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Again, welcome and have fun! </p> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Introduction_to_CZ_for_Wikipedians">You may find it valuable to also read this</a></li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/User:David_Tribe" title="User:David Tribe">David Tribe</a> 00:15, 31 March 2007 (CDT) </p> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#speedy_deletes"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">speedy deletes</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Re:_Somerset_College_page"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Re: Somerset College page</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Computer_draft"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Computer draft</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Signing_Discussion_Comments"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Signing Discussion Comments</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Re:Hiatus"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Re:Hiatus</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Re:Spaces_and_Parenthesis"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">Re:Spaces and Parenthesis</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#Going_away"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">Going away</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Dual_Channel"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Dual Channel</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Appoval_of_Linux_article?"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">Appoval of Linux article?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Meaning_of_approval"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">Meaning of approval</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#Byte"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">Byte</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#Do_me_a_favor"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">Do me a favor</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="speedy_deletes">speedy deletes</span></h2> <p>Hi Pat! Thanks for your help with the speedydeletes. If you could put them on the top of the article pages, that would help me. Thanks! By the way, we're working on the protocols for the priapus article. Thanks for brining that to our attention. --<a href="/wiki/User:D._Matt_Innis" title="User:D. Matt Innis">Matt Innis</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:D._Matt_Innis" title="User talk:D. Matt Innis">(Talk)</a> 22:56, 4 April 2007 (CDT) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Re:_Somerset_College_page">Re: Somerset College page</span></h2> <p>Pat, I wrote that page from scratch. I copied nothing from Wikipedia, however I did start the Wikipedia version, so there may be some similarities. I don't know if I should leave the speedy delete there or no, so for the time being I removed it. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Computer_draft">Computer draft</span></h2> <p>Hey I threw a blurb up at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pat_Palmer/Computer" title="User talk:Pat Palmer/Computer">User_talk:Pat_Palmer/Computer</a>. Just letting you know... I think that's the right place to 'bang up' the draft before you take it live --<a href="/wiki/User:Eric_M_Gearhart" title="User:Eric M Gearhart">Eric M Gearhart</a> 07:14, 6 April 2007 (CDT) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Signing_Discussion_Comments">Signing Discussion Comments</span></h2> <p>Hey just stopping by to let you know... usually in Talk pages people sign their comments... it makes it a lot easier to read because you can visually see the conversation flow, rather than having to flip back the the History page to see who said what when. --~~~~ is the shortcut to signing your comments... it's the little button that actually looks like a signature on the toolbar at the top. It just makes life easier.. I don't know why the MediaWiki software doesn't just automatically sign comments on talk pages come to think of it --<a href="/wiki/User:Eric_M_Gearhart" title="User:Eric M Gearhart">Eric M Gearhart</a> 04:33, 7 April 2007 (CDT) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Re:Hiatus">Re:Hiatus</span></h2> <p>Well... good luck. Please get back on here when you're done.. I can count on one hand the number of active Computers authors on here lol. I'll try and work on the <a href="/wiki/index.php?title=Computers/Draft&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Computers/Draft (page does not exist)">Computers/Draft</a> some more --<a href="/wiki/User:Eric_M_Gearhart" title="User:Eric M Gearhart">Eric M Gearhart</a> 06:50, 9 April 2007 (CDT) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Re:Spaces_and_Parenthesis">Re:Spaces and Parenthesis</span></h2> <p>Hey I added to the discussion over at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Linux_distribution" title="Talk:Linux distribution">Talk:Linux_distribution</a> if you'd like to take a look --<a href="/wiki/User:Eric_M_Gearhart" title="User:Eric M Gearhart">Eric M Gearhart</a> 10:12, 9 April 2007 (CDT) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Going_away">Going away</span></h2> <p>Haha, yes, I imagine by the time you come back, the entire Eric conspiracy will be controlling the world's information supply, brainwashing people into switching to Linux. hehehe :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Joshua_David_Williams" title="User:Joshua David Williams">Joshua David Williams</a> 11:10, 9 April 2007 (CDT) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Dual_Channel">Dual Channel</span></h2> <p>Yeah, honestly, I mean to go back to it and improve it and never really did. Feel free to trash it. -- <a href="/wiki/User:ZachPruckowski" title="User:ZachPruckowski">ZachPruckowski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ZachPruckowski" title="User talk:ZachPruckowski">Speak to me</a>) 22:46, 9 April 2007 (CDT) </p> <h2><span id="Appoval_of_Linux_article.3F"></span><span class="mw-headline" id="Appoval_of_Linux_article?">Appoval of Linux article?</span></h2> <p>I see that you've expfressed some concerns over the first section, so I wanted to check with you before starting the approval process. <a href="/wiki/User:Greg_Woodhouse" title="User:Greg Woodhouse">Greg Woodhouse</a> 21:04, 11 April 2007 (CDT) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Meaning_of_approval">Meaning of approval</span></h2> <p>When an article is approved, that version is frozen, and new draft page is created to handle work on the next version. It is also expected that it will be in publishable form (see <a href="/wiki/CZ:Approval_Process" title="CZ:Approval Process">CZ:Approval Process</a>). Yes, I agree that the people developing these articles are pushing hard for approval (and I don't mean that in the negative sense of the word), perhaps prematurely. But I saw the call for approval, so I thought I should start looking at it. <a href="/wiki/User:Greg_Woodhouse" title="User:Greg Woodhouse">Greg Woodhouse</a> 21:22, 11 April 2007 (CDT) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Byte">Byte</span></h2> <p>Pat, </p><p>Great job with the <a href="/wiki/Byte" title="Byte">byte</a> article! I've been at a loss of what to do with that one. :-) --<a href="/wiki/User:Joshua_David_Williams" title="User:Joshua David Williams">Joshua David Williams</a> 20:36, 23 April 2007 (CDT) </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Do_me_a_favor">Do me a favor</span></h2> <p>Pat, would you do me a favor as I check the "from wikipedia" checkbox for users? Would you please recheck the box on <a href="/wiki/Computer" title="Computer">Computer</a> - making sure to make a small edit (or it won't stay)- and then save it. After that, would you take it back off again - making sure to make a small edit again. Let me know if it works now. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:D._Matt_Innis" title="User:D. Matt Innis">Matt Innis</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:D._Matt_Innis" title="User talk:D. Matt Innis">(Talk)</a> 21:09, 23 April 2007 (CDT) </p><p>Good job! It's a bug that still needs to be fixed. If you see anyone else having this problem, do let them know to make a small edit and that should be able to work around it. Looking forward to seeing your continued good work! If you ever need a constable, you know where to find me;) --<a href="/wiki/User:D._Matt_Innis" title="User:D. Matt Innis">Matt Innis</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:D._Matt_Innis" title="User talk:D. 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