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Sections older than <b>90 days</b> may be automatically archived by <span class="nowraplinks"><a href="/wiki/User:Lowercase_sigmabot_III" title="User:Lowercase sigmabot III">Lowercase sigmabot III</a></span> when more than 7 sections are present.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Short_text_is_not_the_same_as_insufficient_notability" data-mw-thread-id="h-Short_text_is_not_the_same_as_insufficient_notability-20240430213600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Short_text_is_not_the_same_as_insufficient_notability-20240430213600"></span>Short text is not the same as insufficient notability<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Short_text_is_not_the_same_as_insufficient_notability-20240430213600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Merging&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Short text is not the same as insufficient notability"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ahecht-20240430213600-Short_text_is_not_the_same_as_insufficient_notability"></span>The description for short text gives an example of a person who is not independently notable, but this seems like a poor example as you could have a notable topics where not much can be said about it, but it could easily be a subtopic of a broader article, and you could potentially write a lot of text about a non-notable person. Should this reason be split into two: <b>Short text</b> and <b>Insufficient notability</b>? --<a href="/wiki/User:Ahecht" title="User:Ahecht">Ahecht</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ahecht" title="User talk:Ahecht"><span style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:-.3em;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br/>PAGE</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Ahecht-20240430213600-Short_text_is_not_the_same_as_insufficient_notability" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 30 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ahecht-20240430213600-Short_text_is_not_the_same_as_insufficient_notability"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ahecht-20240430213600-Short_text_is_not_the_same_as_insufficient_notability"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Klbrain-20240505085900-Ahecht-20240430213600"></span>You're absolutely right; there are two separate point here: <b>Short text</b> and <b>Insufficient notability</b>. I agree that the <i>short text</i> example should include an example where the subject is notable. For example, there's a current proposal to merge a series of cars, the <a href="/wiki/Dallara_F308" class="mw-redirect" title="Dallara F308">Dallara F308</a>, <a href="/wiki/Dallara_F312" class="mw-redirect" title="Dallara F312">Dallara F312</a> and <a href="/wiki/Dallara_F317" class="mw-redirect" title="Dallara F317">Dallara F317</a> into one page for the series (short text and context); each might meet notability if independently assessed. So, we could give an examples such as "merging a series of race cars with a shared developmental history into one page for the series".</dd> <dd>For the <b>insufficient notability</b> notability criterion, this is already policy through the AfD proposal route, many of which end with an AfD-merge outcome as an <i>alternative to deletion</i> (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DISCUSSAFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DISCUSSAFD">WP:DISCUSSAFD</a>). We already have many editors using AfD as a surrogate for getting a merge done, and it would be procedurally simpler if they could do this directly through a merge proposal with greater policy support form this project. <a href="/wiki/User:Klbrain" title="User:Klbrain">Klbrain</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Klbrain" title="User talk:Klbrain">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Klbrain-20240505085900-Ahecht-20240430213600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:59, 5 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Klbrain-20240505085900-Ahecht-20240430213600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Klbrain-20240505085900-Ahecht-20240430213600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WhatamIdoing-20240615011400-Klbrain-20240505085900"></span>I think this is a good idea. @<a href="/wiki/User:Klbrain" title="User:Klbrain">Klbrain</a>, would you implement it? <a href="/wiki/User:WhatamIdoing" title="User:WhatamIdoing">WhatamIdoing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WhatamIdoing" title="User talk:WhatamIdoing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-WhatamIdoing-20240615011400-Klbrain-20240505085900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:14, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhatamIdoing-20240615011400-Klbrain-20240505085900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhatamIdoing-20240615011400-Klbrain-20240505085900"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-189.216.28.204-20240615043500-Ahecht-20240430213600"></span>Texto corto: Se refiere a la longitud del texto. Un texto corto es pequeño, especialmente en cuanto a la longitud, duración o extensión1. No necesariamente implica una falta de contenido o calidad, sino simplemente que es breve.</dd> <dd>Notabilidad insuficiente: Esto se refiere a la calidad del contenido y su relevancia. Un contenido con notabilidad insuficiente es aquel que no cumple con los criterios necesarios para ser considerado significativo o relevante dentro de su contexto1. No tiene que ver con la longitud del texto, sino con su importancia o impacto.