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class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/WPVG_icon_2016.svg/42px-WPVG_icon_2016.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/WPVG_icon_2016.svg/56px-WPVG_icon_2016.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="249" data-file-height="249"/></span></span></span><span class="portalbox-link"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Video_games" title="Portal:Video games">Video games portal</a></span></li></ul>This article is within the scope of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games">WikiProject Video games</a></b>, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of <a href="/wiki/Video_game" title="Video game">video games</a> on Wikipedia. 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scale</a>.</td></tr><tr><td><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Newspaper_Cover.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Note icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Newspaper_Cover.svg/25px-Newspaper_Cover.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Newspaper_Cover.svg/38px-Newspaper_Cover.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Newspaper_Cover.svg/50px-Newspaper_Cover.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="120" data-file-height="120"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure></td><td class="mbox-text" colspan="2">This article is supported by the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Reference_library" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Reference library">Wikiproject VG Reference library</a></b>.</td></tr><tr><td colspan="3" style="padding:0"><table class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="background:transparent;width:100%"><tbody><tr><th style="text-align:left;padding:0.2em 2px 0.2em 0">Summary of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games">Video games WikiProject</a> open tasks:</th></tr><tr><td style="text-align:left;padding:5px;background-color:white;border:1px solid #c0c090;margin-top:5px"> <table role="presentation" class="plainlinks" cellpadding="5" style="text-align: left; border-spacing: 0; border: 1px solid silver; margin-bottom: 1em; font-size: 85%;"> <tbody><tr style="text-align: center;"> <td colspan="2" style="font-weight: bold;"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1129693374">.mw-parser-output .hlist dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul{margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt,.mw-parser-output .hlist li{margin:0;display:inline}.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline 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ol>li:first-child::before{content:" ("counter(listitem)"\a0 "}</style><div class="hlist"> <div role="heading">Summary of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games">Video games WikiProject</a> open tasks</div> <ul class="noprint"> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WPVG_announcements&action=view">view</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WPVG_announcements&action=watch">watch</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WPVG_announcements&action=edit">edit</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WPVG_announcements&action=history">history</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WPVG_announcements/shell&action=view">shell</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games">vg talk</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article alerts">alerts</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WPVG_announcements&action=purge">purge</a></li> </ul> </div> </td></tr> <tr style="vertical-align:top;"> <td width="50%" style="border-right: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <div role="heading" style="font-weight: bold;">AfDs</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist" style="padding-left:1.6em"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Purple_Francis" title="Purple Francis">Purple Francis</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Purple_Francis" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Purple Francis"><b>7</b> participants</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Gilman_Louie" title="Gilman Louie">Gilman Louie</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gilman_Louie" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gilman Louie"><b>2</b> participants</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Yoshimitsu" title="Yoshimitsu">Yoshimitsu</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Yoshimitsu" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yoshimitsu"><b>3</b> participants</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Dr._Wily" title="Dr. Wily">Dr. Wily</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dr._Wily" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr. Wily"><b>8</b> participants</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/First_Internet_Backgammon_Server" title="First Internet Backgammon Server">First Internet Backgammon Server</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/First_Internet_Backgammon_Server_(2nd_nomination)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/First Internet Backgammon Server (2nd nomination)"><b>3</b> participants</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Emote" title="Emote">Emote</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Emote" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emote"><b>2</b> participants</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Preston_Arsement" title="Preston Arsement">Preston Arsement</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Preston_Arsement" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Preston Arsement"><b>6</b> participants</a>; <b><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1239334494">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output div:not(.notheme)>.tmp-color,html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output p>.tmp-color,html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output table:not(.notheme) .tmp-color{color:inherit!important}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output div:not(.notheme)>.tmp-color,html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output p>.tmp-color,html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output table:not(.notheme) .tmp-color{color:inherit!important}}</style><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#FF4F00">relisted</span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Jackpot_World" title="Jackpot World">Jackpot World</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jackpot_World" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jackpot World"><b>3</b> participants</a>; <b><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1239334494"><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#FF4F00">relisted</span></b>)</li></ul> </div> <div role="heading" style="font-weight: bold;">Merge discussions</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist" style="padding-left:1.6em"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Legacy_of_Kain:_Soul_Reaver_1_%26_2_Remastered" title="Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 1 & 2 Remastered">Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 1 & 2 Remastered</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Legacy_of_Kain#Proposed_merge_of_Legacy_of_Kain:_Soul_Reaver_1_&_2_Remastered_into_Legacy_of_Kain" title="Talk:Legacy of Kain">discussion</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Essentials" title="Pokémon Essentials">Pokémon Essentials</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Pok%C3%A9mon_fan_games#Pokémon_Essentials_Merge_Discussion" title="Talk:Pokémon fan games">discussion</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Harvest_Moon_DS:_Sunshine_Islands" title="Harvest Moon DS: Sunshine Islands">Harvest Moon DS: Sunshine Islands</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Harvest_Moon_DS:_Island_of_Happiness#Merger_discussion" title="Talk:Harvest Moon DS: Island of Happiness">discussion</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Input_lag" title="Input lag">Input lag</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Lag_(video_games)#Merge_from_Input_lag" title="Talk:Lag (video games)">discussion</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Neo_Geo_Pocket" title="Neo Geo Pocket">Neo Geo Pocket</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Neo_Geo_Pocket_Color#Merge_NGP_here" title="Talk:Neo Geo Pocket Color">discussion</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Minecraft_%E2%80%93_Volume_Beta" title="Minecraft – Volume Beta">Minecraft – Volume Beta</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Music_of_Minecraft#Proposed_merge_of_Minecraft_–_Volume_Beta_into_Music_of_Minecraft" title="Talk:Music of Minecraft">discussion</a>)</li></ul> </div> </td> <td width="50%"> <div role="heading" style="font-weight: bold;">Other discussions</div> <div style="margin-left: 1.6em; font-style: italic;">No major discussions</div> <div role="heading" style="font-weight: bold;">Featured content candidates <span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Featured_article_star.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Featured article"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/16px-Featured_article_star.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/24px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Featured_article_star.svg/32px-Featured_article_star.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="180"/></a></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist" style="padding-left:1.6em"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Claire_Redfield" title="Claire Redfield">Claire Redfield</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Claire_Redfield/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Claire Redfield/archive1">nom</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_episodes_removed_from_rotation" title="Pokémon episodes removed from rotation"><i>Pokémon</i> episodes removed from rotation</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_list_candidates/Pok%C3%A9mon_episodes_removed_from_rotation/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Pokémon episodes removed from rotation/archive1">nom</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Donkey_Kong" title="Donkey Kong"><i>Donkey Kong</i></a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Donkey_Kong/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Donkey Kong/archive1">nom</a>)</li></ul> </div> <div role="heading" style="font-weight: bold;">Good article nominations <span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><span title="Good article"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/31px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist" style="padding-left:1.6em"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Tina_Armstrong" title="Tina Armstrong">Tina Armstrong</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ATina_Armstrong%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Kim_Kitsuragi" title="Kim Kitsuragi">Kim Kitsuragi</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AKim_Kitsuragi%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Miner_2049er" title="Miner 2049er">Miner 2049er</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMiner_2049er%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Pixel_Piracy" title="Pixel Piracy">Pixel Piracy</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APixel_Piracy%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Dr_Disrespect" title="Dr Disrespect">Dr Disrespect</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:Dr_Disrespect/GA1" title="Talk:Dr Disrespect/GA1">nom</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/The_Outer_Worlds" title="The Outer Worlds">The Outer Worlds</a> (<a href="/wiki/Talk:The_Outer_Worlds/GA1" title="Talk:The Outer Worlds/GA1">nom</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/River_Raid" title="River Raid">River Raid</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ARiver_Raid%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/The_Great_Giana_Sisters" title="The Great Giana Sisters">The Great Giana Sisters</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AThe_Great_Giana_Sisters%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Haunter_(Pok%C3%A9mon)" title="Haunter (Pokémon)">Haunter (Pokémon)</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHaunter_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Bit_City" title="Bit City">Bit City</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABit_City%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Dendy" title="Dendy">Dendy</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ADendy%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Dark_Urge" title="Dark Urge">Dark Urge</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ADark_Urge%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Scarlet_and_Violet" title="Pokémon Scarlet and Violet">Pokémon Scarlet and Violet</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APok%C3%A9mon_Scarlet_and_Violet%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Jeanette_Voerman" title="Jeanette Voerman">Jeanette Voerman</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AJeanette_Voerman%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Crono" title="Crono">Crono</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ACrono%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Deathloop" title="Deathloop">Deathloop</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ADeathloop%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Quiver_(video_game)" title="Quiver (video game)">Quiver (video game)</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AQuiver_%28video_game%29%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Regi_(Pok%C3%A9mon)" title="Regi (Pokémon)">Regi (Pokémon)</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ARegi_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Ridley_(Metroid)" title="Ridley (Metroid)">Ridley (Metroid)</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ARidley_%28Metroid%29%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Blast_Wind" title="Blast Wind">Blast Wind</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABlast_Wind%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Project_Zero_2:_Wii_Edition" title="Project Zero 2: Wii Edition">Project Zero 2: Wii Edition</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AProject_Zero_2%3A_Wii_Edition%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Shiori_Fujisaki" title="Shiori Fujisaki">Shiori Fujisaki</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AShiori_Fujisaki%2FGA1&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Barry_Burton" title="Barry Burton">Barry Burton</a> (<b><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABarry_Burton%2FGA2&preload=Template%3AGAN%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AGAN%2Feditintro&action=edit">start</a></span></b>)</li></ul></div> <div role="heading" style="font-weight: bold;">DYK nominations <span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><span title="Did You Know?"