Are UFOs real? And 'The Sexiest Man Alive' : It's Been a Minute : NPR

<!doctype html><html class="no-js" lang="en"><head> <script type="text/javascript" src="https://cdn.cookielaw.org/consent/82089dfe-410c-4e1b-a7f9-698174b62a86/OtAutoBlock.js" ></script> <script src="https://cdn.cookielaw.org/scripttemplates/otSDKStub.js" type="text/javascript" charset="UTF-8" data-domain-script="82089dfe-410c-4e1b-a7f9-698174b62a86" ></script> <script type="text/javascript"> function OptanonWrapper() { NPR_OptanonWrapper = true; document.dispatchEvent(new CustomEvent('npr:DataConsentAvailable')); OneTrust.OnConsentChanged(function() { document.dispatchEvent(new CustomEvent('npr:DataConsentChanged')); }); } </script>  <script src="https://cdn.cookielaw.org/opt-out/otCCPAiab.js" type="text/javascript" charset="UTF-8" ccpa-opt-out-ids="C0004" ccpa-opt-out-geo="us" ccpa-opt-out-lspa="false"></script><script type="text/plain" class="optanon-category-C0004"> document.cookie = "__adblocker=; expires=Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 GMT; path=/"; var setNptTechAdblockerCookie = function(adblocker) { var d = new Date(); d.setTime(d.getTime() + 60 * 5 * 1000); document.cookie = "__adblocker=" + (adblocker ? "true" : "false") + "; expires=" + d.toUTCString() + "; path=/"; }; var script = document.createElement("script"); script.setAttribute("async", true); script.setAttribute("src", "//www.npttech.com/advertising.js"); script.setAttribute("onerror", "setNptTechAdblockerCookie(true);"); document.getElementsByTagName("head")[0].appendChild(script); </script><script type='text/javascript'> !function(a9,a,p,s,t,A,g){if(a[a9])return;function q(c,r){a[a9]._Q.push([c,r])}a[a9]={init:function(){q("i",arguments)},fetchBids:function(){q("f",arguments)},setDisplayBids:function(){},targetingKeys:function(){return[]},_Q:[]};A=p.createElement(s);A.async=!0;A.src=t;g=p.getElementsByTagName(s)[0];g.parentNode.insertBefore(A,g)}("apstag",window,document,"script","//c.amazon-adsystem.com/aax2/apstag.js"); </script><script> (function (e, o, n, i) { if (!e) { e = e || {}, window.permutive = e, e.q = []; var t = function () { return ([1e7] + -1e3 + -4e3 + -8e3 + -1e11).replace(/[018]/g, function (e) { return (e ^ (window.crypto || window.msCrypto).getRandomValues(new Uint8Array(1))[0] & 15 >> e / 4).toString(16) }) }; e.config = i || {}, e.config.apiKey = o, e.config.workspaceId = n, e.config.environment = e.config.environment || "production", (window.crypto || window.msCrypto) && (e.config.viewId = t()); for (var g = ["addon", "identify", "track", "trigger", "query", "segment", "segments", "ready", "on", "once", "user", "consent"], r = 0; r < g.length; r++) { var w = g[r]; e[w] = function (o) { return function () { var n = Array.prototype.slice.call(arguments, 0); e.q.push({functionName: o, arguments: n}) }; }(w); } } })(window.permutive, "12730e07-f09d-4a69-93da-99b43983b663", "e1cef1f0-495f-4973-ba1c-880786e73a66", {"consentRequired": true}); </script>  <script>dataLayer = [];</script>  <script>(function(w,d,s,l,i){w[l]=w[l]||[];w[l].push({'gtm.start':new Date().getTime(),event:'gtm.js'});var f=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],j=d.createElement(s),dl=l!='dataLayer'?'&l='+l:'';j.setAttributeNode(d.createAttribute('data-ot-ignore'));j.async=true;j.src='https://www.googletagmanager.com/gtm.js?id='+i+dl;f.parentNode.insertBefore(j,f);})(window,document,'script','dataLayer', 'GTM-MVD397M');</script>  <script> try {var _sf_startpt=(new Date()).getTime();} catch(e){} </script> <meta itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/SpeakableSpecification" itemref="speakable" /><title>Are UFOs real? And 'The Sexiest Man Alive' : It's Been a Minute : NPR</title><meta id="speakable" itemprop="cssSelector" content="[data-is-speakable]" /><meta id="google-site-verification" name="google-site-verification" content="1VqzbDm4ukeFVHOoq5LjIKA2fVKZD-EYv8cXZhKXSfU" /><meta charset="utf-8" /><meta name="robots" content="noarchive,index,follow,max-image-preview:large" /><meta name="apple-itunes-app" content="app-id=324906251, app-argument=https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/1214662557/ufos-rfks-conspiracy-theories" /><meta name="Rating" content="General" /><meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1, shrink-to-fit=no" /><meta name="npr-pjax" /><meta name="date" content="2024-11-22" /><link rel="canonical" href="https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/1214662557/ufos-rfks-conspiracy-theories" /><meta name="description" content="Are UFOs real? Maybe, but that's not the point. From Congressional hearings on UFOs to the claims of RFK Jr., conspiracies have gone from fringe to mainstream political talking points. Authors Kelly Weill and Mike Rothschild join the show to explain why. Then, PEOPLE Magazine released this year's Sexiest Man Alive... and it was certainly a choice! But it got Brittany thinking: what makes someone sexy in the year 2024, and who decides what's hot? The hosts of Who Weekly, Bobby Finger and Lindsey Weber, join the show to get into it." /><link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Culture" href="https://feeds.npr.org/1008/rss.xml" /><link rel="alternate" type="application/json" title="Culture" href="https://feeds.npr.org/feeds/1008/feed.json" /><meta name="cXenseParse:pageclass" content="article" /><meta name="cXenseParse:publishtime" content="2024-11-22T03:00:59-05:00" /><meta name="cXenseParse:author" content="Brittany Luse|Barton Girdwood|Alexis Williams|Jasmine Romero|Corey Antonio Rose|Liam McBain" data-separator="|" /><link rel="apple-touch-icon" sizes="180x180" href="https://media.npr.org/chrome/favicon/favicon-180x180.png" /><link rel="shortcut icon" href="https://media.npr.org/chrome/favicon/favicon.ico" /><link rel="icon" sizes="96x96" href="https://media.npr.org/chrome/favicon/favicon-96x96.png" /><link rel="icon" sizes="48x48" href="https://media.npr.org/chrome/favicon/favicon-48x48.png" /><link rel="icon" sizes="32x32" href="https://media.npr.org/chrome/favicon/favicon-32x32.png" /><link rel="icon" sizes="16x16" href="https://media.npr.org/chrome/favicon/favicon-16x16.png" /><meta property="og:title" content="UFOs to RFKs: How conspiracy theories went mainstream : It's Been a Minute" /><meta property="og:url" content="https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/1214662557/ufos-rfks-conspiracy-theories" /><meta property="og:type" content="article" /><meta property="og:description" content="Are UFOs real? Maybe, but that's not the point. From Congressional hearings on UFOs to the claims of RFK Jr., conspiracies have gone from fringe to mainstream political talking points. Authors Kelly Weill and Mike Rothschild join the show to explain why. Then, PEOPLE Magazine released this year's Sexiest Man Alive... and it was certainly a choice! But it got Brittany thinking: what makes someone sexy in the year 2024, and who decides what's hot? The hosts of Who Weekly, Bobby Finger and Lindsey Weber, join the show to get into it." /><meta property="og:image" content="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/21/aliens_wide-5f6bd542f03dfd038e085183534dfd91f640b259.jpg?s=1400&c=100&f=jpeg" /><meta property="og:site_name" content="NPR" /><meta property="fb:app_id" content="138837436154588" /><meta property="fb:pages" content="10643211755" /><meta property="article:content_tier" content="free" /><meta property="article:opinion" content="false" /><meta name="twitter:card" content="summary_large_image" /><meta name="twitter:title" content="UFOs to RFKs: How conspiracy theories went mainstream : It's Been a Minute" /><meta name="twitter:site" content="@NPR" /><meta name="twitter:domain" content="npr.org" /><meta name="twitter:image:src" content="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/21/aliens_wide-5f6bd542f03dfd038e085183534dfd91f640b259.jpg?s=1400&c=100&f=jpeg" /><script id="npr-vars"> window.NPR = window.NPR || {}; NPR.ServerConstants = {"cbHost":"npr.org","webHost":"https:\/\/www.npr.org","geolocationHost":"https:\/\/www.npr.org","legacyWebHost":"https:\/\/legacy.npr.org","stripeServiceHost":"https:\/\/stripe.npr.org","recaptchaV3SiteKey":"6LcdN9IZAAAAAOHT985BJjbzjkBjKSxdxK3GeKSt","placesApiKey":"AIzaSyB_wzlXPVwS4kHRAZsM6scMzUAIsJ6aMZ4","embedHost":"https:\/\/www.npr.org","webHostSecure":"https:\/\/secure.npr.org","identityHost":"https:\/\/identity.api.npr.org","apiHost":"https:\/\/api.npr.org","stationApiHost":"https:\/\/station.api.npr.org","environment":"prod","serverMediaCache":"https:\/\/media.npr.org","googleAnalyticsAccount":"UA-5828686-4","gtmKey":"GTM-MVD397M","nielsenSFCode":"dcr","nielsenAPN":"NPR-dcr","shouldShowHPLocalContent":true,"cookieDomain":".npr.org","organizationV4Host":"https:\/\/organization.api.npr.org","staticAssetsHost":"https:\/\/static-assets.npr.org"}; NPR.serverVars = {"storyId":"1214662557","storyCategory":"Society and