</dd> <dd>Es importante destacar que un texto puede ser corto y aún así tener notabilidad, mientras que un texto largo podría carecer de notabilidad si su contenido no es relevante o significativo. La clave está en el valor del contenido más que en su extensión. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/189.216.28.204" title="Special:Contributions/189.216.28.204">189.216.28.204</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:189.216.28.204&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:189.216.28.204 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-189.216.28.204-20240615043500-Ahecht-20240430213600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:35, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-189.216.28.204-20240615043500-Ahecht-20240430213600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-189.216.28.204-20240615043500-Ahecht-20240430213600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Klbrain-20240615055800-189.216.28.204-20240615043500"></span>Thank you for the suggested Spanish text that might work in translation. <a href="/wiki/User:Klbrain" title="User:Klbrain">Klbrain</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Klbrain" title="User talk:Klbrain">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Klbrain-20240615055800-189.216.28.204-20240615043500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Klbrain-20240615055800-189.216.28.204-20240615043500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Klbrain-20240615055800-189.216.28.204-20240615043500"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Klbrain-20240615062200-Ahecht-20240430213600"></span>I've added this as the new 4th criterion, splitting the former 3rd. <a href="/wiki/User:Klbrain" title="User:Klbrain">Klbrain</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Klbrain" title="User talk:Klbrain">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Klbrain-20240615062200-Ahecht-20240430213600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:22, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Klbrain-20240615062200-Ahecht-20240430213600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Klbrain-20240615062200-Ahecht-20240430213600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AfD-merge_to" data-mw-thread-id="h-AfD-merge_to-20240606100900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AfD-merge_to-20240606100900"></span>AfD-merge to<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AfD-merge_to-20240606100900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Merging&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: AfD-merge to"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Template:Afd-merge_to" title="Template:Afd-merge to"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20240606100900-AfD-merge_to"></span>Template:Afd-merge to</a> states it will be replaced by a bot when the merge is complete. This is not covered in our instructions here, which state to handle all the tags manually. Can this exception be added with its relevant instructions? <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Chipmunkdavis-20240606100900-AfD-merge_to" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 6 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20240606100900-AfD-merge_to"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chipmunkdavis-20240606100900-AfD-merge_to"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Klbrain-20240608061700-Chipmunkdavis-20240606100900"></span>Agree. Perhaps a subsection explaining this case be added to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Merging#How_to_merge" title="Wikipedia:Merging">Wikipedia:Merging#How to merge</a> explaining how the process differs in this case. <a href="/wiki/User:Klbrain" title="User:Klbrain">Klbrain</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Klbrain" title="User talk:Klbrain">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Klbrain-20240608061700-Chipmunkdavis-20240606100900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Klbrain-20240608061700-Chipmunkdavis-20240606100900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Klbrain-20240608061700-Chipmunkdavis-20240606100900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20240722110300-Klbrain-20240608061700"></span>I am thinking an addition to bullet 4 saying something like "Do not add a merge template to the destination talkpage if the merger is the result of an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AfD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AfD">WP:AfD</a> discussion, and <a href="/wiki/Template:Afd-merge_from" title="Template:Afd-merge from">Template:Afd-merge from</a> has already been placed on the destination talkpage." <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Chipmunkdavis-20240722110300-Klbrain-20240608061700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20240722110300-Klbrain-20240608061700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chipmunkdavis-20240722110300-Klbrain-20240608061700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Penultimate_supper-20241028003300-Chipmunkdavis-20240722110300"></span>I'm still a bit confused about this, and I think I've been doing it wrong. Is what @<a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> the total answer, we should neither delete the existing <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Afd-merge_from" title="Template:Afd-merge from">Afd-merge from</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> or <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Afd-merge_to" title="Template:Afd-merge to">Afd-merge to</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> templates, nor add <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Merged-from" title="Template:Merged-from">Merged-from</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> or <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Merged-to" title="Template:Merged-to">Merged-to</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>,and let automated bots handle everything after completing the merger? If so, I can try and add something clarifying, but I want to be sure I'm understanding correctly first, since following the current instructions I think I've been messing up. If someone who understands the process better wants to instead of me, I think it'd be a helpful addition.