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/16px-Symbol_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/23px-Symbol_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Symbol_question.svg/31px-Symbol_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist" style="padding-left:1.6em"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Bejeweled_(video_game)" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Bejeweled (video game)">Bejeweled</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Sun_Haven_(video_game)" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Sun Haven (video game)">Sun Haven</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Tiny_Glade" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Tiny Glade">Tiny Glade</a></li></ul> </div> <div role="heading" style="font-weight: bold;">Reviews and reassessments <span class="noviewer" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_kedit.png" class="mw-file-description" title="Peer review"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Nuvola_apps_kedit.png/16px-Nuvola_apps_kedit.png" decoding="async" width="16" height="16" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Nuvola_apps_kedit.png/24px-Nuvola_apps_kedit.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Nuvola_apps_kedit.png/32px-Nuvola_apps_kedit.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a></span></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist" style="padding-left:1.6em"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/A_Space_for_the_Unbound" title="A Space for the Unbound"><i>A Space for the Unbound</i></a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/A_Space_for_the_Unbound/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/A Space for the Unbound/archive1">rev</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wild_Arms_(video_game)" title="Wild Arms (video game)"><i>Wild Arms</i> (video game)</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_reassessment/Wild_Arms_(video_game)/1" title="Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Wild Arms (video game)/1">nom</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Bejeweled_(video_game)" title="Bejeweled (video game)"><i>Bejeweled</i> (video game)</a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Bejeweled_(video_game)/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/Bejeweled (video game)/archive1">rev</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/The_Legend_of_Dragoon" title="The Legend of Dragoon"><i>The Legend of Dragoon</i></a> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/The_Legend_of_Dragoon/archive2" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/The Legend of Dragoon/archive2">rev</a>)</li></ul> </div> </td></tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-top: 1px dotted #aaa;"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1129693374"><div class="hlist inline"><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Backlog" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Backlog">Articles that need...</a></b><ul> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Assessment" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment">assessment</a> (<a href="/wiki/Category:Unassessed_video_game_articles" title="Category:Unassessed video game articles">4</a>) (<a href="/wiki/Category:Unknown-importance_video_game_articles" title="Category:Unknown-importance video game articles">0</a>)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_video_game_articles_for_reassessment" title="Category:Wikipedia video game articles for reassessment">reassessment</a> (0)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:Video_game_cleanup" title="Category:Video game cleanup">cleanup</a> (7)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:Video_game_articles_needing_infoboxes" title="Category:Video game articles needing infoboxes">infoboxes</a> (12)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:Video_game_articles_requesting_identifying_art" title="Category:Video game articles requesting identifying art">cover art</a> (243)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:Video_game_articles_requesting_screenshots" title="Category:Video game articles requesting screenshots">screenshots</a> (8,921)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:Video_game_articles_requesting_photos" title="Category:Video game articles requesting photos">photos</a> (67)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:Video_game_articles_needing_translation_from_Japanese_Wikipedia" title="Category:Video game articles needing translation from Japanese Wikipedia">translation from japan</a> (188)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Requests" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Requests">creation</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=articletopic%3Avideo-games+incategory%3A%22Articles+currently+being+merged%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1">merging</a></li> </ul> </div> </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Journalistic_Integrity_/_Subjectivity_in_"news"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Journalistic_Integrity_/_Subjectivity_in_"news"-2010-11-03T07:24:00.000Z"><span id="Journalistic_Integrity_.2F_Subjectivity_in_.22news.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Journalistic_Integrity_/_Subjectivity_in_"news"-2010-11-03T07:24:00.000Z"></span>Journalistic Integrity / Subjectivity in "news"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Journalistic_Integrity_/_Subjectivity_in_"news"-2010-11-03T07:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Journalistic Integrity / Subjectivity in "news""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skgordon-2010-11-03T07:24:00.000Z-Journalistic_Integrity_/_Subjectivity_in_"news""></span>Despite the instance happening on a single topic, it has spread for a course of several months about something many agree is extremely important. Irrespective of how people view the magazine or the credibility of the website, I'd like to introduce the idea of fairly displaying the magazine and website controversies - specifically journalistic integrity, and perhaps just list it in a "controversies" subsection on the game informer wiki page. </p><p>The instances are listed by members of their site here: </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://gameinformer.com/blogs/members/b/ejronin_blog1/archive/2010/10/31/i-see-what-you-did-there-an-open-letter-to-the-game-informer-staff-and-editors.aspx">http://gameinformer.com/blogs/members/b/ejronin_blog1/archive/2010/10/31/i-see-what-you-did-there-an-open-letter-to-the-game-informer-staff-and-editors.aspx</a> </p><p>To be clear, while I am the author of that open letter, this is not the article or blog that I'll cite in the content of the section, but rather 4 of the articles verified as misleading and presented out of context. The purpose of linking it in the talk section here is to express forthrightness. </p><p>Staff has yet to address the issue and other members claim to have written the editors challenging bias and misreporting facts with no response or corrections made. <a href="/wiki/User:Skgordon" title="User:Skgordon">Skgordon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Skgordon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Skgordon (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Skgordon-2010-11-03T07:24:00.000Z-Journalistic_Integrity_/_Subjectivity_in_"news"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 3 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skgordon-2010-11-03T07:24:00.000Z-Journalistic_Integrity_/_Subjectivity_in_"news""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skgordon-2010-11-03T07:24:00.000Z-Journalistic_Integrity_/_Subjectivity_in_"news""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skgordon-2010-11-03T18:55:00.000Z-Skgordon-2010-11-03T07:24:00.000Z"></span>Added "controversies" section, outlining the questionable objectivity to items reported as news. The reason being 'news' denotes items containing fact, presented in an unbiased manner, and free from yellow journalism. Whether readers expect it or if it a norm in "American society" is irrelevant. Facts do not succumb to opinion.<a href="/wiki/User:Skgordon" title="User:Skgordon">Skgordon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Skgordon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Skgordon (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Skgordon-2010-11-03T18:55:00.000Z-Skgordon-2010-11-03T07:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 3 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skgordon-2010-11-03T18:55:00.000Z-Skgordon-2010-11-03T07:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skgordon-2010-11-03T18:55:00.000Z-Skgordon-2010-11-03T07:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Staronson-2010-11-04T01:20:00.000Z-Skgordon-2010-11-03T18:55:00.000Z"></span>I deleted the "Controversies" entry you created for the following reasons. I read the blog you posted from "members of their site" -- the author is Shawn Gordon, which is you, and the fact that you are the only source for these supposed "controversies" violates <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COS">WP:COS</a>. The examples you cite in your blog post are also largely subjective in nature, and contain no hard evidence of wrongdoing or the deliberate intent of Game Informer's editors to mislead readers. The Wikipedia entry you created cited "articles accused" of unethical journalism -- again accused solely by you -- but no description is given for what is wrong with these articles, and again no evidence of potential wrongdoing is cited. Wikipedia is a place used to collect and share facts, not opinions -- the fact that you state you created the entry to outline "questionable objectivity" suggests that your accusations are subjective in nature; otherwise they wouldn't be questionable. Furthermore, while I personally agree with your standards of journalism and what constitutes the label of "news", the fact remains that being a private website and magazine, the staff of Game Informer have the right to include statements of opinion in their reporting, and still call it news or whatever other label they deem fit, whether you (or I) agree that it meets our personal standards for journalistic integrity. In short, Wikipedia has a higher standard for reporting than Game Informer might, and entries here should not contain unsupported accusations, subjective statements, or personal opinions. I don't know what the staff of Game Informer did to upset you, but don't use Wikipedia to air your personal grievances. That's what blogs (like the one you posted above) are for.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Staronson&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Staronson (page does not exist)">Staronson</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Staronson&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Staronson (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Staronson-2010-11-04T01:20:00.000Z-Skgordon-2010-11-03T18:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:20, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Staronson-2010-11-04T01:20:00.000Z-Skgordon-2010-11-03T18:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Staronson-2010-11-04T01:20:00.000Z-Skgordon-2010-11-03T18:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skgordon-2010-11-04T03:37:00.000Z-Staronson-2010-11-04T01:20:00.000Z"></span>I think you may unfairly imply I was hiding behind something. I didn't cite my own blog in the entry because personal blogs are not acceptable citation or solid sources. I presented it in the 'talk' section for reference. I know it was me, I didn't hide it. "Members" is factual. One member (me) wrote the blog - yes and I don't deny that nor would I, but other members either agree or made additional claims in the comments to that blog. I retain it as 'fair' to say 'some members'. If you're implying that I was attacking or "pouncing from the shadows," please just come forward with that and make that claim so that the matter can be cleared up.