denial of Death by Ernest Becker [amazon.com affiliate link] The Denial of Death [wikipedia.org] Let us know where we should hold our 300th episode listener meet-up [surveymonkey.com]</div></div></section><section class="episodeRow isExplicit opacityinAnimate"><div class="ep-item"><div class="ep-item-cover"><a href="/episode/Episode-287%3A-Gods-With-Anuses-(The-Denial-of-Death-Pt.-1)-id5444148-id713600122"><div style="display:inline-block;height:100%;width:100%;overflow:hidden;border-radius:4px;background-color:#A9B8AD" class="coverImgContainer"><img style="display:inline-block;opacity:1;width:100%;height:100%" src="https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts125/v4/ec/81/05/ec810579-2ae9-70c4-2e06-a6e817063a1b/mza_8507663316150949613.jpg/400x400bb.jpg" class="image" alt="Episode 287: Gods With Anuses (The Denial of Death Pt. 1)" title="Episode 287: Gods With Anuses (The Denial of Death Pt. 1)"/></div></a></div><div class="ep-item-con"><a href="/episode/Episode-287%3A-Gods-With-Anuses-(The-Denial-of-Death-Pt.-1)-id5444148-id713600122"><p title="Episode 287: Gods With Anuses (The Denial of Death Pt. 1)" class="ep-item-con-title"><span class="ellipsis" style="display:inline-block">Episode 287: Gods With Anuses (The Denial of Death Pt. 1)</span><img title="Explicit" class="explicit" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMjQiIGhlaWdodD0iMjQiIHhtbG5zPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnczLm9yZy8yMDAwL3N2ZyI+PGcgZmlsbD0ibm9uZSIgZmlsbC1ydWxlPSJldmVub2RkIj48cGF0aCBkPSJNMCAwaDI0djI0SDB6Ii8+PHJlY3Qgc3Ryb2tlLW9wYWNpdHk9Ii41IiBzdHJva2U9IiMwMDAiIHg9IjEuNSIgeT0iMS41IiB3aWR0aD0iMjEiIGhlaWdodD0iMjEiIHJ4PSI0Ii8+PHBhdGggZmlsbC1vcGFjaXR5PSIuNSIgZmlsbD0iIzAwMCIgZD0iTTE1LjE1MSAxMi42NDNoLTUuMDI1djMuNjkySDE2VjE4SDhWNmg3Ljk0MXYxLjY4MWgtNS44MTV2My4zMTRoNS4wMjV6Ii8+PC9nPjwvc3ZnPg=="/></p></a><p class="ep-item-con-des"><span class="item icon date">2024-06-25</span><span class="item icon time">01:31:05</span><span class="item"><img class="heart" src="data:image/png;base64,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"/>2</span></p><div class="ep-item-con-btns"><p class="btn-item like"></p><span class="btn-item add-2epl"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn"></div></div></div></span><span class="btn-item add-2epl more-point"><div class="playlists-modal"><div class="playlists-modal-target"><div class="add-2epl-btn epl-more-action"></div></div></div></span></div></div><div class="ep-item-ctrls"><a class="ctrlItem play" href="/episode/Episode-287%3A-Gods-With-Anuses-(The-Denial-of-Death-Pt.-1)-id5444148-id713600122"></a></div></div><div class="audiobox"></div><div class="ep-item-desmodal"><div class="ep-item-desmodal-con">David faces his greatest fear as he and Tamler dive into Ernest Becker’s 1973 Pulitzer Prize winner The Denial of Death. Blending existentialist ideas within a psychoanalytic framework, Becker argues that the ultimate source of human motivation is not the repression of sexual drives (as Freud thought) but our terror of death and the yearning for an immortality we can never possess. This episode focuses on Part One of Becker’s book, and we’ll conclude the discussion in the next episode. Plus are gun owners really dissatisfied with their penis size? We look at the numbers. Hill, T. D., Zeng, L., Burdette, A. M., Dowd-Arrow, B., Bartkowski, J. P., &amp; Ellison, C. G. (2024). Size matters? Penis dissatisfaction and gun ownership in America. American journal of men&#x27;s health, 18(3), 15579883241255830. 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An ordinary man, Oh Dae-su, is imprisoned for 15 years in an old, windowless hotel room. After being abruptly released Oh Dae-su embarks on a mission to discover why he was imprisoned and to get revenge on the man who did it. But does Oh Dae-su really want to know the answers? And is he asking the right questions? (SPOILER HEAVY EPISODE! See this movie before you listen! Available on Netflix in the US.) Plus, how familiar are you with words the words azimuth and espadrille? Turns out that the answer may depend on your gender.  Brysbaert, M., Mandera, P., McCormick, S. F., &amp; Keuleers, E. (2019). Word prevalence norms for 62,000 English lemmas. Behavior research methods, 51, 467-479. 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class="commentListCon"><div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="b9635035e1eb4907b9aa0b8ba0c87071" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Abhishek Joshi</div></h3><p data-id="67696c9eafbd7079a61e0741" class="commentItemDes">Doesn't talmer voice sounds the exactly the same as Clancy from Midnight gospel.