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This is untrue. The article 'List of Toll Roads' list many structures in Canada claimed as toll roads. I am familiar only with Ontario, where only one such road exists to the best of my knowledge, Highway 407. That is hardly 'prevalent.' The list also includes many bridges, which are not toll roads, but toll bridges, surely a different category. All but one listing for Ontario are bridges, none of which are BOT structures. Again, prevalence is overstated, in the province with the highest population in Canada. I suggest that 'Canada' be removed from the list in this article as a location where BOT is 'prevalent.' <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Grandma_Roses&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Grandma Roses (page does not exist)">Grandma Roses</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grandma_Roses" title="User talk:Grandma Roses">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Grandma_Roses" title="Special:Contributions/Grandma Roses">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Toll_road#c-Grandma_Roses-2014-08-28T20:44:00.000Z-Prevalence_in_Canada" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:44, 28 August 2014 (UTC)</a></span></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Grandma_Roses-2014-08-28T20:44:00.000Z-Prevalence_in_Canada"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-08-28T20:44:00.000Z","author":"Grandma Roses","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grandma_Roses-2014-08-28T20:44:00.000Z-Prevalence_in_Canada","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Grandma_Roses-2014-08-28T20:44:00.000Z-Prevalence_in_Canada"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Perey-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Copyright_problem_removed-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Perey-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed"],"text":"Copyright problem removed","linkableTitle":"Copyright problem removed"}--><h2 id="Copyright_problem_removed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Copyright_problem_removed-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Copyright_problem_removed-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z"></span>Copyright problem removed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Copyright_problem_removed-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Toll_road&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Copyright problem removed"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Perey-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Copyright_problem_removed-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Perey-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Perey-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed","timestamp":"2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Perey-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Copyright_problem_removed-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Perey-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed"],"text":"Copyright problem removed","linkableTitle":"Copyright problem removed"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Perey-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed"></span>Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. 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Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Perey" title="User:Perey">Perey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Perey" title="User talk:Perey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Toll_road#c-Perey-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 26 October 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Perey-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z","author":"Perey","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Perey-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Perey-2014-10-26T11:37:00.000Z-Copyright_problem_removed"></span> </p> <dl><dd><b>PS</b> If some etymological information on "turnpike" is needed in the article, it can probably best be placed in the History section where "turnpike" is first mentioned, not in a misleadingly-named "Origin" section. Also, the source mentioned would be a good <i>reference</i>, but as it answers a specific question (and refutes a specific false etymology), it doesn't make a good source for article text, even setting copyright problems aside.</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TagaSanPedroAko-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Collection_methods\"_too_US-centric-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-TagaSanPedroAko-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z-\"Collection_methods\"_too_US-centric"],"text":"\"Collection methods\" too US-centric","linkableTitle":"\"Collection methods\" too US-centric"}--><h2 id=""Collection_methods"_too_US-centric" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Collection_methods"_too_US-centric-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z"><span id=".22Collection_methods.22_too_US-centric"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Collection_methods"_too_US-centric-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z"></span>"Collection methods" too US-centric<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Collection_methods"_too_US-centric-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Toll_road&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: "Collection methods" too US-centric"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TagaSanPedroAko-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Collection_methods\"_too_US-centric-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-TagaSanPedroAko-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z-\"Collection_methods\"_too_US-centric"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-TagaSanPedroAko-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z-\"Collection_methods\"_too_US-centric","timestamp":"2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-TagaSanPedroAko-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Collection_methods\"_too_US-centric-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-TagaSanPedroAko-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z-\"Collection_methods\"_too_US-centric"],"text":"\"Collection methods\" too US-centric","linkableTitle":"\"Collection methods\" too US-centric"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TagaSanPedroAko-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z-"Collection_methods"_too_US-centric"></span>I tagged the "Collection methods" as too biased on the United States (only foreign mention is on Ontario, Canada). The examples shown are mostly those in the United States and no other foreign mention can be seen here. <a href="/wiki/User:TagaSanPedroAko" title="User:TagaSanPedroAko">TagaSanPedroAko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TagaSanPedroAko" title="User talk:TagaSanPedroAko">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Toll_road#c-TagaSanPedroAko-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z-"Collection_methods"_too_US-centric" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 6 May 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TagaSanPedroAko-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z-"Collection_methods"_too_US-centric"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z","author":"TagaSanPedroAko","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TagaSanPedroAko-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z-\"Collection_methods\"_too_US-centric","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TagaSanPedroAko-2017-05-06T09:19:00.000Z-"Collection_methods"_too_US-centric"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Chamblyen-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Incorrect_statement-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Chamblyen-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z-Incorrect_statement"],"text":"Incorrect