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class="vector-toc-link" href="#語言分類"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">2</span> <span>語言分類</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2条留言</span> <ul id="toc-語言分類-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-YouTube視頻輔導" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#YouTube視頻輔導"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">3</span> <span>YouTube視頻輔導</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4条留言</span> <ul id="toc-YouTube視頻輔導-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-白話字" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#白話字"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">4</span> <span>白話字</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2条留言</span> <ul id="toc-白話字-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-簡體標題的重定向" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#簡體標題的重定向"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">5</span> <span>簡體標題的重定向</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">13条留言</span> <ul id="toc-簡體標題的重定向-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Cpx-pron" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1 vector-toc-list-item-expanded"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Cpx-pron"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">6</span> <span>Cpx-pron</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2条留言</span> <ul id="toc-Cpx-pron-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> <div class="mw-content-container"> <main id="content" class="mw-body"> <header class="mw-body-header vector-page-titlebar"> <nav aria-label="目录" class="vector-toc-landmark"> <div id="vector-page-titlebar-toc" class="vector-dropdown vector-page-titlebar-toc vector-button-flush-left" > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-page-titlebar-toc-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-page-titlebar-toc" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="开关目录" > <label id="vector-page-titlebar-toc-label" for="vector-page-titlebar-toc-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only " aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-listBullet mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-listBullet"></span> <span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">开关目录</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="vector-page-titlebar-toc-unpinned-container" class="vector-unpinned-container"> </div> </div> </div> </nav> <h1 id="firstHeading" class="firstHeading mw-first-heading"><span class="mw-page-title-namespace">User talk</span><span class="mw-page-title-separator">:</span><span class="mw-page-title-main">TongcyDai</span></h1> <div id="p-lang-btn" class="vector-dropdown mw-portlet mw-portlet-lang mw-portlet-lang-icon-only" > <input type="checkbox" id="p-lang-btn-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-p-lang-btn" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox mw-interlanguage-selector-empty" aria-label="这篇条目只存在于此语言中。添加其他语言的条目" > <label id="p-lang-btn-label" for="p-lang-btn-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only mw-portlet-lang-heading-empty" aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-language mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-language"></span> <span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">添加语言</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div class="mw-portlet-empty-language-selector-body"> 页面内容不支持其他语言。 </div> </div> </div> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&action=edit&section=new" class="cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--action-progressive" id="ca-addsection" data-event-name="addsection-header"><span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-speechBubbleAdd-progressive mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-speechBubbleAdd-progressive"></span> <span>添加话题</span> </a> </header> <div class="vector-page-toolbar"> <div class="vector-page-toolbar-container"> <div id="left-navigation"> <nav aria-label="命名空间"> <div id="p-associated-pages" class="vector-menu vector-menu-tabs mw-portlet mw-portlet-associated-pages" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="ca-nstab-user" class="vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/User:TongcyDai" title="查看用户页面[c]" accesskey="c"><span>用户页</span></a></li><li id="ca-talk" class="selected vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai" rel="discussion" title="有关内容页面的讨论[t]" accesskey="t"><span>讨论</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="vector-variants-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown " > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-variants-dropdown-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-variants-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="更改语言变体" > <label id="vector-variants-dropdown-label" for="vector-variants-dropdown-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet" aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">不转换</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="p-variants" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-variants" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="ca-varlang-0" class="selected ca-variants-zh mw-list-item"><a href="/zh/User_talk:TongcyDai" lang="zh" hreflang="zh"><span>不转换</span></a></li><li id="ca-varlang-1" class="ca-variants-zh-Hans mw-list-item"><a href="/zh-hans/User_talk:TongcyDai" lang="zh-Hans" hreflang="zh-Hans"><span>简体</span></a></li><li id="ca-varlang-2" class="ca-variants-zh-Hant mw-list-item"><a href="/zh-hant/User_talk:TongcyDai" lang="zh-Hant" hreflang="zh-Hant"><span>繁體</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> <div id="right-navigation" class="vector-collapsible"> <nav aria-label="查看"> <div id="p-views" class="vector-menu vector-menu-tabs mw-portlet mw-portlet-views" > <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="ca-view" class="selected vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai"><span>阅读</span></a></li><li id="ca-edit" class="istalk vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&action=edit" title="编辑该页面[e]" accesskey="e"><span>编辑</span></a></li><li id="ca-history" class="vector-tab-noicon mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&action=history" title="该页面过去的修订[h]" accesskey="h"><span>查看历史</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> </nav> <nav class="vector-page-tools-landmark" aria-label="页面工具"> <div id="vector-page-tools-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown vector-page-tools-dropdown" > <input type="checkbox" id="vector-page-tools-dropdown-checkbox" role="button" aria-haspopup="true" data-event-name="ui.dropdown-vector-page-tools-dropdown" class="vector-dropdown-checkbox " aria-label="工具箱" > <label id="vector-page-tools-dropdown-label" for="vector-page-tools-dropdown-checkbox" class="vector-dropdown-label cdx-button cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--weight-quiet" aria-hidden="true" ><span class="vector-dropdown-label-text">工具箱</span> </label> <div class="vector-dropdown-content"> <div id="vector-page-tools-unpinned-container" class="vector-unpinned-container"> <div id="vector-page-tools" class="vector-page-tools vector-pinnable-element"> <div class="vector-pinnable-header vector-page-tools-pinnable-header vector-pinnable-header-unpinned" data-feature-name="page-tools-pinned" data-pinnable-element-id="vector-page-tools" data-pinned-container-id="vector-page-tools-pinned-container" data-unpinned-container-id="vector-page-tools-unpinned-container" > <div class="vector-pinnable-header-label">工具</div> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-pin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-page-tools.pin">移至侧栏</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-page-tools.unpin">隐藏</button> </div> <div id="p-cactions" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-cactions emptyPortlet vector-has-collapsible-items" title="更多选项" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> 操作 </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="ca-more-view" class="selected vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai"><span>阅读</span></a></li><li id="ca-more-edit" class="istalk vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&action=edit" title="编辑该页面[e]" accesskey="e"><span>编辑</span></a></li><li id="ca-more-addsection" class="vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&action=edit&section=new"><span>添加话题</span></a></li><li id="ca-more-history" class="vector-more-collapsible-item mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&action=history"><span>查看历史</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-tb" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-tb" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> 常规 </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="t-whatlinkshere" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Special:%E9%93%BE%E5%85%A5%E9%A1%B5%E9%9D%A2/User_talk:TongcyDai" title="所有链接至本页面的wiki页面列表[j]" accesskey="j"><span>链入页面</span></a></li><li id="t-recentchangeslinked" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Special:%E9%93%BE%E5%87%BA%E6%9B%B4%E6%94%B9/User_talk:TongcyDai" rel="nofollow" title="链自本页的页面的最近更改[k]" accesskey="k"><span>相关更改</span></a></li><li id="t-contributions" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E8%B4%A1%E7%8C%AE/TongcyDai" title="由此用户做出的贡献列表"><span>用户贡献</span></a></li><li id="t-log" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Special:%E6%97%A5%E5%BF%97/TongcyDai"><span>日志</span></a></li><li id="t-userrights" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E6%9D%83%E9%99%90/TongcyDai"><span>查看用户组</span></a></li><li id="t-upload" class="mw-list-item"><a href="//commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard?uselang=zh" title="上传文件[u]" accesskey="u"><span>上传文件</span></a></li><li id="t-specialpages" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/wiki/Special:%E7%89%B9%E6%AE%8A%E9%A1%B5%E9%9D%A2" title="所有特殊页面的列表[q]" accesskey="q"><span>特殊页面</span></a></li><li id="t-permalink" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&oldid=8827488" title="此页面该修订版本的固定链接"><span>永久链接</span></a></li><li id="t-info" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&action=info" title="关于此页面的更多信息"><span>页面信息</span></a></li><li id="t-urlshortener" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Special:URL%E7%BC%A9%E7%9F%AD%E7%A8%8B%E5%BA%8F&url=https%3A%2F%2Fzh.wiktionary.org%2Fwiki%2FUser_talk%3ATongcyDai"><span>获取短链接</span></a></li><li id="t-urlshortener-qrcode" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Special:QrCode&url=https%3A%2F%2Fzh.wiktionary.org%2Fwiki%2FUser_talk%3ATongcyDai"><span>下载二维码</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-electronpdfservice-sidebar-portlet-heading" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-electronpdfservice-sidebar-portlet-heading" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> 打印/导出 </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> <li id="electron-print_pdf" class="mw-list-item"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Special:DownloadAsPdf&page=User_talk%3ATongcyDai&action=show-download-screen"><span>下载为PDF</span></a></li><li id="t-print" class="mw-list-item"><a href="javascript:print();" rel="alternate" title="本页面的可打印版本[p]" accesskey="p"><span>打印页面</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div id="p-wikibase-otherprojects" class="vector-menu mw-portlet mw-portlet-wikibase-otherprojects emptyPortlet" > <div class="vector-menu-heading"> 在其他项目中 </div> <div class="vector-menu-content"> <ul class="vector-menu-content-list"> </ul> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> </div> <div class="vector-column-end"> <div class="vector-sticky-pinned-container"> <nav class="vector-page-tools-landmark" aria-label="页面工具"> <div id="vector-page-tools-pinned-container" class="vector-pinned-container"> </div> </nav> <nav class="vector-appearance-landmark" aria-label="外观"> <div id="vector-appearance-pinned-container" class="vector-pinned-container"> <div id="vector-appearance" class="vector-appearance