—<a href="/wiki/User:Penultimate_supper" title="User:Penultimate supper"><em style="color: #66209F;">penultimate_supper</em></a> 🚀 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Penultimate_supper" title="User talk:Penultimate supper">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Penultimate_supper" title="Special:Contributions/Penultimate supper">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Penultimate_supper-20241028003300-Chipmunkdavis-20240722110300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Penultimate_supper-20241028003300-Chipmunkdavis-20240722110300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Penultimate_supper-20241028003300-Chipmunkdavis-20240722110300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20241120115200-Penultimate_supper-20241028003300"></span>Well I've added the above note, hopefully that can be a helpful start to clarifying this. <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Chipmunkdavis-20241120115200-Penultimate_supper-20241028003300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20241120115200-Penultimate_supper-20241028003300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chipmunkdavis-20241120115200-Penultimate_supper-20241028003300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Earlier_into_later?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Earlier_into_later?-20240713175400"><span id="Earlier_into_later.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Earlier_into_later?-20240713175400"></span>Earlier into later?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Earlier_into_later?-20240713175400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Merging&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Earlier into later?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vice_regent-20240713175400-Earlier_into_later?"></span>When merging, is it a rule that the article created earlier should stand and the later created article be redirected into later? Or it doesn't matter? I'd support the above rule to avoid disputes, but I can't find it anywhere. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Selfstudier" title="User:Selfstudier">Selfstudier</a>:</span>. <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vice_regent" title="User talk:Vice regent">VR</a></b> <sub>(Please <a href="/wiki/Template:Ping" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ping">ping</a> on reply)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Vice_regent-20240713175400-Earlier_into_later?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 13 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vice_regent-20240713175400-Earlier_into_later?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vice_regent-20240713175400-Earlier_into_later?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Selfstudier-20240713175900-Vice_regent-20240713175400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Vice_regent" title="User:Vice regent">Vice regent</a>:</span> In Nuseirat case, there are currently two articles, one about the rescue and one about the attendant massacre. Lots of back and forth on that one but no final resolution as yet. If the two articles are about the same thing then yes, later into earlier but they should clearly be about the same thing so that the later is in effect a fork. <a href="/wiki/User:Selfstudier" title="User:Selfstudier">Selfstudier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Selfstudier" title="User talk:Selfstudier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Selfstudier-20240713175900-Vice_regent-20240713175400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Selfstudier-20240713175900-Vice_regent-20240713175400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Selfstudier-20240713175900-Vice_regent-20240713175400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BilledMammal-20240713184200-Vice_regent-20240713175400"></span>Yes; see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:REDUNDANTFORK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:REDUNDANTFORK">WP:REDUNDANTFORK</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BilledMammal&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BilledMammal (page does not exist)">BilledMammal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BilledMammal" title="User talk:BilledMammal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-BilledMammal-20240713184200-Vice_regent-20240713175400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 13 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BilledMammal-20240713184200-Vice_regent-20240713175400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BilledMammal-20240713184200-Vice_regent-20240713175400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vice_regent-20240713190800-BilledMammal-20240713184200"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BilledMammal&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BilledMammal (page does not exist)">BilledMammal</a> thanks! <b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vice_regent" title="User talk:Vice regent">VR</a></b> <sub>(Please <a href="/wiki/Template:Ping" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ping">ping</a> on reply)</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Vice_regent-20240713190800-BilledMammal-20240713184200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 13 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vice_regent-20240713190800-BilledMammal-20240713184200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vice_regent-20240713190800-BilledMammal-20240713184200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Best_option_for_merging_two_articles_into_a_new_(third)_title?