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Just because they have the 'Dungeon's and Dragon's' name in the title despite having mostly nothing to do with one another? Seems rather odd. Most the games have D&D in the titles on the box somewhere so shouldn't they all be the 'main series'? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.32.30.248" title="Special:Contributions/82.32.30.248">82.32.30.248</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:82.32.30.248" title="User talk:82.32.30.248">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-82.32.30.248-2011-05-16T20:53:00.000Z-Main_Series" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-82.32.30.248-2011-05-16T20:53:00.000Z-Main_Series"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-16T20:53:00.000Z","author":"82.32.30.248","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-82.32.30.248-2011-05-16T20:53:00.000Z-Main_Series","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-82.32.30.248-2011-05-16T20:53:00.000Z-Main_Series"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Link_to_Creature_description,_not_the_General_D&D_page_for_the_creature.-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z-Link_to_Creature_description,_not_the_General_D&D_page_for_the_creature."],"text":"Link to Creature description, not the General D&D page for the creature.","linkableTitle":"Link to Creature description, not the General D&D page for the creature."}--><h2 id="Link_to_Creature_description,_not_the_General_D&D_page_for_the_creature." data-mw-thread-id="h-Link_to_Creature_description,_not_the_General_D&D_page_for_the_creature.-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z"><span id="Link_to_Creature_description.2C_not_the_General_D.26D_page_for_the_creature."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Link_to_Creature_description,_not_the_General_D&D_page_for_the_creature.-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z"></span>Link to Creature description, not the General D&D page for the creature.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Link_to_Creature_description,_not_the_General_D&D_page_for_the_creature.-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:D%26D_topics&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Link to Creature description, not the General D&D page for the creature."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Link_to_Creature_description,_not_the_General_D&D_page_for_the_creature.-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z-Link_to_Creature_description,_not_the_General_D&D_page_for_the_creature."]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-129.33.19.254-2011-08-29T16:31:00.000Z-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z","timestamp":"2011-08-29T16:31:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Link_to_Creature_description,_not_the_General_D&D_page_for_the_creature.-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z-Link_to_Creature_description,_not_the_General_D&D_page_for_the_creature."],"text":"Link to Creature description, not the General D&D page for the creature.","linkableTitle":"Link to Creature description, not the General D&D page for the creature."}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z-Link_to_Creature_description,_not_the_General_D&D_page_for_the_creature."></span>I'm not sure if this is the case for all creatures, but it is for Halfling. If Halfling (D&D) does not have the complete information, what's the point of including it? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/92.20.206.252" title="Special:Contributions/92.20.206.252">92.20.206.252</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:92.20.206.252&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:92.20.206.252 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z-Link_to_Creature_description,_not_the_General_D&D_page_for_the_creature." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 29 August 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z-Link_to_Creature_description,_not_the_General_D&D_page_for_the_creature."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-129.33.19.254-2011-08-29T16:31:00.000Z-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 29 August 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-129.33.19.254-2011-08-29T16:31:00.000Z-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-29T16:31:00.000Z","author":"129.33.19.254","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-129.33.19.254-2011-08-29T16:31:00.000Z-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-129.33.19.254-2011-08-29T16:31:00.000Z-92.20.206.252-2011-08-29T15:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Gold_Box" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gold_Box"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gold_Box"></span>Gold Box<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gold_Box"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:D%26D_topics&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Gold Box"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Gold_Box","replies":[]}}--></div> <p>Under the video games, I'd like to see the Gold box games have their own subcategory, under which would be the Krynn, Pools of Radiance and the Savage Frontier sagas along with Unlimited Adventures. </p><p>After all, it was the game series that defined AD&D for a generation of gamers. – T.V., 05:49, 23 January 2014 (UTC) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/81.175.192.20" title="Special:Contributions/81.175.192.20">81.175.192.20</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:81.175.192.20&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:81.175.192.20 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) </span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Controversies_Placement-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z-Controversies_Placement"],"text":"Controversies Placement","linkableTitle":"Controversies Placement"}--><h2 id="Controversies_Placement" data-mw-thread-id="h-Controversies_Placement-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Controversies_Placement-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z"></span>Controversies