Culture","isHiring":true,"facebookAppId":"138837436154588","webpackPublicPath":"https:\/\/bundles.npr.org\/dist\/bundles\/","persistenceVersion":"dc6ca5382641618149badd84283456fc","isBuildOut":true,"pageLayoutName":"ShowEpisodeLayout","topicIds":["P1008","1014","1026","1048","1166"],"primaryTopic":"Culture","topics":["Culture","Politics","Space","Pop Culture","Perspective"],"theme":"510317","aggIds":["1008","1014","1026","1048","1166","510317","564899221","959668312","1123917129","1143682621","1143683347"],"byline":["Brittany Luse","Barton Girdwood","Alexis Williams","Jasmine Romero","Corey Antonio Rose","Liam McBain"],"contentPartnerOrgFullName":"1 | NPR","pubDate":"2024112203","fullPubDate":"Fri, 22 Nov 2024 03:00:59 -0500","pageTypeId":"15","title":"UFOs to RFKs: How conspiracy theories went mainstream","publisherOrgId":"1"}; </script> <script type="text/javascript" src="https://cdn.optimizely.com/js/11107397707.js"> </script> <script type="text/javascript" src="https://static-assets.npr.org/static/javascript/lib/modernizr/modernizr.custom.js"> </script> <script type="text/javascript" src="https://static-assets.npr.org/static/javascript/lib/svg-loader.min.js"> </script> <script type="text/javascript" async src="https://js.stripe.com/v3/"> </script> <script> !function(e){function r(r){for(var t,o,d=r[0],f=r[1],b=r[2],i=0,l=[];i<d.length;i++)o=d[i],Object.prototype.hasOwnProperty.call(n,o)&&n[o]&&l.push(n[o][0]),n[o]=0;for(t in f)Object.prototype.hasOwnProperty.call(f,t)&&(e[t]=f[t]);for(u&&u(r);l.length;)l.shift()();return c.push.apply(c,b||[]),a()}function a(){for(var e,r=0;r<c.length;r++){for(var a=c[r],t=!0,d=1;d<a.length;d++){var f=a[d];0!==n[f]&&(t=!1)}t&&(c.splice(r--,1),e=o(o.s=a[0]))}return e}var t={},n={0:0},c=[];function o(r){if(t[r])return t[r].exports;var a=t[r]={i:r,l:!1,exports:{}};return e[r].call(a.exports,a,a.exports,o),a.l=!0,a.exports}o.e=function(e){var r=[],a=n[e];if(0!==a)if(a)r.push(a[2]);else{var t=new Promise((function(r,t){a=n[e]=[r,t]}));r.push(a[2]=t);var c,d=document.createElement("script");d.charset="utf-8",d.timeout=120,o.nc&&d.setAttribute("nonce",o.nc),d.src=function(e){return o.p+""+e+"."+{1:"1cc38445607d21bc32a0",2:"6e6f4f056d55c519c233",3:"9be5ee50abe37e768f5c",4:"2405e41ec529f202506c",5:"04e52c51baeda911a46a",6:"be83b1ac6cd79ab71765",7:"826b5f941d1ebae779ed",8:"d5de401732511e7d88bb",9:"f23d60a0db48311059ac",10:"d54aaa9e0dc01e32c36b",73:"a588d581084d270c2664",74:"d27cbd060d5aa3a531f0",75:"8fcc954db477457ff858",76:"04efa1ccb3a4381e5bb4",77:"929faa0690d0ebc092ea",78:"f7b26db999f9ec13aec4",79:"912cd4fa10417c2e281f",80:"d5dc545bb8c777c9a202",81:"a4f986d9b27c5409fecb",82:"566df69f2568610a2bd0",83:"df5e1ae315931d2b5ce7",84:"d8d8025e7f304d2106f4",85:"9f771054dfee76c7d68c",86:"71e6eb5243be2f68aabb",87:"86704756ec93d981fddf",88:"c00df55abc9590c1c43e",89:"e4ee49a282463e7804a1",90:"53163fb03a49a6726de8",91:"d19a9811b14651c39c84",92:"ec6da34a44eaef4f6163",93:"555bbf138433e041e14a",94:"6aac751af7bddc641ca9",95:"1681f60da6176400cd5f",96:"d61a221b7aea4db505f9",97:"e4b0b55194733b6a91be",98:"60e7069f094cdc347b85",99:"a8dbedc94ac493dadb4d",100:"0eda2b2b92b180d58faf"}[e]+".chunk.js"}(e);var f=new Error;c=function(r){d.onerror=d.onload=null,clearTimeout(b);var a=n[e];if(0!==a){if(a){var t=r&&("load"===r.type?"missing":r.type),c=r&&r.target&&r.target.src;f.message="Loading chunk "+e+" failed.\n("+t+": "+c+")",f.name="ChunkLoadError",f.type=t,f.request=c,a[1](f)}n[e]=void 0}};var b=setTimeout((function(){c({type:"timeout",target:d})}),12e4);d.onerror=d.onload=c,document.head.appendChild(d)}return Promise.all(r)},o.m=e,o.c=t,o.d=function(e,r,a){o.o(e,r)||Object.defineProperty(e,r,{enumerable:!0,get:a})},o.r=function(e){"undefined"!=typeof Symbol&&Symbol.toStringTag&&Object.defineProperty(e,Symbol.toStringTag,{value:"Module"}),Object.defineProperty(e,"__esModule",{value:!0})},o.t=function(e,r){if(1&r&&(e=o(e)),8&r)return e;if(4&r&&"object"==typeof e&&e&&e.__esModule)return e;var a=Object.create(null);if(o.r(a),Object.defineProperty(a,"default",{enumerable:!0,value:e}),2&r&&"string"!=typeof e)for(var t in e)o.d(a,t,function(r){return e[r]}.bind(null,t));return a},o.n=function(e){var r=e&&e.__esModule?function(){return e.default}:function(){return e};return o.d(r,"a",r),r},o.o=function(e,r){return Object.prototype.hasOwnProperty.call(e,r)},o.p="/dist/bundles/",o.oe=function(e){throw console.error(e),e};var d=window.webpackJsonp=window.webpackJsonp||[],f=d.push.bind(d);d.push=r,d=d.slice();for(var b=0;b<d.length;b++)r(d[b]);var u=f;a()}([]); </script> <script type="text/javascript" src="https://bundles.npr.org/dist/bundles/32.d85d8a8a20912c755383.chunk.js"> </script> <link rel="stylesheet" data-persist="true" media="screen, print" href="https://bundles.npr.org/dist/bundles/persistent-css-91e7828ebe6352ebd455.css" /><link rel="stylesheet" data-persist="true" media="screen and (min-width: 768px)" href="https://bundles.npr.org/dist/bundles/persistent_medium-css-91e7828ebe6352ebd455.css" /><link rel="stylesheet" data-persist="true" media="screen and (min-width: 1025px)" href="https://bundles.npr.org/dist/bundles/persistent_large-css-91e7828ebe6352ebd455.css" /><link rel="preload" data-persist="true" media="screen, print" href="https://bundles.npr.org/dist/bundles/fonts-css-91e7828ebe6352ebd455.css" as="style" onload="this.onload=null;this.rel='stylesheet'" /><link rel="stylesheet" media="screen, print" href="https://bundles.npr.org/dist/bundles/newsStory-css-91e7828ebe6352ebd455.css" /><script type="application/ld+json"> {"@type":"NewsArticle","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"NPR","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https:\/\/media.npr.org\/chrome\/npr-logo.jpg"}},"headline":"UFOs to RFKs: How conspiracy theories went mainstream","mainEntityOfPage":{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2024\/11\/22\/1214662557\/ufos-rfks-conspiracy-theories"},"datePublished":"2024-11-22T03:00:59-05:00","dateModified":"2024-11-22T03:00:59-05:00","author":{"@type":"Person","name":["Brittany Luse"]},"description":"Are UFOs real? Maybe, but that's not the point. From Congressional hearings on UFOs to the claims of RFK Jr., conspiracies have gone from fringe to mainstream political talking points. Authors <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Off-Edge-Earthers-Conspiracy-Anything\/dp\/1643750682\">Kelly Weill<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Jewish-Space-Lasers-Rothschilds-Conspiracy\/dp\/1685890644\/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.xGiqi8NvoFBIZMHf8M0vE_cSllYrMRZReaRIUseg-cZa6suO9di6fe5Y5H_SSGzFV2fDC0GsfXwrinIamHjsrXT-rjnzvTzvw-ygLElSLg_Uo6T9Ubjx4hCaGg2JyyGXHMP549iwF6GNU7Wce_POiw.8xRPc803CqfSFNcNrUISRWDGYY9OcO_l-qZkyv2ujVE&dib_tag=se&qid=1732224686&refinements=p_27%3AMike+Rothschild&s=books&sr=1-1\">Mike Rothschild<\/a> join the show to explain why. <br><br>Then, PEOPLE Magazine released this year's Sexiest Man Alive... and it was certainly a choice! But it got Brittany thinking: what makes someone sexy in the year 2024, and who decides what's hot? The hosts of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.whoweekly.us\/\">Who Weekly<\/a>, Bobby Finger and Lindsey Weber, join the show to get into it.","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https:\/\/media.npr.org\/assets\/img\/2024\/11\/21\/aliens_wide-5f6bd542f03dfd038e085183534dfd91f640b259.jpg"},"@context":"http:\/\/schema.org"} </script> <script type="text/javascript"> document.domain="www.npr.org"; </script> <script id="piano-aid" type="text/javascript" data-piano-aid="9ENxKQ58pu"> (function(src) { var a = document.createElement("script"); a.type = "text/javascript"; a.async = true; a.src = src; var b = document.getElementsByTagName("script")[0]; b.parentNode.insertBefore(a, b) })("//cdn.piano.io/api/tinypass.min.js"); window.pdl = window.pdl || {}; window.pdl.requireConsent = true; tp = window.tp || []; tp.push(["init", function() { tp.enableGACrossDomainLinking(); }]); </script> <script>!function(e){var n="https://s.go-mpulse.net/boomerang/";if("False"=="True")e.BOOMR_config=e.BOOMR_config||{},e.BOOMR_config.PageParams=e.BOOMR_config.PageParams||{},e.BOOMR_config.PageParams.pci=!0,n="https://s2.go-mpulse.net/boomerang/";if(window.BOOMR_API_key="MBVDT-3L9KY-36ZMJ-SPSAR-JR833",function(){function e(){if(!o){var e=document.createElement("script");e.id="boomr-scr-as",e.src=window.BOOMR.url,e.async=!0,i.parentNode.appendChild(e),o=!0}}function t(e){o=!0;var n,t,a,r,d=document,O=window;if(window.BOOMR.snippetMethod=e?"if":"i",t=function(e,n){var t=d.createElement("script");t.id=n||"boomr-if-as",t.src=window.BOOMR.url,BOOMR_lstart=(new Date).getTime(),e=e||d.body,e.appendChild(t)},!window.addEventListener&&window.attachEvent&&navigator.userAgent.match(/MSIE [67]\./))return window.BOOMR.snippetMethod="s",void t(i.parentNode,"boomr-async");a=document.createElement("IFRAME"),a.src="about:blank",a.title="",a.role="presentation",a.loading="eager",r=(a.frameElement||a).style,r.width=0,r.height=0,r.border=0,r.display="none",i.parentNode.appendChild(a);try{O=a.contentWindow,d=O.document.open()}catch(_){n=document.domain,a.src="javascript:var