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Best_option_for_merging_two_articles_into_a_new_(third)_title?-20240715192200"><span id="Best_option_for_merging_two_articles_into_a_new_.28third.29_title.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Best_option_for_merging_two_articles_into_a_new_(third)_title?-20240715192200"></span>Best option for merging two articles into a new (third) title?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Best_option_for_merging_two_articles_into_a_new_(third)_title?-20240715192200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Merging&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Best option for merging two articles into a new (third) title?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-R_Prazeres-20240715192200-Best_option_for_merging_two_articles_into_a_new_(third)_title?"></span>Hi all, seeking clarification on the best or normal practice for merging two articles into a completely new title. Should we: </p> <ol><li>Create a third article with the new title and copy content from the older two articles into it.</li> <li>Pick one of the existing two articles (e.g. maybe the older or more visited one), merge the other article into it, and then <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Moving_a_page" title="Wikipedia:Moving a page">move</a> the merged topic to the new title.</li></ol> <p>I hope the question is clear. If helpful, the context is <a href="/wiki/Talk:Caliphate_of_C%C3%B3rdoba#Proposing_merger_on_Umayyad_Cordoba_articles" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Caliphate of Córdoba">this discussion</a> (where neither of the two articles is the primary or more general topic, so there's no obvious direction to merge into and the merged topic would need a new title either way). Thank you for any advice, <a href="/wiki/User:R_Prazeres" title="User:R Prazeres">R Prazeres</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:R_Prazeres" title="User talk:R Prazeres">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-R_Prazeres-20240715192200-Best_option_for_merging_two_articles_into_a_new_(third)_title?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-R_Prazeres-20240715192200-Best_option_for_merging_two_articles_into_a_new_(third)_title?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-R_Prazeres-20240715192200-Best_option_for_merging_two_articles_into_a_new_(third)_title?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ahecht-20240715192700-R_Prazeres-20240715192200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:R_Prazeres" title="User:R Prazeres">R Prazeres</a> I would copy content from <a href="/wiki/Emirate_of_C%C3%B3rdoba" class="mw-redirect" title="Emirate of Córdoba">Emirate of Córdoba</a> into <a href="/wiki/Caliphate_of_C%C3%B3rdoba" class="mw-redirect" title="Caliphate of Córdoba">Caliphate of Córdoba</a>, since the latter has significantly more edit history (292 edits dating back to 2006 vs 973 edits dating back to 2004). <span class="nowrap">--<a href="/wiki/User:Ahecht" title="User:Ahecht">Ahecht</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ahecht" title="User talk:Ahecht"><b style="color:#FFF;background:#04A;display:inline-block;padding:1px;vertical-align:middle;font:bold 50%/1 sans-serif;text-align:center">TALK<br/>PAGE</b></a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Ahecht-20240715192700-R_Prazeres-20240715192200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ahecht-20240715192700-R_Prazeres-20240715192200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ahecht-20240715192700-R_Prazeres-20240715192200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-R_Prazeres-20240715193300-Ahecht-20240715192700"></span>Great, thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:R_Prazeres" title="User:R Prazeres">R Prazeres</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:R_Prazeres" title="User talk:R Prazeres">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-R_Prazeres-20240715193300-Ahecht-20240715192700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 15 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-R_Prazeres-20240715193300-Ahecht-20240715192700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-R_Prazeres-20240715193300-Ahecht-20240715192700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Citation_errors_popping_up_after_merging_text" data-mw-thread-id="h-Citation_errors_popping_up_after_merging_text-20240725174400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Citation_errors_popping_up_after_merging_text-20240725174400"></span>Citation errors popping up after merging text<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Citation_errors_popping_up_after_merging_text-20240725174400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Merging&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Citation errors popping up after merging text"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Solitaire_Wanderer-20240725174400-Citation_errors_popping_up_after_merging_text"></span>Could I have some help fixing a series of citation errors that are popping up while merging