</dd> <dd><i>"the fact that you state you created the entry to outline "questionable objectivity" suggests that your accusations are subjective in nature; otherwise they wouldn't be questionable."</i></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Suggestive is not subjective, and 'talk' is merely my reason outline, not how it is presented in the entry. The entry itself was factual, referenced and cited, and entailed only the 'news' items proven to be misleading. I have no way of knowing if you read the entry, but I do not have a strong impression that you read and looked at the citations before deletion.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I believe a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COS">WP:COS</a> violation is, in this sense, required since citing myself would create a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>, and it is easily verifiable that more than myself make accusations against GI staff across the web and within the site. However, addition of a list of people, sites and claims by just me would appear as a smear campaign, right? I reference the blog in "talk" to provide clarity but it in no way presents itself in the actual entry. I wonder if you read the entry itself prior to deletion because in your reason for deletion you do not reference the section, only the "talk" as a means of justification for removal. If this is incorrect, prior to removal you should let someone know or ask. I understand that there's no way to know if I'll respond back, but at least 24 hours or a stronger consensus should have occurred. Also, I'm uncertain if you truly went through the comments to determine your conclusions. Regardless, the articles and the original sources, and secondary sources were enough to verify poor quality.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I don't dispute that GI may retain right to do as they please in context to tag methodology, but what people universally expect and get from other magazines doesn't adjust because GI does it different. Stating faulty methods in contrast to the level of importance they claim and in reference to the standards they claim is not my way gaming the system for some kind of vendetta. They didn't "do" anything "to" me. I have had a rather pleasant relationship with a few of the staff in the limited personal communications I have had with them, albeit that was months ago in idle chit-chat.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I still believe, and retain that a "controversies" section should be presented on items I originally presented because I see no reason to not include this into factual events about the magazine and staff. Now, in no way do I imply any disrespect, but given that you have no user page, how am I to know you are not affiliated with the staff or a former editor thereby making removal of the section a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a>? I'm considering replacing the section, but would prefer to seek advice on proper methods to fit within the wiki guidelines. Again, of course, only in good faith. <a href="/wiki/User:Skgordon" title="User:Skgordon">Skgordon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Skgordon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Skgordon (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Skgordon-2010-11-04T03:37:00.000Z-Staronson-2010-11-04T01:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:37, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skgordon-2010-11-04T03:37:00.000Z-Staronson-2010-11-04T01:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skgordon-2010-11-04T03:37:00.000Z-Staronson-2010-11-04T01:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Staronson-2010-11-04T17:03:00.000Z-Journalistic_Integrity_/_Subjectivity_in_"news""></span>Please know that I did carefully read your Wikipedia entry, as well as your blog post and the comments that were posted there. I did not delete the entry because of what you listed in this talk section, but merely cited it to point out that the claims made in your wikipedia entry were not hard facts, but merely your own assertions that questionable reporting may be occurring. I did not mean to imply that you are jumping from the shadows, but you are reporting a controversy that you are the main advocate of, and a few comments from anonymous users on a blog post does not constitute secondary evidence -- if that was the standard, then you could create a controversy entry for every GI review that more than one commenter has complained about. </p><p>I still assert that the "articles accused" section of the entry you created contained no explanation of why those articles were being listed, and you didn't cite any evidence that shows GI staff members have intentionally misled readers. You cannot simply cite the original article and their source material and expect Wiki users to interpret the differences in the same way you do. A valid piece of evidence would be a published article that calls out and proves inappropriate reporting from GI, which I have not seen as of this time. This talk section has an entry regarding the magazine's scoring for Paper Mario, which has much more evidence of a controversy (a Jive article which now appears to be defunct), and users here are still debating whether it is worthy of being included. Your main contention for your own entry is still that by labeling entries on their site as news, GI is somehow required to live up to your personal standard for what constitutes as journalism, which you say is universally expected: Compare their tone to the reporting done on any other video game news website, and I think you'll find they meet what is universally expected, if not by your own admission, exceed it. </p><p>I apologize for my final remark regarding using Wikipedia to air personal grievances, which was an assumption on my part. I now believe that you are just a reader of their site with a very high standard for journalistic integrity. However, you cannot demand that GI conforms to your personal standards, and claiming that there's a controversy based on your own complaint, backed only by a handful of anonymous sympathetic comments (while ignoring the comments that disagree with your claims) does not meet Wikipedia's standards for inclusion. I shouldn't have made an assumption about your motives; don't undermine your own argument by making false <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COI">WP:COI</a> accusations against me. I do not work for GI, nor am I particularly a fan of their site or magazine. I am, however, a fan of Wikipedia, and believe entries here should be based solely on objective facts. When you have credible, published evidence of wrongdoing, then we can have this conversation again. Until then, we should focus on fleshing out the rest of the Wiki page with information that we have legitimate source material for.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Staronson&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Staronson (page does not exist)">Staronson</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Staronson&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Staronson (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Staronson-2010-11-04T17:03:00.000Z-Journalistic_Integrity_/_Subjectivity_in_"news"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:03, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Staronson-2010-11-04T17:03:00.000Z-Journalistic_Integrity_/_Subjectivity_in_"news""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Staronson-2010-11-04T17:03:00.000Z-Journalistic_Integrity_/_Subjectivity_in_"news""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_actual_Mag" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_actual_Mag"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_actual_Mag"></span>The actual Mag<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_actual_Mag"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: The actual Mag"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>I don't really have time to do it (I'm not even registered here), but I think more information should be posted about the actual magazine rather than the web page, such as all of the editors, the games that received 10s, sections of the magazine (GI Classic, Game Infarcer, etc.) </p><p>Just my suggestion </p><p>--Casey </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Paper_Mario" data-mw-thread-id="h-Paper_Mario-2005-10-15T01:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Paper_Mario-2005-10-15T01:10:00.000Z"></span>Paper Mario<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Paper_Mario-2005-10-15T01:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Paper Mario"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amphax-2005-10-15T01:10:00.000Z-Paper_Mario"></span>I don't have time right now to write this up, but... </p><p>I was thinking that perhaps something about the famous "Paper Mario" controversy and the "Gaming public" (which was later taken back) scandal should be posted here. It was a monumental event and many people took it very seriously. What do you think? </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amphax&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amphax (page does not exist)">Amphax</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Amphax-2005-10-15T01:10:00.000Z-Paper_Mario" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 15 October 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amphax-2005-10-15T01:10:00.000Z-Paper_Mario"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amphax-2005-10-15T01:10:00.000Z-Paper_Mario"></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amphax-2005-10-17T21:38:00.000Z-Paper_Mario"></span> i know about the paper mario thing...but what was the "gaming public" controversy? -DF </p><p>A link is here: </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.jivemagazine.com/column.php?pid=2589&PHPSESSID=5d0681eb10ecbf91718844d2e02c0fd2">http://www.jivemagazine.com/column.php?pid=2589&PHPSESSID=5d0681eb10ecbf91718844d2e02c0fd2</a> [warning, it uses the 'BS' word in it, I don't particularly care for profanity myself, but all in all its a pretty well written article] </p><p>You'll get the full quote from that article, here's the part I was talking about: </p><p><i> Remember, we aren't scoring games strictly on our personal opinions, we're also scoring them based on how much we think THE GAMING PUBLIC will like them.</i> </p><p>He later recanted this statement, but it sent shockwaves throughout the Internet (just Google "GAMING PUBLIC" "Game Informer" to see what I mean). What do you think, worth a write up? </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amphax&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amphax (page does not exist)">Amphax</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Amphax-2005-10-17T21:38:00.000Z-Paper_Mario" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amphax-2005-10-17T21:38:00.000Z-Paper_Mario"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amphax-2005-10-17T21:38:00.000Z-Paper_Mario"></span> </p><p>A write up would be good. But it should be more then just the controversys. -DF </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="pictures" data-mw-thread-id="h-pictures-2006-02-19T20:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-pictures-2006-02-19T20:30:00.000Z"></span>pictures<span data-mw-comment-end="h-pictures-2006-02-19T20:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: pictures"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c--Egore--2006-02-19T20:30:00.000Z-pictures"></span>Someone please put up the monthly cover issue of gaminformer in a pic. EGM does, so does gamepro </p><p>I used the March 2006 cover from their website.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:-Egore-&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:-Egore- (page does not exist)">-Egore-</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c--Egore--2006-02-19T20:30:00.000Z-pictures" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 19 February 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c--Egore--2006-02-19T20:30:00.000Z-pictures"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c--Egore--2006-02-19T20:30:00.000Z-pictures"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Paper_Mario_Controversy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Paper_Mario_Controversy-2006-01-31T23:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Paper_Mario_Controversy-2006-01-31T23:26:00.000Z"></span>Paper Mario Controversy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Paper_Mario_Controversy-2006-01-31T23:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Paper Mario Controversy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amphax-2006-01-31T23:26:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy"></span>Okay, it seems like a writeup would be good. I'll try to remember to get around to it sometime. Like I mentioned earlier, Google is a good resource, and that Jive Magazine link is a rather analytical source, we just have to be careful to have a netural POV. </p><p>It should also be noted that many other outlets gave Paper Mario a very high score, so for GI to give it a low score and then make the claims that it did was unusual. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Amphax&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Amphax (page does not exist)">Amphax</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Amphax-2006-01-31T23:26:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:26, 31 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amphax-2006-01-31T23:26:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amphax-2006-01-31T23:26:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim_Jimson-2006-03-14T01:45:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy"></span>- Here's a link to a copy of the original post... <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://gamecritics.com/forums/showthread.php?mode=hybrid&t=8497">http://gamecritics.com/forums/showthread.php?mode=hybrid&t=8497</a> </p><p>That page includes a posting of Andy's response, which was originally posted here... <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.ga-forum.com/printthread.php?t=18453&page=3&pp=100">http://www.ga-forum.com/printthread.php?t=18453&page=3&pp=100</a> (search for Hemmdog) </p><p>By the way, I like the idea you're going with at the end of the page so far, but I think it could use a little more linguistic tweaking, to make it more Wiki-ish. Also, at least one other example should be provided (like the fake Newbie Cheat Sheet entry in every issue). -- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TheInvisMan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TheInvisMan (page does not exist)">TheInvisMan</a>, 04:55 PM EST, February 19, 2006 </p><p>To the Wacko put the smarmy comment about the forums know this: it has been deleted. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jim_Jimson&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jim Jimson (page does not exist)">Jim Jimson</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Jim_Jimson-2006-03-14T01:45:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim_Jimson-2006-03-14T01:45:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim_Jimson-2006-03-14T01:45:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-128.101.52.216-2007-09-06T00:54:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy"></span>to Jim who got rid of my comments, know this: its back, and every time you delete it, i will put it back. </p><p>I don't see how mention of the Paper Mario "controversy" contributes to the content of the article, personally. <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/128.101.52.216" title="Special:Contributions/128.101.52.216">128.101.52.216</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:128.101.52.216&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:128.101.52.216 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-128.101.52.216-2007-09-06T00:54:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:54, 6 September 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-128.101.52.216-2007-09-06T00:54:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-128.101.52.216-2007-09-06T00:54:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skgordon-2010-11-03T18:50:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy"></span>I see it two ways - it adds, in that it properly denotes lack of objectivity. Whether or not people expect subjective output from a gaming mag, a degree of objectivity is expected by the journalistic community. In short, it holds them to a higher standard than expected, but that's how it works. To be the top, you have to act it. </p><p>Second, it may come off as 'dogging' them, which subjectively appears bad in context to wikipedia - </p><p>so - is it more important to present factual information in an unbiased format or to tell people what you think they want to hear? I vote for the former. <a href="/wiki/User:Skgordon" title="User:Skgordon">Skgordon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Skgordon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Skgordon (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Skgordon-2010-11-03T18:50:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 3 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skgordon-2010-11-03T18:50:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skgordon-2010-11-03T18:50:00.000Z-Paper_Mario_Controversy"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="stop_getting_rid_of_my_comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-stop_getting_rid_of_my_comment-2006-04-10T14:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-stop_getting_rid_of_my_comment-2006-04-10T14:53:00.000Z"></span>stop getting rid of my comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-stop_getting_rid_of_my_comment-2006-04-10T14:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: stop getting rid of my comment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gregbirdsall-2006-04-10T14:53:00.000Z-stop_getting_rid_of_my_comment"></span>You don't understand, every time you get rid of my comment "Unfortunately a lot of the moderators take the job way to seriously and end up ruining an otherwise great forum." I will simply just put it back, so dont bother. </p> <dl><dd>I think the problem with this is that it is your opinion, not a fact. <a href="/wiki/User:Gregbirdsall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Gregbirdsall">Greg Birdsall</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Gregbirdsall-2006-04-10T14:53:00.000Z-stop_getting_rid_of_my_comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gregbirdsall-2006-04-10T14:53:00.000Z-stop_getting_rid_of_my_comment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gregbirdsall-2006-04-10T14:53:00.000Z-stop_getting_rid_of_my_comment"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-67.177.49.13-2008-05-17T08:35:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-04-10T14:53:00.000Z"></span>Giving that one of the key tenets at WP is remaining on topic, I suggest that you lump your criticism in with some legitimate comments to avoid a ban or removal of commments. The Game Informer article is hardly the place to campaign for site change :).<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.177.49.13" title="Special:Contributions/67.177.49.13">67.177.49.13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:67.177.49.13" title="User talk:67.177.49.13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-67.177.49.13-2008-05-17T08:35:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-04-10T14:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:35, 17 May 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-67.177.49.13-2008-05-17T08:35:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-04-10T14:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-67.177.49.13-2008-05-17T08:35:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-04-10T14:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""objectiveness"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"objectiveness"-2006-05-16T15:48:00.000Z"><span id=".22objectiveness.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"objectiveness"-2006-05-16T15:48:00.000Z"></span>"objectiveness"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"objectiveness"-2006-05-16T15:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: "objectiveness""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheInvisMan-2006-05-16T15:48:00.000Z-"objectiveness""></span>"Because Game Informer is still owned by the GameStop Corp., the magazine is featured prominently at GameStop store locations. <b>For this same reason the objectiveness of the magazine should be taken into account</b>."<br/> What is the logic behind this statement, exactly? How does the affiliation with a major retail chain imply a journalistic bias of the magazine, towards a company like Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft, or towards any other game publisher/developer?<br/> Also, "objectiveness" should be changed to "objectivity" - it's a much better word, I think.<br/> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TheInvisMan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TheInvisMan (page does not exist)">TheInvisMan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-TheInvisMan-2006-05-16T15:48:00.000Z-"objectiveness"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 16 May 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheInvisMan-2006-05-16T15:48:00.000Z-"objectiveness""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheInvisMan-2006-05-16T15:48:00.000Z-"objectiveness""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gregbirdsall-2006-06-05T18:51:00.000Z-TheInvisMan-2006-05-16T15:48:00.000Z"></span>Probably because their parent company makes its money by selling video games, and they are a magizine that reviews video games. If they rate a game a higher score than it may deserve, their parent corporation may sell more copies of that title. There is no proof of course, as reviews are an inherintly subjective process, but the temptation is still there. While the argument that any magazine that makes its money from advertising can be subject to the same scrutiny, others, such as EGM, have actually lost advertisers from negative reviews and have stood by their poilcy as such. Game Informer has the oppurtunity for more bias for giving games good reviews as their parent company makes its money off of the sales of games instead of the advertising of the game companies. <a href="/wiki/User:Gregbirdsall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Gregbirdsall">Greg Birdsall</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Gregbirdsall-2006-06-05T18:51:00.000Z-TheInvisMan-2006-05-16T15:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 5 June 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gregbirdsall-2006-06-05T18:51:00.000Z-TheInvisMan-2006-05-16T15:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gregbirdsall-2006-06-05T18:51:00.000Z-TheInvisMan-2006-05-16T15:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-07-17T15:57:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-06-05T18:51:00.000Z"></span>It's BS. GI have ALWAYS rates Mario Party games poorly, despite how well they are known to sell. It's POV as well, and so I changed it. I'd like to remove the entire objectivity piece, but I'm a fair guy.<a href="/wiki/User:Fiction_Alchemist" title="User:Fiction Alchemist">Fiction Alchemist</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-07-17T15:57:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-06-05T18:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-07-17T15:57:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-06-05T18:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-07-17T15:57:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-06-05T18:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gregbirdsall-2006-07-20T15:11:00.000Z-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-07-17T15:57:00.000Z"></span>Actually, I didn't have anything to say about Paper Mario at all - you always have to take objectivity into account when dealing with any company, but moreso when the company directly makes profits from the products they are reviewing. <a href="/wiki/User:Gregbirdsall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Gregbirdsall">Greg Birdsall</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Gregbirdsall-2006-07-20T15:11:00.000Z-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-07-17T15:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gregbirdsall-2006-07-20T15:11:00.000Z-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-07-17T15:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gregbirdsall-2006-07-20T15:11:00.000Z-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-07-17T15:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-01T22:09:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-07-20T15:11:00.000Z"></span>Who said anything about Paper Mario? =) Anyway... I was merely stating that the allegations that GI may be biased because of their owners is a theory without any evidence behind it. I agree that one must keep an eye open for bias as you mention, but GI have not shown any evidence of this bias. <a href="/wiki/User:Fiction_Alchemist" title="User:Fiction Alchemist">Fiction Alchemist</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-01T22:09:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-07-20T15:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 1 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-01T22:09:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-07-20T15:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-01T22:09:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-07-20T15:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gregbirdsall-2006-08-03T14:25:00.000Z-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-01T22:09:00.000Z"></span>You are correct, I typed the wrong game name in, but I didn't say anything about Mario Party either. What evidence are you speaking of? The