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Sections older than <b>30 days</b> may be automatically archived by <span class="nowraplinks"><a href="/wiki/User:Lowercase_sigmabot_III" title="User:Lowercase sigmabot III">Lowercase sigmabot III</a></span> when more than 5 sections are present.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Quick_Response_To_Constantinople_Edit" data-mw-thread-id="h-Quick_Response_To_Constantinople_Edit-20241119223400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Quick_Response_To_Constantinople_Edit-20241119223400"></span>Quick Response To Constantinople Edit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Quick_Response_To_Constantinople_Edit-20241119223400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Quick Response To Constantinople Edit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Akravus-20241119223400-Quick_Response_To_Constantinople_Edit"></span>Hi Remsense! I see you saw the constantinople edit I made. Yes I know that the edit wasn't much but the edit summary that I submitted to wikipedia was something that was autofilled out for some reason and wasn't something I filled out myself.Thank you for letting me know though! <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Akravus" title="User:Akravus">Akravus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Akravus#top" title="User talk:Akravus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Akravus" title="Special:Contributions/Akravus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Akravus-20241119223400-Quick_Response_To_Constantinople_Edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:34, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Akravus-20241119223400-Quick_Response_To_Constantinople_Edit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Akravus-20241119223400-Quick_Response_To_Constantinople_Edit"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Help_with_an_RSP_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Help_with_an_RSP_question-20241002122000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Help_with_an_RSP_question-20241002122000"></span>Help with an RSP question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Help_with_an_RSP_question-20241002122000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Help with an RSP question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Brucemyboy1212-20241002122000-Help_with_an_RSP_question"></span>Hi Remsense. I’m looking for input on the right way to add a source to RSP following an RfC. I’m writing to you because you are active on RSP. An MMA blog called Bloody Elbow has been determined to be generally unreliable prior to March 2024. There has been an RfC and two previous discussions:<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_450#RfC:_Bloody_Elbow">[1]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_141#bloodyelbow">[2]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_446#Discussion_(Bloody_Elbow)">[3]</a>. Based on my reading, Bloody Elbow now meets the formal <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RSPCRITERIA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RSPCRITERIA">WP:RSPCRITERIA</a> but I think an independent editor(s) should make that determination and if they agree, implement the RSP. I would do it myself but I am a COI editor who represents an MMA league, <a href="/wiki/ONE_Championship" title="ONE Championship">ONE Championship</a>, that’s been frequently written about in the blog. This blog is so unreliable that when new owners took over in March 2024 and turned it into a reliable news source with reporters, editors and fact checking, they deleted the entire 14 year archive of blog posts. Despite a discussion on RSN going back 12 years that the blog was not reliable, Bloody Elbow has been cited more than 500 times on Wikipedia, including on most of the significant pages about MMA. Without the visibility of the RSP, I think the misuse of this blog will remain pervasive. Bloody Elbow’s reinvention by new owners as a reliable source is going to add to the confusion. People will think that that old blog content has the credibility of the new reliable news source, or - conversely - that the new source is generally unreliable because it used to be a blog. A delineation on RSP will very much help with the confusion. Do you have any guidance on how I can bring this to the attention of the right editors? <a href="/wiki/User:Brucemyboy1212" title="User:Brucemyboy1212">Brucemyboy1212</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brucemyboy1212" title="User talk:Brucemyboy1212">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Brucemyboy1212-20241002122000-Help_with_an_RSP_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 2 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Brucemyboy1212-20241002122000-Help_with_an_RSP_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Brucemyboy1212-20241002122000-Help_with_an_RSP_question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Remsense-20241025210600-Brucemyboy1212-20241002122000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Brucemyboy1212" title="User:Brucemyboy1212">Brucemyboy1212</a> did you still need help with this? <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F"><a href="/wiki/User:Remsense" title="User:Remsense"><span style="color:#fff"><b>Remsense</b></span></a><span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span lang="zh" style="color:#fff"><b>论</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Remsense-20241025210600-Brucemyboy1212-20241002122000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Remsense-20241025210600-Brucemyboy1212-20241002122000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Remsense-20241025210600-Brucemyboy1212-20241002122000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Brucemyboy1212-20241028215600-Remsense-20241025210600"></span>Thanks for the reply. Yes, I could still use some help. At the suggestion of another editor, I posted the discussion here <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Posting_a_source_to_RSP">[4]</a>. I'd be grateful for your opinion if you're able to weigh in. <a href="/wiki/User:Brucemyboy1212" title="User:Brucemyboy1212">Brucemyboy1212</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brucemyboy1212" title="User talk:Brucemyboy1212">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Brucemyboy1212-20241028215600-Remsense-20241025210600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Brucemyboy1212-20241028215600-Remsense-20241025210600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Brucemyboy1212-20241028215600-Remsense-20241025210600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reason_for_revert" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reason_for_revert-20241024092100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reason_for_revert-20241024092100"></span>Reason for revert<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reason_for_revert-20241024092100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Reason for revert"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novanotes-20241024092100-Reason_for_revert"></span>Howdie, re my contribution 05:19, 24 October 2024 for 'Moon': The baseline version says: "Because of this small tilt, the Moon's solar illumination varies much less with season than on Earth and it allows for the existence of some peaks of eternal light at the Moon's north pole, at the rim of the crater Peary". My clarifications were to say that some peaks of eternal light exist at <u>both</u> the Moon's north and south poles, gave examples of the locations receiving maximum illumination, and pointed out that 'eternal' should not be taken to literally mean 'always' (or 100%). All of these statements supported with self-references, and cited references. What is the rationale for deeming the update 'deleterious' please? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Novanotes&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Novanotes (page does not exist)">Novanotes</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Novanotes&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Novanotes (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Novanotes-20241024092100-Reason_for_revert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novanotes-20241024092100-Reason_for_revert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novanotes-20241024092100-Reason_for_revert"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hello" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello-20241029034600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello-20241029034600"></span>Hello<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello-20241029034600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Hello"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AnAnicolaidis-20241029034600-Hello"></span>Seems to ip editor who seems to did sock/meat stuff at <a href="/wiki/Peace" title="Peace">Peace</a> and <a href="/wiki/Just_war_theory" title="Just war theory">Just war theory</a> articles and the talk pages there is back. In general it is one strange story. <a href="/wiki/User:AnAnicolaidis" title="User:AnAnicolaidis">AnAnicolaidis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AnAnicolaidis" title="User talk:AnAnicolaidis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-AnAnicolaidis-20241029034600-Hello" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:46, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AnAnicolaidis-20241029034600-Hello"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AnAnicolaidis-20241029034600-Hello"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wu_way" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wu_way-20241102013700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wu_way-20241102013700"></span>Wu way<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wu_way-20241102013700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Wu way"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Foristslow-20241102013700-Wu_way"></span>Hi,In reference to my edit. It was a historical edit by another that was removed recently by another editor with no edit summary. There is need to bring some balance back to the page. I agree that it not very well written and was about to reference that edit. But that being said that there seems to be many that would like to keep the concept of wu way as a completely mental pursuit. and to understand the Tao it needs yin and yang, mind and body. So where do we start. Look forward to talking. <a href="/wiki/User:Foristslow" title="User:Foristslow">Foristslow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Foristslow" title="User talk:Foristslow">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Foristslow-20241102013700-Wu_way" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:37, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Foristslow-20241102013700-Wu_way"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Foristslow-20241102013700-Wu_way"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Why_did_you_revert_my_Delhi_Sultanate_edit?