d=document.open();d.domain='"+n+"';void(0);",O=a.contentWindow,d=O.document.open()}if(n)d._boomrl=function(){this.domain=n,t()},d.write("<bo"+"dy onload='document._boomrl();'>");else if(O._boomrl=function(){t()},O.addEventListener)O.addEventListener("load",O._boomrl,!1);else if(O.attachEvent)O.attachEvent("onload",O._boomrl);d.close()}function a(e){window.BOOMR_onload=e&&e.timeStamp||(new Date).getTime()}if(!window.BOOMR||!window.BOOMR.version&&!window.BOOMR.snippetExecuted){window.BOOMR=window.BOOMR||{},window.BOOMR.snippetStart=(new Date).getTime(),window.BOOMR.snippetExecuted=!0,window.BOOMR.snippetVersion=12,window.BOOMR.url=n+"MBVDT-3L9KY-36ZMJ-SPSAR-JR833";var i=document.currentScript||document.getElementsByTagName("script")[0],o=!1,r=document.createElement("link");if(r.relList&&"function"==typeof r.relList.supports&&r.relList.supports("preload")&&"as"in r)window.BOOMR.snippetMethod="p",r.href=window.BOOMR.url,r.rel="preload",r.as="script",r.addEventListener("load",e),r.addEventListener("error",function(){t(!0)}),setTimeout(function(){if(!o)t(!0)},3e3),BOOMR_lstart=(new Date).getTime(),i.parentNode.appendChild(r);else t(!1);if(window.addEventListener)window.addEventListener("load",a,!1);else if(window.attachEvent)window.attachEvent("onload",a)}}(),"".length>0)if(e&&"performance"in e&&e.performance&&"function"==typeof e.performance.setResourceTimingBufferSize)e.performance.setResourceTimingBufferSize();!function(){if(BOOMR=e.BOOMR||{},BOOMR.plugins=BOOMR.plugins||{},!BOOMR.plugins.AK){var n=""=="true"?1:0,t="",a="bdpnbet4tpppuz2hivrq-f-9ac5b07e1-clientnsv4-s.akamaihd.net",i="false"=="true"?2:1,o={"ak.v":"39","ak.cp":"55818","ak.ai":parseInt("290690",10),"ak.ol":"0","ak.cr":1,"ak.ipv":4,"ak.proto":"http/1.1","ak.rid":"1fd58fe0","ak.r":6099,"ak.a2":n,"ak.m":"dsca","ak.n":"essl","ak.bpcip":"8.222.208.0","ak.cport":59418,"ak.gh":"124.155.222.179","ak.quicv":"","ak.tlsv":"tls1.2","ak.0rtt":"","ak.0rtt.ed":"","ak.csrc":"-","ak.acc":"reno","ak.t":"1732724067","ak.ak":"hOBiQwZUYzCg5VSAfCLimQ==Y0235w1/fqntwmrtHxfOIErBWEoboAkq5f1/9KXQ89aRM94TzW8rQdHYMVfm85Nn0fM9UyDmsm9Z/iv9DFcwk5CjK0GZaJQSf45Roqva7jkdh/8+gjTfvKlnSQrdl2ty0GGX7RxRniFRInUJ4H3T2l53wiy9NBx5bm9KEvhfhsflAKxCTv3kMa0pOSyYBc2BGvoVf4OU2WFfz8E6CGO828MJKcq8McbRDJik0wHFh7clay9tprwd/CBE8VAbvtj/fWhlmc3FMTE3k3J+ckLI50zrAmiMEoiAJYGR9iS1waIYqu6/G5/J9rBjYvRIsgs3LPJJzp2z9ObCGn0cEGUe6UbxdZ3wh7NkZDRQ7QWVxmX2urhWx9ZEMb85bzgGUH6TNXEcMWOCsK3fmAIOiAjUy3C9rYRPP1Yh2erelp5dUGI=","ak.pv":"97","ak.dpoabenc":"","ak.tf":i};if(""!==t)o["ak.ruds"]=t;var r={i:!1,av:function(n){var t="http.initiator";if(n&&(!n[t]||"spa_hard"===n[t]))o["ak.feo"]=void 0!==e.aFeoApplied?1:0,BOOMR.addVar(o)},rv:function(){var e=["ak.bpcip","ak.cport","ak.cr","ak.csrc","ak.gh","ak.ipv","ak.m","ak.n","ak.ol","ak.proto","ak.quicv","ak.tlsv","ak.0rtt","ak.0rtt.ed","ak.r","ak.acc","ak.t","ak.tf"];BOOMR.removeVar(e)}};BOOMR.plugins.AK={akVars:o,akDNSPreFetchDomain:a,init:function(){if(!r.i){var e=BOOMR.subscribe;e("before_beacon",r.av,null,null),e("onbeacon",r.rv,null,null),r.i=!0}return this},is_complete:function(){return!0}}}}()}(window);</script></head><body id="news" class="news tmplShowEpisode story-layout is-buildout no-transcript has-no-branding has-podcast-tools id1214662557 " data-pjax-modules="util/env images/lazy-load data-consent data-management-platform header-bidding metrics nielsen nielsenDCR copyright auto-refresh navigation/global-navigation fitvids googletag dfp globalfooter persistent-audio player/more-options player/audio-module-clickable what-input metrics/doubleclickFloodlight callout/on-page-callouts global-alerts we-are-hiring piano rum ecommerce recommendations/end-of-story-recommendations-callout jw social/share slideshow images/enlargement contentfooter story/date-tooltip social/sharepop podcast-cards search/faceting-param local/newsletter/callout social/recaptcha">  <noscript><iframe src="https://www.googletagmanager.com/ns.html?id=GTM-MVD397M" height="0" width="0" style="display:none;visibility:hidden"></iframe></noscript>  <div class="skip-links"> <span>Accessibility links</span> <ul> <li><a href="#mainContent" class="skiplink">Skip to main content</a></li> <li><a href="https://help.npr.org/contact/s/article?name=what-are-the-keyboard-shortcuts-for-using-the-npr-org-audio-player" class="skiplink">Keyboard shortcuts for audio player</a></li> </ul> </div> <header class="npr-header" id="globalheader" aria-label="NPR header"> <nav class="navigation"> <div class="navigation__top-level-wrap" data-metrics-category-ga4="recirculation"> <ul class="navigation__top-level"> <li class="navigation__toggle-wrap"> <button id="navigation__toggle--open" class="navigation__toggle navigation__toggle--open" aria-haspopup="true" aria-expanded="false" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"open navigation menu","clickType":"global navigation"}'> Open Navigation Menu </button> </li> <li class="navigation__home"> <a href="/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"npr logo","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"\/"}'> <img src="https://media.npr.org/chrome_svg/npr-logo.svg" alt="NPR logo"/> </a> </li> <li id="navigation__station-mount"></li> <li class="navigation__newsletters"> <div class="navigation__newsletters-inner"> <a href="/newsletters/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"newsletters","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/newsletters/"}' target='_blank'>Newsletters</a> </div> </li> <li id="user-account-dropdown-mount" class="navigation__account"></li> <li class="navigation__shop"> <a href="https://shopnpr.org" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"npr shop","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"https://shopnpr.org"}'>NPR Shop</a> </li> <li id="navigation__station-donate-mount"></li> </ul> </div> <section id="main-menu" class="menu menu--main" data-metrics-category-ga4="recirculation"> <div class="menu__inner"> <header class="menu__header"> <button id="navigation__toggle--close" class="navigation__toggle navigation__toggle--close" aria-haspopup="true" aria-expanded="true" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"close navigation menu","clickType":"global navigation"}'> Close <span>Navigation Menu</span> </button> </header> <ul class="menu__list"> <li class="menu__item menu__item--home"> <div class="menu__item-inner"><a href="/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"npr logo","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"\/"}'>Home</a></div> </li> <li class="menu__item menu__item--news menu__item--has-submenu"> <div class="menu__item-inner"> <a href="/sections/news/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"news","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/news/"}'>News</a> <button class="menu__toggle-submenu" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"toggle news drawer","clickType":"global navigation"}'>Expand/collapse submenu for News</button> </div> <ul class="submenu submenu--news"> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/elections/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"election2024","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/elections/"}'>Election 2024</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/national/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"national","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/national/"}'>National</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/world/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"world","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/world/"}'>World</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/politics/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"politics","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/politics/"}'>Politics</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/business/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"business","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/business/"}'>Business</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/health/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"health","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/health/"}'>Health</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/science/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"science","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/science/"}'>Science</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/climate/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"climate","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/climate/"}'>Climate</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/codeswitch/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"race","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/codeswitch/"}'>Race</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="menu__item menu__item--culture menu__item--has-submenu"> <div class="menu__item-inner"> <a href="/sections/culture/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"culture","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/culture/"}'>Culture</a> <button