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Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>The sentence "When Banquo asks of his own fortunes, the witches respond paradoxically, saying that he will be less than Macbeth, yet happier, and less successful, yet more" kinda sucks. The play said Banquo would be "less happy, yet much happier", and "lesser than Macbeth, yet much greater". This sentence should be changed so that it's clearer on what it's conveying. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:BananaCat2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:BananaCat2 (page does not exist)">BananaCat2</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BananaCat2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:BananaCat2 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macbeth#c-BananaCat2-20230512015200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_12_May_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:52, 12 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BananaCat2-20230512015200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_12_May_2023"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BananaCat2-20230512015200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_12_May_2023"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paper9oll-20230512034500-BananaCat2-20230512015200"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/20px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/30px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/40px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="62" data-file-height="62"/></span></span> <b>Not done:</b> it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EDITXY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EDITXY">"change X to Y" format</a> and provide a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">reliable source</a> if appropriate. <b><span style="color:#f535aa">—</span> <a href="/wiki/User:Paper9oll" title="User:Paper9oll"><span style="background:#f535aa;color:#fff;padding:2px;border-radius:5px">Paper9oll</span></a> <span style="color:#f535aa">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paper9oll" title="User talk:Paper9oll">🔔</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Paper9oll" title="Special:Contributions/Paper9oll">📝</a>)</span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macbeth#c-Paper9oll-20230512034500-BananaCat2-20230512015200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 12 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paper9oll-20230512034500-BananaCat2-20230512015200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paper9oll-20230512034500-BananaCat2-20230512015200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AndyJones-20230512122400-Paper9oll-20230512034500"></span>Yes, I agree with BananaCat2. I thought the best response was to remove the sentence entirely, just leaving the plot point intact. I've edited accordingly. <a href="/wiki/User:AndyJones" title="User:AndyJones">AndyJones</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AndyJones" title="User talk:AndyJones">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macbeth#c-AndyJones-20230512122400-Paper9oll-20230512034500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 12 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AndyJones-20230512122400-Paper9oll-20230512034500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AndyJones-20230512122400-Paper9oll-20230512034500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_method_of_Lady_Macbeth's_suicide_is_undisclosed" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_method_of_Lady_Macbeth's_suicide_is_undisclosed-20230514174600"><span id="The_method_of_Lady_Macbeth.27s_suicide_is_undisclosed"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_method_of_Lady_Macbeth's_suicide_is_undisclosed-20230514174600"></span>The method of Lady Macbeth's suicide is undisclosed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_method_of_Lady_Macbeth's_suicide_is_undisclosed-20230514174600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macbeth&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: The method of Lady Macbeth's suicide is undisclosed"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-67.180.143.89-20230514174600-The_method_of_Lady_Macbeth's_suicide_is_undisclosed"></span>Generally, plot summaries should avoid saying that some off-stage detail is "unclear" or "undisclosed," because it mixes analysis with narration, and no work is perfectly detailed. Also, the opening sentence might say "tragic play" rather than "tragedy." <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.180.143.89" title="Special:Contributions/67.180.143.89">67.180.143.89</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:67.180.143.89" title="User talk:67.180.143.89">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macbeth#c-67.180.143.89-20230514174600-The_method_of_Lady_Macbeth's_suicide_is_undisclosed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:46, 14 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-67.180.143.89-20230514174600-The_method_of_Lady_Macbeth's_suicide_is_undisclosed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-67.180.143.89-20230514174600-The_method_of_Lady_Macbeth's_suicide_is_undisclosed"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AndyJones-20230515123400-67.180.143.89-20230514174600"></span>I would have agreed with you, except that the plot summary does not say what you say it says. The relevant sentence in the synopsis says: "Before Macbeth's opponents arrive, he receives news that Lady Macbeth has killed herself, causing him to sink into a deep and pessimistic despair...". So I cannot tell what your point is. Can you explain more clearly what you want to change? <a href="/wiki/User:AndyJones" title="User:AndyJones">AndyJones</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AndyJones" title="User talk:AndyJones">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macbeth#c-AndyJones-20230515123400-67.180.143.89-20230514174600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:34, 15 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AndyJones-20230515123400-67.180.143.89-20230514174600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AndyJones-20230515123400-67.180.143.89-20230514174600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AndyJones-20230515123700-AndyJones-20230515123400"></span>I've found it. It's two paragraphs later. I'll remove it. <a href="/wiki/User:AndyJones" title="User:AndyJones">AndyJones</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AndyJones" title="User talk:AndyJones">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macbeth#c-AndyJones-20230515123700-AndyJones-20230515123400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:37, 15 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AndyJones-20230515123700-AndyJones-20230515123400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AndyJones-20230515123700-AndyJones-20230515123400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AndyJones-20230515124200-AndyJones-20230515123700"></span>Done. However I don't agree with the suggestion to change "tragedy" to "tragic play". We've always defined the plays according to the categories in the First Folio. <a href="/wiki/User:AndyJones" title="User:AndyJones">AndyJones</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AndyJones" title="User talk:AndyJones">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macbeth#c-AndyJones-20230515124200-AndyJones-20230515123700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:42, 15 