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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Ganesha811-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Discuss_this_story-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ganesha811-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z-Discuss_this_story","c-Jr8825-2021-07-23T00:01:00.000Z-Discuss_this_story"],"uneditableSection":true,"text":"Discuss this story","linkableTitle":"Discuss this story"}--></div></div></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ganesha811-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z-Discuss_this_story"></span>Thank you Mike for this clear report. Look forward to reading future discussion reports from you. <a href="/wiki/User:Ganesha811" title="User:Ganesha811">Ganesha811</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ganesha811" title="User talk:Ganesha811">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2021-06-27/Discussion_report#c-Ganesha811-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z-Discuss_this_story" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:15, 27 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ganesha811-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z-Discuss_this_story"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z","author":"Ganesha811","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ganesha811-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z-Discuss_this_story","replies":["c-Mikehawk10-2021-06-28T05:21:00.000Z-Ganesha811-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ganesha811-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z-Discuss_this_story"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="nowrap"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mikehawk10-2021-06-28T05:21:00.000Z-Ganesha811-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z"></span>'<i><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> <b>Thank you'</b></i></span>for the kind comments! I'm happy to be a contributor and I look forward to producing future reports. — <a href="/wiki/User:Mikehawk10" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Mikehawk10">Mikehawk10</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mikehawk10" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Mikehawk10">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2021-06-27/Discussion_report#c-Mikehawk10-2021-06-28T05:21:00.000Z-Ganesha811-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mikehawk10-2021-06-28T05:21:00.000Z-Ganesha811-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-28T05:21:00.000Z","author":"Mikehawk10","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mikehawk10-2021-06-28T05:21:00.000Z-Ganesha811-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nosebagbear-2021-06-28T10:30:00.000Z-Mikehawk10-2021-06-28T05:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mikehawk10-2021-06-28T05:21:00.000Z-Ganesha811-2021-06-27T23:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nosebagbear-2021-06-28T10:30:00.000Z-Mikehawk10-2021-06-28T05:21:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Mikehawk10" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Mikehawk10">Mikehawk10</a>:</span> as someone who clearly knows more about the field, is there a reason this is particularly key - as an inherently primary source, but mainly covering controversial topics, how much use was it likely to get? <a href="/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nosebagbear" title="User talk:Nosebagbear">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2021-06-27/Discussion_report#c-Nosebagbear-2021-06-28T10:30:00.000Z-Mikehawk10-2021-06-28T05:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:30, 28 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nosebagbear-2021-06-28T10:30:00.000Z-Mikehawk10-2021-06-28T05:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-28T10:30:00.000Z","author":"Nosebagbear","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nosebagbear-2021-06-28T10:30:00.000Z-Mikehawk10-2021-06-28T05:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nosebagbear-2021-06-28T10:30:00.000Z-Mikehawk10-2021-06-28T05:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jr8825-2021-07-23T00:01:00.000Z-Discuss_this_story"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nosebagbear" title="User:Nosebagbear">Nosebagbear</a>:</span> Sorry for the delay in my response. As you say, it's inherently a primary source that is used in covering controversial topics, and it's currently used <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%22wikileaks.org%22&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go&ns0=1">currently</a> used in just under eleven-hundred articles despite being marked as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GUNREL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GUNREL">WP:GUNREL</a> at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RSP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RSP">WP:RSP</a>. It's awaiting a close (I assume it will be an admin close), but I would expect it to be consequential considering its relatively wide current use should guidance on using the source change.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>This is admittedly a late comment, but thanks for the write-up, <a href="/wiki/User:Mikehawk10" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Mikehawk10">Mikehawk10</a>. I hope you're doing well and that you'll be back again soon. The discussions at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Uyghur_genocide" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Uyghur genocide">Talk:Uyghur genocide</a> have been poorer for your absence over the last few weeks and I for one have sorely missed your input. <a href="/wiki/User:Jr8825" title="User:Jr8825"><span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS'; color:#6F0000;">Jr8825</span></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jr8825" title="User talk:Jr8825"><span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS'; color:#4682B4;">Talk</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2021-06-27/Discussion_report#c-Jr8825-2021-07-23T00:01:00.000Z-Discuss_this_story" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:01, 23 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jr8825-2021-07-23T00:01:00.000Z-Discuss_this_story"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-07-23T00:01:00.000Z","author":"Jr8825","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jr8825-2021-07-23T00:01:00.000Z-Discuss_this_story","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jr8825-2021-07-23T00:01:00.000Z-Discuss_this_story"></span></li></ul> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐5b4c46c98‐gb4dq Cached time: 20241204172230 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.009 seconds CPU time usage: 0.081 seconds Real time usage: 0.106 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 62/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 1393/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 40/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 9/100 Expensive parser function count: 0/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 3662/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.004/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 630800/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 68.114 1 -total 62.95% 42.875 1 Wikipedia:Signpost/Template:Signpost-article-comments-end/commentspage 26.98% 18.375 1 Template:Ping 7.98% 5.436 1 Template:Is_time 5.11% 3.484 1 Template:U 4.51% 3.074 1 Template:Re --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:68064368:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241204172230 and revision id 1136015410. 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