class="menu__toggle-submenu" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"toggle culture drawer","clickType":"global navigation"}'>Expand/collapse submenu for Culture</button> </div> <ul class="submenu submenu--culture"> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/books/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"books","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/books/"}'>Books</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/movies/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"movies","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/movies/"}'>Movies</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/television/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"television","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/television/"}'>Television</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/pop-culture/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"pop culture","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/pop-culture/"}'>Pop Culture</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/food/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"food","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/food/"}'>Food</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/art-design/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"art & design","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/art-design/"}'>Art & Design</a> </li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/performing-arts/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"performing arts","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/performing-arts/"}'>Performing Arts</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/lifekit/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"life kit","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/lifekit/"}'>Life Kit</a></li> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/sections/gaming/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"gaming","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/sections/gaming/"}'>Gaming</a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="menu__item menu__item--music menu__item--has-submenu"> <div class="menu__item-inner"> <a href="/music/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"music","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/music/"}'>Music</a> <button class="menu__toggle-submenu" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"toggle music drawer","clickType":"global navigation"}'>Expand/collapse submenu for Music</button> </div> <ul class="submenu submenu--music"><li class="submenu__item"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"recirculation","action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"all songs considered","clickType":"music ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/allsongs\/"}' > All Songs Considered </a> </li><li class="submenu__item"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/music-features" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"recirculation","action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"music features","clickType":"music ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/music-features"}' > Music Features </a> </li><li class="submenu__item"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/series/tiny-desk-concerts/" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"recirculation","action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"tiny desk","clickType":"music ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/series\/tiny-desk-concerts\/"}' > Tiny Desk </a> </li><li class="submenu__item"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/series/770565791/npr-music-live-sessions" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"recirculation","action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"live sessions","clickType":"music ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/series\/770565791\/npr-music-live-sessions"}' > Live Sessions </a> </li></ul> </li> <li class="menu__item menu__item--shows-podcasts menu__item--has-submenu"> <div class="menu__item-inner"> <a href="/podcasts-and-shows/" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"podcasts & shows","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/podcasts-and-shows/"}'>Podcasts & Shows</a> <button class="menu__toggle-submenu" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"toggle podcasts & shows drawer","clickType":"global navigation"}'>Expand/collapse submenu for Podcasts & Shows</button> </div> <div class="submenu submenu--shows-podcasts"> <span class="submenu__category submenu__category--daily">Daily</span> <ul class="submenu__list submenu__list--daily"> <li class="submenu__item submenu__item--timed submenu__item--weekday hidden"> <a href="/programs/morning-edition/" data-metrics-action="click morning edition" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"morning edition","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/programs/morning-edition/"}'> <img src="https://media.npr.org/chrome/programs/logos/morning-edition.jpg" loading="lazy" alt="" /> Morning Edition </a> </li> <li class="submenu__item submenu__item--timed submenu__item--saturday hidden" > <a href="/programs/weekend-edition-saturday/" data-metrics-action="click weekend edition saturday" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"weekend edition saturday","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/programs/weekend-edition-saturday/"}'> <img src="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/02/26/we_otherentitiestemplatesat_sq-cbde87a2fa31b01047441e6f34d2769b0287bcd4-s100-c85.png" loading="lazy" alt="" /> Weekend Edition Saturday </a> </li> <li class="submenu__item submenu__item--timed submenu__item--sunday hidden"> <a href="/programs/weekend-edition-sunday/" data-metrics-action="click weekend edition sunday" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"weekend edition sunday","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/programs/weekend-edition-sunday/"}'> <img src="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/02/26/we_otherentitiestemplatesun_sq-4a03b35e7e5adfa446aec374523a578d54dc9bf5-s100-c85.png" loading="lazy" alt="" /> Weekend Edition Sunday </a> </li> <li class="submenu__item"> <a href="/programs/all-things-considered/" data-metrics-action="click all things considered" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"all things considered","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/programs/all-things-considered/"}'> <img src="https://media.npr.org/chrome/programs/logos/all-things-considered.png" loading="lazy" alt="" /> All Things Considered </a> </li> <li class="submenu__item"> <a href="/programs/fresh-air/" data-metrics-action="click fresh air" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"fresh air","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/programs/fresh-air/"}'> <img src="https://media.npr.org/chrome/programs/logos/fresh-air.png" loading="lazy" alt="" /> Fresh Air </a> </li> <li class="submenu__item"> <a href="/podcasts/510318/up-first/" data-metrics-action="click up first" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"up first","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/podcasts/510318/up-first/"}'> <img src="https://media.npr.org/chrome/programs/logos/up-first.jpg?version=2" loading="lazy" alt="" /> Up First </a> </li> </ul> <span class="submenu__category submenu__category--featured">Featured</span> <ul class="submenu__list submenu__list--featured"><li class="submenu__item"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510310/npr-politics-podcast" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"recirculation","action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"the npr politics podcast","clickType":"music ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/podcasts\/510310\/npr-politics-podcast"}' > <img src="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/01/11/podcast-politics_2023_update1_sq-be7ef464dd058fe663d9e4cfe836fb9309ad0a4d-s100-c100.jpg" data-original="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/01/11/podcast-politics_2023_update1_sq-be7ef464dd058fe663d9e4cfe836fb9309ad0a4d-s100.jpg" class=" lazy" alt="" loading="lazy" /> The NPR Politics Podcast </a> </li><li class="submenu__item"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510333/throughline" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"recirculation","action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"throughline","clickType":"music ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/podcasts\/510333\/throughline"}' > <img src="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/05/15/throughline_tile-art_sq-b72bcfb6d8705d7761d4f421f0be3047631b709c-s100-c100.jpg" data-original="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/05/15/throughline_tile-art_sq-b72bcfb6d8705d7761d4f421f0be3047631b709c-s100.jpg" class=" lazy" alt="" loading="lazy" /> Throughline </a> </li><li class="submenu__item"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510374/trumps-terms" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"recirculation","action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"trump's terms","clickType":"music ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/podcasts\/510374\/trumps-terms"}' > <img src="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/20/trumps-terms_tile-art_sq-09be0b471c4010c009718fe1a5b962defaf277c8-s100-c100.jpg" data-original="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/20/trumps-terms_tile-art_sq-09be0b471c4010c009718fe1a5b962defaf277c8-s100.jpg" class=" lazy" alt="" loading="lazy" /> Trump's Terms </a> </li><li class="submenu__item"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510379/wild-card-with-rachel-martin" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"recirculation","action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"wild card with rachel martin","clickType":"music ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/podcasts\/510379\/wild-card-with-rachel-martin"}' > <img src="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/04/19/tile-wild-card-with-rachel-martin_sq-c9e842a167bab21c50f45fbde9d7d33776e87eda-s100-c100.jpg" data-original="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/04/19/tile-wild-card-with-rachel-martin_sq-c9e842a167bab21c50f45fbde9d7d33776e87eda-s100.jpg" class=" lazy" alt="" loading="lazy" /> Wild Card with Rachel Martin </a> </li></ul> <ul class="submenu__list submenu__list--directories"> <li class="submenu__item"><a href="/podcasts-and-shows/" data-metrics-action="click podcasts & shows" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"podcasts & shows","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/podcasts-and-shows/"}'>More Podcasts & Shows</a></li> </ul> </div> </li> <li class="menu__item menu__item--search"> <div class="menu__item-inner"> <a href="/search/" id="navigation_dropdown-search" data-metrics-action="click search" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"search","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/search/"}'>Search</a> </div> </li> <li class="menu__item menu__item--newsletters"> <div class="menu__item-inner"> <a href="/newsletters/" data-metrics-action="click newsletters" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"newsletters","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/newsletters/"}' target='_blank'>Newsletters</a> </div> </li> <li id="user-account-dropdown-mount-two" class="menu__item menu__item--account"></li> <li class="menu__item menu__item--shop"> <div class="menu__item-inner"> <a href="https://shopnpr.org" data-metrics-action="click npr shop" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"npr shop","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"https://shopnpr.org"}'>NPR Shop</a> </div> </li> </ul> </div> </section> <section class="menu menu--music" data-metrics-category-ga4="recirculation"> <div class="menu__list-wrap"> <ul class="menu__list menu__list--ecosystem menu__list--music"> <li class="menu__item menu__item--music-home"> <a href="/music/" data-metrics-action="click npr music logo" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"npr music logo","clickType":"global navigation","clickUrl":"/music/"}'> <img src="https://media.npr.org/chrome_svg/music-logo-dark.svg" class="music-logo" alt="NPR Music" /> <img src="https://media.npr.org/chrome_svg/music-logo-light.svg" class="music-logo-alt" alt="NPR Music" /> </a> </li> <li class="menu__item"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"recirculation","action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"all songs considered","clickType":"music ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/allsongs\/"}' > All Songs Considered </a> </li><li class="menu__item"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/music-features" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"recirculation","action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"music features","clickType":"music ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/music-features"}' > Music Features </a> </li><li class="menu__item"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/series/tiny-desk-concerts/" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"recirculation","action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"tiny desk","clickType":"music ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/series\/tiny-desk-concerts\/"}' > Tiny Desk </a> </li><li class="menu__item"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/series/770565791/npr-music-live-sessions" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"recirculation","action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"live sessions","clickType":"music ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/series\/770565791\/npr-music-live-sessions"}' > Live Sessions </a> </li> </ul> </div> </section> <section class="menu menu--about" data-metrics-category-ga4="recirculation"> <div class="menu__list-wrap"> <ul class="menu__list menu__list--ecosystem menu__list--about"> <li class="menu__item menu__item--about-home"><a href="/about/" data-metrics-action="click about npr" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"about npr","clickType":"about ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"/about/"}'>About NPR</a></li> <li class="menu__item menu__item--about-diversity"><a href="/diversity/" data-metrics-action="click diversity" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"diversity","clickType":"about ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"/diversity/"}'>Diversity</a></li> <li class="menu__item menu__item--about-support"><a href="/support/" data-metrics-action="click support" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"support","clickType":"about ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"/support/"}'>Support</a></li> <li class="menu__item menu__item--about-careers"><a href="/careers/" data-metrics-action="click careers" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"careers","clickType":"about ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"/careers/"}'>Careers</a></li> <li class="menu__item menu__item--about-press"><a href="/series/750003/press-room/" data-metrics-action="click press" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"press","clickType":"about ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"/series/750003/press-room/"}'>Press</a></li> <li class="menu__item menu__item--about-ethics"><a href="/ethics/" data-metrics-action="click ethics" data-metrics-ga4='{"action":"global_navigation_click","clickName":"ethics","clickType":"about ecosystem navigation","clickUrl":"/ethics/"}'>Ethics</a></li> </ul> </div> </section> </nav> </header><main aria-label="main content"><div class="speakable"> <b data-is-speakable>Are UFOs real? And 'The Sexiest Man Alive' : It's Been a Minute</b> <b data-is-speakable>Are UFOs real? Maybe, but that's not the point. From Congressional hearings on UFOs to the claims of RFK Jr., conspiracies have gone from fringe to mainstream political talking points. Authors <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Off-Edge-Earthers-Conspiracy-Anything/dp/1643750682">Kelly Weill</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Space-Lasers-Rothschilds-Conspiracy/dp/1685890644/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.xGiqi8NvoFBIZMHf8M0vE_cSllYrMRZReaRIUseg-cZa6suO9di6fe5Y5H_SSGzFV2fDC0GsfXwrinIamHjsrXT-rjnzvTzvw-ygLElSLg_Uo6T9Ubjx4hCaGg2JyyGXHMP549iwF6GNU7Wce_POiw.8xRPc803CqfSFNcNrUISRWDGYY9OcO_l-qZkyv2ujVE&dib_tag=se&qid=1732224686&refinements=p_27%3AMike+Rothschild&s=books&sr=1-1">Mike Rothschild</a> join the show to explain why. <br><br>Then, PEOPLE Magazine released this year's Sexiest Man Alive... and it was certainly a choice! But it got Brittany thinking: what makes someone sexy in the year 2024, and who decides what's hot? The hosts of <a href="https://www.whoweekly.us/">Who Weekly</a>, Bobby Finger and Lindsey Weber, join the show to get into it.</b> </div> <div id="wrapper"> <header class="contentheader contentheader--one"></header> <section id="main-section"><article class="story"><a id="mainContent"></a><div class="slug-wrap"> <h4 class="slug-tag"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/perspective"> Perspective </a> </h4> <h3 class="slug"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510317/its-been-a-minute">It's Been a Minute</a> </h3> </div> <ul class="podcast-tools podcast-tools--510317"> <div class="imagewrap has-source-dimensions" data-crop-type="" style=" --source-width: 3000; --source-height: 3000; " > <picture> <source srcset="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/27/ibam_tile-2023_sq-8be9968a8deb580001ff44c27f77dcc028095187.jpg?s=1100&c=15&f=jpeg" data-original="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/27/ibam_tile-2023_sq-8be9968a8deb580001ff44c27f77dcc028095187.jpg?s=1100&c=100&f=jpeg" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/27/ibam_tile-2023_sq-8be9968a8deb580001ff44c27f77dcc028095187.jpg?