vector-pinnable-element"> <div class="vector-pinnable-header vector-appearance-pinnable-header vector-pinnable-header-pinned" data-feature-name="appearance-pinned" data-pinnable-element-id="vector-appearance" data-pinned-container-id="vector-appearance-pinned-container" data-unpinned-container-id="vector-appearance-unpinned-container" > <div class="vector-pinnable-header-label">外观</div> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-pin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.pin">移至侧栏</button> <button class="vector-pinnable-header-toggle-button vector-pinnable-header-unpin-button" data-event-name="pinnable-header.vector-appearance.unpin">隐藏</button> </div> </div> </div> </nav> </div> </div> <div id="bodyContent" class="vector-body" aria-labelledby="firstHeading" data-mw-ve-target-container> <div class="vector-body-before-content"> <div class="mw-indicators"> </div> <div id="siteSub" class="noprint">維基詞典，自由的多語言詞典</div> </div> <div id="contentSub"><div id="mw-content-subtitle"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-pageframe-latestcomment">Apisite在话题“<a href="#Cpx-pron">Cpx-pron</a>”中的最新留言：<a href="#c-Apisite-20241101082000-Cpx-pron">27天前</a></div></div></div> <div id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="zh" dir="ltr"><div class="plainlinksneverexpand" style="border: 1px #00308F solid; text-align:center; padding: 4px; background: white; color: #00308F;"> <table align="center"> <tbody><tr> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai/Archive" title="User talk:TongcyDai/Archive"><b>討論存檔</b></a> </td></tr></tbody></table> </div> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="管理員您好" data-mw-thread-id="h-管理員您好-20240627053100"><span id=".E7.AE.A1.E7.90.86.E5.93.A1.E6.82.A8.E5.A5.BD"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-管理員您好-20240627053100"></span>管理員您好<span data-mw-comment-end="h-管理員您好-20240627053100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&action=edit&section=1" title="编辑章节：管理員您好"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>最新留言：在<a href="#c-TongcyDai-20240701085600-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240701084700">4个月前</a>发布</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>8条留言</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2人参与讨论</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627053100-管理員您好"></span>我在我的用户页面建立了维基词典的改版首页，希望成为维基词典正式首页，请您告诉我您的意见，谢谢！ <a href="/wiki/User:Shiroi_Hitomi" title="User:Shiroi Hitomi">Shiroi Hitomi</a>（<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shiroi_Hitomi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Shiroi Hitomi（页面不存在）">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627053100-管理員您好" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年6月27日 (四) 05:31 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627053100-管理員您好"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627053100-管理員您好"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TongcyDai-20240627072400-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627053100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Shiroi_Hitomi" title="User:Shiroi Hitomi">Shiroi Hitomi</a>：</span>您好，請問您的「改版首頁」和當前的首頁相比有什麼重大的變化/改進嗎？<span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">—<b><a href="/wiki/User:TongcyDai" title="User:TongcyDai"><span style="color: #8F4586"><b>TongcyDai</b></span></a></b></span> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: #FF9224;"><span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">ฅ • ω • ฅ</span></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-TongcyDai-20240627072400-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627053100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年6月27日 (四) 07:24 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TongcyDai-20240627072400-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627053100"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TongcyDai-20240627072400-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627053100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627080600-TongcyDai-20240627072400"></span>并无重大变化，主要是优化界面，主要是强调读者观感 <a href="/wiki/User:Shiroi_Hitomi" title="User:Shiroi Hitomi">Shiroi Hitomi</a>（<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shiroi_Hitomi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Shiroi Hitomi（页面不存在）">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627080600-TongcyDai-20240627072400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年6月27日 (四) 08:06 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627080600-TongcyDai-20240627072400"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627080600-TongcyDai-20240627072400"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TongcyDai-20240627091400-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627080600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Shiroi_Hitomi" title="User:Shiroi Hitomi">Shiroi Hitomi</a>：</span>首頁確實是很久沒更新了，但它的主要問題似乎並不在這裡。我也不太清楚把原先首頁的色塊拿掉是否能增進讀者的閱覽感受（反而還顯得更陳舊了）。總之，如果沒有重大改進的話個人覺得沒必要改。<span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">—<b><a href="/wiki/User:TongcyDai" title="User:TongcyDai"><span style="color: #8F4586"><b>TongcyDai</b></span></a></b></span> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: #FF9224;"><span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">ฅ • ω • ฅ</span></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-TongcyDai-20240627091400-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627080600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年6月27日 (四) 09:14 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TongcyDai-20240627091400-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627080600"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TongcyDai-20240627091400-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627080600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627105300-TongcyDai-20240627091400"></span>主要是参照其他语言版本，添加了按语言的索引 <a href="/wiki/User:Shiroi_Hitomi" title="User:Shiroi Hitomi">Shiroi Hitomi</a>（<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shiroi_Hitomi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Shiroi Hitomi（页面不存在）">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627105300-TongcyDai-20240627091400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年6月27日 (四) 10:53 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627105300-TongcyDai-20240627091400"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627105300-TongcyDai-20240627091400"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TongcyDai-20240628070800-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627105300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Shiroi_Hitomi" title="User:Shiroi Hitomi">Shiroi Hitomi</a>：</span> 如果有更多改進的話會更好。