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Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Archived_nominations/Index" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Archived nominations/Index">the nomination archive</a>) and why it was removed.</td></tr><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Good article"><img alt="Good article" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/25px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/38px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/50px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><b>Cat</b> has been listed as one of the <i><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles/Natural_sciences" title="Wikipedia:Good articles/Natural sciences">Natural sciences good articles</a></b></i> under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_criteria" title="Wikipedia:Good article criteria">good article criteria</a>. If you can improve it further, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_bold" title="Wikipedia:Be bold">please do so</a>. <small><i>If it no longer meets these criteria, you can <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_reassessment" title="Wikipedia:Good article reassessment">reassess</a></b> it</i>.</small></td></tr><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2.svg" class="mw-file-description" title="Main Page trophy"><img alt="Main Page trophy" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/80/Wikipedia-logo-v2.svg/30px-Wikipedia-logo-v2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="27" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/80/Wikipedia-logo-v2.svg/45px-Wikipedia-logo-v2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/80/Wikipedia-logo-v2.svg/60px-Wikipedia-logo-v2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="103" data-file-height="94"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/September_5,_2005" title="Wikipedia:Today's featured article/September 5, 2005">Today's featured article</a> on September 5, 2005.</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" style="width:100%"><table class="article-history-milestones mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:100%;font-size:90%"><tbody><tr><th colspan="3" style="font-size:110%"><span style="float:left"></span> Article milestones</th></tr><tr style="text-align:left"><th>Date</th><th>Process</th><th>Result</th></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cat&oldid=7203081">November 2, 2004</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Archived_nominations/November_2004#Cat" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Archived nominations/November 2004">Featured article candidate</a></b></td><td>Not promoted</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cat&oldid=20651462">August 10, 2005</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Cat/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cat/archive1">Featured article candidate</a></b></td><td>Not promoted</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cat&oldid=21387779">August 19, 2005</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Cat/archive2" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cat/archive2">Featured article candidate</a></b></td><td>Promoted</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cat&oldid=40827726">February 23, 2006</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/Cat/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article review/Cat/archive1">Featured article review</a></b></td><td>Kept</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cat&oldid=112213381">March 3, 2007</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/Cat/archive2" title="Wikipedia:Featured article review/Cat/archive2">Featured article review</a></b></td><td>Demoted</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cat&oldid=161381428">October 3, 2007</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Cat" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/Cat">Peer review</a></b></td><td>Reviewed</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cat&oldid=387666118">September 30, 2010</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Talk:Cat/GA1" title="Talk:Cat/GA1">Good article nominee</a></b></td><td>Not listed</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a 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Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination. <p><b>Discussions: </b> </p> <ul><li><b>No consensus</b>, 25 October 2008, from <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cat&redirect=no">Cat</a> to <a href="/wiki/Domestic_cat" class="mw-redirect" title="Domestic cat">Domestic cat</a>, see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Cat/Archive_10#Requested_move" title="Talk:Cat/Archive 10">discussion</a>.</li> <li><b>Not moved</b>, 10 September 2012, from <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cat&redirect=no">Cat</a> to <a href="/wiki/Domestic_cat" class="mw-redirect" title="Domestic cat">Domestic cat</a>, see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Cat/Archive_12#Requested_move" title="Talk:Cat/Archive 12">discussion</a>.</li></ul></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p><p><br/> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Improper_Grammar?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Improper_Grammar?"><span id="Improper_Grammar.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Improper_Grammar?"></span>Improper Grammar?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Improper_Grammar?"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cat&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Improper Grammar?