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_did_you_revert_my_Delhi_Sultanate_edit?-20241102112100"><span id="Why_did_you_revert_my_Delhi_Sultanate_edit.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_did_you_revert_my_Delhi_Sultanate_edit?-20241102112100"></span>Why did you revert my Delhi Sultanate edit?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_did_you_revert_my_Delhi_Sultanate_edit?-20241102112100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Why did you revert my Delhi Sultanate edit?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JingJongPascal-20241102112100-Why_did_you_revert_my_Delhi_Sultanate_edit?"></span>any reason? </p><p>I was wondering why was Empire of Hindustan their primary name was hidden under a footnote while "Sultanate of Delhi" a different spelling is shown primarily. </p><p>See <a href="/wiki/Ottoman_Empire" title="Ottoman Empire">Ottoman Empire</a> , and how it refers primary name on the front too. <a href="/wiki/User:JingJongPascal" title="User:JingJongPascal">JingJongPascal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JingJongPascal" title="User talk:JingJongPascal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-JingJongPascal-20241102112100-Why_did_you_revert_my_Delhi_Sultanate_edit?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JingJongPascal-20241102112100-Why_did_you_revert_my_Delhi_Sultanate_edit?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JingJongPascal-20241102112100-Why_did_you_revert_my_Delhi_Sultanate_edit?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JingJongPascal-20241102112100-JingJongPascal-20241102112100"></span>seems very uneccesary to mention "Sultanate of Delhi" and hiding "Empire of Hindustan" <a href="/wiki/User:JingJongPascal" title="User:JingJongPascal">JingJongPascal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JingJongPascal" title="User talk:JingJongPascal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-JingJongPascal-20241102112100-JingJongPascal-20241102112100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JingJongPascal-20241102112100-JingJongPascal-20241102112100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JingJongPascal-20241102112100-JingJongPascal-20241102112100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="United_States" data-mw-thread-id="h-United_States-20241102170800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-United_States-20241102170800"></span>United States<span data-mw-comment-end="h-United_States-20241102170800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: United States"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mason.Jones-20241102170800-United_States"></span>No idea why you would overrule logical and <i>necessary</i> corrections from several editors that follow WP style and format—most especially the last editor's cleanup up typos and correct Wikipedia apostrophe format. As for the rest, I address them in my edit note. <a href="/wiki/User:Mason.Jones" title="User:Mason.Jones">Mason.Jones</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mason.Jones" title="User talk:Mason.Jones">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Mason.Jones-20241102170800-United_States" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mason.Jones-20241102170800-United_States"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mason.Jones-20241102170800-United_States"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_concerning_my_edit_of_Encyclopædia_Britannica" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_concerning_my_edit_of_Encyclopædia_Britannica-20241102210700"><span id="Question_concerning_my_edit_of_Encyclop.C3.A6dia_Britannica"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_concerning_my_edit_of_Encyclopædia_Britannica-20241102210700"></span>Question concerning my edit of Encyclopædia Britannica<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_concerning_my_edit_of_Encyclopædia_Britannica-20241102210700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Question concerning my edit of Encyclopædia Britannica"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Takeru_Watanabe-20241102210700-Question_concerning_my_edit_of_Encyclopædia_Britannica"></span>Hi Remsense, earlier, you undid my edit of the article <a href="/wiki/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica" title="Encyclopædia Britannica">Encyclopædia Britannica</a>. I had removed two unnecessary spaces (revision 1255020821). Could you please tell me the reason for undoing my edit? I would like to understand it. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Takeru_Watanabe" title="User:Takeru Watanabe">Takeru Watanabe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Takeru_Watanabe" title="User talk:Takeru Watanabe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Takeru_Watanabe-20241102210700-Question_concerning_my_edit_of_Encyclopædia_Britannica" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:07, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Takeru_Watanabe-20241102210700-Question_concerning_my_edit_of_Encyclopædia_Britannica"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Takeru_Watanabe-20241102210700-Question_concerning_my_edit_of_Encyclopædia_Britannica"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Need_help" data-mw-thread-id="h-Need_help-20241107063600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Need_help-20241107063600"></span>Need help<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Need_help-20241107063600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Need help"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Foristslow-20241107063600-Need_help"></span>Hello, I am having a problem with editors on a page called Bodhidharma and other related pages, there seems to be a POV on many of these pages that are linking many inherently Chinese cultural ideas back to India. If you could give me some guidance that would be appreciated.🙏🏼 <a href="/wiki/User:Foristslow" title="User:Foristslow">Foristslow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Foristslow" title="User talk:Foristslow">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Foristslow-20241107063600-Need_help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Foristslow-20241107063600-Need_help"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Foristslow-20241107063600-Need_help"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Re:_References_to_Holst’s_The_Planets" data-mw-thread-id="h-Re:_References_to_Holst’s_The_Planets-20241108070400"><span id="Re:_References_to_Holst.E2.80.99s_The_Planets"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Re:_References_to_Holst’s_The_Planets-20241108070400"></span>Re: References to Holst’s The Planets<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Re:_References_to_Holst’s_The_Planets-20241108070400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Re: References to Holst’s The Planets"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241108070400-Re:_References_to_Holst’s_The_Planets"></span>Should the references to <a href="/wiki/The_Planets" title="The Planets">The Planets</a> be removed from Mars, Uranus, and Neptune? By your logic, numerous poets are also cited in Venus, should we also remove them? <a href="/wiki/User:Jarrod_Baniqued" title="User:Jarrod Baniqued">Jarrod Baniqued (he/him)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jarrod_Baniqued" title="User talk:Jarrod Baniqued">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241108070400-Re:_References_to_Holst’s_The_Planets" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241108070400-Re:_References_to_Holst’s_The_Planets"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241108070400-Re:_References_to_Holst’s_The_Planets"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JMF-20241108100600-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241108070400"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> No but your reference to astrology is definitely a shoehorn job. The source you cited says explicitly "Recent writers on Holst have tried to make much of his self-avowed interest in astrology, but I think that Holst’s actual interest in astrology as it relates to The Planets extended very little beyond a springboard it provided for his composition." So the reversion was entirely appropriate. <a href="/wiki/User:JMF" title="User:JMF">𝕁𝕄𝔽</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JMF" title="User talk:JMF">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-JMF-20241108100600-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241108070400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JMF-20241108100600-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241108070400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JMF-20241108100600-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241108070400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241109081100-JMF-20241108100600"></span>How would an editor who's more acquainted with procedure go about incorporating a link to The Planets in each planet's article, without shoehorning it in? Is it impossible? Genuinely curious. <a href="/wiki/User:Jarrod_Baniqued" title="User:Jarrod Baniqued">Jarrod Baniqued (he/him)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jarrod_Baniqued" title="User talk:Jarrod Baniqued">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241109081100-JMF-20241108100600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:11, 9 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241109081100-JMF-20241108100600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241109081100-JMF-20241108100600"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JMF-20241110095800-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241109081100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jarrod_Baniqued" title="User:Jarrod Baniqued">Jarrod Baniqued</a>:</span> My "shoehorning" comment was in reference to the undue and inaccurate astrology element of your edit. A simple inclusion of Holst in the list would have been uncontroversial. Which I have just done, writing <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">The composer <a href="/wiki/Gustav_Holst" title="Gustav Holst">Holst</a> included it as <a href="/wiki/The_Planets#Venus" title="The Planets">the second movement</a> of his <i><a href="/wiki/The_Planets" title="The Planets">The Planets</a></i> suite.