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margin: 0 0 0.5em 0.5em; text-align:left; border: 1px solid #76923c; width:175px;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="font-size: 95%; text-align:center; color:white; background-color:#76923c"><b>It's gettin' hot in here</b><br /><a href="/wiki/Global_warming" class="mw-redirect" title="Global warming"><font size="4" color="white"><b>Global warming</b></font></a> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="background-color:#FFFFFF;" align="center"><a href="/wiki/Category:Global_warming" title="Category:Global warming"><img alt="Globalwarming2.svg" src="/w/images/thumb/b/ba/Globalwarming2.svg/100px-Globalwarming2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" srcset="/w/images/thumb/b/ba/Globalwarming2.svg/150px-Globalwarming2.svg.png 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/b/ba/Globalwarming2.svg/200px-Globalwarming2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="195" data-file-height="195" /></a> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="font-size: 95%; color:white; background-color:#76923c; text-align:center;"><b>Feverish dreams</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="font-size: 95%; background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Climategate" title="Climategate">Climategate</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Denialgate" title="Denialgate">Denialgate</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Ethical_oil" title="Ethical oil">Ethical oil</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Leakegate" title="Leakegate">Leakegate</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wegman_Report" title="Wegman Report">Wegman Report</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Yamal_controversy" title="Yamal controversy">Yamal controversy</a></li></ul> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="font-size: 95%; color:white; background-color:#76923c; text-align:center;"><b>Hot-headed goons</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="font-size: 95%; background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Marc_Morano" title="Marc Morano">Marc Morano</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Thomas_Sowell" title="Thomas Sowell">Thomas Sowell</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Lauren_Southern" title="Lauren Southern">Lauren Southern</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/RenewAmerica" title="RenewAmerica">RenewAmerica</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Michael_Knowles" title="Michael Knowles">Michael Knowles</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Dwight_Lundell" title="Dwight Lundell">Dwight Lundell</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Lotus_Eaters" title="Lotus Eaters">Lotus Eaters</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/The_Conservative_Woman" title="The Conservative Woman">The Conservative Woman</a></li></ul> <div class="vte plainlinks" style="font-size:smaller; text-align:center;"><a href="/wiki/Template:Globalwarmingnav" title="Template:Globalwarmingnav">v</a> - <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Globalwarmingnav" title="Template talk:Globalwarmingnav">t</a> - <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Globalwarmingnav&amp;action=edit">e</a></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><b>Timothy Francis "Tim" Ball</b><sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1">&#91;1&#93;</a></sup> (1938–2022) was a <a href="/wiki/Credentials" class="mw-redirect" title="Credentials">credential-fudging</a> <a href="/wiki/Denialist" class="mw-redirect" title="Denialist">denialist</a> <a href="/wiki/Crank" title="Crank">crank</a>. He had no relevant <a href="/wiki/Credentials" class="mw-redirect" title="Credentials">credentials</a> on climate change. </p> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Credential_fudging_and_climate_denial"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Credential fudging and climate denial</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Creationism"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Creationism</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Lawsuits_turning_around_and_kicking_Ball"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Lawsuits turning around and kicking Ball</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#See_also"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">See also</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#External_links"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">External links</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#References"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">References</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Credential_fudging_and_climate_denial">Credential fudging and climate denial</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Tim_Ball&amp;action=edit&amp;section=1" title="Edit section: Credential fudging and climate denial">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Ball was a professor of geography with a focus in historical climate who retired in 1996, but has been represented in the <a href="/wiki/Media" title="Media">media</a> as a "climatologist" (<a href="/wiki/Canada" title="Canada">Canada</a>'s first, don'tcha know?) who has held a professorship for upward of twenty-eight years. However, he carefully <i>omits</i> this in his <i>curriculum vitae</i>.