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>This says "it leads to the extinction of bird, mammal, and reptile species". Shouldn't it be THE bird mammal and reptile species? </p> <dl><dd>This term stands for several species of birds, reptiles and mammals. To use "the", one would need to clarify which bird, mammal and reptile species went extinct - obviously, it's not referring to all such species. <a href="/wiki/User:BeforeAdapter" title="User:BeforeAdapter">beforeAdapter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BeforeAdapter" title="User talk:BeforeAdapter">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/beforeAdapter" title="Special:Contributions/beforeAdapter">contribs</a>) 2022-03-20T17:22Z</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Cat"_as_the_main_name" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Cat"_as_the_main_name-20240611051800"><span id=".22Cat.22_as_the_main_name"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Cat"_as_the_main_name-20240611051800"></span>"Cat" as the main name<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Cat"_as_the_main_name-20240611051800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cat&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: "Cat" as the main name"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GogoLion-20240611051800-"Cat"_as_the_main_name"></span>I think it's reversed. Isn't the term “cat” refers to the family “Felidae”? The first paragraph should be “domesticated cat or house cat, commonly known as just 'cat'”. -<a href="/wiki/User:GogoLion" title="User:GogoLion">GogoLion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GogoLion" title="User talk:GogoLion">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-GogoLion-20240611051800-"Cat"_as_the_main_name" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:18, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GogoLion-20240611051800-"Cat"_as_the_main_name"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GogoLion-20240611051800-"Cat"_as_the_main_name"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Traumnovelle-20240611053700-GogoLion-20240611051800"></span>How often do people say 'I have a house cat' instead of 'I have a cat' or 'I pet a domestic cat on my walk today' instead of 'I pet a cat on my walk today'. The term cat when referring to felids is derived from the term cat as in a house cat. <a href="/wiki/User:Traumnovelle" title="User:Traumnovelle">Traumnovelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Traumnovelle" title="User talk:Traumnovelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Traumnovelle-20240611053700-GogoLion-20240611051800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Traumnovelle-20240611053700-GogoLion-20240611051800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Traumnovelle-20240611053700-GogoLion-20240611051800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GogoLion-20240902043200-Traumnovelle-20240611053700"></span>It seems like you didin't read the text completely. Can't you see the word "commonly"? Also, the term "cat" is not exclusively referring the domesticated cat, but the whole felids. You know "floppa"? They are not domesticated cats but still being called "cat". -<a href="/wiki/User:GogoLion" title="User:GogoLion">GogoLion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GogoLion" title="User talk:GogoLion">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-GogoLion-20240902043200-Traumnovelle-20240611053700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GogoLion-20240902043200-Traumnovelle-20240611053700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GogoLion-20240902043200-Traumnovelle-20240611053700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Traumnovelle-20240902053100-GogoLion-20240902043200"></span>The term cat typically refers to domestic cats. I have no idea what a 'floppa' is but cat overwhelmingly refers to a moggy and not other felids. <a href="/wiki/User:Traumnovelle" title="User:Traumnovelle">Traumnovelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Traumnovelle" title="User talk:Traumnovelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Traumnovelle-20240902053100-GogoLion-20240902043200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Traumnovelle-20240902053100-GogoLion-20240902043200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Traumnovelle-20240902053100-GogoLion-20240902043200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tamfang-20240902063100-Traumnovelle-20240902053100"></span>Today I learned that Big Floppa is a caracal with some notoriety. <a href="/wiki/User:Tamfang" title="User:Tamfang">—Tamfang</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tamfang" title="User talk:Tamfang">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Tamfang-20240902063100-Traumnovelle-20240902053100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tamfang-20240902063100-Traumnovelle-20240902053100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tamfang-20240902063100-Traumnovelle-20240902053100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GogoLion-20240906133900-Traumnovelle-20240902053100"></span>"cat overwhelmingly refers to a moggy and not other felids"</dd> <dd>By who? Scientists? Of course they refer it as the whole Felidae. By general public? Of course it refers to small felids, including wild cats if they being petted like house caracal or house serval. -<a href="/wiki/User:GogoLion" title="User:GogoLion">GogoLion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GogoLion" title="User talk:GogoLion">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-GogoLion-20240906133900-Traumnovelle-20240902053100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GogoLion-20240906133900-Traumnovelle-20240902053100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GogoLion-20240906133900-Traumnovelle-20240902053100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Traumnovelle-20241007225400-GogoLion-20240906133900"></span>The