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workplace.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThe advice to hide her personality never sat comfortably, and, some decades later, she is determined it has no place among the team of 140 people she now leads at VFMC.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIt has been a long and sometimes winding road from Galvin’s days as a junior lawyer to her current role, overseeing an asset manager which looks after billions of dollars on behalf of 32 Victorian public authorities and related organisations, including local government.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cx-placeholder id=\"266f6ec1e0ae8dc93f8371b54a979f03c82aba6c\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fx-placeholder\u003E\u003Cp\u003EFrom Allens, Galvin has survived for years in the male-dominated financial services world, first as a junior lawyer at ANZ Bank, before moving to wealth firm JBWere, where she later became the head of advice.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EShe held senior roles at Goldman Sachs, followed by National Australia Bank. \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThen along came COVID-19 and a career crisis. A decision to make a change was made even harder by Galvin’s lack of job hunting experience.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E “This was 2021, and I had been 23 years where I had never applied for a new job,” she says.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EBut staying put didn’t seem an option either.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“I thought, ‘I’m going to be a bit more proactive about my career’. I started thinking, what did I care about in the last 10 years of my career,” she says from VFMC’s office in 101 Collins Street, Melbourne.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“How can I use my 25 years of experience and do meaningful work? I realised I cared about people knowing about money and having enough money.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EOne of Galvin’s children goaded her with the nudge she needed.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“I have two teenage kids. My quite bolshie [19-year-old] daughter was like ‘you are such a corporate gronk, mum, working for a bank. How are you going to save the planet?’”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThe teenage insult, suggesting Galvin was mindlessly working in the interests of multinational conglomerates, subtly got under her skin. It was the push she needed to apply for a CEO role where she could set her own culture – and hopefully ensure people were properly invested.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EGalvin missed out on her first CEO application, although declines to say where. When the VFMC chief executive job came up, it felt like it aligned with her purpose – helping to support the financial underpinnings of her home state and giving her an opportunity to drive a more diverse team than the ones she had experienced.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“What more meaningful work is there than investing in the state you love and have always lived? And deploying capital in a meaningful way does, in a way, go to changing the world, and we’re really good at that,” she says.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“You use your brain every day. You deal with smart people, and we are really focused on being a curious, smart, kind and inclusive organisation.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EAfter being appointed in October 2021, she set out to achieve greater gender balance and diversity at the fund and is speaking to \u003Cem\u003EBOSS\u003C\u002Fem\u003E now that she has essentially achieved her goal.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003ENot that it was easy to drive more diversity \u003Cx-placeholder id=\"76c850246de55c728396d97d7085dd9327acb5c5\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fx-placeholder\u003E that she says “gave finance a bad name” and meant “a lot of women did not want to work in it”.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“In my generation, there are just not that many women who work in finance, so there is a [limited number] to choose from, and you do end up with a problem around choice,” she says.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EVFMC’s board, led by the chairwoman Lisa Gay, is 55 per cent female. Across the organisation, 48 per cent of staff are female, while the in-house investment team is 40 per cent female.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIt is estimated that globally, women control around 28 per cent of investment decisions.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cx-placeholder id=\"1a404d47eeb94fc36d54c59acc265cf4c6231c83\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fx-placeholder\u003E\u003Cp\u003EAs the rest of the industry battles to catch up, she says one of the big challenges is holding on to her female talent.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“There would be very few organisations [financial services companies] in Australia that have this level of gender balance, so when other people are looking to improve their gender balance, they look to [poach them from] us,” Galvin says.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EGalvin sees it as part of her responsibility to develop a pipeline of female investors and fund managers who might not have been drawn to the sector.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“Maybe we skew a bit to the younger demographic to build more female investment talent, and we will also go after engineers, science and maths graduates, not just commerce students,” she says. \u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“You don’t have to be a finance person to become a great investor. I don’t think enough women think about this part of finance as a really interesting place to work.