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class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Adding date from EXIF when date is blank?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Pantoja_de_la_Cruz"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Pantoja de la Cruz</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Reading_bogus_compass_information_from_exif_data"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Reading bogus compass information from exif data</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Adding_headings_in_location"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">Adding headings in location</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#Adding_headings_in_location_-_2"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">Adding headings in location - 2</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Stop"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Stop</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Coordinates_and_Wikidata"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">Coordinates and Wikidata</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Gallery_vs_coordinates"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">Gallery vs coordinates</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#"Wrong_date"_on_file_talk_pages"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">"Wrong date" on file talk pages</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#"Wrong_date"_is_wrong"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">"Wrong date" is wrong</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#File:West_214th_Street,_Isham_Park.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">File:West 214th Street, Isham Park.jpg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#Fix,_not_tag_-_?"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">Fix, not tag - ?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#Bot_flag"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">Bot flag</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#Date_changes"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">Date changes</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#Änderungen_am_Parameter_Datum"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">Änderungen am Parameter <i>Datum</i></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#Special:Diff/260135111/269493596"><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">Special:Diff/260135111/269493596</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#other_date_between"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">other date between</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#Special:Diff/287873654"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext">Special:Diff/287873654</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Taken_on/taken_in"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext">Taken on/taken in</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#Bot_edits"><span class="tocnumber">22</span> <span class="toctext">Bot edits</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-23"><a href="#Changing_date_formats_in_original_upload_logs"><span class="tocnumber">23</span> <span class="toctext">Changing date formats in original upload logs</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#Is_this_really_an_improvement?"><span class="tocnumber">24</span> <span class="toctext">Is this really an improvement?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#really?"><span class="tocnumber">25</span> <span class="toctext">really?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#Removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata"><span class="tocnumber">26</span> <span class="toctext">Removing data that is provided by Wikidata</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#Empty_categories"><span class="tocnumber">27</span> <span class="toctext">Empty categories</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#Exif_date"><span class="tocnumber">28</span> <span class="toctext">Exif date</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="#removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata_2"><span class="tocnumber">29</span> <span class="toctext">removing data that is provided by Wikidata</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-30"><a href="#defaultsort=no"><span class="tocnumber">30</span> <span class="toctext">defaultsort=no</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-31"><a href="#Removing_defaultsort"><span class="tocnumber">31</span> <span class="toctext">Removing defaultsort</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-32"><a href="#Category:Jean_Mariette"><span class="tocnumber">32</span> <span class="toctext">Category:Jean Mariette</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-33"><a href="#Good_work"><span class="tocnumber">33</span> <span class="toctext">Good work</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-34"><a href="#Defaultsort"><span class="tocnumber">34</span> <span class="toctext">Defaultsort</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-35"><a href="#Categories_erased"><span class="tocnumber">35</span> <span class="toctext">Categories erased</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-36"><a href="#category_deleted_without_it_coming_from_wikidata"><span class="tocnumber">36</span> <span class="toctext">category deleted without it coming from wikidata</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-37"><a href="#Geolocation"><span class="tocnumber">37</span> <span class="toctext">Geolocation</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-38"><a href="#Bot_malfunction"><span class="tocnumber">38</span> <span class="toctext">Bot malfunction</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-39"><a href="#qid_removal"><span class="tocnumber">39</span> <span class="toctext">qid removal</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Check_edit" data-mw-thread-id="h-Check_edit-2015-11-21T13:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Check_edit-2015-11-21T13:52:00.000Z"></span>Check edit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Check_edit-2015-11-21T13:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Check edit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Raymond-2015-11-21T13:52:00.000Z-Check_edit"></span>Hi Arndt, could you please check <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Schalcken_-_Gemalte_Verf%C3%BChrung_-_Wallraf-Richartz-Museum_%26_Fondation_Corboud-9821.jpg&curid=43604367&diff=179825231&oldid=175566544">this edit</a>? Looks wrong as as is not the date parameter of the information template. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Raymond" title="User:Raymond">Raymond</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Raymond-2015-11-21T13:52:00.000Z-Check_edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 21 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Raymond-2015-11-21T13:52:00.000Z-Check_edit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Raymond-2015-11-21T13:52:00.000Z-Check_edit"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Raymond" title="User:Raymond"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2015-11-21T14:41:00.000Z-Raymond-2015-11-21T13:52:00.000Z"></span>Raymond</a>, thank you for being patient. You are right. It a mistake. So just revert this if you find other cases. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2015-11-21T14:41:00.000Z-Raymond-2015-11-21T13:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 21 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2015-11-21T14:41:00.000Z-Raymond-2015-11-21T13:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2015-11-21T14:41:00.000Z-Raymond-2015-11-21T13:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Erroneous_operation_with_{{cite_journal}}" data-mw-thread-id="h-Erroneous_operation_with_{{cite_journal}}-2015-11-22T00:11:00.000Z"><span id="Erroneous_operation_with_.7B.7Bcite_journal.7D.7D"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Erroneous_operation_with_{{cite_journal}}-2015-11-22T00:11:00.000Z"></span>Erroneous operation with {{cite journal}}<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Erroneous_operation_with_{{cite_journal}}-2015-11-22T00:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Erroneous operation with {{cite journal}}"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dmitry_Ivanov-2015-11-22T00:11:00.000Z-Erroneous_operation_with_{{cite_journal}}"></span>Hello, Arndt! Pay attention, please: the bot works on {{cite journal}} template in an erroneous way. <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Self-portrait_by_Feodor_Chaliapin_1907.jpg&diff=179823888&oldid=154091022">See, please, here</a>. Best wishes, <a href="/wiki/User:Dmitry_Ivanov" title="User:Dmitry Ivanov">Dmitry Ivanov</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dmitry_Ivanov" title="User talk:Dmitry Ivanov"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Dmitry_Ivanov-2015-11-22T00:11:00.000Z-Erroneous_operation_with_{{cite_journal}}" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:11, 22 November 2015 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dmitry_Ivanov-2015-11-22T00:11:00.000Z-Erroneous_operation_with_{{cite_journal}}"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dmitry_Ivanov-2015-11-22T00:11:00.000Z-Erroneous_operation_with_{{cite_journal}}"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Adding_date_from_EXIF_when_date_is_blank?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adding_date_from_EXIF_when_date_is_blank?-2015-11-24T15:17:00.000Z"><span id="Adding_date_from_EXIF_when_date_is_blank.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adding_date_from_EXIF_when_date_is_blank?-2015-11-24T15:17:00.000Z"></span>Adding date from EXIF when date is blank?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adding_date_from_EXIF_when_date_is_blank?-2015-11-24T15:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Adding date from EXIF when date is blank?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RP88-2015-11-24T15:17:00.000Z-Adding_date_from_EXIF_when_date_is_blank?"></span>Arnd</a>, your bot seems to be erroneously adding a date from EXIF when date is blank. This is outside of its approved tasks -- it is only supposed to be adding the EXIF date when it is "see metadata" and similar strings. Here is an <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Potato_plant.jpg&diff=180108103&oldid=110879382">example error</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:RP88" title="User:RP88">RP88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RP88" title="User talk:RP88">talk</a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-RP88-2015-11-24T15:17:00.000Z-Adding_date_from_EXIF_when_date_is_blank?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:17, 24 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RP88-2015-11-24T15:17:00.000Z-Adding_date_from_EXIF_when_date_is_blank?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RP88-2015-11-24T15:17:00.000Z-Adding_date_from_EXIF_when_date_is_blank?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2015-11-24T16:10:00.000Z-RP88-2015-11-24T15:17:00.000Z"></span>There are a lot of files having EXIF dates which is not used in date parameter. So i extended the task. I see the problem with this file. What should be done in such a case, how it can be detected? Should we use <a href="/wiki/Template:According_to_EXIF_data" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:According to EXIF data"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{According to EXIF data}}</span></a>? However, i am sure that such cases are very rarely. Actually, later we could check all Commons files that have dates before the upload date and mark. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2015-11-24T16:10:00.000Z-RP88-2015-11-24T15:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:10, 24 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2015-11-24T16:10:00.000Z-RP88-2015-11-24T15:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2015-11-24T16:10:00.000Z-RP88-2015-11-24T15:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RP88-2015-11-24T16:22:00.000Z-Aschroet-2015-11-24T16:10:00.000Z"></span>Well, using <a href="/wiki/Template:According_to_EXIF_data" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:According to EXIF data"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{According to EXIF data}}</span></a> is certainly better than what the bot has done, but even that may not be enough. It is very common for the EXIF date to be wrong in older files. I think it is fine if the bot sees text like "see metadata" and replaced it with the date, since presumably a human verified that the date in the metadata was correct before they added that string. Replacing a blank date with EXIF is very different (and more difficult) task. If I remember correctly, previous requests to do this have actually been rejected because the bot operator didn't have an adequate plan. If you think you have a plan on how to solve this, I think you should file a new bot request to add this task to your bot, rather than just "extending" the task your bot performs. —<a href="/wiki/User:RP88" title="User:RP88">RP88</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RP88" title="User talk:RP88">talk</a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-RP88-2015-11-24T16:22:00.000Z-Aschroet-2015-11-24T16:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 24 November 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RP88-2015-11-24T16:22:00.000Z-Aschroet-2015-11-24T16:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RP88-2015-11-24T16:22:00.000Z-Aschroet-2015-11-24T16:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pantoja_de_la_Cruz" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pantoja_de_la_Cruz-2016-01-04T18:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pantoja_de_la_Cruz-2016-01-04T18:29:00.000Z"></span>Pantoja de la Cruz<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pantoja_de_la_Cruz-2016-01-04T18:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Pantoja de la Cruz"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tiberioclaudio99-2016-01-04T18:29:00.000Z-Pantoja_de_la_Cruz"></span>No sé como arreglar esa página. ¿Habla usted español?.--<a href="/wiki/User:Tiberioclaudio99" title="User:Tiberioclaudio99">Tiberioclaudio99</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tiberioclaudio99" title="User talk:Tiberioclaudio99"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Tiberioclaudio99-2016-01-04T18:29:00.000Z-Pantoja_de_la_Cruz" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 4 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tiberioclaudio99-2016-01-04T18:29:00.000Z-Pantoja_de_la_Cruz"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tiberioclaudio99-2016-01-04T18:29:00.000Z-Pantoja_de_la_Cruz"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reading_bogus_compass_information_from_exif_data" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reading_bogus_compass_information_from_exif_data-2016-05-31T11:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reading_bogus_compass_information_from_exif_data-2016-05-31T11:02:00.000Z"></span>Reading bogus compass information from exif data<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reading_bogus_compass_information_from_exif_data-2016-05-31T11:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Reading bogus compass information from exif data"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kabelleger-2016-05-31T11:02:00.000Z-Reading_bogus_compass_information_from_exif_data"></span>Arnd</a>, ArndBot is currently reading bogus compass information and putting it into the location template. See e.g. here: <a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:GGB_Bhe_4-8_Streckenf%C3%BChrung_Rotenboden_-_Gornergrat.jpg&curid=24830269&diff=197721090&oldid=161880093">https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:GGB_Bhe_4-8_Streckenf%C3%BChrung_Rotenboden_-_Gornergrat.jpg&curid=24830269&diff=197721090&oldid=161880093</a> </p><p>The bot should do some sanity checking. I'm not exactly sure how that would look like, but the value 65535 is certainly not valid. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kabelleger" title="User:Kabelleger">Kabelleger</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kabelleger" title="User talk:Kabelleger"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Kabelleger-2016-05-31T11:02:00.000Z-Reading_bogus_compass_information_from_exif_data" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:02, 31 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kabelleger-2016-05-31T11:02:00.000Z-Reading_bogus_compass_information_from_exif_data"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kabelleger-2016-05-31T11:02:00.000Z-Reading_bogus_compass_information_from_exif_data"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2016-05-31T11:37:00.000Z-Kabelleger-2016-05-31T11:02:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Kabelleger" title="User:Kabelleger">Kabelleger</a>. I will add a plausibilty check for the range 0<=x<360. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2016-05-31T11:37:00.000Z-Kabelleger-2016-05-31T11:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 31 May 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2016-05-31T11:37:00.000Z-Kabelleger-2016-05-31T11:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2016-05-31T11:37:00.000Z-Kabelleger-2016-05-31T11:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Adding_headings_in_location" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adding_headings_in_location-2016-06-01T14:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adding_headings_in_location-2016-06-01T14:51:00.000Z"></span>Adding headings in location<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adding_headings_in_location-2016-06-01T14:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Adding headings in location"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smooth_O-2016-06-01T14:51:00.000Z-Adding_headings_in_location"></span>Can you please see <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Jajce_Kasarna_Vratnik.jpg&diff=next&oldid=118268831">this</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Bijela_Dzamija_street.jpg&curid=20372120&diff=197685586&oldid=75539777">this</a> edit. Now it has "Error: Invalid parameters!" --<a href="/wiki/User:Smooth_O" title="User:Smooth O">Smooth_O</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smooth_O" title="User talk:Smooth O"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Smooth_O-2016-06-01T14:51:00.000Z-Adding_headings_in_location" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 1 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smooth_O-2016-06-01T14:51:00.000Z-Adding_headings_in_location"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smooth_O-2016-06-01T14:51:00.000Z-Adding_headings_in_location"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Smooth_O" title="User:Smooth O"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2016-06-01T15:55:00.000Z-Smooth_O-2016-06-01T14:51:00.000Z"></span>Smooth_O</a>, i am aware of this. Actually the bot is not doing wrong but several thousands of files use the <a href="/wiki/Template:Location" title="Template:Location"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Location}}</span></a> template with three numerical parameters which is not allowed. I do not know why, but the uploaders thought the third parameter is the altitude which is not implemented. I already addressed this issue at <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Location#Altitude" title="Template talk:Location">Template talk:Location#Altitude</a>. Depending on the result i will cleanup the effected files. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2016-06-01T15:55:00.000Z-Smooth_O-2016-06-01T14:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:55, 1 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2016-06-01T15:55:00.000Z-Smooth_O-2016-06-01T14:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2016-06-01T15:55:00.000Z-Smooth_O-2016-06-01T14:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smooth_O-2016-06-02T14:03:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-06-01T15:55:00.000Z"></span>OK, thanks for info. --<a href="/wiki/User:Smooth_O" title="User:Smooth O">Smooth_O</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Smooth_O" title="User talk:Smooth O"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Smooth_O-2016-06-02T14:03:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-06-01T15:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 2 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smooth_O-2016-06-02T14:03:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-06-01T15:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smooth_O-2016-06-02T14:03:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-06-01T15:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Smooth_O" title="User:Smooth O"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2016-06-13T16:22:00.000Z-Smooth_O-2016-06-02T14:03:00.000Z"></span>Smooth_O</a>, the Bot is now cleaning up the files. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2016-06-13T16:22:00.000Z-Smooth_O-2016-06-02T14:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 13 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2016-06-13T16:22:00.000Z-Smooth_O-2016-06-02T14:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2016-06-13T16:22:00.000Z-Smooth_O-2016-06-02T14:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Adding_headings_in_location_-_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adding_headings_in_location_-_2-2016-06-13T16:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adding_headings_in_location_-_2-2016-06-13T16:10:00.000Z"></span>Adding headings in location - 2<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adding_headings_in_location_-_2-2016-06-13T16:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Adding headings in location - 2"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geogast-2016-06-13T16:10:00.000Z-Adding_headings_in_location_-_2"></span>Hello! I uploaded several geotagged pictures with location, but <i>without</i> heading information (examples: File:Trem do Corcovado – “Schweizerische Centralbahn Hauptwerkstaette • System Riggenbach”.JPG / File:Rosenbauer Panther 8x8 • rechter Sitz, Flughafenfeuerwehr Bremen.JPG). As it seems, they had a heading 0° or 360° in EXIF data, something not intended by me, but apparently added by the ”Panorado Flyer“ tool. Your bot added a heading to the file. IMHO a bot should not make an automated edit adding erroneous information – although there was this data in EXIF.--<a href="/wiki/User:Geogast" title="User:Geogast">Geogast</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geogast" title="User talk:Geogast"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Geogast-2016-06-13T16:10:00.000Z-Adding_headings_in_location_-_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:10, 13 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geogast-2016-06-13T16:10:00.000Z-Adding_headings_in_location_-_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geogast-2016-06-13T16:10:00.000Z-Adding_headings_in_location_-_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2016-06-13T16:29:00.000Z-Geogast-2016-06-13T16:10:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Geogast" title="User:Geogast">Geogast</a>, the UploadWizad is currently also adding the heading if it is in the valid range. And my Bot did the same for the files that have been uploaded before the change of the Wizard. Is there any easy way to find all files that are effected by the wrong heading? So we could easily repair them. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2016-06-13T16:29:00.000Z-Geogast-2016-06-13T16:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:29, 13 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2016-06-13T16:29:00.000Z-Geogast-2016-06-13T16:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2016-06-13T16:29:00.000Z-Geogast-2016-06-13T16:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geogast-2016-06-13T18:10:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-06-13T16:29:00.000Z"></span>Hello! Yes, but when I upload files, I have an eye on that, especially on data the UploadWizard fills in automatically. I can repair the files by myself with the help of the mails I received after these edits. The point is: is there a way to avoid this mistake? Perhaps avoiding this edit whenever the EXIF data has a 0° or 360° heading?--<a href="/wiki/User:Geogast" title="User:Geogast">Geogast</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geogast" title="User talk:Geogast"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Geogast-2016-06-13T18:10:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-06-13T16:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 13 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geogast-2016-06-13T18:10:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-06-13T16:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geogast-2016-06-13T18:10:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-06-13T16:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2016-06-13T20:03:00.000Z-Geogast-2016-06-13T18:10:00.000Z"></span>The thing is, that valid values are 0<=x<360. If the camera or a program is adding Exif data it should never add the heading parameter if there is no value. In your case it is a bug of the ”Panorado Flyer“ and should be fixed there. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2016-06-13T20:03:00.000Z-Geogast-2016-06-13T18:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 13 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2016-06-13T20:03:00.000Z-Geogast-2016-06-13T18:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2016-06-13T20:03:00.000Z-Geogast-2016-06-13T18:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geogast-2016-06-14T19:02:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-06-13T20:03:00.000Z"></span>Yes, it is (or at least, seems to be) a bug of the tool I use. But I take care when I upload the files. The bot doesn't. So, the bot repeatedly produces a mistake a human user wouldn't. In this case, I think a bot should skip edits in these cases in order do avoid mistakes.--<a href="/wiki/User:Geogast" title="User:Geogast">Geogast</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geogast" title="User talk:Geogast"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Geogast-2016-06-14T19:02:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-06-13T20:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 14 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geogast-2016-06-14T19:02:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-06-13T20:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geogast-2016-06-14T19:02:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-06-13T20:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Stop" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stop-2016-10-12T17:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stop-2016-10-12T17:58:00.000Z"></span>Stop<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stop-2016-10-12T17:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Stop"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/209549132" title="Special:Diff/209549132"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tuvalkin-2016-10-12T17:58:00.000Z-Stop"></span>Please</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tuvalkin" title="User:Tuvalkin">Tuválkin</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tuvalkin" title="User talk:Tuvalkin">✉</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin" title="Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin">✇</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Tuvalkin-2016-10-12T17:58:00.000Z-Stop" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:58, 12 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tuvalkin-2016-10-12T17:58:00.000Z-Stop"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tuvalkin-2016-10-12T17:58:00.000Z-Stop"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Tuvalkin" title="User:Tuvalkin"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2016-10-12T18:06:00.000Z-Tuvalkin-2016-10-12T17:58:00.000Z"></span>Tuválkin</a>, thanks for be patient and sorry for this wrong edit. I will fix them. I modified the bot. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2016-10-12T18:06:00.000Z-Tuvalkin-2016-10-12T17:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:06, 12 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2016-10-12T18:06:00.000Z-Tuvalkin-2016-10-12T17:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2016-10-12T18:06:00.000Z-Tuvalkin-2016-10-12T17:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tuvalkin-2016-10-12T18:09:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-10-12T18:06:00.000Z"></span>Great, thanks. (I wanted to say that it should not remove line end trailing pipes after a template name if the next line doesn’t start with a pipe, but I thought speed reporting would be most important as the problem and its solution were trivial.) -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tuvalkin" title="User:Tuvalkin">Tuválkin</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tuvalkin" title="User talk:Tuvalkin">✉</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin" title="Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin">✇</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Tuvalkin-2016-10-12T18:09:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-10-12T18:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 12 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tuvalkin-2016-10-12T18:09:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-10-12T18:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tuvalkin-2016-10-12T18:09:00.000Z-Aschroet-2016-10-12T18:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Coordinates_and_Wikidata" data-mw-thread-id="h-Coordinates_and_Wikidata-2017-01-17T16:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Coordinates_and_Wikidata-2017-01-17T16:14:00.000Z"></span>Coordinates and Wikidata<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Coordinates_and_Wikidata-2017-01-17T16:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Coordinates and Wikidata"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Yew_Tree_Cottages,_Birmingham&diff=229812099&oldid=223282159"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-2017-01-17T16:14:00.000Z-Coordinates_and_Wikidata"></span>this edit</a></span> left the coordinates in situ. Did you mean to remove them? <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Pigsonthewing-2017-01-17T16:14:00.000Z-Coordinates_and_Wikidata" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:14, 17 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-2017-01-17T16:14:00.000Z-Coordinates_and_Wikidata"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-2017-01-17T16:14:00.000Z-Coordinates_and_Wikidata"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2017-01-17T16:43:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2017-01-17T16:14:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a>, it is correct the way it is. For now we leave them in place until we have a general template that displays all WD information. But you are right, maybe the summary was a little bit misleading. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2017-01-17T16:43:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2017-01-17T16:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 17 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2017-01-17T16:43:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2017-01-17T16:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2017-01-17T16:43:00.000Z-Pigsonthewing-2017-01-17T16:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Gallery_vs_coordinates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gallery_vs_coordinates-2017-01-19T21:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Gallery_vs_coordinates-2017-01-19T21:22:00.000Z"></span>Gallery vs coordinates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Gallery_vs_coordinates-2017-01-19T21:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Gallery vs coordinates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcb-2017-01-19T21:22:00.000Z-Gallery_vs_coordinates"></span>Apparently something went wrong <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adolf_Cluss&type=revision&diff=230233477&oldid=140524879">here</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jcb" title="User:Jcb">Jcb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jcb" title="User talk:Jcb"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Jcb-2017-01-19T21:22:00.000Z-Gallery_vs_coordinates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 19 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcb-2017-01-19T21:22:00.000Z-Gallery_vs_coordinates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcb-2017-01-19T21:22:00.000Z-Gallery_vs_coordinates"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2017-01-19T21:34:00.000Z-Jcb-2017-01-19T21:22:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for being patient, <a href="/wiki/User:Jcb" title="User:Jcb">Jcb</a>. I think it was the only edit that went wrong. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2017-01-19T21:34:00.000Z-Jcb-2017-01-19T21:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 19 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2017-01-19T21:34:00.000Z-Jcb-2017-01-19T21:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2017-01-19T21:34:00.000Z-Jcb-2017-01-19T21:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jcb-2017-01-19T21:39:00.000Z-Aschroet-2017-01-19T21:34:00.000Z"></span>No problem. <a href="/wiki/User:Jcb" title="User:Jcb">Jcb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jcb" title="User talk:Jcb"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Jcb-2017-01-19T21:39:00.000Z-Aschroet-2017-01-19T21:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 19 January 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jcb-2017-01-19T21:39:00.000Z-Aschroet-2017-01-19T21:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jcb-2017-01-19T21:39:00.000Z-Aschroet-2017-01-19T21:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Wrong_date"_on_file_talk_pages" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Wrong_date"_on_file_talk_pages-2017-02-07T20:39:00.000Z"><span id=".22Wrong_date.22_on_file_talk_pages"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Wrong_date"_on_file_talk_pages-2017-02-07T20:39:00.000Z"></span>"Wrong date" on file talk pages<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Wrong_date"_on_file_talk_pages-2017-02-07T20:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: "Wrong date" on file talk pages"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Raymond-2017-02-07T20:39:00.000Z-"Wrong_date"_on_file_talk_pages"></span>hi Arnd, could you pls check the rules of the bot? <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk:Durchgangslager_Westerbork_Gedenkst%C3%A4tte_(1621-23).jpg&curid=14708071&diff=232724974&oldid=52416088">[1]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk:St._Engelbert_K%C3%B6ln_-_Eingang_(7589-91).jpg&curid=14586362&diff=232724961&oldid=148790929">[2]</a>, and <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk:Duisburg-Panorama_ThyssenKrupp.jpg&curid=11439787&diff=232724776&oldid=61202449">[3]</a> do not make sense for me. <a href="/wiki/User:Raymond" title="User:Raymond">Raymond</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Raymond-2017-02-07T20:39:00.000Z-"Wrong_date"_on_file_talk_pages" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 7 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Raymond-2017-02-07T20:39:00.000Z-"Wrong_date"_on_file_talk_pages"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Raymond-2017-02-07T20:39:00.000Z-"Wrong_date"_on_file_talk_pages"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2017-02-07T20:51:00.000Z-Raymond-2017-02-07T20:39:00.000Z"></span>Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Raymond" title="User:Raymond">Raymond</a> for being patient. I removed the non-files from the list. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2017-02-07T20:51:00.000Z-Raymond-2017-02-07T20:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 7 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2017-02-07T20:51:00.000Z-Raymond-2017-02-07T20:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2017-02-07T20:51:00.000Z-Raymond-2017-02-07T20:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Raymond-2017-02-07T21:02:00.000Z-Aschroet-2017-02-07T20:51:00.000Z"></span>Hi Arnd, thank you very much for fast fixing. <a href="/wiki/User:Raymond" title="User:Raymond">Raymond</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Raymond-2017-02-07T21:02:00.000Z-Aschroet-2017-02-07T20:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:02, 7 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Raymond-2017-02-07T21:02:00.000Z-Aschroet-2017-02-07T20:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Raymond-2017-02-07T21:02:00.000Z-Aschroet-2017-02-07T20:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Wrong_date"_is_wrong" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Wrong_date"_is_wrong-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z"><span id=".22Wrong_date.22_is_wrong"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Wrong_date"_is_wrong-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z"></span>"Wrong date" is wrong<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Wrong_date"_is_wrong-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: "Wrong date" is wrong"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mwtoews-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z-"Wrong_date"_is_wrong"></span>I've seen <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ASST_Records_logo.svg&type=revision&diff=232747471&oldid=187365929">this bot tag files</a> with "wrong date" and commentary "mentioned date is after the upload date", however, this example is incorrect. For instance, I'm in a timezone that is ahead of most of the world, and uploaded it to a server that was one day behind. Right now for me is 12:20 pm on 8 February 2017, but my signature will say otherwise. You may want to adjust the bot to tag files that are more than a day different. <tt>+<font color="#008000"><a href="/wiki/User:Mwtoews" title="User:Mwtoews">m</a></font><font color="#6B3FA0"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mwtoews" title="User talk:Mwtoews">t</a></font></tt> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Mwtoews-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z-"Wrong_date"_is_wrong" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:21, 7 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mwtoews-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z-"Wrong_date"_is_wrong"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mwtoews-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z-"Wrong_date"_is_wrong"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:NCVPS_Logo.png&diff=232743258&oldid=157118248"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EoRdE6-2017-02-08T03:03:00.000Z-Mwtoews-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z"></span>same</a>, timezones should be considered. <b><a href="/wiki/User:EoRdE6" title="User:EoRdE6">EoRdE6</a></b><sup><small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EoRdE6" title="User talk:EoRdE6">Come Talk to Me!</a>)</small></sup> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-EoRdE6-2017-02-08T03:03:00.000Z-Mwtoews-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:03, 8 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EoRdE6-2017-02-08T03:03:00.000Z-Mwtoews-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EoRdE6-2017-02-08T03:03:00.000Z-Mwtoews-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2017-02-08T07:33:00.000Z-EoRdE6-2017-02-08T03:03:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the hint. I will run a cleanup task. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2017-02-08T07:33:00.000Z-EoRdE6-2017-02-08T03:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:33, 8 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2017-02-08T07:33:00.000Z-EoRdE6-2017-02-08T03:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2017-02-08T07:33:00.000Z-EoRdE6-2017-02-08T03:03:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2017-02-08T10:33:00.000Z-EoRdE6-2017-02-08T03:03:00.000Z"></span>done. If there are any other cases feel free to report it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2017-02-08T10:33:00.000Z-EoRdE6-2017-02-08T03:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:33, 8 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2017-02-08T10:33:00.000Z-EoRdE6-2017-02-08T03:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2017-02-08T10:33:00.000Z-EoRdE6-2017-02-08T03:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-XXN-2017-03-31T14:35:00.000Z-Mwtoews-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z"></span>Another case at <a href="/wiki/File:Adela_M%C4%83rculescu.png" title="File:Adela Mărculescu.png">File:Adela Mărculescu.png</a> <a href="/wiki/User:XXN" title="User:XXN">XXN</a>, <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-XXN-2017-03-31T14:35:00.000Z-Mwtoews-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:35, 31 March 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-XXN-2017-03-31T14:35:00.000Z-Mwtoews-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-XXN-2017-03-31T14:35:00.000Z-Mwtoews-2017-02-07T23:21:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:West_214th_Street,_Isham_Park.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:West_214th_Street,_Isham_Park.jpg-2017-02-08T17:02:00.000Z"><span id="File:West_214th_Street.2C_Isham_Park.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:West_214th_Street,_Isham_Park.jpg-2017-02-08T17:02:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/File:West_214th_Street,_Isham_Park.jpg" title="File:West 214th Street, Isham Park.jpg">File:West 214th Street, Isham Park.jpg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:West_214th_Street,_Isham_Park.jpg-2017-02-08T17:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: File:West 214th Street, Isham Park.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Beyond_My_Ken-2017-02-08T17:02:00.000Z-File:West_214th_Street,_Isham_Park.jpg"></span>Bot marked this as wrong date, stating that the file date was after the upload date, but it is incorrect. The image was taken on 20 July 2016 and uploaded on 6 August 2016. <a href="/wiki/User:Beyond_My_Ken" title="User:Beyond My Ken">Beyond My Ken</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beyond_My_Ken" title="User talk:Beyond My Ken"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Beyond_My_Ken-2017-02-08T17:02:00.000Z-File:West_214th_Street,_Isham_Park.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 8 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beyond_My_Ken-2017-02-08T17:02:00.000Z-File:West_214th_Street,_Isham_Park.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Beyond_My_Ken-2017-02-08T17:02:00.000Z-File:West_214th_Street,_Isham_Park.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fix,_not_tag_-_?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fix,_not_tag_-_?-2017-02-10T09:24:00.000Z"><span id="Fix.2C_not_tag_-_.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fix,_not_tag_-_?-2017-02-10T09:24:00.000Z"></span>Fix, not tag - ?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fix,_not_tag_-_?-2017-02-10T09:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Fix, not tag - ?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/File:Bootstrapping_emitter_follower_to_increase_input_impedance.png" title="File:Bootstrapping emitter follower to increase input impedance.png"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Retired_electrician-2017-02-10T09:24:00.000Z-Fix,_not_tag_-_?"></span>File:Bootstrapping_emitter_follower_to_increase_input_impedance.png</a> - 18:28, 6 November 2016 in upload log, 6 November 2017 in the template - perhaps the bot could <i>fix</i> these simple errors? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Retired_electrician&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Retired electrician (page does not exist)">Retired electrician</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Retired_electrician" title="User talk:Retired electrician"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Retired_electrician-2017-02-10T09:24:00.000Z-Fix,_not_tag_-_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:24, 10 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Retired_electrician-2017-02-10T09:24:00.000Z-Fix,_not_tag_-_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Retired_electrician-2017-02-10T09:24:00.000Z-Fix,_not_tag_-_?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2017-02-10T11:30:00.000Z-Retired_electrician-2017-02-10T09:24:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Retired_electrician&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Retired electrician (page does not exist)">Retired electrician</a>, you are right. But there are many different of such little mistakes. All of them need at least some human review. That is why I would like to see someone browsing <a href="/wiki/Category:Incorrect_date" title="Category:Incorrect date">Category:Incorrect date</a> and identify groups of files with the same problem and then fix it for example with <a href="/wiki/Help:VisualFileChange.js" title="Help:VisualFileChange.js">VisualFileChange.js</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2017-02-10T11:30:00.000Z-Retired_electrician-2017-02-10T09:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:30, 10 February 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2017-02-10T11:30:00.000Z-Retired_electrician-2017-02-10T09:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2017-02-10T11:30:00.000Z-Retired_electrician-2017-02-10T09:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bot_flag" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bot_flag-2017-09-01T14:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bot_flag-2017-09-01T14:48:00.000Z"></span>Bot flag<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bot_flag-2017-09-01T14:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Bot flag"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jeff_G.-2017-09-01T14:48:00.000Z-Bot_flag"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Aschroet</a>: </span> Hi. I see that <a href="/wiki/User:ArndBot" title="User:ArndBot">ArndBot</a> has a bot flag, but it seems the edits it makes are not tagged as bot edits, for instance in my watchlist. Do you know why? — <span style="font-size:115%;background-color:lightyellow"><a href="/wiki/User:Jeff_G." title="User:Jeff G.">Jeff</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Jeff_G./talk" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jeff G./talk">G. ツ</a></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Jeff_G.-2017-09-01T14:48:00.000Z-Bot_flag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 1 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jeff_G.-2017-09-01T14:48:00.000Z-Bot_flag"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jeff_G.-2017-09-01T14:48:00.000Z-Bot_flag"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2017-09-01T14:51:00.000Z-Jeff_G.-2017-09-01T14:48:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Jeff_G." title="User:Jeff G.">Jeff</a>, no idea. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2017-09-01T14:51:00.000Z-Jeff_G.-2017-09-01T14:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 1 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2017-09-01T14:51:00.000Z-Jeff_G.-2017-09-01T14:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2017-09-01T14:51:00.000Z-Jeff_G.-2017-09-01T14:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Perhelion-2017-09-27T19:20:00.000Z-Aschroet-2017-09-01T14:51:00.000Z"></span>I agree, this annoying, and when you go with minoredit!? <kbd style="white-space:nowrap;color:#456;"> -- <i><a href="/wiki/User:Perhelion" title="User:Perhelion">User: Perhelion</a></i> <small><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Perhelion-2017-09-27T19:20:00.000Z-Aschroet-2017-09-01T14:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 27 September 2017 (UTC)</a></small><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Perhelion-2017-09-27T19:20:00.000Z-Aschroet-2017-09-01T14:51:00.000Z"></span></kbd><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Perhelion-2017-09-27T19:20:00.000Z-Aschroet-2017-09-01T14:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Date_changes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Date_changes-2017-09-28T13:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Date_changes-2017-09-28T13:39:00.000Z"></span>Date changes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Date_changes-2017-09-28T13:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Date changes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anomie-2017-09-28T13:39:00.000Z-Date_changes"></span>I see your bot did a run recently to reformat Date parameters in <a href="/wiki/Template:Information" title="Template:Information"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Information}}</span></a>. When doing so, it for some reason left out the leading 0 when the day is less than 10, e.g. <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/260093186" title="Special:Diff/260093186">this edit</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Anomie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Anomie">Anomie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anomie" title="User talk:Anomie"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Anomie-2017-09-28T13:39:00.000Z-Date_changes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 28 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anomie-2017-09-28T13:39:00.000Z-Date_changes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anomie-2017-09-28T13:39:00.000Z-Date_changes"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Anomie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Anomie"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anomie-2017-09-28T15:05:00.000Z-Anomie-2017-09-28T13:39:00.000Z"></span>Anomie</a>, i did it for the sake of simplicity and because <a href="/wiki/Template:ISOdate" title="Template:ISOdate"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{ISOdate}}</span></a> can deal with this. Maybe in a later run, we could add the leading 0s. --<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Anomie-2017-09-28T15:05:00.000Z-Anomie-2017-09-28T13:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 28 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anomie-2017-09-28T15:05:00.000Z-Anomie-2017-09-28T13:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anomie-2017-09-28T15:05:00.000Z-Anomie-2017-09-28T13:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crissov-2017-10-23T09:56:00.000Z-Date_changes"></span>In <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Enlargement_of_the_European_Union_77.gif&curid=2425034&diff=263917583&oldid=187366157">this edit</a>, ArndBot changed the date <code>17/17/07</code> into <code>2007-17-17</code>, which is obviously not a valid date in the international standard calendar of ISO 8601. Any bot should only change unambiguous cases, but it needs to be smart enough to do so. — <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crissov" class="extiw" title="en:User:Crissov">Christoph</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Crissov" class="extiw" title="en:User talk:Crissov">Päper</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Crissov-2017-10-23T09:56:00.000Z-Date_changes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:56, 23 October 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crissov-2017-10-23T09:56:00.000Z-Date_changes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crissov-2017-10-23T09:56:00.000Z-Date_changes"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Änderungen_am_Parameter_Datum" data-mw-thread-id="h-Änderungen_am_Parameter_Datum-2017-10-11T09:28:00.000Z"><span id=".C3.84nderungen_am_Parameter_Datum"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Änderungen_am_Parameter_Datum-2017-10-11T09:28:00.000Z"></span>Änderungen am Parameter <i>Datum</i><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Änderungen_am_Parameter_Datum-2017-10-11T09:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Änderungen am Parameter Datum"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rufus46-2017-10-11T09:28:00.000Z-Änderungen_am_Parameter_Datum"></span>ArndBot verändert z.T. den Eintrag unter <i>Datum</i> der Dateibeschreibung mMn nicht ganz korrekt. Korrekt ist die Anpassung der Formatierung, z.B. statt <i>7.8.2007</i> jetzt <i>2007-8-7</i> (besser wäre noch <i>2007-08-07</i>). Nicht korrekt ist aber, dass der Bot <i>Hochladedatum</i> vermerkt, wenn es sich auch um das Aufnahmedatum handelt. Das Hochladedatum ist bereits an anderer Stelle (Datum der ältesten Version) vermerkt, ein zusätzlicher Eintrag ist somit redundant. Manchmal lade ich eben die Dateien bereits am Aufnahmetag hoch. Der Parameter <i>Datum</i> ist das Aufnahmedatum, und das trage ich eigentlich immer richtig ein. Das mit <i>Hochladedatum</i> zu überschreiben, verdeckt die Information zum Aufnahmedatum und unterstellt gleichzeitig einen fehlerhaften Eintrag. Bitte diese Fehlfunktion des ArndBot sofort einstellen. Gruß --<a href="/wiki/User:Rufus46" title="User:Rufus46">Rufus46</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rufus46" title="User talk:Rufus46"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Rufus46-2017-10-11T09:28:00.000Z-Änderungen_am_Parameter_Datum" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:28, 11 October 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rufus46-2017-10-11T09:28:00.000Z-Änderungen_am_Parameter_Datum"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rufus46-2017-10-11T09:28:00.000Z-Änderungen_am_Parameter_Datum"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Special:Diff/260135111/269493596" data-mw-thread-id="h-Special:Diff/260135111/269493596-2017-11-27T20:46:00.000Z"><span id="Special:Diff.2F260135111.2F269493596"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Special:Diff/260135111/269493596-2017-11-27T20:46:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/260135111/269493596" title="Special:Diff/260135111/269493596">Special:Diff/260135111/269493596</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Special:Diff/260135111/269493596-2017-11-27T20:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Special:Diff/260135111/269493596"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Leyo-2017-11-27T20:46:00.000Z-Special:Diff/260135111/269493596"></span>Hallo, magst du diese Fehler selbst korrigieren (siehe erg. Wartungskategorie)? --<a href="/wiki/User:Leyo" title="User:Leyo">Leyo</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Leyo-2017-11-27T20:46:00.000Z-Special:Diff/260135111/269493596" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 27 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Leyo-2017-11-27T20:46:00.000Z-Special:Diff/260135111/269493596"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Leyo-2017-11-27T20:46:00.000Z-Special:Diff/260135111/269493596"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2017-11-29T22:00:00.000Z-Leyo-2017-11-27T20:46:00.000Z"></span>Danke <a href="/wiki/User:Leyo" title="User:Leyo">Leyo</a>, hab's repariert. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2017-11-29T22:00:00.000Z-Leyo-2017-11-27T20:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 29 November 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2017-11-29T22:00:00.000Z-Leyo-2017-11-27T20:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2017-11-29T22:00:00.000Z-Leyo-2017-11-27T20:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="other_date_between" data-mw-thread-id="h-other_date_between-2018-02-01T11:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-other_date_between-2018-02-01T11:37:00.000Z"></span>other date between<span data-mw-comment-end="h-other_date_between-2018-02-01T11:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: other date between"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Renardo_la_vulpo-2018-02-01T11:37:00.000Z-other_date_between"></span>Hallo, Aschroet, </p><p>dein Arndbot hat bei <a href="/wiki/File:Olching,_Pfarrzentrum_St.Elisabeth_in_Esting.JPG" title="File:Olching, Pfarrzentrum St.Elisabeth in Esting.JPG">File:Olching, Pfarrzentrum St.Elisabeth in Esting.JPG</a> das Datum „2011-0427“ zu „2011-04-27“ (<a href="/wiki/Template:Other_date" title="Template:Other date"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Other date}}</span></a>) korrigiert. Der Hochlader hat aber nur einen Strich vergessen und 2011-04-27 gemeint (sieht man aus den EXIF-Daten). Vielleicht sollte dein Bot, bevor er ein <i>between</i> erzeugt, prüfen, ob die Zahlen dazu passen (linke Zahl kleiner als rechte). Grüße -- <a href="/wiki/User:Renardo_la_vulpo" title="User:Renardo la vulpo">Renardo la vulpo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Renardo_la_vulpo" title="User talk:Renardo la vulpo"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Renardo_la_vulpo-2018-02-01T11:37:00.000Z-other_date_between" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 1 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Renardo_la_vulpo-2018-02-01T11:37:00.000Z-other_date_between"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Renardo_la_vulpo-2018-02-01T11:37:00.000Z-other_date_between"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2018-02-01T12:11:00.000Z-Renardo_la_vulpo-2018-02-01T11:37:00.000Z"></span>Danke <a href="/wiki/User:Renardo_la_vulpo" title="User:Renardo la vulpo">Renardo la vulpo</a> für den Hinweis. Ich habe schon eine Reihe von Daten identifiziert, die ich reparieren muss: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%2Fother.date%5C%7Cbetween%5C%7C%5B0-9%5D%7B4%7D%5C%7C0%2Fi&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns9=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&ns100=1&ns106=1&searchToken=6x3l95nibr60jrhps99xegajk">[4]</a>, <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%2Fother.date+%2A%5C%7C+%2Abetween+%2A%5C%7C+%2A2%5B0-9%5D%7B3%7D%5C%7C1%2Fi&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns9=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&ns100=1&ns106=1&searchToken=270zf9knicujchst7sb0ovirs">[5]</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2018-02-01T12:11:00.000Z-Renardo_la_vulpo-2018-02-01T11:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 1 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2018-02-01T12:11:00.000Z-Renardo_la_vulpo-2018-02-01T11:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2018-02-01T12:11:00.000Z-Renardo_la_vulpo-2018-02-01T11:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span> <b><bdi>Done</bdi></b> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Special:Diff/287873654" data-mw-thread-id="h-Special:Diff/287873654-2018-02-19T13:27:00.000Z"><span id="Special:Diff.2F287873654"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Special:Diff/287873654-2018-02-19T13:27:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/287873654" title="Special:Diff/287873654">Special:Diff/287873654</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Special:Diff/287873654-2018-02-19T13:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Special:Diff/287873654"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Leyo-2018-02-19T13:27:00.000Z-Special:Diff/287873654"></span>Was ist da schiefgelaufen? Die Vorlage ist laut <a href="/wiki/Template:Artwork" title="Template:Artwork">Template:Artwork</a> korrekt. --<a href="/wiki/User:Leyo" title="User:Leyo">Leyo</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Leyo-2018-02-19T13:27:00.000Z-Special:Diff/287873654" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 19 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Leyo-2018-02-19T13:27:00.000Z-Special:Diff/287873654"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Leyo-2018-02-19T13:27:00.000Z-Special:Diff/287873654"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2018-02-19T13:54:00.000Z-Leyo-2018-02-19T13:27:00.000Z"></span>Ich hatte ein paar Kommentare aufgeräumt, weil ich denke, dass sie nicht wirklich geraucht werden. Habe dann aber damit aufgehört. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2018-02-19T13:54:00.000Z-Leyo-2018-02-19T13:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:54, 19 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2018-02-19T13:54:00.000Z-Leyo-2018-02-19T13:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2018-02-19T13:54:00.000Z-Leyo-2018-02-19T13:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Leyo-2018-02-19T16:05:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-02-19T13:54:00.000Z"></span>Gut, dass du damit aufgehört hast. IMHO sind auskommentierte Vorlagen in solchen Fällen durchaus sinnvoll. VFC-Änderungen sollten zudem nicht kommentarlos erfolgen. --<a href="/wiki/User:Leyo" title="User:Leyo">Leyo</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Leyo-2018-02-19T16:05:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-02-19T13:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 19 February 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Leyo-2018-02-19T16:05:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-02-19T13:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Leyo-2018-02-19T16:05:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-02-19T13:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Taken_on/taken_in" data-mw-thread-id="h-Taken_on/taken_in-2018-03-01T17:40:00.000Z"><span id="Taken_on.2Ftaken_in"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Taken_on/taken_in-2018-03-01T17:40:00.000Z"></span>Taken on/taken in<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Taken_on/taken_in-2018-03-01T17:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Taken on/taken in"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:40:00.000Z-Taken_on/taken_in"></span>Hello. I see your bot is adding <a href="/wiki/Template:Taken_on" title="Template:Taken on"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Taken on}}</span></a> to images where only the year is listed in the date field. That results in awkward grammar, at least in English. Instead, could you please use <a href="/wiki/Template:Taken_in" title="Template:Taken in"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Taken in}}</span></a> in these cases? Thanks! - <a href="/wiki/User:EurekaLott" title="User:EurekaLott">Eureka Lott</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:40:00.000Z-Taken_on/taken_in" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 1 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:40:00.000Z-Taken_on/taken_in"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:40:00.000Z-Taken_on/taken_in"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:EurekaLott" title="User:EurekaLott"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:47:00.000Z-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:40:00.000Z"></span>Eureka Lott</a>, thanks for your patience. Does this also hold for year and month only? --<a href="/wiki/User:ArndBot" title="User:ArndBot">ArndBot</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:47:00.000Z-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:47, 1 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:47:00.000Z-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:47:00.000Z-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:52:00.000Z-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:47:00.000Z"></span>Yes, please. <a href="/wiki/Template:Taken_in" title="Template:Taken in">{{Taken in}}</a> would work better when there's only a year and month. - <a href="/wiki/User:EurekaLott" title="User:EurekaLott">Eureka Lott</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:52:00.000Z-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 1 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:52:00.000Z-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:52:00.000Z-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:EurekaLott" title="User:EurekaLott"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:53:00.000Z-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:52:00.000Z"></span>Eureka Lott</a>, i will clean that up soon. --<a href="/wiki/User:ArndBot" title="User:ArndBot">ArndBot</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:53:00.000Z-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 1 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:53:00.000Z-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:53:00.000Z-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:54:00.000Z-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:53:00.000Z"></span>Excellent. Thank you! - <a href="/wiki/User:EurekaLott" title="User:EurekaLott">Eureka Lott</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:54:00.000Z-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 1 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:54:00.000Z-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EurekaLott-2018-03-01T17:54:00.000Z-ArndBot-2018-03-01T17:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bot_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bot_edits-2018-03-12T11:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bot_edits-2018-03-12T11:32:00.000Z"></span>Bot edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bot_edits-2018-03-12T11:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Bot edits"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ahonc-2018-03-12T11:32:00.000Z-Bot_edits"></span>Please mark your edits as minor. Otherwise users got letters about every edit.--<i><b><a href="/wiki/User:Ahonc" title="User:Ahonc"><tt style="color:darkviolet">Anatoliy</tt></a></b></i> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ahonc" title="User talk:Ahonc">talk</a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Ahonc-2018-03-12T11:32:00.000Z-Bot_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:32, 12 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ahonc-2018-03-12T11:32:00.000Z-Bot_edits"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ahonc-2018-03-12T11:32:00.000Z-Bot_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2018-03-12T11:58:00.000Z-Ahonc-2018-03-12T11:32:00.000Z"></span>Privit <a href="/wiki/User:Ahonc" title="User:Ahonc">Anatoliy</a>, <a href="/wiki/MediaWiki:VisualFileChange.js" class="mw-redirect" title="MediaWiki:VisualFileChange.js">VisualFileChange.js</a> does not have such an option. I now changed my settings so that all future edits are minor ones.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Leyo" title="User:Leyo">User:Leyo</a>, just as a second oppinion. Is that what we want when using VFC - bot flag and minor edits? I thought that bot is enough. I am a little nerved from repeated blockings... --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2018-03-12T11:58:00.000Z-Ahonc-2018-03-12T11:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:58, 12 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2018-03-12T11:58:00.000Z-Ahonc-2018-03-12T11:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2018-03-12T11:58:00.000Z-Ahonc-2018-03-12T11:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Leyo-2018-03-16T14:11:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-03-12T11:58:00.000Z"></span>Bot flag or minor edit is probably sufficient in most cases.</dd> <dd>It would be good if VFC would have the option to mark the edits as minor. --<a href="/wiki/User:Leyo" title="User:Leyo">Leyo</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Leyo-2018-03-16T14:11:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-03-12T11:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 16 March 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Leyo-2018-03-16T14:11:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-03-12T11:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Leyo-2018-03-16T14:11:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-03-12T11:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Changing_date_formats_in_original_upload_logs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Changing_date_formats_in_original_upload_logs-2018-04-05T22:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Changing_date_formats_in_original_upload_logs-2018-04-05T22:41:00.000Z"></span>Changing date formats in original upload logs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Changing_date_formats_in_original_upload_logs-2018-04-05T22:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Changing date formats in original upload logs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Peter_Ucko%27s_Grave,_Highgate_Cemetery.jpg&curid=58479500&diff=295682426&oldid=242914271"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kelly-2018-04-05T22:41:00.000Z-Changing_date_formats_in_original_upload_logs"></span>Example</a>. I'm not seeing the purpose in changing the text used by the original uploader on the other project. These sections are no-wiki'd. <a href="/wiki/User:Kelly" title="User:Kelly">Kelly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kelly" title="User talk:Kelly"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Kelly-2018-04-05T22:41:00.000Z-Changing_date_formats_in_original_upload_logs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 5 April 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kelly-2018-04-05T22:41:00.000Z-Changing_date_formats_in_original_upload_logs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kelly-2018-04-05T22:41:00.000Z-Changing_date_formats_in_original_upload_logs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2018-04-06T07:24:00.000Z-Kelly-2018-04-05T22:41:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the hint <a href="/wiki/User:Kelly" title="User:Kelly">Kelly</a>. I will fix my bot accordingly. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2018-04-06T07:24:00.000Z-Kelly-2018-04-05T22:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 6 April 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2018-04-06T07:24:00.000Z-Kelly-2018-04-05T22:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2018-04-06T07:24:00.000Z-Kelly-2018-04-05T22:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Is_this_really_an_improvement?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Is_this_really_an_improvement?-2018-07-11T00:27:00.000Z"><span id="Is_this_really_an_improvement.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Is_this_really_an_improvement?-2018-07-11T00:27:00.000Z"></span>Is this really an improvement?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Is_this_really_an_improvement?-2018-07-11T00:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Is this really an improvement?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Cesar_Virata,_1983.jpg&curid=16142865&diff=310535680&oldid=273753915"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jmabel-2018-07-11T00:27:00.000Z-Is_this_really_an_improvement?"></span>https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Cesar_Virata,_1983.jpg&curid=16142865&diff=310535680&oldid=273753915</a> </p><p>Seems to me that the prior layout was easier to read when editing. Quite a few like this. - <a href="/wiki/User:Jmabel" title="User:Jmabel">Jmabel</a> ! <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jmabel" title="User talk:Jmabel">talk</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Jmabel-2018-07-11T00:27:00.000Z-Is_this_really_an_improvement?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:27, 11 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jmabel-2018-07-11T00:27:00.000Z-Is_this_really_an_improvement?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jmabel-2018-07-11T00:27:00.000Z-Is_this_really_an_improvement?