items from the <a href="/wiki/Emirate_of_C%C3%B3rdoba" class="mw-redirect" title="Emirate of Córdoba">Emirate of Córdoba</a> page onto the <a href="/wiki/Caliphate_of_C%C3%B3rdoba" class="mw-redirect" title="Caliphate of Córdoba">Caliphate of Córdoba</a> page? This is the same merging referenced in the discussion above. These have cropt up when I've moved certain sections over. I didn't want to leave all the errors up on the page for later, so I undid the edits. As far as I understand, it's because sources are duplicated or mentioned again. <a href="/wiki/Help:Cite_errors/Cite_error_group_refs_without_references" title="Help:Cite errors/Cite error group refs without references">Help:Cite errors/Cite error group refs without references</a> hasn't been too clear to me as to how I can fix this. Though I have a vague idea what I'm supposed to do. If this is not the right page for this question, where should I go? <a href="/wiki/User:Solitaire_Wanderer" title="User:Solitaire Wanderer">Solitaire Wanderer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Solitaire_Wanderer" title="User talk:Solitaire Wanderer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Solitaire_Wanderer-20240725174400-Citation_errors_popping_up_after_merging_text" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Solitaire_Wanderer-20240725174400-Citation_errors_popping_up_after_merging_text"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Solitaire_Wanderer-20240725174400-Citation_errors_popping_up_after_merging_text"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Solitaire_Wanderer-20240725231000-Solitaire_Wanderer-20240725174400"></span>Nevermind, the issue was figured out a while ago. If you see this, ignore this. I shouldn't need any help whatsoever! <a href="/wiki/User:Solitaire_Wanderer" title="User:Solitaire Wanderer">Solitaire Wanderer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Solitaire_Wanderer" title="User talk:Solitaire Wanderer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Solitaire_Wanderer-20240725231000-Solitaire_Wanderer-20240725174400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 25 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Solitaire_Wanderer-20240725231000-Solitaire_Wanderer-20240725174400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Solitaire_Wanderer-20240725231000-Solitaire_Wanderer-20240725174400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Any_rules_of_thumb?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Any_rules_of_thumb?-20240808093000"><span id="Any_rules_of_thumb.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Any_rules_of_thumb?-20240808093000"></span>Any rules of thumb?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Any_rules_of_thumb?-20240808093000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Merging&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Any rules of thumb?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TrueNeutral879&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TrueNeutral879 (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bookku-20240808093000-Any_rules_of_thumb?"></span>User:TrueNeutral879</a>'s question is in context of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLANKANDREDIRECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLANKANDREDIRECT">WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MERGE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MERGE">WP:MERGE</a>. </p><p>This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MERGE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MERGE">WP:MERGE</a> article says: </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>".. Any editor can perform a merge. No permission or discussion is needed if you think the merge is uncontroversial; just do it (but it might get reverted). Otherwise, the merge should be first proposed and discussed, as detailed below. .."</p></blockquote> <p>In <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#Xenophobia_in_Malaysia" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">this WP:Teahouse</a> discussion, TrueNeutral879 asked following question regarding an unsatisfactory status article. </p><p>(The unsatisfactory status article context specific inputs have been shared and Teahouse discussion is almost over.) </p><p>But seems to have scope for further discussion regarding TrueNeutral879's question : "<u>are there any rules of thumb on what changes I can just make vs. what I should discuss first?</u>" </p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237805129"><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>".. Sticking to the policy questions, rather than the substance - are there any rules of thumb on what changes I can just make (subject to discussing if someone expresses a difference of opinion) vs. what I should discuss first? .."</p></blockquote> <p>As stated in the beginning above question is in context of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLANKANDREDIRECT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLANKANDREDIRECT">WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MERGE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MERGE">WP:MERGE</a>. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Bookku" title="User:Bookku"> Bookku </a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bookku" title="User talk:Bookku">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Bookku-20240808093000-Any_rules_of_thumb?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:30, 8 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bookku-20240808093000-Any_rules_of_thumb?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bookku-20240808093000-Any_rules_of_thumb?