general public usually mean a pet cat when they say cat. People don't typically interact with wildcats as much for obvious reasons. <a href="/wiki/User:Traumnovelle" title="User:Traumnovelle">Traumnovelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Traumnovelle" title="User talk:Traumnovelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Traumnovelle-20241007225400-GogoLion-20240906133900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Traumnovelle-20241007225400-GogoLion-20240906133900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Traumnovelle-20241007225400-GogoLion-20240906133900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jts1882-20240611062100-GogoLion-20240611051800"></span>Wikipedia naming policy is to use the common name and cat is used far more frequently that domestic cat. The term isn't ambiguous as, while we use might "cat" when discussing the whole cat family, this meaning would be clear from the context; we wouldn't use cat to refer to all cats without such qualifying context. I don't think house cat should be in that opening sentence as house cat refers to something more specific and excludes many of the species. — <span style="white-space: nowrap;font-family:Arial;background:#d6ffe6;border:solid 1px;border-radius:5px;box-shadow:darkcyan 0px 1px 1px;"> <a href="/wiki/User:Jts1882" title="User:Jts1882">Jts1882</a> |<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jts1882" title="User talk:Jts1882"> talk</a> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Jts1882-20240611062100-GogoLion-20240611051800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jts1882-20240611062100-GogoLion-20240611051800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jts1882-20240611062100-GogoLion-20240611051800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GogoLion-20240902043800-Jts1882-20240611062100"></span>Of course this is ambiguous! People also petting several wild cats like caracal, lynx, and servals, and still being called "cats". They even have different subfamily btw. The first paragraph should be "Domestic cat, commonly known as just "cat", also "house cats"..." -<a href="/wiki/User:GogoLion" title="User:GogoLion">GogoLion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GogoLion" title="User talk:GogoLion">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-GogoLion-20240902043800-Jts1882-20240611062100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:38, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GogoLion-20240902043800-Jts1882-20240611062100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GogoLion-20240902043800-Jts1882-20240611062100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Traumnovelle-20240902053200-GogoLion-20240902043800"></span>And how often is a lynx referred to as a 'cat' instead of as a lynx? <a href="/wiki/User:Traumnovelle" title="User:Traumnovelle">Traumnovelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Traumnovelle" title="User talk:Traumnovelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Traumnovelle-20240902053200-GogoLion-20240902043800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Traumnovelle-20240902053200-GogoLion-20240902043800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Traumnovelle-20240902053200-GogoLion-20240902043800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GogoLion-20240906132700-Traumnovelle-20240902053200"></span>That question sounds weird. First of all, how can i answer that? Counting the Instagram comments one by one? Or giving you screenchot of keyword statistics?</dd> <dd>Second, you seem like never watching lynx pet videos on Instagram or TikTok.</dd> <dd>Oh and one more thing, you know "bobcat"? It's not domestic cat but it's "bobCAT". -<a href="/wiki/User:GogoLion" title="User:GogoLion">GogoLion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GogoLion" title="User talk:GogoLion">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-GogoLion-20240906132700-Traumnovelle-20240902053200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GogoLion-20240906132700-Traumnovelle-20240902053200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GogoLion-20240906132700-Traumnovelle-20240902053200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Traumnovelle-20240906191300-GogoLion-20240906132700"></span>Yes? It's called a bobcat, not a cat. <a href="/wiki/User:Traumnovelle" title="User:Traumnovelle">Traumnovelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Traumnovelle" title="User talk:Traumnovelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Traumnovelle-20240906191300-GogoLion-20240906132700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Traumnovelle-20240906191300-GogoLion-20240906132700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Traumnovelle-20240906191300-GogoLion-20240906132700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BhagyaMani-20240902081500-Jts1882-20240611062100"></span>We had this discussion so often already, and always with the same outcome : that the title should remain as is. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BhagyaMani&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BhagyaMani (page does not exist)">BhagyaMani</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BhagyaMani" title="User talk:BhagyaMani">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-BhagyaMani-20240902081500-Jts1882-20240611062100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BhagyaMani-20240902081500-Jts1882-20240611062100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BhagyaMani-20240902081500-Jts1882-20240611062100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GogoLion-20240906132800-BhagyaMani-20240902081500"></span>I have never say that we should change the title. I say <b>WE SHOULD CHANGE THE FIRST PARAGRAPH</b>. -<a href="/wiki/User:GogoLion" title="User:GogoLion">GogoLion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GogoLion" title="User talk:GogoLion">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-GogoLion-20240906132800-BhagyaMani-20240902081500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:28, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GogoLion-20240906132800-BhagyaMani-20240902081500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GogoLion-20240906132800-BhagyaMani-20240902081500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BhagyaMani-20240906155100-GogoLion-20240906132800"></span>Please read <a href="/wiki/MOS:LEADSENTENCE" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:LEADSENTENCE">MOS:LEADSENTENCE</a> :<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">The page title should be subject of the first sentence.</q> So if you want to use "domestic cat", instead of "cat", then we should also change the page title accordingly. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BhagyaMani&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BhagyaMani (page does not exist)">BhagyaMani</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BhagyaMani" title="User talk:BhagyaMani">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-BhagyaMani-20240906155100-GogoLion-20240906132800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BhagyaMani-20240906155100-GogoLion-20240906132800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BhagyaMani-20240906155100-GogoLion-20240906132800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Misconception?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Misconception?-20240731150400"><span id="Misconception.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Misconception?-20240731150400"></span>Misconception?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Misconception?-20240731150400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cat&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Misconception?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr_swordfish-20240731150400-Misconception?"></span>The following was recently added to the article: </p> <dl><dd>A common misconception is that a cat's behavioral and personality traits correspond to its coat color. These traits instead depend on a complex interplay between genetic and environmental factors.</dd></dl> <p>I'm curious to see what other editors here think about this addition. Seems to me that this ignores the correlation between cat breeds, their coat colors, and their behaviors, but this is not my field of expertise. <a href="/wiki/User:Mr_swordfish" title="User:Mr swordfish">Mr. Swordfish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr_swordfish" title="User talk:Mr swordfish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Mr_swordfish-20240731150400-Misconception?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:04, 31 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr_swordfish-20240731150400-Misconception?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr_swordfish-20240731150400-Misconception?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bon_courage-20240731151900-Mr_swordfish-20240731150400"></span>Well the sourcing is impeccable: <ul><li><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFUdellDelgadoEkenstedtShoveller2023" class="citation journal cs1 cs1-prop-long-vol">Udell, Monique; Delgado, Mikel; Ekenstedt, Kari; Shoveller, Anna Kate; Croney, Candace (2023). "CATastrophic myths part 2: Common misconceptions about the environmental, nutritional, and genetic management of domestic cats and their welfare implications". <i>The Veterinary Journal</i>. 300–302: 106029. <a href="/wiki/Doi_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="Doi (identifier)">doi</a>:<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://doi.org/10.1016%2Fj.tvjl.2023.106029">10.1016/j.tvjl.2023.106029</a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=The+Veterinary+Journal&rft.atitle=CATastrophic+myths+part+2%3A+Common+misconceptions+about+the+environmental%2C+nutritional%2C+and+genetic+management+of+domestic+cats+and+their+welfare+implications&rft.volume=300-302&rft.pages=106029&rft.date=2023&rft_id=info%3Adoi%2F10.1016%2Fj.tvjl.2023.106029&rft.aulast=Udell&rft.aufirst=Monique&rft.au=Delgado%2C+Mikel&rft.au=Ekenstedt%2C+Kari&rft.au=Shoveller%2C+Anna+Kate&rft.au=Croney%2C+Candace&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3ACat" class="Z3988"></span></li></ul></dd> <dd>but this popular misconception seems to have attracted comment in lay media too.<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.cnet.com/science/cat-color-myth-busted-your-orange-tabby-isnt-dumber-than-its-feline-pals/">[1]</a> Note that breed and colour are separate matters. Do you have any counter-sources in mind that say colour and personality traits <i>are</i> linked? <a href="/wiki/User:Bon_courage" title="User:Bon courage">Bon courage</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bon_courage" title="User talk:Bon courage">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Bon_courage-20240731151900-Mr_swordfish-20240731150400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 31 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bon_courage-20240731151900-Mr_swordfish-20240731150400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bon_courage-20240731151900-Mr_swordfish-20240731150400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Traumnovelle-20240731190800-Mr_swordfish-20240731150400"></span>The only evidence of coat colour being linked to behaviour are owner surveys, hardly an infallible method. <a href="/wiki/User:Traumnovelle" title="User:Traumnovelle">Traumnovelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Traumnovelle" title="User talk:Traumnovelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Traumnovelle-20240731190800-Mr_swordfish-20240731150400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 31 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Traumnovelle-20240731190800-Mr_swordfish-20240731150400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Traumnovelle-20240731190800-Mr_swordfish-20240731150400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hunting_behaviour_explanation?