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="webp" class="img lazyOnLoad" type="image/webp" /> <source srcset="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/27/ibam_tile-2023_sq-8be9968a8deb580001ff44c27f77dcc028095187.jpg?s=1100&c=15&f=jpeg" data-original="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/27/ibam_tile-2023_sq-8be9968a8deb580001ff44c27f77dcc028095187.jpg?s=1100&c=100&f=jpeg" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/27/ibam_tile-2023_sq-8be9968a8deb580001ff44c27f77dcc028095187.jpg?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="jpeg" class="img lazyOnLoad" type="image/jpeg" /> <img src="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/27/ibam_tile-2023_sq-8be9968a8deb580001ff44c27f77dcc028095187.jpg?s=1100&c=15&f=jpeg" data-original="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/27/ibam_tile-2023_sq-8be9968a8deb580001ff44c27f77dcc028095187.jpg?s=1100&c=100&f=jpeg" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/27/ibam_tile-2023_sq-8be9968a8deb580001ff44c27f77dcc028095187.jpg?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="jpeg" class="img lazyOnLoad" alt="It's Been a Minute" loading="lazy" /> </picture> </div> <div class="credit-caption"> <div class="caption-wrap"> <div class="caption" aria-label="Image caption"> </div> </div> <span class="credit" aria-label="Image credit"> NPR </span> </div> <div class="podcast-tools__slugandmodal"> <li><div class="slug-wrap"> <h4 class="slug-tag"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/perspective"> Perspective </a> </h4> <h3 class="slug"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510317/its-been-a-minute">It's Been a Minute</a> </h3> </div> </li> <div class="podcast-tools__modal"> <li class="subscribe" data-sharepop data-selector=".sharepop.subscribe"> <button>LISTEN & FOLLOW <svg data-src="https://media.npr.org/chrome_svg/podcasts/apple-podcasts.svg" class="subscribe-logo" id="applepods-icon" alt="Apple Podcasts Logo" ></svg> <svg data-src="https://media.npr.org/chrome_svg/podcasts/spotify.svg" class="subscribe-logo" alt="Spotify Logo" ></svg> <svg data-src="https://media.npr.org/chrome_svg/podcasts/google-podcasts.svg" class="subscribe-logo" alt="Google Pods Logo" ></svg> <svg data-src="https://media.npr.org/chrome_svg/social-icons/story-pages/icon-email-333.svg" class="subscribe-logo email-icon" alt="Email icon" ></svg> </button> </li> <li class="podcast-tools__subscribe-links"> <div class="sharepop-four"> <div class="sharepop"> <ul> <li> <a href="https://rpb3r.app.goo.gl/9BAF" data-analytics-allow-facebook="data-analytics-allow-facebook" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"podcast","action":"podcast_follow_click","clickName":"npr one universal","clickType":"podcast follow button"}' > <span class="subscribe__imagecontainer subscribe__imagecontainer--NPR-One"> </span> NPR App</a></li> <li> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/1250180134?mt=2&at=11l79Y&ct=nprdirectory" data-analytics-allow-facebook="data-analytics-allow-facebook" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"podcast","action":"podcast_follow_click","clickName":"itunes","clickType":"podcast follow button"}' > <span class="subscribe__imagecontainer subscribe__imagecontainer--apple-podcasts"> </span> Apple Podcasts</a></li> <li> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6gcw7EF2i70vXXXJnhBNgA" data-analytics-allow-facebook="data-analytics-allow-facebook" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"podcast","action":"podcast_follow_click","clickName":"Spotify","clickType":"podcast follow button"}' > <span class="subscribe__imagecontainer subscribe__imagecontainer--spotify"> </span> Spotify</a></li> <li> <a href="https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/ae206475-0338-4b52-91db-12dc53d3da8b" data-analytics-allow-facebook="data-analytics-allow-facebook" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"podcast","action":"podcast_follow_click","clickName":"amazon music","clickType":"podcast follow button"}' > <span class="subscribe__imagecontainer subscribe__imagecontainer--amazon-music"> </span> Amazon Music</a></li> <li> <a target="_blank" href="https://feeds.npr.org/510317/podcast.xml" data-analytics-allow-facebook="data-analytics-allow-facebook" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"podcast","action":"podcast_follow_click","clickName":"rss","clickType":"podcast follow button"}' > <span class="subscribe__imagecontainer subscribe__imagecontainer--rss"> </span> RSS link</a></li> </ul> </div>  </div> </li> </div> </div> </ul> <div class="storytitle"> <h1>UFOs to RFKs: How conspiracy theories went mainstream</h1> <input type="hidden" id="title1214662557" value="UFOs to RFKs: How conspiracy theories went mainstream" /> <input type="hidden" id="shortTitle1214662557" value="UFOs to RFKs: How conspiracy theories went mainstream" /> <input type="hidden" id="modelFullUrl1214662557" value="https://www.npr.org/2024/11/22/1214662557/ufos-rfks-conspiracy-theories" /> </div>  <div id="story-meta" class="story-meta has-byline"> <div class="story-meta__one"> <div class="story-meta__one-inner"> <div class="dateblock"> <time datetime="2024-11-22T03:00:59-05:00"> <span class="date">November 22, 2024</span><span class="time">3:00 AM ET</span> </time> </div> </div>  </div>  <div class="story-meta__two"> <div id="storybyline" class="storybyline-wrap linkLocation"> <div class="bucketwrap byline"> <div class="byline-container--block byline-container--block-nophoto"> <p class="byline__name--block">By </p> <div class="byline byline--block byline--has-link" aria-label="Byline"> <div class="byline__photo"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/1123917129/brittany-luse" rel="author"> <picture><source srcset="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/28/ibam_brittanyluse_3_sq-b0ff3ff32513742e0f6381555c5e43ad8b424a4f.jpg?s=100&c=85&f=webp" class="img" type="image/webp" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/28/ibam_brittanyluse_3_sq-b0ff3ff32513742e0f6381555c5e43ad8b424a4f.jpg?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="webp" /><source srcset="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/28/ibam_brittanyluse_3_sq-b0ff3ff32513742e0f6381555c5e43ad8b424a4f.jpg?s=100&c=85&f=jpeg" class="img" type="image/jpeg" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/28/ibam_brittanyluse_3_sq-b0ff3ff32513742e0f6381555c5e43ad8b424a4f.jpg?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="jpeg" /><img src="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/28/ibam_brittanyluse_3_sq-b0ff3ff32513742e0f6381555c5e43ad8b424a4f.jpg?s=100&c=85&f=jpeg" class="img" alt="new photo" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2023/02/28/ibam_brittanyluse_3_sq-b0ff3ff32513742e0f6381555c5e43ad8b424a4f.jpg?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="jpeg" /></picture> </a> </div> <p class="byline__name byline__name--block"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/1123917129/brittany-luse" rel="author"> Brittany Luse </a> </p> </div> <p class="byline__name--block byline__comma">, </p> <div class="byline byline--block byline--has-link" aria-label="Byline"> <div class="byline__photo"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/564899221/barton-girdwood" rel="author"> <picture><source srcset="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/05/28/npr_barton_girdwood_001_sq-052121d799ed8ff35384bddd51a527d914f1312a.jpg?s=100&c=85&f=webp" class="img" type="image/webp" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/05/28/npr_barton_girdwood_001_sq-052121d799ed8ff35384bddd51a527d914f1312a.jpg?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="webp" /><source srcset="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/05/28/npr_barton_girdwood_001_sq-052121d799ed8ff35384bddd51a527d914f1312a.jpg?s=100&c=85&f=jpeg" class="img" type="image/jpeg" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/05/28/npr_barton_girdwood_001_sq-052121d799ed8ff35384bddd51a527d914f1312a.jpg?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="jpeg" /><img src="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/05/28/npr_barton_girdwood_001_sq-052121d799ed8ff35384bddd51a527d914f1312a.jpg?s=100&c=85&f=jpeg" class="img" alt="Barton Girdwood at NPR headquarters in Washington, D.C., May 21, 2019. (photo by Allison Shelley)" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/05/28/npr_barton_girdwood_001_sq-052121d799ed8ff35384bddd51a527d914f1312a.jpg?