</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Dec 23rd</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="3f7521bf3f6f4cfea746ee7045a60e80" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Jave Alan Geddes</div></h3><p data-id="63301a27ee032cbc479d7279" class="commentItemDes">I don't know what I just listened to but it was like 2 minutes of bullshit</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Sep 25th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="1b0a80e88d984ef4b41bc98385f26f10" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Duane A Magley</div></h3><p data-id="6272d2fbc5e55659ce9a6e80" class="commentItemDes">reminds me of the movie "paycheck"</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">May 4th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="1b0a80e88d984ef4b41bc98385f26f10" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Duane A Magley</div></h3><p data-id="6227a1db3db0ebadf3997d6e" class="commentItemDes">couple takes on that better help ad, huh?</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Mar 8th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="d0a4aa2e34094235bd67eab74e4a502e" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Sandcastle •</div></h3><p data-id="62233b0dd4c0fd0593184008" class="commentItemDes">It's hilarious that you guys like rogan, yet Eric Clapton is bad. You might know better now, but rogan has always held racist beliefs, conspiracy theories and had never pushed back on anti vaxxers but has given legit scientists a hard time.</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Mar 5th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="1b0a80e88d984ef4b41bc98385f26f10" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Duane A Magley</div></h3><p data-id="62063d0a2e0476bc1d46bca1" class="commentItemDes">I liked this discussion.</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Feb 11th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="1b0a80e88d984ef4b41bc98385f26f10" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Duane A Magley</div></h3><p data-id="62054fdaef3978c74dcb76b6" class="commentItemDes">I used to have this intuition that everyone is "the most attractive person" to someone. yes, some people are more attractive generally, but nobody is ugly to everyone.</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Feb 10th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="98e1e912158b4aa2820d1d6239c8779c" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">justin skemp</div></h3><p data-id="616b343ca8ad2510a2f51b50" class="commentItemDes">.k</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Oct 16th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="1966d2ef9eea413d96140e10848f7f4e" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">ncooty</div></h3><p data-id="61415e89d34920e35963152a" class="commentItemDes">Tamler is an idiot.</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Sep 15th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="1966d2ef9eea413d96140e10848f7f4e" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">ncooty</div></h3><p data-id="61415c4badb3238652a16416" class="commentItemDes">None of the characters can see the absurdity--even one as plain as the nose on one's face--other than through the lenses of their own self-involvement. The author even emphasized it at the end (i.e., that the most absurd element related to publication), yet the hosts couldn't see it. I strained to view the hosts' obtuseness as intentionally ironic, but I couldn't quite convince myself.</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Sep 15th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="1966d2ef9eea413d96140e10848f7f4e" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">ncooty</div></h3><p data-id="61413e5fc0423484c4e9d2bf" class="commentItemDes">Drinking game: "you know"</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Sep 15th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="f7597bd1739844d5a3742be5b93afa43" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Rosie P</div></h3><p data-id="612b9ed4f60d12b1d3e1c4fb" class="commentItemDes">Deadwood literally got me through the death of my partner. It's a masterpiece. I think I've watched it over 10 times now, lost count