</q>. No baggage. <a href="/wiki/User:JMF" title="User:JMF">𝕁𝕄𝔽</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JMF" title="User talk:JMF">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-JMF-20241110095800-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241109081100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:58, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JMF-20241110095800-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241109081100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JMF-20241110095800-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241109081100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241110124600-JMF-20241110095800"></span>I see. I might get around to readdressing the idea eventually. We'll see <a href="/wiki/User:Jarrod_Baniqued" title="User:Jarrod Baniqued">Jarrod Baniqued (he/him)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jarrod_Baniqued" title="User talk:Jarrod Baniqued">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241110124600-JMF-20241110095800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:46, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241110124600-JMF-20241110095800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jarrod_Baniqued-20241110124600-JMF-20241110095800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="GA_Review" data-mw-thread-id="h-GA_Review-20241109055800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-GA_Review-20241109055800"></span>GA Review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-GA_Review-20241109055800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: GA Review"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Strongman13072007-20241109055800-GA_Review"></span>I see that the review for my article has been halted for a few days. Is there a problem? <a href="/wiki/User:Strongman13072007" title="User:Strongman13072007">Strongman13072007</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Strongman13072007" title="User talk:Strongman13072007">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Strongman13072007-20241109055800-GA_Review" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 9 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Strongman13072007-20241109055800-GA_Review"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Strongman13072007-20241109055800-GA_Review"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tittha_Sutta_et_al." data-mw-thread-id="h-Tittha_Sutta_et_al.-20241109080300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tittha_Sutta_et_al.-20241109080300"></span><a href="/wiki/Tittha_Sutta" title="Tittha Sutta">Tittha Sutta</a> et al.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tittha_Sutta_et_al.-20241109080300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Tittha Sutta et al."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wound_theology-20241109080300-Tittha_Sutta_et_al."></span>Hi Remsense, </p><p>You reverted some of the edits done by the IP user <a href="/wiki/User:50.236.206.18" title="User:50.236.206.18">50.236.206.18</a> (which, for full transparency: many of which are mine, as it is public WiFi network I sometimes connect to in <a href="/wiki/Portland,_Oregon" title="Portland, Oregon">Portland, Oregon</a>). Some of these are more contentious (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bible_errata&oldid=1254700301">this</a> is debatable, while I still feel that old-fashioned terms don't qualify as biblical errata -- though I don't care enough to argue about it.) Other ones were less contentious, so I'm wondering why you reverted these: </p> <ul><li>The <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tittha_Sutta&oldid=1254713847">Tittha Sutta</a> is not channeled literature by any stretch of imagination. By all accounts is one of many ancient oral sources eventually recorded in the <a href="/wiki/Nikayas" class="mw-redirect" title="Nikayas">Nikayas</a>. Channeled texts aren't mentioned in the body, or in the sources, and certainly not in the text itself.</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ancient_Egyptian_conception_of_the_soul&oldid=1256115863">This</a> is not vandalism (even if, admittedly, the edit summary is rude.) It is random <a href="/wiki/Unverified_personal_gnosis" title="Unverified personal gnosis">unverified personal gnosis</a> without a source or any mention of such a concept on the linked pages -- hence "no one asked" i.e. no one asked for some random syncretic personal theology.</li></ul> <p>Do you assume removal of content, regardless of the content being removed or the rudeness of the edit, qualifies as vandalism? <a href="/wiki/User:Wound_theology" title="User:Wound theology"><span style="background:black; color:white; padding:2px;">wound theology</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wound_theology" title="User talk:Wound theology"><span style="background:black; color:red; padding:2px;">◈</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Wound_theology-20241109080300-Tittha_Sutta_et_al." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:03, 9 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wound_theology-20241109080300-Tittha_Sutta_et_al."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wound_theology-20241109080300-Tittha_Sutta_et_al."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Afeedback_on_bodhidharma_talk." data-mw-thread-id="h-Afeedback_on_bodhidharma_talk.-20241110012500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Afeedback_on_bodhidharma_talk.-20241110012500"></span>Afeedback on bodhidharma talk.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Afeedback_on_bodhidharma_talk.-20241110012500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Afeedback on bodhidharma talk."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Foristslow-20241110012500-Afeedback_on_bodhidharma_talk."></span>Hi I am wanting some feedback on this page the conversation is under Chan, if that is ok <a href="/wiki/User:Foristslow" title="User:Foristslow">Foristslow</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Foristslow" title="User talk:Foristslow">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Foristslow-20241110012500-Afeedback_on_bodhidharma_talk." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:25, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Foristslow-20241110012500-Afeedback_on_bodhidharma_talk."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Foristslow-20241110012500-Afeedback_on_bodhidharma_talk."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reversion_of_editions_in_Vega,_Galaxy,_Ursa_Minor,_Electron_and_Island_of_stability" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reversion_of_editions_in_Vega,_Galaxy,_Ursa_Minor,_Electron_and_Island_of_stabil-20241111074700"><span id="Reversion_of_editions_in_Vega.2C_Galaxy.2C_Ursa_Minor.2C_Electron_and_Island_of_stability"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reversion_of_editions_in_Vega,_Galaxy,_Ursa_Minor,_Electron_and_Island_of_stabil-20241111074700"></span>Reversion of editions in <i><a href="/wiki/Vega" title="Vega">Vega</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Galaxy" title="Galaxy">Galaxy</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Ursa_Minor" title="Ursa Minor">Ursa Minor</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Electron" title="Electron">Electron</a></i> and <i><a href="/wiki/Island_of_stability" title="Island of stability">Island of stability</a></i><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reversion_of_editions_in_Vega,_Galaxy,_Ursa_Minor,_Electron_and_Island_of_stabil-20241111074700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Reversion of editions in Vega, Galaxy, Ursa Minor, Electron and Island of stability"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RGLago-20241111074700-Reversion_of_editions_in_Vega,_Galaxy,_Ursa_Minor,_Electron_and_Island_of_stabil"></span>Hi, </p><p>Recently you reverted the editions in the articles <i><a href="/wiki/Vega" title="Vega">Vega</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Galaxy" title="Galaxy">Galaxy</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Ursa_Minor" title="Ursa Minor">Ursa Minor</a></i>, <i><a href="/wiki/Electron" title="Electron">Electron</a></i> and <i><a href="/wiki/Island_of_stability" title="Island of stability">Island of stability</a></i> to reinstate the comma as digit number separator instead of spaces (gaps). </p><p>Please, take into account that these editions (i.e. the editions to format grouping of digits in large numbers with spaces instead of commas) were done in accordance with the <a href="/wiki/Manual_of_Style" class="mw-redirect" title="Manual of Style">Manual of Style of English Wikipedia</a> subsection <a href="/wiki/MOS:NUM" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:NUM">Grouping of digits</a> where it's stated that: "In general, digits should be grouped and separated either by commas <b>or by narrow gaps</b> (never a period/full point)" and that "Grouping with <b>narrow gaps</b> is especially recommended for articles related to <b>science, technology, engineering or mathematics</b>". </p><p>Also, you should take into account that neither commas nor dots, buts spaces is the recommendation as "thousand separator" followed by the International System of Units (i.e. the standard used to communicate in science); and this is also the recommendation of USA standards agencies like NIST (<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://physics.nist.gov/cuu/pdf/sp811.pdf">[5]</a> SP811) other international bodies like ISO (ISO Std 80000). </p><p>So, please, I encourage you to reconsider your reversions, and leave the articles as they were before them (i.e. revert the reversions yourself). I'm not reverting them myself, because I don't want to start an "edition war", but to convince you that your intervention was a mistake. </p><p>Thank you for your consideration. Regards. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:RGLago&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:RGLago (page does not exist)">RGLago</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RGLago" title="User talk:RGLago">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-RGLago-20241111074700-Reversion_of_editions_in_Vega,_Galaxy,_Ursa_Minor,_Electron_and_Island_of_stabil" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RGLago-20241111074700-Reversion_of_editions_in_Vega,_Galaxy,_Ursa_Minor,_Electron_and_Island_of_stabil"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RGLago-20241111074700-Reversion_of_editions_in_Vega,_Galaxy,_Ursa_Minor,_Electron_and_Island_of_stabil"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dispute_resolution_noticeboard" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dispute_resolution_noticeboard-20241112052900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dispute_resolution_noticeboard-20241112052900"></span>Dispute resolution noticeboard<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dispute_resolution_noticeboard-20241112052900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Dispute resolution noticeboard"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PromQueenCarrie-20241112052900-Dispute_resolution_noticeboard"></span>I have started a discussion for all participants to talk out the dispute re Gabor and Ataturk <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Mustafa_Kemal_Ataturk,_Zsa_Zsa_Gabor">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Mustafa_Kemal_Ataturk,_Zsa_Zsa_Gabor</a> <a href="/wiki/User:PromQueenCarrie" title="User:PromQueenCarrie">PromQueenCarrie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PromQueenCarrie" title="User talk:PromQueenCarrie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-PromQueenCarrie-20241112052900-Dispute_resolution_noticeboard" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:29, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PromQueenCarrie-20241112052900-Dispute_resolution_noticeboard"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PromQueenCarrie-20241112052900-Dispute_resolution_noticeboard"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Archives" data-mw-thread-id="h-Archives-20241114040100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Archives-20241114040100"></span>Archives<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Archives-20241114040100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Archives"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JacktheBrown-20241114040100-Archives"></span>Hi, how are you?<br/>How do I merge my two archives? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:JacktheBrown" title="User talk:JacktheBrown">User talk:JacktheBrown</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:JacktheBrown" title="User:JacktheBrown">JacktheBrown</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JacktheBrown" title="User talk:JacktheBrown">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-JacktheBrown-20241114040100-Archives" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JacktheBrown-20241114040100-Archives"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JacktheBrown-20241114040100-Archives"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hsiang-Ju_Lin" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hsiang-Ju_Lin-20241116131100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hsiang-Ju_Lin-20241116131100"></span>Hsiang-Ju Lin<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hsiang-Ju_Lin-20241116131100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Hsiang-Ju Lin"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Studydoc-20241116131100-Hsiang-Ju_Lin"></span>Overlinks were removed as per your suggestion, thank you for that. The other educational corrections that were made were requested by the family(neice) of Hsiang-Ju Lin as at the time Harvard University did not offer a PhD in research biochemistry but instead it offered a DSc in the field. The other educational institutions can be confirmed by reference #21. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Studydoc&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Studydoc (page does not exist)">Studydoc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Studydoc" title="User talk:Studydoc">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Studydoc-20241116131100-Hsiang-Ju_Lin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:11, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Studydoc-20241116131100-Hsiang-Ju_Lin"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Studydoc-20241116131100-Hsiang-Ju_Lin"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Just_passing_by_to_say..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Just_passing_by_to_say...-20241116143600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Just_passing_by_to_say...-20241116143600"></span>Just passing by to say...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Just_passing_by_to_say...-20241116143600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Just passing by to say..."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hym3242-20241116143600-Just_passing_by_to_say..."></span>Your user page somehow feels very stereotypically 'Chinese' (No offense), which is a rare sight in en.wiki. I am surprised to learn you are a U.S. native, maybe Chinese are similar wherever they are born. <a href="/wiki/User:Hym3242" title="User:Hym3242">Hym3242</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hym3242" title="User talk:Hym3242">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Hym3242-20241116143600-Just_passing_by_to_say..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:36, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hym3242-20241116143600-Just_passing_by_to_say..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hym3242-20241116143600-Just_passing_by_to_say..."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Remsense-20241117164000-Hym3242-20241116143600"></span>To be clear: I'm not of Chinese ancestry if that is what you mean by <span class="example" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-added, #006400);">maybe Chinese are similar wherever they are born</span>. I appreciate the kind words though, I just find the area of history/culture/etc. particularly edifying to learn about and (sometimes) weave into my own life is all! <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F"><a href="/wiki/User:Remsense" title="User:Remsense"><span style="color:#fff"><b>Remsense</b></span></a><span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span lang="zh" style="color:#fff"><b>论</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Remsense-20241117164000-Hym3242-20241116143600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Remsense-20241117164000-Hym3242-20241116143600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Remsense-20241117164000-Hym3242-20241116143600"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Austronesier-20241117201000-Just_passing_by_to_say..."></span>Now it's my turn to pass by just say... that you can safely trust your first instinct<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1257796522&oldid=1257760405&title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/YilevBot">[6]</a>. I have to admit that I haven't been 100% sure either, but the appearance of the second (loudly quacking) sock made at least confident to mention the other account as well. –<a href="/wiki/User:Austronesier" title="User:Austronesier">Austronesier</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Austronesier" title="User talk:Austronesier">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Austronesier-20241117201000-Just_passing_by_to_say..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Austronesier-20241117201000-Just_passing_by_to_say..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Austronesier-20241117201000-Just_passing_by_to_say..."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sorry_about_my_change_in_reference" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sorry_about_my_change_in_reference-20241118052400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sorry_about_my_change_in_reference-20241118052400"></span>Sorry about my change in reference<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sorry_about_my_change_in_reference-20241118052400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Sorry about my change in reference"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-98.243.41.204-20241118052400-Sorry_about_my_change_in_reference"></span>Hello, I’m new to editing and learning how to properly format references, sorry for my previous changes. </p><p>Could you give me some advice on citing sources from Wayback Machine? Some of these sources don’t have DOIs because they’re quite old. I’d appreciate your guidance. </p><p>Best! <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.243.41.204" title="Special:Contributions/98.243.41.204">98.243.41.204</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:98.243.41.204" title="User talk:98.243.41.204">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-98.243.41.204-20241118052400-Sorry_about_my_change_in_reference" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:24, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-98.243.41.204-20241118052400-Sorry_about_my_change_in_reference"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-98.243.41.204-20241118052400-Sorry_about_my_change_in_reference"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Remsense-20241118052800-98.243.41.204-20241118052400"></span>Hey, thanks for engaging, I appreciate it! If you post the specifics at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Marco_Polo_Bridge_incident" title="Talk:Marco Polo Bridge incident">Talk:Marco Polo Bridge incident</a>, me and likely some others will help sort you out. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F"><a href="/wiki/User:Remsense" title="User:Remsense"><span style="color:#fff"><b>Remsense</b></span></a><span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span lang="zh" style="color:#fff"><b>论</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Remsense-20241118052800-98.243.41.204-20241118052400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:28, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Remsense-20241118052800-98.243.41.204-20241118052400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Remsense-20241118052800-98.243.41.204-20241118052400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-98.243.41.204-20241118054400-Remsense-20241118052800"></span>Thank you for your reply and assistance! I’m referencing this source: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://archive.org/details/shenbao-1937.07-180/page/n1/mode/2up">https://archive.org/details/shenbao-1937.07-180/page/n1/mode/2up</a>, an official newspaper from the victimized nations during that period. To better understand the realities of war, I believe it’s crucial to cite reports from the victimized countries, or at least from third-party nations—not solely from the media of the aggressor state. This approach provides a more comprehensive perspective on historical events. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.243.41.204" title="Special:Contributions/98.243.41.204">98.243.41.204</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:98.243.41.204" title="User talk:98.243.41.204">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-98.243.41.204-20241118054400-Remsense-20241118052800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:44, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-98.243.41.204-20241118054400-Remsense-20241118052800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-98.243.41.204-20241118054400-Remsense-20241118052800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Remsense-20241118054900-98.243.41.204-20241118054400"></span>Per what I said before—discussions about content should generally occur on the corresponding article talk pages so everyone can participate, not here. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F"><a href="/wiki/User:Remsense" title="User:Remsense"><span style="color:#fff"><b>Remsense</b></span></a><span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span lang="zh" style="color:#fff"><b>论</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Remsense-20241118054900-98.243.41.204-20241118054400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:49, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Remsense-20241118054900-98.243.41.204-20241118054400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Remsense-20241118054900-98.243.41.204-20241118054400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User_talk:100.33.135.81" data-mw-thread-id="h-User_talk:100.33.135.81-20241118205400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User_talk:100.33.135.81-20241118205400"></span><a href="/wiki/User_talk:100.33.135.81" title="User talk:100.33.135.81">User talk:100.33.135.81</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-User_talk:100.33.135.81-20241118205400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: User talk:100.33.135.81"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Adakiko-20241118205400-User_talk:100.33.135.81"></span>Your template is malformed. I did add an NPA to their talk page prior to your edit. Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:Adakiko" title="User:Adakiko">Adakiko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Adakiko" title="User talk:Adakiko">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Adakiko-20241118205400-User_talk:100.33.135.81" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Adakiko-20241118205400-User_talk:100.33.135.81"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Adakiko-20241118205400-User_talk:100.33.135.81"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Remsense-20241118205500-Adakiko-20241118205400"></span>Thank you. Sometimes it's clear a situation is under control and phone-tethered errors aren't worth fixing. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F"><a href="/wiki/User:Remsense" title="User:Remsense"><span style="color:#fff"><b>Remsense</b></span></a><span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span lang="zh" style="color:#fff"><b>论</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Remsense-20241118205500-Adakiko-20241118205400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Remsense-20241118205500-Adakiko-20241118205400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Remsense-20241118205500-Adakiko-20241118205400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Jesus" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jesus-20241118210500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jesus-20241118210500"></span>Jesus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jesus-20241118210500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Jesus"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Therealbey-20241118210500-Jesus"></span>Why not <b>Jesus son of Mary</b> the other name like <b>Jesus of Nazareth</b> is in Christianity and according to you in <a href="/wiki/Muhammad" title="Muhammad">Muhammad</a> the page of Jesus is about the figure found in various religion and for Christianity it is <a href="/wiki/Jesus_in_Christianity" title="Jesus in Christianity">Jesus in Christianity</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Therealbey" title="User:Therealbey">Therealbey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Therealbey" title="User talk:Therealbey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Therealbey-20241118210500-Jesus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Therealbey-20241118210500-Jesus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Therealbey-20241118210500-Jesus"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Remsense-20241118210900-Therealbey-20241118210500"></span>Please discuss content issues on the corresponding talk page, not my user page. On our most important, most highly visible articles, it should not surprise you that many aspects of the most visible, most important sections are the result of deliberate consensus and are the way they are for good reasons. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F"><a href="/wiki/User:Remsense" title="User:Remsense"><span style="color:#fff"><b>Remsense</b></span></a><span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span lang="zh" style="color:#fff"><b>论</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Remsense-20241118210900-Therealbey-20241118210500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:09, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Remsense-20241118210900-Therealbey-20241118210500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Remsense-20241118210900-Therealbey-20241118210500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Therealbey-20241118211500-Remsense-20241118210900"></span>then whats the problem on adding Jesus son of Mary? <a href="/wiki/User:Therealbey" title="User:Therealbey">Therealbey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Therealbey" title="User talk:Therealbey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Therealbey-20241118211500-Remsense-20241118210900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Therealbey-20241118211500-Remsense-20241118210900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Therealbey-20241118211500-Remsense-20241118210900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Remsense-20241118211800-Therealbey-20241118211500"></span>I'm certainly not horse trading content across different articles with you, and I'm not discussing content issues here. If you want to discuss the lead of <a href="/wiki/Jesus" title="Jesus">Jesus</a>, please do so at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Jesus" title="Talk:Jesus">Talk:Jesus</a>. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F"><a href="/wiki/User:Remsense" title="User:Remsense"><span style="color:#fff"><b>Remsense</b></span></a><span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span lang="zh" style="color:#fff"><b>论</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Remsense-20241118211800-Therealbey-20241118211500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Remsense-20241118211800-Therealbey-20241118211500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Remsense-20241118211800-Therealbey-20241118211500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002900"></span>ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119002900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002900-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! 