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Sections older than <b>90 days</b> may be automatically archived by <span class="nowraplinks"><a href="/wiki/User:ClueBot_III" title="User:ClueBot III">ClueBot III</a></span> when more than 5 sections are present.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Why_redirect_from_social_infrastructure?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_redirect_from_social_infrastructure?-2009-11-17T11:13:00.000Z"><span id="Why_redirect_from_social_infrastructure.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_redirect_from_social_infrastructure?-2009-11-17T11:13:00.000Z"></span>Why redirect from social infrastructure?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_redirect_from_social_infrastructure?-2009-11-17T11:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Superstructure&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Why redirect from social infrastructure?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ginstrom-2009-11-17T11:13:00.000Z-Why_redirect_from_social_infrastructure?"></span>Why would "social infrastructure" redirect to this page? <a href="/wiki/User:Ginstrom" title="User:Ginstrom">Ginstrom</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ginstrom" title="User talk:Ginstrom">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Ginstrom-2009-11-17T11:13:00.000Z-Why_redirect_from_social_infrastructure?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ginstrom-2009-11-17T11:13:00.000Z-Why_redirect_from_social_infrastructure?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ginstrom-2009-11-17T11:13:00.000Z-Why_redirect_from_social_infrastructure?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hans_Adler-2009-11-17T11:45:00.000Z-Ginstrom-2009-11-17T11:13:00.000Z"></span>First answer: Because of <a href="/wiki/Superstructure#Social_sciences" title="Superstructure">Superstructure#Social sciences</a>. But I guess you knew this.</dd> <dd>This article doesn't seem to follow our usual standards for dealing with ambiguous titles. I am not 100% sure if the engineering meaning is the dominating one, but it appears to be. On that basis, everything unrelated to engineering should not be discussed here but elsewhere, and be linked to by means of a disambiguation note. I will fix this now for the mathematics and Marxism meanings, which is simple because the articles already exist. Perhaps you can identify the correct article for discussing social infrastructure and/or superstructure in the social sciences, or create one if necessary. Perhaps ask <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOCIOLOGY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOCIOLOGY">WP:SOCIOLOGY</a>, or whatever is the relevant WikiProject for help? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hans_Adler&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hans Adler (page does not exist)">Hans</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hans_Adler" title="User talk:Hans Adler">Adler</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Hans_Adler-2009-11-17T11:45:00.000Z-Ginstrom-2009-11-17T11:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:45, 17 November 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hans_Adler-2009-11-17T11:45:00.000Z-Ginstrom-2009-11-17T11:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hans_Adler-2009-11-17T11:45:00.000Z-Ginstrom-2009-11-17T11:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Split_needed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Split_needed-2010-04-19T17:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Split_needed-2010-04-19T17:52:00.000Z"></span>Split needed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Split_needed-2010-04-19T17:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Superstructure&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Split needed"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2010-04-19T17:52:00.000Z-Split_needed"></span>This should be either a disambig page, or a page about superstructure in engineering, with a dis note to other uses. Thoughts? --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span></a></span></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Piotrus-2010-04-19T17:52:00.000Z-Split_needed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 19 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2010-04-19T17:52:00.000Z-Split_needed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2010-04-19T17:52:00.000Z-Split_needed"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:03:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-04-19T17:52:00.000Z"></span>We don't need a split so much as simply removing everything that isn't engineering – because that's already discussed elsewhere. I will just do it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hans_Adler&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hans Adler (page does not exist)">Hans</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hans_Adler" title="User talk:Hans Adler">Adler</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:03:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-04-19T17:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 19 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:03:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-04-19T17:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:03:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-04-19T17:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2010-04-19T18:18:00.000Z-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:03:00.000Z"></span>We can merge the social content into <a href="/wiki/Base_and_superstructure" title="Base and superstructure">base and superstructure</a>. That will transform this article into <a href="/wiki/Superstructure_(engineering)" class="mw-redirect" title="Superstructure (engineering)">Superstructure (engineering)</a>. I suggest that this article is moved to that title, and a new disambig created in its place. --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span></a></span></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Piotrus-2010-04-19T18:18:00.000Z-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2010-04-19T18:18:00.000Z-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2010-04-19T18:18:00.000Z-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:28:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-04-19T18:18:00.000Z"></span>Or we just leave it here. The overwhelming number of incoming links was for the engineering topic. I have just finished redirected everything else to <a href="/wiki/Base_and_superstructure" title="Base and superstructure">base and superstructure</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hans_Adler&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hans Adler (page does not exist)">Hans</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hans_Adler" title="User talk:Hans Adler">Adler</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:28:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-04-19T18:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:28, 19 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:28:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-04-19T18:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:28:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-04-19T18:18:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:42:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-04-19T18:18:00.000Z"></span>I have done the split and also removed the WikiProject Sociology. While doing that, I noticed it said "Importance: High". Given the state of the article I find that hard to take seriously, and in any case <a href="/wiki/Superstructure_(sociology)" class="mw-redirect" title="Superstructure (sociology)">superstructure (sociology)</a> can still be created if necessary. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Hans_Adler&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Hans Adler (page does not exist)">Hans</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hans_Adler" title="User talk:Hans Adler">Adler</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:42:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-04-19T18:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 19 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:42:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-04-19T18:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:42:00.000Z-Piotrus-2010-04-19T18:18:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2010-04-19T19:13:00.000Z-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:42:00.000Z"></span>Sounds good. --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><span style="color:#7CFC00; background:#006400;"> talk </span></a></span></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Piotrus-2010-04-19T19:13:00.000Z-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 19 April 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2010-04-19T19:13:00.000Z-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2010-04-19T19:13:00.000Z-Hans_Adler-2010-04-19T18:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_move" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"></span>Requested move<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Superstructure&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Requested move"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate" style="background-color: #efe; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px dotted #aaa;"> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-07T16:41:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span>The following discussion is an archived discussion of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. </i></dd></dl> <p>The result of the move request was: <b>withdrawn</b> per nominator. <a href="/wiki/User:ErikHaugen" title="User:ErikHaugen">ErikHaugen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ErikHaugen" title="User talk:ErikHaugen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-07T16:41:00.000Z-Requested_move" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-07T16:41:00.000Z-Requested_move"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-07T16:41:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><a href="/wiki/Superstructure" title="Superstructure"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span>Superstructure</a> → <a href="/wiki/Superstructure_(civil_engineering)" class="mw-redirect" title="Superstructure (civil engineering)">Superstructure (civil engineering)</a> — Disambig needed. Superstructure in physics is also quite important. <a href="/wiki/User:Marie_Poise" title="User:Marie Poise">Marie Poise</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marie_Poise" title="User talk:Marie Poise">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z-Requested_move" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z-Requested_move"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Marie_Poise/Superstructure" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="User:Marie Poise/Superstructure"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-04T20:20:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"></span>User:Marie_Poise/Superstructure</a> → <a href="/wiki/Superstructure" title="Superstructure">Superstructure</a></li> <li><b>Oppose</b> - I think that while the other meanings are important, when it comes to what readers are likely to be looking for they are a distant second to the subject of this page. If that is true, then per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PT" class="mw-disambig" title="Wikipedia:PT">WP:PT</a> this article should sit here. I'd like to move <a href="/wiki/User:Marie_Poise/Superstructure" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="User:Marie Poise/Superstructure">User:Marie_Poise/Superstructure</a> to <a href="/wiki/Superstructure_(disambiguation)" class="mw-disambig" title="Superstructure (disambiguation)">Superstructure (disambiguation)</a> and adjust the hatnote here accordingly. <a href="/wiki/User:ErikHaugen" title="User:ErikHaugen">ErikHaugen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ErikHaugen" title="User talk:ErikHaugen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-04T20:20:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:20, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-04T20:20:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-04T20:20:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T21:40:00.000Z-ErikHaugen-2010-11-04T20:20:00.000Z"></span>This depends very much on whether you are an engineer, a scientist, or a philosopher. Google scholar: hits #1 and #3-6,8-10 go to <a href="/wiki/Superstructure_(condensed_matter)" title="Superstructure (condensed matter)">superstructure (condensed matter)</a>, #2 goes to <a href="/wiki/Base_and_superstructure" title="Base and superstructure">base and superstructure</a>, #7 is an astrophysical analogue of <a href="/wiki/Superstructure_(condensed_matter)" title="Superstructure (condensed matter)">superstructure (condensed matter)</a>. <a href="/wiki/Superstructure_(engineering)" class="mw-redirect" title="Superstructure (engineering)">Superstructure (engineering)</a> seems of little importance for scholars. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marie_Poise" title="User:Marie Poise">Marie Poise</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marie_Poise" title="User talk:Marie Poise">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T21:40:00.000Z-ErikHaugen-2010-11-04T20:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:40, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T21:40:00.000Z-ErikHaugen-2010-11-04T20:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T21:40:00.000Z-ErikHaugen-2010-11-04T20:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-04T22:57:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T21:40:00.000Z"></span>That is unsurprising - ship superstructures don't sound like a particularly interesting research topic. If this encyclopedia were targeted at scholars then I would agree with your conclusion. But consider that normal dictionaries typically don't even mention the uses other than the subject of this article. When most people say "superstructure" they're talking about ships. <a href="/wiki/User:ErikHaugen" title="User:ErikHaugen">ErikHaugen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ErikHaugen" title="User talk:ErikHaugen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-04T22:57:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T21:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-04T22:57:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T21:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-04T22:57:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T21:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-76.66.203.138-2010-11-05T04:22:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"></span>Oppose</b> to the common person, the current article is the primary usage. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:JARGON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JARGON">WP:JARGON</a> on the other meanings. The dab page can go at <a href="/wiki/Superstructure_(disambiguation)" class="mw-disambig" title="Superstructure (disambiguation)">superstructure (disambiguation)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.66.203.138" title="Special:Contributions/76.66.203.138">76.66.203.138</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:76.66.203.138" title="User talk:76.66.203.138">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-76.66.203.138-2010-11-05T04:22:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-76.66.203.138-2010-11-05T04:22:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-76.66.203.138-2010-11-05T04:22:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-05T05:31:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"></span>OK</b>, I accept that as a majority vote. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marie_Poise" title="User:Marie Poise">Marie Poise</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marie_Poise" title="User talk:Marie Poise">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-05T05:31:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:31, 5 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-05T05:31:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-05T05:31:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anthony_Appleyard-2010-11-07T11:44:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"></span>Support</b>. The most times that I have heard or read the word "superstructure" it meant a ship's or boat's superstructure. <a href="/wiki/User:Anthony_Appleyard" title="User:Anthony Appleyard">Anthony Appleyard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anthony_Appleyard" title="User talk:Anthony Appleyard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Anthony_Appleyard-2010-11-07T11:44:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anthony_Appleyard-2010-11-07T11:44:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anthony_Appleyard-2010-11-07T11:44:00.000Z-Marie_Poise-2010-11-04T17:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-07T15:48:00.000Z-Anthony_Appleyard-2010-11-07T11:44:00.000Z"></span>Wouldn't that be an argument in favor of "oppose"? <a href="/wiki/User:ErikHaugen" title="User:ErikHaugen">ErikHaugen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ErikHaugen" title="User talk:ErikHaugen">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-07T15:48:00.000Z-Anthony_Appleyard-2010-11-07T11:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 7 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-07T15:48:00.000Z-Anthony_Appleyard-2010-11-07T11:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ErikHaugen-2010-11-07T15:48:00.000Z-Anthony_Appleyard-2010-11-07T11:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-07T16:19:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span>The discussion is closed, folks. I have withdrawn my proposal and implemented the solution Erik proposed. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marie_Poise" title="User:Marie Poise">Marie Poise</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marie_Poise" title="User talk:Marie Poise">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-07T16:19:00.000Z-Requested_move" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 7 November 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-07T16:19:00.000Z-Requested_move"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marie_Poise-2010-11-07T16:19:00.000Z-Requested_move"></span> </p> <dl><dd><i>The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM">requested move</a>. <span style="color:red"><b>Please do not modify it.</b></span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</i></dd></dl></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Huh?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Huh?-2014-05-07T08:03:00.000Z"><span id="Huh.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Huh?-2014-05-07T08:03:00.000Z"></span>Huh?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Huh?-2014-05-07T08:03:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Superstructure&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Huh?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eamonnca1-2014-05-07T08:03:00.000Z-Huh?"></span>"...having the degree of freedom zero [in the terms of theory of machines]" </p><p>What on earth is all this about? --<span style="color: #006600; font-family: Papyrus;"><b><a href="/w/index.php?title=Eamonnca1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Eamonnca1 (page does not exist)"><span style="color: #006600;">Eamonnca1</span></a></b></span> <small><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eamonnca1#top" title="User talk:Eamonnca1"><span style="color: #CC6600; font-family: Baskerville;">TALK</span></a></sup></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-Eamonnca1-2014-05-07T08:03:00.000Z-Huh?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:03, 7 May 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eamonnca1-2014-05-07T08:03:00.000Z-Huh?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eamonnca1-2014-05-07T08:03:00.000Z-Huh?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Superlattice_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Superlattice_article-2016-05-19T11:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Superlattice_article-2016-05-19T11:04:00.000Z"></span>Superlattice article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Superlattice_article-2016-05-19T11:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Superstructure&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Superlattice article"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Superlattice" title="Superlattice"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-193.146.9.175-2016-05-19T11:04:00.000Z-Superlattice_article"></span>Superlattice</a> Doesn't it worth to make a common article for this kind of structures? There is also a relationship with articles where multilayer optical devices are mentioned.--<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/193.146.9.175" title="Special:Contributions/193.146.9.175">193.146.9.175</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:193.146.9.175&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:193.146.9.175 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superstructure#c-193.146.9.175-2016-05-19T11:04:00.000Z-Superlattice_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:04, 19 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-193.146.9.175-2016-05-19T11:04:00.000Z-Superlattice_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-193.146.9.175-2016-05-19T11:04:00.000Z-Superlattice_article"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Superstructure&oldid=1253510068">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Superstructure&oldid=1253510068</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Start-Class_Engineering_articles" title="Category:Start-Class Engineering articles">Start-Class Engineering articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Mid-importance_Engineering_articles" title="Category:Mid-importance Engineering articles">Mid-importance Engineering articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Engineering_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Engineering articles">WikiProject Engineering articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Start-Class_CE_articles" title="Category:Start-Class CE articles">Start-Class CE articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Unknown-importance_CE_articles" title="Category:Unknown-importance CE articles">Unknown-importance CE articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Civil_engineering_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Civil engineering articles">WikiProject Civil engineering articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Start-Class_Ships_articles" title="Category:Start-Class Ships articles">Start-Class Ships articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:All_WikiProject_Ships_pages" title="Category:All WikiProject Ships pages">All WikiProject Ships pages</a></li></ul></div><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_pages_using_copied_template" title="Category:Wikipedia pages using copied template">Wikipedia pages using copied template</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 26 October 2024, at 10:59<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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