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Michael_Bednarek-2018-07-11T04:37:00.000Z-Jmabel-2018-07-11T00:27:00.000Z"></span>And <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:David_Henry_Hwang.jpg&curid=6607173&diff=310505762&oldid=275775900">here</a> and <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:David_Henry_Hwang.jpg&diff=next&oldid=310505762">again</a> on the same file? There are many more "edits" like that. Please stop it. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Michael_Bednarek" title="User:Michael Bednarek">Michael Bednarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Michael_Bednarek" title="User talk:Michael Bednarek"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Michael_Bednarek-2018-07-11T04:37:00.000Z-Jmabel-2018-07-11T00:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:37, 11 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Michael_Bednarek-2018-07-11T04:37:00.000Z-Jmabel-2018-07-11T00:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Michael_Bednarek-2018-07-11T04:37:00.000Z-Jmabel-2018-07-11T00:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2018-07-11T06:41:00.000Z-Michael_Bednarek-2018-07-11T04:37:00.000Z"></span>Sorry guys, i made it to prepare further cleanups. It is stopped now. Hopefully, nothing is broken. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2018-07-11T06:41:00.000Z-Michael_Bednarek-2018-07-11T04:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:41, 11 July 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2018-07-11T06:41:00.000Z-Michael_Bednarek-2018-07-11T04:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2018-07-11T06:41:00.000Z-Michael_Bednarek-2018-07-11T04:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="really?" data-mw-thread-id="h-really?-2018-11-06T21:28:00.000Z"><span id="really.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-really?-2018-11-06T21:28:00.000Z"></span>really?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-really?-2018-11-06T21:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: really?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:2011-06_Jarczowice_3.jpg&curid=15862447&diff=326774623&oldid=326601938"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sicherlich-2018-11-06T21:28:00.000Z-really?"></span>really</a>? Is that the change you intended to do? erasing an empty line? ...<a href="/wiki/User:Sicherlich" title="User:Sicherlich"><span style="color:#348853">Sicherlich</span></a> <sup> <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Sicherlich" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer Diskussion:Sicherlich">talk</a> </sup> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Sicherlich-2018-11-06T21:28:00.000Z-really?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 6 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sicherlich-2018-11-06T21:28:00.000Z-really?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sicherlich-2018-11-06T21:28:00.000Z-really?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2018-11-07T05:14:00.000Z-Sicherlich-2018-11-06T21:28:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Sicherlich" title="User:Sicherlich">Sicherlich</a>, sorry for it. I kindly ask to ignore this since this should happen only to very very very view cases of my current bot run where i already did manual corrections beforehand. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2018-11-07T05:14:00.000Z-Sicherlich-2018-11-06T21:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:14, 7 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2018-11-07T05:14:00.000Z-Sicherlich-2018-11-06T21:28:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2018-11-07T05:14:00.000Z-Sicherlich-2018-11-06T21:28:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sicherlich-2018-11-07T05:32:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-11-07T05:14:00.000Z"></span>well I had several on my watchlist. ... As i saw you tried to remove the int:license-header thing right? Tell me what is the point of it. I dont get it. I asume it got to my pic via commonist. Later <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:2011-06_Jarczowice_3.jpg&diff=115336358&oldid=56965398">YaCBot added header</a>, 2 days ago <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:2011-06_Jarczowice_3.jpg&diff=next&oldid=115336358">Aschroet removed it</a> [thats the reason for you bot removing emty lines right?] and now your bot. What does that help at all. Where is the benefit having it or not having it? I have the impresssion most of my pics have more edits by bots that change actually nothing a user can see!? ...<a href="/wiki/User:Sicherlich" title="User:Sicherlich"><span style="color:#348853">Sicherlich</span></a> <sup> <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Sicherlich" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer Diskussion:Sicherlich">talk</a> </sup> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Sicherlich-2018-11-07T05:32:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-11-07T05:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:32, 7 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sicherlich-2018-11-07T05:32:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-11-07T05:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sicherlich-2018-11-07T05:32:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-11-07T05:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2018-11-07T07:56:00.000Z-Sicherlich-2018-11-07T05:32:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Sicherlich" title="User:Sicherlich">Sicherlich</a>, i am cleaning up the wikitext here. The license section makes no sense at all if no license template but only the the categories follow after it. So i remove it. It seems to me that this is/was a problem of the upload tool. However, most files with this issues were uploaded till 2012. So i assume that the tools have been modified already.</dd> <dd>The empty line removal is only a "side" edit. But as i already said this should not be the only edit.</dd> <dd>Generally, many of these cleanups will end when Commons soon moves to <a href="/wiki/Commons:Structured_data" title="Commons:Structured data">Commons:Structured data</a> where we then have the data stored in a structured way and not in ugly wiki anymore. You can see many of those bot edits as a preparation for it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2018-11-07T07:56:00.000Z-Sicherlich-2018-11-07T05:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 7 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2018-11-07T07:56:00.000Z-Sicherlich-2018-11-07T05:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2018-11-07T07:56:00.000Z-Sicherlich-2018-11-07T05:32:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sicherlich-2018-11-07T10:02:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-11-07T07:56:00.000Z"></span>hmm, so the license-header removing is more or less a cosmetic thing? The structured data is about metadata: but what data has this header? Non?! (preparation: the YaCBot was in 2004. So thats unexpected to such a long term preparation :P ) - okay I dont really get it. Some years ago it seemed important to have it, but different, now its important to remove it. Seems to me like pointless edits but I hope there is just deep sense I'm just to studpid to see ;o) ...<a href="/wiki/User:Sicherlich" title="User:Sicherlich"><span style="color:#348853">Sicherlich</span></a> <sup> <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Sicherlich" class="extiw" title="de:Benutzer Diskussion:Sicherlich">talk</a> </sup> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Sicherlich-2018-11-07T10:02:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-11-07T07:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:02, 7 November 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sicherlich-2018-11-07T10:02:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-11-07T07:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sicherlich-2018-11-07T10:02:00.000Z-Aschroet-2018-11-07T07:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata-2019-04-30T08:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata-2019-04-30T08:54:00.000Z"></span>Removing data that is provided by Wikidata<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata-2019-04-30T08:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Removing data that is provided by Wikidata"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Frank_C._Müller-2019-04-30T08:54:00.000Z-Removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:ArndBot" title="User:ArndBot">ArndBot</a>! </p><p>It seems that you are deleting categories in Commons, e.g. <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3AJean-Philippe_Wadle&type=revision&diff=347858946&oldid=342461819">here</a>. Can you give me a hint, where this is discussed before? Before you deleted the <a href="/wiki/Category:1980_births" title="Category:1980 births">Category:1980 births</a> I could rather comfortably query it in Commons, and I got about 5000 people born in 1980. Can you tell me, how I may do this or something equivalent now, without this category? </p><p>gruß, fcm. --<a href="/wiki/User:Frank_C._M%C3%BCller" title="User:Frank C. Müller">Frank C. Müller</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Frank_C._M%C3%BCller" title="User talk:Frank C. Müller"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Frank_C._Müller-2019-04-30T08:54:00.000Z-Removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:54, 30 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Frank_C._Müller-2019-04-30T08:54:00.000Z-Removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Frank_C._Müller-2019-04-30T08:54:00.000Z-Removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2019-04-30T10:33:00.000Z-Frank_C._Müller-2019-04-30T08:54:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Frank_C._M%C3%BCller" title="User:Frank C. Müller">Frank C. Müller</a>, the discussion was <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox#Removal_of_birth_and_death_categories" title="Template talk:Wikidata Infobox">here</a>. The category is still there but automatically generated by the connected Wikidata item. Since Commons is mainly a media repository and not made for storing facts like Wikidata it is better to take it from there. For your example you find him under Wadle: <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:1980_births&from=W">here</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2019-04-30T10:33:00.000Z-Frank_C._Müller-2019-04-30T08:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:33, 30 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2019-04-30T10:33:00.000Z-Frank_C._Müller-2019-04-30T08:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2019-04-30T10:33:00.000Z-Frank_C._Müller-2019-04-30T08:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Frank_C._Müller-2019-04-30T14:42:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-04-30T10:33:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:ArndBot" title="User:ArndBot">Arnd</a>! Thanks a lot! gruß, fcm. --<a href="/wiki/User:Frank_C._M%C3%BCller" title="User:Frank C. Müller">Frank C. Müller</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Frank_C._M%C3%BCller" title="User talk:Frank C. Müller"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Frank_C._Müller-2019-04-30T14:42:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-04-30T10:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:42, 30 April 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Frank_C._Müller-2019-04-30T14:42:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-04-30T10:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Frank_C._Müller-2019-04-30T14:42:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-04-30T10:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Empty_categories" data-mw-thread-id="h-Empty_categories-2019-05-01T10:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Empty_categories-2019-05-01T10:10:00.000Z"></span>Empty categories<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Empty_categories-2019-05-01T10:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Empty categories"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T10:10:00.000Z-Empty_categories"></span>Hello.Please stop emptying the categories.Please delete redundant stuff only <a href="/wiki/User:%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%84_%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A8%D8%A9_%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84_2" title="User:ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2">ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%84_%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A8%D8%A9_%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84_2" title="User talk:ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T10:10:00.000Z-Empty_categories" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:10, 1 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T10:10:00.000Z-Empty_categories"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T10:10:00.000Z-Empty_categories"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%84_%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A8%D8%A9_%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84_2" title="User:ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2019-05-01T13:52:00.000Z-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T10:10:00.000Z"></span>ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2</a>, example? --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2019-05-01T13:52:00.000Z-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T10:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 1 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2019-05-01T13:52:00.000Z-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T10:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2019-05-01T13:52:00.000Z-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T10:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=ArndBot&namespace=&tagfilter=mw-blank&start=&end="><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T14:04:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-05-01T13:52:00.000Z"></span>17 times</a> in few days <a href="/wiki/User:%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%84_%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A8%D8%A9_%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84_2" title="User:ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2">ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%84_%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A8%D8%A9_%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84_2" title="User talk:ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T14:04:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-05-01T13:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 1 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T14:04:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-05-01T13:52:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T14:04:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-05-01T13:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%84_%D9%88%D9%87%D8%A8%D8%A9_%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84_2" title="User:ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2019-05-01T16:13:00.000Z-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T14:04:00.000Z"></span>ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2</a>, there were slashes in the "given name" of the WD item what broke my regexes. Fix now. Just let me know when something else happens, and feel free to just revert the edits if they are inappropriate. Anyway, thank your for being patient. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2019-05-01T16:13:00.000Z-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T14:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 1 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2019-05-01T16:13:00.000Z-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T14:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2019-05-01T16:13:00.000Z-ديفيد_عادل_وهبة_خليل_2-2019-05-01T14:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Exif_date" data-mw-thread-id="h-Exif_date-2019-05-16T10:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Exif_date-2019-05-16T10:11:00.000Z"></span>Exif date<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Exif_date-2019-05-16T10:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Exif date"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T10:11:00.000Z-Exif_date"></span>Hello, ArndBot! Are you still doing <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/262123320" title="Special:Diff/262123320">this kind of edits</a>? I ask because it’s something I have been thinking it would be a goiod idea for a long time and only now I encountered your work for the first time. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tuvalkin" title="User:Tuvalkin">Tuválkin</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tuvalkin" title="User talk:Tuvalkin">✉</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin" title="Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin">✇</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T10:11:00.000Z-Exif_date" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 16 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T10:11:00.000Z-Exif_date"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T10:11:00.000Z-Exif_date"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2019-05-16T11:13:00.000Z-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T10:11:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Tuvalkin" title="User:Tuvalkin">Tuválkin</a>, that time i made one big bot run. I can do it again on demand. Do you think that this cases are many still now? --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2019-05-16T11:13:00.000Z-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T10:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 16 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2019-05-16T11:13:00.000Z-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T10:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2019-05-16T11:13:00.000Z-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T10:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T21:50:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-05-16T11:13:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Aschroet</a>: </span> Thanks for replying! I have added manually hundreds of <code>{{exif date|</code> while dissiminating photos in <a href="/wiki/Category:Lisbon" title="Category:Lisbon">Category:Lisbon</a> and in several smaller ones. I suppose it is the same pretty much everywhere else with a large, constant influx of new photos. Annoyingly, most uploading services (namely Flickr2Commons) do not transcribe the value for seconds from the photo’s metadata, only hours and minutes, and adding that is an additional hassle that could be automatized. I like to do a human’s work when categorizing, but the added work used for easily automated tasks is thankless. I would say that trapping new uploads with filetype = JPEG would yield useful results. Of course, the kind of timestamp we want is the generation date, not modification. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tuvalkin" title="User:Tuvalkin">Tuválkin</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tuvalkin" title="User talk:Tuvalkin">✉</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin" title="Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin">✇</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T21:50:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-05-16T11:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 16 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T21:50:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-05-16T11:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T21:50:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-05-16T11:13:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Tuvalkin" title="User:Tuvalkin"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2019-05-19T19:46:00.000Z-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T21:50:00.000Z"></span>Tuválkin</a>, lets see if i can bring a bot in place. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2019-05-19T19:46:00.000Z-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T21:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 19 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2019-05-19T19:46:00.000Z-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T21:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2019-05-19T19:46:00.000Z-Tuvalkin-2019-05-16T21:50:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tuvalkin-2019-05-19T19:56:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-05-19T19:46:00.000Z"></span>Great, thanks! -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tuvalkin" title="User:Tuvalkin">Tuválkin</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tuvalkin" title="User talk:Tuvalkin">✉</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin" title="Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin">✇</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Tuvalkin-2019-05-19T19:56:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-05-19T19:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:56, 19 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tuvalkin-2019-05-19T19:56:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-05-19T19:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tuvalkin-2019-05-19T19:56:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-05-19T19:46:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata_2-2019-05-22T20:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata_2-2019-05-22T20:46:00.000Z"></span>removing data that is provided by Wikidata<span data-mw-comment-end="h-removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata_2-2019-05-22T20:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: removing data that is provided by Wikidata"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WaldiWuff-2019-05-22T20:46:00.000Z-removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata_2"></span>No, it isn't - wegen mehrerer unterschiedlicher Geburts- oder Todesdaten auf Wikidata: </p> <ul><li><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3AFriedrich_Schultze_%28neurologist%29&type=revision&diff=351499874&oldid=351463300">Category:Friedrich Schultze (neurologist)</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3AHeinrich_Bassermann&type=revision&diff=351500200&oldid=351462508">Category:Heinrich Bassermann</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3AFriedrich_Arnold_%28anatomist%29&type=revision&diff=351500315&oldid=351457323">Category:Friedrich Arnold (anatomist)</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3AVictor_von_Andrejanoff&type=revision&diff=351500544&oldid=351445491">Category:Victor von Andrejanoff</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3AAugust_Dillmann&type=revision&diff=351500633&oldid=351451263">Category:August Dillmann</a></li></ul> <p>--<a href="/wiki/User:WaldiWuff" title="User:WaldiWuff">WaldiWuff</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WaldiWuff" title="User talk:WaldiWuff"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-WaldiWuff-2019-05-22T20:46:00.000Z-removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 22 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WaldiWuff-2019-05-22T20:46:00.000Z-removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WaldiWuff-2019-05-22T20:46:00.000Z-removing_data_that_is_provided_by_Wikidata_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:WaldiWuff" title="User:WaldiWuff"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2019-10-04T07:09:00.000Z-WaldiWuff-2019-05-22T20:46:00.000Z"></span>WaldiWuff</a>, i fixed the Bot accordingly. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2019-10-04T07:09:00.000Z-WaldiWuff-2019-05-22T20:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:09, 4 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2019-10-04T07:09:00.000Z-WaldiWuff-2019-05-22T20:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2019-10-04T07:09:00.000Z-WaldiWuff-2019-05-22T20:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="defaultsort=no" data-mw-thread-id="h-defaultsort=no-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z"><span id="defaultsort.3Dno"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-defaultsort=no-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z"></span>defaultsort=no<span data-mw-comment-end="h-defaultsort=no-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: defaultsort=no"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuTa-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z-defaultsort=no"></span>Hi, see i.e. <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Mike_Reilly_(quarterback)&diff=prev&oldid=369983181">here</a>. When you remove a DEFAULTSORT please remove also the defaultsort=no from the infobox call too because <a href="/wiki/Category:Mike_Reilly_(quarterback)" title="Category:Mike Reilly (quarterback)">Mr. Rilley</a> is now sorted anywhere under M and not R. Thx --<a href="/wiki/User:JuTa" title="User:JuTa">Ju</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuTa" title="User talk:JuTa">Ta</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-JuTa-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z-defaultsort=no" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:22, 9 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuTa-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z-defaultsort=no"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuTa-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z-defaultsort=no"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:JuTa" title="User:JuTa"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2019-10-09T14:56:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z"></span>JuTa</a>, i am aware of this issue and will remove this after my bot finishes. Actually, i don't know why <a href="/wiki/User:Pi_bot" title="User:Pi bot">Pi bot</a> add this parameters. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2019-10-09T14:56:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 9 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2019-10-09T14:56:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2019-10-09T14:56:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuTa-2019-10-09T17:08:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z"></span>So that means another run removing that after the current run, correct? And Pi bot added that mainly when there was a mismatch between the local DEFAULTSORT and the sort based on the infobox. That was often the case if the name contained some non-startard ASCII characters. But that got fixed a while ago - see the end of <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox#Removal_of_birth_and_death_categories" title="Template talk:Wikidata Infobox">this thread</a> - opened by yourself :) regards. --<a href="/wiki/User:JuTa" title="User:JuTa">Ju</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuTa" title="User talk:JuTa">Ta</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-JuTa-2019-10-09T17:08:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 9 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuTa-2019-10-09T17:08:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuTa-2019-10-09T17:08:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-09T14:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:JuTa" title="User:JuTa"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2019-10-10T07:42:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-09T17:08:00.000Z"></span>JuTa</a>, correct. I will clean up after the current run which will finish soon. It is clear for me when the bot usually adds <i>defaultsort=no</i> but in the case that you mention above there is no such special character in the surname or given name. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2019-10-10T07:42:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-09T17:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 10 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2019-10-10T07:42:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-09T17:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2019-10-10T07:42:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-09T17:08:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuTa-2019-10-10T08:03:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-10-10T07:42:00.000Z"></span>Maybe because there was no family name on wikidata at the time when he set it. --<a href="/wiki/User:JuTa" title="User:JuTa">Ju</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuTa" title="User talk:JuTa">Ta</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-JuTa-2019-10-10T08:03:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-10-10T07:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:03, 10 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuTa-2019-10-10T08:03:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-10-10T07:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuTa-2019-10-10T08:03:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-10-10T07:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Peel-2019-10-13T16:06:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-10T08:03:00.000Z"></span>I think the defaultsort=no was added in that case because of <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q361309&diff=937481878&oldid=920464098">this vandalism</a>. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Peel" title="User:Mike Peel">Mike Peel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Peel" title="User talk:Mike Peel"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Mike_Peel-2019-10-13T16:06:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-10T08:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 13 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Peel-2019-10-13T16:06:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-10T08:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Peel-2019-10-13T16:06:00.000Z-JuTa-2019-10-10T08:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:JuTa" title="User:JuTa"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2019-10-13T20:58:00.000Z-defaultsort=no"></span>JuTa</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Peel" title="User:Mike Peel">Mike</a>. Cleanup has finished. Interestingly--<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2019-10-13T20:58:00.000Z-defaultsort=no" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 13 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2019-10-13T20:58:00.000Z-defaultsort=no"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2019-10-13T20:58:00.000Z-defaultsort=no"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuTa-2019-10-15T06:45:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-10-13T20:58:00.000Z"></span>Thx. --<a href="/wiki/User:JuTa" title="User:JuTa">Ju</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuTa" title="User talk:JuTa">Ta</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-JuTa-2019-10-15T06:45:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-10-13T20:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:45, 15 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuTa-2019-10-15T06:45:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-10-13T20:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuTa-2019-10-15T06:45:00.000Z-Aschroet-2019-10-13T20:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removing_defaultsort" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removing_defaultsort-2020-07-12T03:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removing_defaultsort-2020-07-12T03:14:00.000Z"></span>Removing defaultsort<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removing_defaultsort-2020-07-12T03:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Removing defaultsort"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rsteen-2020-07-12T03:14:00.000Z-Removing_defaultsort"></span>Hi. Perhaps you could explain why your bot is removing the DEFAULTSORT arguments in pages. Problem is, that for Nordic artists, we use the three letters "æ", "ø" and "å" to get the names sorted correctly, when those letters are part of the names. This goes against the infobox standard way, and therefore the DEFAULTSORT has to be put in place in those instances. However, when your bot removes the DEFAULTSORT, we are back with a wrong sortorder. Any solution? Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:Rsteen" title="User:Rsteen">Rsteen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rsteen" title="User talk:Rsteen"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Rsteen-2020-07-12T03:14:00.000Z-Removing_defaultsort" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:14, 12 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rsteen-2020-07-12T03:14:00.000Z-Removing_defaultsort"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rsteen-2020-07-12T03:14:00.000Z-Removing_defaultsort"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Rsteen" title="User:Rsteen"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2020-07-12T11:01:00.000Z-Rsteen-2020-07-12T03:14:00.000Z"></span>Rsteen</a>, do you have an example? --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2020-07-12T11:01:00.000Z-Rsteen-2020-07-12T03:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:01, 12 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2020-07-12T11:01:00.000Z-Rsteen-2020-07-12T03:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2020-07-12T11:01:00.000Z-Rsteen-2020-07-12T03:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rsteen-2020-07-12T15:19:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-12T11:01:00.000Z"></span>Sure, this one is a classic: <a href="/wiki/Category:Christine_L%C3%B8vmand" title="Category:Christine Løvmand">Category:Christine Løvmand</a>. Just look at the history. I never knew what was happening ... Cheers --<a href="/wiki/User:Rsteen" title="User:Rsteen">Rsteen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rsteen" title="User talk:Rsteen"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Rsteen-2020-07-12T15:19:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-12T11:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 12 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rsteen-2020-07-12T15:19:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-12T11:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rsteen-2020-07-12T15:19:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-12T11:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Rsteen" title="User:Rsteen"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2020-07-13T06:11:00.000Z-Rsteen-2020-07-12T15:19:00.000Z"></span>Rsteen</a>, shouldn't this be discussed on <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox" title="Template talk:Wikidata Infobox">Template talk:Wikidata Infobox</a>? Maybe it could be directly implemented in the template or they can offer a parameter for that. Btw, i discussed the bot task there as well, on <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox#Removal_of_birth_and_death_categories" title="Template talk:Wikidata Infobox">Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox#Removal_of_birth_and_death_categories</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2020-07-13T06:11:00.000Z-Rsteen-2020-07-12T15:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:11, 13 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2020-07-13T06:11:00.000Z-Rsteen-2020-07-12T15:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2020-07-13T06:11:00.000Z-Rsteen-2020-07-12T15:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rsteen-2020-07-13T08:55:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-13T06:11:00.000Z"></span>Hi again. Afraid that is too technical for me. Thing is: A Defaultsort has been placed in the category, and your bot removes it. Please stop that. Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:Rsteen" title="User:Rsteen">Rsteen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rsteen" title="User talk:Rsteen"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Rsteen-2020-07-13T08:55:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-13T06:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:55, 13 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rsteen-2020-07-13T08:55:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-13T06:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rsteen-2020-07-13T08:55:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-13T06:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Rsteen" title="User:Rsteen"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2020-07-13T10:00:00.000Z-Removing_defaultsort"></span>Rsteen</a>, I stopped for my bot for the moment. <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Peel" title="User:Mike Peel">Mike</a>, you adapted the <a href="/wiki/Template:Wikidata_Infobox" title="Template:Wikidata Infobox"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Wikidata Infobox}}</span></a> so that the DEFAULTSORTs parameter does not use special letters like "å". Is this a general rule in Commons or is it acceptable to override this conversion by reintroducing the special letters manually in DEFAULTSORT? --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2020-07-13T10:00:00.000Z-Removing_defaultsort" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 13 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2020-07-13T10:00:00.000Z-Removing_defaultsort"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2020-07-13T10:00:00.000Z-Removing_defaultsort"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Peel-2020-07-13T15:55:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-13T10:00:00.000Z"></span>This was at the request of <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:JuTa" title="User:JuTa">JuTa</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a>: </span>, if I remember correctly. Hopefully they can comment on whether it's appropriate in these cases. For your bot work, it might be best to not remove cases where the existing DEFAULTSORT includes diacritics - i.e., make sure the manually defined and the automatic ones are the same. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Peel" title="User:Mike Peel">Mike Peel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_Peel" title="User talk:Mike Peel"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Mike_Peel-2020-07-13T15:55:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-13T10:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:55, 13 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Peel-2020-07-13T15:55:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-13T10:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Peel-2020-07-13T15:55:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-13T10:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tacsipacsi-2020-07-13T21:17:00.000Z-Mike_Peel-2020-07-13T15:55:00.000Z"></span>Using accented letters rarely gives appropriate results: these are sorted after all non-accented ones. In the Scandinavian languages this appears to be correct, but in other (I think the most) languages like French or Hungarian it isn’t: accented letters either sort the very same as unaccented ones (e.g. in Hungarian, <i>Ádám</i> sorts exactly the same as <i>Adam</i>) or are right after the non-accented (e.g. <i>Ottó, Ödön, Péter</i>). So I still think removing accents is generally a better solution.</dd> <dd>That said, the bot should not remove things that are not exactly, byte-for-byte the same; if the infobox produces the sort key <code>Lovmand, Christine</code>, and the category has a defsort of <code>Løvmand, Christine</code>, <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r588530194">.mw-parser-output .nowrap,.mw-parser-output .nowrap a:before,.mw-parser-output .nowrap .selflink:before{white-space:nowrap}</style><code class="nowrap">|defaultsort=no</code> should be added and not the correct sort key should be removed. (I just noticed that Christine Løvmand’s category already had this infobox parameter. This means that the bot stated it removed things provided by the infobox, but in fact the infobox hasn’t provided any sort key, as it was explicitly disabled. That’s certainly a bug that needs to be fixed in the bot.) —<a href="/wiki/User:Tacsipacsi" title="User:Tacsipacsi">Tacsipacsi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tacsipacsi" title="User talk:Tacsipacsi"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Tacsipacsi-2020-07-13T21:17:00.000Z-Mike_Peel-2020-07-13T15:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 13 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tacsipacsi-2020-07-13T21:17:00.000Z-Mike_Peel-2020-07-13T15:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tacsipacsi-2020-07-13T21:17:00.000Z-Mike_Peel-2020-07-13T15:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2020-07-19T07:22:00.000Z-Removing_defaultsort"></span>I fixed the bot so that names with diacritics are skipped. However, i think in an international project like Commons/Wikidata there should be a standard way to work with the sorting of such names. This should be done automatically without the possibility to override manually. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2020-07-19T07:22:00.000Z-Removing_defaultsort" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:22, 19 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2020-07-19T07:22:00.000Z-Removing_defaultsort"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2020-07-19T07:22:00.000Z-Removing_defaultsort"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hans_Erren-2020-08-26T05:52:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-19T07:22:00.000Z"></span>Same for Dutch surnames such as Dutch director <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_van_Kamer" class="extiw" title="nl:Jan van Kamer">nl:Jan van Kamer</a> should be sorted as "Kamer, Jan van", words as "van" and "van der" are ignored in Holland, however, to make things complicated, not in Belgium and the USA. <a href="/wiki/User:Hans_Erren" title="User:Hans Erren">Hans Erren</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hans_Erren" title="User talk:Hans Erren"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Hans_Erren-2020-08-26T05:52:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-19T07:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:52, 26 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hans_Erren-2020-08-26T05:52:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-19T07:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hans_Erren-2020-08-26T05:52:00.000Z-Aschroet-2020-07-19T07:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Jean_Mariette" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Jean_Mariette-2020-07-12T08:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Jean_Mariette-2020-07-12T08:49:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:Jean_Mariette" title="Category:Jean Mariette">Category:Jean Mariette</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Jean_Mariette-2020-07-12T08:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Category:Jean Mariette"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robert.Allen-2020-07-12T08:49:00.000Z-Category:Jean_Mariette"></span>ArndBot removed "{{DEFAULTSORT:Mariette, Jean}}", but did not remove "|defaultsort=no" from "{{Wikidata Infobox|defaultsort=no}}". This causes the category to be sorted under J rather than M at, for example, <a href="/wiki/Category:Printmakers_from_France" title="Category:Printmakers from France">Category:Printmakers from France</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Robert.Allen" title="User:Robert.Allen">Robert.Allen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robert.Allen" title="User talk:Robert.Allen"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Robert.Allen-2020-07-12T08:49:00.000Z-Category:Jean_Mariette" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:49, 12 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robert.Allen-2020-07-12T08:49:00.000Z-Category:Jean_Mariette"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robert.Allen-2020-07-12T08:49:00.000Z-Category:Jean_Mariette"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2020-07-12T11:42:00.000Z-Robert.Allen-2020-07-12T08:49:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Robert.Allen" title="User:Robert.Allen">Robert.Allen</a>, thank you for the hint. I fixed the bot <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Micha%C5%82_Goli%C5%84ski&diff=prev&oldid=432684064">[6]</a> and try to I clean up what i missed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2020-07-12T11:42:00.000Z-Robert.Allen-2020-07-12T08:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2020-07-12T11:42:00.000Z-Robert.Allen-2020-07-12T08:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2020-07-12T11:42:00.000Z-Robert.Allen-2020-07-12T08:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Good_work" data-mw-thread-id="h-Good_work-2021-01-31T13:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Good_work-2021-01-31T13:52:00.000Z"></span>Good work<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Good_work-2021-01-31T13:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: Good work"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-E4024-2021-01-31T13:52:00.000Z-Good_work"></span>Helping us to prevent and eliminate overcats. A bot is an object, nobody will -normally- come and revert you thinking "Why does this jerk correct my wrong POV edits?" Thank you very much. Greetings to your operator. --<a href="/wiki/User:E4024" class="mw-redirect" title="User:E4024">E4024</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:E4024" title="User talk:E4024"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-E4024-2021-01-31T13:52:00.000Z-Good_work" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 31 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-E4024-2021-01-31T13:52:00.000Z-Good_work"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-E4024-2021-01-31T13:52:00.000Z-Good_work"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ｔｏｍ-2022-06-11T16:44:00.000Z-Good_work"></span>+1 <b>Very good work!</b> Just eventually i have seen this<a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Karl_Ernst_Nipkow&diff=349987931&oldid=347895318">[7]</a> and this<a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=ArndBot&namespace=14&tagfilter=&start=&end=&limit=5000">[8]</a>. When this can be implemented for german wikipedia for ... let's say for erasing <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Mann" class="extiw" title="de:Kategorie:Mann">de:Kategorie:Mann</a> and <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorie:Frau" class="extiw" title="de:Kategorie:Frau">de:Kategorie:Frau</a> as a first beginning introduction? FYI: I am Member of the german WP:Kat-Proj. and we are just in disscussion about possibilities to switch to wikidata in <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:WikiProjekt_Kategorien#Wikidata_und_die_Zukunft_des_Kategoriesystems_von_de:Wikipedia" class="extiw" title="de:Wikipedia Diskussion:WikiProjekt Kategorien">de:Wikipedia_Diskussion:WikiProjekt_Kategorien#Wikidata_und_die_Zukunft_des_Kategoriesystems_von_de:Wikipedia</a>. Best --<a href="/wiki/User:%EF%BC%B4%EF%BD%8F%EF%BD%8D" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Ｔｏｍ">Ｔｏｍ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%EF%BC%B4%EF%BD%8F%EF%BD%8D" title="User talk:Ｔｏｍ"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Ｔｏｍ-2022-06-11T16:44:00.000Z-Good_work" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:44, 11 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ｔｏｍ-2022-06-11T16:44:00.000Z-Good_work"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ｔｏｍ-2022-06-11T16:44:00.000Z-Good_work"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Defaultsort" data-mw-thread-id="h-Defaultsort-2021-02-14T14:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Defaultsort-2021-02-14T14:15:00.000Z"></span>Defaultsort<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Defaultsort-2021-02-14T14:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Defaultsort"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oursana-2021-02-14T14:15:00.000Z-Defaultsort"></span>was deleted </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3ABarthel_Beham&type=revision&diff=527839491&oldid=364866876">https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3ABarthel_Beham&type=revision&diff=527839491&oldid=364866876</a> </p><p><a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3AAgnolo_Gaddi&type=revision&diff=527860838&oldid=436016431">https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category%3AAgnolo_Gaddi&type=revision&diff=527860838&oldid=436016431</a> </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Oursana-2021-02-14T14:15:00.000Z-Defaultsort" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 14 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oursana-2021-02-14T14:15:00.000Z-Defaultsort"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oursana-2021-02-14T14:15:00.000Z-Defaultsort"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2021-02-14T15:51:00.000Z-Oursana-2021-02-14T14:15:00.000Z"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a>, what problem do you see? <a href="/wiki/Template:Wikidata_Infobox" title="Template:Wikidata Infobox"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Wikidata Infobox}}</span></a> automatically adds this information. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2021-02-14T15:51:00.000Z-Oursana-2021-02-14T14:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 14 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2021-02-14T15:51:00.000Z-Oursana-2021-02-14T14:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2021-02-14T15:51:00.000Z-Oursana-2021-02-14T14:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oursana-2021-02-14T16:11:00.000Z-Aschroet-2021-02-14T15:51:00.000Z"></span>Yes A.schroet, it seems to work, but in <a href="/wiki/Category:Renaissance_painters_from_Italy" title="Category:Renaissance painters from Italy">Renaissance painters from Italy</a> the three Ghirlandaio brothers Benedetto, Davide and Domenico are not alphabetical sorted as I did considering also their first names. Where can I check or change the sorting in general?<a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Oursana-2021-02-14T16:11:00.000Z-Aschroet-2021-02-14T15:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:11, 14 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oursana-2021-02-14T16:11:00.000Z-Aschroet-2021-02-14T15:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oursana-2021-02-14T16:11:00.000Z-Aschroet-2021-02-14T15:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-2021-02-15T08:35:00.000Z-Oursana-2021-02-14T16:11:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a>, i guess that the sorting is somehow influenced by the the two familiy names Ghirlandaio and Bigordi. In such a case the bot should not remove the DEFAULTSORT. I will fix that. So you should be able to add it manually without being afraid to it will be remove later. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-2021-02-15T08:35:00.000Z-Oursana-2021-02-14T16:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:35, 15 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-2021-02-15T08:35:00.000Z-Oursana-2021-02-14T16:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-2021-02-15T08:35:00.000Z-Oursana-2021-02-14T16:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oursana-2021-02-15T12:40:00.000Z-Aschroet-2021-02-15T08:35:00.000Z"></span>Thank you, that was a small problem, but not perfect<a href="/wiki/User:Oursana" title="User:Oursana">Oursana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oursana" title="User talk:Oursana"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Oursana-2021-02-15T12:40:00.000Z-Aschroet-2021-02-15T08:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oursana-2021-02-15T12:40:00.000Z-Aschroet-2021-02-15T08:35:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oursana-2021-02-15T12:40:00.000Z-Aschroet-2021-02-15T08:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Categories_erased" data-mw-thread-id="h-Categories_erased-2021-06-06T19:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Categories_erased-2021-06-06T19:11:00.000Z"></span>Categories erased<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Categories_erased-2021-06-06T19:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Categories erased"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fernando_de_Gorocica-2021-06-06T19:11:00.000Z-Categories_erased"></span>Why this Bot erased <b>Fernando (given name)</b> and <b>1962 births</b> categories from <b>Fernando de Gorocica</b> category? Sincerely yours. <a href="/wiki/User:Fernando_de_Gorocica" title="User:Fernando de Gorocica">Fernando de Gorocica</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fernando_de_Gorocica" title="User talk:Fernando de Gorocica"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Fernando_de_Gorocica-2021-06-06T19:11:00.000Z-Categories_erased" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 6 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fernando_de_Gorocica-2021-06-06T19:11:00.000Z-Categories_erased"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fernando_de_Gorocica-2021-06-06T19:11:00.000Z-Categories_erased"></span> </p> <dl><dd>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Fernando_de_Gorocica" title="User:Fernando de Gorocica">Fernando de Gorocica</a>, these categories are derived from Wikidata. When you open the category you will see it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="category_deleted_without_it_coming_from_wikidata" data-mw-thread-id="h-category_deleted_without_it_coming_from_wikidata-20231112101000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-category_deleted_without_it_coming_from_wikidata-20231112101000"></span>category deleted without it coming from wikidata<span data-mw-comment-end="h-category_deleted_without_it_coming_from_wikidata-20231112101000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: category deleted without it coming from wikidata"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ZioNicco-20231112101000-category_deleted_without_it_coming_from_wikidata"></span>in <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:San_Calcedonio&oldid=820818402">this</a> edit the category has been removed but it does not come from wikidata, probably because it is considered a fictitious human <a href="/wiki/User:ZioNicco" title="User:ZioNicco">ZioNicco</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ZioNicco" title="User talk:ZioNicco"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-ZioNicco-20231112101000-category_deleted_without_it_coming_from_wikidata" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:10, 12 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ZioNicco-20231112101000-category_deleted_without_it_coming_from_wikidata"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ZioNicco-20231112101000-category_deleted_without_it_coming_from_wikidata"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-20231119082700-ZioNicco-20231112101000"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:ZioNicco" title="User:ZioNicco">ZioNicco</a>, thank you for being patient. I guess you are right that this is because of the "instance" of the connected WD item. I mentioned this issue in the <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Wikidata_Infobox#Treat_"human_whose_existence_is_disputed"_like_"human"?" title="Template talk:Wikidata Infobox">WD infobox template talk</a>. Depending on the result i will adapt my Bot to filter out such special cases. Best regards, --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd 🇺🇦</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-20231119082700-ZioNicco-20231112101000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:27, 19 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-20231119082700-ZioNicco-20231112101000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-20231119082700-ZioNicco-20231112101000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Geolocation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Geolocation-20231121073300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Geolocation-20231121073300"></span>Geolocation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Geolocation-20231121073300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Geolocation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tuvalkin-20231121073300-Geolocation"></span>Don’t do <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/823458945" title="Special:Diff/823458945">this</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tuvalkin" title="User:Tuvalkin">Tuválkin</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tuvalkin" title="User talk:Tuvalkin">✉</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin" title="Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin">✇</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Tuvalkin-20231121073300-Geolocation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:33, 21 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tuvalkin-20231121073300-Geolocation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tuvalkin-20231121073300-Geolocation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enhancing999-20231121132700-Tuvalkin-20231121073300"></span>Agree. We discussed the point on project chat a while back. Please fix any contrary bot edits. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enhancing999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Enhancing999 (page does not exist)">Enhancing999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enhancing999" title="User talk:Enhancing999"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Enhancing999-20231121132700-Tuvalkin-20231121073300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 21 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enhancing999-20231121132700-Tuvalkin-20231121073300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enhancing999-20231121132700-Tuvalkin-20231121073300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tuvalkin-20231126113500-Tuvalkin-20231121073300"></span>Next <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/825156917" title="Special:Diff/825156917">time</a>, I’ll have to ask elsewhere. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tuvalkin" title="User:Tuvalkin">Tuválkin</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tuvalkin" title="User talk:Tuvalkin">✉</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin" title="Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin">✇</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Tuvalkin-20231126113500-Tuvalkin-20231121073300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:35, 26 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tuvalkin-20231126113500-Tuvalkin-20231121073300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tuvalkin-20231126113500-Tuvalkin-20231121073300"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Herzi_Pinki-20231126100800-Geolocation"></span>Hi, thanks for caring about redundant duplicate coordinates. But as you did in <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Burg_Groppenstein&diff=prev&oldid=825040264&diffmode=source">[9]</a> this will nor remove the redundant coordinates, but display them two times with same value retrieved from WD, once by <a href="/wiki/Template:Object_location" title="Template:Object location"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Object location}}</span></a> without args and once be <a href="/wiki/Template:Wikidata_Infobox" title="Template:Wikidata Infobox"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Wikidata Infobox}}</span></a>. best --<a href="/wiki/User:Herzi_Pinki" title="User:Herzi Pinki">Herzi Pinki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Herzi_Pinki" title="User talk:Herzi Pinki"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Herzi_Pinki-20231126100800-Geolocation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:08, 26 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Herzi_Pinki-20231126100800-Geolocation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Herzi_Pinki-20231126100800-Geolocation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enhancing999-20231126200000-Herzi_Pinki-20231126100800"></span>Please undo your edits and stop running any changes to coordinate templates. Thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enhancing999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Enhancing999 (page does not exist)">Enhancing999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enhancing999" title="User talk:Enhancing999"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Enhancing999-20231126200000-Herzi_Pinki-20231126100800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 26 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enhancing999-20231126200000-Herzi_Pinki-20231126100800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enhancing999-20231126200000-Herzi_Pinki-20231126100800"></span></dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Tuvalkin" title="User:Tuvalkin"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-20231127100000-Geolocation"></span>Tuválkin</a>,<a href="/wiki/User:Herzi_Pinki" title="User:Herzi Pinki">Herzi Pinki</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enhancing999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Enhancing999 (page does not exist)">Enhancing999</a>, two basic things one should bear in mind: (1) "Wikimedia Commons is a collection of [...] files" and (2) "The category structure is the primary way to organize and find files on the Commons". So the focus of Commons are files and they are just organized in categories. To "understand" a category, before Wikidata a lot of information about it has been added to the category pages as free text and many template, which was okay that time. Now with WD, there is no reason to keep any information in the category page that is already provided by WD via <a href="/wiki/Template:Wikidata_Infobox" title="Template:Wikidata Infobox"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Wikidata Infobox}}</span></a>. It is personal taste when one says that an additional Coordinates template is required to describe the category since the waste amount of categories is without it. If there is a common wish to have it, then it should be added to the <i>Wikidata Infobox</i>. This would also solve the problem of double WD-calls. What makes no sense in my mind, is to keep local coordinates when the same are available on WD. Best regards, --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd 🇺🇦</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-20231127100000-Geolocation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:00, 27 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-20231127100000-Geolocation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-20231127100000-Geolocation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tuvalkin-20231127100400-Aschroet-20231127100000"></span>Oh, so it’s not a mistake of your bot’s: It’s really you going against consensus — vandalizing Commons categories by removing human generated content and replacing it with garbage data syphoned from another WMF project. Very well. That needs to be addressed in the proper venue, not in the bot’s talk page. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Tuvalkin" title="User:Tuvalkin">Tuválkin</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tuvalkin" title="User talk:Tuvalkin">✉</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin" title="Special:Contributions/Tuvalkin">✇</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Tuvalkin-20231127100400-Aschroet-20231127100000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:04, 27 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tuvalkin-20231127100400-Aschroet-20231127100000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tuvalkin-20231127100400-Aschroet-20231127100000"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Herzi_Pinki-20231127103100-Geolocation"></span>Service: The referenced discussion was here: <a href="/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2023/08#Redundancy_'Wikidata_Infobox'_and_'Object_location'_in_category_descriptions" title="Commons:Village pump/Archive/2023/08">Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2023/08#Redundancy_'Wikidata_Infobox'_and_'Object_location'_in_category_descriptions</a>. best --<a href="/wiki/User:Herzi_Pinki" title="User:Herzi Pinki">Herzi Pinki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Herzi_Pinki" title="User talk:Herzi Pinki"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Herzi_Pinki-20231127103100-Geolocation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:31, 27 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Herzi_Pinki-20231127103100-Geolocation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Herzi_Pinki-20231127103100-Geolocation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bot_malfunction" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bot_malfunction-20240526201700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bot_malfunction-20240526201700"></span>Bot malfunction<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bot_malfunction-20240526201700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Bot malfunction"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enhancing999-20240526201700-Bot_malfunction"></span>It seems the bot is removing a category not provided by the Infobox <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Emil_Huber-Stockar&curid=144796223&diff=879511807&oldid=848508155">[10]</a>. Please fix. Also, please make sure to seek consensus before bot actions. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enhancing999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Enhancing999 (page does not exist)">Enhancing999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enhancing999" title="User talk:Enhancing999"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Enhancing999-20240526201700-Bot_malfunction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enhancing999-20240526201700-Bot_malfunction"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enhancing999-20240526201700-Bot_malfunction"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enhancing999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Enhancing999 (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-20240526202600-Enhancing999-20240526201700"></span>Enhancing999</a>, when i open <a href="/wiki/Category:Emil_Huber-Stockar" title="Category:Emil Huber-Stockar">Category:Emil Huber-Stockar</a> i still see <a href="/wiki/Category:People_by_name" title="Category:People by name">Category:People by name</a>. What i the problem? The bot already made tens of thousands of such edits without complaints. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd 🇺🇦</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-20240526202600-Enhancing999-20240526201700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:26, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-20240526202600-Enhancing999-20240526201700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-20240526202600-Enhancing999-20240526201700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enhancing999-20240526203200-Aschroet-20240526202600"></span>Now I see it. Strange. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enhancing999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Enhancing999 (page does not exist)">Enhancing999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enhancing999" title="User talk:Enhancing999"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Enhancing999-20240526203200-Aschroet-20240526202600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:32, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enhancing999-20240526203200-Aschroet-20240526202600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enhancing999-20240526203200-Aschroet-20240526202600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-20240526203400-Bot_malfunction"></span>ok, so i assume that everything is fine. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd 🇺🇦</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-20240526203400-Bot_malfunction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-20240526203400-Bot_malfunction"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-20240526203400-Bot_malfunction"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enhancing999-20240526205900-Aschroet-20240526203400"></span>It seems. The reason I added it manually was that I hadn't noticed it as being provided by the infobox. Maybe a temporary glitch there. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enhancing999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Enhancing999 (page does not exist)">Enhancing999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enhancing999" title="User talk:Enhancing999"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Enhancing999-20240526205900-Aschroet-20240526203400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enhancing999-20240526205900-Aschroet-20240526203400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enhancing999-20240526205900-Aschroet-20240526203400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="qid_removal" data-mw-thread-id="h-qid_removal-20241124192300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-qid_removal-20241124192300"></span>qid removal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-qid_removal-20241124192300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ArndBot&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: qid removal"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enhancing999-20241124192300-qid_removal"></span>Just wondering, any idea why <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Bild_Link%C3%B6ping&diff=prev&oldid=960530282">[11]</a> the usual bot missed these? <br/> ∞∞ <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enhancing999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Enhancing999 (page does not exist)">Enhancing999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enhancing999" title="User talk:Enhancing999"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Enhancing999-20241124192300-qid_removal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enhancing999-20241124192300-qid_removal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enhancing999-20241124192300-qid_removal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enhancing999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Enhancing999 (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aschroet-20241124195000-Enhancing999-20241124192300"></span>Enhancing999</a>, maybe i have "stolen" some work from another bot. I realized this too late. So i let my bot finish the task. I don't do this again. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aschroet" title="User:Aschroet">Arnd 🇺🇦</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aschroet" title="User talk:Aschroet"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Aschroet-20241124195000-Enhancing999-20241124192300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:50, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aschroet-20241124195000-Enhancing999-20241124192300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aschroet-20241124195000-Enhancing999-20241124192300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enhancing999-20241124201700-Aschroet-20241124195000"></span>In principle, it's a good thing when we have some redundancy in bots. I'm a bit more worried here that somehow the Mike's bot misses these or something is broken. <br/> ∞∞ <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enhancing999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Enhancing999 (page does not exist)">Enhancing999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enhancing999" title="User talk:Enhancing999"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ArndBot#c-Enhancing999-20241124201700-Aschroet-20241124195000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enhancing999-20241124201700-Aschroet-20241124195000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span 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