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hunting_behaviour_explanation?-20240822144900"><span id="Hunting_behaviour_explanation.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hunting_behaviour_explanation?-20240822144900"></span>Hunting behaviour explanation?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hunting_behaviour_explanation?-20240822144900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cat&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Hunting behaviour explanation?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FloweringOctopus-20240822144900-Hunting_behaviour_explanation?"></span>//This cat and mouse behavior may be due to an instinctive imperative to ensure that the prey is weak enough to be killed without endangering the cat// </p><p>I added the "may" on the basis that interpretations of animal behaviour are always pretty tenuous. But if someone could also check the source is adequate, it would be appreciated. </p><p>The same statement and reference is given on this page <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_and_mouse">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_and_mouse</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:FloweringOctopus" title="User:FloweringOctopus">FloweringOctopus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FloweringOctopus" title="User talk:FloweringOctopus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-FloweringOctopus-20240822144900-Hunting_behaviour_explanation?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:49, 22 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FloweringOctopus-20240822144900-Hunting_behaviour_explanation?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FloweringOctopus-20240822144900-Hunting_behaviour_explanation?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Traumnovelle-20240822195300-FloweringOctopus-20240822144900"></span>I removed it. It's dubious and the Arizona Sun is not suitable for making bold claims on feline behaviour. <a href="/wiki/User:Traumnovelle" title="User:Traumnovelle">Traumnovelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Traumnovelle" title="User talk:Traumnovelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Traumnovelle-20240822195300-FloweringOctopus-20240822144900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 22 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Traumnovelle-20240822195300-FloweringOctopus-20240822144900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Traumnovelle-20240822195300-FloweringOctopus-20240822144900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FloweringOctopus-20240907194600-Traumnovelle-20240822195300"></span>Thanks :-) <a href="/wiki/User:FloweringOctopus" title="User:FloweringOctopus">FloweringOctopus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FloweringOctopus" title="User talk:FloweringOctopus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-FloweringOctopus-20240907194600-Traumnovelle-20240822195300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 7 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FloweringOctopus-20240907194600-Traumnovelle-20240822195300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FloweringOctopus-20240907194600-Traumnovelle-20240822195300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Semi-protected_edit_request_on_29_September_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_29_September_2024-20240929091700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_29_September_2024-20240929091700"></span>Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_29_September_2024-20240929091700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cat&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rogu_Roguu-20240929091700-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_29_September_2024"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Under Characteristics > Whiskers, the citation number isn't correctly formatted. CURRENT: "...to protect the eyes from damage.[53]: 47" This should be changed to; EDIT: "...to protect the eyes from damage.[53][47]" <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Rogu_Roguu&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Rogu Roguu (page does not exist)">Rogu Roguu</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rogu_Roguu&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Rogu Roguu (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Rogu_Roguu-20240929091700-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_29_September_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:17, 29 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rogu_Roguu-20240929091700-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_29_September_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rogu_Roguu-20240929091700-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_29_September_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Traumnovelle-20240929095000-Rogu_Roguu-20240929091700"></span>It is formatted correctly. the ':47' is a reference page, it indicates that the citation for