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This is my answer to the <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">no idea why we're being so effusive in the section headers</q> edit summary that followed my edit. </p><p>All the best! <b><a href="/wiki/User:BrocadeRiverPoems" title="User:BrocadeRiverPoems"><span style="font-family:vivaldi; color:Purple;">Brocade River Poems (She/They)</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-BrocadeRiverPoems-20241119094600-Axis_Leaders" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:46, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BrocadeRiverPoems-20241119094600-Axis_Leaders"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BrocadeRiverPoems-20241119094600-Axis_Leaders"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question-20241119224800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question-20241119224800"></span>Question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question-20241119224800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ur_frnd-20241119224800-Question"></span>Hello Remsense! I would like to ask you, as a native English speaker, about whether the following sentence sounds good and non-confusing. The article in question is <a href="/wiki/Music" title="Music">Music</a>. So, I quote: "During the 19th century, the focus on sheet music had restricted access to new music to middle and upper-class people who could read music and who owned pianos and other instruments." </p><p>The meaning of the sentence ought to be that middle and upper-class people were the only ones to enjoy full access to music at the time. But the way it is written now seems a bit confusing to me because I feel like "to" might be understood in a way that sheet music actually restricted access that middle and upper-class people had had. So I thought rewriting it something like "During the 19th century, access to new music was largely restricted to middle and upper-class people who could read sheet music..." Please tell me, do you see the same equivocal meaning in the sentence or it is fine as it is? <a href="/wiki/User:Ur_frnd" title="User:Ur frnd">Ur frnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ur_frnd" title="User talk:Ur frnd">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Ur_frnd-20241119224800-Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ur_frnd-20241119224800-Question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ur_frnd-20241119224800-Question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JMF-20241120120600-Ur_frnd-20241119224800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ur_frnd" title="User:Ur frnd">Ur frnd</a>:</span> This sort of question is best asked at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Music" title="Talk:Music">talk:Music</a>, where there are many more people who can advise. --<a href="/wiki/User:JMF" title="User:JMF">𝕁𝕄𝔽</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JMF" title="User talk:JMF">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-JMF-20241120120600-Ur_frnd-20241119224800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:06, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a> <span style="font-size:smaller;">(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)<span data-mw-comment-end="c-JMF-20241120120600-Ur_frnd-20241119224800"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JMF-20241120120600-Ur_frnd-20241119224800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FYI" data-mw-thread-id="h-FYI-20241120022200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FYI-20241120022200"></span>FYI<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FYI-20241120022200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: FYI"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/RussianFanboy2010" title="Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/RussianFanboy2010"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moxy-20241120022200-FYI"></span>Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/RussianFanboy2010</a> <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue"><a href="/wiki/User:Moxy" title="User:Moxy">Moxy</a></span>🍁 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Moxy-20241120022200-FYI" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:22, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moxy-20241120022200-FYI"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moxy-20241120022200-FYI"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="question_about_revert" data-mw-thread-id="h-question_about_revert-20241120113400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-question_about_revert-20241120113400"></span>question about revert<span data-mw-comment-end="h-question_about_revert-20241120113400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: question about revert"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gaismagorm-20241120113400-question_about_revert"></span>Recently you reverted an edit on the talk page for <a href="/wiki/Talk:Muhammad" title="Talk:Muhammad">Muhammad</a>. I'm not quite sure why though as the comment the IP made seemed fairly reasonable.<br/> The edit in question:<a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Muhammad&diff=prev&oldid=1258533983">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Muhammad&diff=prev&oldid=1258533983</a><br/> as such I decided to revert it, and bring the comment back. <span style="font-family: Arial; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Gaismagorm" title="User:Gaismagorm"><span style="color: teal">Gaismagorm</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gaismagorm" title="User talk:Gaismagorm"><span style="color: teal">(talk)</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Gaismagorm-20241120113400-question_about_revert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gaismagorm-20241120113400-question_about_revert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gaismagorm-20241120113400-question_about_revert"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="November_thanks" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_thanks-20241120175600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-November_thanks-20241120175600"></span>November thanks<span data-mw-comment-end="h-November_thanks-20241120175600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: November thanks"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241120175600-November_thanks"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1126788409">.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul{line-height:inherit;list-style:none;margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol li,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul li{margin-bottom:0}</style><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1257001546">.mw-parser-output .infobox-subbox{padding:0;border:none;margin:-3px;width:auto;min-width:100%;font-size:100%;clear:none;float:none;background-color:transparent}.mw-parser-output .infobox-3cols-child{margin:auto}.mw-parser-output .infobox .navbar{font-size:100%}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme)>div:not(.notheme)[style]{background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme) div:not(.notheme){background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media(min-width:640px){body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table{display:table!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>caption{display:table-caption!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>tbody{display:table-row-group}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table tr{display:table-row!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table th,body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table td{padding-left:inherit;padding-right:inherit}}</style><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Apple_tree_in_field,_detail,_Ehrenbach.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Apple_tree_in_field%2C_detail%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/180px-Apple_tree_in_field%2C_detail%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg" decoding="async" width="180" height="135" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Apple_tree_in_field%2C_detail%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/270px-Apple_tree_in_field%2C_detail%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Apple_tree_in_field%2C_detail%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/360px-Apple_tree_in_field%2C_detail%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4000" data-file-height="3000"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#3_Nov" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <p>Thank you for improving articles in November! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241120175600-November_thanks" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241120175600-November_thanks"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20241120175600-November_thanks"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template_question-20241121003100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template_question-20241121003100"></span>Template question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template_question-20241121003100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Template question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lachy70-20241121003100-Template_question"></span>Hi, I might be asking the wrong person for this question, but perhaps do you know why the template "<a href="/wiki/Template:Lzh" title="Template:Lzh">Template:Lzh</a>" seems to be using a Taiwanese font? For example, 有 is typically written as 月 which is also seen in historical texts such as in the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.kangxizidian.com/v1/index.php?page=504">Kangxi dictionary</a> (<a href="/wiki/Jiu_zixing" title="Jiu zixing">inherited glyphs</a>). But in the Taiwanese standard, they prefer to write it as ⺼ which is modern orthography (Traditional Chinese characters ≠ Literary Chinese characters). Another example would be 遣 where the radical ⻌ would be written as ⻍ according to the <a href="/wiki/Jiu_zixing" title="Jiu zixing">inherited glyphs</a>, while the Taiwanese standard is ⻎. The template uses ⻎ instead of ⻍. </p><p>How would one change it so that the template would use fonts (such as I.Ming) that are based on the <a href="/wiki/Jiu_zixing" title="Jiu zixing">inherited glyphs</a> rather than the Taiwanese Traditional characters fonts (which are based on handwriting and their own standard)? <a href="/wiki/User:Lachy70" title="User:Lachy70">Lachy70</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lachy70" title="User talk:Lachy70">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Lachy70-20241121003100-Template_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lachy70-20241121003100-Template_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lachy70-20241121003100-Template_question"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Are_you_watching_my_Contributions_page?