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wikis: ferramenta ou propostas? </h3> <div class='post-header'> <div class='post-header-line-1'></div> </div> <div class='post-body entry-content' id='post-body-3288631448756487221' itemprop='description articleBody'> 脌 primeira vista a resposta para a quest茫o acima parece simples.<br /><br />Um blog 茅 uma ferramenta que pertence a um ou mais autores, respons谩veis pela publica莽茫o dos posts cujo conte煤do pode ser complementado por coment谩rios de visitantes ou expandido por links repercutindo o tema.<br /><br />Um wiki, por outro lado, baseia-se na reda莽茫o coletiva de um texto, e ainda que seja um <a href="http://novasm.blogspot.com/2008/09/caminho-do-intercom-em-natal.html">espa莽o de intera莽玫es</a>, exige que <a href="http://novasm.blogspot.com/2008/09/police-act-review-ou-wikis-como.html">tente-se chegar a um consenso</a> sobre o tema em quest茫o, j谩 que n茫o faz sentido manter duas ou mais p谩ginas sobre o mesmo (茅 por isso que o <a href="http://novasm.blogspot.com/2008/07/knol-e-colaborao-moderada.html">Knol, por exemplo, pouco tem a ver com a Wikip茅dia</a>).<br /><br />Dois posts que li recentemente nos ajudam a questionar o "determinismo tecnol贸gico" que norteia os conceitos acima:<br /><br />O <a href="http://goosegrade.com/" target="_blank">GooseGrade,</a> apresentado pelo <a href="http://www.tiagodoria.ig.com.br/2008/10/06/blogs-com-edicao-aberta-ja-viu/">Tiago D贸ria</a>, 茅 um widget que, mediante cadastro, qualquer pessoa possa editar os posts de seu blog. O foco s茫o "pequenos" erros factuais, gramaticais ou de digita莽茫o, avisados ao autor via e-mail para aprova莽茫o ou n茫o. Podemos pensar num uso mais amplo e intenso, o que, como o pr贸prio Tiago observou, aproximaria o blog de um wiki. (O recurso j谩 pode ser acessado 脿 esquerda deste blog - fique 脿 vontade para propor edi莽玫es!)<br /><br />No <a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2008/10/10/wiki-journalism-comes-to-the-uk/">Online journalism Blog, Paul Bradshaw</a> contou a experi锚ncia do jornal brit芒nico Trinity Mirror, que lan莽ou um wiki (<a href="http://www.wikinortheast.co.uk/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.wikinortheast.co.uk');">wikinortheast.co.uk)</a> para "cobrir todos os aspectos" da regi茫o de North-East (ou seja, um <a href="http://novasm.blogspot.com/2008/01/esboos-sobre-hiperlocalismo.html">projeto hiperlocal</a>). Mas, na vis茫o de Bradshaw, h谩 um problema: "茅 muito dif铆cil encontrar algo para editar". V谩rios textos est茫o "prontos", sendo que alguns, retirados dos arquivos do jornal, simplesmente n茫o podem ser alterados. Resta ao usu谩rio adicionar, e n茫o editar o conte煤do. Resultado: "um h铆brido wiki-blog".<br /><br />Voltando 脿 quest茫o inicial: at茅 que ponto a ferramenta (pura e simplesmente) condiciona o funcionamento de um projeto na web? Abrir ou fechar, restingir ou liberar parecem-me cada vez menos associados 脿s condi莽玫es tecnol贸gicas e sim 脿s propostas comunicacionais.<br /><br />Concorda? <div style='clear: both;'></div> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='post-footer-line post-footer-line-1'> <span class='post-author vcard'> Postado por <span class='fn' itemprop='author' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/Person'> <meta content='https://www.blogger.com/profile/11009204993641997431' itemprop='url'/> <a class='g-profile' href='https://www.blogger.com/profile/11009204993641997431' rel='author' title='author profile'> <span itemprop='name'>Carlos d'Andr茅a</span> </a> </span> </span> <span class='post-timestamp'> 脿s <meta content='http://novasm.blogspot.com/2008/10/diferena-entre-blogs-e-wikis-ferramenta.html' itemprop='url'/> <a class='timestamp-link' href='http://novasm.blogspot.com/2008/10/diferena-entre-blogs-e-wikis-ferramenta.html' rel='bookmark' title='permanent link'><abbr class='published' itemprop='datePublished' title='2008-10-14T18:01:00-03:00'>6:01 PM</abbr></a> </span> <span class='post-comment-link'> </span> <span class='post-icons'> <span class='item-action'> <a href='https://www.blogger.com/email-post.g?blogID=14870423&postID=3288631448756487221' title='Enviar esta postagem'> <img