that claim is on page 47 of the prior reference. <a href="/wiki/User:Traumnovelle" title="User:Traumnovelle">Traumnovelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Traumnovelle" title="User talk:Traumnovelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Traumnovelle-20240929095000-Rogu_Roguu-20240929091700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Traumnovelle-20240929095000-Rogu_Roguu-20240929091700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Traumnovelle-20240929095000-Rogu_Roguu-20240929091700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Short_description" data-mw-thread-id="h-Short_description-20241012070000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Short_description-20241012070000"></span>Short description<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Short_description-20241012070000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cat&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Short description"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Traumnovelle-20241012070000-Short_description"></span>A short description here is pointless. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SDPURPOSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SDPURPOSE">WP:SDPURPOSE</a> states it is to either describe or disambiguate, neither are needed here. <a href="/wiki/User:Traumnovelle" title="User:Traumnovelle">Traumnovelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Traumnovelle" title="User talk:Traumnovelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Traumnovelle-20241012070000-Short_description" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:00, 12 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Traumnovelle-20241012070000-Short_description"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Traumnovelle-20241012070000-Short_description"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BhagyaMani-20241012082800-Traumnovelle-20241012070000"></span>I disagree. All the pages on cat + other carnivore species have short descriptions, needed or not. – <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BhagyaMani&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BhagyaMani (page does not exist)">BhagyaMani</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BhagyaMani" title="User talk:BhagyaMani">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-BhagyaMani-20241012082800-Traumnovelle-20241012070000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:28, 12 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BhagyaMani-20241012082800-Traumnovelle-20241012070000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BhagyaMani-20241012082800-Traumnovelle-20241012070000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ca-20241121005400-Traumnovelle-20241012070000"></span>It is disambiguating that this article is about the animal. <a href="/wiki/User:Ca" title="User:Ca">Ca</a> <i><sup style="display:inline-flex;rotate:7deg;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ca" title="User talk:Ca">talk to me!</a></sup></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-Ca-20241121005400-Traumnovelle-20241012070000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ca-20241121005400-Traumnovelle-20241012070000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ca-20241121005400-Traumnovelle-20241012070000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Semi-protected_edit_request_on_23_October_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_23_October_2024-20241023143500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_23_October_2024-20241023143500"></span>Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_23_October_2024-20241023143500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cat&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-78.208.166.195-20241023143500-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_23_October_2024"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>K <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/78.208.166.195" title="Special:Contributions/78.208.166.195">78.208.166.195</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:78.208.166.195&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:78.208.166.195 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-78.208.166.195-20241023143500-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_23_October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-78.208.166.195-20241023143500-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_23_October_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-78.208.166.195-20241023143500-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_23_October_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-OXYLYPSE-20241023144700-78.208.166.195-20241023143500"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/18px-X_mark.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="21" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/27px-X_mark.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/X_mark.svg/36px-X_mark.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="525" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b>Not done</b></span> Unclear. -<a href="/wiki/User:OXYLYPSE" title="User:OXYLYPSE">OXYLYPSE</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:OXYLYPSE" title="User talk:OXYLYPSE">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#c-OXYLYPSE-20241023144700-78.208.166.195-20241023143500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-OXYLYPSE-20241023144700-78.208.166.195-20241023143500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-OXYLYPSE-20241023144700-78.208.166.195-20241023143500"></span></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; 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