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May be back someday. You can consider my projects "unmaintained"; I would be happy to help anyone looking to take on maintenance of any of them.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>In particular, <a href="/wiki/User:Legoktm" title="User:Legoktm">Legoktm</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:0xDeadbeef" title="User:0xDeadbeef">0xDeadbeef</a> are the two other maintainers of apersonbot on Toolforge and should thus be your first point of contact for any of those projects.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>Keep in touch! Messages are warmly appreciated, whether via email, Discord (where my username is doctor_worm), or IRC. What's next? Probably a lot more <a href="/wiki/FIRST_Robotics_Competition" title="FIRST Robotics Competition">FRC</a>. Thank you all so much for the many good memories over the years. <3<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>Stay cool,<br /><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Enterprisey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enterprisey" title="User talk:Enterprisey">talk!</a>) 03:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)</td></tr></tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <figure class="mw-halign-center" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Chrysaetos_La_Ca%C3%B1ada_20120114_1.jpg" class="mw-file-description" title="Golden Eagle (Aquila chrysaetos) - La Cañada, Ávila, Spain"><img alt="Golden Eagle (Aquila chrysaetos) - La Cañada, Ávila, Spain" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Chrysaetos_La_Ca%C3%B1ada_20120114_1.jpg/500px-Chrysaetos_La_Ca%C3%B1ada_20120114_1.jpg" decoding="async" width="500" height="333" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Chrysaetos_La_Ca%C3%B1ada_20120114_1.jpg/750px-Chrysaetos_La_Ca%C3%B1ada_20120114_1.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Chrysaetos_La_Ca%C3%B1ada_20120114_1.jpg/1000px-Chrysaetos_La_Ca%C3%B1ada_20120114_1.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3722" data-file-height="2481" /></a><figcaption>Golden Eagle <i>(<a href="/wiki/Aquila_chrysaetos" class="mw-redirect" title="Aquila chrysaetos">Aquila chrysaetos</a>)</i> - La Cañada, Ávila, Spain</figcaption></figure> <p><br /> </p> <div style="text-align: center;"><div style="background-color: rgb(248, 248, 255); font-size: small; display: inline-block; border: thin solid #DADAFF; padding: 5px;"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1129693374">.mw-parser-output .hlist dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul{margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt,.mw-parser-output .hlist li{margin:0;display:inline}.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist.inline ul,.mw-parser-output .hlist dl dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist dl ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist dl ul,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist ol ul,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul dl,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul ol,.mw-parser-output .hlist ul ul{display:inline}.mw-parser-output .hlist .mw-empty-li{display:none}.mw-parser-output .hlist dt::after{content:": "}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li::after{content:" · ";font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li:last-child::after{content:none}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd dd:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dd dt:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dd li:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt dd:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt dt:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt li:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist li dd:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist li dt:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist li li:first-child::before{content:" (";font-weight:normal}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd dd:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dd dt:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dd li:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt dd:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt dt:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt li:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li dd:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li dt:last-child::after,.mw-parser-output .hlist li li:last-child::after{content:")";font-weight:normal}.mw-parser-output .hlist ol{counter-reset:listitem}.mw-parser-output .hlist ol>li{counter-increment:listitem}.mw-parser-output .hlist ol>li::before{content:" "counter(listitem)"\a0 "}.mw-parser-output .hlist dd ol>li:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist dt ol>li:first-child::before,.mw-parser-output .hlist li ol>li:first-child::before{content:" ("counter(listitem)"\a0 "}</style><div class="hlist"><ul><li><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Home</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enterprisey" title="User talk:Enterprisey">Talk</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Enterprisey" title="Special:Contributions/Enterprisey">Contribs</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/User:Enterprisey/Awards" title="User:Enterprisey/Awards">Awards</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/User:Enterprisey/Creations" title="User:Enterprisey/Creations">Creations</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/User:Enterprisey/CSD_log" title="User:Enterprisey/CSD log">CSDs</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/User:Enterprisey/PROD_log" title="User:Enterprisey/PROD log">PRODs</a></li><li><a href="/wiki/User:Enterprisey/Dashboard" title="User:Enterprisey/Dashboard">Dashboard</a></li></ul></div></div></div> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin: 1em auto;">Hi! 