Placement<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Controversies_Placement-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:D%26D_topics&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Controversies Placement"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Controversies_Placement-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z-Controversies_Placement"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Lowercaserho-2019-06-15T00:13:00.000Z-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z","timestamp":"2019-06-15T00:13:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Controversies_Placement-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z-Controversies_Placement"],"text":"Controversies Placement","linkableTitle":"Controversies Placement"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z-Controversies_Placement"></span>It comes to my attention that the first article that the template shows (i.e., ignoring the D&D article) is the <i>Controversies</i> one. I don't believe that should be the first article. I'm a new editor, and still don't know completely the guidelines for templates, but I think it should start with the articles that best describe D&D, and end with the public reaction and criticism, like articles do. If we go to the <a href="/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons" title="Dungeons & Dragons">Dungeons & Dragons</a> article, we see that the <a href="/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons#Controversy_and_notoriety" title="Dungeons & Dragons">Controversies</a> subsection is the last one of the <a href="/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons#Game_history" title="Dungeons & Dragons">Game History</a> section, and the <i>Sources and influences</i>, <i>Editions</i> and <i>Gen Con</i> are all presented before <i>Controversies</i>. Personally, I believe <i>Controversies</i> doesn't even belong to the template, and if it does, it should go right in the end of <i>General</i>. Is there any reason I'm ignoring for this article to be the first one in the template? <a href="/wiki/User:Happy_E._Milk" title="User:Happy E. Milk">Happy E. Milk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Happy_E._Milk" title="User talk:Happy E. Milk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z-Controversies_Placement" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 13 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z-Controversies_Placement"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z","author":"Happy E. Milk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z-Controversies_Placement","replies":["c-Lowercaserho-2019-06-13T20:46:00.000Z-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z-Controversies_Placement"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lowercaserho-2019-06-13T20:46:00.000Z-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z"></span>It seems that the current ordering is just alphabetical, and it's listed first for that reason, basically by happenstance. If you think that some other ordering would be preferable, then I'd encourage you to be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOLD">WP:BOLD</a> and change the order. Personally, I don't think the order matters and am content regardless, though I would definitely disagree with removing the controversies page from the template entirely. <a href="/wiki/User:Lowercaserho" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lowercaserho">Lowercaserho</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lowercaserho" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Lowercaserho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-Lowercaserho-2019-06-13T20:46:00.000Z-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 13 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lowercaserho-2019-06-13T20:46:00.000Z-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-13T20:46:00.000Z","author":"Lowercaserho","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lowercaserho-2019-06-13T20:46:00.000Z-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z-Lowercaserho-2019-06-13T20:46:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lowercaserho-2019-06-13T20:46:00.000Z-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-13T11:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z-Lowercaserho-2019-06-13T20:46:00.000Z"></span>I had completely ignored the alphabetical order. I don't believe it's appropriate for the <i>General</i> row. I would reorder it myself if I could, but the template is locked. <a href="/wiki/User:Happy_E._Milk" title="User:Happy E. Milk">Happy E. Milk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Happy_E._Milk" title="User talk:Happy E. Milk">talk</a>) <small class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">undated</a> comment added <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z-Lowercaserho-2019-06-13T20:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 14 June 2019 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z-Lowercaserho-2019-06-13T20:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z","author":"Happy E. Milk","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z-Lowercaserho-2019-06-13T20:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lowercaserho-2019-06-15T00:13:00.000Z-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z-Lowercaserho-2019-06-13T20:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lowercaserho-2019-06-15T00:13:00.000Z-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z"></span>Oh, so it is. My apologies, I hadn't noticed. In that case, your choices generally would be either to make an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> or -- since this particular template is only semi-protected -- simply to wait until your account is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AUTOCONFIRM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AUTOCONFIRM">autoconfirmed</a> at which point you'll be able to edit it yourself. In