alt='' class='icon-action' height='13' src='https://resources.blogblog.com/img/icon18_email.gif' width='18'/> </a> </span> <span class='item-control blog-admin pid-641648074'> <a href='https://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=14870423&postID=3288631448756487221&from=pencil' title='Editar postagem'> <img alt='' class='icon-action' height='18' src='https://resources.blogblog.com/img/icon18_edit_allbkg.gif' width='18'/> </a> </span> </span> <div class='post-share-buttons goog-inline-block'> <a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-email' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=14870423&postID=3288631448756487221&target=email' target='_blank' title='Enviar por e-mail'><span class='share-button-link-text'>Enviar por e-mail</span></a><a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-blog' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=14870423&postID=3288631448756487221&target=blog' onclick='window.open(this.href, "_blank", "height=270,width=475"); return false;' target='_blank' title='Postar no blog!'><span class='share-button-link-text'>Postar no blog!</span></a><a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-twitter' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=14870423&postID=3288631448756487221&target=twitter' target='_blank' title='Compartilhar no X'><span class='share-button-link-text'>Compartilhar no X</span></a><a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-facebook' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=14870423&postID=3288631448756487221&target=facebook' onclick='window.open(this.href, "_blank", "height=430,width=640"); return false;' target='_blank' title='Compartilhar no Facebook'><span class='share-button-link-text'>Compartilhar no Facebook</span></a><a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-pinterest' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=14870423&postID=3288631448756487221&target=pinterest' target='_blank' title='Compartilhar com o Pinterest'><span class='share-button-link-text'>Compartilhar com o Pinterest</span></a> </div> </div> <div class='post-footer-line post-footer-line-2'> <span class='post-labels'> Marcadores: <a href='http://novasm.blogspot.com/search/label/blog' rel='tag'>blog</a>, <a href='http://novasm.blogspot.com/search/label/wiki' rel='tag'>wiki</a> </span> </div> <div class='post-footer-line post-footer-line-3'> <span class='post-location'> </span> </div> </div> </div> <div class='comments' id='comments'> <a name='comments'></a> <h4>3 coment谩rios:</h4> <div id='Blog1_comments-block-wrapper'> <dl class='avatar-comment-indent' id='comments-block'> <dt class='comment-author ' id='c3316200890999883775'> <a name='c3316200890999883775'></a> <div class="avatar-image-container avatar-stock"><span dir="ltr"><img src="//resources.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif" width="35" height="35" alt="" title="Anônimo"> </span></div> An么nimo disse... </dt> <dd class='comment-body' id='Blog1_cmt-3316200890999883775'> <p> Oi Carlos!<BR/>Eu tenho me interessado muito pelos wikis. Eu os vejo como uma ferramenta poderosa para o trabalho colaborativo, para a elabora莽茫o de conte煤dos de forma colaborativa. Muito mais do que os blogs que acabam sendo, mesmo com os coment谩rios, espa莽os pessoais. Ou no caso de mais um autor, o espa莽o de um determinado grupo. O Tiago D贸ria abre essa possibilidade mas 茅 o espa莽o 茅 dele, 茅 dele - e s贸 dele, a palavra final, a aprova莽茫o ou n茫o do que seria modificado. <BR/>J谩 os wikis, se abertos 脿 colabora莽茫o de qualquer pessoa, podem ser um espa莽o realmente coletivo, as decis玫es devem ser coletivas...<BR/>Lancei, numa lista de discuss茫o de professores, a proposta de um wiki para a elabora莽茫o de um reposit贸rio de materiais e recursos que poderiam ser interessantes para projetos e atividades educacionais. Poucos se inscreveram como colaboradores... mas muitos acessam o wiki em busca de material. <BR/>Penso que pode ser uma quest茫o cultural: somos muito mais consumidores do que produtores, sabe como 茅?<BR/>Tenho c谩 pra mim que a diferen莽a est谩 muito mais no "esp铆rito" do recurso.<BR/>Seu post me animou a escrever um pouco sobre as diferen莽as l谩 no meu blog! quem sabe se amanh茫, eu consigo um tempo pra isso!