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThe VFMC is Victoria’s equivalent of the federal Future Fund and state-based funds such as NSW’s TCorp, Queensland Investment Corporation and Funds SA.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIt is among the 10 largest investors in Australia and among the top 150 in the world, but typically plays behind the scenes more than some other funds. Unlike QIC, for example, it does not accept third-party mandates. The fund was established by the Victorian government under legislation with four foundation clients: WorkSafe, TAC, ESSSuper and the Victorian Managed Insurance Authority.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EHowever, any Victorian public sector entity or organisations created under state acts, including councils, can invest with the fund. The State Library of Victoria, Monash Health and the National Gallery of Victoria are among the other clients.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cx-placeholder id=\"b185ee10783f71ddd5d8f979c3f5a6e89f6f5901\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fx-placeholder\u003E\u003Cp\u003EThe latest annual report shows the fund has about 15 per cent invested in Australian equities, almost 30 per cent in international equities, 9 per cent in infrastructure and 10 per cent in property.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EIt invests in property and infrastructure such as airports, roads and rail through external funds such as Copenhagen Infrastructure Partners and \u003Cx-placeholder id=\"5155dd9215c397f0f53918ceff8dc0f082827e1d\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fx-placeholder\u003E.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“We’ve probably got most of the long-term investments in the state,” Galvin says.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003ELast financial year, the fund recorded a gain of 9.4 per cent, compared to the benchmark rise of 9.3 per cent, and returned a $13.2 million pre-tax surplus to the Labor government. Its 10-year return is 7.7 per cent, against a benchmark gain of 7.2 per cent.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EAsked about Victoria’s spiralling government debt levels, Galvin is all diplomacy.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“I’m only in charge of one side of the balance sheet, right?” she says.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“Of course, I have to be conscious of that because our returns are very much helping to keep the state healthy and keep the vital work of our agencies going, so we’re really proud that we’ve delivered the best returns we can.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EShe adds that as a long-term investor, VFMC tries to look through the current geopolitical uncertainty, the re-election of Donald Trump, high inflation and economic uncertainty.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“Our big thesis is that the world is faster and so you need to be really resilient as an organisation to be able to invest thoughtfully, not necessarily quickly, but in a resilient way,” she says.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cx-placeholder id=\"3fbe942f8dfb2f5d9f6371ec60153f6739e6cf04\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fx-placeholder\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“My view is that the next 10 years won’t be like the last 10 years. There will be really big challenges and thoughtful, long-term investors making sensible decisions [will be key]. Economically there are lots of challenges facing the world.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EGalvin also firmly believes “diverse teams make better decisions”.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“We’ve really leaned in to gender diversity because a diverse view point and range of thinking leads to better investment decisions,” she says.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“Half of our team also weren’t born in Australia and a third speak another language.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EGalvin says the war for investment talent, particularly in Melbourne, which is home to many of the country’s largest superannuation funds, is intense but she believes VFMC’s size and purpose give it an edge, even if she can’t always compete on pay.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“There are probably only a few thousand investment professionals across Melbourne, but you have got some of the fastest-growing global investors here,” she says.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“We have a relatively flat structure [there is a team of 50 investors who control 30 per cent of the fund’s investment in house], we’re not a huge organisation, and we are investing for the state.”\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EGay, also a former lawyer, took over as the VFMC chairwoman from Slater & Gordon chair James McKenzie last November. She knows Galvin well given that she worked with her while she was general counsel at Goldman Sachs Australia and at JBWere for more than 20 years.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003E“Kate’s greatest strengths include her ability to bring diverse groups of people together to achieve a common goal, her intellect and communication skills, and her infectious joy for life,” Gay says.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cx-placeholder id=\"54993e229283232afaaed3b0e1d493c08705c5c7\"\u003E\u003C\u002Fx-placeholder\u003E\u003Cp\u003EGay is among five women on the nine-person board which includes former VFMC CEO and NAB executive Lisa Gray; former investment director at Frontier Advisors Fiona Trafford-Walker; the chairwoman of Spirit Super, Maria Wilton; and former ANZ banker and World Vision Australia CEO Clare Rogers.\u003C\u002Fp\u003E\u003Cp\u003EGalvin also breaks the CEO mould, claiming that she is more into live music, reading and cooking than fasting or getting up early to run marathons. 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