this particular case, my recommendation would be to leave a comment on this talk page stating exactly what changes you want to make, including the exact order you want to change to. Then, if nobody objects, simply make the change yourself once your account is autoconfirmed. <a href="/wiki/User:Lowercaserho" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lowercaserho">Lowercaserho</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lowercaserho" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Lowercaserho">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-Lowercaserho-2019-06-15T00:13:00.000Z-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:13, 15 June 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lowercaserho-2019-06-15T00:13:00.000Z-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-15T00:13:00.000Z","author":"Lowercaserho","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Lowercaserho-2019-06-15T00:13:00.000Z-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lowercaserho-2019-06-15T00:13:00.000Z-Happy_E._Milk-2019-06-14T14:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section"],"text":"Add Exandria to Cosmology Section","linkableTitle":"Add Exandria to Cosmology Section"}--><h2 id="Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section" data-mw-thread-id="h-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z"></span>Add Exandria to Cosmology Section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:D%26D_topics&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Add Exandria to Cosmology Section"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-RandomCanadian-2020-05-13T20:42:00.000Z-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z","timestamp":"2020-05-13T20:42:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section"],"text":"Add Exandria to Cosmology Section","linkableTitle":"Add Exandria to Cosmology Section"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Add Exandria to list of cosmologies (link to page for Critical Role) as the publication of The Explorer’s Guide to Wildemount establishes it as an official, WotC-recognized campaign setting. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kennyhitt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kennyhitt (page does not exist)">Kennyhitt</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kennyhitt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Kennyhitt (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 13 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z","author":"Kennyhitt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section","replies":["c-RandomCanadian-2020-05-13T20:42:00.000Z-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z-Add_Exandria_to_Cosmology_Section"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RandomCanadian-2020-05-13T20:42:00.000Z-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/20px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/40px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Question:</b> <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kennyhitt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kennyhitt (page does not exist)">Kennyhitt</a>:</span> Why not add a link directly to <a href="/wiki/Critical_Role" title="Critical Role">Critical Role</a> (in some other place, maybe)? It seems to me that other pages in this category that are listed in the "Cosmology" section have their own page (which is not the case of Exandria, which did not even exist as a redirect, until now that is since I added it) <a href="/wiki/User:RandomCanadian" title="User:RandomCanadian">RandomCanadian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RandomCanadian" title="User talk:RandomCanadian">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian" title="Special:Contributions/RandomCanadian">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-RandomCanadian-2020-05-13T20:42:00.000Z-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 13 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RandomCanadian-2020-05-13T20:42:00.000Z-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-13T20:42:00.000Z","author":"RandomCanadian","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-RandomCanadian-2020-05-13T20:42:00.000Z-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RandomCanadian-2020-05-13T20:42:00.000Z-Kennyhitt-2020-05-13T20:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Campaign_Setting_Rankings-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z-Campaign_Setting_Rankings"],"text":"Campaign Setting Rankings","linkableTitle":"Campaign Setting Rankings"}--><h2 id="Campaign_Setting_Rankings" data-mw-thread-id="h-Campaign_Setting_Rankings-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Campaign_Setting_Rankings-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z"></span>Campaign Setting Rankings<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Campaign_Setting_Rankings-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:D%26D_topics&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Campaign Setting Rankings"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Campaign_Setting_Rankings-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z-Campaign_Setting_Rankings"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Daranios-2020-11-05T20:02:00.000Z-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T17:21:00.000Z","timestamp":"2020-11-05T20:02:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Campaign_Setting_Rankings-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z-Campaign_Setting_Rankings"],"text":"Campaign Setting Rankings","linkableTitle":"Campaign Setting Rankings"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z-Campaign_Setting_Rankings"></span>Hello everyone! Thanks to <a href="/wiki/User:Oranjelo100" title="User:Oranjelo100">Oranjelo100</a> for recent updates of the template. However, I disagree with a number of changes about campaign settings and would like to discuss them here. </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Al-Qadim" title="Al-Qadim">Al-Qadim</a> in my opinion should be counted as a separate campaign setting. Sure, it shares the same planet than the <a href="/wiki/Forgotten_Realms" title="Forgotten Realms">Forgotten Realms</a> and has many links. Sure, it has been discontinued (but that's true of the majority of settings) and what few later mentions there were are under the Forgotten Realms umbrella. But it had its own imprint in 2nd edition days and was much more extensive the many smaller ones mentioned separately.