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c10">新婚旅行の撮影データ消えてるとか可哀想過ぎて言葉見つからんわ… </span><a href="https://t.co/V5kjBG2by9" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">twitter.com/www11bigorjpkk…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/dekotora613/status/1068192291070738432" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-30 02:17:42</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='4' data-id='1068348872383033345'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/sr_mineka' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="4" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">マイナス@京都違01</strong> <span class="status_name">@sr_mineka</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>やめてーーー!!書き込みが成功してるように見えて後でデータひらけないとかなったら!!!こころがしぬ!おれる!!</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/sr_mineka/status/1068348872383033345" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-30 12:39:54</a> 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class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/KenrowY/status/1068355367237632000" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-30 13:05:43</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='8' data-id='1068346958480211970'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/matcha_itachi' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="8" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">こってり抹茶イタチ🍵🍗</strong> <span class="status_name">@matcha_itachi</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>そういや未だに新品で買ってもFAT32でフォーマットされてたりするのがあるな</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/matcha_itachi/status/1068346958480211970" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-30 12:32:18</a> </span> </span> </div> <div data-index="9"> <div class="type_markdown"> <h2 class="md-h-1" data-h-index="0">気になるところ <button type="button" class="hidebtn" title="目次" 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class="emj">68氏(8w7, ExTP)</strong> <span class="status_name">@mr68shi</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f17 c07">3GBなんて物理的に可能なんでしょうか?(2のべき乗のイメージ) </span><a href="https://t.co/SNNFI88sQz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">twitter.com/www11bigorjpkk…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/mr68shi/status/1068302945085665280" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-30 09:37:24</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='14' data-id='1068347922910040064'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/Jiji_Dig_Liq' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="13" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">灼灼</strong> <span class="status_name">@Jiji_Dig_Liq</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f17 c07">その「機器からは容量あるように見える」技術、すごく無駄じゃないですかね??????</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/Jiji_Dig_Liq/status/1068347922910040064" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-30 12:36:08</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='15' data-id='1068084659043495936'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/kazuho' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="14" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">Kazuho Oku</strong> <span class="status_name">@kazuho</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>FATの構造的に、存在しないセクタに書き込もうとしてエラーになると思ってたけど、<span class="f17 c07">ラベルとフォーマットだけじゃなくてコントローラレベルで細工してるケースがあるってこと? </span>そこまでがんばるメリットがわかんない <a href="https://t.co/TwX1m64WOp" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">twitter.com/www11bigorjpkk…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/kazuho/status/1068084659043495936" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-29 19:10:01</a> </span> </span> </div> <div data-index="16"> <div class="type_markdown"> <h2 class="md-h-1" data-h-index="0">メルカリだけの問題ではない <button type="button" class="hidebtn" title="目次" onclick="openDialog('/dialog/index/1293557');"><svg class="svg-icon fa-list-alt"><use xlink:href="#list-alt" /></svg></button> </h2> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='17' data-id='1068348269418311680'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/0mrg' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="15" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">すめらぎ - Sumeragi</strong> <span class="status_name">@0mrg</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>メルカリで電化製品買うのがまずわからん</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/0mrg/status/1068348269418311680" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-30 12:37:31</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='18' data-id='1068280369869336577'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/qzc07475' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="16" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">Imprezza@柱島提督</strong> <span class="status_name">@qzc07475</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>これ、<span class="f17 c11">朝日の記事ではメルカリがー、って書いてるけど、個人(犯罪グループ?)がそこまでコストかけてまでやらんでしょ… </span><a href="https://t.co/m8QcD48Wm1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">twitter.com/www11bigorjpkk…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/qzc07475/status/1068280369869336577" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-30 08:07:42</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='19' data-id='1068282422834343946'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/orgmrm' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="17" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">みなか™💉💉転職活動中</strong> <span class="status_name">@orgmrm</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f17 c11">メルカリだけでなくAmazonでも容量の割に極端に安いものが混じっており、そういうのがこれに該当するから自分には関係ないという話ではない</span> <a href="https://t.co/0NeFxsdCOg" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">twitter.com/www11bigorjpkk…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/orgmrm/status/1068282422834343946" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-30 08:15:51</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='20' data-id='1068038032316522496'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/www11bigorjpkkk' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="0" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">www11bigorjpkkk</strong> <span class="status_name">@www11bigorjpkkk</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>このFAT偽装なSDカードの話のRTがのびて引用RTとかあるんだけど<span class="f20 c03">「だからメルカリは」「メルカリで買うからだ」</span><span class="f20 c09">とか、そんなことないからねコレ。アマゾンとか楽天で商品検索して出てきた奴をポチしても普通に混じってる。誰であろうが(ITに詳しい人だろうが)普通に踏む可能性ある奴だぞ。</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/www11bigorjpkkk/status/1068038032316522496" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-29 16:04:44</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='21' data-id='1068109134917099520'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/uchiakars' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="18" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">内赤RS 💉PPMPP(漂流中</strong> <span class="status_name">@uchiakars</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'>モザイクかけてもバーベイタムってわかっちゃう(^^;; オクの違反通告も期間1日で逃げ切られると間に合わないんだよなぁ・・・ <a href="https://t.co/XeadeHHGIM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">twitter.com/www11bigorjpkk…</a></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/uchiakars/status/1068109134917099520" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-29 20:47:16</a> </span> </span> </div> <div data-index="22"> <div class="type_markdown"> <h3 class="md-h-2" data-h-index="0">経験談</h3> </div> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='23' data-id='1068072936165134336'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/IMD555' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="19" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">歯科 9/19 15:00 形成外科 10/8 10:00</strong> <span class="status_name">@IMD555</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><a href="https://x.com/www11bigorjpkkk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">@www11bigorjpkkk</a><span class="f17 c08"> 3年位前にアマゾンで買ってしまいました。</span> <span class="f17 c08">128GBのふりした8GBでした。</span> <span class="f17 c08">後から書いたデータが残るような動作をしていたと思います。</span> アマゾンで買うなら出品者を家電量販店かPCショップ系にするとよさそうです。</p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/IMD555/status/1068072936165134336" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-29 18:23:26</a> </span> </span> </div> <div class='list_box type_tweet impl_profile' data-index='24' data-id='1068111196916604930'> <span> <a class="user_link" rel="noreferrer" href='https://x.com/IMD555' target='_blank'> <img class="lzpk " data-s="19" src="https://s.tgstc.com/static/web/p.gif" data-e="1" /> <strong class="emj">歯科 9/19 15:00 形成外科 10/8 10:00</strong> <span class="status_name">@IMD555</span> </a> </span> <p class='tweet emj'><span class="f20 c03">カメラの場合、撮ったら古いファイルから勝手に消えていくので最悪です。</span><span class="f17 c19"> </span><span class="f17 c08">信頼できるルートで買ったとしても、使う前に、パソコン等で容量いっぱいまでファイルを書き込んでみたほうがいいです。</span></p> <span class='status'> <span class="intent"></span> <span> <a class="link" href="https://x.com/IMD555/status/1068111196916604930" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">2018-11-29 20:55:28</a> </span> </span> </div> <div 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