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="jpeg" /></picture> </a> </div> <p class="byline__name byline__name--block"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/564899221/barton-girdwood" rel="author"> Barton Girdwood </a> </p> </div> <p class="byline__name--block byline__comma">, </p> <div class="byline byline--block byline--has-link" aria-label="Byline"> <p class="byline__name byline__name--block"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/1143682621/alexis-williams" rel="author"> Alexis Williams </a> </p> </div> <p class="byline__name--block byline__comma">, </p> <div class="byline byline--block" aria-label="Byline"> <p class="byline__name byline__name--block"> Jasmine Romero </p> </div> <p class="byline__name--block byline__comma">, </p> <div class="byline byline--block byline--has-link" aria-label="Byline"> <p class="byline__name byline__name--block"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/1143683347/corey-antonio-rose" rel="author"> Corey Antonio Rose </a> </p> </div> <p class="byline__name--block byline__comma">, </p> <div class="byline byline--block byline--has-link" aria-label="Byline"> <div class="byline__photo"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/959668312/liam-mcbain" rel="author"> <picture><source srcset="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/03/15/liam_pic2_sq-7cf1ce3200e94a28bc6bbb20c4e57dedfb322096.png?s=100&c=85&f=webp" class="img" type="image/webp" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/03/15/liam_pic2_sq-7cf1ce3200e94a28bc6bbb20c4e57dedfb322096.png?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="webp" /><source srcset="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/03/15/liam_pic2_sq-7cf1ce3200e94a28bc6bbb20c4e57dedfb322096.png?s=100&c=85&f=png" class="img" type="image/png" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/03/15/liam_pic2_sq-7cf1ce3200e94a28bc6bbb20c4e57dedfb322096.png?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="png" /><img src="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/03/15/liam_pic2_sq-7cf1ce3200e94a28bc6bbb20c4e57dedfb322096.png?s=100&c=85&f=png" class="img" alt="Liam McBain headshot" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/03/15/liam_pic2_sq-7cf1ce3200e94a28bc6bbb20c4e57dedfb322096.png?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="png" /></picture> </a> </div> <p class="byline__name byline__name--block"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/959668312/liam-mcbain" rel="author"> Liam McBain </a> </p> </div> </div> </div>  </div> </div>  </div>  <div id="primaryaudio" class="storylocation linkLocation"> <article id="res1262708853" class="bucketwrap resaudio" aria-label="audio-module"><div class="audio-module"> <h4 class="audio-module-title">UFOs to RFKs: How conspiracy theories went mainstream</h4> <div class="audio-module-controls-wrap" data-audio='{"uid":"1214662557:1262708853","available":true,"duration":2018,"title":"UFOs to RFKs: How conspiracy theories went mainstream","audioUrl":"https:\/\/chrt.fm\/track\/138C95\/prfx.byspotify.com\/e\/play.podtrac.com\/npr-510317\/traffic.megaphone.fm\/NPR4558477051.mp3?d=2018&size=32297005&e=1214662557&t=podcast&p=510317&sc=siteplayer&aw_0_1st.playerid=siteplayer","storyUrl":"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2024\/11\/22\/1214662557\/ufos-rfks-conspiracy-theories","slug":"","program":"It\u0027s Been a Minute","affiliation":"","song":"","artist":"","album":"","track":0,"type":"segment","subtype":"other","skipSponsorship":true,"hasAdsWizz":true,"isStreamAudioType":false}' data-audio-metrics='[]'> <div class="audio-module-controls"> <a class="audio-module-listen" href="https://chrt.fm/track/138C95/prfx.byspotify.com/e/play.podtrac.com/npr-510317/traffic.megaphone.fm/NPR4558477051.mp3?d=2018&size=32297005&e=1214662557&t=podcast&p=510317&sc=siteplayer&aw_0_1st.playerid=siteplayer"> <b class="audio-module-listen-inner"> <b class="audio-module-listen-icon icn-play"></b> <b class="audio-module-listen-text"> <b class="audio-module-cta"> Listen </b> <b class="audio-module-listen-duration"> <span>· </span> <span>33:38</span> </b> </b> </b> </a> <time class="audio-module-duration" datetime="P33M,38S"> <span class="audio-module-duration__initial-value">33:38</span> </time> </div> </div> <div class="audio-module-tools"> <button class="audio-module-tools-toggle" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"audio","action":"audio_open_more_options","storyId":"1214662557","mediaId":"1262708853","title":"UFOs to RFKs: How conspiracy theories went mainstream","type":"ondemand"}' > <b class="icn-toggle"></b> <b class="label">Toggle more options</b> </button> <ul class="audio-module-more-tools"> <li class="audio-tool audio-tool-download"><a href="https://chrt.fm/track/138C95/prfx.byspotify.com/e/play.podtrac.com/npr-510317/traffic.megaphone.fm/NPR4558477051.mp3?d=2018&size=32297005&e=1214662557&t=podcast&p=510317&sc=siteplayer&aw_0_1st.playerid=siteplayer" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"audio","action":"audio_download","storyId":"1214662557","mediaId":"1262708853","title":"UFOs to RFKs: How conspiracy theories went mainstream","type":"ondemand"}' ><b class="icn-download"></b><b class="audio-tool-label">Download</b></a> </li> <li class="audio-tool audio-tool-embed" > <button data-embed-url="https://www.npr.org/player/embed/1214662557/1262708853" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"audio","action":"audio_embed","storyId":"1214662557","mediaId":"1262708853","title":"UFOs to RFKs: How conspiracy theories went mainstream","type":"ondemand"}' ><b class="button-inner"><b class="icn-embed"></b><b class="audio-tool-label">Embed</b></b></button> <div class="audio-embed-overlay"> <button class="btn-close"></button> <label class="embed-label"> <b class="audio-embed-overlay__icon"></b> <b class="label">Embed</b> <input class="embed-url embed-url-no-touch" readonly value="<iframe src="https://www.npr.org/player/embed/1214662557/1262708853" width="100%" height="290" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" title="NPR embedded audio player"></iframe>"> </label> <b class="embed-url embed-url-touch"> <code><b class="punctuation"><</b>iframe src="https://www.npr.org/player/embed/1214662557/1262708853" width="100%" height="290" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" title="NPR embedded audio player"></code> </b> </div> </li> <li class="audio-tool audio-tool-transcript"> <a href="https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1214662557" data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"audio","action":"audio_click_transcript","storyId":"1214662557","mediaId":"1262708853","title":"UFOs to RFKs: How conspiracy theories went mainstream","type":"ondemand"}' > <b class="icn-transcript"></b> <b class="audio-tool-label">Transcript</b> </a> </li> </ul> </div> </div> </article> </div> <div id="storytext" class="storytext storylocation linkLocation"> <div id="res1262699091" class="bucketwrap image large"> <div class="imagewrap has-source-dimensions" data-crop-type="" style=" --source-width: 5325; --source-height: 2995; " > <picture> <source srcset="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/21/aliens_wide-5f6bd542f03dfd038e085183534dfd91f640b259.jpg?s=1100&c=85&f=webp" class="img" type="image/webp" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/21/aliens_wide-5f6bd542f03dfd038e085183534dfd91f640b259.jpg?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="webp" /> <source srcset="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/21/aliens_wide-5f6bd542f03dfd038e085183534dfd91f640b259.jpg?s=1100&c=85&f=jpeg" class="img" type="image/jpeg" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/21/aliens_wide-5f6bd542f03dfd038e085183534dfd91f640b259.jpg?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="jpeg" /> <img src="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/21/aliens_wide-5f6bd542f03dfd038e085183534dfd91f640b259.jpg?s=1100&c=85&f=jpeg" class="img" alt="" data-template="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/21/aliens_wide-5f6bd542f03dfd038e085183534dfd91f640b259.jpg?s={width}&c={quality}&f={format}" data-format="jpeg" /> </picture> <div class="enlarge-options"> <a class="enlargelink" href="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/21/aliens_wide-5f6bd542f03dfd038e085183534dfd91f640b259.jpg?s=2600&c=100&f=jpeg">Enlarge this image</a> </div> </div> <div class="credit-caption"> <div class="caption-wrap"> <div class="caption" aria-label="Image caption"> <p> Night sky and an alien finger touching a human finger. <b class="credit" aria-label="Image credit"> Getty Images </b> <b class="hide-caption"><b>hide caption</b></b> </p> </div> <b class="toggle-caption"><b>toggle caption</b></b> </div> <span class="credit" aria-label="Image credit"> Getty Images </span> </div> <div class="enlarge_measure"> <div class="img_wrap"> <picture> <source data-original="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/21/aliens_wide-5f6bd542f03dfd038e085183534dfd91f640b259.jpg?s=2600&c=100&f=webp" type="image/webp"> <source data-original="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/21/aliens_wide-5f6bd542f03dfd038e085183534dfd91f640b259.jpg?s=2600&c=100&f=jpeg" type="image/jpeg"> <img data-original="https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2024/11/21/aliens_wide-5f6bd542f03dfd038e085183534dfd91f640b259.jpg?s=2600&c=100&f=jpeg" alt="" /> </picture> </div> </div> <div class="enlarge_html"> <div class="image_data"> <p class="caption">Night sky and an alien finger touching a human finger.