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Kara-Tur" class="mw-redirect" title="Kara-Tur">Kara-Tur</a> has a very similar situation. However, situation is more muddied, as the main box was under the Forgotten Realms logo. But it did have it's own imprint, so I rather tend to have it separately.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Underdark" title="Underdark">Underdark</a> should be kept to a loction, not a sub-setting. It was never called an official campaign setting, or was it?</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Neverwinter" title="Neverwinter">Neverwinter</a> Why was this ever a setting? Sure, it features its own row of games, but the Wikipedia article clearly calls it only a location within the Realms, and I agree.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Forgotten_Realms" title="Forgotten Realms">Forgotten Realms</a> If we want to have sub-setting here, <a href="/wiki/Maztica_Campaign_Set" title="Maztica Campaign Set">Maztica</a> and <a href="/wiki/The_Horde_(boxed_set)" title="The Horde (boxed set)">The Horde</a> were offically called campaing set(ting)s. And <a href="/w/index.php?title=Malatra&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Malatra (page does not exist)">Malatra</a> would be sub-setting of Kara-Tur, right?</li></ul> <p>What do others think? <a href="/wiki/User:Daranios" title="User:Daranios">Daranios</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daranios" title="User talk:Daranios">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z-Campaign_Setting_Rankings" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:34, 5 November 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z-Campaign_Setting_Rankings"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z","author":"Daranios","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z-Campaign_Setting_Rankings","replies":["c-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T14:09:00.000Z-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z-Campaign_Setting_Rankings"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T14:09:00.000Z-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z"></span>I think placing parts of the setting worlds under the main setting name is the best way to organize as it makes it clear at a quick glance to the unfamiliar reader that they are part of a larger setting. This aids their navigation (the main purpose of a navbox) as it allows them to see the more closely related articles more quickly.</dd> <dd>As for which to include, that's a more interesting question. The only reason I can think of that Neverwinter gets mentioned separately is because there was a Neverwinter-specific book towards the latter part of the 4e era; although it is a well-done book, there have been many city or region-specific books for parts of the Realms over the years, and Neverwinter isn't really notably different in that regard; it almost comes off as an outdated bit of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RECENTISM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RECENTISM">WP:RECENTISM</a> to highlight it because of one book that was new when the link was added. I think we can remove it safely.</dd> <dd>I agree that listing the Underdark as a setting isn't quite right. Especially since many worlds have their own Underdarks; in addition to Toril and Oerth, Eberron, Nerath, Mystara, and even Krynn (albeit a smallish one) all have an Underdark. I don't think we need to repeat it so many times. I'm just not sure where to put the link, though, as it's not really a plane of existence; it's very much part of the material plane.</dd> <dd>Speaking of planes of existence and repeated links, I think, per navbox guidelines, we should remove the repeated links from the planes section, and the ones that aren't strictly repeats but instead lead to the article on the worlds themselves should be under the campaign settings entries. We have to be mindful of those articles being largely in-universe and frankly likely to get merged as is slated for the <a href="/wiki/World_of_Eberron" class="mw-redirect" title="World of Eberron">World of Eberron</a> article. They just lack independent notability, really. <a href="/wiki/User:Oknazevad" title="User:Oknazevad">oknazevad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oknazevad" title="User talk:Oknazevad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T14:09:00.000Z-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 5 November 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T14:09:00.000Z-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-11-05T14:09:00.000Z","author":"Oknazevad","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T14:09:00.000Z-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Daranios-2020-11-05T16:19:00.000Z-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T14:09:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T14:09:00.000Z-Daranios-2020-11-05T08:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daranios-2020-11-05T16:19:00.000Z-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T14:09:00.000Z"></span>I have no preference if to put the worlds under planes or campaign settings. As for the Underdark, I am looking at it from the Spelljammer point of view, where the different worlds mentioned under Material Plane are not meant to be <i>different</i> Material Planes but locations within <i>the</i> Material Plane. Then we can let the Underdark remain there as just another (type of) location.