fact that they are owned by Gamestop/EB is a fact. I think we are talking about two different thing, I'm not saying they are biased against one system or company, or that they consistantly rate one series lower than anything else, I am stating that they have a finanicial interest in rating games higher than average. Wheather or not they do this is a hard fact to prove, as all evidence is subjective, but you must still take into account they they are owned by a company which makes its money selling the very games they review. <a href="/wiki/User:Gregbirdsall" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Gregbirdsall">Greg Birdsall</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Gregbirdsall-2006-08-03T14:25:00.000Z-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-01T22:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gregbirdsall-2006-08-03T14:25:00.000Z-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-01T22:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gregbirdsall-2006-08-03T14:25:00.000Z-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-01T22:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-22T15:56:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-08-03T14:25:00.000Z"></span>Right, and I agreed with all of that; you are right. Sorry if what I said was confusing or poorly written. I'm merely trying to say: Innocent until proven guilty, and GI hasn't even had any evidence against them. :) <a href="/wiki/User:Fiction_Alchemist" title="User:Fiction Alchemist">Fiction Alchemist</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-22T15:56:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-08-03T14:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-22T15:56:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-08-03T14:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-22T15:56:00.000Z-Gregbirdsall-2006-08-03T14:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-12-30T13:39:00.000Z-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-22T15:56:00.000Z"></span>I would have to beg to differ with the no bias statement. I have noticed ove rthe past several months that Game Informer has a strong Sony bias. For what reason, I don't know but serveral articles have been more than evidence for me. If you need an example, see the article "The Calm Before the Storm" on page 40 of the December issue of game informer. <a href="/wiki/User:Sithguy" title="User:Sithguy">Sithguy</a> 17:35, 27 November (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>And your proof is what? In a recent issue, GI rated WII as a better system than the PS3 in an objective review. Was that Sony bias? Will you shift to saying it is a Nintendo bias now? <a href="/wiki/User:Fiction_Alchemist" title="User:Fiction Alchemist">Fiction Alchemist</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-12-30T13:39:00.000Z-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-22T15:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 30 December 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-12-30T13:39:00.000Z-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-22T15:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-12-30T13:39:00.000Z-Fiction_Alchemist-2006-08-22T15:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-99.5.72.7-2011-04-07T23:12:00.000Z-"objectiveness""></span>I'll tell you this, Game Informer did mark Mario Party 6 or 7 down to a 2 in one issue, no obvious reason was given other than the writer didn't like that the series had been around for as long as it had.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <pre> Game informer online has some thing called replay were they replay old games that they have revied the record the conversations of the players and videotape the gameplay. on one such ocasion they played mario party only one of the four partisipating players liked the game. they even had the reviewer of the recent mario party 7. he stated that he hates the mario party games because they are based purly on luck and that the game last long too long he akined it to the main flaws of monopoly. all the boards are almost exactly the same and the game trys to make the round last even longer with chance events that can uterly destroy some player even if they are in the lead. he does not like it because it is too given up to chance and too repetitive with the same things in all seven versions of the game.the review in the magazine is a shortend version of the full review the full review is on the website.--from anon <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.5.72.7" title="Special:Contributions/99.5.72.7">99.5.72.7</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:99.5.72.7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:99.5.72.7 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-99.5.72.7-2011-04-07T23:12:00.000Z-"objectiveness"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:12, 7 April 2011 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-99.5.72.7-2011-04-07T23:12:00.000Z-"objectiveness""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-99.5.72.7-2011-04-07T23:12:00.000Z-"objectiveness""></span> </pre> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alabasterchinchilla-2006-12-31T04:58:00.000Z-"objectiveness""></span>I just wanted to say, as a GameStop employee, that we do more in-store advertising for games that GI rates highly. For example, when God of War was given a 10, GameStop sent the stores marketing kits featuring small signs to attach to the shelves showing what GI gave God of War. GameStop has done that with many games since then. It doesn't make it a definite bias, but we don't show what other gaming mags have said about a game. Also, don't forget that GameStop offers the Edge card free with a subscription to GameInformer magazine, and that you can't get the Edge card without the subscription. <a href="/wiki/User:Alabasterchinchilla" title="User:Alabasterchinchilla">Alabasterchinchilla</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Alabasterchinchilla-2006-12-31T04:58:00.000Z-"objectiveness"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alabasterchinchilla-2006-12-31T04:58:00.000Z-"objectiveness""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alabasterchinchilla-2006-12-31T04:58:00.000Z-"objectiveness""></span> </p><p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:15:00.000Z-"objectiveness""></span> Two thing, one objectivity is much better because before the word could have been confused with the Ayn Rand philosophy.Two GI is ussually clear of any bias, however i did feel they were slightly bias against Sony when they talked about the launch. I'm a 360 gamer and I completly agree with them, but I'm biased<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.121.36.237" title="Special:Contributions/75.121.36.237">75.121.36.237</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:75.121.36.237" title="User talk:75.121.36.237">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:15:00.000Z-"objectiveness"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:15, 28 March 2008 (UTC)</a>Arbiter099<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:15:00.000Z-"objectiveness""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:15:00.000Z-"objectiveness""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_article_needs_citations." data-mw-thread-id="h-The_article_needs_citations.-2006-08-16T00:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_article_needs_citations.-2006-08-16T00:11:00.000Z"></span>The article needs citations.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_article_needs_citations.-2006-08-16T00:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: The article needs citations."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-One_Star_Bandit-2006-08-16T00:11:00.000Z-The_article_needs_citations."></span>There are none, and it needs some.<a href="/wiki/User:One_Star_Bandit" title="User:One Star Bandit">One Star Bandit</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-One_Star_Bandit-2006-08-16T00:11:00.000Z-The_article_needs_citations." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-One_Star_Bandit-2006-08-16T00:11:00.000Z-The_article_needs_citations."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-One_Star_Bandit-2006-08-16T00:11:00.000Z-The_article_needs_citations."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheInvisMan-2006-11-17T13:42:00.000Z-One_Star_Bandit-2006-08-16T00:11:00.000Z"></span>I added a few - for the "citation needed" and then some.</dd> <dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TheInvisMan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TheInvisMan (page does not exist)">TheInvisMan</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-TheInvisMan-2006-11-17T13:42:00.000Z-One_Star_Bandit-2006-08-16T00:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:42, 17 November 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheInvisMan-2006-11-17T13:42:00.000Z-One_Star_Bandit-2006-08-16T00:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheInvisMan-2006-11-17T13:42:00.000Z-One_Star_Bandit-2006-08-16T00:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Former_Editor_Updating" data-mw-thread-id="h-Former_Editor_Updating-2006-12-06T03:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Former_Editor_Updating-2006-12-06T03:49:00.000Z"></span>Former Editor Updating<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Former_Editor_Updating-2006-12-06T03:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Former Editor Updating"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ViolentLee-2006-12-06T03:49:00.000Z-Former_Editor_Updating"></span>Hey, guys. I recently stumbled across this page. As a former editor at Game Informer (and employee of Funcoland), my obsessive nature spurred me to tweak a few things and expand on several others. I may continue with more insights/additions, or I may just leave it as is. </p><p>I see a lot of baseless opinions either included, or at war to be included. Why not just stick with the facts? There's plenty of things that could be added instead: games receiving 10s, the tenure of current editors, a bit on Game Infarcer, etc. Thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ViolentLee&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ViolentLee (page does not exist)">ViolentLee</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-ViolentLee-2006-12-06T03:49:00.000Z-Former_Editor_Updating" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ViolentLee-2006-12-06T03:49:00.000Z-Former_Editor_Updating"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ViolentLee-2006-12-06T03:49:00.000Z-Former_Editor_Updating"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-13T22:25:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2006-12-06T03:49:00.000Z"></span>Baseless opinions? Like what? - <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">A Link to the Past</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-13T22:25:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2006-12-06T03:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-13T22:25:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2006-12-06T03:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-13T22:25:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2006-12-06T03:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-14T01:05:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-13T22:25:00.000Z"></span>Baseless opinions like how everyone is in an uproar because they gave Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door a mediocre score and people think it is one of the greatest Mario games ever. Oh, and someone should post all the games that have ever recieved 10's and maybe the Bottom 10 (the 10 games that have gotten the worst scores in the history of the magazine). <dl><dd>Baseless opinions? We KNOW that there was controversy over the score. No one said in the article that TTYD was the greatest Mario game ever. The TTYD situation was solely about how the reviewer told everyone that he scored the game inappropriately to appeal to the gamers instead of give it a proper score. - <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">A Link to the Past</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-14T01:05:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-13T22:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-14T01:05:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-13T22:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-14T01:05:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-13T22:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-16T20:40:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-13T22:25:00.000Z"></span>I was speaking more about the opinions that Game Informer reported incorrect information, or how they didn't have credibility until recent years. Stuff like that, which has not been proven, has no place in what is supposed to be a page of facts. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ViolentLee&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ViolentLee (page does not exist)">ViolentLee</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-ViolentLee-2007-01-16T20:40:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-13T22:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 16 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-16T20:40:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-13T22:25:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-16T20:40:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-13T22:25:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-16T21:06:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-16T20:40:00.000Z"></span>Well, just so you know, it's bad form for an editor or former editor of a magazine to contribute to the edits of the article (as you may be biased one way or the other). However, that would only deal with POV, and only if you're being bold about it. - <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">A Link to the Past</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-16T21:06:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-16T20:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-16T21:06:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-16T20:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-16T21:06:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-16T20:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-24T23:15:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-16T21:06:00.000Z"></span>I have only updated facts here -- and added some things the normal reader may not know about. Y'know, cuz I was there and stuff. I'm not here to dish out opinions; unlike some people who tried editing this page, I know Wikipedia is not the place for subjective entries. If you think it's bad form for me to add a few things to here, that's your problem not mine. Check my contributions; I'm sure you'll see it's all kosher. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ViolentLee&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ViolentLee (page does not exist)">ViolentLee</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-ViolentLee-2007-01-24T23:15:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-16T21:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:15, 24 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-24T23:15:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-16T21:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-24T23:15:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-16T21:06:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflicts_of_interest" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Conflicts of interest"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-25T00:05:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-24T23:15:00.000Z"></span>Ahem.</a> - <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">A Link to the Past</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-25T00:05:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-24T23:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:05, 25 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-25T00:05:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-24T23:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-25T00:05:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-24T23:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-26T18:33:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-25T00:05:00.000Z"></span>Copout. I neither work there now, nor am I affiliated with a competitor. Not letting people who actually KNOW a subject edit the page is why there are so many factual inaccuracies on Wikipedia pages (for example, my pro wrestler friends' ages and real names being wrong). Again, prove that I was anything other than totally accurate in anything I wrote. Ya can't do it, cowboy. You could've been spending your time actually updating the page with some of my above suggestions. Instead, you'd rather get into a pissing match with someone with an intimate knowledge of the magazine. Golf clap on that one. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ViolentLee&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ViolentLee (page does not exist)">ViolentLee</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-ViolentLee-2007-01-26T18:33:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-25T00:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-26T18:33:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-25T00:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-26T18:33:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-25T00:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-26T18:49:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-26T18:33:00.000Z"></span>You do a great job of making it seem like I care about competing with you. The fact that you were once an editor of the magazine is against guidelines. - <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">A Link to the Past</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-26T18:49:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-26T18:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-26T18:49:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-26T18:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-26T18:49:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-26T18:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T00:40:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-26T18:49:00.000Z"></span>Vague comments like that aren't making me feel any guiltier. In fact, reading the entire page you so kindly linked showed a few interesting notes that support me: <dl><dd>"There is no list of criteria to help editors determine what counts as a conflict of interest. In most cases, the intention of the writer can be deduced from the tone and content of the article. If you do write an article on a little-known subject, or on one in which you are involved in some way, be sure to write in a neutral tone and cite reliable, published sources."</dd></dl></dd> <dd>All my edits were in a neutral tone and cited sources.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>"You may cite your own publications just as you'd cite anyone else's, but make sure your material is relevant and that you're regarded as a reliable source for the purposes of Wikipedia. Be cautious about excessive citation of your own work, which may be seen as promotional or a conflict of interest. When in doubt, discuss on the talk page whether or not your citation is an appropriate one, and defer to the community's opinion."</dd></dl></dd> <dd>I was quite careful, thank you Wikipedia. I was a reliable source because I was there to know how and what things happened. I would never dream of saying either, "Game Informer rules!" or, "Game Informer drools!" I am merely helping to add as much relevant, factual information to the page with ZERO personal slant. I hope I have dissuaded you from further concern. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ViolentLee&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ViolentLee (page does not exist)">ViolentLee</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T00:40:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-26T18:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T00:40:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-26T18:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T00:40:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-26T18:49:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T01:26:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T00:40:00.000Z"></span>Cute. Selectively picking stuff out of the guideline. "In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a clear conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged." Nice that you ignored that. - <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">A Link to the Past</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T01:26:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T00:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T01:26:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T00:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T01:26:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T00:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T10:03:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T01:26:00.000Z"></span>I didn't ignore it; that backs up my case all the more! There is no "clear conflict of interest" here, as I'm a former employee 3 years removed -- I didn't see any mention of past employees -- and living thousands of miles away. Also, I kept the neutral point of view that Wikipedia strives to uphold. But if it makes you feel better, I will consider myself "discouraged" -- by you, O Wise Wiki Watchdog. You'd think someone who spends more time on Wikipedia than most people do at their jobs would bring up better arguments. Or, perhaps they'd actually spend time updating pages instead of getting into pointless debates. This is the equivalent of calling 911 because someone took a penny from the "take-a-penny" tray. I edited a topic I have intimate knowledge of, and did so in a professional manner. You can't prove otherwise, so I'm done listening to your broken record. Do us all a favor and go back to talking about <a href="/wiki/Super_Princess_Peach" title="Super Princess Peach">Super Princess Peach</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ViolentLee&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ViolentLee (page does not exist)">ViolentLee</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T10:03:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T10:03:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T01:26:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T10:03:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T01:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T20:23:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T10:03:00.000Z"></span>Could you come off as more of a complainer than you are now? You seem so horrified that I dare bring up a Wikipedia guideline. If this is how you react towards such a thing, you should not be on Wikipedia. I pointed out a simple guideline - stating that there may be a problem with you editing it because you have a connection to the magazine. And even though I never accused you of violating this policy and even stated that if you do not involve yourself with pov-related disputes or be bold on big things in the article, you should be fine, you take offense and eventually go on a tirade because I hurt your feelings. So, how exactly do children manage to get a job at Game Informer nowadays? - <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">A Link to the Past</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:A_Link_to_the_Past&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:A Link to the Past (page does not exist)">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T20:23:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T10:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 30 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T20:23:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T10:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T20:23:00.000Z-ViolentLee-2007-01-30T10:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Teh_Rote-2008-01-19T17:29:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T20:23:00.000Z"></span>Sometimes, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Ignore_all_rules" title="Wikipedia:Ignore all rules">policies are not set in stone.</a> "A Link to the Past", please consider this before you object so strongly. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Teh_Rote&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Teh Rote (page does not exist)">Teh Rote</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Teh_Rote&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Teh Rote (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Teh_Rote-2008-01-19T17:29:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T20:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:29, 19 January 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Teh_Rote-2008-01-19T17:29:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T20:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Teh_Rote-2008-01-19T17:29:00.000Z-A_Link_to_the_Past-2007-01-30T20:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-71.244.136.209-2009-01-30T22:47:00.000Z-Former_Editor_Updating"></span>A Link To the Past, could you come off as more of a dick than you are now? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.244.136.209" title="Special:Contributions/71.244.136.209">71.244.136.209</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:71.244.136.209&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:71.244.136.209 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-71.244.136.209-2009-01-30T22:47:00.000Z-Former_Editor_Updating" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:47, 30 January 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-71.244.136.209-2009-01-30T22:47:00.000Z-Former_Editor_Updating"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-71.244.136.209-2009-01-30T22:47:00.000Z-Former_Editor_Updating"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alec92-2009-08-04T20:32:00.000Z-Former_Editor_Updating"></span>Wouldn't <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COS">WP:COS</a> apply to this? <a href="/wiki/User:Alec92" title="User:Alec92">Alec92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alec92" title="User talk:Alec92">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Alec92-2009-08-04T20:32:00.000Z-Former_Editor_Updating" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 4 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alec92-2009-08-04T20:32:00.000Z-Former_Editor_Updating"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alec92-2009-08-04T20:32:00.000Z-Former_Editor_Updating"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Game_Informer_back_issues" data-mw-thread-id="h-Game_Informer_back_issues-2007-03-23T00:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Game_Informer_back_issues-2007-03-23T00:21:00.000Z"></span>Game Informer back issues<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Game_Informer_back_issues-2007-03-23T00:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Game Informer back issues"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chevinki-2007-03-23T00:21:00.000Z-Game_Informer_back_issues"></span>I need a bit of a favor. Does anyone have access to back issues of Game Informer? Specifically, the January 2006 issue? I'm trying to whip <a href="/wiki/Radiata_Stories" title="Radiata Stories">Radiata Stories</a> into shape (I know, a long way to go yet) but I threw away my old issues and want a proper citation in the Reception/Criticism section. Any help would be much appreciated. <a href="/wiki/User:Chevinki" title="User:Chevinki">Chevinki</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Chevinki-2007-03-23T00:21:00.000Z-Game_Informer_back_issues" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chevinki-2007-03-23T00:21:00.000Z-Game_Informer_back_issues"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chevinki-2007-03-23T00:21:00.000Z-Game_Informer_back_issues"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chevinki-2007-03-23T06:44:00.000Z-Chevinki-2007-03-23T00:21:00.000Z"></span>Nm. Found where to go. <a href="/wiki/User:Chevinki" title="User:Chevinki">Chevinki</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Chevinki-2007-03-23T06:44:00.000Z-Chevinki-2007-03-23T00:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chevinki-2007-03-23T06:44:00.000Z-Chevinki-2007-03-23T00:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chevinki-2007-03-23T06:44:00.000Z-Chevinki-2007-03-23T00:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:18:00.000Z-Game_Informer_back_issues"></span> There's a number in every issue that you can call to order back issues. It's on the copyright page, real tiny, but there.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.121.36.237" title="Special:Contributions/75.121.36.237">75.121.36.237</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:75.121.36.237" title="User talk:75.121.36.237">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:18:00.000Z-Game_Informer_back_issues" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:18, 28 March 2008 (UTC)</a>Arbiter099<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:18:00.000Z-Game_Informer_back_issues"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:18:00.000Z-Game_Informer_back_issues"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="make_sense_does_not" data-mw-thread-id="h-make_sense_does_not-2007-04-14T23:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-make_sense_does_not-2007-04-14T23:44:00.000Z"></span>make sense does not<span data-mw-comment-end="h-make_sense_does_not-2007-04-14T23:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: make sense does not"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-218.186.9.1-2007-04-14T23:44:00.000Z-make_sense_does_not"></span>this sentance does't make sense (a least to my just-woken-up brain) "Due to this, it is promoted in large part in-store, which has contributed heavily to its large subscription base." <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:218.186.9.1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:218.186.9.1 (page does not exist)">218.186.9.1</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-218.186.9.1-2007-04-14T23:44:00.000Z-make_sense_does_not" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:44, 14 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-218.186.9.1-2007-04-14T23:44:00.000Z-make_sense_does_not"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-218.186.9.1-2007-04-14T23:44:00.000Z-make_sense_does_not"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qz3-2007-05-12T06:08:00.000Z-218.186.9.1-2007-04-14T23:44:00.000Z"></span>Done ∆ <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Qz3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Qz3 (page does not exist)"><span style="color:blue;"><b>Algonquin</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Qz3-2007-05-12T06:08:00.000Z-218.186.9.1-2007-04-14T23:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:08, 12 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qz3-2007-05-12T06:08:00.000Z-218.186.9.1-2007-04-14T23:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qz3-2007-05-12T06:08:00.000Z-218.186.9.1-2007-04-14T23:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Death_of_Paul_Anderson" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Death_of_Paul_Anderson-2007-10-21T00:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Death_of_Paul_Anderson-2007-10-21T00:18:00.000Z"></span>The Death of Paul Anderson<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Death_of_Paul_Anderson-2007-10-21T00:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: The Death of Paul Anderson"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Professional_Gamer-2007-10-21T00:18:00.000Z-The_Death_of_Paul_Anderson"></span>How come no one has ever heard of the news of death of GI-Paul? It should be created. <a href="/wiki/User:Professional_Gamer" title="User:Professional Gamer">Professional Gamer</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Professional_Gamer-2007-10-21T00:18:00.000Z-The_Death_of_Paul_Anderson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:18, 21 October 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Professional_Gamer-2007-10-21T00:18:00.000Z-The_Death_of_Paul_Anderson"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Professional_Gamer-2007-10-21T00:18:00.000Z-The_Death_of_Paul_Anderson"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:19:00.000Z-The_Death_of_Paul_Anderson"></span>There was a memorial page. It said it was from ALS or parkinsons, I'm not sure which. Paul, you'll be missed-RIP.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.121.36.237" title="Special:Contributions/75.121.36.237">75.121.36.237</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:75.121.36.237" title="User talk:75.121.36.237">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:19:00.000Z-The_Death_of_Paul_Anderson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)</a>Arbiter099<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:19:00.000Z-The_Death_of_Paul_Anderson"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:19:00.000Z-The_Death_of_Paul_Anderson"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Game_Informer_Online" data-mw-thread-id="h-Game_Informer_Online-2008-03-21T15:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Game_Informer_Online-2008-03-21T15:38:00.000Z"></span>Game Informer Online<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Game_Informer_Online-2008-03-21T15:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Game Informer Online"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hydrokinetics12-2008-03-21T15:38:00.000Z-Game_Informer_Online"></span>Does anyone know if the reviews published on <i>Game Informer</i> Online are the same as those in the magazine? --<a href="/wiki/User:Hydrokinetics12" title="User:Hydrokinetics12">Hydrokinetics12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hydrokinetics12" title="User talk:Hydrokinetics12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Hydrokinetics12-2008-03-21T15:38:00.000Z-Game_Informer_Online" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hydrokinetics12-2008-03-21T15:38:00.000Z-Game_Informer_Online"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hydrokinetics12-2008-03-21T15:38:00.000Z-Game_Informer_Online"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skgordon-2010-11-02T22:25:00.000Z-Game_Informer_Online"></span>They are. At least the scores are the same </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Skgordon" title="User:Skgordon">Skgordon</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Skgordon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Skgordon (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Skgordon-2010-11-02T22:25:00.000Z-Game_Informer_Online" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 2 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skgordon-2010-11-02T22:25:00.000Z-Game_Informer_Online"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skgordon-2010-11-02T22:25:00.000Z-Game_Informer_Online"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Photiphile" data-mw-thread-id="h-Photiphile-2008-03-28T03:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Photiphile-2008-03-28T03:21:00.000Z"></span>Photiphile<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Photiphile-2008-03-28T03:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Photiphile"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:21:00.000Z-Photiphile"></span>WTF happened to Photiphile:Big pictures with miny previws. It was there one month and then it just disappeared.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.121.36.237" title="Special:Contributions/75.121.36.237">75.121.36.237</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:75.121.36.237" title="User talk:75.121.36.237">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:21:00.000Z-Photiphile" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 28 March 2008 (UTC)</a>Arbiter099<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:21:00.000Z-Photiphile"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-75.121.36.237-2008-03-28T03:21:00.000Z-Photiphile"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Image_change_for_each_month" data-mw-thread-id="h-Image_change_for_each_month-2008-06-08T20:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Image_change_for_each_month-2008-06-08T20:59:00.000Z"></span>Image change for each month<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Image_change_for_each_month-2008-06-08T20:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Image change for each month"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gears_of_War-2008-06-08T20:59:00.000Z-Image_change_for_each_month"></span>The cover issue should be changed every month. That just would seem to make the article much better.<a href="/wiki/User:Gears_of_War" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Gears of War"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; font-size:small; color:red;"><b>Gears</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gears_of_War" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Gears of War"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; font-size:small; color:black;"><b>Of War</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Gears_of_War-2008-06-08T20:59:00.000Z-Image_change_for_each_month" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gears_of_War-2008-06-08T20:59:00.000Z-Image_change_for_each_month"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gears_of_War-2008-06-08T20:59:00.000Z-Image_change_for_each_month"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gears_of_War-2008-07-29T18:08:00.000Z-Gears_of_War-2008-06-08T20:59:00.000Z"></span>Can someone please update the magazine image.<a href="/wiki/User:Gears_of_War" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Gears of War"><span style="font-family:Bauhaus 93; font-size:small; color:#7D0008;"> King</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gears_of_War" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Gears of War"><span style="font-family:Times New Roman; font-size:small; color:#FFBE26;"> <b>Rock</b> </span></a>(<b>Gears of War</b>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Gears_of_War-2008-07-29T18:08:00.000Z-Gears_of_War-2008-06-08T20:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:08, 29 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gears_of_War-2008-07-29T18:08:00.000Z-Gears_of_War-2008-06-08T20:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gears_of_War-2008-07-29T18:08:00.000Z-Gears_of_War-2008-06-08T20:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="GI's_Review_for_MotorStorm:_Pacific_Rift_changes_by_TPD" data-mw-thread-id="h-GI's_Review_for_MotorStorm:_Pacific_Rift_changes_by_TPD-2008-12-11T16:25:00.000Z"><span id="GI.27s_Review_for_MotorStorm:_Pacific_Rift_changes_by_TPD"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-GI's_Review_for_MotorStorm:_Pacific_Rift_changes_by_TPD-2008-12-11T16:25:00.000Z"></span>GI's Review for <a href="/wiki/MotorStorm:_Pacific_Rift" title="MotorStorm: Pacific Rift">MotorStorm: Pacific Rift</a> changes by TPD<span data-mw-comment-end="h-GI's_Review_for_MotorStorm:_Pacific_Rift_changes_by_TPD-2008-12-11T16:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: GI's Review for MotorStorm: Pacific Rift changes by TPD"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.45.182.188-2008-12-11T16:25:00.000Z-GI's_Review_for_MotorStorm:_Pacific_Rift_changes_by_TPD"></span>Here is the main source for the site and knows why: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://forums.gameinformer.com/gi/board/message?board.id=reader_reviews&thread.id=46705">[1]</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.45.182.188" title="Special:Contributions/70.45.182.188">70.45.182.188</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:70.45.182.188" title="User