after 5 lol.. I know shit all about films/tv but this would probably be my mastermind topic :D I've not listened yet but i have extensive thoughts on this topic so bring it on! ❤️</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Aug 29th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="94f7949394ac46b99a63b3b3b9e5407f" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">GoTo2 Podcast Review</div></h3><p data-id="5fc4d54cec8d839a5e9d6043" class="commentItemDes"><a href="https://castbox.fm/post/detail/5fc4d40e098d4352f7ecc349" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://castbox.fm/post/detail/5fc4d40e098d4352f7ecc349</a> bit like this podcast from the UK.</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Nov 30th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> <!-- -->(1)</div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="75b83bd98f414057ac326599a244955b" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">William McClellan</div></h3><p data-id="5fbe918df92ea19abdcc6373" class="commentItemDes">[REDACTED]</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Nov 25th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="26c357f9f5c44ca2a4d8fb520eb042d6" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Alan</div></h3><p data-id="5f9fdbf678f2f278c061a315" class="commentItemDes">amazing</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Nov 2nd</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="a2428a8c2cf04ccabdfd0feebcef0685" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Jason Gregory</div></h3><p data-id="5f439955bbddbd32272a8a76" class="commentItemDes">Tamler rocks.</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Aug 24th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="aeb0750c6e8e4a6b8fbf2d8c39af8d5b" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Michael Pemulis</div></h3><p data-id="5f35299a6458266e308b7706" class="commentItemDes">excited for this one, as always</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Aug 13th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="1542bac27f8d4cd8a9ff77ca09e676af" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Worth Swearingen</div></h3><p data-id="5f3496edec8d83263c18157a" class="commentItemDes">Love these guys. This is almost unlistenable, though. Do not care about stoner movies.</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Aug 13th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="a28b6211c65448faa7f4d74b91b9dd30" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Louis VXI</div></h3><p data-id="5ef495108408d5c083823487" class="commentItemDes">Fucking hell. Tamler needs to quit politics</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Jun 25th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div><div class="commentItem opacityinAnimate"><div class="commentItemBox clearfix"><div class="left commentItemCover"><div style="height:24px" class="lazyload-placeholder"></div></div><h3 data-user="c4bd0a1a0e47470484c5c9ef0bd9aa2d" class="commentItemTitle"><div class="username ellipsis">Maitri</div></h3><p data-id="5ef2978d8408d51bfab1a19c" class="commentItemDes">"Why are they so upset about the idea of abolishing the police?" you've got to be kidding guys... Maybe because they're aware that the communities who need the police most will suffer immensely if police determine to simply let these communities live as they please. I'm all for critiquing their ideas but please actually offer a critique rather than burning a straw man</p><div class="commentItemCtrl clearfix"><div class="left commentItemDate">Jun 24th</div><div><div class="commentItemReply right">Reply<!-- --> </div></div></div></div><div class="replyInput"></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="inner-links"><div class="title">Top Podcasts</div><div class="links"><a href="https://castbox.fm/blog/the-best-new-comedy-podcast-right-now-june-2024/" target="_blank">The Best New Comedy Podcast Right Now – June 2024</a><a href="https://castbox.fm/blog/the-best-news-podcast-right-now-june-2024/" target="_blank">The Best News Podcast Right Now – June 2024</a><a href="https://castbox.fm/blog/the-best-new-business-podcast-right-now-june-2024/" target="_blank">The Best New Business Podcast Right Now – June 2024</a><a href="https://castbox.fm/blog/the-best-new-sports-podcast-right-now-june-2024/" target="_blank">The Best New Sports Podcast Right Now – 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