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Are_you_watching_my_Contributions_page?-20241121005600"><span id="Are_you_watching_my_Contributions_page.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Are_you_watching_my_Contributions_page?-20241121005600"></span>Are you watching my Contributions page?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Are_you_watching_my_Contributions_page?-20241121005600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Are you watching my Contributions page?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:UnsungHistory" title="User:UnsungHistory"><span style="color: Purple"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-UnsungHistory-20241121005600-Are_you_watching_my_Contributions_page?"></span>UnsungHistory</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:UnsungHistory" title="User talk:UnsungHistory"><span style="color: Purple">Questions?</span></a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/UnsungHistory" title="Special:Contributions/UnsungHistory"><span style="color: red">Did I mess up?</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-UnsungHistory-20241121005600-Are_you_watching_my_Contributions_page?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-UnsungHistory-20241121005600-Are_you_watching_my_Contributions_page?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-UnsungHistory-20241121005600-Are_you_watching_my_Contributions_page?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Remsense-20241121005800-UnsungHistory-20241121005600"></span>I do generally take a look at the contributions of users I see making certain types of errors, but I'm not "watching" it continuously, no. I have <a href="/wiki/Hawaii" title="Hawaii">Hawaii</a> on my watchlist, if you're wondering about the most recent engagement. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F"><a href="/wiki/User:Remsense" title="User:Remsense"><span style="color:#fff"><b>Remsense</b></span></a><span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span lang="zh" style="color:#fff"><b>论</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Remsense-20241121005800-UnsungHistory-20241121005600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Remsense-20241121005800-UnsungHistory-20241121005600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Remsense-20241121005800-UnsungHistory-20241121005600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-UnsungHistory-20241121021300-Remsense-20241121005800"></span>It is just,you reverted some of my edits,that got me wondering <a href="/wiki/User:UnsungHistory" title="User:UnsungHistory"><span style="color: Purple">UnsungHistory</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:UnsungHistory" title="User talk:UnsungHistory"><span style="color: Purple">Questions?</span></a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/UnsungHistory" title="Special:Contributions/UnsungHistory"><span style="color: red">Did I mess up?</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-UnsungHistory-20241121021300-Remsense-20241121005800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-UnsungHistory-20241121021300-Remsense-20241121005800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-UnsungHistory-20241121021300-Remsense-20241121005800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Page_number_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-Page_number_template-20241121081100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Page_number_template-20241121081100"></span>Page number template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Page_number_template-20241121081100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Page number template"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nicknimh-20241121081100-Page_number_template"></span>The reason I changed that is because on the Wikipedia Android app, formatting the sfn that way breaks it entirely and causes it to display as blank. Are you certain that nesting the templates that way is a valid format? PN's documentation says to put it after the reference. But it may be you know more about it than I do, and the Android thing is a bug with the template or app and not an issue with how it's being used. <a href="/wiki/User:Nicknimh" title="User:Nicknimh">Nicknimh</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nicknimh" title="User talk:Nicknimh">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Nicknimh-20241121081100-Page_number_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:11, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nicknimh-20241121081100-Page_number_template"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nicknimh-20241121081100-Page_number_template"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Folly_Mox-20241121092100-Nicknimh-20241121081100"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> Probably the best route here is to sub in <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Harvp" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Harvp">harvp</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> for <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Sfnp" title="Template:Sfnp">sfnp</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>, so there can be a pair of ref tags to put <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Pn" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Pn">pn</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> inside of. This gets it out of the body prose and into the references section where it's expected, and produces standard formatting (even on Minerva, nesting pn inside sfnp produces a silly looking trailing dot like <span class="nowrap">"p. <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1255586131">.mw-parser-output .fakelinks{color:var(--color-progressive,#0645ad);cursor:default}.mw-parser-output .fakelinks:hover{color:var(--color-progressive--hover,#0645ad)}</style><sup class="reference nowrap ltr fakelinks">[page needed]</sup>."</span>). <a href="/wiki/User:Folly_Mox" title="User:Folly Mox">Folly Mox</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Folly_Mox" title="User talk:Folly Mox">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Folly_Mox-20241121092100-Nicknimh-20241121081100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Folly_Mox-20241121092100-Nicknimh-20241121081100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Folly_Mox-20241121092100-Nicknimh-20241121081100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_reverting_some_of_my_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_reverting_some_of_my_edits-20241121175400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_reverting_some_of_my_edits-20241121175400"></span>About reverting some of my edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_reverting_some_of_my_edits-20241121175400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: About reverting some of my edits"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AssanEcho-20241121175400-About_reverting_some_of_my_edits"></span>Hey, Remsense. I've noticed you've undone almost every single edit I've made since my last post on the <a href="/wiki/Russian_civil_war" class="mw-redirect" title="Russian civil war">russian civil war</a>'s talk page. I will admit that the last two edits I made are unnecessary, when it comes to minor edits I'm unsure about I follow <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOLD">WP:BOLD</a> and won't protest if they are undone (for example, Russian civil war's infobox). But I don't see the point or reason for the reversion of the <a href="/wiki/Cheta" class="mw-disambig" title="Cheta">cheta</a> or <a href="/wiki/Modus_vivendi" title="Modus vivendi">modus vivendi</a> when I genuinely can't see the any problem with them and you haven't listed any reason in your edit contributions. Thanks for reading! <a href="/wiki/User:AssanEcho" title="User:AssanEcho">AssanEcho</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AssanEcho" title="User talk:AssanEcho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-AssanEcho-20241121175400-About_reverting_some_of_my_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AssanEcho-20241121175400-About_reverting_some_of_my_edits"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AssanEcho-20241121175400-About_reverting_some_of_my_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Remsense-20241122201700-AssanEcho-20241121175400"></span>Apologies both for the confusion and the late response. On <a href="/wiki/Modus_vivendi" title="Modus vivendi">modus vivendi</a>, I thought your edits were overlinking. On <a href="/wiki/Cheta_(armed_group)" title="Cheta (armed group)">Cheta (armed group)</a>, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:HATNOTE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HATNOTE">WP:HATNOTE</a> such a hatnote should generally be sufficient to dispossess the reader of confusion without further elaboration. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F"><a href="/wiki/User:Remsense" title="User:Remsense"><span style="color:#fff"><b>Remsense</b></span></a><span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span lang="zh" style="color:#fff"><b>论</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Remsense-20241122201700-AssanEcho-20241121175400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Remsense-20241122201700-AssanEcho-20241121175400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Remsense-20241122201700-AssanEcho-20241121175400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AssanEcho-20241122204000-Remsense-20241122201700"></span>Ah I understand now. Thank you very much. Sorry if it also comes off as me whining about you back in the tea house, I was just anxious since I thought those edits were good and I really didn't want to bother you. You're the MVP! <a href="/wiki/User:AssanEcho" title="User:AssanEcho">AssanEcho</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AssanEcho" title="User talk:AssanEcho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-AssanEcho-20241122204000-Remsense-20241122201700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AssanEcho-20241122204000-Remsense-20241122201700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AssanEcho-20241122204000-Remsense-20241122201700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Talk_page_guidelines" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talk_page_guidelines-20241122125000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talk_page_guidelines-20241122125000"></span>Talk page guidelines<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talk_page_guidelines-20241122125000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Talk page guidelines"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-K8h3ds21-20241122125000-Talk_page_guidelines"></span>I am not sure that you have understood the Talk page guidelines. Anyone can alter the heading of a Talk page section. It is only edits by another editor outside the heading that cannot be altered. See <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines</a> . <a href="/wiki/User:K8h3ds21" title="User:K8h3ds21">K8h3ds21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:K8h3ds21" title="User talk:K8h3ds21">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-K8h3ds21-20241122125000-Talk_page_guidelines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:50, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-K8h3ds21-20241122125000-Talk_page_guidelines"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-K8h3ds21-20241122125000-Talk_page_guidelines"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Remsense-20241122125100-K8h3ds21-20241122125000"></span>You are incorrect in your interpretation: there is no reason to edit others' comments the vast majority of the time, so please refrain from doing so. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F"><a href="/wiki/User:Remsense" title="User:Remsense"><span style="color:#fff"><b>Remsense</b></span></a><span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span lang="zh" style="color:#fff"><b>论</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Remsense-20241122125100-K8h3ds21-20241122125000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Remsense-20241122125100-K8h3ds21-20241122125000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Remsense-20241122125100-K8h3ds21-20241122125000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Judaeo-Papiamento_under_"Sephardic_Jews:_Languages:_Traditional"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Judaeo-Papiamento_under_"Sephardic_Jews:_Languages:_Traditional"-20241122161900"><span id="Judaeo-Papiamento_under_.22Sephardic_Jews:_Languages:_Traditional.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Judaeo-Papiamento_under_"Sephardic_Jews:_Languages:_Traditional"-20241122161900"></span>Judaeo-Papiamento under "Sephardic Jews: Languages: Traditional"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Judaeo-Papiamento_under_"Sephardic_Jews:_Languages:_Traditional"-20241122161900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Judaeo-Papiamento under "Sephardic Jews: Languages: Traditional""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Conocephalus-20241122161900-Judaeo-Papiamento_under_"Sephardic_Jews:_Languages:_Traditional""></span>Good afternoon. Thank you for correcting my revision to the "Sephardic Jews" page. I was wondering, however, whether it would be appropriate to mention the Sephardic ethnolect of Papiamento in the text of the article. The <i>Jewish Language Project</i> describes this language variety (as "<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jewishlanguages.org/jewish-papiamentu">Jewish Papiamentu</a>") on its website. </p><p><br/> Best regards, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Conocephalus&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Conocephalus (page does not exist)">Conocephalus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Conocephalus" title="User talk:Conocephalus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Conocephalus-20241122161900-Judaeo-Papiamento_under_"Sephardic_Jews:_Languages:_Traditional"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Conocephalus-20241122161900-Judaeo-Papiamento_under_"Sephardic_Jews:_Languages:_Traditional""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Conocephalus-20241122161900-Judaeo-Papiamento_under_"Sephardic_Jews:_Languages:_Traditional""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Remsense-20241122162000-Conocephalus-20241122161900"></span>I would look for a scholarly citation, but I don't see why not. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F"><a href="/wiki/User:Remsense" title="User:Remsense"><span style="color:#fff"><b>Remsense</b></span></a><span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span lang="zh" style="color:#fff"><b>论</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Remsense-20241122162000-Conocephalus-20241122161900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Remsense-20241122162000-Conocephalus-20241122161900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Remsense-20241122162000-Conocephalus-20241122161900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Conocephalus-20241122164700-Remsense-20241122162000"></span>I mentioned the ethnolect in the text of the article, citing Jacobs, Neil G. (2020). "Curaҫao Sephardic Jewish Papiamentu in the Context of Jewish Languages." Would this be sufficient to restore my revision, or should I wait until the matter receive further consideration? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Conocephalus&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Conocephalus (page does not exist)">Conocephalus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Conocephalus" title="User talk:Conocephalus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Conocephalus-20241122164700-Remsense-20241122162000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Conocephalus-20241122164700-Remsense-20241122162000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Conocephalus-20241122164700-Remsense-20241122162000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_2-20241122163800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_2-20241122163800"></span>Question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_2-20241122163800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheAstorPastor-20241122163800-Question_2"></span>Hi there! Regarding <a href="/wiki/Talk:Indian_Rebellion_of_1857#Extended-confirmed-protected_edit_request_on_7_November_2024" title="Talk:Indian Rebellion of 1857">this</a> edit request, I’m curious—how did you access page 51 of the book when the preview only shows the first 22 pages? Did you use a paid library or another resource? I’d love to know! <a href="/wiki/User:TheAstorPastor" title="User:TheAstorPastor"><span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#8B0000; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">The AP </span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheAstorPastor" title="User talk:TheAstorPastor"><span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#AA336A"><i>talk</i></span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-TheAstorPastor-20241122163800-Question_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheAstorPastor-20241122163800-Question_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheAstorPastor-20241122163800-Question_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_message_from_TheWikiToby" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_message_from_TheWikiToby-20241122185400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_message_from_TheWikiToby-20241122185400"></span>New message from TheWikiToby<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_message_from_TheWikiToby-20241122185400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Remsense&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: New message from TheWikiToby"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheWikiToby-20241122185400-New_message_from_TheWikiToby"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/25px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/38px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/50px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> You are invited to join the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#user_not_responding_to_talk_page." title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">Wikipedia:Teahouse § user not responding to talk page.</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:TheWikiToby" title="User:TheWikiToby">TheWikiToby</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheWikiToby" title="User talk:TheWikiToby">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-TheWikiToby-20241122185400-New_message_from_TheWikiToby" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheWikiToby-20241122185400-New_message_from_TheWikiToby"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheWikiToby-20241122185400-New_message_from_TheWikiToby"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Remsense-20241122185600-TheWikiToby-20241122185400"></span>Thank you. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F"><a href="/wiki/User:Remsense" title="User:Remsense"><span style="color:#fff"><b>Remsense</b></span></a><span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span><a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span lang="zh" style="color:#fff"><b>论</b></span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Remsense#c-Remsense-20241122185600-TheWikiToby-20241122185400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Remsense-20241122185600-TheWikiToby-20241122185400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Remsense-20241122185600-TheWikiToby-20241122185400"></span></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; 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