talk:70.45.182.188">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-70.45.182.188-2008-12-11T16:25:00.000Z-GI's_Review_for_MotorStorm:_Pacific_Rift_changes_by_TPD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.45.182.188-2008-12-11T16:25:00.000Z-GI's_Review_for_MotorStorm:_Pacific_Rift_changes_by_TPD"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.45.182.188-2008-12-11T16:25:00.000Z-GI's_Review_for_MotorStorm:_Pacific_Rift_changes_by_TPD"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reviewing_System" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reviewing_System-2009-08-03T16:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reviewing_System-2009-08-03T16:39:00.000Z"></span>Reviewing System<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reviewing_System-2009-08-03T16:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Reviewing System"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alec92-2009-08-03T16:39:00.000Z-Reviewing_System"></span>I noticed while reading the reviewing section that nothing is mentioned about the Second Opinion section of the review, for Example, in the February 2009 Issue, they listed the top 50 games of 2008, and GTA IV got Game of the Year Award, because it got 20/20 (Perfect 10 from the main review, Perfect 10 from the Second Opinion) Whereas Metal Gear Solid 4 got 19.75/20 (10 From Main, 9/75 from the Second Opinion) So I think we should mention the Second Opinion, and then change the list of "Games that received Perfect Tens" so that it only lists games that received 20/20 and then maybe a list of Games that almost got 20/20. There is something similar to this on the Gamespot page. It's just an idea. <a href="/wiki/User:Alec92" title="User:Alec92">Alec92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alec92" title="User talk:Alec92">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Alec92-2009-08-03T16:39:00.000Z-Reviewing_System" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alec92-2009-08-03T16:39:00.000Z-Reviewing_System"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alec92-2009-08-03T16:39:00.000Z-Reviewing_System"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sesu_Prime-2009-08-04T04:09:00.000Z-Alec92-2009-08-03T16:39:00.000Z"></span>I agree we should mention the second opinions, but the twenty-point scale theory is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">original research</a> because GI never said anything about ranking games based on the sum of the two scores. -<a href="/wiki/User:Sesu_Prime" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sesu Prime"><b><span style="color:#0000cd;">sesu</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sesu_Prime" title="User talk:Sesu Prime"><b><span style="color:#b22222;">PRIME</span></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Sesu_Prime-2009-08-04T04:09:00.000Z-Alec92-2009-08-03T16:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sesu_Prime-2009-08-04T04:09:00.000Z-Alec92-2009-08-03T16:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sesu_Prime-2009-08-04T04:09:00.000Z-Alec92-2009-08-03T16:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alec92-2009-08-04T05:00:00.000Z-Reviewing_System"></span>They do when determining the Game of The Year, as pointed out in Issue 191 in the DearGI section, </p> <blockquote> <p><i>Every Year we get a few letters like this, and the explanation is pretty simple. You can stack the numbers however you want, but Grand Theft Auto IV scored a 10 in the main review and a 10 in the second opinion. A the highest scoring game of 2008, it was awarded Game of the Year.</i> - Quote from DearGI section in Issue 191 in regards to "The Numbers Guy" question. </p> </blockquote> <p>But yes, you are correct about them not scoring from the sum of said scores. I understand that if we were to begin listing scores from Game Informer as Primary and Secondary we'd have to overhaul all the review tables that have ever listed Game Informer reviews, I'm not for that, but just so that the casual Wiki User understands how Game Informer reviews games <a href="/wiki/User:Alec92" title="User:Alec92">Alec92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alec92" title="User talk:Alec92">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Alec92-2009-08-04T05:00:00.000Z-Reviewing_System" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alec92-2009-08-04T05:00:00.000Z-Reviewing_System"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alec92-2009-08-04T05:00:00.000Z-Reviewing_System"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sesu_Prime-2009-08-04T05:28:00.000Z-Alec92-2009-08-04T05:00:00.000Z"></span>My mistake; I had forgotten about their response to that letter. -<a href="/wiki/User:Sesu_Prime" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sesu Prime"><b><span style="color:#0000cd;">sesu</span></b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sesu_Prime" title="User talk:Sesu Prime"><b><span style="color:#b22222;">PRIME</span></b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Sesu_Prime-2009-08-04T05:28:00.000Z-Alec92-2009-08-04T05:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sesu_Prime-2009-08-04T05:28:00.000Z-Alec92-2009-08-04T05:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sesu_Prime-2009-08-04T05:28:00.000Z-Alec92-2009-08-04T05:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alec92-2009-08-04T20:17:00.000Z-Sesu_Prime-2009-08-04T05:28:00.000Z"></span>No Problem. <a href="/wiki/User:Alec92" title="User:Alec92">Alec92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alec92" title="User talk:Alec92">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Alec92-2009-08-04T20:17:00.000Z-Sesu_Prime-2009-08-04T05:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alec92-2009-08-04T20:17:00.000Z-Sesu_Prime-2009-08-04T05:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alec92-2009-08-04T20:17:00.000Z-Sesu_Prime-2009-08-04T05:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Advert" data-mw-thread-id="h-Advert-2012-08-21T23:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Advert-2012-08-21T23:26:00.000Z"></span>Advert<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Advert-2012-08-21T23:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Advert"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RockMFR-2012-08-21T23:26:00.000Z-Advert"></span>The lead of this article currently has a list of benefits that subscribers of the magazine receive, and reads as if it was copy/pasted from a press release. The benefits should be briefly summarized in the lead, and possibly explained in more depth in its own section. — <a href="/wiki/User:RockMFR" title="User:RockMFR">RockMFR</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-RockMFR-2012-08-21T23:26:00.000Z-Advert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:26, 21 August 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RockMFR-2012-08-21T23:26:00.000Z-Advert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RockMFR-2012-08-21T23:26:00.000Z-Advert"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Should_we_add_books?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Should_we_add_books?-2012-12-08T23:49:00.000Z"><span id="Should_we_add_books.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Should_we_add_books?-2012-12-08T23:49:00.000Z"></span>Should we add books?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Should_we_add_books?-2012-12-08T23:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Should we add books?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-50.11.77.226-2012-12-08T23:49:00.000Z-Should_we_add_books?"></span>For those who don't know, two Game Informer editors have released books (Kill Screen by Ben Reeves, and Air Force Gator by Dan Ryckert), albeit exclusively on Amazon. I was wondering if we should add them to other media, or do something else with them. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/50.11.77.226" title="Special:Contributions/50.11.77.226">50.11.77.226</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:50.11.77.226&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:50.11.77.226 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-50.11.77.226-2012-12-08T23:49:00.000Z-Should_we_add_books?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:49, 8 December 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-50.11.77.226-2012-12-08T23:49:00.000Z-Should_we_add_books?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-50.11.77.226-2012-12-08T23:49:00.000Z-Should_we_add_books?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ylee-2012-12-09T08:22:00.000Z-50.11.77.226-2012-12-08T23:49:00.000Z"></span>The books aren't connected to <i>Game Informer</i>; their authors happen to work for the magazine, that's all. 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Also, I'm going to manually buy each February (and January when necessary) edition to fill them all, but it's going to take some time. If anyone knows a way to find all the awards with a link, that would be great. I've tried looking and can't find anything. <a href="/wiki/User:PsychoticSpartan123" class="mw-redirect" title="User:PsychoticSpartan123"><span style="color:darkred">Psychotic</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:PsychoticSpartan123" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:PsychoticSpartan123"><span style="color:darkgoldenrod">Spartan</span></a> <span style="background-color:darkred; color:darkgoldenrod;">123</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-PsychoticSpartan123-2017-02-12T14:18:00.000Z-Tables/Games_of_the_Year_Awards" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:18, 12 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PsychoticSpartan123-2017-02-12T14:18:00.000Z-Tables/Games_of_the_Year_Awards"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PsychoticSpartan123-2017-02-12T14:18:00.000Z-Tables/Games_of_the_Year_Awards"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Game_Informer_tables" data-mw-thread-id="h-Game_Informer_tables-2017-08-01T02:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Game_Informer_tables-2017-08-01T02:57:00.000Z"></span>Game Informer tables<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Game_Informer_tables-2017-08-01T02:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Game Informer tables"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Izno-2017-08-01T02:57:00.000Z-Game_Informer_tables"></span>Moved from my talk page: </p> <blockquote> <p>I agree the tables aren't really necessary (and I never got around to finishing them), but I'm not sure what you mean by "missing RS talking about these awards in the third person, so it's WP:WEIGHTy to include them". My question: what does RS mean? <a href="/wiki/User:SpartaN" title="User:SpartaN">SpartaN</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpartaN" title="User talk:SpartaN">talk</a>) 20:51, 6 July 2017 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:SpartaN" title="User:SpartaN">SpartaN</a>:</span> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">Reliable sources</a>. Basically, if some content doesn't have reliable, independent sources talking about it, it probably shouldn't be written about on Wikipedia. --<a href="/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Izno#top" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 21:12, 6 July 2017 (UTC) <dl><dd>You're right. Citing Game Informer about Game Informer is poor sourcing. I feel stupid not being able to deduce "RS" as "reliable sources". Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:SpartaN" title="User:SpartaN">SpartaN</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SpartaN" title="User talk:SpartaN">talk</a>) 21:47, 6 July 2017 (UTC) <dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:SpartaN" title="User:SpartaN">SpartaN</a>:</span> No worries. I've had other, unfortunate, conversations recently. --<a href="/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Izno#top" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) 23:44, 6 July 2017 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </blockquote> <p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Game_Informer#c-Izno-2017-08-01T02:57:00.000Z-Game_Informer_tables" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:57, 1 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Izno-2017-08-01T02:57:00.000Z-Game_Informer_tables"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Izno-2017-08-01T02:57:00.000Z-Game_Informer_tables"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="External_links_modified_4" data-mw-thread-id="h-External_links_modified_4-2017-10-10T14:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-External_links_modified_4-2017-10-10T14:26:00.000Z"></span>External links modified<span data-mw-comment-end="h-External_links_modified_4-2017-10-10T14:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Game_Informer&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: External links modified"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InternetArchiveBot-2017-10-10T14:26:00.000Z-External_links_modified_4"></span>Hello fellow Wikipedians, </p><p>I have just modified one external link on <a href="/wiki/Game_Informer" title="Game Informer">Game Informer</a>. 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