<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2">&#91;2&#93;</a></sup> When the <i>Calgary Herald</i> published a letter<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-3">&#91;3&#93;</a></sup> that questioned the credentials listed for Ball (in an article in which Ball attacked <a href="/wiki/Tim_Flannery" title="Tim Flannery">Tim Flannery</a><sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-4">&#91;4&#93;</a></sup>). Ball sued for libel, while admitting that he had not been a professor for twenty-eight years.<sup id="cite_ref-5" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-5">&#91;5&#93;</a></sup> (Don't think too hard about that or it might make your head hurt.) Before the suit was dropped (against 3 defendants), Tim Lambert of <a href="/wiki/ScienceBlogs" title="ScienceBlogs">Deltoid</a> dared Ball to sue him, too.<sup id="cite_ref-6" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-6">&#91;6&#93;</a></sup> Lambert also expressed doubt over the relevance of Ball's research: </p> <table style="margin: auto; border-collapse:collapse; border-style:none; background-color:transparent;" class="cquote"> <tbody><tr> <td><div style="padding:4px 50px;position:relative;"><span style="position:absolute;left:10px;top:-6px;z-index:1;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif;font-weight:bold;color:#B2B7F2;font-size:36px">“</span><span style="position:absolute;right:10px;bottom:-20px;z-index:1;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif;font-weight:bold;color:#B2B7F2;font-size:36px">”</span>However, hardly any of those 51 publications are in scientific journals but include things like gardening magazines. I looked in Web of Science and could only find four papers by Ball, all on historical climatology, none on climate and atmosphere. I don't see how Ball can possibly win his case, but I guess that's not the point.<sup id="cite_ref-7" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-7">&#91;7&#93;</a></sup></div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p>Eli Rabett has created the "Tim Ball Award for Resume Stretching" in his honor.<sup id="cite_ref-8" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-8">&#91;8&#93;</a></sup> </p><p>Even within the deniosphere, Ball didn't come up with anything new or impressive. All he did was constantly repeat <a href="/wiki/PRATT" class="mw-redirect" title="PRATT">points refuted a thousand times</a> about solar cycles and how <a href="/wiki/CO2_is_Green" title="CO2 is Green">carbon dioxide is plant food</a>. For example, take a look at his ingenious "refutation" of rising sea levels where he <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/01/18/tim-ball-and-archimedes-princi/">just puts some ice cubes in a glass and lets them melt.</a> </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Creationism">Creationism</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Tim_Ball&amp;action=edit&amp;section=2" title="Edit section: Creationism">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>Ball also seems to have been a <a href="/wiki/Creationist" class="mw-redirect" title="Creationist">creationist</a> of some sort. In an op-ed in <a href="/wiki/Canada_Free_Press" title="Canada Free Press">Canada Free Press</a>, he wrote: </p> <table style="margin: auto; border-collapse:collapse; border-style:none; background-color:transparent;" class="cquote"> <tbody><tr> <td><div style="padding:4px 50px;position:relative;"><span style="position:absolute;left:10px;top:-6px;z-index:1;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif;font-weight:bold;color:#B2B7F2;font-size:36px">“</span><span style="position:absolute;right:10px;bottom:-20px;z-index:1;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif;font-weight:bold;color:#B2B7F2;font-size:36px">”</span>Even though it is still <a href="/wiki/Just_a_theory#Common_misconceptions_about_theories" class="mw-redirect" title="Just a theory"> just a theory and not a law</a> 148 years after it was first proposed, Darwinian evolution is the only view allowed in schools. Why? <a href="/wiki/Psychological_projection" title="Psychological projection">Such censorship suggests fear of other ideas, a measure of indefensibility</a>.<sup id="cite_ref-9" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-9">&#91;9&#93;</a></sup></div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p>On his website, he attacked <a href="/wiki/Richard_Dawkins" title="Richard Dawkins">Richard Dawkins</a> and claimed <a href="/wiki/Science" title="Science">science</a>, <a href="/wiki/Evolution" title="Evolution">evolution</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Environmentalism" title="Environmentalism">environmentalism</a> are <a href="/wiki/Secular_religion" class="mw-redirect" title="Secular religion">religions</a>. He also believed that the <a href="/wiki/Bible" title="Bible">Bible</a>'s predictions have been just as verified as those made by science: </p> <table style="margin: auto; border-collapse:collapse; border-style:none; background-color:transparent;" class="cquote"> <tbody><tr> <td><div style="padding:4px 50px;position:relative;"><span style="position:absolute;left:10px;top:-6px;z-index:1;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif;font-weight:bold;color:#B2B7F2;font-size:36px">“</span><span style="position:absolute;right:10px;bottom:-20px;z-index:1;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif;font-weight:bold;color:#B2B7F2;font-size:36px">”</span>Perhaps the ultimate irony<sup id="cite_ref-10" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-10">&#91;10&#93;</a></sup> is that the biblical views on nature, human roles and responsibilities are as logical as any other including modern environmentalism.