</dd> <dd>I don't think we should list <a href="/wiki/Faer%C3%BBn" title="Faerûn">Faerûn</a> with the campaign settings, but rather as <a href="/wiki/Abeir-Toril" title="Abeir-Toril">Abeir-Toril</a> (<a href="/wiki/Faer%C3%BBn" title="Faerûn">Faerûn</a>) under locations within the Material Plane. Except if we decide to move the worlds to the campaign settings.</dd> <dd>Speaking of Recentism, I still prefer Al-Qadim (and possibly Kara-Tur) separate from the Forgotten Realms, because that was the case when Al-Qadim was still published. But I guess I just worry that Al-Qadim is missing out :-). <a href="/wiki/User:Daranios" title="User:Daranios">Daranios</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daranios" title="User talk:Daranios">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-Daranios-2020-11-05T16:19:00.000Z-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T14:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 5 November 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daranios-2020-11-05T16:19:00.000Z-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T14:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-11-05T16:19:00.000Z","author":"Daranios","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Daranios-2020-11-05T16:19:00.000Z-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T14:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T17:21:00.000Z-Daranios-2020-11-05T16:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daranios-2020-11-05T16:19:00.000Z-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T14:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T17:21:00.000Z-Daranios-2020-11-05T16:19:00.000Z"></span>Well, listing Faerûn under the setting is logical. The other reason for sticking the worlds with the settings is keeping the in-universe organization to a minimum. Plus there's the fact that Eberron isn't in the Prime Material Plane, but its own pocket universe in the Astral Plane, but I digress. <a href="/wiki/User:Oknazevad" title="User:Oknazevad">oknazevad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oknazevad" title="User talk:Oknazevad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T17:21:00.000Z-Daranios-2020-11-05T16:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:21, 5 November 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T17:21:00.000Z-Daranios-2020-11-05T16:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-11-05T17:21:00.000Z","author":"Oknazevad","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T17:21:00.000Z-Daranios-2020-11-05T16:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Daranios-2020-11-05T20:02:00.000Z-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T17:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T17:21:00.000Z-Daranios-2020-11-05T16:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daranios-2020-11-05T20:02:00.000Z-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T17:21:00.000Z"></span>Putting the worlds with the settings would be <i>one</i> solution. Renaming the section from "<a href="/wiki/Plane_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)" title="Plane (Dungeons & Dragons)">Planes of existence</a>" to "Locations" would be an other one. But I don't see putting Faerûn under campaign settings as logical as long is this section is really meant for campaign settings, because Faerûn isn't one. The Forgotten Realms are a campaign setting, Faerûn is the major location within this setting. Just like <a href="/wiki/Greyhawk" title="Greyhawk">Greyhawk</a> is a campaign setting, but the <a href="/wiki/Greyhawk#Setting" title="Greyhawk">Flaeness</a> isn't one. <a href="/wiki/User:Daranios" title="User:Daranios">Daranios</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daranios" title="User talk:Daranios">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-Daranios-2020-11-05T20:02:00.000Z-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T17:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 5 November 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daranios-2020-11-05T20:02:00.000Z-Oknazevad-2020-11-05T17:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-162.43.205.40-20230426053200","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Missing_key_creators-20230426053200","replies":["c-162.43.205.40-20230426053200-Missing_key_creators"],"text":"Missing key creators","linkableTitle":"Missing key creators"}--></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/David_Cook_(game_designer)" title="David Cook (game designer)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-162.43.205.40-20230426053200-Missing_key_creators"></span>David Cook (game designer)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Jon_Pickens" title="Jon Pickens">Jon Pickens</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Steve_Winter" title="Steve Winter">Steve Winter</a></li></ul> <p>Those 3 created 2nd edition, with Pickens and Winter also working on 3rd & 5th. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/162.43.205.40" title="Special:Contributions/162.43.205.40">162.43.205.40</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:162.43.205.40&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:162.43.205.40 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-162.43.205.40-20230426053200-Missing_key_creators" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:32, 26 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-162.43.205.40-20230426053200-Missing_key_creators"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230426053200","author":"162.43.205.40","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-162.43.205.40-20230426053200-Missing_key_creators","replies":["c-207.229.139.154-20230426112700-162.43.205.40-20230426053200"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-162.43.205.40-20230426053200-Missing_key_creators"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-207.229.139.154-20230426112700-162.43.205.40-20230426053200"></span>You can just be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BOLD">WP:BOLD</a> and add them, and if someone removes them you can discuss it here. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/207.229.139.154" title="Special:Contributions/207.229.139.154">207.229.139.154</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:207.229.139.154" title="User talk:207.229.139.154">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-207.229.139.154-20230426112700-162.43.205.40-20230426053200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:27, 26 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-207.229.139.154-20230426112700-162.43.205.40-20230426053200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230426112700","author":"207.229.139.154","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-207.229.139.154-20230426112700-162.43.205.40-20230426053200","replies":["c-Oknazevad-20230426122200-207.229.139.154-20230426112700"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-207.229.139.154-20230426112700-162.43.205.40-20230426053200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oknazevad-20230426122200-207.229.139.154-20230426112700"></span>Actually, they can't. The template is semi-protected, meaning I review terse users cannot edit it. I'll add those links. <a href="/wiki/User:Oknazevad" title="User:Oknazevad">oknazevad</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oknazevad" title="User talk:Oknazevad">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-Oknazevad-20230426122200-207.229.139.154-20230426112700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 26 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oknazevad-20230426122200-207.229.139.154-20230426112700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230426122200","author":"Oknazevad","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Oknazevad-20230426122200-207.229.139.154-20230426112700","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oknazevad-20230426122200-207.229.139.154-20230426112700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mika1h-20230515170500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Notable_modules-20230515170500","replies":["c-Mika1h-20230515170500-Notable_modules"],"text":"Notable modules","linkableTitle":"Notable modules"}--><h2 id="Notable_modules" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notable_modules-20230515170500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notable_modules-20230515170500"></span>Notable modules<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notable_modules-20230515170500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:D%26D_topics&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Notable modules"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mika1h-20230515170500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Notable_modules-20230515170500","replies":["c-Mika1h-20230515170500-Notable_modules"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-8.37.179.254-20230515213500-Mika1h-20230515170500","timestamp":"20230515213500"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mika1h-20230515170500","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Notable_modules-20230515170500","replies":["c-Mika1h-20230515170500-Notable_modules"],"text":"Notable modules","linkableTitle":"Notable modules"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mika1h-20230515170500-Notable_modules"></span>What is the criteria to be included among "notable modules"? <a href="/wiki/User:Mika1h" title="User:Mika1h">Mika1h</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mika1h" title="User talk:Mika1h">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-Mika1h-20230515170500-Notable_modules" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 15 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mika1h-20230515170500-Notable_modules"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230515170500","author":"Mika1h","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mika1h-20230515170500-Notable_modules","replies":["c-8.37.179.254-20230515213500-Mika1h-20230515170500"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mika1h-20230515170500-Notable_modules"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-8.37.179.254-20230515213500-Mika1h-20230515170500"></span>Good question, I am not entirely sure. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/8.37.179.254" title="Special:Contributions/8.37.179.254">8.37.179.254</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:8.37.179.254" title="User talk:8.37.179.254">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:D%26D_topics#c-8.37.179.254-20230515213500-Mika1h-20230515170500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 15 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-8.37.179.254-20230515213500-Mika1h-20230515170500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230515213500","author":"8.37.179.254","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-8.37.179.254-20230515213500-Mika1h-20230515170500","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-8.37.179.254-20230515213500-Mika1h-20230515170500"></span></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐d948c7fb8‐gt5p4 Cached time: 20241208005223 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.017 seconds CPU time usage: 0.179 seconds Real time usage: 0.378 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 506/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 22308/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 2137/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 12/100 Expensive parser function count: 7/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 13894/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.115/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1679810/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 245.124 1 -total 94.33% 231.224 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 70.70% 173.310 1 Template:WikiProject_Dungeons_&_Dragons 3.22% 7.898 1 Template:Edit_semi-protected 2.35% 5.764 1 Template:Ping 2.15% 5.277 1 Template:Tasks 1.49% 3.654 1 Template:Importance_mask 0.79% 1.933 1 Template:Yesno --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:30411230:|#|:idhash:canonical and timestamp 20241208005223 and revision id 1229585779. 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