<BR/>Ab莽o </p> </dd> <dd class='comment-footer'> <span class='comment-timestamp'> <a href='http://novasm.blogspot.com/2008/10/diferena-entre-blogs-e-wikis-ferramenta.html?showComment=1224029040000#c3316200890999883775' title='comment permalink'> 9:04 PM </a> <span class='item-control blog-admin pid-1843488340'> <a class='comment-delete' href='https://www.blogger.com/delete-comment.g?blogID=14870423&postID=3316200890999883775' title='Excluir coment谩rio'> <img src='https://resources.blogblog.com/img/icon_delete13.gif'/> </a> </span> </span> </dd> <dt class='comment-author blog-author' id='c7115170252878782206'> <a name='c7115170252878782206'></a> <div class="avatar-image-container vcard"><span dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.blogger.com/profile/11009204993641997431" target="" rel="nofollow" onclick="" class="avatar-hovercard" id="av-7115170252878782206-11009204993641997431"><img src="https://resources.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif" width="35" height="35" class="delayLoad" style="display: none;" longdesc="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhsug2hQtZOdpUYLkiV-OJ_18kloNiuN8bUQyK2C_unCkVRkj2P36_hU7f4mZ0B4li7AMVijvdPPW1c-KE73hyo_Ur9CcuHsjHFbkPOG2izVmzXs3E-U79imGZX4MrWmw/s45-c/fotocarlosdand_hipertexto2.jpg" alt="" title="Carlos d&#39;Andréa"> <noscript><img src="//blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhsug2hQtZOdpUYLkiV-OJ_18kloNiuN8bUQyK2C_unCkVRkj2P36_hU7f4mZ0B4li7AMVijvdPPW1c-KE73hyo_Ur9CcuHsjHFbkPOG2izVmzXs3E-U79imGZX4MrWmw/s45-c/fotocarlosdand_hipertexto2.jpg" width="35" height="35" class="photo" alt=""></noscript></a></span></div> <a href='https://www.blogger.com/profile/11009204993641997431' rel='nofollow'>Carlos d'Andr茅a</a> disse... </dt> <dd class='comment-body' id='Blog1_cmt-7115170252878782206'> <p> Ol谩, Mirian,<BR/>obrigado pela visita e pelo coment谩rio cuidadoso no blog. Concordo que "somos muito mais consumidores do que produtores", acho inclusive importante que seja assim, mas acho tb que gostamos mais de falar que de ouvir, da铆 a dificuldade de usar uma ferramenta t茫o processual como os wikis. Voc锚 conhece a lista edublogosfera? Algumas discuss玫es interessantes t锚m acontecido por l谩. Abs, Carlos </p> </dd> <dd class='comment-footer'> <span class='comment-timestamp'> <a href='http://novasm.blogspot.com/2008/10/diferena-entre-blogs-e-wikis-ferramenta.html?showComment=1224091320000#c7115170252878782206' title='comment permalink'> 2:22 PM </a> <span class='item-control blog-admin pid-641648074'> <a class='comment-delete' href='https://www.blogger.com/delete-comment.g?blogID=14870423&postID=7115170252878782206' title='Excluir coment谩rio'> <img src='https://resources.blogblog.com/img/icon_delete13.gif'/> </a> </span> </span> </dd> <dt class='comment-author ' id='c6445650391162510382'> <a name='c6445650391162510382'></a> <div class="avatar-image-container avatar-stock"><span dir="ltr"><img src="//resources.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif" width="35" height="35" alt="" title="Anônimo"> </span></div> An么nimo disse... </dt> <dd class='comment-body' id='Blog1_cmt-6445650391162510382'> <p> Prezado Carlos<br />Boa noite<br /><br />Buscando me inteirar da diferen莽a entre blog e wiki deparei-me com o seu blog que fala das wikis rsrs.<br />Tenho que criar uma wiki, inicialmente com uma colega, e n茫o sei como proceder.<br />Voc锚 pode me ajudar???<br />Perdoe-me!!!<br />Att<br />Edna<br />meu e-mail ednaaguia@bol.com.br </p> </dd> <dd class='comment-footer'> <span class='comment-timestamp'> <a href='http://novasm.blogspot.com/2008/10/diferena-entre-blogs-e-wikis-ferramenta.html?showComment=1335834099499#c6445650391162510382' title='comment permalink'> 10:01 PM </a> <span class='item-control blog-admin pid-1843488340'> <a class='comment-delete' href='https://www.blogger.com/delete-comment.g?blogID=14870423&postID=6445650391162510382' title='Excluir coment谩rio'> <img src='https://resources.blogblog.com/img/icon_delete13.gif'/> </a> </span> </span> </dd> </dl> </div> <p class='comment-footer'> <a href='https://www.blogger.com/comment/fullpage/post/14870423/3288631448756487221' onclick='javascript:window.open(this.href, "bloggerPopup", 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