<sup id="cite_ref-11" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-11">&#91;11&#93;</a></sup></div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <p>When you take his global warming denialism together with creationism and his admiration for <a href="/wiki/Immanuel_Velikovsky" title="Immanuel Velikovsky">Immanuel Velikovsky</a>,<sup id="cite_ref-12" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-12">&#91;12&#93;</a></sup> there's clear evidence for <a href="/wiki/Crank_magnetism" title="Crank magnetism">crank magnetism</a>. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="Lawsuits_turning_around_and_kicking_Ball">Lawsuits turning around and kicking Ball</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Tim_Ball&amp;action=edit&amp;section=3" title="Edit section: Lawsuits turning around and kicking Ball">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <p>In 2011, Ball found himself at the receiving end of a couple of libel suits. In February, University of Victoria climatologist (and now a member of the British Columbia legislature) Andrew Weaver filed a lawsuit against Ball for his op-eds that <a href="/wiki/PIDOOMA" title="PIDOOMA">accused</a> Weaver of incompetence and corruption. In March, Penn State climatologist <a href="/wiki/Michael_Mann" title="Michael Mann">Michael Mann</a> filed a lawsuit against Ball and his <a href="/wiki/Think_tank" title="Think tank">think tank</a> for publishing statements on their websites that claimed Mann was complicit in a "<a href="/wiki/Cover-up" class="mw-redirect" title="Cover-up">cover-up</a>" of <a href="/wiki/Climategate" title="Climategate">Climategate</a> and that he had committed scientific fraud.<sup id="cite_ref-13" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-13">&#91;13&#93;</a></sup> </p><p>Since the suits were launched Canada Free Press has retracted one of the interviews with Ball on the website.<sup id="cite_ref-14" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-14">&#91;14&#93;</a></sup> Furthermore, they seem to have scrubbed a good deal of Ball's articles and Ball-related material.<sup id="cite_ref-15" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-15">&#91;15&#93;</a></sup> </p><p>In February, 2018, the suit by Weaver was dismissed on the grounds that Ball's attack on Weaver was so stupid and inept that it couldn't be considered libelous thus doing no injury to Weaver's reputation to an informed reader. <sup id="cite_ref-16" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-16">&#91;16&#93;</a></sup> Therefore the official judgement of the Canadian court system is that Tim Ball is either an incompetent idiot or someone pretending to be an incompetent idiot. </p><p>In August 2019, the Supreme Court of British Columbia dismissed the suit against Ball by Micheal Mann for technical reasons,<sup id="cite_ref-17" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-17">&#91;17&#93;</a></sup> despite the rantings of climate denialists<sup id="cite_ref-18" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-18">&#91;18&#93;</a></sup> that claim this is a victory for Ball's pseudoscience. </p> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="See_also">See also</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Tim_Ball&amp;action=edit&amp;section=4" title="Edit section: See also">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <ul><li>Appears in <a href="/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle" title="The Great Global Warming Swindle">The Great Global Warming Swindle</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Friends_of_Science" title="Friends of Science">Friends of Science</a></li></ul> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="External_links">External links</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Tim_Ball&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5" title="Edit section: External links">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://drtimball.com/">Ball's site</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.friendsofscience.org/">"Friends" of "Science"</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/category/global_warming/timball/">Deltoid</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://deepclimate.org/tag/friends-of-science/">Deep Climate</a>, and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.desmogblog.com/tim-ball">DeSmog Blog</a> have categories for his <a href="/wiki/Bullshit" title="Bullshit">bullshit</a>. (Yeah, he's that bad.)</li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.straight.com/article-67107/trust-us-were-the-media">Trust Us, We're the Media</a>, Mitchell Anderson</li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.gamegecko.com/game/498/tim-ball-pinball">Play a game of TimBall.</a> (No actual relation to Tim Ball.)</li></ul> <h2><span class="mw-headline" id="References">References</span><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Tim_Ball&amp;action=edit&amp;section=6" title="Edit section: References">edit</a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></h2> <div class="references-small" style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2; font-size:80%;"> <div class="mw-references-wrap mw-references-columns"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-1">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text">Not to be confused with <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.bartel.org/calvinball/">Calvinball</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-2"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-2">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://drtimball.com/_files/dr-tim-ball-CV.pdf">Tim Ball's CV</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-3"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-3">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2006/09/tim_ball_sues_for_325000.php">Tim Ball Sues for $325,000</a>, Deltoid</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-4"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-4">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www2.