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TrueNeutral879-20240808115100-Bookku-20240808093000"></span>I think those policies answer my question, and I'm just getting used to the general idea that anyone can just make changes without editorial approval. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TrueNeutral879&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TrueNeutral879 (page does not exist)">TrueNeutral879</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TrueNeutral879" title="User talk:TrueNeutral879">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-TrueNeutral879-20240808115100-Bookku-20240808093000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TrueNeutral879-20240808115100-Bookku-20240808093000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TrueNeutral879-20240808115100-Bookku-20240808093000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bookku-20240808122200-TrueNeutral879-20240808115100"></span>I know, and already I stated above that Teahouse inputs are enough for your given purposes and this discussion does not intend to affect your decisions or activity - which are supposed to follow as per existent guidelines and policies- at this moment over there.</dd> <dd><u>Purpose</u> of initiating this discussion <u>to have inputs from users experienced in merging issues</u> for more <u>clarity in over all outlook</u> and <u> improvement in user guidance</u> in <u>long term future.</u> <a href="/wiki/User:Bookku" title="User:Bookku"> Bookku </a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bookku" title="User talk:Bookku">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Bookku-20240808122200-TrueNeutral879-20240808115100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bookku-20240808122200-TrueNeutral879-20240808115100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bookku-20240808122200-TrueNeutral879-20240808115100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="clarification" data-mw-thread-id="h-clarification-20240814143100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-clarification-20240814143100"></span>clarification<span data-mw-comment-end="h-clarification-20240814143100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Merging&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: clarification"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fourthords-20240814143100-clarification"></span>I <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Merge&diff=prev&oldid=1237862072">previously asked the same thing</a> at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Merge" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Merge">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Merge</a>, but it's pretty quiet over there: </p><p>It seems to me, the purpose of <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Afd-merged-from" title="Template:Afd-merged-from">afd-merged-from</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> is licensing-required attribution of merged content. Is that correct? If then, an AFD was closed as a merger decision, but in the end, nothing was actually merged but the page instead merely redirected, is that template still the appropriate one to use? — <b><a href="/wiki/User:Fourthords" title="User:Fourthords"><span style="color:#c00">Fourthords</span></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fourthords" title="User talk:Fourthords">=Λ=</a> |</b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-Fourthords-20240814143100-clarification" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fourthords-20240814143100-clarification"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fourthords-20240814143100-clarification"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BangladeshiEditorInSylhet-20241015123600-Fourthords-20240814143100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Fourthords" title="User:Fourthords">Fourthords</a> Oh. <a href="/wiki/User:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet" title="User:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet">BangladeshiEditorInSylhet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet" title="User talk:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-BangladeshiEditorInSylhet-20241015123600-Fourthords-20240814143100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:36, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BangladeshiEditorInSylhet-20241015123600-Fourthords-20240814143100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BangladeshiEditorInSylhet-20241015123600-Fourthords-20240814143100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BangladeshiEditorInSylhet-20241015123600-Fourthords-20240814143100-1"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Fourthords" title="User:Fourthords">Fourthords</a> I probably need to begin researching about that. <a href="/wiki/User:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet" title="User:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet">BangladeshiEditorInSylhet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet" title="User talk:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Merging#c-BangladeshiEditorInSylhet-20241015123600-Fourthords-20240814143100-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:36, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BangladeshiEditorInSylhet-20241015123600-Fourthords-20240814143100-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BangladeshiEditorInSylhet-20241015123600-Fourthords-20240814143100-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fourthords-20241015134600-BangladeshiEditorInSylhet-20241015123600"></span>10-4; I'll keep watching. 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