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These are important on Wikipedia!</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1240928998" /></div><div class="signpost-sidebar signpost-sidebar-fillerimage"><figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Presentation_of_short_descriptions_in_Vector_skin.png" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Screenshot showing how short descriptions appear in the search" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Presentation_of_short_descriptions_in_Vector_skin.png/300px-Presentation_of_short_descriptions_in_Vector_skin.png" decoding="async" width="300" height="405" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Presentation_of_short_descriptions_in_Vector_skin.png/450px-Presentation_of_short_descriptions_in_Vector_skin.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Presentation_of_short_descriptions_in_Vector_skin.png/600px-Presentation_of_short_descriptions_in_Vector_skin.png 2x" data-file-width="1090" data-file-height="1472" /></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><div class="signpost-fillerimage">You can see short descriptions in grey beneath the article title. These descriptions, along with the thumbnail for the article, make it easier for the reader to understand what the article is covering.</div></div><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248129851" /><div class="wp-signpost-block-2 wp-signpost-block-2-narrow"> <p>Short descriptions are an important tool for readers, and we've come a long way since short descriptions were introduced. I think the community can meet our goal to make Wikipedia a more accessible resource! </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="But_what_are_they?" data-mw-thread-id="h-But_what_are_they?-signpost-article-title"><span id="But_what_are_they.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-But_what_are_they?-signpost-article-title"></span>But what are they?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-But_what_are_they?-signpost-article-title"></span></h3></div> <p>Why are they important? </p><p>How can we make them better? </p><p>Short descriptions began use on the English Wikipedia back in 2018. According to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Short_descriptions" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Short descriptions">Short Descriptions WikiProject</a>: </p> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style><blockquote class="talkquote" style="padding-top:1em; padding-bottom:1em;"><p>Short descriptions appear in Wikipedia mobile and some desktop searches, and help users identify the desired article. When viewing an article, some mobile Wikipedia Apps also display the description below the page title.<br /><br />Articles that are lacking a short description appear in search result lists simply by their titles, with no annotation. If all titles were self-evidently clear, it would be immediately obvious which one relates to the article of interest, but very often that is not the case. Titles alone can be ambiguous or otherwise not comprehensible to non-specialist readers, as well as to readers who are not fluent speakers of English. </p></blockquote> <p>That's pretty useful! Short descriptions are vital for many Wikipedia readers. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="How_can_I_help?" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_can_I_help?-signpost-article-title"><span id="How_can_I_help.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_can_I_help?-signpost-article-title"></span>How can I help?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_can_I_help?-signpost-article-title"></span></h3></div> <p>Most of Wikipedia's articles do have short descriptions by now<span class="nowrap"> </span>... however, as of February 2025, there are still ~770,000 articles that need short descriptions! To find out which ones do, you can simply <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=-hastemplate%3A%22Short+description%22&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1"><b>use this search</b></a></span> to get a list of all that don't. From there, you can refine your search to articles that are within your interests, or simply start adding descriptions to those that appear at the top of the list. </p><p>In a nutshell, short descriptions on Wikipedia must start with an uppercase letter, lack punctuation at the end, and be descriptive about the article in under forty characters (although you could go slightly above if necessary). Note that articles with self-explanatory titles can be marked as "none", showing they don't require a short description. Before you start adding short descriptions, learn what a good short description looks like by reading the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Short_description#Content" title="Wikipedia:Short description">formatting instructions and examples</a> at Wikipedia's project page about short descriptions. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Tools_to_use" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tools_to_use-signpost-article-title"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tools_to_use-signpost-article-title"></span>Tools to use<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tools_to_use-signpost-article-title"></span></h3></div> <p>There are a couple of good tools you can use to assist you in short descriptions to articles. My favorites are the ShortDesc Helper (which you can enable under the "Gadgets" section of your preferences) and the <a href="/wiki/User:SD0001/shortdescs-in-category" title="User:SD0001/shortdescs-in-category">Shortdescs-in-category</a> script. </p><p>The ShortDesc Helper allows you to add short descriptions right from the article page without needing to go through the edit section. It can also show you the corresponding <a href="/wiki/Wikidata" title="Wikidata">Wikidata</a> description item for the article if one exists, and allow you to import and modify it for short descriptions. Note, however, that most Wikidata items will need to be modified while being imported, as Wikipedia has different guidelines from Wikidata for short descriptions, primarily around length. </p><p>The Shortdescs-in-category script allows you to see the articles in categories which need short descriptions, and those which don't. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="A_high_challenge" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_high_challenge-signpost-article-title"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_high_challenge-signpost-article-title"></span>A high challenge<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_high_challenge-signpost-article-title"></span></h3></div> <p>I would like to put forward the following goal for the Wikipedia community: One year after this article is posted, every single article on Wikipedia will have a short description, or will be marked as not requiring one because the title is self-explanatory. 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?editintro=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Templates/Comment-editnotice&title=Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-27/Tips_and_tricks&action=edit&preload=Wikipedia:Signpost/Templates/Signpost-article-comments-end/preload">+ Add a comment</a></span><h2 id="Discuss_this_story" class="signpost-comments-discuss" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discuss_this_story-20250227123000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discuss_this_story-20250227123000"></span>Discuss this story<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discuss_this_story-20250227123000"></span></h2></div></div><div class="signpost-comments-disclaimer"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matarisvan-20250227123000-Discuss_this_story"></span>These comments are automatically <a href="/wiki/Help:Transclusion" title="Help:Transclusion">transcluded</a> from this article's <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-27/Tips_and_tricks" title="Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-02-27/Tips and 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Otherwise, editors will be working on the SHORTDESC and ORPHAN problems in perpetuity, because new articles would continually have to be brought in line with the standards. This would be something similar to how user-generated sources cannot be added to any page. I was thinking of writing something in The Signpost about this, but I was not sure where to start. Thank you for this article. Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:Matarisvan" title="User:Matarisvan">Matarisvan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matarisvan" title="User talk:Matarisvan">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-27/Tips_and_tricks#c-Matarisvan-20250227123000-Discuss_this_story" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matarisvan-20250227123000-Discuss_this_story"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matarisvan-20250227123000-Discuss_this_story"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SnowFire-20250227215600-Matarisvan-20250227123000"></span>Nothing is mandatory to contribute. If there's anything that is explicitly <i>okay</i> for editors to skip at AFC, it's boilerplate stuff gnomes without familiarity with the topic can do, like short descriptions and categories and navigation templates. If there was a drive to toughen requirements at AFC, priorities 1 through 1000 should be around sourcing, which is far more time-consuming for random Wikipedians to review. <a href="/wiki/User:SnowFire" title="User:SnowFire">SnowFire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SnowFire" title="User talk:SnowFire">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-27/Tips_and_tricks#c-SnowFire-20250227215600-Matarisvan-20250227123000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SnowFire-20250227215600-Matarisvan-20250227123000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SnowFire-20250227215600-Matarisvan-20250227123000"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Urban_Versis_32-20250228022000-Matarisvan-20250227123000"></span>Also note that in the AFCH reviewing tool used by AfC reviewers, during the accept process, editors can add a short description to the draft if it doesn't already have one. (I always add a short desc to submissions I'm accepting if it doesn't have one.) <a href="/wiki/User:Urban_Versis_32" title="User:Urban Versis 32"><span style="color:grey"><b>Urban</b></span> <span style="color:red"><b>Versis</b></span> <b>32</b></a><sup><i>KB</i></sup> ⚡ <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Urban_Versis_32" title="User talk:Urban Versis 32">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Urban_Versis_32" title="Special:Contributions/Urban Versis 32">contribs</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-27/Tips_and_tricks#c-Urban_Versis_32-20250228022000-Matarisvan-20250227123000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:20, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Urban_Versis_32-20250228022000-Matarisvan-20250227123000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Urban_Versis_32-20250228022000-Matarisvan-20250227123000"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maury_Markowitz-20250227124400-Discuss_this_story"></span>From my perspective, a significant issue here is that the short description does not appear in the default web-based view. I'm in Safari now, and clicking through articles shows no indication that this is present or missing. The only way to know this is to click Edit and examine the source. I am not sure I am using the default view, but it seems a more obvious visual indication would help matters. <a href="/wiki/User:Maury_Markowitz" title="User:Maury Markowitz">Maury Markowitz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maury_Markowitz" title="User talk:Maury Markowitz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-27/Tips_and_tricks#c-Maury_Markowitz-20250227124400-Discuss_this_story" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maury_Markowitz-20250227124400-Discuss_this_story"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maury_Markowitz-20250227124400-Discuss_this_story"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Urban_Versis_32-20250228021700-Maury_Markowitz-20250227124400"></span>True, most web-based versions of Wikipedia do not utilize this feature, something I thing should be adjusted. <a href="/wiki/User:Urban_Versis_32" title="User:Urban Versis 32"><span style="color:grey"><b>Urban</b></span> <span style="color:red"><b>Versis</b></span> <b>32</b></a><sup><i>KB</i></sup> ⚡ <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Urban_Versis_32" title="User talk:Urban Versis 32">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Urban_Versis_32" title="Special:Contributions/Urban Versis 32">contribs</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-27/Tips_and_tricks#c-Urban_Versis_32-20250228021700-Maury_Markowitz-20250227124400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:17, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Urban_Versis_32-20250228021700-Maury_Markowitz-20250227124400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Urban_Versis_32-20250228021700-Maury_Markowitz-20250227124400"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcus_Markup-20250227131600-Discuss_this_story"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">One year after this article is posted, will every single article on Wikipedia have a short description?