statement","linkableTitle":"Incorrect statement"}--><h2 id="Incorrect_statement" data-mw-thread-id="h-Incorrect_statement-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Incorrect_statement-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z"></span>Incorrect statement<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Incorrect_statement-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Toll_road&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Incorrect statement"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Chamblyen-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Incorrect_statement-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Chamblyen-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z-Incorrect_statement"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Chamblyen-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z-Incorrect_statement","timestamp":"2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Chamblyen-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Incorrect_statement-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Chamblyen-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z-Incorrect_statement"],"text":"Incorrect statement","linkableTitle":"Incorrect statement"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chamblyen-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z-Incorrect_statement"></span>This statement is made in the article: "Maryland Route 200 and the Triangle Expressway in North Carolina were the first toll roads built without toll booths, with drivers charged via ETC or by optical license plate recognition and are billed by mail." This statement is false without qualification. Both of these tool roads started operating in 2011. <a href="/wiki/Ontario_Highway_407" title="Ontario Highway 407">Ontario Highway 407</a> started operating, totally without toll booths, in 1997, many years before the US highways. Indeed, a paragraph later starts with "Highway 407 in the province of Ontario, Canada, has no toll booths, and instead reads a transponder […]" The statement about the US toll roads needs to be qualified or corrected. <a href="/wiki/User:Chamblyen" title="User:Chamblyen">Chamblyen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chamblyen" title="User talk:Chamblyen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Toll_road#c-Chamblyen-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z-Incorrect_statement" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:59, 17 June 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chamblyen-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z-Incorrect_statement"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z","author":"Chamblyen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chamblyen-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z-Incorrect_statement","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chamblyen-2017-06-17T02:59:00.000Z-Incorrect_statement"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Steel1943-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Peaje\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Steel1943-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z-\"Peaje\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"],"text":"\"Peaje\" listed at Redirects for discussion","linkableTitle":"\"Peaje\" listed at Redirects for discussion"}--><h2 id=""Peaje"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Peaje"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z"><span id=".22Peaje.22_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Peaje"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z"></span>"Peaje" listed at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion">Redirects for discussion</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Peaje"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Toll_road&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: "Peaje" listed at Redirects for discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Steel1943-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Peaje\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Steel1943-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z-\"Peaje\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Steel1943-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z-\"Peaje\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","timestamp":"2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Steel1943-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-\"Peaje\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Steel1943-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z-\"Peaje\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"],"text":"\"Peaje\" listed at Redirects for discussion","linkableTitle":"\"Peaje\" listed at Redirects for discussion"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Steel1943-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z-"Peaje"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> A discussion is taking place to address the redirect <a href="/w/index.php?title=Peaje&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Peaje (page does not exist)">Peaje</a>. The discussion will occur at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2020_August_18#Peaje" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 18">Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 18#Peaje</a> until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Steel1943&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Steel1943 (page does not exist)"><span style="color: #2F4F4F;"><i><b>Steel1943</b></i></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Steel1943" title="User talk:Steel1943">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Toll_road#c-Steel1943-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z-"Peaje"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 18 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Steel1943-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z-"Peaje"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z","author":"Steel1943","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Steel1943-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z-\"Peaje\"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Steel1943-2020-08-18T19:48:00.000Z-"Peaje"_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐5dc468848‐vgkwn Cached time: 20241124221820 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.018 seconds CPU time usage: 0.309 seconds Real time usage: 0.441 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 2438/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 36221/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 3596/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 18/100 Expensive parser function count: 42/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 20256/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.175/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 5497624/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 358.997 1 -total 50.66% 181.883 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 48.41% 173.789 1 Template:Talkheader 21.39% 76.777 1 Template:WikiProject_Civil_engineering 11.72% 42.086 2 Template:Yearly_archive_list 10.07% 36.141 2 Template:For_loop 9.42% 33.813 9 Template:Th/abp 8.26% 29.662 1 Template:Find_sources 7.74% 27.784 1 Template:Tooltip 7.08% 25.422 1 Template:Comma_separated_entries --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:641842-0!canonical and timestamp 20241124221820 and revision id 1194305252. 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