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class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Interesting_links">Interesting links</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enterprisey&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Interesting links"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Active_editors_with_the_longest-established_accounts" title="Wikipedia:Database reports/Active editors with the longest-established accounts">WP:Database reports/Active editors with the longest-established accounts</a></li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C2%85&redirect=no">Check out this title</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Jorge_Stolfi/Templates_that_I_sorely_miss" title="User:Jorge Stolfi/Templates that I sorely miss">User:Jorge Stolfi/Templates that I sorely miss</a> / <a href="/wiki/User:Antandrus/observations_on_Wikipedia_behavior" title="User:Antandrus/observations on Wikipedia behavior">User:Antandrus/observations on Wikipedia behavior</a> / <a href="/wiki/User:Guerillero/Quotes" title="User:Guerillero/Quotes">User:Guerillero/Quotes</a></li> <li><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&oldid=602453979#References">WP:IS example</a></span></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor%27s_index_to_Wikipedia" title="Wikipedia:Editor's index to Wikipedia">WP:Editor's index to Wikipedia</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiSpeak" title="Wikipedia:WikiSpeak">WP:WikiSpeak</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Femto_Bot_4" title="Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Femto Bot 4">RF's celebrated meta-BRFA</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Special:MostInterwikis" title="Special:MostInterwikis">Special:MostInterwikis</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Special:PermanentLink/908493298" title="Special:PermanentLink/908493298">Vintage permalink</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Editors_have_pride" title="Wikipedia:Editors have pride">WP:Editors have pride</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Thoughts_&_quotes"><span id="Thoughts_.26_quotes"></span>Thoughts & quotes</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enterprisey&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Thoughts & quotes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ol><li>"To the extent that we make it easy to get into trouble, we fail." (Originally about <a href="/wiki/API" title="API">API</a> design, but applies to user interfaces too. By Rico Mariani, quoted in <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://blog.codinghorror.com/falling-into-the-pit-of-success/">https://blog.codinghorror.com/falling-into-the-pit-of-success/</a>)</li> <li><span class="anchor" id="mbrubeck-new-features"></span>"[N]ot every argument or idea you disagree with has to be shouted down loudly. If a proposal (or a counter-argument to it) demonstrates value to enough people then it will gain support and can be refined into something that can reach consensus. If not, then it won't. Critiques of early-stage proposals in particular should be done with a goal of improving them, better understanding their motivation, or comparing them to alternatives. Comments that are closer to just 'voting no' on a proposal aren't really necessary.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>In disagreements, responding with new information is great, but try not to get in a mode where you are trying to convince specific people (or all people) that you are right and they are wrong. Focus on presenting your own ideas/needs/etc. as clearly as possible. Then people reading the thread (not just the person you are responding to) can judge competing arguments on their merits.<div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div>For anyone who wants to [design new features], remember that the bulk of the work is not in coming up with ideas, but in building consensus for them. To succeed, you'll need to spend a lot of time on understanding other people's viewpoints and tweaking your designs and communication based on what you learn. (This includes any concerns from the people who would need to implement and maintain your feature.) This 'listening' is the part of the process you'll need to focus most of your time and energy on. If you don't invest in it, then the rest of your effort is likely to be wasted." (mbrubeck, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/aliasing-other-things/12288/35">posting on the Rust Programming Language Internals Forum</a>, used here with permission)</li> <li>"Signatures and talk pages are the Number One barrier to entry for new editors. Everything else is a fart in the wind." By Jorm, May 2021. He elaborates in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Signatures/Archive_14#jorm-2021-05-27--19-27" title="Wikipedia talk:Signatures/Archive 14">his next comment</a>.</li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Links_about_moderating_communities">Links about moderating communities</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enterprisey&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Links about moderating communities"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://mastodon.social/@ifixcoinops/105778289798706182">The massive @ifixcoinops@mastodon.social thread</a> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.improbableisland.com/coc.php">The Improbable Island CoC</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.improbableisland.com/motd.php?id=467">The Improbable Island 'Missing Stair' MotD</a> (see <a href="/wiki/Missing_stair" title="Missing stair">Missing stair</a>)</li></ul></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://eev.ee/blog/2016/07/22/on-a-technicality/">"On a technicality" at eev.ee</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/hnfnti/where_is_the_rust_community_allowed_to_talk_about/fxf65nf/">burntsushi in r/rust about shutting down discussions</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20080415232902/http://www.savantmag.com/16/retail16.html">Cat Piss Man</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://twitter.com/yishan/status/1514938507407421440">Former Reddit CEO on moderation and censorship</a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1514938507407421440.html">Thread Reader App</a>) – note that I do not endorse the underlying worldview, but the observations on social dynamics are solid</li></ul> <p>And of course, the classics: </p> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.gwern.net/docs/technology/2005-shirky-agroupisitsownworstenemy.pdf">"A Group is Its Own Worst Enemy" by Clay Shirky</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/The_Tyranny_of_Structurelessness" title="The Tyranny of Structurelessness">The Tyranny of Structurelessness</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2"><h2 id="Other_subpages">Other subpages</h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enterprisey&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Other subpages"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/User:Enterprisey/Less_interesting_links" title="User:Enterprisey/Less interesting links">User:Enterprisey/Less interesting links</a>, for links that didn't make it to the section above.</li> <li><a href="/wiki/User:Enterprisey/Accounts" 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