</q>. No, because not every article requires one, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SDNONE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SDNONE">WP:SDNONE</a> where it says, <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704" /><q class="inline-quote-talk">If the primary purposes of a short description are entirely met by the title wording, that is a good indication that "none" would be appropriate.</q>. Mentioning that fact would have been a service to the community. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcus_Markup" title="User:Marcus Markup">Marcus Markup</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcus_Markup" title="User talk:Marcus Markup">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-27/Tips_and_tricks#c-Marcus_Markup-20250227131600-Discuss_this_story" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcus_Markup-20250227131600-Discuss_this_story"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcus_Markup-20250227131600-Discuss_this_story"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Urban_Versis_32-20250228021600-Marcus_Markup-20250227131600"></span>Good point, I have added some quick notes to the article covering this. Thanks for the advice and sorry I forgot to add this sooner! <a href="/wiki/User:Urban_Versis_32" title="User:Urban Versis 32"><span style="color:grey"><b>Urban</b></span> <span style="color:red"><b>Versis</b></span> <b>32</b></a><sup><i>KB</i></sup> ⚡ <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Urban_Versis_32" title="User talk:Urban Versis 32">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Urban_Versis_32" title="Special:Contributions/Urban Versis 32">contribs</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-27/Tips_and_tricks#c-Urban_Versis_32-20250228021600-Marcus_Markup-20250227131600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:16, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Urban_Versis_32-20250228021600-Marcus_Markup-20250227131600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Urban_Versis_32-20250228021600-Marcus_Markup-20250227131600"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jim.henderson-20250227203400-Discuss_this_story"></span>Short Description is indeed a good thing but as a frequent coach at edit-athons, I think we should not add it to the requirements for a new article. New editors have enough trouble with more vital ideas like what's a Reliable Source and why an article should have links to and from other articles. Most editors, old or new, have never had an experienced editor looking over their shoulder and coaching them as I do, and the lack of Short Description should merely doom the new article to be labeled as at best a Start-class or even a Stub. And yes, in perpetuity we'll be working on dead-ends, orphans, and other commonplace shortcomings, and deciding whether a new Stub article is worth the cost of upgrade. <a href="/wiki/User:Jim.henderson" title="User:Jim.henderson">Jim.henderson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jim.henderson" title="User talk:Jim.henderson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-27/Tips_and_tricks#c-Jim.henderson-20250227203400-Discuss_this_story" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jim.henderson-20250227203400-Discuss_this_story"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jim.henderson-20250227203400-Discuss_this_story"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Feminist-20250228025200-Discuss_this_story"></span>Writing short descriptions sounds like something which LLMs should be good at assisting with. <a href="/wiki/User:Feminist" title="User:Feminist">feminist🩸</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Feminist" title="User talk:Feminist">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-27/Tips_and_tricks#c-Feminist-20250228025200-Discuss_this_story" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:52, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Feminist-20250228025200-Discuss_this_story"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Feminist-20250228025200-Discuss_this_story"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jake01756-20250228195100-Feminist-20250228025200"></span>It would be really good at assisting with that. They would just need to be tagged that a LLM generated the short description from the article. <span><a href="/wiki/User:Jake01756" title="User:Jake01756"><b style="font-family:Courier; color:black">Jake01756</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jake01756" title="User talk:Jake01756"><b style="font-family:Courier; color:purple">(talk)</b></a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jake01756" title="Special:Contributions/Jake01756"><b style="font-family:Courier; color:purple">(contribs)</b></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-02-27/Tips_and_tricks#c-Jake01756-20250228195100-Feminist-20250228025200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:51, 28 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jake01756-20250228195100-Feminist-20250228025200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jake01756-20250228195100-Feminist-20250228025200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WereSpielChequers-20250302140300-Feminist-20250228025200"></span>Better still, writing short descriptions sounds to me like a great entry level task for new editors, especially new editors who have not yet got their head round referencing. 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