個人覺得像<a href="https://zh-min-nan.wiktionary.org/wiki/w:Th%C3%A2u-ia%CC%8Dh" class="extiw" title="nan:w:Thâu-ia̍h">閩南語維基百科</a>這樣的設計看起來更清爽且有活力，不過當中的內容究竟要放什麼還需要再考量（當前首頁上的附錄實際上都已經過時了）。此外，更改首頁是大事，建議到<a href="/wiki/Wiktionary:%E5%95%A4%E9%85%92%E9%A6%86" title="Wiktionary:啤酒馆">啤酒館</a>和社群討論溝通更為合適。<span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">—<b><a href="/wiki/User:TongcyDai" title="User:TongcyDai"><span style="color: #8F4586"><b>TongcyDai</b></span></a></b></span> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: #FF9224;"><span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">ฅ • ω • ฅ</span></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-TongcyDai-20240628070800-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627105300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年6月28日 (五) 07:08 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TongcyDai-20240628070800-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627105300"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TongcyDai-20240628070800-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240627105300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240701084700-TongcyDai-20240628070800"></span>这个词典好像也没有社群 <a href="/wiki/User:Shiroi_Hitomi" title="User:Shiroi Hitomi">Shiroi Hitomi</a>（<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shiroi_Hitomi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Shiroi Hitomi（页面不存在）">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240701084700-TongcyDai-20240628070800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年7月1日 (一) 08:47 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240701084700-TongcyDai-20240628070800"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240701084700-TongcyDai-20240628070800"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TongcyDai-20240701085600-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240701084700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Shiroi_Hitomi" title="User:Shiroi Hitomi">Shiroi Hitomi</a>：</span> 也不能說沒有，只是規模比起中文維基百科、英語維基詞典等小得多。<span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">—<b><a href="/wiki/User:TongcyDai" title="User:TongcyDai"><span style="color: #8F4586"><b>TongcyDai</b></span></a></b></span> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: #FF9224;"><span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">ฅ • ω • ฅ</span></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-TongcyDai-20240701085600-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240701084700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年7月1日 (一) 08:56 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TongcyDai-20240701085600-Shiroi_Hitomi-20240701084700"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-語言分類-20240814152500"></span>語言分類<span data-mw-comment-end="h-語言分類-20240814152500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&action=edit&section=2" title="编辑章节：語言分類"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>最新留言：在<a href="#c-TongcyDai-20240814154700-Fglffer-20240814152500">3个月前</a>发布</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2条留言</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2人参与讨论</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fglffer-20240814152500-語言分類"></span>古典日語沒有語言代碼，其代碼 ojp 對應的是上古日語，希望能撥空修改。 <a href="/wiki/User:Fglffer" title="User:Fglffer">Fglffer</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fglffer" title="User talk:Fglffer">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Fglffer-20240814152500-語言分類" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月14日 (三) 15:25 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fglffer-20240814152500-語言分類"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fglffer-20240814152500-語言分類"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TongcyDai-20240814154700-Fglffer-20240814152500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Fglffer" title="User:Fglffer">Fglffer</a>：</span>已經完成移動，機器人也已經修正了語言標題，請幫忙檢查有沒有遺漏的。<span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">—<b><a href="/wiki/User:TongcyDai" title="User:TongcyDai"><span style="color: #8F4586"><b>TongcyDai</b></span></a></b></span> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: #FF9224;"><span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">ฅ • ω • ฅ</span></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-TongcyDai-20240814154700-Fglffer-20240814152500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年8月14日 (三) 15:47 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TongcyDai-20240814154700-Fglffer-20240814152500"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TongcyDai-20240814154700-Fglffer-20240814152500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="YouTube視頻輔導" data-mw-thread-id="h-YouTube視頻輔導-20240918073200"><span id="YouTube.E8.A6.96.E9.A0.BB.E8.BC.94.E5.B0.8E"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-YouTube視頻輔導-20240918073200"></span>YouTube視頻輔導<span data-mw-comment-end="h-YouTube視頻輔導-20240918073200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&action=edit&section=3" title="编辑章节：YouTube視頻輔導"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>最新留言：在<a href="#c-TongcyDai-20240918083600-Apisite-20240918075400">2个月前</a>发布</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4条留言</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2人参与讨论</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apisite-20240918073200-YouTube視頻輔導"></span>If