</p> <span class="credit" aria-label="Image credit"> Getty Images </span> </div> </div> </div> <p>Are UFOs real? Maybe, but that's not the point. From Congressional hearings on UFOs to the popularity of RFK Jr., conspiracies have gone from fringe to mainstream political talking points. Authors <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Off-Edge-Earthers-Conspiracy-Anything/dp/1643750682">Kelly Weill</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Space-Lasers-Rothschilds-Conspiracy/dp/1685890644/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.xGiqi8NvoFBIZMHf8M0vE_cSllYrMRZReaRIUseg-cZa6suO9di6fe5Y5H_SSGzFV2fDC0GsfXwrinIamHjsrXT-rjnzvTzvw-ygLElSLg_Uo6T9Ubjx4hCaGg2JyyGXHMP549iwF6GNU7Wce_POiw.8xRPc803CqfSFNcNrUISRWDGYY9OcO_l-qZkyv2ujVE&dib_tag=se&qid=1732224686&refinements=p_27%3AMike+Rothschild&s=books&sr=1-1">Mike Rothschild</a> join the show to explain why. <br/><br/>Then, PEOPLE Magazine released this year's Sexiest Man Alive... and it was certainly a choice! But it got Brittany thinking: what makes someone sexy in our year 2024, and who decides what's hot? The hosts of <a href="https://www.whoweekly.us/">Who Weekly</a>, Bobby Finger and Lindsey Weber, join the show to get into it. </p> <aside id="ad-backstage-wrap" class="ad-wrap backstage" aria-label="advertisement"> <div class="ad-header "><span>Sponsor Message</span></div> <div id="ad-backstage-podcasts_It_s_Been_a_Minute" class="ad-config ad-backstage has-refresh-enabled" data-ad-config='{"network":"\/6735\/","site":{"desktop":"n6735.NPR","mobile":"n6735.NPRMOBILE"},"zone":"podcasts_It_s_Been_a_Minute","targets":{"testserver":"false","isPodcastEpisode":"true","storyId":"1214662557","orgId":"1"},"location":"backstage","deferred":false,"isBetweenContent":false,"overflowCount":null,"hasRefreshEnabled":true,"isOutstreamVideoEnabled":true}'></div> <div class="ad-footer "></div> </aside> </div> <div class="share-tools share-tools--secondary" aria-label="Share tools"> <ul> <li class="share-tools__service share-tools__service--facebook"><button class="fbStory1214662557" data-share-facebook='{"storyId": "1214662557" }' data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"share","action":"share","clickName":"facebook"}' ><b class="share-tools__service-name">Facebook</b></button></li> <li class="share-tools__service share-tools__service--flipboard"><button class="story1214662557" data-share-flipboard='{"storyId": "1214662557" }' data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"share","action":"share","clickName":"flipboard"}' ><b class="share-tools__service-name">Flipboard</b></button></li> <li class="share-tools__service share-tools__service--email"><button class='share-tools__email-link' data-story-id='1214662557' data-metrics-ga4='{"category":"share","action":"share","clickName":"email"}' ><b class="share-tools__service-name">Email</b></button></li> </ul> </div>  <div id="newsletter-acquisition-callout-data" data-newsletter="{"newsletterId":"breaking-news","title":"Breaking News Alerts","marketingHeader":"Sign Up For Breaking News Alerts","frequency":"","shortDescription":"Stay on top of the latest stories and developments, sent when news breaks.","stickyDescription":"Sign up for Breaking News Alerts to stay on top of the latest stories and developments.","contentImage":"https:\/\/media.npr.org\/assets\/img\/2018\/08\/03\/newsletters\/breaking_news.png","staticMarkupDir":" ","brandingDir":" ","brandingLink":" ","recaptchaSiteKey":"6LfD6CYUAAAAAIBeUekwZ9KCjF4UyLFtu7NWNaEK"}"> </div>  <div id="callout-end-of-story-mount"> </div>  <div id="callout-end-of-story-mount-piano-wrap" class="callout-end-of-story-mount-piano-wrap"> <div id="callout-end-of-story-mount-piano" class="callout-end-of-story-mount-piano"> </div>  </div>  <aside id="end-of-story-recommendations-mount" class="recommended-stories" aria-label="recommended stories"></aside>  </article><footer id="npr-footer" class="npr-footer" role="contentinfo" aria-label="NPR footer"><div class="npr-footer__content"> <div class="npr-footer__module-group"> <div class="npr-footer__module"> <h6 class="npr-footer__header">Read & Listen</h6> <ul> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/">Home</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/sections/news/">News</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/sections/culture/">Culture</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/music/">Music</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/podcasts-and-shows" >Podcasts & Shows</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="npr-footer__module"> <h6 class="npr-footer__header">Connect</h6> <ul> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/newsletters/" target='_blank'>Newsletters</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/NPR/" >Facebook</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/npr/">Instagram</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/press/">Press</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/sections/publiceditor/">Public Editor</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/corrections/">Corrections</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="https://help.npr.org/contact/s/">Contact & Help</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="npr-footer__module"> <h6 class="npr-footer__header">About NPR</h6> <ul> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/about/">Overview</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/diversity/">Diversity</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/network/" target="_blank">NPR Network</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/about-npr/1136563345/accessibility">Accessibility</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/ethics/">Ethics</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/about-npr/178660742/public-radio-finances">Finances</a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="npr-footer__module"> <h6 class="npr-footer__header">Get Involved</h6> <ul> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/support/">Support Public Radio</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/about-npr/186948703/corporate-sponsorship">Sponsor NPR</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/careers/">NPR Careers</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="https://shopnpr.org/">NPR Shop</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="https://www.nprpresents.org">NPR Events</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/sections/npr-extra/">NPR Extra</a></li> </ul> </div> </div> <div class="npr-footer__module npr-footer__module--secondary"> <ul> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/about-npr/179876898/terms-of-use">Terms of Use</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy">Privacy</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy#yourchoices">Your Privacy Choices</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><a href="https://text.npr.org/">Text Only</a></li> <li class="npr-footer__item"><span class="copy-year"></span></li> </ul> </div> </div> </footer><div id="global-stickybar-mount" class="global-stickybar-mount"> </div> <div id="global-stickybar-mount-piano-wrap" class="global-stickybar"> <div id="global-stickybar-mount-piano" class="global-stickybar-mount-piano"> </div> </div> </section> <div id="main-sidebar"> <aside id="ad-standard-wrap" class="ad-wrap standard" aria-label="advertisement"> <div id="ad-standard-podcasts_It_s_Been_a_Minute" class="ad-config ad-standard has-refresh-enabled" data-ad-config='{"network":"\/6735\/","site":{"desktop":"n6735.NPR","mobile":"n6735.NPRMOBILE"},"zone":"podcasts_It_s_Been_a_Minute","targets":{"testserver":"false","isPodcastEpisode":"true","storyId":"1214662557","orgId":"1"},"location":"standard","deferred":false,"isBetweenContent":false,"overflowCount":null,"hasRefreshEnabled":true,"isOutstreamVideoEnabled":false}'></div> <p class="left">Sponsor Message</p><p class="right"><a href="/about-npr/186948703/corporate-sponsorship">Become an NPR sponsor</a></p> </aside> </div>  </div>  <section id="global-modal-mount"></section>  <script type="text/javascript"> (function () { var loadPageJs = function () { (window.webpackJsonp=window.webpackJsonp||[]).push([[21],{1119:function(e,n,c){e.exports=c(307)},307:function(e,n,c){"use strict";c.p=NPR.serverVars.webpackPublicPath,Promise.all([c.e(1),c.e(2),c.e(3),c.e(91),c.e(73)]).then(function(e){c(3),c(1091),c(62),c(76),c(36),c(167),c(124),c(63),c(65),c(1092),c(85),c(1093),c(300),c(1094),c(75),c(1095)}.bind(null,c)).catch(c.oe)}},[[1119,0]]]); }; if (document.readyState === 'complete') { loadPageJs(); } else { window.addEventListener('load', function load() { window.removeEventListener('load', load, false); loadPageJs(); }); } })(); </script> </main></body></html>

CINXE.COM

Are UFOs real? And 'The Sexiest Man Alive' : It's Been a Minute : NPR