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=d622e9fa-cdc8-4163-8292-a1a554f58f94">"Aussies' Suzuki heavier on rhetoric than on science" Ball's original letter</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-5"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-5">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.desmogblog.com/tim-ball-vs-dan-johnson-lawsuit-documents">Tim Ball vs. Dan Johnson lawsuit documents</a> archived at DeSmog Blog</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-6"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-6">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2006/06/dear_tim_ball_sue_me.php">Dear Tim Ball: Sue Me</a>, Deltoid</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-7"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-7">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2006/09/tim_ball_sues_for_325000.php">Tim Ball Sues for $325,000</a>, Deltoid</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-8"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-8">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://rabett.blogspot.com/2008/12/he-has-another-list.html">The Tim Ball Nominees</a>, Eli Rabett</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-9"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-9">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.uncommondescent.com/evolution/timothy-ball-still-just-a-theory/">Still Just a Theory</a>, Ball in Canada Free Press (via <a href="/wiki/Uncommon_Descent" title="Uncommon Descent">Uncommon Descent</a>)</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-10"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-10">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-11"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-11">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://drtimball.com/2011/lack-of-logic-from-those-who-claim-to-be-logical/">"Logic from Those Who Claim to be Logical"</a>, Tim Ball</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-12"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-12">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://drtimball.com/2011/scientific-reaction-to-velikovsky-symptomatic-of-climate-science-debacle/">"Scientific Reaction to Velikovsky Symptomatic of Climate Science Debate"</a>, Tim Ball</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-13"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-13">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.desmogblog.com/weaver-sues-tim-ball-libel">Weaver v. Ball</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.desmogblog.com/michael-mann-suing-tim-ball-libel">Mann v. Ball</a> lawsuit documents archived at DeSmog Blog.</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-14"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-14">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://carbonfixated.com/more-libel-troubles-for-tim-ball/">More libel troubles for Tim Ball</a>, Carbon Fixated</span> </li> <li id="cite_note-15"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-15">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/members/1/Ball/">No columns are currently listed under Ball's profile at the website.</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/2007-ball-harris.htm">his archives redirect to the homepage.</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-16"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-16">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/02/judge-finds-written-attack-on-climate-scientist-too-ludicrous-to-be-libel/">Judge Finds Written Attack on Climate Scientist Too Ludicrous to be Libel</a></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-17"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-17">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/8/28/1881956/-Tim-Ball-Pleads-For-Mercy-As-An-Irrelevant-Sick-Old-Man-Gets-It-Declares-Victory">Tim Ball Pleads For Mercy As An Irrelevant Sick Old Man, Gets It, Declares Victory</a>. Daily Kos, 28 August 2019. <blockquote class="letter" style="width:auto; background:#f8f8ff; border:1px solid #C9C9CF;"> <p>[...]the court dismissed the case on the basis that it has dragged on and been delayed for so long. Ball requested a ruling based on the timing instead of merits to allow the court avoid the messiness of whether or not his attacks on Mann’s climate science were valid. Now Mann (and his lawyers) have a month to decide if they’d like to appeal. </p> </blockquote></span> </li> <li id="cite_note-18"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-18">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://principia-scientific.org/breaking-news-dr-tim-ball-defeats-michael-manns-climate-lawsuit/">Breaking News: Dr Tim Ball Defeats Michael Mann’s Climate Lawsuit!</a> principia-scientific.org, 23 August 2019.</span> </li> </ol></div></div> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by apache5 Cached time: 20250331140906 Cache expiry: 86400 Dynamic content: false Complications: [] CPU time usage: 0.053 seconds Real time usage: 0.120 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 556/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 7678/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 2452/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 10/40 Expensive parser function count: 0/100 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 7999/5000000 bytes --> <!-- 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