you could, would you make at least one video of how you edit here at the Chinese Edition of Wiktionary? </p><p>What about the idea of a video-blog documenting your wiki-editing work? </p><p>Thanks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Apisite" title="User:Apisite">Apisite</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Apisite" title="User talk:Apisite">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Apisite-20240918073200-YouTube視頻輔導" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月18日 (三) 07:32 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apisite-20240918073200-YouTube視頻輔導"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apisite-20240918073200-YouTube視頻輔導"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apisite-20240918073300-YouTube視頻輔導"></span>I have been hesitant to update the entry <a href="/wiki/%E5%BD%B1%E5%83%8F" title="影像">影像</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Apisite" title="User:Apisite">Apisite</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Apisite" title="User talk:Apisite">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Apisite-20240918073300-YouTube視頻輔導" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月18日 (三) 07:33 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apisite-20240918073300-YouTube視頻輔導"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apisite-20240918073300-YouTube視頻輔導"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apisite-20240918075400-YouTube視頻輔導"></span>And the entry <a href="/wiki/%E5%A5%AA%E5%8F%96" title="奪取">奪取</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Apisite" title="User:Apisite">Apisite</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Apisite" title="User talk:Apisite">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Apisite-20240918075400-YouTube視頻輔導" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月18日 (三) 07:54 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apisite-20240918075400-YouTube視頻輔導"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apisite-20240918075400-YouTube視頻輔導"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TongcyDai-20240918083600-Apisite-20240918075400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Apisite" title="User:Apisite">Apisite</a>：</span>Hi. I don't have the time, and creating videos is far beyond the responsibilities of a Wiktionary editor. However, I can briefly explain in writing how we typically approach this task.</dd> <dd>For entries that already exist in the English Wiktionary, we use the English version as a "template". We translate section titles, most template parameters filled in English, and text passages in sections such as pronunciation, etymology, definitions, and usage notes into Chinese. We may add content not mentioned in the English version (for instance, the English entry for <a href="/wiki/%E5%BD%B1%E5%83%8F" title="影像">影像</a> doesn't mention that it's also one of the Chinese character forms for the Korean word <i class="Kore mention" lang="ko"><a href="/wiki/%EC%98%81%EC%83%81#朝鮮語" title="영상">영상</a></i> <span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">(</span><span lang="ko-Latn" class="mention-tr tr Latn">yeongsang</span><span class="mention-gloss-paren annotation-paren">)</span>). We might also trim content that seems overly verbose in Chinese. If you're very familiar with the target language, it's highly recommended to consult related resources to expand the entry.</dd> <dd>Most importantly, editing the Chinese Wiktionary implies a certain level of proficiency in Chinese. This is necessary to accurately describe explanations, etymologies, and other text passages in Chinese. As mentioned in the homepage description of Wiktionary, "This is a collaborative project aiming to create a free multilingual dictionary, using Chinese to define and describe words from all languages." As I've mentioned before, if your Chinese proficiency isn't sufficient for these tasks, you should carefully consider refraining from editing the Chinese Wiktionary.</dd> <dd>Lastly, as you can see, there are still many entries in the Chinese Wiktionary that need improvement. Besides enhancing existing entries and writing new ones, we need to maintain templates and modules to keep them in sync with the English Wiktionary while ensuring proper localization. Every editor is busy and responsible for ensuring their contributions adhere to formatting standards and community consensus. However, no one is obligated to meet unnecessary demands from others or constantly clean up messes caused by someone else's whims.</dd> <dd>I hope this explanation provides clarity on our editing process and the responsibilities of Wiktionary editors. <span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">—<b><a href="/wiki/User:TongcyDai" title="User:TongcyDai"><span style="color: #8F4586"><b>TongcyDai</b></span></a></b></span> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: #FF9224;"><span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">ฅ • ω • ฅ</span></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-TongcyDai-20240918083600-Apisite-20240918075400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年9月18日 (三) 08:36 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TongcyDai-20240918083600-Apisite-20240918075400"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TongcyDai-20240918083600-Apisite-20240918075400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="白話字" data-mw-thread-id="h-白話字-20241020142800"><span id=".E7.99.BD.E8.A9.B1.E5.AD.97"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-白話字-20241020142800"></span>白話字<span data-mw-comment-end="h-白話字-20241020142800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&action=edit&section=4" title="编辑章节：白話字"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>最新留言：在<a href="#c-TongcyDai-20241022082000-Kethyga-20241020142800">1个月前</a>发布</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2条留言</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2人参与讨论</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kethyga-20241020142800-白話字"></span>能否通過bot向<a href="/wiki/Category:%E5%AE%98%E8%A9%B1%E5%90%8D%E8%A9%9E" title="Category:官話名詞">Category:官話名詞</a>中的<a href="/wiki/%E7%99%BD%E8%A9%B1%E5%AD%97" title="白話字">白話字</a>的模板<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Zh-see" title="Template:Zh-see">zh-see</a>}}</code>添加<code>|poj</code>參數。