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AndyJones-20230515124200-AndyJones-20230515123700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AndyJones-20230515124200-AndyJones-20230515123700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Indian_movie_adaptation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Indian_movie_adaptation-20230815191300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Indian_movie_adaptation-20230815191300"></span>Indian movie adaptation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Indian_movie_adaptation-20230815191300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macbeth&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Indian movie adaptation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nabrina73-20230815191300-Indian_movie_adaptation"></span>The Indian super hit movie <a href="/wiki/Maqbool" title="Maqbool">Maqbool</a> by film director <a href="/wiki/Vishal_Bharadwaj" class="mw-redirect" title="Vishal Bharadwaj">Vishal Bharadwaj</a> is an adaptation of <a href="/wiki/Macbeth" title="Macbeth">Macbeth</a>. The director made a few changes: The three witches were replaced by 2 corrupt police constables, Lady Macbeth was removed and instead the wife of the Mafia Don Abbaji (King Duncan) is seen plays the conniving woman and has an adulterous affair with <a href="/wiki/Irrfan_Khan" title="Irrfan Khan">Irrfan Khan</a> who essays the titular role, and their affair is the reason why Maqbool kills Abbaji. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Nabrina73&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Nabrina73 (page does not exist)">Nabrina73</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nabrina73" title="User talk:Nabrina73">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macbeth#c-Nabrina73-20230815191300-Indian_movie_adaptation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:13, 15 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nabrina73-20230815191300-Indian_movie_adaptation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nabrina73-20230815191300-Indian_movie_adaptation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Semi-protected_edit_request_on_12_March_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_12_March_2024-20240312042200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_12_March_2024-20240312042200"></span>Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_12_March_2024-20240312042200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macbeth&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LangstonMitchell-20240312042200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_12_March_2024"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Capitalize the "contrary" in the sentence "contrary to popular myth, Shakespeare's tragedy Macbeth is not the unluckiest play as superstition likes to portray it." <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:LangstonMitchell&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:LangstonMitchell (page does not exist)">LangstonMitchell</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LangstonMitchell" title="User talk:LangstonMitchell">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macbeth#c-LangstonMitchell-20240312042200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_12_March_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:22, 12 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LangstonMitchell-20240312042200-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_12_March_2024"><span 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It is less important for a fictional character, but I think it's still good to use better phrasing. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:1C0:4C01:5F70:C0D0:1871:8460:7CC1" title="Special:Contributions/2601:1C0:4C01:5F70:C0D0:1871:8460:7CC1">2601:1C0:4C01:5F70:C0D0:1871:8460:7CC1</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:1C0:4C01:5F70:C0D0:1871:8460:7CC1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:1C0:4C01:5F70:C0D0:1871:8460:7CC1 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macbeth#c-2601:1C0:4C01:5F70:C0D0:1871:8460:7CC1-20241117200300-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_17_November_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:1C0:4C01:5F70:C0D0:1871:8460:7CC1-20241117200300-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_17_November_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:1C0:4C01:5F70:C0D0:1871:8460:7CC1-20241117200300-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_17_November_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mediatech492-20241118031100-2601:1C0:4C01:5F70:C0D0:1871:8460:7CC1-20241117200300"></span>I think this is an overemphasis on one very specific definition of the word "commit".The word commit implies neither immorality nor criminal behaviour. If a politician commits himself to a particular government policy, should we impeach him? Is it a crime or immoral when a romantic couple make a commitment to each other? Or you commit your grandmother to a care home? Besides, changing the terminology does not change the nature of the act. Suicide is a tragedy, no matter what you call it.<a href="/wiki/User:Mediatech492" title="User:Mediatech492">Mediatech492</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mediatech492" title="User talk:Mediatech492">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macbeth#c-Mediatech492-20241118031100-2601:1C0:4C01:5F70:C0D0:1871:8460:7CC1-20241117200300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:11, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mediatech492-20241118031100-2601:1C0:4C01:5F70:C0D0:1871:8460:7CC1-20241117200300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mediatech492-20241118031100-2601:1C0:4C01:5F70:C0D0:1871:8460:7CC1-20241117200300"></span></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macbeth&oldid=1258156327">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Macbeth&oldid=1258156327</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Categories</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_level-4_vital_articles" title="Category:C-Class level-4 vital articles">C-Class level-4 vital articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_level-4_vital_articles_in_Arts" title="Category:Wikipedia level-4 vital articles in Arts">Wikipedia level-4 vital articles in Arts</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_vital_articles_in_Arts" title="Category:C-Class vital articles in Arts">C-Class vital articles in Arts</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_Shakespeare_articles" title="Category:C-Class Shakespeare articles">C-Class Shakespeare articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Top-importance_Shakespeare_articles" title="Category:Top-importance Shakespeare articles">Top-importance Shakespeare articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Shakespeare_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Shakespeare articles">WikiProject Shakespeare articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:C-Class_Theatre_articles" title="Category:C-Class Theatre articles">C-Class Theatre articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:High-importance_Theatre_articles" title="Category:High-importance Theatre articles">High-importance Theatre articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Theatre_articles" title="Category:WikiProject Theatre articles">WikiProject Theatre articles</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_semi-protected_edit_requests" title="Category:Wikipedia semi-protected edit requests">Wikipedia semi-protected edit requests</a></li></ul></div><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:All_Wikipedia_vital_articles" title="Category:All Wikipedia vital articles">All Wikipedia vital articles</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 18 November 2024, at 12:12<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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