如果只有第一頁的話，手動修改好像也可以。<a href="/wiki/p%C3%AC-hng" title="pì-hng">pì-hng</a>似乎無法去掉官話分類，不清楚爲什麼這種寫法，重定向頁面如果換成正體字應該是可以去掉分類。 <a href="/wiki/User:Kethyga" title="User:Kethyga">Kethyga</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kethyga" title="User talk:Kethyga">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Kethyga-20241020142800-白話字" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月20日 (日) 14:28 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kethyga-20241020142800-白話字"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kethyga-20241020142800-白話字"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TongcyDai-20241022082000-Kethyga-20241020142800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Kethyga" title="User:Kethyga">Kethyga</a>：</span>已由<a href="/wiki/User:Hzy980512" title="User:Hzy980512">User:Hzy980512</a>修復。此外，日後若有機器人相關請求，到我的用戶頁詢問即可。<span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">—<b><a href="/wiki/User:TongcyDai" title="User:TongcyDai"><span style="color: #8F4586"><b>TongcyDai</b></span></a></b></span> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: #FF9224;"><span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">ฅ • ω • ฅ</span></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-TongcyDai-20241022082000-Kethyga-20241020142800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月22日 (二) 08:20 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TongcyDai-20241022082000-Kethyga-20241020142800"><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TongcyDai-20241022082000-Kethyga-20241020142800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="簡體標題的重定向" data-mw-thread-id="h-簡體標題的重定向-20241024034500"><span id=".E7.B0.A1.E9.AB.94.E6.A8.99.E9.A1.8C.E7.9A.84.E9.87.8D.E5.AE.9A.E5.90.91"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-簡體標題的重定向-20241024034500"></span>簡體標題的重定向<span data-mw-comment-end="h-簡體標題的重定向-20241024034500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&action=edit&section=5" title="编辑章节：簡體標題的重定向"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>最新留言：在<a href="#c-Kethyga-20241031084700-Hzy980512-20241031035700">28天前</a>发布</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>13条留言</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3人参与讨论</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kethyga-20241024034500-簡體標題的重定向"></span>比如<a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:%E5%B8%B6%E3%80%8C%E8%B0%B7%E3%80%8D%E7%9A%84%E6%BC%A2%E8%AA%9E%E8%A9%9E" class="extiw" title="wikt:Category:帶「谷」的漢語詞">wikt:Category:帶「谷」的漢語詞</a>，比如含有穀的簡體字「谷」，重定向（重新導向）詞條的存廢標準是什麼？如果保留簡體標題，感覺便於對簡體的詞進行統計。 <a href="/wiki/User:Kethyga" title="User:Kethyga">Kethyga</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kethyga" title="User talk:Kethyga">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Kethyga-20241024034500-簡體標題的重定向" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月24日 (四) 03:45 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kethyga-20241024034500-簡體標題的重定向"><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kethyga-20241024034500-簡體標題的重定向"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TongcyDai-20241024084100-Kethyga-20241024034500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Kethyga" title="User:Kethyga">Kethyga</a>：</span>一般來說，如果MediaWiki簡繁轉換不會將簡體形式自動重新導向至繁體形式，或者簡體形式和其他語言共用，會使用軟重新導向（<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Zh-see" title="Template:Zh-see">zh-see</a>}}</code>）。這些情況以外的「純簡體」有編者會使用硬重新導向，但我覺得理論上它們沒有留著的必要，讓MW軟體自動處理即可。硬重新導向的標題不會被算作條目來統計，而軟重新導向則應該在必要時才使用，避免使用者點擊簡體連結的時候需要多進行一次跳轉才能抵達目標頁面。<span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">—<b><a href="/wiki/User:TongcyDai" title="User:TongcyDai"><span style="color: #8F4586"><b>TongcyDai</b></span></a></b></span> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: #FF9224;"><span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">ฅ • ω • ฅ</span></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-TongcyDai-20241024084100-Kethyga-20241024034500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月24日 (四) 08:41 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TongcyDai-20241024084100-Kethyga-20241024034500"><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TongcyDai-20241024084100-Kethyga-20241024034500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kethyga-20241030010000-TongcyDai-20241024084100"></span>或許可以更改<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Zh-see" title="Template:Zh-see">zh-see</a>}}</code>，使其能夠像維基百科的繁簡重定向模板一樣，既可以標註繁簡重定向，又可以用來對簡體字進行統計（<a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/en:Category:Chinese_terms_spelled_with_%E7%B2%AE" class="extiw" title="wikt:en:Category:Chinese terms spelled with 粮">wikt:en:Category:Chinese terms spelled with 粮</a>可以匯總簡體的詞元，硬重定向的話，無法進行分類）。現在的統計針對繁體字形，對於使用簡體字的讀者來說，可能要先懂得繁體。另外使用了<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Zh-forms" title="Template:Zh-forms">zh-forms</a>}}</code>之後，標題無法進行繁簡轉換，之前的模板[<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E5%86%99%E6%B3%95" title="Template:汉语写法">汉语写法</a>}}</code>標題可以繁簡轉換。 <a href="/wiki/User:Kethyga" title="User:Kethyga">Kethyga</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kethyga" title="User talk:Kethyga">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Kethyga-20241030010000-TongcyDai-20241024084100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月30日 (三) 01:00 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kethyga-20241030010000-TongcyDai-20241024084100"><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kethyga-20241030010000-TongcyDai-20241024084100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kethyga-20241030030000-Kethyga-20241030010000"></span>另外，<a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/en:Category:Chinese_simplified_forms" class="extiw" title="wikt:en:Category:Chinese simplified forms">wikt:en:Category:Chinese simplified forms</a>中明確標出了簡體形式。本地的<a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:%E5%AE%98%E8%A9%B1%E8%A9%9E%E5%85%83" class="extiw" title="wikt:Category:官話詞元">wikt:Category:官話詞元</a>（<a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/en:Category:Mandarin_lemmas" class="extiw" title="wikt:en:Category:Mandarin lemmas">wikt:en:Category:Mandarin lemmas</a>）的話，只有繁體無簡體形式。而且分類中<a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:%E4%BE%9D%E5%AD%97%E5%85%83%E5%88%86%E9%A1%9E%E7%9A%84%E6%BC%A2%E8%AA%9E%E8%A9%9E" class="extiw" title="wikt:Category:依字元分類的漢語詞">wikt:Category:依字元分類的漢語詞</a>，如果簡體詞元不加入相關模板的話，這些分類就無用了。 <a href="/wiki/User:Kethyga" title="User:Kethyga">Kethyga</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kethyga" title="User talk:Kethyga">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Kethyga-20241030030000-Kethyga-20241030010000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月30日 (三) 03:00 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kethyga-20241030030000-Kethyga-20241030010000"><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kethyga-20241030030000-Kethyga-20241030010000"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TongcyDai-20241030111200-Kethyga-20241030010000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Kethyga" title="User:Kethyga">Kethyga</a>：</span>本站的模板和條目格式基本都是跟著英語維基詞典走的，僅在必要處進行本地化。站內人力已經很少了，貿然添加功能或者引入額外的模板/模組，對於日後的更新、維護會是很大的負擔。先前<a href="/wiki/Category:%E5%B8%B6%E3%80%8C%E7%B3%A7%E3%80%8D%E7%9A%84%E6%BC%A2%E8%AA%9E%E8%A9%9E" title="Category:帶「糧」的漢語詞">Category:帶「<b>粮</b>」的漢語詞</a>算是誤建，由於簡體字形式「粮」和其他語言並不重複，除了「粮」本身以外不會有帶此形式的條目出現（MW軟體會把「粮」放進<a href="/wiki/Category:%E5%B8%B6%E3%80%8C%E7%B3%A7%E3%80%8D%E7%9A%84%E6%BC%A2%E8%AA%9E%E8%A9%9E" title="Category:帶「糧」的漢語詞">Category:帶「<b>糧</b>」的漢語詞</a>中），簡體使用者輸入<code>带“粮”的汉语词</code>一樣能找到該分類。</dd> <dd>我認為<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Zh-forms" title="Template:Zh-forms">zh-forms</a>}}</code>對標題造成的影響不是大問題。一些標題顯示錯誤在所難免（比如當漢語、日語同碼異形時，不管標題如何顯示，對於其中一種語言都是錯誤的），只要標題行顯示正確就好。部分日語詞彙標題同理。</dd> <dd>由於本站不像英語維基詞典系統性地將繁體、簡體形式獨立開來並各建頁面，<a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Chinese_simplified_forms" class="extiw" title="en:Category:Chinese simplified forms">en:Category:Chinese simplified forms</a>對本站的意義似乎不是很大。</dd> <dd>附帶一提，這裡已經是維基詞典了，站內連結不用再加上 <code>wikt:</code> 前綴，會連到英維去（分類連結加上 <code>:</code> 可避免被視作加入分類）。 <span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">—<b><a href="/wiki/User:TongcyDai" title="User:TongcyDai"><span style="color: #8F4586"><b>TongcyDai</b></span></a></b></span> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: #FF9224;"><span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">ฅ • ω • ฅ</span></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-TongcyDai-20241030111200-Kethyga-20241030010000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月30日 (三) 11:12 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TongcyDai-20241030111200-Kethyga-20241030010000"><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TongcyDai-20241030111200-Kethyga-20241030010000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kethyga-20241030113700-TongcyDai-20241030111200"></span>不應該把把简体的粮的组词放入正体/繁体的「糧」中，就像裡和裏，類似英語的center和centre。英維也只是軟重定向。之前在<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://freemdict.com/">freemdict</a>論壇上已經有人詬病本站對簡體用戶不友好了，比方說用戶从分类查找使用帶「粮」的汉语词，需要用户先学会所有的繁体字才能确认对应的词（这对學習者不好），除非分類中的詞條也能像模板<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Zh-l" title="Template:Zh-l">zh-l</a>}}</code>一樣能夠同時顯示繁體和簡體。 <a href="/wiki/User:Kethyga" title="User:Kethyga">Kethyga</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kethyga" title="User talk:Kethyga">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Kethyga-20241030113700-TongcyDai-20241030111200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月30日 (三) 11:37 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kethyga-20241030113700-TongcyDai-20241030111200"><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kethyga-20241030113700-TongcyDai-20241030111200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hzy980512-20241030114000-Kethyga-20241030113700"></span>但是如果创建简体词条，简中链接需要点两次才能进入页面（进入简体页面然后再点一次才能进入词条页面），对简中使用者反而更不友好。所以现在主要用手动重定向或MediaWiki自动跳转。-- <a href="/wiki/User:Hzy980512" title="User:Hzy980512">Hzy980512</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hzy980512" title="User talk:Hzy980512">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Hzy980512-20241030114000-Kethyga-20241030113700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月30日 (三) 11:40 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hzy980512-20241030114000-Kethyga-20241030113700"><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hzy980512-20241030114000-Kethyga-20241030113700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kethyga-20241030114700-Hzy980512-20241030114000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Hzy980512" title="User:Hzy980512">Hzy980512</a> 可以類似維基百科中的繁簡重定向模板，而不是現在的<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Zh-see" title="Template:Zh-see">zh-see</a>}}</code>，既可以表示其爲簡體，可以將頁面加入相關的分類，比如<a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Chinese_simplified_forms" class="extiw" title="en:Category:Chinese simplified forms">en:Category:Chinese simplified forms</a>，和上文的「帶「XX」的漢語詞條」又可以跳轉。沒有頁面的話，無法對簡體的詞彙進行統計，繁體和簡體的實際使用還是有區別。 <a href="/wiki/User:Kethyga" title="User:Kethyga">Kethyga</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kethyga" title="User talk:Kethyga">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Kethyga-20241030114700-Hzy980512-20241030114000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月30日 (三) 11:47 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kethyga-20241030114700-Hzy980512-20241030114000"><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kethyga-20241030114700-Hzy980512-20241030114000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hzy980512-20241030115700-Kethyga-20241030114700"></span>我可以测试<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Zh-see" title="Template:Zh-see">zh-see</a>}}</code>自动给纯简体页面添加重定向，但是可能需要添加新的参数，更新其他页面等，还是比较麻烦的，我测试好后再讨论，现在先按自动跳转来。 <a href="/wiki/User:Hzy980512" title="User:Hzy980512">Hzy980512</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hzy980512" title="User talk:Hzy980512">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Hzy980512-20241030115700-Kethyga-20241030114700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月30日 (三) 11:57 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hzy980512-20241030115700-Kethyga-20241030114700"><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hzy980512-20241030115700-Kethyga-20241030114700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TongcyDai-20241030114800-Kethyga-20241030113700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Kethyga" title="User:Kethyga">Kethyga</a>：</span>把簡體的「粮」放入正體/繁體的「糧」中是MediaWiki的行為（當目標頁面不存在時就會自動進行轉換）。就算給Category:帶「粮」的漢語詞單獨建立頁面了，在簡體模式下，帶、漢、語、詞這幾個字也不會被轉成簡體，「要先學會所有的繁體字才能查到要找的東西」的問題依然沒有解決。<span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">—<b><a href="/wiki/User:TongcyDai" title="User:TongcyDai"><span style="color: #8F4586"><b>TongcyDai</b></span></a></b></span> <a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span style="color: #FF9224;"><span class="nowrap" style="white-space:nowrap;">ฅ • ω • ฅ</span></span></a> <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-TongcyDai-20241030114800-Kethyga-20241030113700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月30日 (三) 11:48 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TongcyDai-20241030114800-Kethyga-20241030113700"><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TongcyDai-20241030114800-Kethyga-20241030113700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kethyga-20241031020900-TongcyDai-20241030114800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Hzy980512" title="User:Hzy980512">Hzy980512</a> 假如規定所有漢語詞均使用<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Zh-forms" title="Template:Zh-forms">zh-forms</a>}}</code>，那麼未使用<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Zh-forms" title="Template:Zh-forms">zh-forms</a>}}</code>模板的，那麼該頁面必然不是漢語詞（日韓詞），應該阻止標題進行繁簡或地區用字轉換。使用<code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Zh-forms" title="Template:Zh-forms">zh-forms</a>}}</code>的必然含有漢語詞，此時標題或可添加選項允許用戶選擇使用簡體標題。</dd> <dd>（《<a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%BC%A2%E8%AA%9E%E5%A4%A7%E8%A9%9E%E5%85%B8" class="extiw" title="w:漢語大詞典">漢語大詞典</a>》和《<a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%BE%AD%E6%BA%90" class="extiw" title="w:辭源">辭源</a>》》中所有的多字詞條（詞語）均用繁體立目，或可作爲目前以繁體作爲主要頁面的依據；但是鑑於現代讀者和用戶中有大量簡體用戶，實不應該刪除簡體頁面。對於詞條內的使用的內部鏈接，或可考慮一般改爲繁體鏈接） <a href="/wiki/User:Kethyga" title="User:Kethyga">Kethyga</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kethyga" title="User talk:Kethyga">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Kethyga-20241031020900-TongcyDai-20241030114800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月31日 (四) 02:09 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kethyga-20241031020900-TongcyDai-20241030114800"><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kethyga-20241031020900-TongcyDai-20241030114800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hzy980512-20241031035700-Kethyga-20241031020900"></span>改为繁体链接会极大加大简体编者的工作量，非常不支持。-- <a href="/wiki/User:Hzy980512" title="User:Hzy980512">Hzy980512</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hzy980512" title="User talk:Hzy980512">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Hzy980512-20241031035700-Kethyga-20241031020900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月31日 (四) 03:57 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hzy980512-20241031035700-Kethyga-20241031020900"><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hzy980512-20241031035700-Kethyga-20241031020900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kethyga-20241031084700-Hzy980512-20241031035700"></span>或许机器人协助？ <a href="/wiki/User:Kethyga" title="User:Kethyga">Kethyga</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kethyga" title="User talk:Kethyga">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Kethyga-20241031084700-Hzy980512-20241031035700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年10月31日 (四) 08:47 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kethyga-20241031084700-Hzy980512-20241031035700"><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"\u56de\u590d","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">回复</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kethyga-20241031084700-Hzy980512-20241031035700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cpx-pron" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cpx-pron-20241101032600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cpx-pron-20241101032600"></span>Cpx-pron<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cpx-pron-20241101032600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TongcyDai&action=edit&section=6" title="编辑章节：Cpx-pron"><span>编辑</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>最新留言：在<a href="#c-Apisite-20241101082000-Cpx-pron">27天前</a>发布</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2条留言</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1人参与讨论</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apisite-20241101032600-Cpx-pron"></span>I tried the pronunciation module on the entry <a href="/wiki/%E4%BE%BF%E8%BB%8A" title="便車">便車</a>, and apparently, it leaves red-links with a space between the terms in the category names. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Apisite" title="User:Apisite">Apisite</a>（<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Apisite" title="User talk:Apisite">留言</a>） <a href="https://zh.wiktionary.org/wiki/User_talk:TongcyDai#c-Apisite-20241101032600-Cpx-pron" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">2024年11月1日 (五) 03:26 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apisite-20241101032600-Cpx-pron"><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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